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- 0:03Melanie Cole, MS (Host): Welcome to Flourish, a Prisma Health podcast.
- 0:07I'm Melanie Cole.
- 0:08And today, we're talking about childhood cancer and health disparities.
- 0:13Joining me is Dr.
- 0:14Anna Hoppman.
- 0:15She's a pediatric hematologist-oncologist at Prisma Health.
- 0:19Dr.
- 0:20Hoppman, thank you so much for joining us today.
- 0:23As we talk about this topic, which is not always easy to talk about
- 0:28or hear about, it's every parent's worst nightmare, how is childhood
- 0:32cancer different from adult cancer?
- 0:35And what should South Carolina families understand about that difference?
- 0:40Dr. Anna Hoppman:
- 0:40Thank you, Melanie.
- 0:41I'm happy to be here today.
- 0:43One of the main differences between childhood cancer and adult-onset
- 0:47cancers is that you cannot screen for or prevent childhood cancers.
- 0:53We think about screenings for adult-onset cancers, for example, mammography for
- 0:58breast cancer or colonoscopy for colon cancer, but there are no known ways to
- 1:03screen for or prevent cancer in children.
- 1:07Melanie Cole, MS: That's an interesting distinction.
- 1:09Thank you for clarifying that.
- 1:11Now, what kinds of cancers are we talking about?
- 1:14Dr. Anna Hoppman:
- 1:14The most common types of cancers in children are leukemias,
- 1:18lymphomas, and brain tumors.
- 1:21Melanie Cole, MS: Tell us a little bit about survival rates for childhood cancer.
- 1:24Are they improving?
- 1:26And if so, what factors are we looking at that could be driving that progress?
- 1:31Dr. Anna Hoppman:
- 1:31Thankfully, we've seen tremendous improvement in childhood
- 1:34cancer survival over time.
- 1:36When you look back, you know, 50, 60 years ago, there was a very dismal
- 1:41prognosis for childhood cancers and many children did not survive.
- 1:46But through incremental improvements in our treatments and the ways we support
- 1:51children during cancer treatments, those cure rates have risen dramatically.
- 1:56For some of the most common types of cancers, including acute
- 2:00lymphoblastic leukemia, the cure rate is over 90% today, and we're
- 2:05very grateful for those advancements.
- 2:08Melanie Cole, MS: That's such a hopeful statistic, Dr.
- 2:11Hoppman.
- 2:11Thank you for sharing that.
- 2:13Now, do children in South Carolina experience disparities in cancer outcomes?
- 2:18And what are some of the biggest reasons behind those gaps?
- 2:21Explain a little bit about what disparities mean and
- 2:25why there are those gaps.
- 2:28Dr. Anna Hoppman:
- 2:28Disparities means differences.
- 2:30So, it could be differences in the number of cancer cases, differences in
- 2:35the survival over time, or differences in access to certain resources or care.
- 2:42In South Carolina and in the United States as a whole, there's a higher
- 2:47incidence of cancer in non-Hispanic White children, meaning they're more
- 2:52likely to have childhood cancer.
- 2:55But there are lower survival rates among non-Hispanic, Black children,
- 2:59meaning if they get childhood cancer, they have lower odds of surviving
- 3:04compared to other races and ethnicities
- 3:07Melanie Cole, MS: Well, Dr.
- 3:08Hoppman, based on these disparities or differences, how do those factors,
- 3:13like where a family lives, their income, or access to transportation,
- 3:17impact a child's ability to receive that timely, high-quality cancer care?
- 3:22Dr. Anna Hoppman:
- 3:22So, cancer care, depending on the type of cancer, can be a long treatment journey,
- 3:28kind of ranging from months to years.
- 3:31For acute lymphoblastic leukemia, one of our most common types of cancer, the
- 3:35treatment is around two and a half years.
- 3:38And so when families face challenges with things like transportation,
- 3:44with their insurance continuity, it places this repetitive burden on
- 3:48the patient and the family over time because the treatment is so long.
- 3:53And it can make it difficult to get the treatment and services they need.
- 3:57Melanie Cole, MS: While you're talking about that then, can you
- 3:59expand on some of those challenges that families and caregivers face?
- 4:03So, you mentioned transportation and certainly insurance and finances
- 4:09and dealing with all the red tape of insurance, that is just a
- 4:12dizzying situation for families.
- 4:15But when we think of medically and emotionally—and medically, even
- 4:20understanding what you're saying, what the doctors are saying, what
- 4:24the treatment involves, what the side effects and complications could be, and
- 4:29then the emotional toll that it's going to take on the family, the child, the
- 4:34parents, any outside family community.
- 4:37I mean, it can really spread out pretty far and wide when a
- 4:40child is suffering from cancer.
- 4:42So, speak about what you see, Dr.
- 4:45Hoppman, and really how you help families in that way.
- 4:50Dr. Anna Hoppman:
- 4:50I think one of the things that makes our field very gratifying to work in,
- 4:54though it can be challenging at times or emotionally challenging for us even
- 5:00as the clinicians, one of the most gratifying things is the resilience of
- 5:05the patients and families that amidst this diagnosis or amidst the challenges with
- 5:11treatment, that they're very resilient.
- 5:14That the kids are bright and cheerful and playing games in our clinic even when we
- 5:18can tell that they don't feel their best.
- 5:21And I think it's really that resiliency of the family and the people around
- 5:24the family and the neighborhood and the community that lift our patients and
- 5:28families up to get them through these long durations of cancer treatment and allows
- 5:34them to get the medical care they need.
- 5:36Melanie Cole, MS: Well, it certainly is community-wide and felt by the friends
- 5:42and the schools and everybody when a child is going through these kinds
- 5:46of treatment, which can be brutal.
- 5:49So, South Carolina's developing a comprehensive pediatric cancer plan.
- 5:53What does that mean, Dr.
- 5:55Hoppman?
- 5:56And how could it improve care for children across the state?
- 6:00Dr. Anna Hoppman:
- 6:00When you look around the United States, all states and territories develop
- 6:04comprehensive cancer control plans.
- 6:07And it's a roadmap for that state to look at their cancer statistics
- 6:12and see where things are going well, what they can improve over
- 6:15time to make things even better.
- 6:18But what we don't like about this is that only about 30% of plans include
- 6:22children with a dedicated section.
- 6:25We started talking to public health leaders and cancer coalition members in
- 6:29the state of South Carolina, and everybody was united in this vision that we should
- 6:34elevate the issues of children with cancer and their families to the highest level in
- 6:39South Carolina and give them a dedicated section in our comprehensive cancer plan.
- 6:45For us, the comprehensive cancer plan will have four areas that we'll
- 6:50focus on over a five-year period.
- 6:53They include pediatric cancer awareness, quality care, ensuring we have all the
- 6:59needed services and support right here in South Carolina, educational support
- 7:05to make sure our patients, who are also students, many of them in elementary,
- 7:09middle, and high school, have the support they need to be in the classroom when it's
- 7:14safe or remote learning during treatment.
- 7:17And the final section of the cancer plan is survivorship to maintain support for
- 7:22our patients and families in that long period of survivorship after pediatric
- 7:27cancer treatment and to make sure they have the support they need, both medically
- 7:32and in terms of their vocational support.
- 7:35That if they have some late effects or challenges after cancer treatment, that we
- 7:41help them to find resources for vocational support in addition to their medical care
- 7:46Melanie Cole, MS: What a great initiative that is.
- 7:48Dr.
- 7:49Hoppman, thank you for sharing that with us.
- 7:52And as we get ready to wrap up, what kinds of experiences, challenges, or ideas do
- 7:56you think, and in your vast experience, would be most helpful for parents and
- 8:01caregivers to share as we build this plan?
- 8:05What would you like to hear from them?
- 8:07Dr. Anna Hoppman:
- 8:07The state plan is for them and is informed by them.
- 8:11You know, we care for these patients every day and their families, and
- 8:14we listen to them, to what's going well, to what can be improved.
- 8:19And we have several parent advocates on our state task force
- 8:23to help make sure that their opinions are reflected in the plan.
- 8:26As we launch the plan for South Carolina, we want parents
- 8:30to be engaged and involved.
- 8:32We would love to hear from parents that want to join our state work
- 8:35group or help with implementing the plan over the five-year cycle.
- 8:39It's going to take a lot of volunteers and be a real team
- 8:42effort to make the plan a reality.
- 8:45Melanie Cole, MS: Dr.
- 8:45Hoppman, you've given us so much great information and things to think about.
- 8:50As a final thought, please tell us about your team and the people that you work
- 8:55with at Prisma Health, because really, as we were saying before, and it takes
- 8:59the community and caregivers, but it also takes this multidisciplinary,
- 9:04very caring, comprehensive team.
- 9:07Dr. Anna Hoppman:
- 9:07I'm part of a wonderful team of doctors, advanced practice providers,
- 9:12nursing, pharmacists, social work, and our psychosocial care team.
- 9:18And we couldn't do it without any one of these members.
- 9:21They support our patients from the time they check into the clinic, take their
- 9:25vital signs, come back to the clinic room.
- 9:28They give them things to eat, things to do, support their mental health needs.
- 9:34And without them, it would be very difficult to provide the medical
- 9:37care we provide to treat cancer.
- 9:39With the aspects of the team, we're able to support the whole patient and family
- 9:43to get them through treatment and beyond.
- 9:45Melanie Cole, MS: What a great way to end and such important points that you made.
- 9:49Thank you again for joining us and sharing your incredible expertise
- 9:54for listeners on this topic.
- 9:56And to hear more podcasts from our experts, please visit our website
- 9:59at prismahealth.org/podcast.
- 10:02I'm Melanie Cole.
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