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- 0:00Gathered together from the cosmic reaches of the universe, here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners, are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith.
- 0:10Stuff happens, and at the same time, nothing actually happens.
- 0:15Terry.
- 0:16I look over to my side. Some of the other guys already eaten his full blooming onion. I've barely even scratched the surface.
- 0:21Derek.
- 0:22Alright, you primitive fucks, here's a DVD I'm going to show you.
- 0:26And the Power Twins, Zap and Jordan, with their magical lemur snort, dedicated Welcome back to Fumbling Their Way Through Movies, one forgotten gem at a time.
- 0:34This week we watch the 1971 outback thriller, Wake in Fright.
- 0:39This is Fumbling Through Film.
- 0:42I'm a doctor of medicine and a tramp by temperament. I'm also an alcoholic. My disease prevented me from practicing in Sydney, but out here it's scarcely noticeable. Certainly doesn't stop people from coming to see me. I charge no fees because I'm not interested in money. Anyway, I'm unreliable. But I'm accepted socially because I'm an educated man and I've got character. I get my food from my friends, my requirements in beer, which with some measure of self-control is the only alcohol I allow myself.
- 1:24And you get along without money altogether?
- 1:29It's possible to live forever in the Java without money. As you probably noticed, some of the natives are very, uh, hospitable.
- 1:39Hello and welcome to another one-of-a-kind, genre-defining, brand new episode of Fumbling Through Film, the only show that I guarantee dares to bring together 3 dudes to talk about movies. These aren't just any movies. These are the ones we've either missed, overlooked, or feel are simply worth revisiting.
- 2:06Sounds like any
- 2:08AKA N hyphen E movie.
- 2:14If only there were some sort of you know
- 2:16if there were some rules parameters, but there aren't right as far as I know there aren't.
- 2:21Oh, but at least at this point in the show there's not.
- 2:25But what I do know is my name is Derek and I'm a fumbler. Those other people you're hearing, one is joining us in the Fumbledome. He's a prime minister of fumbling in film. He's Keith.
- 2:35Hey, hey, what's up, KG? Fumbler extraordinaire. Uh, damn happy to be here.
- 2:40Damn happy to be here. The other one is also in the Fumbledome. I know I kind of set that up like Keith was here and Terry was somewhere else, but he's not. He's here. He's the Dr. Dre of Kansas. He's Terry.
- 2:52I was a little worried. I was like, I'm here too. It's kind of weird. Can people see me? This is not good.
- 2:57He's an apparition.
- 2:58I said, I said it was a ghost costume. It was a ghost costume, not a real ghost.
- 3:02I thought I'd really become the Invisible Man. My formula had finally paid off.
- 3:06Oh man, the megalomaniac is going to attack now.
- 3:09That's right. Yeah, finally I can do what I was born to do as an invisible person— podcast.
- 3:14Podcast from different rooms in the house. No one will ever know I'm there.
- 3:20So spooky. This voice is coming from a disembodied Head. Oh,
- 3:26oh, you just— your head's floating around. Well, I guess if you wrap your head.
- 3:29I forgot to put the formula on my head, so it's just my body.
- 3:32Damn it. Oh, it's like a topical formula. You
- 3:35don't drink it, you just rub it in on your skin.
- 3:37Yeah. Oh,
- 3:38you know, I just missed some spots on my face.
- 3:41So that's like, you know, you ever see those people where they're like, oh, could you put sunscreen on my back? And people like write dirty words on their back and stuff like that.
- 3:49Yeah, the ultimate betrayal.
- 3:50You, you would be— it'd be so easy to miss a spot with— it was a topical invisible formula.
- 3:57Yeah. And if you're really relying on being invisible, you just put like, you leave some word space out.
- 4:02So like almost like a, like a sandwich board is what it kind of looks like just walking around with. Yeah. Yeah.
- 4:10Oh, it's like an advertisement. There's an invisible— yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, that's actually— I can make some money doing that probably.
- 4:17You know what you can't make money at?
- 4:19Podcasting.
- 4:20This podcast. So let's tell people what it is that we're doing here.
- 4:23Just in case they want to.
- 4:26Yeah. No, every month, one of us, we, we don't watch just any movie because one of us will pick a theme, a genre, some sort of guiding light, uh, like the, the light on the porch at Halloween to let you know the candy's here. This is the direction you go in. And we each choose a movie within that genre or theme or guiding light or out of that candy bowl. And then on the 4th week, we spin a wheel and we watch something tangentially related. That Keith chooses. This month was a Terry month. So that means he chose the theme. Now, Terry, you're going to have to tell us how this theme works because it's involved. It's intricate. It really narrows any movie down into just a few.
- 5:15That's true. Yeah.
- 5:16But remember, folks, Terry, Terry's the big swinger of the group.
- 5:19He— this, this is a big swing. It is.
- 5:21That's true. I'm starting to, you know, every time I have to explain this, I'm like, oh God, why did I pick this? So much explaining.
- 5:27Imagine you're wearing the Film Fumblers Month 11 t-shirt out and somebody's like, what does that mean? You're like, okay, let me explain.
- 5:34Hold on, hold on.
- 5:36The month, the month 11 t-shirt?
- 5:37Yes.
- 5:38We have a t-shirt for every month. Yeah. Every, every theme.
- 5:41Oh, one for each theme that we've done.
- 5:43Which isn't a bad idea.
- 5:45That is a great idea. We need to start doing that now. I want to—
- 5:48I don't know if you guys, uh, you guys probably don't watch too much wrestling, but, uh, John Cena's doing like this farewell tour. And so like every city he goes to, there's a different shirt.
- 5:58Oh yeah.
- 5:59And it's like, it's like color-coded, like based on wherever he's at. Like, uh, he had like San Antonio Spurs colors for a show there. He was just in, uh, Boston, so they had Red Sox colors, stuff like that. That'd be kind of cool if like every single like week we had a different— or every single month.
- 6:13Every week.
- 6:14Slow down there.
- 6:14Not every week, but every month we had
- 6:15like a
- 6:16different
- 6:17one. Yeah, 100 t-shirts.
- 6:18I think it's a really cool idea.
- 6:19And the back of the shirt continues to just add up like, like what each week was. And so if you get all of them, you go from just having one that said like—
- 6:28Oh, so it's like a concert shirt where it's got like the tour stops on it.
- 6:31And it just keeps adding as you go. So it goes all the way from January to Terry's PowerPoint at this point.
- 6:38Bumbling Through Film 2025 Tour.
- 6:40Yeah.
- 6:41Oh
- 6:41yeah, I like that. I like 2026, here we come.
- 6:44That's right.
- 6:45Slow down. Let's get through 2025 first.
- 6:46Nah, why bother?
- 6:49Yeah,
- 6:50you're right.
- 6:51Let's just skip. Let's just skip ahead to 2029 if we can.
- 6:55I'd like that.
- 6:56I think I would love that, to be honest.
- 6:58Let's just get it over. Yeah, let's just get there. 2029 is gonna be a great year. Just take it from the Fumble folks.
- 7:03God, I hope so.
- 7:05All right, Terry, let's just hit a new decade. All right, let's fast forward.
- 7:08Explain month 11.
- 7:10Okay. Month 11. Uh, so we're doing, I never heard us like phrase it this way before as numbering our months. It's throwing me off. So month 11 is basically, uh, it's Halloween time, right? We're doing, it's a spooky season. So I wanted to do something spooky, but I didn't want to just pick, you know, just any genre. I was like, you know what? Let's give us the option to pick. Each of us will pick a genre and then. Mm-hmm. I will self-curate, uh, 3 movies from each genre and we'll use our wild wheel of doom to pick randomly one of the 3 movies. So it's kind of a surprise. Could be a good movie, could be a questionable movie, could be a movie none of us have ever heard of. You never know. Well, I know because I picked all 3. Yeah. But I thought it would be fair since I picked all these movies that for my category that I had a friend fill it in anonymously. So I had no idea. Well, I knew who, uh, I don't know if that's the right term, but he secretly filled out all the things. I didn't know what the movies were, so on air, but it was revealed what they were.
- 8:10All right. So you had the first week and your subgenre of horror films was—
- 8:14Slasher movies.
- 8:16And the wheel gave us—
- 8:18Alice, Sweet Alice.
- 8:19Nice. And then I chose J-horror and the wheel gave us Audition. Excellent. And then Keith chose for his subgenre—
- 8:30Aussie horror.
- 8:31Australia, mate.
- 8:34And
- 8:34the wheel gave us...
- 8:36Wake in Fright.
- 8:37Wake in Fright from 1971.
- 8:40Which is a movie that we have actually talked about once before.
- 8:43It came up. It came up from Crocodile Dundee conversation.
- 8:48Yeah,
- 8:49you can believe it.
- 8:49Before we talk about Wake in Fright and our viewing of it, before we even get closer than we could imagine to Wake in Fright with a deep dive, did any of us have any previous Experience of Wake and Fright. No,
- 9:03I think it was mentioned during Crocodile in the episode.
- 9:05It was mentioned in the film. Yep.
- 9:08I even forgot about that. Yeah, there's nothing. There's nothing.
- 9:11Yeah, blank slate for me too. It's like, okay, give me what you got, Wake and Fright.
- 9:16I saw on a bunch of Australian horror lists, so that's why— that's the only way I heard of it.
- 9:21It's interesting that was on horror lists.
- 9:24That's what I thought too. That's what I thought too.
- 9:26But maybe to an Australian, this is very scary stuff, which it could be.
- 9:31Or an Englishman.
- 9:32Well, imagine if, if us civilized blokes were watching something from like deep, deep backwoods South America. Not South America, South, comma, America.
- 9:48South United States.
- 9:49Southern United States, yes.
- 9:50Or like up in like the hills.
- 9:53Like a Deliverance sort of thing.
- 9:55Yes. That would be—
- 9:56that's Terrifying to people.
- 9:59I kind of got a Deliverance vibe out of this a little bit.
- 10:01Yes, and we'll get to that. But before we get to that, Keith is going to take us closer to waking fright than we could ever dare to imagine with another pending Bubbler's Deep Dive.
- 10:13Have a drink, mate. Have a fight, mate. Have a taste of dust and sweat, mate. There's nothing else out here.
- 10:24Mate.
- 10:25That's a— that's it. That's off the poster. Yeah, they didn't put the mate at the end, I don't think, at that last part.
- 10:29No, they didn't.
- 10:30Anyway, that is, uh, the tagline for Wake in Fright. Rated R, uh, 100 and some odd minutes depending on what you're— which version you get to watch.
- 10:42Now you want to hear something crazy?
- 10:43Yeah.
- 10:44So if I open IMDb in Chrome I get American ratings like RPG, whatever. When I open up in Firefox, I get like global ratings. I don't know what it is. It's rated X.
- 11:01X?
- 11:02X.
- 11:03Interesting.
- 11:05Okay.
- 11:05Usually I get like 18, 13. This one's rated X.
- 11:09Wow. Okay.
- 11:10Interesting. So
- 11:11this is extreme.
- 11:13It is to the extreme. It rocks the mic like a vandal.
- 11:18Oh, good one.
- 11:21Thanks,
- 11:22Keith. This movie—
- 11:24that was good too, I guess.
- 11:27Don't pander, Terry.
- 11:28Yeah, I'm sorry. All right,
- 11:31this movie came out on October 9th, 1971.
- 11:34Oh, just in time for Halloween.
- 11:36Oh, it is 54 years.
- 11:37Christmas in it.
- 11:3854 years, 7 days since its release,
- 11:42and it's old. Older than me.
- 11:44Yeah, that makes it a Gen X Libra in the year of a pig.
- 11:49Oh wow! It's a Gen Xer, huh?
- 11:52Yes. This had an estimated budget of $800,000 Australian, which is about $519 US.
- 12:00Okay.
- 12:02Worldwide, it made $269K.
- 12:05Uh huh.
- 12:07About fifty some thousand of it was. like in the US. $65 was in New Zealand.
- 12:12$65?
- 12:13Yep.
- 12:14Only like, like 10 tickets were— well, this is '71, probably like 50 tickets were sold in New Zealand.
- 12:22Depends if they went to a matinee or not. Yeah,
- 12:24like one screening probably.
- 12:25Yes. Well, speaking of one screens, United Artists had so little faith in the film that when it opened in America, it opened in a single theater on the east side of New York on a Sunday night. On top of that, a blizzard had just started. And because of these factors, not a single person—
- 12:41200,000?
- 12:42Uh, only like 50,000 in America though. Oh, because of those factors, not a single person saw the film on its opening day here in America.
- 12:49I believe that.
- 12:51Yeah. All the odds were against it.
- 12:53All the odds. This is like pre-internet. Like, how would you even know this movie was coming out?
- 12:57Yeah, there's no trailers. Probably the blizzard is stopping any sort of, yeah, foot traversal. So
- 13:03yeah, there'd be no, uh, trailers telling you that it was a 1971 Cannes Film Fest, uh, Palme d'Or nominee.
- 13:11Oh, see, see,
- 13:12which I, I do believe that's given to the best movie of the—
- 13:15Yeah, nominee.
- 13:17Yeah, exactly. Festival. Uh, also in 2017, there's a 2-episode miniseries, uh, done on the entire thing.
- 13:26Oh wow, okay, that's kind of cool. I could see this being a miniseries.
- 13:30All right, so this movie was directed by William Ted Kotcheff. I think I'm pronouncing that right. He's born in Canada to Bulgarian parents and got himself a degree in English literature, and then began his professional, uh, career directing at age 24 in the Canadian Broadcast Corporation. And at that time, he was the youngest director ever in the CBC.
- 13:53Wow, good for him.
- 13:55Now Uh, again, because the internet didn't exist when we were younger, I, uh, never heard of this guy before. However, I've seen several of his movies. Oh yeah, Kotcheff also directed, uh, North Dallas Forty, um, which I've actually never seen that, but I do know what it is. It's a football movie. It's usually listed as one of the better football movies out there.
- 14:14Never even heard of it.
- 14:15Uh, he did a little movie called First Blood.
- 14:18Oh, Rambo.
- 14:20Yeah, yeah, the, uh, the original one. Um, he did this other Army movie called Uncommon Valor.
- 14:26Uh-huh.
- 14:27That I've seen a number of times. It's got Gene Hackman as the lead, but it's 10 years after his son went MIA in Vietnam. A retired colonel assembles a private rescue team to find Americans held in POW camps in Laos.
- 14:43I
- 14:43remember seeing it as a kid and like probably not having any idea really, like all the other background, like, like Vietnam stuff, and just thought it was like a cool, like War rescue movie. Mm-hmm. I've watched it again as I got older. It's a pretty good movie.
- 14:57I know of it. I've never seen it.
- 14:59Yeah. Yeah. However, this guy's opus,
- 15:04oh,
- 15:05his grand movie that he did was a slow movie in 1989 about two idiots who try to pretend that their murdered employer is really alive.
- 15:14Oh, Weekend at Bernie's.
- 15:16Yes.
- 15:17Oh, he directed that.
- 15:20Wow, amazing. That's
- 15:23scary. That's crazy. I just watched these semi-recently.
- 15:29Uh-huh.
- 15:30Yeah, because I believe— didn't we talk about like there's something in Weekend at Bernie's 2 that you thought was really good? Like a dance scene or something?
- 15:37Yeah, Weekend at Bernie's— or well, Bernie, yeah, he gets reanimated anytime music starts playing. He starts dancing. I was like, that was the best part of Weekend at Bernie's 2. If that just— they just thrown that into the first one, it would be a perfect movie.
- 15:47Now, uh, Kocheff, he also, uh, well, it says uncredited, but I guess he wrote the screenplay for this as well.
- 15:53Okay.
- 15:54Um, it's based off a novel by Kenneth Cook.
- 15:57Okay.
- 15:58He wrote The Wake and Fright in 1961. Some of his other books include Chain of Darkness, uh, Blood House.
- 16:06Oh,
- 16:08uh, Pig.
- 16:10Yeah, not, not, not the Nicolas Cage one, but, uh This Pig is an adventure thriller about a conservationist who sets out to track a monstrous black pig whose lethal tusks have already massacred several dogs and almost ripped a man to pieces.
- 16:23Wow, that sounds kind of cool.
- 16:25I was looking at books by this guy and the, the COVID of Pig is amazing.
- 16:29It is amazing. You're right. Yeah, it's kind of metal there. I like that.
- 16:34Oh, I like this Pig. Can I get a t-shirt of this?
- 16:37I was just saying, that'd be a cool tattoo.
- 16:40Yes.
- 16:40Yeah.
- 16:41Like, that's all your chest.
- 16:43Red X Zarda's one.
- 16:44That's all good tattoos.
- 16:46A pig tattoo?
- 16:48Yep.
- 16:48Let's do it. Like the whole cover, it's gotta say the word pig and Kenneth Cook on it.
- 16:52It has to have Kenneth Cook's name on it. Yeah. I mean, it's only right to repay.
- 16:55So that way people know what the pig is.
- 16:58Yeah. They're gonna think his name is—
- 16:59oh, the novel. I gotcha. Yeah.
- 17:01You're like, is the pig's name Kenneth Cook? Why is it?
- 17:06Oh, if we do it like Charlotte's Web where Pig and Kenneth Cook are like in web above it.
- 17:12Oh, oh, that's—
- 17:13can you imagine that?
- 17:14Kenneth Cook.
- 17:15So this pig is like mauling a man and, um, Pig,
- 17:22those tusks are amazing.
- 17:23Try to get it— oh, but also maybe get it a little more of the, uh, like the Charlotte's Web animation but with the giant tusks and everything.
- 17:31I love it.
- 17:33Mr. Cook also had a couple of short story collections that I guess were pretty popular. One is called, uh, The Killer Koala.
- 17:39Okay.
- 17:41Wombat Revenge and The Frill-Necked Frenzy. And I guess those are just stories from, uh, stuff in the Outback, I guess. Random.
- 17:48Those are, those are just short stories or novels?
- 17:50Yeah. Yeah. A bunch of short story collections. Now, uh, I was looking at all the people in this little movie here and obviously we know, uh, John Mayon, Milan, I guess. I don't know. He's from Crocodile Dundee.
- 18:06Mm-hmm.
- 18:06Oh, of course.
- 18:08Yeah. Mm-hmm. He was also in this movie.
- 18:12Who is he in this movie?
- 18:14He's the bartender at the beginning and at the end who like sees him like when he's back by the schoolhouse.
- 18:20Oh, that guy?
- 18:21Or he's renting the house or a room from him or something maybe, I guess. Gotcha. Interesting. And we'll talk about this a little bit more, but there's another movie in 1971 called Walkabout that he is also in.
- 18:31Okay.
- 18:31Sounds like there was a little bit of the Armageddon, deeper impact, or deep impact thing going on here in 1971.
- 18:38Walkabout in this.
- 18:39Yeah, because this is one of two Australian shot films, both participating in the competition of the '71 Cannes Film Festival. This and Walkabout. Both films feature lead characters who are trying to return to Sydney, and they share John Mayon, Robert McDarra, and Carlo. Mancini, uh, from both casts. So Walkabout is 2 city-bred siblings are stranded in the Australian outback where they learn to survive with the aid of an Aboriginal boy on his walkabout.
- 19:08That's a little bit different.
- 19:10That is pretty different, I guess.
- 19:11This movie is considered, uh, an Ozploitation, an Australian exploitation film.
- 19:18Why?
- 19:19Um, I have no idea. That's all. That's all the little bit said for it.
- 19:26I think it's just because it's like Australian, and that was like just a thing. You know, people like oh.
- 19:30But it's made by Australian people though, right?
- 19:33The director's not Australian.
- 19:35Oh, that's true. You're right.
- 19:36Yeah, he's Canadian.
- 19:38Oh, so they're
- 19:39like
- 19:39appropriating Australian culture.
- 19:42Mm-hmm. I mean, I'm sure they there's a bunch of Australian actors, but lots
- 19:46of beer drinking in this
- 19:47movie.
- 19:48Ah, yes, there's a lot. Uh, beer drinking effect. I thought I had a little fact
- 19:56about 70,000 gallons of beer were drank in this movie.
- 19:59Yeah, there was, there was some sort of a note about how, about how much beer was drank.
- 20:03You see that guy chug the beers down, so you know he actually had to do that like physically every time. Imagine, hopefully not very many takes had to be done.
- 20:11It's like Kubrick, take 75. I'm gonna die.
- 20:18So
- 20:20Can't
- 20:20believe it. Uh, Kochef recalled that Chips Rafferty— that's like the cop guy that he runs into at the bar at the beginning.
- 20:28Yep.
- 20:29This was his last, uh, film appearance.
- 20:31Oh,
- 20:32yep. He insisted on drinking real pints of beer during the bar sequences. When Kochef scheduled non-alcoholic beers for the real stuff, uh, Rafferty could tell immediately there's no alcoholic content, demanded proper pints be served. He told Coach Jeff, "You concentrate on directing. I'll concentrate on the drinking." Director calculated that due to this, Rafferty was drinking up to thirty pints per day.
- 20:55Yowza! That's a lot of beer.
- 20:57Yeah, he makes it look easy in this movie.
- 21:03He also makes it not only easy but a little creepy because every time he's like, "You know, I'll go grab another one," the guy hasn't like finished drinking, so he starts to chug it down. The guy just like. Really staring at him in like a way of like, uh-huh, that seems very, uh, wrong somehow. Yeah, he seemed like really getting into, uh, watching the guy drink. So I, I really didn't recognize— I looked at all the rest of the people in this movie and like nothing really stood out as far as like other movies and stuff like that they were in, which is, you know, we do kind of run into that every now and then. There's not a ton that we can fall back on, but there is one guy Well, yeah, I— yeah, don't jump ahead.
- 21:42Okay.
- 21:42Uh, there's one guy, uh, Donald Pleasence.
- 21:44Yes,
- 21:45who's in here.
- 21:46Thank you.
- 21:47Uh, he is known for things such as The Great Escape.
- 21:49What was— who was he in this movie?
- 21:51He's the doctor, the guy.
- 21:53Oh, okay, the bald guy. Yep.
- 21:54Yeah. Uh, it's The Great Escape. He was, uh, Blofeld in You Only Live Twice. Um, he's George Lucas's TX-1138. Uh, he escaped from Witch Mountain. He also escaped from New York. But in 1978 Yes, he is in probably what is considered his version of Christopher Lloyd's Doc Brown. He's Dr. Loomis in Halloween.
- 22:17I don't know about that.
- 22:19Well, he's he's in he's in a bunch of like he's in what part two? He's in part four, part five.
- 22:25Oh, as in like his legacy. I thought you were comparing the two characters like Doc Brown.
- 22:30No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. That this is. This is, uh, Donald Pleasence's version of—
- 22:36okay,
- 22:37yeah, career-wise. Yes, it's probably the thing he's known the best for. Great Scott, Michael Myers has killed another teenager! Yeah. Marty, we gotta get out of here! And, and it's only because the longevity of Halloween that I think makes it— because if not, I would think that, um, in 1989, a Miami manual rickshaw driver finds himself entangled in the murder of a man he just met, he becomes part of a good versus evil battle between an ancient Chinese witch and an even— even jealous— even— I can't pronounce that— even jealous, who's actually the devil incarnate in American Rickshaw.
- 23:14American Rickshaw?
- 23:16Rickshaw.
- 23:17Yeah, yeah, it's another Donald Pleasence movie.
- 23:20You think if it wasn't for Halloween, he'd be known for American Rickshaw?
- 23:24Yep, I think that's what it is. Halloween wasn't so good.
- 23:28Yep.
- 23:28He'd be known for American Rickshaw.
- 23:30I think he wow. He must be. I bet he's really good in that movie. Is he like the rickshaw driver?
- 23:36I assume he's the devil incarnate. Rickshaw. Yeah, yeah, that's what he's yeah.
- 23:39Oh yeah, yeah. He plays the the physical part.
- 23:42He plays the name. He plays a guy named Rickshaw. That's what it
- 23:45is. Hey, yep.
- 23:46I assume he's the the evangelist who is the devil incarnate. That's gonna be my assumption.
- 23:52Oh, now that's that's that'd be a good role for him.
- 23:54Mm hmm.
- 23:55Yeah. I like the idea of like Lieutenant Rickshaw.
- 23:59And all he does is ride rickshaws everywhere. He doesn't have a police car.
- 24:02Yep.
- 24:03You know, we watched this on YouTube. That's where it was available. And, uh, uh-huh. Sure. There's a couple different options to watch on there. And one is a really weird bootleg version that I watched half of.
- 24:15Some man filming his TV screen.
- 24:17Before, and before switching over to the other one to where I saw that I was only seeing like 50% of the screen.
- 24:23Um, It took me a little bit to realize that it was at an angle and also zoomed in by like—
- 24:30yeah, yeah.
- 24:31But when the credits come up and the credits aren't even on the screen, you're just like, well, okay.
- 24:36I thought I was just looking at scenery. I was like, this is nice, I guess.
- 24:38Yeah, also it was a slightly slowed down version that made it more like 2 hours and 14 minutes instead of the hour and 48 it was supposed to be. Part of the reason I think that we end up seeing these different versions, because this film went out of circulation for many years. Uh, its 2 production companies fell apart. NLT Productions was liquidated, uh, soon after this failed release, and then Group W, uh, was absorbed by CBS in 1999. The original film, sound elements all went missing. They eventually found it in 2002. Um, they tracked the film down to CBS's Iron Mountain archive in Pittsburgh, uh, where there was 60 cans of film that were found in a shipping container marked for destruction. Oh, wow.
- 25:23Wow.
- 25:23This just saved it. Yeah, it's almost completely disappeared.
- 25:26That's wild.
- 25:27The, uh, hunting— well, I'm sorry, the international version of this is, uh, roughly 8 minutes shorter than the, uh, full Australian version.
- 25:36Did they cut out the kangaroo stuff?
- 25:38They cut out a lot of stuff. So, um, when John wakes up after, uh, after the two-up game, uh, instead of being naked, he's wearing underpants.
- 25:49Weird. They, they put digital underwear on him?
- 25:51I don't know if they filmed 2 versions of it or what. I got the— it was in the first half of the movie, so I saw the, the booty cheek scene.
- 25:59Yeah.
- 26:00Uh, when, when Jeanette is seducing John.
- 26:04Yeah.
- 26:04Um, I guess it fades to black before she nuzzles up against him. Um, and then—
- 26:09Why?
- 26:10And then just cuts to— and it cuts to Doc doing his handstand.
- 26:15It's too provocative.
- 26:16Uh-huh. Uh, the— there's an entire conversation between John and Doc that's completely missing.
- 26:23Huh.
- 26:23And I do believe I saw the whole thing.
- 26:25Uh-huh. I saw the whole thing too.
- 26:27Yep. The daytime kangaroo hunt lacks most of the brief scene, uh, in which Doc cuts off the kangaroo's testicles.
- 26:33Oh,
- 26:34okay. Probably fine. That's fine.
- 26:37No, it's the story.
- 26:39And the nighttime kangaroo hunt is severely, uh, cut back with only the first 2 kills are shown.
- 26:44I'd almost be thankful for that. Yeah.
- 26:46Yeah. Oh yeah, because I watched— not only was it the longer version but also slow version, and I was just like—
- 26:52He didn't like turn up the speed at all? So you watch these kangaroos die in slow motion
- 26:57as they're boxing them and everything? It's crazy.
- 26:59Wow.
- 26:59Yeah, I know, I saw it.
- 27:00Yeah. Um, I watched the last like 30 minutes of this on the normal version, or the, the nicer looking version, so I don't know how much of the other stuff I No, it was all—
- 27:11I think they're the same version. One version's a man filming it on his TV at an angle, and then there's like an actual like digital upload of the movie.
- 27:18Because I thought it was funny, uh, he— we're gonna get there— where he loses all this money betting and then they cut, hard cut to him being literally ass out.
- 27:29Yes. I was like, wow, he had a rough night. It's like, wow,
- 27:32all right,
- 27:34that's how you gotta sleep. Go ahead. Let it all hang out.
- 27:37Apparently the artificial banknotes printed for the, uh, shooting of the 2-up gambling sequence look so realistic that 2 of the extras were later arrested for trying to pass them off as genuine currency.
- 27:46I believe that. Yep.
- 27:48Yep. And then, uh, the last thing that I'll bring up here is this movie is part of the 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die.
- 27:57Okay.
- 27:57By Steven Schneider.
- 27:58Man, I'm 2 for 2. 2 weeks in, we like collectively, we have seen 2 of the 1001 What is the percentage of that? That's,
- 28:07well,
- 28:072 out of 1,001.
- 28:09I'm gonna do the math right now.
- 28:10So I went and, uh, I Googled up the 1,001 movies to see before you die,
- 28:18and we're gonna list them all here right now.
- 28:20Uh, Wikipedia has a list, it's over on Fandom. I don't— the order of the list is based on the 2015 edition, so that was 10 years ago, so we'd have to even look a little bit further in here. They put them in order from, uh, so A Trip to the Moon is in 1902,
- 28:40uh-huh,
- 28:40The Great Train Robbery in 1903. I'm not gonna go through all of them, um,
- 28:44thank you.
- 28:45But they keep, they, they keep rolling through. They go in, uh, they go in chronological order. And so I rolled all the way here to 1971. That it's not on here.
- 28:55Interesting. Maybe got the boot at some point.
- 28:58So at some point in time, yes, it seems
- 29:00like it came out in 2015 that pushed Wake and Fright out. Well, this was—
- 29:07well, this was— I— and this was in 2015, so who knows when. Uh, now say, okay, this said the list is based on 2015, but they got stuff in up to 2020 in here. I also went over to, um, listchallenges.com.
- 29:19Okay.
- 29:20Okay, the 1001 Movies to See Before You Die list.
- 29:23Is it their own separate list?
- 29:24No, no. So basically what— so basically what I was looking for was, is there one that shows you like
- 29:30who got kicked out?
- 29:32Yeah. So like, okay, so on this
- 29:33list here, you want to like see revision history on it?
- 29:36No, what I wanted to know was like, so like, yeah, so something— so something came out already, like where are we at? And so there's a total of 1,187 movies listed. through 2015 that would have, that would have made up this list. So yes, obviously some things drop off.
- 29:55So 1,187 movies make up the list of 1,001 movies you have to see?
- 30:00Well, I think every time he puts out a new edition, it's because he's, you know, he has to chop some stuff off. This is a complete list of everything that's ever been
- 30:08on there.
- 30:08Oh, adds and adds instead of takes away.
- 30:10Yeah. Um, and so that's where I think like
- 30:14it was on there for that.
- 30:15Well, yes. Yeah, that so then that would be on here because it's got to be still included. Yeah, it's right on here. Wake and Fright. What you call is actually also on here. Walkabout is.
- 30:24Oh, I thought you say what you call like the candy bar. All I know is the last two weeks we've watched 0.199 percent of the 1,001 movies,
- 30:33and I aim to keep it that way.
- 30:36Yeah, we're gonna watch no more that end on that list.
- 30:39Yeah. Yep. There's no way we'll ever watch another movie on that list.
- 30:42Yeah. So I, I, and again, I, I would like to know more about how this full list gets, gets put together and like how often do they update it? Like, is it annually? Is it, 'cause there's only 12 editions of it, I guess it says. So I don't know when they started and when they finished. You know,
- 30:59like, you think they like, they started after 1,001 movies were out, so they're like, all right, we can make our list now. And they like, so just every movie in existence,
- 31:07like the first 1,001 movies that were ever released.
- 31:09Yeah. Yeah.
- 31:10Oh yeah. He, he had to wait until 1001.
- 31:12Yeah. He was just waiting. He's like, oh, I've, I've got—
- 31:15there's a full list. And then the following, the following week, 3 more movies came out. He's like, goddammit.
- 31:19He's just writing 'em down as they come out. Yeah. They all think it's my time. I have the greatest idea. And then, yeah, it gets totally ruined.
- 31:27Then he puts a bunch of 'em onto a wheel of death, lets it spin. Oh God. Next thing you know. Yep.
- 31:33Could you imagine putting all 1001 movies on our wheel of death?
- 31:36Oh my gosh.
- 31:38One at a time, manually entering each time.
- 31:40I actually, I actually meant he was just putting like whatever, like the last, like the last 5 in, last 5 out type movies.
- 31:47Terry, that's a challenge.
- 31:48That would be a fun wheel of death, but I think the time it takes to put— I think we could find some sort of program.
- 31:54Copy paste a list. That's not a problem.
- 31:57You know what? That would, you know what? That would, that would make it even better though. Because if I just picked one movie off there, I didn't get it. That's fine. There's 1,000 other movies I could have picked. I wouldn't feel as bad.
- 32:07My— our luck, we get the 1,001 list, the first spin Adaptation or Audition, the second spin Wake and Fright.
- 32:16It's all movies we've seen already.
- 32:18There's 1,001 movies, we get the 2 we watched back to back.
- 32:21Yeah, Back to the Future 2, we get that next. You know that's on there. That's probably on there.
- 32:27It is.
- 32:28I'm sure it is. For a thousand and one movies, at some point he's just throwing stuff on there. So like yeah, you know that thing's on there.
- 32:38Lone Wolf McQuaid is on there. What?
- 32:40If that's on there, I'm gonna have to be.
- 32:44It invalidates the list immediately.
- 32:47If I see any sign of that
- 32:48movie, the other thousand movies are rendered moot. Oh goddamn! That was close, Keith.
- 32:58That was close.
- 32:59It was, it was.
- 33:00It's getting really hot out there.
- 33:01It was so close, I could smell the beer breath of Wake and Fright.
- 33:04I can smell it too. And the rotting kangaroo corpses.
- 33:08Oh God.
- 33:09The, the smell of, uh, kangaroo
- 33:11blood.
- 33:12What? Tom Pleasence looked like he smelled very bad during that movie.
- 33:16I bet he did. He lived in a hut that was just garbage.
- 33:19Everybody in that movie smells bad, including the girl. I can't think of what her name was.
- 33:24Yeah, they didn't, they didn't have
- 33:26Jeanette, they all smelled
- 33:27terrible. Seemed like none of them had showers, or they just refused to partake in them. That might also be—
- 33:31didn't seem like there's a lot of water out there.
- 33:33Water is only for bathing, not for drinking.
- 33:35Yeah, they probably bathed in beer half the time.
- 33:37Yeah, why not? I mean, they bathed in beer at least once in this movie.
- 33:42That's true. There's a lot of beer in this.
- 33:45A lot of beer. All right, so we need to talk about Wake and Fright. Waken Fright, the name is misleading.
- 33:54It is.
- 33:56Yeah, it's not that— I mean, it's frightful in some ways, but,
- 33:59but
- 33:59yeah.
- 33:59So this, this is, this is of the, of the Halloween trick-or-treat variety. You go to the house.
- 34:08Yes.
- 34:08And you get something you enjoy, like money, but you're like, that's not what I wanted.
- 34:14I wanted candy.
- 34:15I didn't want 3 nickels. Right? Yeah, whatever Keith said to nickels wrapped in foil. Like, I like— I want money, but I didn't want money,
- 34:24right? Oh, you gave me—
- 34:25I wanted the Twix.
- 34:27You gave me a coupon to Subway, so I can't actually— yeah, exactly.
- 34:30Give me Twizzlers. Give me what I'm here for, right?
- 34:33Yeah,
- 34:34yeah.
- 34:34Now this is good. It's very good, as a matter of fact.
- 34:37Um,
- 34:39oh, you didn't like it, Keith?
- 34:40This
- 34:41doesn't seem like a Keith movie to me.
- 34:43It's very slow.
- 34:44Yes, it's very slow-paced. And I get it because part— it's, it's a— there's a buildup. There's— it's a slow burn. It's working its way up to this.
- 34:54Unlike Audition, it doesn't— there's no payoff.
- 34:58That— and that might be the problem is like,
- 34:59that's
- 35:00true.
- 35:01There's a whole lot of stuff that— so like, I kept getting a bit of like a, like Texas Chainsaw Massacre type vibe.
- 35:10Oh yes.
- 35:11With it and like felt that it was going to keep building up to something more and more. And yeah, it does. It's just it builds up to more and more drinking and people doing crazy stuff while they're completely wasted.
- 35:25I think it, it does build to like a psychological breaking point. But yes, it, um, I was expecting— this is our— I think just because I'm predetermined to expect this from a Halloween month that we're doing I was expecting like murdering of human beings.
- 35:40I'm like, boy, this would be the best 20 minutes of film ever.
- 35:43Yeah, the Australians are all gonna try and kill this poor teacher. That's
- 35:48why I thought so too,
- 35:49but they don't. If
- 35:51anything, kangaroos come back for revenge. Oh,
- 35:54that'd be nice. Have an army of them come swarming the town. Oh man, that would be awesome. And then there's that one guy who's dressed— just a man dressed in a kangaroo skin running around like in Crocodile Dundee.
- 36:05Oh,
- 36:06by
- 36:06the way,
- 36:08uh, the hunter scenes depicted in the film, uh, were taken during an actual kangaroo hunt.
- 36:13Yeah, they put that up at the end of our viewing.
- 36:16Yeah, I saw that. I was a little concerned because I don't really like animal violence in movies because I'm like, there's really not a need for it, you know? Usually, I would say almost 100% of the time. Um, and I was seeing this like, oh my God, like, did they just murder a bunch of kangaroos?
- 36:31This is authentic animal violence.
- 36:33But it was like an actual, like, I guess
- 36:36kangaroo hunt.
- 36:37Yeah, which is still disturbing, but like, yes, I guess at least they didn't— like, the filmmakers didn't go out and just murder a bunch themselves.
- 36:44Yeah,
- 36:45they kind of did.
- 36:46But I, but I guess I was— I, I guess I was kind of expecting like somewhere along the way of the kangaroo hunt they decided they were gonna hunt him.
- 36:53Yes, yes. No,
- 36:55that didn't happen either.
- 36:57Especially like there's that long stretch where like he rides along with that guy for 50 miles and the guy's like, come have a drink with me. He's like, no, I quit drinking beer. Anything else crazy can happen. You guys get really pissed if somebody doesn't come have a drink with you. They find somebody driving, and that person takes him right back to the 50 miles where he just left from. Yep. And so it's like, and you're like, okay, it gonna be maybe like this kind of like nonstop loop of stuff.
- 37:22There's four times he woke up in this movie.
- 37:25Yeah. And
- 37:26he's because every time he woke up, I was like, is this the moment it's in fright?
- 37:29This time, this time he's gonna be scared. Nope. He seems just disgruntled.
- 37:33But the first time he woke up. was he woke up after being pissed drunk. He woke up in dude's shack. I'm like, oh, this, this is where it's gonna get really gross now.
- 37:45Or was that the second time? Because first time he was like naked in his hotel room. Oh,
- 37:49okay. He woke up 5 times in this movie then, because he woke up after ass out. I'm like, okay, well, he's broke. He's dead broke. Even the hotel only cost $4. I agree.
- 38:02I was very amazed at how much everything cost.
- 38:05It's 1971. But still, $4, that's it?
- 38:08And, and, and that included the deposit you had to put down for the key.
- 38:12The dollar deposit for the key. So he woke up then, ass out. Okay. In fright, I guess.
- 38:18And then, and then some guy just offers to buy him some drinks and play pool. Everyone wants him and invites him in.
- 38:24Everyone's very friendly in Yapa.
- 38:26Yeah, they're too friendly, it seems like.
- 38:29Yeah, it's like one of us.
- 38:30Aggressively friendly.
- 38:32Yeah.
- 38:33Aggressively friendly.
- 38:34They're playing a weird—
- 38:35they're playing a beer.
- 38:37Yes, I was— so that was the other thing. I was like, that cop guy was like really trying to get him to drink a lot, and I was like, okay, this is an outsider, clearly they're gonna get him drunk and then they're gonna like hunt him down or something.
- 38:49Nope.
- 38:49And instead we just— the ramblings of the evening continue to go on longer and longer.
- 38:54Yeah, it's just like this guy living in a few days in the life of people who live in this town. Like, he's not really like It's just not mentally— like, this is a cyclical thing, you know? I guess, like, I think it's just this movie's showing you how easy it is to get trapped in something like this. This is just what you do now, is you just get drunk all the time and you go out into the outback and shoot kangaroos and fight each other, and then just move on to the next day and do the same thing all over again.
- 39:19Yep, pretty much. I'm— so of the times they woke up, the first time he woke up, passed out, he woke up in the dude's shack. And then he woke up again in the shack. And I'm almost positive that what we didn't see in between the cuts was a, a, uh, Brokeback Mountain scenario.
- 39:43Yep.
- 39:44Oh yeah,
- 39:45definitely.
- 39:45So that happened there, and he woke up that, and that's when he was like, I'm getting the fuck out of here, I can't do this, blah blah. And then he woke up again in the hospital After trying to kill himself.
- 39:57Mm-hmm.
- 39:59And then he woke up again in the back of the truck, coming back to—
- 40:03Uh, no, waking up in the truck and then waking up in the hospital.
- 40:07No, he— what? No,
- 40:09no, he wakes up in the truck and he has a mental breakdown. He runs out there and then—
- 40:12Yep, you're right.
- 40:12For a guy who, who got gold medals in shooting, you couldn't shoot yourself from 3 inches away. Kind of questionable.
- 40:19You're right. That's the order. He woke up in the truck, he's back in Yapa or Japa or whatever it's called, and then he woke up after trying to kill himself.
- 40:27And like, you know, for all like the craziness that happens, all like, you know, Donald Pleasence's character is there. It's like, come on, I'll get your bag for you. Let's go. Yeah. Let's get you to the train station.
- 40:38He's an enabler.
- 40:39Yep. Thanks for, you know, coming out. Let, let me get you on back to where you need to be.
- 40:44That's how all these people are. They're all enablers. Like they're all friendly. Like, yeah, here you can just stay at my house. You know, like, ah, we don't care. We'll buy your beers and stuff. But then it's just like this toxic environment. You don't want to stay there,
- 40:55but you're trying to pay the guy a dollar and the guy's like, no, I'm not taking anything from you.
- 40:59I'm gonna tell you what though, when he's, when he's talking about how you can live there with no money, it's like, God, that's the dream.
- 41:07Mm-hmm.
- 41:08It's not so bad. People pay part of the community, gotta contribute a little bit, and you live, just like live a life.
- 41:14You'd be an alcoholic doctor.
- 41:16I don't want to be an alcoholic doctor.
- 41:18No, but I'm like, he's, he's, he's an, he's an alcoholic doctor, and but because he's a doctor, he's a man of, uh, higher intelligence, so they treat him with respect regardless of his, his issues with alcohol. And they bring him beer and they bring him food.
- 41:31Well, you can't, you can't look down your nose at anybody in that town for being an alcoholic because they're all, they're all
- 41:36alcoholics. Yeah, that's true.
- 41:38Yeah, yeah, you know, he's even like, all— he's like, I only drink beer now. Because that's—
- 41:44oh yeah, and they try to give him whiskey and he's like, get the fuck out of my face with that whiskey.
- 41:49Yeah,
- 41:494 whiskeys, 3 whiskeys, you better not give me a whiskey.
- 41:52But I do believe, I do believe he ends up drinking some because then he really kind of goes off the rails.
- 41:56Oh yeah, they, they went— they were out of control. Like, if you're the, if you're the, uh, the purveyor of that establishment where they went and fucked everything up in Wouldn't you just shoot him?
- 42:10Seems like something that could easily happen out there. Like, no big deal.
- 42:15Like, if you just shot him, he'd be like, yeah, they were fucking up my shit.
- 42:18This guy was smacking my building with a chair and destroying the wall.
- 42:22Yeah. It's instead he's like accommodating. He's like, I'll bring you more beers. What?
- 42:26They're too friendly.
- 42:27The moment they broke down the door to announce that they were there is the moment they get a, like a buckshot in the face. I'm telling you what.
- 42:35That's the difference between Australia and the United States.
- 42:37And me.
- 42:38Well, and it's also, and also there's like the whole thing. Those 2 guys are like, you know, fucking with each other the whole day. Yeah. Like laughing it up, doing stupid stuff, all the stuff the whole day. And then one guy pushes the other one a little too hard and continues to laugh at it after it happens. And then that sets the other dude off and he decides now instead of messing around all day, now I'm gonna kill you.
- 43:02Yep. I mean, that's a very drunk thing, I feel like.
- 43:04Yeah. And yeah, they found, they just hit, they hit a certain wall.
- 43:07It's a very drunk thing. They were classic drunk thing.
- 43:09Yeah, yeah, that's what I like this movie. It's like, uh, it reminded me, you know, of like the kind of like social horror, like the Ari Aster Hereditary, Midsommar kind of thing, where a lot of it's like there's just like the awkward social interactions and situations you get in. It makes it uncomfortable. And I think that's what like this whole movie is basically. It's just like this guy like doesn't want to do it, but then he gets sucked into it. He starts having fun, but there's always that tension of like he doesn't really like Belong with these people, and there's like just a sinister like undertone of them always just like enabling him. Like you were saying, and just keeps pushing.
- 43:45He's so worried that they're laughing at him too, and they never are.
- 43:50No,
- 43:50but like from his perspective, like they're laughing at him for making the bet or whatever, laughing at him for doing it wrong, or laughing at him for being drunk, and they're not. They're laughing with them. They're all drunk as hell.
- 44:00They're all having fun.
- 44:01Yeah.
- 44:02By the way, what a mo what an incredibly relaxed. um, betting gambling game. Like, if it comes up where— so you have to flip 2 coins. If they both come up heads or they both come up tails, depending on who— what you've called, then somebody wins.
- 44:19Yeah.
- 44:20And it's, and it's kind of self-regulated who's winning, who's losing. But if it comes up 1 and 1, all right, we'll just do it over again.
- 44:25Yeah.
- 44:26Or if you, or if you're new to it and you don't flip the coins properly, we're like, ah, don't worry about We'll do it again.
- 44:32Yeah. With no problems.
- 44:35Yeah.
- 44:35But they weren't like harassing him. And even before he decided to get into the gambling, he's— when he was talking to the doctor, it like after he's eaten his dollar steak, like dollar steaks, $4 rooms, man, you could live here.
- 44:49By the way, not just a dollar steak. He had a steak with a potato, fried eggs.
- 44:53Yeah.
- 44:53Yeah.
- 44:53That's a lot of food. Just a couple slices of bread. But he's like, what did he say? Something like, um, the uneducated celebrate you because, because you act like one of them, or something like something along those lines. He's like, I— because he was above the betting, but then he ended up blowing all of his money because they thought it was gonna get him free from his indentured servitude to the Australian education system.
- 45:18Well, yeah, because he did, he did, he did 2 flips of the, of the coin.
- 45:21He just needed $1,000. That's all he wanted. And he left there. He left there up money. He left.
- 45:26He had like eight hundred bucks.
- 45:28Yeah, it's like oh one more and I'm done. I can be out of this.
- 45:32Yeah, but that's a mistake. And he just kept it.
- 45:35Bet it all on heads because he was flipping.
- 45:38He would have lived like a king like you're saying. Everything's so cheap there. You
- 45:42know? Yeah.
- 45:43That was the other bad thing was that was the other bad thing was he wanted to call tails. They said no. If you're the one flipping, you have to call heads.
- 45:50Yeah, it's
- 45:51otherwise he would have been fine.
- 45:53Oh, that's a really good point, Keith.
- 45:55Yeah, yes, it is.
- 45:56No, because we all agree,
- 46:00yeah,
- 46:01this town forced him once again to go against his better judgment and who he— who—
- 46:08yes, you're right.
- 46:09Well, and because of that, it's
- 46:11just
- 46:12their tradition sucks them down even further into this.
- 46:16It's not even out of benevolent or malevolence or Malevolence.
- 46:19Malevolence.
- 46:20Yeah, it's out of just them being friendly in their traditions and like, oh no, you can't
- 46:24call tails, you got to
- 46:25call heads,
- 46:25you're, you're
- 46:26the tosser. And that's about it.
- 46:28He flips it, he gets heads, and they're like, no, no, no, you have to throw it up above your head. And so he has to do it all over again. It's like calling— it's like when coaches call a timeout right when the kicker's like—
- 46:38Yep. Well, he didn't know.
- 46:39He's like, he didn't know.
- 46:41He's all excited, he's all pissed up on some beer and wanting to be part of the, the whatever.
- 46:47Couldn't call what he wanted to and then didn't know the proper procedure for flipping it anyway. And so it kind of cost him twice.
- 46:56Yeah.
- 46:56Before it eventually, uh, hit the tails and he lost the, the money off of it, the $500 and some. Oh no. Well, that was after he went back and cashed in the other check that he had.
- 47:05Yeah.
- 47:05Yeah. Uh, not a traditional, I think what you would think of as a horror film.
- 47:11No,
- 47:11I think it's more thriller, I guess.
- 47:13I don't know, thriller, psychological thriller. It, it's closer to like— I don't even know if it's a thriller because it's more, it's more of like a depressing drama.
- 47:22It's kind of tense though. I thought it was tense.
- 47:25There were some tense moments. Yeah, because you don't— because they were tense for me because I thought it was a horror movie.
- 47:32Yeah, true.
- 47:33And I'm waiting for the horror movie aspects to kick in.
- 47:36Yeah,
- 47:36and they never did.
- 47:37I guess the horror like aspects are just the real life of Getting drunk every day.
- 47:42You know what it reminds me of? Five Easy Pieces.
- 47:45Yes, it's a lot like that movie. It's a lot like—
- 47:48Because stuff happens and, and at the same time nothing actually happens because there's no, like, there's no payoff at the end of the book.
- 47:57It's all, it's all character development and character arc.
- 48:00Yeah.
- 48:01There's no action scenes.
- 48:02Which apparently I'm not a big fan of, apparently.
- 48:04Yeah. At the beginning of the movie he refuses the beer and at the end of the movie he accepts the beer.
- 48:08Yeah, it's nothing but beer.
- 48:09Well, that's right. He also gets mad at the guy. He's like, you know, you guys can, you know, kill people, whatever, but you don't say no to a beer. People get pissed off. He's like, I'm done drinking beer. And then after he gets outta the hospital, yeah, yeah. So he gets on, he gets on the train and immediately someone goes, you want a beer? He goes, yeah, sure, why not?
- 48:25Because at the beginning on the train he says, no, I don't want a beer. And then now he's all for it. He's all for it.
- 48:29Yeah, he's all for it.
- 48:30Oh, I would've hated being on that train at the beginning.
- 48:32Those guys were annoying singing that whole time. Oh, I would've gone crazy.
- 48:35As we're saying this stuff, this is like straight out of textbook scriptwriting. Like start in one place, return to that place, but change. Like there's bookending it where you're starting and ending in the same sort of shot. Yeah, there's lots of, there's lots of interesting things. I enjoyed this movie. Was it, was it what I was expecting? No.
- 48:56Yeah.
- 48:56But it, once, once I got into the groove of this movie, I was like, oh, it is. It's a lot like Five Easy Pieces, Keith. You're right. Where it is just depressing character development, watching people fail. I like that.
- 49:11Me too.
- 49:12As a movie, I think it's a good storytelling thing.
- 49:14As a movie, nothing— I don't want it in real life.
- 49:17I hate watching people fail, but in a movie it's like, ah, damn it, dude, you knew better than that, but you still did it.
- 49:23Part of me wonders if I would have, you know, if I would have watched the whole thing on the better version,
- 49:29would
- 49:30I have— would I have a little bit of a—
- 49:32For sure.
- 49:33Yeah. I mean, well, it still would've left me going like, oh, hey. Yeah. So the other thing is when, um, when he walks out and, uh, Donald Pleasence walks up and says something to him again and then takes his bag for him and they start to walk away, I thought maybe he was going back again. Like he was like, I thought so too. The change was, the change was he was just gonna go ahead and, and go there and stay there.
- 49:59Yeah, I thought that too.
- 50:00Live the outback life from now on.
- 50:02Oh, the outback life. Blooming onions.
- 50:05It's an outback.
- 50:06Oh man. Oh man. Blooming onions every day.
- 50:09Did you know? So blooming a blooming onion every day would be just as bad as drinking that many beers every day.
- 50:16I'd probably act exactly the same too.
- 50:18Yeah, you're all. I'm all fucked up on blooming onions.
- 50:21I eat about half of that. I'm like, I can't do this anymore. I can't. And then all the Australians like, come on, eat the blooming onion. No, I really, I shouldn't. Can't. Can't. I look. Look over to my side, some of the other guys already eaten his full blooming onion. I've barely even scratched the surface and he's just staring at me expectantly. He's like, oh God, I have to slurp it down in one big gulp.
- 50:40You're like, I need to go on a walkabout. And they're like, sir, this is just Kansas, the Outback Steakhouse here. You can— you need to go walk around, that's fine, but please pay your bill first.
- 50:51Mhm. You, sir, you ordered 12 blooming onions.
- 50:58Could you imagine seeing somebody with 12 blooming onions at the table by themselves?
- 51:03If they all come out at once, it's not even just like one at a time.
- 51:06See, now, okay, now see, that would be— now that would be the— that's what I would think was really crazy, because after a while they're not gonna taste good when they cool off. But if you were sitting there watching, and let's say it was like a— let's say it was like a Sunday during like football season, and so there's— and maybe it's here, like it's like this time of year, so you get some baseball going, there's some basketball, and you're at a sports bar or Something. We're like an Outback where if you sit at the bar, you can watch the games and stuff. And you just like, you saw a guy get one brought out to him, and then when he's about 2/3 done, they drop off the second one, and he finishes one and starts it, and they just keep coming out. Like, he's got, he's got them set up. So like, every time I get to about 3/4 done, guys, just bring the next one out.
- 51:46They would know that person when he comes in. He's like, okay, he's gonna want 12 blooming onions. He wants them every 26 minutes.
- 51:53Yeah, oh yeah, he's only gonna be here for 3 hours.
- 51:56Um, yep, he's, he's watching, he's watching the Falcons game. He's gonna be here for about 3 and a half hours.
- 52:01Falcons, I guess he would want to bury that sorrow with a blooming onion.
- 52:07Oh, I mean, it's the only way to cope. It's the only way to cope. I would, you know, this is the— I'm gonna throw this out to all listeners. This is the blooming onion challenge. Can you eat 12 blooming onions in 3 and a half hours?
- 52:17The Fumbler's blooming onion challenge.
- 52:20Oh, okay. Yeah, how many, how many would you think What does that translate to? How many can you eat during, while listening to one of our episodes?
- 52:27So much fried onion.
- 52:29Yeah. So if it's 12 over 3 hours, are we talking like, can you eat 4 of them while you listen to this episode?
- 52:35Oh yeah. That's the Bubblers challenge. Yeah. During an episode, how many Blue Moons can you finish? So you gotta go to Outback, you gotta pull out your headphones, throw 'em on, start down.
- 52:48And then not only do you get our monthly monthly t-shirts every
- 52:52month.
- 52:53But you also get the I did the fumblers.
- 52:56I ate the fumblers.
- 52:58Yeah, I did the fumblers. I ate the fumblers' ass. That's the real challenge.
- 53:08I, I did the fumblers blooming onion challenge and all I got was a stupid t-shirt.
- 53:13Yep.
- 53:14If any listeners out there can prove that they did the fumblers blooming onion challenge,
- 53:18yeah,
- 53:19I will, I will buy a t-shirt and send it to you.
- 53:21And if you're like really into the show, you gotta do it like with the pop star episode that's really short. Yeah,
- 53:26yeah.
- 53:27But you only got like 56 minutes to eat four or three blooming onions or whatever it is.
- 53:34Yeah, I just want to know how many you can do.
- 53:35Yeah, make sure you videotape it. Otherwise, it didn't happen.
- 53:38Get to film the whole thing. Yeah,
- 53:39of course, of course.
- 53:41I'm gonna and I'm gonna sit there and watch the whole like hour and a half or however long it takes. You know,
- 53:46I'll just fast forward to the end.
- 53:47Oh God, that's so much fried onion.
- 53:50I mean, I can eat maybe like half of a blooming onion before I'm tired of onions.
- 53:55Oh, I, I could, I could eat a whole blooming onion.
- 53:59But maybe, you know, maybe next, maybe on a free weekend, I'll go down to Outback and just— I'm doing the, the Fumblers blooming onion challenge. They're like, what? 2 years from now, they're gonna be like, the Fumblers were arrested for inciting violence at Outback Steakhouse.
- 54:16No, no, no. 2 years from now, it's Uh, this is Fumbling Through Films sponsored by Outback Steakhouse.
- 54:23Of
- 54:23course,
- 54:24we're gonna make Outback rich and we're gonna go to jail for people dying or eating blooming onions.
- 54:28Yeah. All right, we did it. We got through Wake in Fright from 1971. What'd you guys think?
- 54:35Not my cup of tea.
- 54:37Not your— I knew you were gonna say that, or something to that extent. I liked it. I Was— it wasn't a horror movie, which is what I was looking forward to, but it was good. I like— I liked it in the way that we were talking about earlier, the 5 easy pieces.
- 54:55You know what my— you know what my favorite part of it is?
- 54:57The end?
- 54:58No, my favorite part overall is the fact that, um, I'm picking Weekend at Bernie's for our, uh, the Wheel of Death.
- 55:06Oh God,
- 55:08you
- 55:08can't stream that anywhere. Like he
- 55:10literally like wasn't
- 55:11gonna pick anyway.
- 55:15Terry, what did you think of that? We could split between Derek loved it. I didn't like it. What did you think?
- 55:20I didn't love it. I thought it was good.
- 55:23I enjoyed it as well. It was not what I expected. No, it popped when I was doing my research for Australian horror movies. This always popped up on the list, and I'm like kind of questioning that. I get it's kind of a thriller psychological drama kind of thing. And it does have that kind of like, I feel like the Ari Aster vibe of like this social awkwardness, the social—
- 55:44A sense of despair.
- 55:44Yeah, like that, like sense of like, I don't belong here and I just want to fit in and I don't want anything to go wrong, but things are going wrong. Like that kind of like that, just that like, I feel like the anxiety, it's like it captures that feeling pretty well. But like, yep. Is it horror? Uh, I don't know. Um, but I did like it and I did think it was creepy. I didn't like the kangaroos getting shot.
- 56:05No, I had a real problem with the kangaroos getting murdered on screen.
- 56:08Yeah, I wish that hadn't happened.
- 56:10Because you know it's real, and that's the part that bothered— if I knew it was CGI, then it's like, okay.
- 56:15Yeah, I don't— it's fine. Yeah, I'll see a kangaroo get murdered any day on CGI. But
- 56:20yeah, yeah, I have several video games where I murder kangaroos constantly.
- 56:24You do?
- 56:27Kangaroo Hunter 1 through 6.
- 56:29Oh,
- 56:30all right.
- 56:32No, that sounds right. We should make that.
- 56:34Big game kangaroo hunter.
- 56:37Yeah, our first Fumbler's, uh, video game.
- 56:40When you get— when you get to parts— when you get to part 6, it's like a kaiju-sized kangaroo.
- 56:45Well, that would be part 1. Like, that— that's the only reason you would want to play the game is to fight the kaiju-sized kangaroo.
- 56:52Each game, the kangaroo—
- 56:53What's in its pouch if it's that big?
- 56:55Slightly smaller kangaroo?
- 56:58No, I think it would have to— well,
- 57:00Oh, you get— you fall in there and it's a whole nother world.
- 57:03Whole nother world. Like an underworld of the kangaroo
- 57:06world. Or it's like, um, Australia. You fall in there because of course it like put Australia in its pouch after it escaped.
- 57:16Yeah.
- 57:17So yeah, I thought it was good. I liked it. Just not a horror movie, I'd say. So it was kind of a shame. Not necessarily a shame because I'm glad I watched it, but it's like, didn't really fit with—
- 57:25it just didn't fit the trick-or-treat. Right? We got something that is good money, but not what we wanted. Not enough money to buy a candy.
- 57:35Yeah, they gave me a blooming onion.
- 57:37God damn it! Well, could you imagine if you got a blue?
- 57:40They just dropped it in my bag. Like that's the thing. I'd been happy to get a blooming onion, but if they just like dropped it in my bag and it just was loose, then that's in that
- 57:47clear clamshell
- 57:48that you get from carryout. It pops open immediately. Just starts spilling all over.
- 57:54It just makes me make sauce is spilling all over the place. You're like ah.
- 57:57Yeah, but I'm still like picking at it as I walk home in my bag.
- 58:00How could you not? Well, we know what we thought. Well, on December 30th, 2011, just ended the year on the high note, Animax-3 had this to say. Brilliant. I only saw this film recently, but it brought back all kinds of memories of my year in Australia. Parentheses 1970 to 1971, when I worked in Darwin as a storeman and Cobram, a small town in Victoria where I picked fruit.
- 58:38Okay.
- 58:39I both enjoyed and hated these experiences. The alcohol culture was dominant, as in the film, and in Darwin I was invited to a pig shoot. Unlike the film's hero in the kangaroo hunt, I declined. I returned to Australia permanently in 1977 and worked professionally till my retirement in capital cities and in one large provincial center. The contrast to my earlier experiences, which were similar to those faced by John Grant, could not be greater. I think this could be the best Australian film I have ever seen.
- 59:18Wow.
- 59:206 found it helpful, 3 not so much. 10 out of 10.
- 59:25It might be the best Australian film. I don't really know that many.
- 59:28I don't know, we've watched 2 now and one's not really an Australian movie, it's more of like an American-Australian movie.
- 59:34Yep, true.
- 59:37And, and that was, um, Wake and Fright.
- 59:40There's nothing American about this movie. But not to be outdone, on May 19th, 2013 Ironman817 had this to say.
- 59:50Oh, okay.
- 59:51Ugly behavior with no point or story.
- 59:55Oh.
- 59:56I cannot believe people see any value at all in this film. Men behaving badly is the formula for a lot of films, especially comedies, and here it is a drama. I found myself watching a collection of lazy good-for-nothings drink, gamble, fight, and murder animals. By the end, I was hoping that all the characters would not produce progeny.
- 1:00:20They probably won't.
- 1:00:23No, there's only one woman in the town, I think. I felt like I needed a shower to wash off their stench. Where is the story? What is it about? Is there a moment I will cherish? A great idea? A great line of dialogue? Give me something, but it does not. People may think it has something to do with the corruption of intellectuals by their exposure to primitive men, but the lead character, for all his learning, is a bit of a drunk and a failure, and he only needs a shove to fall in the pit. Most people just need a shove to fall into the pit.
- 1:01:02That's all it takes. That's the scary part about the pits.
- 1:01:05That's the point of the movie.
- 1:01:06There's a pit and I'm standing next to it and someone just walks over and shoves me. Odds are I'm falling in the pit. Yeah, that's the thing.
- 1:01:11I might have a good low center of gravity, but a good shove's gonna send me flying.
- 1:01:16If I, if I even brace myself, you're right. Like, I'm not— I'm— there's like a good chance I'm going in there.
- 1:01:21Yeah. Somehow I suspect he will return to this group of frat boys. His willingness to slaughter defenseless animals for the joy of killing is proof that he harbors inner demons and is as disturbed as his vile comrades. That's the point of the movie, isn't it?
- 1:01:40He's describing the theme.
- 1:01:42That's the movie.
- 1:01:43The thing that he was like, there's no point to, and he just described it.
- 1:01:47Yeah. Men like this eventually murder.
- 1:01:51Okay.
- 1:01:52That's a— that's
- 1:01:54a—
- 1:01:55the gang in Reservoir Dogs was more appealing than this bunch.
- 1:01:59Sure. Okay.
- 1:02:01Okay.
- 1:02:0239 found—
- 1:02:04That's the last sentence.
- 1:02:0633, not so much. 1 out of 10.
- 1:02:09It's ending on that note. All right, sure.
- 1:02:11I like how your critique is a complete understanding of what you just watched after saying, I don't get it.
- 1:02:18Yeah, you didn't get it, and then you'd proceed to explain the deep philosophical meanings of the film.
- 1:02:23Oh well, Iron Man.
- 1:02:26Maybe this person just has a higher, like, um, you know, like, uh, hopefulness of mankind. Like, there's no way anybody should— would do this, or, you know. Shoot. All right, so hire more.
- 1:02:38One Seven's got a lot to learn about mankind.
- 1:02:41Yeah, hire, hire more moral fiber, this Iron Man guy.
- 1:02:44Mm-hmm.
- 1:02:45That's why they call him Iron Man. It's iron resolve.
- 1:02:49Iron resolve.
- 1:02:51Um, let's see, top, uh, according to AI overview, top-ranked Australian films.
- 1:02:57Okay.
- 1:02:57Um, based on box office success or critical acclaim, so
- 1:03:01It could be either. All
- 1:03:02right, either one. Yes.
- 1:03:03Um, highest grossing movies are Crocodile Dundee from 1986 and Australia from 2008.
- 1:03:09I knew that was gonna be on there.
- 1:03:10Uh, critical favorites are often cited as Walkabout from 1971,
- 1:03:15uh-huh,
- 1:03:16uh, Picnic at Hanging Rock, uh, Goliath, and Mad Max: Fury Road.
- 1:03:23Oh, Mad Max, of course.
- 1:03:25Yeah, those The Mad Max movies are my favorite Australian movies.
- 1:03:29Uh, and then, uh, these are our top grossing Australian films at the Australian box office. Crocodile Dundee in Australia 1 and 2. Uh, and what is definitely gonna be my favorite Australian movie, uh, Babe.
- 1:03:44Oh, it's Pig in the City.
- 1:03:46Yeah, no, just the first one, not Pig in the City.
- 1:03:48Pig in the City is good too.
- 1:03:50Wait, Pig in the City is the Australian one though.
- 1:03:53Well, they're both Australian.
- 1:03:54Yeah,
- 1:03:55they are.
- 1:03:55Yeah,
- 1:03:56apparently so.
- 1:03:57Oh, really?
- 1:03:58They're both directed by George Miller.
- 1:03:59I thought only the second one was. I could be wrong.
- 1:04:01Um,
- 1:04:03at least the second one is for sure.
- 1:04:04Happy Feet's number 4.
- 1:04:06Oh, I don't like that movie.
- 1:04:08Wow, sad feet.
- 1:04:11Yeah.
- 1:04:14What's number 5?
- 1:04:16Oh, uh, Lion.
- 1:04:19Oh, never heard of it.
- 1:04:21You know what my recent favorite Australian movies are? Hmm. One was on the list, Talk to Me.
- 1:04:28Okay.
- 1:04:29A great Australian horror film. And then the other one is also by the same director as another Australian horror film, Bring Her Back.
- 1:04:39I haven't watched that yet. It's on Max, I think.
- 1:04:42Both are amazing. Both of them.
- 1:04:44I think they're both on Max. Terry, you sold me. I'm gonna watch them.
- 1:04:47You should watch that. Those 2 would be great Halloween picks. Great Halloween picks. Maybe they'll be making the wheel now that I mentioned them.
- 1:04:54Well, now I put them in the list here.
- 1:04:56I think there's a cutoff for things.
- 1:04:59I really, you know, I wonder. It's kind of an international film, but like Triple X is kind of—
- 1:05:05Okay. Yeah. So we've done everything we could do here.
- 1:05:11Yes. We have a few things left to do. This is the 3rd week.
- 1:05:15Oh yes, yes.
- 1:05:17We gotta pick the wheel, and we did. We care— we cult— we cultivated our list. We grew it. We grew a seed. We coalesced. We collated as well. We did all sorts of things for this list. We came up with all the movies that were mentioned this last month. We put— we each chose one. We put it on the wheel. Keith, you chose
- 1:05:39Weekend at Bernie's.
- 1:05:40Terry, you chose—
- 1:05:42Talk to Me.
- 1:05:43Was just mentioned like minutes ago. So yeah, maybe I feel like, did I hear that right? Just hit back 30 like twice and you'll hear it.
- 1:05:51That's right.
- 1:05:52And I'm choosing Sky High, which not the one with the superhero high school with Tim Allen or whatever.
- 1:06:01No, he's not in that. He's at the last—
- 1:06:04Kurt Russell, that's what it is.
- 1:06:06Tim Allen.
- 1:06:08Whatever. I'm choosing the Japanese one with murders and the heart stealing and a ghost helping solve the crime. It
- 1:06:16sounds Japanese remake. Japanese remake of Sky High. They added some things,
- 1:06:21added something. There's some liberties.
- 1:06:24And they added Tim Allen.
- 1:06:25They added Tim Allen.
- 1:06:26That would be awesome. A Japanese horror movie with Tim Allen.
- 1:06:29And it's Tim Allen. He'd be like, I, I'm not going to learn anything about your culture. So
- 1:06:35no.
- 1:06:36You're all weird to me.
- 1:06:38Uh-huh. Yeah, I would, I would kind of watch that though. I think that would be interesting.
- 1:06:42The classic fish out of water, uh, horror.
- 1:06:45Yeah, fish out of water, but he's like, yeah, in a horror movie. That would be awesome.
- 1:06:49That would be awesome. All right, so I put those things on the wheel and I spin again and I doubled them up a couple times. And so we got a 1 in 3 chance of getting our movie selected. You guys ready for this?
- 1:07:01I'm so ready. And time to get my streak back.
- 1:07:03Well, time to keep my streak going. Here we go.
- 1:07:17No,
- 1:07:18it is Weekend at Bernie's. Heath is back in the win column.
- 1:07:25Wow, it's been a long time coming.
- 1:07:29And of all
- 1:07:29the movies, like one month. He had it one month, lost it.
- 1:07:36Now he's back.
- 1:07:36Nice back. Got that groove. Weekend at Bernie's.
- 1:07:40I mean, you know, it technically still, uh, it sticks with, uh, a bit of like the spooky time. Yeah, yeah, it's got a corpse.
- 1:07:50I guess that's true.
- 1:07:52Corpses are spooky.
- 1:07:54Inherently, I would agree. Corpses are just kind of scary.
- 1:07:56Well, we did it. We got through our 3 weeks of trick-or-treat. And now the ultimate treat is Weekend at Bernie's for the wheel.
- 1:08:05That's true. And you know what's great news? My local library has 4 copies.
- 1:08:09What? Your local library is just the video rental store?
- 1:08:144 copies is 3, if not 4, more than expected.
- 1:08:19And guess how many are available for checking out?
- 1:08:22All 4.
- 1:08:24All four. It's all four.
- 1:08:28They're just sitting on Weekend at Bernie's.
- 1:08:30Why do they have so many? Why?
- 1:08:33They can clearly trim that down a little bit, but no.
- 1:08:37Send them an email after that.
- 1:08:38There's full generations of this planet that they have no idea what Weekend at Bernie's is.
- 1:08:44Full generations. Several. At least three.
- 1:08:46Several of them. Yeah.
- 1:08:48Yeah. And then there's many. past generations who will never know.
- 1:08:51Oh, can you imagine people in like the 1500s? They'll never know what Weekend at Bernie's is. Yeah.
- 1:08:58Can you imagine showing them that? The first film they ever seen, that's the first film you show them is Weekend at Bernie's.
- 1:09:06You go back in time to the Dark Ages, literal Dark Ages, and you're like, all right, you primitive fucks, here's a DVD I'm gonna show
- 1:09:17Arthur and his court are sitting there, Merlin's watching, stroking
- 1:09:20his beard. Weekend at Bernie's, and you're blowing their mind. Moving Pictures and Dead Man Dancing.
- 1:09:26And there's a, there's a lot of, like, so many things they would not understand. Office work, you know, like doing business, polishing shirts.
- 1:09:37I mean, it really would, I mean, it would just ruin society forever. I mean,
- 1:09:40a vehicle. There's lots of things that would they wouldn't get, let alone the moving pictures.
- 1:09:45Why is the guy wearing sunglasses all the time?
- 1:09:48What are sunglasses?
- 1:09:49Oh yeah.
- 1:09:50Why is this man's hair curly, right? They just
- 1:09:54wouldn't understand these things.
- 1:09:57It was the '80s. You wouldn't get it, primitive people.
- 1:09:59You wouldn't understand. It's a— it's an '80s thing, guys. Yeah.
- 1:10:02Well, I guess that leaves us with nothing to do other than end this the way we end Everything.
- 1:10:09Yes, indeed.
- 1:10:34Words in this trailer?
- 1:10:35No, this is all music and vivid imagery. That was pleasant.
- 1:10:41Thanks for listening to Fumbling Through Film. New episodes drop every Thursday. Got feedback or questions? Email us at fumblingthroughfilm@gmail.com. Follow us on Bluesky at Film Fumblers and on Instagram at film.fumblers. You can also follow Keith on Instagram at kg33lives and Dad's Cards Daily. Terry's on Letterboxd at Terry2099, and Derek's on social media at Derek, the number 9 and the word 9. All original music is produced by the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry. Hit him up for the bangers. See you next week as we keep on fumbling.