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Monday Mini: The Moms Are Not Alright · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Danny and smitha and welcome stuff. I've
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Speaker 1: never told you, Protective, I heard you, And today we
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Speaker 1: have an episode that I have been hinting at in
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Speaker 1: recent episodes. This one's kind of a jumble of my thoughts,
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Speaker 1: but there has been some research done and I do
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Speaker 1: have some of that. That being said, there are going
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Speaker 1: to be some spoilers into some very recent media, and
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Speaker 1: I would say particularly all her.
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Speaker 2: Faults, which by the way, da Coda Fanning playing a
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Speaker 2: mom really threw me off.
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Speaker 3: I want that to be noted at the very top.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Yeah. It has been interesting because she
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Speaker 1: was so young when she started as an actor.
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Speaker 2: Yes, like she grew up on the screen and I
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Speaker 2: feel like, as a person who was in my twenties
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Speaker 2: seeing her as a child, this is not okay, I digress.
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Speaker 1: Yes it was. It was kind of bizarre. Nothing we
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Speaker 1: talk about. None of them are sponsors currently. This is
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Speaker 1: just something that's been on my mind, and it feels
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Speaker 1: like it's been on a lot of people's minds, which
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Speaker 1: is sort of the point I'm going to make. But uh,
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Speaker 1: it is kind of related to the single mother trope
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Speaker 1: that we see in Horror that Samantha, you talked about
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Speaker 1: in our religious horror episodes, movies like Babaduck Conjuring two.
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Speaker 1: We didn't you know, I didn't even include the Exorcist
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Speaker 1: in that, but the Extioucist.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, because like she where was the father?
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Speaker 3: He wasn't. They weren't divorced, right.
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Speaker 1: He was like overseas, but he wouldn't even talk to
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Speaker 1: them on the phone.
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Speaker 3: Like yeah, absent father is a big yes.
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Speaker 1: Yes, So all of that is related. And this is
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Speaker 1: something I've been thinking about for a while because right now,
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Speaker 1: and by right now, I mean in the past like
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Speaker 1: two or three years, we are having some kind of
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Speaker 1: moment in entertainment around usually middle aged white mothers, usually
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Speaker 1: pretty well off middle aged white mothers, having had enough,
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Speaker 1: like done with their husbands. They are done. So right now,
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Speaker 1: two of the movies that are inspiring big conversations around
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Speaker 1: this are If I Had Legs, I'DE Kick You and
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Speaker 1: Die My Love, which is also about postpardon depression. And
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Speaker 1: one of the biggest shows is All Her Fault. And
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Speaker 1: in recent times we've also had Pretty Little Liars and
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Speaker 1: Night Bitch. And it's pretty striking how much of these
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Speaker 1: movies are pointing to the fact that moms which is
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Speaker 1: not okay, and their husbands suck and maybe we should
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Speaker 1: murder them. Something is going on. I'm telling you so
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Speaker 1: I have I know what happens in all of these
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Speaker 1: movies and shows. I haven't seen if I had leg
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Speaker 1: Sidekick You or Die My Love, but I know what happens.
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Speaker 1: I kind of knew what happened in Die My Love
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Speaker 1: before I even knew they were making a movie about it.
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Speaker 1: But it is very When I was watching All Her Faults,
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Speaker 1: which I did enjoy, I just I just was struck
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Speaker 1: by this is this is a something is going on.
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Speaker 1: This is a pattern I'm seeing, and yeah, the moms
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Speaker 1: are not okay, and the I do want to say also,
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Speaker 1: a lot of these movies are sometimes in good faith
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Speaker 1: and bad faith movies and shows they're very divisive about.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like men being no, and other times it's
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Speaker 1: just like that wasn't for me. But I think they are.
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Speaker 1: They're resonating with a lot of people, and they're causing
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Speaker 1: a lot of conversation. And I'm not a mother, and
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Speaker 1: it's amazing how often I connect them. Yeah. See, I've
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Speaker 1: been treated like that in a relationship. I've been treated
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Speaker 1: this way in a relationship with a man, and it
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Speaker 1: just feels like there's some kind of moment that's happening.
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Speaker 1: And oddly enough, I tried to look into it right
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Speaker 1: before this, and maybe I just wasn't using the right
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Speaker 1: search terms, but it doesn't feel like there's been much
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Speaker 1: written about it. But I'm telling you there's something happening.
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Speaker 1: And I did find a couple of very recent studies.
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Speaker 1: They were done during the pandemic, and it was saying, yeah,
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Speaker 1: moms are not okay, like not doing well. Their mental
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Speaker 1: health is going down, their physical health is going down
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Speaker 1: in a noticeable, measurable way. And most all of the
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Speaker 1: things that I'm talking about here are set like in
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Speaker 1: our current times. So one of the big things that
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Speaker 1: comes up in these it's it's usually it goes like this.
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Speaker 1: In these things. A woman is, you know, happily married,
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Speaker 1: they have a kid, and then suddenly it's very much
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Speaker 1: on her to stay home and take care of the kid,
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Speaker 1: or if she doesn't stay home, it's still she takes
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Speaker 1: care of the kid, whether that's finding a babysitter or
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Speaker 1: nanny or whatever it is. She's the one in charge
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Speaker 1: of the kid, and that's when the fractures and their
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Speaker 1: relationship start to show up. And then I really appreciate
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Speaker 1: how in a lot of these it's made clear they
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously they love their kids, but it's when
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Speaker 1: you're just at home with a kid who can't really
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Speaker 1: speak to you or can't really it's very isolating and
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Speaker 1: almost I think in every example, they have a career,
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Speaker 1: so they're all working moms also, and so this is
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Speaker 1: you know, the husband kind of gets to keep his
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Speaker 1: job and not have the childcare impact it, but the
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Speaker 1: mom either has to leave her job or the childcare
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Speaker 1: impacts her job, and at a certain point, the women
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Speaker 1: reach a breaking point and it can manifest in a
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Speaker 1: couple of ways, some of them being murdered, some of
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Speaker 1: them being divorce. But yeah, well you know, it's entertaining.
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Speaker 1: It's very a lot of this is very even me.
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Speaker 1: I'll be like, yes, that's right, I agree, But it
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Speaker 1: does still fill over the top sometimes like kind of
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Speaker 1: a soap opera kind of vibe, you know. So it's
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Speaker 1: not that I would necessarily cheer on, but it's something
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Speaker 1: about like the kind of dramatic yeah, yes, exactly, exactly,
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Speaker 1: And so it comes to an end that way. And
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Speaker 1: then usually there's a group of friends. Oh yeah, and
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Speaker 1: most of these except the two movies, it's a group
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Speaker 1: of friends women who come together and are you know,
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Speaker 1: airing their their complaints about how their husband never does
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Speaker 1: anything and they're so tired and they just want support
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Speaker 1: and all of this, and they bond over that, and
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Speaker 1: so it's a very the women are providing support to
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Speaker 1: each other, but the husband is not. The husband is
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Speaker 1: notably not only not providing support, gaslighting them, weaponized and
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Speaker 1: competence all the time. I think a lot of them
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Speaker 1: do what we were talking about recently now, where they
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Speaker 1: use therapy terms as like a I need my mean
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Speaker 1: time and they're like, you think I don't need buy me.
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Speaker 1: But having this friend group that really understands that of
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Speaker 1: women and then coming to the realization that they're better
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Speaker 1: off single and having this friend group of women. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot worse in some of these of a you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of abuse emotional or physical. But most of it
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Speaker 1: is that I feel like we're finally kind of maybe
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Speaker 1: not finally, but we're really having a moment where we're
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Speaker 1: discussing the difference of yeah, the mom is working so
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Speaker 1: hard and taking care of this kid and doing all
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Speaker 1: of this stuff, and you are making her feel bad
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Speaker 1: about how she's messed up here, are not doing a
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Speaker 1: good enough job here, but you're not helping her at all,
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Speaker 1: and you get to enjoy the fun part of like
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Speaker 1: being the fun dad or being the dad that shows
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Speaker 1: up occasionally and doesn't do anything else, doesn't do any
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Speaker 1: of the hard stuff, doesn't and then you tell her
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Speaker 1: but you're such a good mom. Though, no, no, and
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. People have had enough. So I did
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Speaker 1: want to talk about This is where there's some spoilers
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Speaker 1: for not I'm trying to avoid the main spoiler for
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Speaker 1: all her fault, but I do think it had so
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Speaker 1: many that I was just like, this is what I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about, and they just they really hit it toll
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Speaker 1: of like, oh I do. I really enjoyed the show,
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Speaker 1: and it was in part because it was sadly so
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Speaker 1: refreshing that all of the women there was one kind
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Speaker 1: of woman who was a villain, the PTA mom, the
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Speaker 1: PTA mom who had the stay at home dad and
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Speaker 1: was always kind of pressuring all the other women into
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Speaker 1: doing X, y Z and to feeling bad about whatever
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Speaker 1: job they were doing as a mom. She was the
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Speaker 1: one that they would often call if you needed to
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Speaker 1: back up babysitter because their husbands wouldn't do it. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: she was definitely like villainous, but I feel like every
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Speaker 1: other woman, they were so supportive of each other because
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Speaker 1: they all understood, yeah, we're not getting any support really,
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Speaker 1: and they do have there are there. Pretty much everybody
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Speaker 1: in here except one very notable exception, is very well off.
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Speaker 1: So they do have nanny's which is something most people
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Speaker 1: can't afford to have. But even so, outside of that,
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Speaker 1: because they're working all day, it's still on them to
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Speaker 1: take care of the kid outside of those times. So
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Speaker 1: Dakota Fannings's character, she befriends Sarah Snoke's character, and Sarah
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Speaker 1: Snooke is the main character over kind of being annoyed
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Speaker 1: and tired of being coupled amazing and their husband's not
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Speaker 1: helping and all this stuff. And then Sarah Snooke's character
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Speaker 1: goes missing, her child goes missing, and Dakota fannings character
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Speaker 1: is the first suspect, but they kind of immediately are like,
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Speaker 1: I know, it wasn't you. And I really liked that
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Speaker 1: they stuck together and Dakota Fannings character has a scene
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Speaker 1: that I just I was like, I love this feels
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Speaker 1: so good where she's like, I lost my son, I
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Speaker 1: can't do anything. I need help, and Dakota Fannings character
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Speaker 1: was like, how I'll help you. What is it? I'll
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Speaker 1: do it? Is it? And she helps her set up
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Speaker 1: a website and her husband wouldn't do it, like but
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Speaker 1: you know, having this friend who would, and so I
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Speaker 1: really enjoyed their relationship. And you just see all of
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Speaker 1: these dudes who are not good because you know the
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Speaker 1: name is about the women keep getting blamed for what
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Speaker 1: happened to this child and it guess what. It turns
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Speaker 1: out it was a man.
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Speaker 3: Behind the whole which violence.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's the whole thing, and that guy
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Speaker 1: thinks he was perfectly in the right, but it's just
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Speaker 1: so much gas lighting. At one point, uh, Dakota Fannings
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Speaker 1: character learns that her husband has been lying to her
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Speaker 1: about an after school show program that he teaches because
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Speaker 1: he's a teacher and he just like takes that time
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Speaker 1: to sit in his car and be on his phone
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Speaker 1: and stuff. And she confronts him and it's like, you
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Speaker 1: think I wouldn't want this time you've been lying to me.
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Speaker 2: I think I saw that clip in TikTok because it
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Speaker 2: was a pretty good line about like, my outing is
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Speaker 2: me going to pick up groceries and these things, and
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Speaker 2: your outing is to do for you. My outing is
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Speaker 2: to take care of y'all. This is not the same,
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Speaker 2: is that that scene?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: It was like I've never seen this show, y'all, so
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Speaker 2: I'm very coming in like huh. But like I saw that,
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh damn okay Dakota being a.
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Speaker 1: Model, yeah, because she'd been lied to and she had
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Speaker 1: to interact with the PTA because of it. But it
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Speaker 1: was just really frustrating because he was so she was
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Speaker 1: taking care of him too. He keeps texting her and
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Speaker 1: he'll be like, I don't know where to find the blanket.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where to find the bottle, and she says,
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Speaker 1: you know, just ask the kid. The kid knows, but
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Speaker 1: he's doing it, according to her, purposefully to make it
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Speaker 1: so difficult. She won't ask him to spend time with
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Speaker 1: their kid, and she says, I would rather. I don't
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Speaker 1: want our kid, who was a boy to grow up
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Speaker 1: thinking this is what love is or what support is
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Speaker 1: so I would rather get divorced than be with you.
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Speaker 3: Good on her, oh man, that is the correct answer.
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Speaker 1: Yes, hard to talk about the other relationship that's boiling
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Speaker 1: it majorly, but essentially like Sarah Snox's relationship with her husband.
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Speaker 1: By that way, that guy Jake Lacy, he just has
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Speaker 1: a punchable face. They even comment on it.
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Speaker 3: It it's the same thing, dude.
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Speaker 2: I think I rememb because again I think I saw
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Speaker 2: a little clip of it on TikTok.
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Speaker 3: This is how I get my previews.
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Speaker 2: He is the most generic looking dude because he was
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Speaker 2: in a movie with Jenny Slat and I remember when
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Speaker 2: I first saw him, like he his whole character was
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Speaker 2: being kind of like what you would expect is a uptight,
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Speaker 2: mid level corporate job that kind of doesn't climb like that.
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Speaker 3: Kind of handsome. But you're kind of staring like, but
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Speaker 3: is he or is he just plane?
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Speaker 1: I think he's in the office. He I think he
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Speaker 1: was Pete. He was like they just random young.
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Speaker 2: People at the very end that had the random relationship
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Speaker 2: with a Okay, okay, Aaron Hemp.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's him. I can't remember.
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Speaker 2: I think he might be right again, though he might
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Speaker 2: be white dude, like kind of blends in with that
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Speaker 2: other generic white dude.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, no, no, he's They comment on it a
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Speaker 1: couple of times. But he is like, he is a
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Speaker 1: very he's a very gaslighting character. He's a very controlling character.
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Speaker 1: He's very quick to blame his wife for everything while
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Speaker 1: also not knowing kind of anything at all. And I
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Speaker 1: just he has a lot of skeletons in his closet
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Speaker 1: that come out that you're just you can see who
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Speaker 1: he is and it's gross. And he thinks he's on
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Speaker 1: the on the like he's the good one. He's the
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Speaker 1: one who's been taking care of everybody, protecting everybody, and
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Speaker 1: he's very judgmental about how you should what is the
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Speaker 1: good way to be? Uh. He has a line at
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Speaker 1: some point where he says, well, it's clear she didn't
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Speaker 1: have a man in her life, so she shouldn't have
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Speaker 1: been raising a child, or like he's a he's that
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Speaker 1: kind of guy, and it all comes out through this
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Speaker 1: traumatic event of raising raising a kid. I think there's
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Speaker 1: only one good dude character in the whole thing, because
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Speaker 1: even like the father of one of the fathers of
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Speaker 1: one of the characters is presented as somebody who might be,
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Speaker 1: you know, not perfect, but someone who cares about about
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Speaker 1: her No, no, it's really sad. And there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of other themes around apologizing for what men did, like
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Speaker 1: women feeling like they have to apologize for what men did.
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Speaker 1: The pta mom and her husband at one point say well,
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Speaker 1: you only have one child, so you have plenty of
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Speaker 1: time to have volunteered. Yep. And then a lot of
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Speaker 1: other comments and I've thought about this, We've talked about
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Speaker 1: it in several episodes because I've heard this before, but
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Speaker 1: a lot of other comments around towards women, why didn't
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Speaker 1: you sense anything? Why didn't you sense anything was wrong?
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Speaker 1: Because at one point the nanny is suspected, so they're like,
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Speaker 1: why didn't you You should have known, and the man
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Speaker 1: can't even name who it is, but she's getting grilled
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Speaker 1: on you should have sensed it. And another thing is
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Speaker 1: the only reason the male detectives caught who did it
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Speaker 1: is that one of them is actually an engaged parent.
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Speaker 1: That's the only reason otherwise yep, yep. This is kind
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Speaker 1: of a personal note because there's a scene where the
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Speaker 1: husband is not happy with his wife's promotion our job success.
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Speaker 1: And I remember once I was telling my ex that
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Speaker 1: I'd gotten a promotion and he immediately said, well, I
19:47
Speaker 1: think I'm about to get a promotion. Like he didn't
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Speaker 1: even give me a space to say, oh, congrats or
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Speaker 1: comparing right immediately, and it just struck me as such
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Speaker 1: a like okay, well congrats to you. Yeah. And then
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Speaker 1: there's one line I believe it's in that Dakota Fannings
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Speaker 1: scene where they break up, but he says I should
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Speaker 1: still be allowed to be me. It's like, oh, you
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Speaker 1: think I shouldn't be allowed to be me? Right? There's
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Speaker 1: also there is a great line that I can't say
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Speaker 1: with us puiling it completely, but it is about It's
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Speaker 1: about how these a lot of these women were caring
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Speaker 1: for their husbands too, as if they were kids. They
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Speaker 1: were like they were taking care of their family, of
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Speaker 1: their lunches, of any any appointments that they might have,
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Speaker 1: or anything they might need. And we talked about that
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Speaker 1: in our emotional labor episode or that is something that
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Speaker 1: comes up a lot. And my mom definitely she was
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Speaker 1: doing all that for my dad. She was the one
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Speaker 1: contacting his family and sending presents to his family. This
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Speaker 1: was another job she had to take on, And so
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Speaker 1: I think, and you know, maybe my mom is a
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Speaker 1: good parallel because I've said before she after my dad died,
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Speaker 1: She's told me, like I she'll ask me these questions
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Speaker 1: that I'm sometimes so sad. She's just asking them now
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Speaker 1: about being not having a man and having this extra
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Speaker 1: time and all all of these things. And I feel
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Speaker 1: like there's some moment that's happening where moms are they
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Speaker 1: don't want to do this anymore.
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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, honestly, I wonder of like again, like
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Speaker 2: as influence, that's what he can be. But going back
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Speaker 2: on social media and seeing how other people live, and
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Speaker 2: again we know we have to come back with the
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Speaker 2: reality that a lot of the is you know, glamorized
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Speaker 2: or glossed over, whether it's to get that appeal to
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Speaker 2: look like that you have the perfect life, or you know,
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Speaker 2: finally understanding from everyone else, like the amount of comments
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Speaker 2: that I see on incompetent moments of like there was
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Speaker 2: a big one. I don't know Annie, if you saw
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Speaker 2: dude apparently went duck hunting and when he comes back,
22:30
Speaker 2: he sees everything's clean, but also everything's empty and gets
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Speaker 2: a note with the ring saying because he was supposed
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Speaker 2: to Apparently he was like, I was going for a
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Speaker 2: couple of days, and that's how he wrote it. And
22:40
Speaker 2: then you find out that he was supposed to be
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Speaker 2: home two days before, but he extended the trip with
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Speaker 2: her taking care of the kids and her being there
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Speaker 2: without him whatever, and he does as often. As she
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Speaker 2: finally was done, she was like, you know what, I've
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Speaker 2: taken care of the house. I've taken care of this.
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Speaker 2: Me and the kids are gone. We're done. And the
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Speaker 2: amount of people were like, yeah, yeah, that's what happened,
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Speaker 2: like and every single person being like, we know what
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Speaker 2: you did. Dude, don't act like she just left you.
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Speaker 2: And men came to the being like it's not that
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Speaker 2: hard to communicate, it's not that hard to understand that
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Speaker 2: maybe she needs an outing too, like again, this may
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Speaker 2: be on the again the very the lowest standard of
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Speaker 2: standards than just understanding it, and some men coming back
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Speaker 2: this happened to me and I didn't know it was
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Speaker 2: too late, like so many of those comments and coming
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Speaker 2: through social media and not really realizing, oh, women have
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Speaker 2: actually left and women coming back like this was hard,
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Speaker 2: but this is better, like type of conversations and being
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Speaker 2: kind of be like, oh, okay, So I wonder if
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Speaker 2: finally like being able to recognize and naming things like
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Speaker 2: weaponizing competence and like seeing that level being like, oh,
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Speaker 2: this is not normal because all we had lean on
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Speaker 2: was generational trauma. So like four years we saw what
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Speaker 2: the parents went through and that they were in a
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Speaker 2: really bad relationship.
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Speaker 3: But you were taught you just stick it out, it's
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Speaker 3: not to you part.
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you see these other
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Speaker 2: examples of like now we broke that, we broke that cycle.
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Speaker 1: Like yeah, And I think that it's interesting too that
24:15
Speaker 1: in like the boomer days of getting married, women didn't
24:19
Speaker 1: have you know, you couldn't get a credit card and
24:23
Speaker 1: you might not be able to leave the house easily,
24:27
Speaker 1: and you didn't you were isolated in a lot of cases.
24:32
Speaker 1: And so that's been one of my things that I've
24:35
Speaker 1: really picked up on on these is that there are
24:37
Speaker 1: there's a group of women that usually they come together
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Speaker 1: with and they all start complaining, and in at least
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Speaker 1: several of these cases of the examples I pointed out
24:52
Speaker 1: in the ender, like I would rather have this group
24:53
Speaker 1: of friends, they're more supportive if I am taking care
24:57
Speaker 1: of not only the kid while I have a job,
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Speaker 1: but also I'm taking care of you and the house,
25:06
Speaker 1: then that is more work actually in being single. But
25:10
Speaker 1: we had been told for so long you've got to
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Speaker 1: have this nuclear family or else what else, what are
25:14
Speaker 1: you gonna do? But now it's like, actually, it would.
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Speaker 2: Be easier to be one less person and one less
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Speaker 2: person to be screamed at by and I could do
25:21
Speaker 2: Anything's my standard.
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Speaker 3: There's and again I think we're gonna.
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Speaker 2: Have We definitely will talk about this because there's so
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Speaker 2: many rollbacks when we see with women's rights. A lot
25:31
Speaker 2: of people in those same comments that I was talking about,
25:33
Speaker 2: will say, this is why the Republicans and the Conservatives
25:37
Speaker 2: and the Christian nationalists want to roll back no fault divorce.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they can keep women trapped for longer.
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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely absolutely. And I did want to go back
25:52
Speaker 1: to another point you made in that scene where Dakota
25:55
Speaker 1: Fanning breaks up with her husband. He basically is like, well,
25:59
Speaker 1: you should have said something, and she said I did,
26:03
Speaker 1: and I showed it to you all of the time.
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Speaker 1: You just didn't want to see it. Because I think
26:08
Speaker 1: a lot of people do say that of like, well,
26:10
Speaker 1: you never said something, there were no signs, but there were, right.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the realization when people start saying that
26:19
Speaker 2: more people have come back with like no, I bet
26:21
Speaker 2: you she'd already said it, and she just when she
26:24
Speaker 2: finally gave up, you thought she's quit. You thought that's
26:27
Speaker 2: oh good, the nagging stops. She has learned that I'm
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Speaker 2: not gonna change. But what really happened was she no
26:33
Speaker 2: longer cared and was finding an exit.
26:36
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because you weren't listening to her exactly. And
26:39
Speaker 1: so I I've been enjoying these movies, I what movies
26:46
Speaker 1: and shows, and I was reading a couple of articles
26:49
Speaker 1: that were really interesting about them before I came in,
26:51
Speaker 1: but they were kind of a different topic. I more
26:53
Speaker 1: wanted to focus on what is this right that's happening
26:58
Speaker 1: right now? And I think it relates to something we
27:03
Speaker 1: talked about in your recent happy hours that where I
27:05
Speaker 1: just people are women, especially are done with being asked
27:14
Speaker 1: to do all of this and getting no reward and
27:17
Speaker 1: often having to lose something because of it, and being
27:20
Speaker 1: blamed for everything that could go wrong. So something's happening.
27:28
Speaker 1: Some of you have written in about specifically night about
27:33
Speaker 1: your kind of torn thoughts on how it's presented. And
27:37
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these have that, like I
27:38
Speaker 1: said at the top, like they're kind of divisive in
27:41
Speaker 1: some ways, but I do think that they have resonated
27:47
Speaker 1: with a lot of people, whether you liked it or not,
27:49
Speaker 1: but maybe there was a message in and they were like,
27:51
Speaker 1: oh yeah that but just yeah. I know some of
27:54
Speaker 1: you have written in about some of these, so I've
27:57
Speaker 1: read those. I am really behind on listener responding. I've read,
28:02
Speaker 1: but the response is behind, But I would love to
28:07
Speaker 1: hear from all of you. I'm kind of hoping to
28:10
Speaker 1: come back and uh do a bigger episode on this.
28:16
Speaker 1: I'm hoping I can find some more research than I did,
28:21
Speaker 1: than I could find, but there's, in my opinion, clearly
28:27
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