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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful people?
- 0:02Today we are talking about how some narcissists, well, a lot of
- 0:06narcissists never grow up like the Peter Pan type narcissistic
- 0:11people. If you're new here, my name is
- 0:13Lee Hammock. I'm a clinically diagnosed
- 0:14narcissist and welcome to episode 988 of the Narcissist
- 0:18Code. So welcome back, welcome back,
- 0:38Welcome back, folks. Yes, yes, yes.
- 0:42So you get a lot of people that are dealing with narcissistic
- 0:46people out there that say this phrase, They'll say the phrase,
- 0:50well, I'm, I feel like I'm dealing with a toddler.
- 0:53I feel like I'm dealing with a toddler in a in an adult body.
- 0:57I feel like the narcissistic person that I'm dealing with
- 1:00never grows up. I feel like I'm dealing with an
- 1:02adolescent, a mean teenager or something like that.
- 1:04Yeah. Yo, it's true.
- 1:07Because Arrested Development does happen in a lot of
- 1:10narcissistic people, you know? And if you don't know what
- 1:12Arrested Development is, it means you get stuck at a certain
- 1:16emotional age, Like, not physical age, not mental age.
- 1:21Because you like narcissists can grow up and you know, be
- 1:23educated people, be smart people, be rocket scientists and
- 1:26super successful and super, super smart, you know, But
- 1:30emotionally they you, like I said in physical age, they can
- 1:33be like 4550, sixty, 7070 years old, right?
- 1:39But then you'll have, like I said, they'll have the emotional
- 1:43age of like an 819 year old. They'll be the emotional
- 1:47teenager. You know, they'll be a physical
- 1:49grandpa or grandma or grandparent and have the
- 1:54emotional age of an 8 year old. That happens all the time.
- 1:57Y'all because a lot of narcissists, they they
- 1:59experience some type of trauma in their youth or in their
- 2:02childhood that makes them stop growing emotionally.
- 2:05It doesn't make them stop growing physically.
- 2:06They still, like I said, they can still be educated, be super
- 2:09smart people, but they have the emotional age of a young person.
- 2:13Like they will always feel like they're they.
- 2:16You have to talk down to them emotionally.
- 2:18You can tell, you can, you can have an educated conversation
- 2:20with this person sometimes, but you have to talk down to them.
- 2:24We are trying to explain your emotions or how you feel or how
- 2:27they made you feel, you know, or what's going on in this current
- 2:30situation or how we're dealing with things right now.
- 2:32You have to talk down to them and whatnot.
- 2:34This is part of the dynamic or this is part of this space.
- 2:37This is part of how it goes right here.
- 2:41You know, this is the mentality. This is the mindset that a lot
- 2:44of narcissists and toxic people experience right here.
- 2:46This is how this is just how it happens.
- 2:48I promise you, this is just how it happens.
- 2:50So if you're dealing with a narcissist that'll toxic person
- 2:52like, well, Lee, how do I get them to grow up?
- 2:54Yeah, you cannot. Look, they have to go to therapy
- 2:57to work on themselves, to have those emotional birthdays,
- 3:00Although they might, they probably would never catch up to
- 3:02their physical age. They can grow up emotionally.
- 3:04If they go to some intense psychotherapy, they're committed
- 3:07to it. Or you'll just be dealing with
- 3:09this and you can tell you and y'all know exactly what I'm
- 3:11talking about. When you deal with the
- 3:12narcissist, like rage and silent treatment are childish
- 3:16responses. They don't seem like childish
- 3:18responses because they're coming from an adult, you know, but
- 3:21they're childish responses. Narcissistic rage is pretty much
- 3:23the adult version of a temper tantrum.
- 3:26You know when you get a 7 or 8 year old, that doesn't get their
- 3:28way. They get mad, they get super
- 3:31angry, they might start throwing stuff and just you know, that's
- 3:34what the narcissistic grade is. Except you.
- 3:35You're older, you're stronger, you can, you can damage more
- 3:39things, you can damage the person that is making you angry
- 3:41or whatever. The person that you're blaming
- 3:43for how you're feeling is really the adult narcissistic grade,
- 3:47just literally the adult, you know, adult version of a temper
- 3:51tantrum. They'll get mad and start
- 3:52swinging their arms. I'm going crazy.
- 3:54You know? As an adult, as a kid, they do
- 3:56it. You, you just brush it off as a
- 3:58kid, but as an adult you can't brush it off because that person
- 4:01can harm you. They're swinging their arms and
- 4:03punching stuff and trying to hit you and chasing you.
- 4:05You know the silent treatment is a childish response.
- 4:08Think about it's an emotionally childish response.
- 4:10Instead of trying to, instead of trying to work out the actual
- 4:13issues or deal with things that are actually going on or
- 4:16processing things that are actually going on, they shut
- 4:19down and just refuse to speak to you.
- 4:20They ignore the issue. This child is just basically
- 4:24like basically like a little 7-8 year old going in the going in
- 4:27the corner, putting their hands in their ears and ignoring you.
- 4:30You know, maybe a little bit younger, 5-6 years old do this,
- 4:33you know, they just ignore you, you know Quincy's no star trees.
- 4:39Remember from number number Quincy no star trees.
- 4:41You can't double stamp, double stamp.
- 4:42You can't double stamp, double stamp.
- 4:44You can't double stamp, double stamp number number.
- 4:47Y'all 1994. Y'all that movie came out in
- 4:491994. What, 3030?
- 4:53Whoa, 30 years. Never came out 30 years ago.
- 4:56What the? What the hell?
- 4:59That is wild to me. But yeah, you can't get them to
- 5:03grow up. Y'all.
- 5:04If you are trying to plan on staying in a relationship with a
- 5:07narcissist or trying to have to communicate with one, you have
- 5:09to dumb down your emotional language.
- 5:11I don't know, it sounds silly, but you're like, you have to act
- 5:15like you're talking to a you know, see, see this narcissistic
- 5:18person, right? Look at them.
- 5:21But imagine them as an 8 year old.
- 5:22They're still 35, but imagine them as an 8 year old.
- 5:25Look, you're hurt like you screaming.
- 5:27Screaming hurts. Johnny, you know.
- 5:30Yes, Papa. Johnny.
- 5:32Johnny. Yes, Papa.
- 5:34Eating sugar. You see what I'm saying?
- 5:36That's the that's the that's the process that a lot of
- 5:41narcissistic people go through right there.
- 5:43You know, it really, really is. So that's why I try to tell
- 5:46people if you're dealing with a narcissist, toxic person or
- 5:48whoever, you have to dumb down the way you speak to them
- 5:50because they'll never grow up. They still have childish hobbies
- 5:54a lot of times like, and this is true for a lot of narcissist as
- 5:57well, their inner child is trying to live through their
- 6:01adult body, their neglected. A narcissist neglected inner
- 6:06child is trying to live through their adult body.
- 6:10So that's why you see sometimes they're doing things like kids
- 6:13do. You see what I'm saying?
- 6:15That's why you get something. This is me being realistic as
- 6:17well. You get some narcissist, right?
- 6:19Some older narcissistic people, they go for younger people
- 6:22because they have, they're the same emotional age.
- 6:23They feel like this person is closer to the emotional age than
- 6:26I am. You get a 45 year old narcissist
- 6:29going for an 18 year old. Oh, we, I know we have 27 years
- 6:33difference in age, but we think the same.
- 6:35Why? Because they're emotionally
- 6:37stunted. You see what I'm saying?
- 6:39This is how they feel. This person is emotionally on
- 6:41the same level as me. We think the same.
- 6:43We feel the same emotionally. We don't have anything else in
- 6:46common. I got a mortgage and a four O
- 6:471K. They just look, they just
- 6:49they're applying for college. You see what I'm saying?
- 6:52There's a space that a lot of narcissistic people fall into
- 6:54right there. That's why I'm just saying like
- 6:56they have to there. If you think about it, y'all
- 6:58from a different perspective, a narcissist inner, a narcissist
- 7:00neglected inner child is really living through their adult body.
- 7:04That's what happens with me in my space.
- 7:06You know, when you see narcissist respond in a childish
- 7:10way, that's their inner child. They maybe never got to do the
- 7:15things that they wanted to do, but now they can.
- 7:18Right now there's some control. So now they're inner.
- 7:20Like, back in the day, the inner child used to get stifled and
- 7:24whatnot, right? The inner child used to get
- 7:26stifled out, used to get, you know, couldn't, couldn't express
- 7:29themselves in a healthy way, right?
- 7:31But now they may not in a healthy way.
- 7:33They couldn't express themselves in any way, but now they can.
- 7:36Now they have the ability to express themselves and be free
- 7:39and be open and whatnot. So now they have that ability to
- 7:42do that. That happens quite a bit in
- 7:44these spaces. So where they used to, could not
- 7:48do anything, now they can. It's like, oh, I used to
- 7:51couldn't do this, but now I can. Now I'm being able to do this
- 7:55right here. Now I'm being able to move
- 7:57forward. Now I'm being able to live my
- 7:58life the way I want to live my life.
- 8:00Yeah, because I couldn't do this as a child.
- 8:02But guess what? I'm free now.
- 8:04I can absolutely do this as an adult.
- 8:07I'm super free right now. So this happens quite a bit to
- 8:10people. Y'all.
- 8:10So if you're dealing with a narcissistic person, toxic
- 8:12person, this happens quite a bit, you know?
- 8:16And then I said they have to repair themselves, they have to
- 8:19go to, they have to go to therapy.
- 8:21They can't do it on their own. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm
- 8:24going to prey on it and let God guide me.
- 8:26Y'all, unless God guides them to therapy, this is who you're
- 8:30going to be dealing with. And again, I'm not telling y'all
- 8:33to leave your relationship. I'm just providing the
- 8:35information necessary for you to, like, make it a conscious
- 8:37decision. Like, ask yourself right here if
- 8:41nothing. And this is how you can tell
- 8:42that you can survive in a in a relationship right here.
- 8:45This is one of the this is one of the keys to tell that you can
- 8:47survive, right? If nothing were to change in
- 8:51your relationship right now. Nothing.
- 8:53Absolutely nothing. The behaviors didn't change.
- 8:55The way they talk to you didn't change.
- 8:57The way they treat you didn't change.
- 8:58If nothing changes in this relationship five years from
- 9:02now, would you still be happy? Or would you feel like If you
- 9:05feel like you're already losing yourself through the behaviors
- 9:08and the way you're being treated right now, you're not going to
- 9:10be in a better place five years from now?
- 9:12How would you? You see, I know you can work on
- 9:15yourself and be maybe be in a better place financially and
- 9:18mentally because you're going to therapy, but you're still
- 9:20becoming home to this. You'll still be dealing with
- 9:22this Again, I'm not telling you how to leave.
- 9:23I'm just telling you. Ask yourself these questions
- 9:26right here. If nothing changes, would I
- 9:29still be happy with my life right now?
- 9:33If nothing worth a change. Ask yourself that question right
- 9:37there. That's a that's a serious
- 9:40question. You got to ask yourself, you
- 9:43know, think about it. Ask yourself this question right
- 9:45here. Because that's the mindset,
- 9:46that's the dynamic, that's the space that a lot of people fall
- 9:48into. So if nothing were to change
- 9:50right now, would you be happy if they didn't?
- 9:52If they never actually grew up, which they probably won't if
- 9:55they never grew up, would you be OK with who they are?
- 9:59Would you be OK with who they are right now?
- 10:01Would you be OK with living your life the way that you live your
- 10:03life right now? Would everything be fine?
- 10:05That's what I have to ask people.
- 10:06Would everything be fine if you had to live your life the way
- 10:09you live in your life right now? Because that narcissistic person
- 10:13will probably never grow up. Especially if they're not
- 10:15putting in any type of work to grow up.
- 10:17Especially if this is who they if they have grown into a if
- 10:20they fall into some type of comfort zone, then yeah, this is
- 10:22who you'll be dealing with for the rest of your days.
- 10:25If you look, if you're OK with that.
- 10:26Y'all look, this is your life. You know, love wins and whatnot.
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- 10:55Peace. Thank you so much for making it
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