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Best of Chuck & Buck 12-15 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Class lazy gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen, behold in producing six
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  Speaker 1: one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former high school basketball
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  Speaker 1: stand What in the hell.
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  Speaker 2: Does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: Don't jumped any conclusions.
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  Speaker 4: Not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 5: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to.
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  Speaker 6: Pluto, getting Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just openly
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  Speaker 6: admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
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  Speaker 4: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 5: Five seven guard and a former college water polo and
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  Speaker 5: national champion.
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  Speaker 7: There's a lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 5: Ashley Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: What do you buy to lay? Look?
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  Speaker 5: Casino resort and quill see the Greek Draft King sports
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  Speaker 5: book where the action never stopped.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, welcome in. It is a Monday. Great
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  Speaker 4: to have you with us. I hope you had a
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  Speaker 4: good weekend. Had some nice weather this weekend, which was
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  Speaker 4: a nice little change up from all the rain that
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  Speaker 4: has been descending upon us. But the rain is back
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  Speaker 4: here this morning. Hopefully we don't have many further messes
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  Speaker 4: that we've had here for the last week or so.
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  Speaker 4: Good to have you with us here on the show.
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  Speaker 4: My name is Chuck Powell. Ashley Ryan is here, so
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  Speaker 4: is former Mariner Bucky jacobsitting here on this Monday. So
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  Speaker 4: much planned for you between now and ten o'clock. You
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  Speaker 4: know how we do it on Mondays. We're pretty thorough now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we get dive into it. We dive deep, yeah, really deep.
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  Speaker 7: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a lot to dive into.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll say I think that I'm in a good
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  Speaker 4: shape for it. I gave myself a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: an early Christmas present. I got myself a coffee maker,
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  Speaker 4: and I kind of overdid it in the last twenty
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  Speaker 4: four hours.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like my thirty eighth cup. Yeah, so I'm kind
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  Speaker 3: of jittery.
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  Speaker 7: Have you slept in the last several days or you
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  Speaker 7: just coffee?
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  Speaker 4: No, just straight coffee. I got one of them ivy attachments.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, well fancy new ones. Yeah fancy hadn't heard.
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  Speaker 2: Of that one.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, queasino. I just smoked my coffee. I don't inject it.
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  Speaker 3: That's one way to do it.
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  Speaker 8: Actually, just mainlines it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, in the form of cherry coke zero right.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, uh she just drinks cherry cokes.
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  Speaker 9: I do drink about two coffees a week now. Oh,
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  Speaker 9: I'm turning into a real adult.
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  Speaker 8: A real coffee that you're drinking.
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  Speaker 7: No, probably not.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably souped up with a bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 7: It's a brown sugar, shaking oat milk spread.
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  Speaker 8: That's not that's not a coffee.
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  Speaker 6: But I enjoyed those types of It's got a coffee
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  Speaker 6: flavor kinda.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, sometimes that's too much. I'm like, I need more
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  Speaker 7: brown sugar.
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  Speaker 8: Do you an old school one or did you get
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  Speaker 8: one with I just got to drip one. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 8: got to drip one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We've had the pod thing, and then lately I've just
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  Speaker 4: been using some just cheap old thing just to get
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  Speaker 4: me through. And I'm like, you know what I missed,
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  Speaker 4: Like the big, big brew smell of coffee, just like
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  Speaker 4: lingering in the air.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I just ran out and got myself an early
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  Speaker 3: Christmas present.
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  Speaker 6: Good for you, And then you just decided screw it.
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  Speaker 6: I'll just drink coffee all night last night, this morning,
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  Speaker 6: this morning.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a little stronger.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I really have only had what six cups,
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  Speaker 4: but it's just a little stronger, yeah than what I normally.
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  Speaker 6: When you say that, the word only needs to be
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  Speaker 6: put in front of it. I mean it's six three am.
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  Speaker 4: Just two this morning, just too this morning, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: sixth since I bought it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 4: we've got a lot to discuss here today. Seahawks went
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  Speaker 4: over the Colts yesterday eighteen to sixteen in a game
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  Speaker 4: that I certainly did not expect. Jason Myers kicks six
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  Speaker 4: six field goals in the game, and the Hawks proved
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  Speaker 4: to eleven and three on the season, which is really
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  Speaker 4: all that matters as they get ready for the biggest
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  Speaker 4: game of the year here in just a few days.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think there are just three monster takeaways
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  Speaker 4: from this game, and we'll try to hit all of
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  Speaker 4: those three monster takeaways here in our first segment this morning.
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  Speaker 4: And it starts first and foremost with the biggest story
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  Speaker 4: this weekend in the National Football League, and that is
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  Speaker 4: the return to Philip Rivers.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously I.
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  Speaker 4: Went all in on how on earth can he succeed
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  Speaker 4: being gone for five years?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you saw it. He was on time, he was There.
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  Speaker 4: Was one incident where he kind of looked like he
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  Speaker 4: slipped on the ice.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Other than that, he didn't get overly harassed. He got
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  Speaker 4: rid of the football. He showed us how you can
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  Speaker 4: sit on a sideline for five years and then come
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  Speaker 4: out and be a functional quarterback in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see it coming. I made that very clear
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  Speaker 4: all last week. But certainly he proved me wrong. And
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  Speaker 4: as coach said, maybe he's the only one that could have.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but all the credit in the world
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  Speaker 4: to him. He almost guided the Indianapolis Colts to a
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  Speaker 4: road win over arguably the best defense in the National
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  Speaker 4: Football League. I didn't give him a chance. I was
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  Speaker 4: dead wrong. Good for you, Philip Rivers, And as I
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  Speaker 4: said last week, I'm happy that he was. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we came away with a win. We got the win,
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  Speaker 4: but it was a lot more interesting of a game
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  Speaker 4: because Philip Rivers was functional, and the week in the
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  Speaker 4: National Football the NFL is a lot more interesting now
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  Speaker 4: that he's back, and it was already a ten out
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  Speaker 4: of ten and interesting.
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  Speaker 3: So I give him all the credit in the world.
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  Speaker 4: He held his own yesterday, and I didn't think that
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  Speaker 4: he would.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he held his own. I mean, he
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  Speaker 6: didn't do anything spectacular.
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  Speaker 2: He was.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he wasn't trying to push the ball down
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  Speaker 6: the field. There was one of the early passes that
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  Speaker 6: was outside that was kind of fluttering and you're like, ooh,
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  Speaker 6: that shot put delivery that he's always had looked at
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  Speaker 6: a little even more uglier than it did better in
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  Speaker 6: a day, but it still was.
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  Speaker 8: He was effective, He was on time.
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  Speaker 6: They had a game plan that was like I guess
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  Speaker 6: you know, he had said before the game, I'm not
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  Speaker 6: expect I can't throw the wall sixty yards anymore. Well,
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  Speaker 6: I don't even know if sure if you throw forty yards,
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  Speaker 6: probably can on the video. Yeah, yeah, but he's not
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  Speaker 6: going to He's not gonna be as accurate. Whereas the
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  Speaker 6: little dump offs the game plan that we figured they
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  Speaker 6: would try to implement, Yes that he did that, and
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  Speaker 6: he did it very well.
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  Speaker 8: He was a game manager.
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  Speaker 6: I mean there was, you know, coming down the end
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  Speaker 6: when they end up kicking the field goal to take
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  Speaker 6: the lead before giving the lead back with fifty seconds
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  Speaker 6: or whatever was left that when they ran it and
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  Speaker 6: gave him a sixty some yard field goal, that was
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  Speaker 6: one where I think the five years ago or majority
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  Speaker 6: of his seventeen year career.
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  Speaker 8: You're trying to ice the game there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah you're behind, you need a field goal, but you're
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  Speaker 6: trying to get a first down and end this with
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  Speaker 6: the field goal. You're kicking it with three seconds left,
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  Speaker 6: and instead they ran it just get a little bit closer.
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  Speaker 8: That was a.
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  Speaker 6: Situation where I think they maybe I'll bet their second
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  Speaker 6: guess in it right now because of the way that
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  Speaker 6: it ended up.
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  Speaker 8: But I think that that.
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  Speaker 3: Was because the way Mike McDonald used his timeouts.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was very good.
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  Speaker 4: Five years ago you'd be like, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: But in today's game, being able to preserve some clock
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  Speaker 4: because odds are you're going to get the ball at
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  Speaker 4: minimum the thirty yard line and you have a kicker
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  Speaker 4: that can kick from sixty five, I think, yeah, then
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  Speaker 4: you preserve the clock just in case you need it.
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  Speaker 4: Needed a heck of a job.
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  Speaker 6: Great job by him and his crew they come up
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  Speaker 6: with those and to convince him to go ahead and
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  Speaker 6: do that, sell those you know, spend those timeouts there,
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  Speaker 6: because yeah, you gave yourself a chance.
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  Speaker 8: It was.
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  Speaker 6: It was an interesting game. It was one where I
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  Speaker 6: mean Philip Rivers didn't go out there and light it up.
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  Speaker 6: But he managed the game like a veteran. Like I
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  Speaker 6: thought maybe a veteran could do. It was going to
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  Speaker 6: be uphill sledding against that defense. But the Indianabas Colts,
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  Speaker 6: there's a they're scuffling now. Is a four in a
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  Speaker 6: row and five out of six that they've lost. But
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  Speaker 6: that's a good team. I mean, that's a team. They
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  Speaker 6: have a lot of talent on the defensive side. Their
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  Speaker 6: offensive line, didn't They protected Philip Rivers enough to keep
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  Speaker 6: the Seahawks off of them for the most part, so
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  Speaker 6: that he could dank and dunk and find those guys.
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  Speaker 6: And then he made a couple of really good throws.
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  Speaker 6: The back shoulder throw that led them down to take
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  Speaker 6: the lead late. That was a big throw and a
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  Speaker 6: great catch. I mean, it was impressive considering how where
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  Speaker 6: he's been. I mean he was on the couch, you know,
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  Speaker 6: basically watching it with his grandkid last week and then
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  Speaker 6: now all of a sudden he's in there. To me,
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  Speaker 6: the biggest age thing was him getting up off the
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  Speaker 6: ground and I feel you on that, Philip Rivers. That's
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  Speaker 6: where he looked the oldest is when he would have
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  Speaker 6: to try to get up it's just not as easy
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  Speaker 6: as it used to do.
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  Speaker 4: I've just seen so many young I practice every week
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  Speaker 4: quarterbacks just get overwhelmed by this sport. And I mean
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  Speaker 4: I mentioned this several times last week. Matthew Stafford looked
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  Speaker 4: confused when he faced the Mike McDonald defense not long ago,
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  Speaker 4: and he might be the best player in the world
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  Speaker 4: right now, and so, I mean, I just felt I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Hughes said something very interesting on Friday which stuck with
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  Speaker 4: me all week and long. I hope he's It was
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  Speaker 4: sort of a suggestion. I hope he's not successful. I
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  Speaker 4: don't want him to look good playing quarterback because that
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  Speaker 4: might suggest that it's not nearly as difficult as.
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  Speaker 8: It truly is, as it was for me my whole career.
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  Speaker 3: Or for anybody.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think that he necessarily made the quarterback
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  Speaker 4: position look easy. I didn't come away with that thinking, oh, man,
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  Speaker 4: Hugh Millen, why does he think that.
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  Speaker 8: This is such a difficult thing to do?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, if anyone could go in and do that, a.
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  Speaker 4: Forty four year old can get off the couch after
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  Speaker 4: five years and complete a few passes, then why these
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  Speaker 4: quarterbacks make it look harder?
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  Speaker 8: Than it is.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't come away with that, but I
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  Speaker 4: will say this, he sort of gave you a textbook
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  Speaker 4: like those that really struggle at it. Maybe you're making
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  Speaker 4: it too difficult because he was functional, Yes, five years removed,
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  Speaker 4: and you're right, he didn't test the boundaries. They are
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  Speaker 4: the limits of quarterback play. It wasn't anything pretty. But
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  Speaker 4: for somebody that practiced twice this week, hasn't taken a
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  Speaker 4: hit in five years, has been throwing when he does
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  Speaker 4: throw to high schoolers, you know, for the last five years,
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  Speaker 4: for him to come in there and be functional, I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a damn sports miracle. And yet I didn't
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  Speaker 4: think that he was going to pull that off, and
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  Speaker 4: he did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely did.
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  Speaker 7: I think functional is the right word to describe it.
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  Speaker 9: He went out there and he did the job with
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  Speaker 9: the game plan that they had considering their starting quarterback
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  Speaker 9: was out, and he executed it well. There was definitely
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  Speaker 9: certain things you're looking at that you realize, well, this
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  Speaker 9: isn't working because you've had two or three practices. You know,
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  Speaker 9: you're missing receiver and floating balls over their head, things
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  Speaker 9: like that that it's just the timing. They don't have
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  Speaker 9: that and you wouldn't expect them to have that. And
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  Speaker 9: I think I definitely thought going into that he was
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  Speaker 9: just going to get lit up, and you know, and
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  Speaker 9: and the injury concern, I kept saying, put flags on him.
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  Speaker 9: I'm worried he's gonna get hurt. And he didn't, and
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  Speaker 9: he is. He held his own and he did a
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  Speaker 9: good job.
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  Speaker 3: And I was expecting that slip on the ice kind
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  Speaker 3: of play.
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  Speaker 8: I was expecting like seven of those.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah too.
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  Speaker 4: I was expecting at least a couple interceptions and he
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  Speaker 4: really didn't throw any. The only one and that he
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  Speaker 4: threw was at the end of the game, and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you can't even count that, yeah, in desperation moment. So
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  Speaker 4: I give him, I give him a lot of credit
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  Speaker 4: the other person. And I think this is the second
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  Speaker 4: thing that has to be mentioned. And if you only
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  Speaker 4: have one segment to talk about yesterday's game, this is
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  Speaker 4: the second thing that has to be mentioned. Jason Myers
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  Speaker 4: has been unbelievable this year. I mean there's one there
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  Speaker 4: are two guarantees of Pro Bowl from the Seahawks roster,
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  Speaker 4: and they are JSN and Jason Myers. I mean that's
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  Speaker 4: I got guarantee at this point. That guy has been
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  Speaker 4: sensational this year. And I can't tell you how many
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  Speaker 4: times that I've felt this season that we should be
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  Speaker 4: talking more about Jason Myers because he's turned automatic on
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  Speaker 4: us here this season. And obviously Mike McDonald has gone
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  Speaker 4: for it on fourth down fewer than any head coach
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  Speaker 4: in the National Football League, So obviously he feels like
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  Speaker 4: Jason Myers is a guaranteed three points right now, and
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  Speaker 4: he is even with the game on the line, even
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  Speaker 4: the remember how he would succeed on the long field
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  Speaker 4: goals and struggle with the extra points there for a
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  Speaker 4: year and a half or so. I mean, he's just guaranteed,
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  Speaker 4: no matter where you are on the field, even with
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  Speaker 4: fifty you know, with four seconds remaining from fifty six yards,
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  Speaker 4: just as true as can be. So we certainly have
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  Speaker 4: to talk about Jason Myers and the excellence that he's
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  Speaker 4: brought to the kicking game this year.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know for sure.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, typically if you rely on your kicker to
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  Speaker 6: make six field goals, you're probably not going to win
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  Speaker 6: a bunch of games, right you want to finish some
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  Speaker 6: of those drives. But considering that, the recipe that you
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  Speaker 6: were going up against, which is somebody that practiced, you know,
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  Speaker 6: a couple of days, hadn't been doing anything but coaching
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  Speaker 6: high school football for the last five years. They weren't.
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  Speaker 6: So you weren't going against you know, the Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 6: led you know Chiefs that we've watched over the majority
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  Speaker 6: of the last decade. You were going against the team
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  Speaker 6: that you knew maybe twenty points might be all that
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  Speaker 6: it takes, and obviously eighteen was all that it took,
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  Speaker 6: and so you could settle for those those field goals.
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  Speaker 6: Now you're not going to want to do that. That
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  Speaker 6: was not the convincing win that you've been watching for
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  Speaker 6: the better part of the last couple months when they've
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  Speaker 6: gone out there and you basically coming here on Mondey,
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  Speaker 6: we're talking about this is Super Bowl continuing, maybe Super
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  Speaker 6: Bowl favorites, and it's best in the NFC, and even
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  Speaker 6: after a loss against a division foe like the Rams.
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  Speaker 6: So I think that there's obviously room for improvement. But
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  Speaker 6: that's the one area that you don't have to worry
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  Speaker 6: about for sure, and that's a big one. It's a
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  Speaker 6: big one come playoff time. You want to have a
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  Speaker 6: solid kicker that you feel you can run out there.
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  Speaker 6: That last kick that he made probably would have been
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  Speaker 6: good from sixty five, and it definitely would have been
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  Speaker 6: good from sixty.
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  Speaker 9: Well, and you think about the pressure on that last
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  Speaker 9: one too, So just all of it, I mean, any
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  Speaker 9: you know, obviously, especially when your offense isn't getting in
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  Speaker 9: the end zone, any kick, you're going to be dealing
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  Speaker 9: with pressure on it. But for that one, in that moment,
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  Speaker 9: we were at the game, and I know it wasn't silent,
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  Speaker 9: but it felt like everything just kind of stood still
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  Speaker 9: as you're waiting for him to kick that through there,
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  Speaker 9: and it was in the We're on that north end
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  Speaker 9: zone and it was kicking it towards us, and I
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  Speaker 9: just remember like it felt like slow motion watching it
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  Speaker 9: go through the goalposts and think like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 9: And but he the rest of the kicks the rest
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  Speaker 9: of the day, I didn't feel like there was any
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  Speaker 9: pressure watching him.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, Oh, he's going to do this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope I get to Heaven. My guess is
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  Speaker 4: that when I get there, there won't be any kickers.
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  Speaker 3: Probably not. Yeah, that's that's my fields.
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  Speaker 7: No punters.
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  Speaker 3: And yet Jason, I'll let you in the Pearly game.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you've just been that special third thing that
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  Speaker 4: has to be mentioned this morning, and that is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you got to be a little bit concerned about this
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  Speaker 4: offense here in the second half of the season. It
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  Speaker 4: hasn't been nearly as potent and for this team to
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  Speaker 4: have to settle for six field goals against I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the Indianapolis colt is a pretty good team, but you're
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  Speaker 4: not going against the Houston Texans. That's not the Houston
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  Speaker 4: Texans defense out there. Uh, And so there's got to
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: be some concern. There were there were some moments of
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: a little too conservative I felt that play calling from
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak, and when you have to huddle your entire
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: offense on the sideline at one point to you have
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: an all offense meeting in the middle of the game.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Obviously Clint Kubiak's not too happy with where they're at
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: Either.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: You're getting ready for this key stretch. You're getting ready
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: for your biggest three games of the year, and the
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: biggest one's gonna happen in three days, and you better
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: be better offensively than what you have been for.
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: The last month.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: Well, the fact that they I mean, I guess it's
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: working so far. I mean, you find yourself at what
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: eleven and three, and you have your destiny in your
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: own hands coming up this Thursday. And yet, yeah, the
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: inconsistency of it, where against bad teams they now have
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: what four different halves that they've scored thirty points or
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: more and a half. I mean that is like wow,
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: bank bank bank. They can be explosive, and yet then
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: there's times that they don't do anything. And yet they
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: stick to run in the ball. And we heard Pete
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: Carroll for years, we got to run the ball more.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: We're going to run the ball more. Well, the Clint
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: Kubiak does that. They run the ball more than anybody,
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: and yet they're not super efficient. Yesterday was one of
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: the worst. Yeah, and perform you are not going to
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: You're not going to win a bunch of games against
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: playoff caliber teams if you're averaging two yards of carry
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: and still just deciding Nope, we're gonna still run it
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: about a fifty to fifty split here, maybe even a
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: little bit more. You're gonna there's and I don't know
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: for sure if that affects Darnald at times like almost
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: like let him get into a rhythm a little bit
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: when he's passing instead of noe. We got to get
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: back to the run again, you know. We got to
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: keep him honest with the run game. So there's concerns
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: for sure. I'm sure that that Clint Kubiak, while he
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: went to bed happy with a W, was not happy
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: with how the offense looks right now.
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, especially in that first half. Just I mean they looked.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Especially the first half three weeks in a row.
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: Yes, exactly what I was as we were watching it.
• 17:47
  Speaker 9: I'm thinking like, oh my gosh, this is just like
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: last week. But then I would tell myself, well, maybe
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: they're going to come out and have a great third quarter,
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: but you got to have more than one good quarter
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: of football.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Do you do when you have to face the top
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: competition And look, you beat a Phillip Rivers led Colts
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: team at home on the strength of six for six
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: from your kicker, but you're facing the Rams, the Panthers
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: who are buying for a title in Carolina and then
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: San Francisco.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: You gotta play your best.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: If you're gonna pull this off, you got to play
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: your best, and we have not seen them play their
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: best since what Commanders. I mean, they blew away the
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Cardinals forty four to twenty two, but I think it's
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: been since that command Well, they were good against the Rams,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: but they lost. I think that they haven't played a
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: complete game since the Washington Commanders. And that's saying something
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: because they've won what six of their last seven games.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: But we'll have time today to talk about all of it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: So let's find out what is on tap for today's show.
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: What's on TEP?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: What's untep? All right?
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Seahawks eighteen Colts sixteen Monday Morning quarterback Today. Hugh Millen
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: will join us at eight o'clock. Mike Homern will join
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: us at nine o'clock. So two hours of just full
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: throttle analysis from two of the best in the business.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: As we look forward to that.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Also, Greg Bell will be with us today at seven
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: o five to give us the latest and greatest in
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: covering the Hawks. He's fresh back from the Army Navy
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: game and having covered the Hawks game yesterday. The National
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Football League, the biggest stories yesterday revolved around injuries. Patrick
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs were eliminated from the
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: playoffs yesterday, and to add injury to insult Patrick Mahomes
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: with less than two minutes to go in the game,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: ended up tearing his ACL. Was helped off of the
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: field and he is out for the rest of the
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: season and part of next season. Micah Parsons also torn
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: ACL was removed from the Packers game, so he's lost
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: for the rest of the year for the Green Bay Packers.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: And DeVante Adams for the Rams went down late as
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: well in their game against the Detroit Lions. It's a
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: hamstring issue, not nearly as serious as the other two,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: but obviously when you're facing the Rams this week, it'll
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: be very interesting to see if the Rams can get
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: him ready to play by Thursday night. We will start
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: the countdown to that game tonight. There's no reason to
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: wait around. We'll start it today. I should say Rams
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: at Seahawks this Thursday. To this point, the game of
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: the year, the week in the National Football League will
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: wrap up tonight. It'll be the Dolphins at the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: A Monday night football frostbrewed corselight, choose chill Monday.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Counting you down to this game. At five point fifteen.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: You double one the LA Bulls thirty eight to ten
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: over Boise State Saturday night, and of course Jedfish is
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: facing all of those Michigan rumors. The Wolverines have still
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: yet to name their head coach. They're panicked in Arizona State.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: I know that over Kenny Dillingham possibly taking the job. Jedfish,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: his name is still out there, and Kaylin de Boor
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: has gone out of his way to deny his interest
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: in the but.
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: Who knows, which means he'll probably take it to me.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, probably Fernando Mendoz who won the Heisman Saturday.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Navy did edge Army in a terrific game Saturday in Baltimore.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: The college Football Playoff starts Friday with Alabama at Oklahomajre
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Polonko signed with the Mets over the weekend. Does that
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: mean he's not coming back to us?
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: Is that what that means?
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: I think that doesn't mean that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Oh shoot, we'll talk about that later on in the show.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: The Kraken have lost eight of nine games. Now they'll
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: take on the Avalanche tomorrow. It feels like they're already
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: in a must win kind of situation. And you dub
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: one over Southern Utah Saturday and college hoops they won't
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: play again until Seattle you this Friday. I don't know
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: what happened. Why are we playing this one game a week?
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: What happened with the schedule on that? I'm not really
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: sure how that happened.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: So a lot to discuss today.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: But when we come back cold Turkey Sandwich, a board
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: of scores, our look around the National Football League.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: On KJR, Myers kick on the way it is.
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: Myers delivers.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Seahawks up by two as Myers is the first Seattle
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: kicker ever with six field goals in a game. Hey,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: good Monday morning to you. It is Chuck Buck and
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Ashley with you is.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Greg Bell will join us in a matter of moments
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: to recap that game from yesterday. I was gonna say exciting.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was exciting. I don't know
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: if it's excited, very stressful. Six field goals from Jason
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Myers and the Seahawks do find a way to eat
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: the Indianapolis Colts and Philip Rivers by a final score
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: of eighteen to sixteen. The Hawks moved to eleven and
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: three on the year, five two at home by the
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: way with the two point win, and now get ready
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: for the game of the year This Thursday, Thursday Night Football,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: they will host the Los Angeles Rams with first place
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: on the line. Both teams eleven and three on the season.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: So much to discuss today with our insiders.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Greg here at.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: About two minutes, Hugh Milling at eight o'clock, Mike Homeran
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: at nine o'clock.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Here on a Monday morning quarterback.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Let's rip through your other headlines though, brought to you
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: by Frostbrewed Corps Light Shoes Chill. Patrick Mahomes injured his
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: knee at the end of the Kansas City Chiefs lost
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: to the Los Angeles Chargers. It was a loss that
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: knocked him from the playoffs, any contention for the playoffs,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I should say, and Mahomes also suffered a torn ACL,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: so he will certainly miss the rest of this season,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: and he will miss a portion of next season as well,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: at least that is the thought. Micah Parsons of the
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers also tore his ACL yesterday and a
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: loss to the Denver Broncos.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: He will miss the rest of the season.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Davante Adams injured a hamstring at the end of the
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Rams win over the Detroit Lions, and so seems kind
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: of far fetched that he might be ready to go
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: in time to play on a short week Thursday against
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks, but we shall see. Monday Night football will
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: close out this week in the National Football League. It'll
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: be the Miami Dolphins, who have been hot just a
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: game under five hundred at Pittsburgh against the Steelers, who
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: are just a game.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Over five hundred.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: College football all sorts of news over the weekend you
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: dubbed thirty eight ten winners over Boise State, and the
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: LA Bowl Army did lose to Navy, which we'll talk
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: more to about with Greg Bell here in a matter
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: of moments.
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: Be careful, I'm not gonna be sensitive.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: Oh wow, what I said to him on Friday before
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: we know jeez.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza won the Heisman Trophy the Indiana quarterback and
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: the Michigan Wolverines have still not hired their next head coach,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: which pretty much puts every fan base in America on
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: blast waiting to see which domino will fall in that area.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: The college football Playoff will start this Friday with Maama
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: at Oklahoma.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Stove news over the weekend or A. Polanco is not
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: returning to the Mariners.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: He signed a two year, forty million dollar deal to
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: become a member of the New York Mets. The Kraken
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: have lost eight of nine games, and we'll try to
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: get right tomorrow at home against the Colorado Avalanche.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: So those are your headlines. Here a lot going on.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: One other note, I should certainly pass on U dub
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: soccer playing for the men's National Championship game tonight against
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: NC State four pm. Finally, some bragging rights over Will
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Brinson that jerk four pm. That's when that match will
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: get started. It will be on ESPNU, So go Dogs.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Best of luck to Washington as they try to win
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: the soccer title. Tonight, Let's talk some football with Greg Bell.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: With the bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought to
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: you by Copola Diamond Collection Prosecco, Chris Sparkling with bright
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: fruit flavors to make every toast shine game Day bubbles
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: only with Copola Diamond Prosecco. Now with twelfth Man News,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Budd. I sure hope
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: your weekend went well.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Despite the fact that Ashley's a little bit of a
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: jerk about, you know the things she says, and that
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: things didn't quite turn out the way you wanted them
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: to on Saturday.
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: Are you all right, sir?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, good morning. Un Fortunately the Army Davy. One of
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the magical things of it is that it's so much
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: more than the game itself. It was a reunion for me.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I got to see at the end of the first quarter.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: At the end at every Army Davy game, we meet
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: behind one of the sections and have a class picture.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And every year i'd see guys from my class that
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I had seen in thirty years, twenty years, ten years,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: five years, and we catch up. And that's what happened
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: on Saturday. And I missed most of the second quarter
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: because I was catching up with guys and Giles I
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: hadn't seen in a while. So we had in d sparracks,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: which is the basic training for West Point cadets. You
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: very first day, when you are dropped off our day,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you go into a squad of ten and those are
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: your day ones, as the kids saying, those are the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: people you go all the way through be sparricks with
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and they see it's your worst and toughest and when
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: you're stressed you want to leave. Of those first ten
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the East squad, five of them were there and that
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: was cool. I got five of my day ones and
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: caught up with and pictures. That was great.
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: So it's great.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was to be a part of it with you,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that first time he's been. He was blown away.
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: We were on the field for the end of the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: game and man, if the kid had just fallen the
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: sense of them had just fallen on that fumble, they
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: probably win. And he tried to scoop it up and
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: run ninety seven I'd get it. He could have been
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: an immortal for scooping it up and run ninety seven
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: yards in the Army Navy game for a touchdown. So
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: he tried that and he lost the ball and maybe score.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. That's always a thrilling event, the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: whole thing, the scene. I keep saying it. But if
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: you've never gone, and you're a sports fan and you
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: had the means, I would so highly recommend you go
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: to an Army Navy game. It's it's unparalleled.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Did Mike McDonald give you a condolences when he saw
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: you yesterday?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: He didn't. I thought he might, actually, Yeah, I think
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: he saw how this shoveled, and Austin I was, I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: went straight from the It was snowing in Baltimore yesterday morning,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and so we were sitting on the tarmac for two
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: hours after we pushed away from the gate, waiting to
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: get de iced. So when we landed, that was only
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: like ten am. We didn't land till afternoon. So I
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: went straight from the airport too. I changed in the
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Sea Tack parking garage bathroom and put on the dressier clothes.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I went straight from the airport to the stadium, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I was, yeah, I'm sorry, News Tribune readers, that was
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: my best game story in history of years yesterday.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Well, what was the reaction in the locker room players
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: coaches to having faced Philip Rivers in the story of
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: the week in the National.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Football Room this year? I thought Barr and Murphy put
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: her best. He said to me, I said, what do
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: you expect did facing Rivers and trying to get to
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: him and all that was that we'd expected? He said,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to expect, He said, I didn't
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: know if he was going to come out and rip it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if he could barely move. He Devin
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Witherspoon said he'd never been quite sick this way, but
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: he said what was different was that the defensive backs
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: had to adjust to how slow the passes were coming
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: and that the balls were fluttering. It was like facing
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Phil neicro as a quarterback, Tim or Tim Wakefield, he
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: said that they would. They were mistiming getting to receivers
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and sometimes being late, sometimes being early. We got a
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: couple of passive France penalties Josh Job in particular in
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the first half. They were not used to the change
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: ups that Rivers were throwing. He was throwing. I mean
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: even his bubble screens were fluttering. That it was way different. Now,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: having said all of that, I thought there were still
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: a couple of Grandpa moments, didn't you, Like in the
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: first half when he just fell down and then got
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: up and just filled Downlet Yeah, Yet they were just
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: throwing all short passes for a while. He wasn't throwing
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: anything beyond five yards, and in fact, in the second quarter,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Rivers threw it beyond ten yards for the first time
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: in the game, and his receiver downs number two down
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the left sideline, had beaten Josh Job, it would have
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: been a touchdown. But Downs didn't even look up for
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the ball, and he's like, well, there's no way your
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: grandpa's gonna throw it this far, and it landed like
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: two yards inside of him at his feet. I don't
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: know if you remember that, ye, yeah, but if I'm sure,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: that's because Downs was like, he's not gonna throw it
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: this far, and there was. It would have been a touchdown.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I'd been looking for the ball. So it took the
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Seahawks about a quarter and a half to figure all
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: that out. That's how they started the game far too
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: soft in coverage, way too far off, and allowing the
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: culture just run two or three yard routes right in
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: front of him. They got tighter in the second quarter,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: but still they should have gone eleven across the front
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: honestly to take away run lanes and then just challenge
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the receivers to try to go buy them because Rivers
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: was not going to throw deep. I can count like
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: three times I remember Rivers throwing further than ten to
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: twelve yards, including the last play of the game when
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: weather'spent tipped it to Josh Joe for the interception. I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: think I saw the statu of the twenty seven throws
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that Rivers had yesterday. Eighteen of them were below ten
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: yards in the air, and so I thought it took
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks way too long to change And after the game,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: McDonald said, yeah, it was a massive departure from what
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the Colts usually do offensively and that we had to
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: change it up as well. I thought they should up plastered.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I'd been eleven across the line
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it seemed like the Colts had a
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: good game plan of how to use an aging guy
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: that hasn't really been in the building, because just to me,
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: it feels like the further you go downfield, the more
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: the lack of timing is going to be in and
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: you know, in rhythm with the guys.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: And yet they moved the ball.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's got to be some sort of concern
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: you end up getting a w So the concern shouldn't
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: be excessive, is it? Is it nothing on the concern
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: of what they did defensively because you held a team
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: to sixteen points? Is it just more so the offensive
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: woes the fact that you didn't score a touchdown.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I underlined it, and you almost had to be
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: perfect defensively to stay in the game because the offense
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: was malfunctioning, especially at third down the red zone. It
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: was I think you were two thirteen on third down.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: The key to the game was stopping Jonathan Taylor. It
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: was that coming into it and it was going out
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: of it. In the first quarter and a half, let's
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: just call it the first half, he had sixteen carries.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: He was averaging nineteen carries a game coming in and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: he had sixteen. By halftime, he had fifty eight yards.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: He ended up with just eleven yards in the second half.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: To me, that was the key to the game because
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: in the first half, after the Colts their first seven
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: drives in the game until deep in the third quarter,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: they had run on multiple plays multiple times in a
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: row to start a drive. Every time two or three
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: times in a row they ran this begins drives. That
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: happened seven consecutive drives. So what's that mean. The Colts
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: game plan was that they were going to run on
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: first and second down so that it was third and
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: short instead of third and nine. And the game turned
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: when the Seahawks stopped Taylor, limited him on first and
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: second down. And that was in the third quarter and
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the Colts only scored three points in the second half
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: because the runs on first and second down didn't go anywhere.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: And instead of third and two and three, it was
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: third and nine and ten, and that's when the Seahawks
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: got after the Rivers affected him and he couldn't throw. Well,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: be on ten yards down the field on third and three.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you're throwing five yard outs. See
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: we'll get the first down on third and nine, third
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: and ten, you throw five yeard outs, you're punting. And
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: that's honestly what the difference in the game was that
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: once the Seahawks limited Tailor to just eleven yards in
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the second half, they stopped them from scoring but three points.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: That was the key to the game. It's easier said
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: than done. Taylor was dragging defenders in the first half.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: They started when they hit him bringing him down in
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the second half instead of getting dragged, and that was
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: a difference between third and three and third and eight.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Greg Belli is whether it's our Seahawks insider. Of course,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Seahawks winning yesterday over the Indianapolis Colts barely eighteen to
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: sixteen and Philip Rivers. If you want to follow Greg
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: and his coverage Thethewstremmune dot Com also at chi Bel Seattle.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: What was the message?
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: What was the wording that was used by Clint Kubiak
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: on the sidelines when he huddled up an offense that
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: did not score a touchdown all day long.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Well, the player said he was as animated as he's
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: been all year, and he was pretty fired up near
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: the end of the game before they went out and
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: drove down the field. Let's go back. I think the
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: hero of the game was Mike McDonald when there was
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: a minute twelve left when Josh Joe gave up that
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: third down completion Tyler Warren, the tight end on the
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: left sideline. It was third and seven, the Seahorks looking
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: even get the ball back in goods stead to win
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the game, and then Joe gives up a third and set.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: No coach probably would have gone on fourth down. Of
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: course there too, but it was a fifteen to thirteen game.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: The Colts had just crossed midfield. They were at the
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: forty nine of the Seahawks with one twelve left, and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: that's when McDonald started using his timeouts, and there was
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: some murmuring in the press box with my colleagues on
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: what they were doing there, because that's a sixty some
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: yard field goal from there, So why are you taking
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: your defensive timeouts? Then, well, McDonald assumed rightly that worst case,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: if they do somehow kick a field goal from there,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: or if they start getting first downs, I need to
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: get my offense, leave my offense enough time to operate.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And after the game, Sam Donald said, we played that mean.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: McDonald played that perfectly because as a quarterback, I'd rather
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: have fifty seconds and no timeouts than twenty or fifteen
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: seconds with two timeouts. And he explained, he kind of inferred,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: didn't quite explain, but their difference is with fifty seconds
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: and no timeouts, you can throw the ball anywhere middle
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: of the field, down deep down the field, because there's
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: still enough time if you catch it in bounds to
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: run your offense up and spike the ball. When you
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: have twenty or fifteen seconds, but two timeouts, you're somewhat
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: limited there. You can only do that one or two
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: times if you have a time out left. And sure enough,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: the Colts play exactly as McDonald had guessed. The Colts
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: played for a field goal from sixty yards. They ran
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor on first down, they ran Jonathan Taylor on
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: a third and four to set up a sixty yard
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: field Who does that? And then the kicker, Shane Steichen
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: was right. His kicker made a sixty yard field goal
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: with like three or four yards of spare. But because
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: McDonald used all three of his timeouts on defense in
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: that sequence, when the Colts are running twice in three
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: downs and throwing in bounds on the third play, then
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks had forty seven seconds when they got the
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: ball back. Rashid Shaheed makes a great kickoff return. That
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: was a poor kick by the way, is landed like
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a seven yard He just can't do that. You got
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: to give a make it more of a challenge to
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the goal line. It was a short kickoff Rashid from
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the seven to the thirty seven. It was their second
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: best drive start of the game. There were ten on
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: their own goal line the whole game, but there they
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: were at the thirty seven. One pass on an interrout
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: to Shiheed, another eight yard pass to the sheet and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: there in field goal range with just two completions thanks
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: to Shieed's kick return. After the game, you know how
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: they give game balls, Devin Witherspoon and Niki Worrie have
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: gotten them. Jackson sent and Jigger was collecting them for
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the year he's had. Mike mcdond in the locker room
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: gave the the game bol to Brian Ayres, his lead
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: research analyst, because Errors was up in the press box
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: telling Mike McDonald to use his timeouts, and he said
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: that Errs was so convicted about it and was so
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: convincing about it that he had to do it. He
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: said he was kind of on the fence whether to
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: do it from midfield, but Errors convinced him to do it.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: It won the game. If they had let most coaches
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: would have not used those timeouts, so the Colts were
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: in better field goal more conventional field goal range. Airs
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: convinced McDonald to use him when he did. Air's got
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: a game ball for giving the offense the chance to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: win the game.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Jason Myers has to be what the f What do
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: I gotta do? What that kicker got to do to
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: get a game ball around here?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Can we cut that ball in half? Truth be told,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Truth be told? They give out multiple game ball I'm
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: sure Jason Myers going.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: All right, yeah, in our last minute before we got
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: to ask about Thursday.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: I mean it's going to be here before you know what,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and so here we go. Are they ready, I mean
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: they're not playing as good at football as they were.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I think the last time they face the Rams. Are
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: they ready for this?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're ready right now because they can't.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: A lot of guys can't even walk on Monday morning.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: But they will get there. And their offense has to
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: be better. Just that's nothing, no great shakes to that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: They got to be better on third down. But I
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: will say this, they are good enough. If their quarterback
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't turn the ball over, their win. The biggest thing
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald did yesterdays he did turn the ball over.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: He led the league in the sixteen turnovers. He almost
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: lost one when he fumbled it, but it went out
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: of bounds in the second quarter. But if he hasn't
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: turned the ball over, the two games, throw out the
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: JV game at the end of the last season. The
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: two games the McDonald and mcveay have gone head to head.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: McDonald's schemes have limited the Rams offense. They made Stafford
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: look like something like a forty four year old Philip
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: rivers Don in Inglewood last month and if Donald doesn't
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: throw four interceptions, they win that game. They lost twenty
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: one to nineteen. When the quarterback the four interceptions and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: handed the Rams, they're three touchdowns. The McDonald's got confidence
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: that he can shut them down. The key to the
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: game is that Donald can't give the Rams a short field.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Donald doesn't turn it over. The defense is playing at
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: the level that they can beat the Rams. The problem
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: now is the forty nine Ers aren't losing either. So
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: now you have two of these, you got two battle royals.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: You gotta beat the Rams in the forty nine ers
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: to win the division. But yeah, they're not ready today, guys,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: they won't even be ready Wednesday. Let me tell you.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: NFL players are not ready to play Thursday night games.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: But they're gonna have to be ready physically. The Rams
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: are in the same boat, of course, But yeah, Sam
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Donald holds the keys of this game on Thursday.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: All Right, we'll go get some rest.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta be ready for next year's Army
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Navy game, and that starts today.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Especially because it's in New York. But yes, I won't
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: get rest.
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: Thank you, all right?
• 41:25
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• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, what an odd game on Sunday, A game that
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks won by a final score of eighteen to
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: sixteen behind six that's right, six Jason Meers field goal,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: including the game winner with the clock you know, with
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: inside seconds the remaining in the contest. Mike Homernil joined
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: us at nine o'clock to evaluate everything, joining us though.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Right now is our QB one.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I'm so curious as to where he wants to start
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: his analysis because there's a major topics out there.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: So where does it begin for you, Hugh this morning?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I would just say the as
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: a fan, as an analyst, the close game didn't bother
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: me at all. I mean, the Seahawks are still number
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: one in the NFL in point margin at one hundred
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: and sixty three. There's only three teams that are over
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: one hundred rams and Patriots being the other one. So
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: they have six games where they've had double digit wins.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: That's second most in the NFL. So the fact that
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: it was a tight game, it's the NFL. That stuff's
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: going to happen. We'll get into it in detail, I assume,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: but I'm not least bit disappointed with how they defended
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Philip Rivers.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: I thought there'd be more sacks. That's that's really the
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: area that surprised me. But they were not only fine,
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: they were very good on defense. I think that the
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and of course the kicker phenomenal. But what does concern
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: me is the red zone and the fringe red zone
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks have in weeks ten, in the last six weeks,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: they are making field goals when they get inside the
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: opponent's forty yard lines. That makes sense. Red zone is
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: inside your opponents twenty. Fringe red zone is inside the
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: opponent's forty the Seahawks, that's at just under seventy sixty
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: nine point seven percent. Not only they number one in
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the NFL in field goals and and and only thirty
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: first in touchdowns let me say the first, but their
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: field goal percentage, the gap between them and second place
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: is greater than the gap between second place and twenty
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: fourth place. Like they are kicking field goals at an
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: alarming rate. Now, good on Myers that he's making them,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: but I think that that that is problematic given where
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: we are on the skit, on the calendar, and on
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: the schedule moving forward. They just you know, these this
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: clunkiness of the offense I think is concerning. And and
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: and they've had a thirty seven percent drop in their
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: big play production, uh in the last five weeks. So
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: there's some things that you know that I can I
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: can discard about the game yesterday, But there's some elements
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: of the football team that constituted, in my mind, trends
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: that just simply must get reversed.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: All right, Well, we're gonna have obviously, we got a
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: couple hours with you and and so we're going to
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: get to the bottom of all of that stuff. But
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go to kind of the first thing, just
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: the the bigger topic going into the game. You didn't
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: you didn't have much of an issue or any issues
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: with the way in which they defended the Colts, in particular,
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: Philip Rivers. I'm with you. I didn't feel like it
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: was bad. I mean, they end up scoring sixteen points,
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: so it wasn't bad. They didn't give up a ton
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: was it more of a They just had a good
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: game plan of how to get rid of the ball.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Because Greg had kind of thought, well, why didn't they
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: just play press and just bring a bunch of guys up,
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: because it didn't look at all like they were going
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: to try to go over the top and beat you,
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: So why not take that underneath stuff away?
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. I think they could have
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: tried to make more havoc. But let's just stop for
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: a moment here. Philip Rivers threw for one hundred and
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: twenty yards and he had a seventy three point passerwating
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: while we're getting caught up and the fact that he's
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: forty four years old and haven't played in five years,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: let's just put that into context. If he did that,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: if he was the starting quarterback for an NFL team,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: and he did that every week games, he would throw
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: for two thousand and forty yards. Last year, there were
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: eleven quarterbacks who had played seventeen games. The minimum is
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: thirty five hundred and forty one yards. The average is
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: four thousand and fifty eight, so he would be less
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: than half of the average for a guy playing seventeen games,
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: and then the passer rating the minimum I mentioned Rivers
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: was seventy three. The minimum of those starters who had
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: eleven starters who had seventeen games, the minimum was an
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: eighty seven pass rating. The average is ninety nine point
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: eight call it one hundred. So if Philip Rivers did
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: that for an NFL team for an entire season, that
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: team would be picking number one in the draft because
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: that would be one of the worst quarterback seasons we've
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: seen in history, certainly in re history.
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: So there you know.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Air yards per completion. Philip Rivers had one point three
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: to nine. This is all straight from the NFL staff portal.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: One point three nine. That's that's that's one point four
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: yards from the line of scrimmage. On his average on
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: his completions on on throws that he threw the ball
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: more than five yards from the line of scrimmage, he
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: was two of nine. He completed two passes where the
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: ball went more than five yards. So look, I actually
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I really like Philip Rivers.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: I'm a fan.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: If he wasn't playing for the Seahawks, I think I'd
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: be rooting for him. But but let's let's not.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: True.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: He didn't have four interceptions, he didn't give him a
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Max braswell, he didn't have nine sacks. So I certainly
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: we can all envision a scenario where where it was
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: much uglier for Philip Rivers. But on No No Planet,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll dig in on the beach and and
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: fight you hard. If you're gonna say that that in
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: any way, that that he had a good game or
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: a decent game. No, he did not have a good game.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: He did not have a decent game. He just avoided
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: the calamity that would land him the first story on
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Sports Center. That's about all you can say.
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I like to do.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: I like to do like I don't. I don't take
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: any joy trying to rip Philip Rivers. But look, I'm
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: just confronting these facts. Still was better than I thought
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: it was going to be. Yeah, because we thought it
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: would be a calamity, right yeah.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: And for for him to have not played in five
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: years and practiced twice and really not based the speed
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: of the game, I mean, for him to have not
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: been sacked five times and throw three interceptions, I think
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: it's damn near a football miracle. You, Yeah, I think
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: there could be two truths.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I think that could be true and and I think
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: it also can be true that that that the Colts
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: pass offense was entirely, entirely uh, you know, non productive
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: by anybody's reasonable standard in modern NFL. I mean, if
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: this was I mean the league started in nineteen twenty,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, if we went back one hundred years, I
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: bet that was an okay passing game for nineteen twenty five.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: But did they have the forward pass in nineteen twenty
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: I think they But my point so, look, the Seahawks
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: defense was fine, more than fine. They just didn't create
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: the havoc that probably many of us expected. But the
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: problem from yesterday was the offense.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Well, let's get into it. Yeah, let's get into the
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: offensive aspect of this. And maybe at the heart of
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: it is we just keep waiting for this run game,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: and we keep waiting for Ken Walker to be effective.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: And yeah, they had three yards at halftime, and yet
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: the determination to run the football still exists. And even
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: there was one drive here where it looked like they'd
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: moved up tempo. They completed a couple passes in a
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: row and it looked like okay, Now the offense is
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: starting to kick in and they go with three straight runs,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: bogged down and settle for a field goal. So I
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: don't know where you want to start with it, but
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: certainly the run game is not helping this offense play.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Well, no, it's really not, And particularly on the the
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: stretch plays, the wide zone that we heard so much
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: about with Clint Kubiak and and I think you know,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: and watching that tape, it looked like it was first
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: week of mini camp. Just the fundamentals you know early
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: on there, you you have to have eyes when you
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: when when you have basically zone blocking, you're stepping in
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: the direction you're going and you're trying to reach, but
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: you're you're going to have two guys are gonna say, okay,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: we're we're double teaming those two. One guy at the
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: defensive line level, one guy at the at the next level,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: and and you both come off and you're trying to
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: be hip to hips, shoulder to solder and get some
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: movement with that guy. But then you both then you
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: have eyes on the next level guy, the linebacker, and
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: then one of the two if he takes an inside angle,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: then the inside guy's gonna block him. If he tries
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: to scrape over the top, then the outside guy's gonna
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: get him. So there's too many times where early on
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: they're they're they're they're not seeing guys, they're not getting
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: the timing of when they released the second level was
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: very poor. And then it's like they overcompensated because then
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: they said, Okay, we're not getting to our second level guys,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: and then you start to see that they making they're
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: making problems for their selves because they're getting the second
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: level too fast and almost looks like man and man blocking. Well,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: if you get man and man blocking, there's a reason
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: why there's the zone blocking where you want to get
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: the initial double teams at the at the line of
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: scrimmage with the defensive linemen. So if you only have
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: one guy to block at the defensive line, then then
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: that's a problem.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: There.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Another facet was I thought the Colts were very good,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: and you know, at some point you run out of
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: bodies on those wide zone. The wide receiver he's got
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: to either block the corner or he's got to block
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: the safety. And depending on the hash and the formation
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: and the coverage, it can be different. But I thought
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: the Colts when when when the wide receiver go block
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: the safety the corner. Bam, he just triggered and fired,
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: almost to the point where Seattle cult a call to
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: halfback pass. You know, if they have it in there
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: in their repertoire, because the the secondary is firing so
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: fast and they're they're absolving what's what's called primary support
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: and secondary support. Primary run support on an edge is
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: if you see the ball coming out, you just fire
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: corner back. Uh, there has to be somebody who has
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: secondary run support where you say, wait a minute, you
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: don't get to fire until the ball passes the line
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: of scrimmage because you have to defend the halfback pass.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: And so I thought the Colts their secondary on some
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: of those wide plays were triggering really really fast. Either
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: whoever wasn't blocked between the corner and the safety did
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: a good job. And you know, and then they try
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: and run a power you know, a gap scheme they pull.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know why they pull Anthony Bradford and go
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: power left. I would pull Gray's Abel and go power right.
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: But that was a mess.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: So it just looked like, I don't know, it looked
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: like mini camp is what it looked like in terms
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: of just how they're handling fundamentals and give the Colts
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: some credit. As I described, I'm with you.
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think credit is deserved to some degree
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: kind of across the board, the way in which they
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: came out and played decent defense to kind of try
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: to shut down some of the things that they weren't gonna.
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: Let them be run all over.
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: To me, there was a part of it where if
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: there was a disappointment, it would be that it almost
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: seemed like the play calling was We're okay with just
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: kind of eating up clock when we get it, and
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: if we have to pawn a few times, fine, If
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: we got to just settle for three, that's fine. Whereas
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: the idea to me would be after a quarter you
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: kind of saw the cults going to be this, you know,
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: trying to you know, hit you with big plays. They
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: were just going to be trying to methodically move it
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: down there with a run game primarily and a couple
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: of third down conversions, and then the settle for three
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: majority of the time themselves. So I thought, why not
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: open it up a little bit, because if you just
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: scored one touchdown, it felt like you were going to
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: be able to kind of run away with this thing.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: Instead they went really conservative. It felt like to me,
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: did you see that or no?
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I think there was a number of times where
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: they were calling plays where they're trying to get downfield verticals,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: whether it's like all goes or whether they're doing what's
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: called dagger concept where you're clearing out the inside and
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: trying to bring an any intermediate cut in from the
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: outside on a deep inbreaking route.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: There.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: They had those plays called.
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: But I thought that.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold was really had to move early in the down.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: I mean there was constant breakdowns, whether it was physical
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: breakdowns in the or in the community. Cation they didn't
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: get a block, you know, running backs, poor pass blocking,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: uh aj Barner missing a past block. I mean they
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: had They had a variety of breakdowns where Sam Darnold
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: was having to move off the spot. So I think
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: that there was an effort to try and open it
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: up more. I just think, uh, they didn't get the execution.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: And you know, I don't talk about field position every week,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: but I think it's worth mentioning guys this that the
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Colts basically both teams had ten drives. If we if
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: we if we exclude Seattle's when they got the interception
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: at the very end of the game, they took one
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: play to kneel down. Right, So if we exclude that,
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: then both teams had ten drives, and all ten of
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: those drives started with the opposing team kicking right. It
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: was it was off the foot of the opposing teams
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: got me so when so the Seahawks all of their
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: offensive drives were either because they got a punt or
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: because they got a kickoff. And same thing with the Colts.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: There was no turnovers and there was no four downs
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: loss of downs. Okay, so every drive started but from
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: a kick. The worst start that the Colts had was
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: on their own twenty four yard line for the entire game. Worst,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Seattle had seven starts that were worse than the Colts
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: worse see the average. If you take away again that
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: kneel down, that one playe kneel down as the last
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: play of the game. If you take that away, the
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Colts average start was at their own thirty five yard line. Again,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: all of those started as a result of a Seattle
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: either Dixon or Meyers kicking to them. Seattle's was the
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: twenty you say, well, okay, fifteen yard difference. No, that's
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: fifteen yards average per times ten. That's one hundred and
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: fifty yards advantage that the Colts had in field position
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: over the course of the game, just in terms of
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: where they started. So I think that that played a
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: factor in, you know, in some of the the troubles
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: that Seattle had offensively.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: Well, let's let's discuss that, because the first thing out
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: of your mouth when it just open ended, where does
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: your mind go about this game? Was settling for the
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: field goals. So when they had that offensive huddle, should
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: it have been the players taking Kubiak to task or
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: vice versa? What is breaking down for you that's forcing
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: them to settle for these field goals that are frustrating.
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: Well, they had the.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Six field goals and anytime you say, okay, okay, that's great,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: six six field goals, no touchdowns. Now technically they were
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: they were over to in the red zone. That's why
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: I wanted to say the red zone fringe, which is
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: the forty inn And I hope you guys got that
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: in the last you know, the last five weeks that
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: you know, they're at seventy percent of the time they
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: break through the opponent's forty they're going to kick a
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: field goal, which is by far.
• 59:08
  Speaker 8: And away Number one.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: I just think that there's they don't have the protection
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: to get the ball down the field. And now there
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: was there was a couple of breakdowns. I think sam
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Donold had a good game under the circumstances. But I've
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: got a couple of minuses on his sheet in the
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: second quarter. I'll tell you what and I'll get back
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: to your question about Kubiak addressing the team the final
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: drive of the second quarter where they got the field
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: goal right there, down thirteen to three. Did you feel
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: like that was a pivotal drive that they could get
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: the field goal and pulled the within touchdown. Didn't that
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: seem like that was important? The first play of that drive,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: number forty four. Look him up, the linebacker for the Colts.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: He comes based on a miss communication with Seattle. He
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: comes untouched through the a gap. I mean literally not
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: even a finger. Nobody even knew. It was like he
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: was wearing an invisible suit. Nobody blocked him. And if
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: that's a on first down, if he takes a six
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: seven eight yard sack there and it's and they don't
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: go down the field, I thought that was a hell
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: of a play by him, But Darnaire Franklin, by the way,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Franklin just somehow Sam Darnold made him miss. Somehow he
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: made a miss, and that might have been a three
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: point a very vital three point miss. But later in
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: that drive, the Colts were doing a coverage you just
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: rarely see. They start looking like they're in a three
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: deep zone. And this is the defense that I like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: into a baseball outfield and infield, all right, because there's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: three deep in four hundred and if you can picture
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: four hundred in an infield and three three deep in
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: an outfield, of course you can. Well, that's that's what
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: cover three is. But the Colts were taking the safety
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: and they were coming down. It would be like the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: center fielder at the snap coming down to stand on
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: second base, and and the entire center field is wide open.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: And when I first saw it, I got like, is
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: that a bust? Like was that supposed to rotate? Like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: like that guy was coming down. It must be a
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: coverage called three buzz where he has the he plays
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: the short stop, and then the and then the guy
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: who lines up at second base. He runs to center
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: field to carry out the baseball analogy. But there was
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: an opportunity where Rashi Chi he the corners outside leverage
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: when that safety comes down, Rashid Shihed had a post.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you every NFL quarterback meeting room in the league,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: it's like, dude, the light ain't gonna get any greener.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: You've got to crank that thing up and go for uh,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: go for the touch and if you miss it, you
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: miss it. But you can't not throw that post down.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: And then and then in the red zone when he
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: missed Rashi Shiheid it was a classic cover six, which
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: which means they roll over the top in the end
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: zone on third down, they roll over the top of
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: JSN to Sam Donald's left, So that means the corners
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: in the flat, the safety's over the top. It's a
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: form of double double coverage high low double coverage within
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: his own concept. And Rashid Shiheed has free access, meaning
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: he's not getting jammed. He's got one on one with
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: the corner. The tight end is Barner is eating up
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: the safety. So you got one on one and Donald
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: threw it well behind him and that's got to be
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: a touchdown. Now before I put it all on Donald,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: if you go. If you go back and listen to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: the podcast in August about things I was seeing at
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: training camp. I do not like a wide receivers to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: come up and then they have free access. So the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: defense has decided not to roll on scheeheed. Let me
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: explain this play because this is there's a big part
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: of Seattle's offense to me that I think is worth
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: a minute to describe what has Sam Darnold's seen. He says, Okay,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: I got cover six. They're rolling to my left on JSN.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: The tight end is eating up to safety. I got
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: one on one, beautiful. This is exactly what we practiced
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: on Friday because Friday's red zone day and they would
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: have scripted the defense and that's the play that that's
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: the coverage they were looking for. This is the play
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: to beat that coverage. So Rasids see he comes out
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: what I would what I would want him to do
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: is have his inside leg forward, go five steps, do
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: not slow down whatsoever. Put playing your outside leg and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: break to the post. And that it is much easier
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: to time up. You don't slow your momentum down. It's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: easier to throw routes on air. There's less inconsistency, which
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: means more consistency. And yet the way the Seahawks teach
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: it is it comes down and he he like stutters
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: and he slows his momentum down and then he's got.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: A REAC eight.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: And just fifty years of playing, coaching and analyzing the position,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: it's much harder to be on, you know, to have
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: cohesion when you teach that type of technique. I hate it,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: and so Donald ends up throwing the ball high and
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: away looks it's a bad pass. I guarantee a pro
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: football focus is gonna ding him on that, and I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: am too, like it's got to be a touchdown. I
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: get it, but I wish that they didn't teach it
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: that way because it would give Donald a much better
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: chance to see things and to anticipate it. You do
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: it just like it plays out against the defense, just
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: like routes on air when you're throwing back in march,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: and you just tighten up the consistency. So at any event,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: those are plays. You know, we're sitting here talking about
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: red zone, we're talking about kicking a lot of field goals,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: and these are some of the details where you say
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: we got to be better because you got a super
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: Bowl winning defense. Yeah, you do not have a super
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: like You're going to have to somehow hide a very
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: non super bowl offensive line. But the things, you know,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: they're good. The people who touch the ball on offense,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: that's a pretty damn good group, including Darnold, the running backs,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: the wide receivers, get Tory Horton back. It's great to
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: see Shaheed.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 8: I like the tight end like.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Things are pretty damn good in terms of the people
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: who touch the ball. But when they get opportunities like
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: I'm described, and they have to hit it. Because the
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: offensive line is the weakness of the football team and
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: everything even down to the special teams that I was
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: talking about, you know, starting field position, what the defense,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: the offensive line impacts everybody. But you get an opportunity
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: to make some of those plays, you got to hit them.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Monday Morning Quarterback with Hugh Mellan will continue on the
• 1:05:51
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• 1:05:53
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• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: We just got to start faster as an offense.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 8: We got to finish in the red zone.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 10: It's I feel like it's becoming a theme now these
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 10: next few weeks, and we've got to get it figured out.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: You know, I feel like our defense is playing really,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 10: really good football, but we got to step it up
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 10: a little bit as an offense, you know, and that
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: starts with me.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 8: We gotta play better.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold after yesterday's eighteen to sixteen win, a game
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: in which the Seadoups won the game but did not
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: score a touchdown, and yeah, these slow starts. This is
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: now going on weeks of this stuff, and with the
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: Rams coming up, you're not going to be able to
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: afford to do that heading into Thursday's game. Mike Homer
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: and Hugh Millen with us Monday Morning Quarterback rolls on.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: We were talking about it, the slow starts during the
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: break coach, and this goes all the way back to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. So it's John Schneider's fault, isn't it. They're
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: getting off to these slow offensive starts. That's the only
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: thing I can conclude. It's the common denominator.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 11: Well, I think, and I know John very well, and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 11: if I win in his office today, I tell him that, John,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 11: what are you doing? Did you call that player?
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  Speaker 8: What do you think it is?
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  Speaker 3: What's wrong?
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 11: I think they want to establish the run. That's the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 11: first thing. And when if it's working, it works. It's
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  Speaker 11: just like, see what's working. No one has a crystal
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  Speaker 11: ball about that stuff.
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  Speaker 8: You think.
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  Speaker 11: You look at the defense, you say, are going to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 11: start with this. I had my first fifteen plays, and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 11: you thought through that a lot. To take some of
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 11: the emotion out of in the excitement out of the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 11: play calling, because you could settle in and if it worked,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 11: it should work because we worked hard on it, and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 11: it worked most of the time, to be honest, so
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 11: you get off to a start, but then you got
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 11: to call the game the rest of the way. But
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 11: if it's not working, you have to be real honest
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 11: about it and just say we're going to go and
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 11: have a plan B. And so if you're starting the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 11: game slowly, you know, and that's okay against the opponent
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 11: you think, I don't know, we don't have to score
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 11: this much or against these guys. But you know, that's
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 11: a mindset and I never thought much like that. It's
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 11: and everyone everyone's different. So Mike McDonald's defense, you've got
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 11: a great defense. No one's gonna score too much on them.
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  Speaker 11: They haven't.
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  Speaker 8: Uh so maybe they.
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  Speaker 11: Can afford to be a little more conservative that way
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  Speaker 11: early in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Mike, when you talk about pivoting away from what the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: plan was, I don't think it's just well, we thought
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  Speaker 3: we wanted to run the ball, but we can't, so
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: let's pass the ball more. Isn't there some more nuance
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: to that that, For example, you wanted to run outside
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: the stretch and and you're not getting the yards from
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: the stretch, then you know, maybe you run a power
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: you know, what's called gap scheme, chucking buck where you're
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: pulling the backside guard. That's a different schematic.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think maybe inside zone might have been
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: the better course. But but you're looking at that run
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: sheet and you're saying, Okay, I don't really like these runs,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: but maybe these runs, let's let's take a crack at those.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe talk about that part of the process.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's exactly what you have to do, you you know.
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  Speaker 11: And I saw yesterday there was one play I remember
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 11: where they were pulling Bradford from right to left and
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 11: the defender just came in and chopped them down in
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 11: a big pile up and minus yards. And I'm going,
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  Speaker 11: I'm not sure that's I probably might want to go
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 11: the other way, you know, wave and have not Bradford pull,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 11: but the other guard.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know.
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  Speaker 11: Some things like that, you know, and so yeah, it's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 11: it's but here. The other thing I would say is
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 11: play action pass, get underneath the center, have a couple
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 11: backs in there, use a full back and run out
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  Speaker 11: of that. But also play action pass out of it.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 11: To make the defense think about having to defend more things,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 11: not just we're gonna tee you off.
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  Speaker 8: This is what they do.
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  Speaker 11: And I thought I saw that yesterday. I thought Indianapolis
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 11: did that. They anticipated and and we're right many a
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 11: lot of the time. So mix it up, different formations,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 11: different different throwing spots for the quarterback, get them thinking
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 11: a little bit on defense, and then do your thing.
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  Speaker 6: Coach d you got a rematch coming up Division rival,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: a lot of them on the on the table coming
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  Speaker 6: up Thursday against the Rams. This is one where I
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  Speaker 6: think you can give some great insight you being the
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  Speaker 6: offensive mastermind that you were.
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  Speaker 8: It's similar to like.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: What McVeigh is in today's game, going against a guy
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: in Mike McDonald.
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  Speaker 8: It's a defensive guru.
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  Speaker 6: Uh in your in your opinion, where did that advantage
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: go when you know the team you're going against as
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: well as you know anybody because they're a division fo
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: it is the rematch that that year, and so you
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: have some stuff tape man on man type stuff to
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  Speaker 6: go with. Did you always did you feel that that
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: was advantage offensive mind? Or did you feel that that
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: was advantage defensive mind?
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  Speaker 11: I thought it was always to our advantage as long
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 11: as we could take away or at least balance their strength.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 11: I go back to when I was with the forty
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  Speaker 11: nine ers and we played the New York Giants, great
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 11: football team, big rivalry at that time. Well, they had
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 11: Lawrence Taylor on the outside, they have you know, Banks
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 11: on the outside. But what bothered Joe Montana was pressure
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  Speaker 11: right up the middle and the ram and the Giants
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 11: knew that, and it wasn't the guys on the outside
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 11: as great as they were. And so the game plan
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 11: there was to make sure try and make sure they
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 11: didn't get as much pressure up front.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 11: The other thing is going against different secondary people. Okay,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 11: you're going against Dion Sanders or whomever. You know, you
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 11: don't stop throwing like the Packers did against the Seahawks
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 11: one year. You're not going to throw to that side
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 11: because you know Richard Sherman's over there. You don't want
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 11: to do that, but you do want to take advantage
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 11: and move the people around. Move your people around. So
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 11: understand where where the problems are, the big problems. There
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 11: might be more than more than a couple. But then
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 11: go with that play you know the coach to that
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  Speaker 11: and have an answer for that.
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  Speaker 3: Bucky, Mike won't do this, but your Broncos. The apex
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: of Montana's career was that fifty five to ten super Bowl.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: That's the highest he ever reached. That Bronco defense was
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: number one in the NFL fewest points allowed, number one
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: in the NFL fewest first downs, number one, fewest touchdown
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: passes allowed. And that's how Montana carved it up with
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: Mike call in the place, so you know, you know,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: but you know, because it's the Broncos, we just had
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: to make him mention that I don't know, you know
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: what was that final score?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 8: Again?
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  Speaker 11: Here maybe mentioned that, but that to your point, but
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  Speaker 11: that's what happened in that game. Honestly, the safeties for Denver.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: At Water and I forget who the other one was,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: Darren Smith.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, they were good, really good, and they used them.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 11: They used them to squeeze and come up. They were
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 11: very you know, they ran a two deep defense, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 11: he has talked about that many times, but they also
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 11: for safeties in that defense. Typically they're not in the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 11: box that they don't come up that fast. Their job
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 11: is something else except endeavor. And so we thought, Okay,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 11: we do this, they'll come up. They've done it all
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 11: season and been great at it. What is our answer
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 11: for that? And we came up with a couple of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 11: things and it happened to work, and they let their
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 11: foot off the gas. Could have been a lot more. Well,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 11: I do need to mention this though. I mean, we
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 11: have one more segment to go, but I don't know
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 11: if we'll get to it. I mean, you and I
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 11: probably would never like dine with a kicker. We probably
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 11: wouldn't even call them.
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  Speaker 4: By their first name, you know, right right just but
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: our kicker is absolutely on fire right now, and so
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: I think I should bring him up so we can
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: say a nice thing about Jason Myers right now.
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  Speaker 11: I'm glad you brought it up. Yeah, I'm really glad
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 11: because one of us has to.
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  Speaker 8: Talk about it.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll talk about you know, to have a kicker
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 11: that you can depend on and have that much confidence
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 11: in that you if you get into that area where
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 11: I need to gain five more yards or whatever with him,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 11: it's amazing. But it also points to what's happened with
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 11: the kicking balls and the kickoff return and you don't
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 11: have to gain a lot of offensive yards to get
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 11: into a position to attempt a field goal and be
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 11: realistic about making it. It's unbelievable when that kid kicked
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 11: the sixty and then Jason all six of his and
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 11: I think most of them were passed. Most of them
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 11: are over forty five yards long.
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  Speaker 8: I used to be a long field goal.
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  Speaker 11: Oh that used to be Yeah, real questionable. Yeah, now
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 11: a good kicker like him, Hey, it's nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Mike, during just to kind of humble him a
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: little bit during stretching or something, would you say, hey, Myers,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: you know you still kick two kickoffs into the end
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: zone where and they got a touch back to the
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: thirty five. How about you, you know, tighten up your
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: game a little bit. Would you maybe uh busses balls
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: in a fun way that way, because because you know,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: if there was a flaw to it. You know, he
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: he's better than that and can't have that against the Rams.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what.
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  Speaker 11: To be honest, my strategy with the you know, I
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 11: told you what I used to tell him. One thing
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 11: I tell him, you know, have a good one. Kick
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 11: it between the uprights, Try and kick it between the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 11: up end, and stay away from my daughters. I don't
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 11: want my daughter marrying and a kicker.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Well, close close out with one last thing.
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  Speaker 4: Think I just came up with the solution by the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: way to the kicking at the end of games. Bucky,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: we're talking during the break. Bucky's like, well, they get
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: to take care of their kicking balls, so yeah, so carefully,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: so meticulous. Yeah, they polished their balls. What if the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: other team took care of their balls, then they had
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: to use the one the other.
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  Speaker 8: Team took care of. That's a great idea.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the other team stuff.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I could see him scuffed up. You get it
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 11: and look at it and there might be a lump
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 11: your you know, it's a great idea. It didn't even
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 11: look like that's what you had to kick the game
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 11: winner with who gave me this watermelon.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they'd be like, this is a beach ball. It's
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 8: not even a football's idea.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: It's our Monday morning quarterback session. We got Hugh here,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: we got Coach here, we got one more segment. So
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: one more thing for coach.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 8: What do you got Bucky? Coming up?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Big game?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: Obviously?
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  Speaker 6: Is this a game that the week leading up to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: you you tell because I mean, I just don't think
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: you can be conservative against one of the more potent
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: offenses in the Rams, and who knows how healthy they're
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: going to be. But is this one where all week
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: you tell your quarterback, hey, we're letting it rip, because
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: I think there is times there's certain games during a
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: certain season against certain opponents where you have to throw
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: caution out the window a little bit. You make smart choices.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: You don't want four interceptions, obviously, But is this one
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: where you're leading into this game your quarterback you're like,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: this is going to be your best game of the season.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 8: One of those Yeah, you kind of talk to the quarterback.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 11: I don't think you talked to the whole team that
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 11: way necessarily, but you are going to get your quarterback
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 11: ready for maybe a different style a different way we're
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 11: going to approach this now. Having said that, you know,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 11: the Rams the first game, I forget, the score was
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 11: low scoring, wasn't it the first.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Game twenty one nineteen.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it was kind of low scoring, and both teams
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 11: played good defense. And the Rams have a good defense
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 11: and good pressure up front. So it's not that much different,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 11: I don't think than how you prepare for every game, Buck,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 11: but it's a little different, and you talk to the
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 11: quarterback that way. He has to know who he's going against,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 11: and the Rams present more problems than the last few
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 11: teams they've played.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: Certainly here, what do you got, Well, I just have
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: a thought about Sam Donald, Mike, and we're gonna hear,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: you know, certainly the national people on the telecast, they're
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: going to talk about Sam Donald and how he had
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: a great year last year, but at the end of
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: the season against the Lions and then in the playoff
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: game against the Rams, he didn't play so well, and
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: they're going to ignore that. You know, during this season,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: as the Vikings won fourteen games, you know, he had
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: two wins against Green Bay, you know, second to last
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: game of the season, for example, three hundred and seventy
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: seven yards, seventy seven percent complete, one hundred and sixteen
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: passer rating the game against Seattle, the other game against
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Green Bay, and what have you. And in that playoff
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: game against the Rams. There have been thirty eight quarterbacks
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: this decade who have started a playoff game and lost,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: and the average pressures on the quarterback is fifteen. Mahomes
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl last year when he was awful
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: against the pressure from the Eagles, he had seventeen in
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: that Super Bowl last year, Donald against the Rams, far
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: and away of all those quarterbacks, thirty eight twenty seven
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: pressures he was under from that Ramedy. That was an
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: entire ram onslaught against against Sam Donald and Mike. Here's
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: a list of quarterbacks who have a worse passer rating
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: on average when they lose the game. Does this sound
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: like an impressive list of quarterback this decade? Pat Mahomes,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, Jayden Daniels, Dak Prescott,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Drew Brees. All of those guys performed worse in their
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: losses at least by that measurement than Sam Darnald. I
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: think Donald's getting a bad rap on this. Usually, if
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: you lose a playoff game, your quarterback probably played poorly,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: or that people around him caused the quarterback to play poorly.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: So I think he's getting a bad rap mic. I
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: don't know what your response is on that, but I
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: think there's some numbers to crystallize it.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say this, and I've said it from
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 11: day one that I'm in I'm in his corner. I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 11: think he's played well. You know, everyone will talk about
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 11: that for interception game, but you know he has played well.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 11: And Sam Donald, if they should not make it, Sam
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 11: Donald will not be the reason why. It'll be some
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 11: something else. And you talked about pressures, and that's that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 11: says it all to me. You know, there who's got
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 11: to Everyone has to play up their game. Every facet
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 11: of the football team has to up their game.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 8: It will not be his fault.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 11: He'll he'll get him there, and if he doesn't get
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 11: him there, we can look elsewhere.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 8: It's not gonna be him.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent. I'll tell
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: you one thing that won't get in his path, the
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs. So my one last thing is Patrick
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: Mahomes injured season over. What do you think about the
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs is the dynasty over coach.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 11: They're gonna have to retool, some retooling absolutely next year.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 11: I mean they're talking about Kelsey this being his last year.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 11: Pat now Mahomes won't be able to play this year
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 11: and he came. It's a pretty serious injury. So when
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 11: he'll come back, we'll wait and see. I hope, hope
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 11: he comes back as soon as possible.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 8: But Andy has some work to do.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 11: And you know, you saw it this year and really
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 11: the year before when they won the Super Bowl. I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 11: think he won eleven one score games, so it was
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 11: really close. And they've had a run of ten years
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 11: of winning the division and which is remarkable and so
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 11: but it happens. It happens to everybody, and then all
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 11: of a sudden, if you lose your quarterback or if
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 11: you lose and key players, you have to retool. And
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 11: I think they have to be really serious about doing
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 11: that this offseason.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: Do you think Andy would consider just saying, Okay, I'm
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna turn it over to Nagel or whomever
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: a younger buck and and and not out or would
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: would that like hurt his pride? That wait, you know
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: the one year Patrick tears his knee up, then I'm
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: gonna bail on the team. Like, where where do you
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: think his mindset is? He's certainly at an age where
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: nobody would think twice if he if he called it,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: you know, if you retired on a great career. But
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: where do you think he what do you think he's thinking?
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  Speaker 11: You know, I I asked him that when he came
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  Speaker 11: on the radio show with me once, and he's loving
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  Speaker 11: he loves football. Football is such a big part of
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  Speaker 11: his life. And uh, he says his health is good,
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  Speaker 11: and uh, I don't see it, Hugh. I think he's
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  Speaker 11: gonna stick with it. And if he were about out,
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  Speaker 11: I'd be very surprised because he's looking at I think
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  Speaker 11: I believe knowing him, he's looking at this as the
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  Speaker 11: challenge of Okay, where we slumped a little bit here,
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  Speaker 11: Now I got to get it back going again. And
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  Speaker 11: he said he wants to. He just signed a new
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  Speaker 11: deal for a pretty big contract and that won't be
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  Speaker 11: the absolute driving force, but he's got the quarterback's Patrick
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  Speaker 11: come back after his injury. I don't see him going No,
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  Speaker 11: I don't see him stepping away. I think Mahomes is
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  Speaker 11: just at the halfway point.
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  Speaker 4: I think that was just the end of the first
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  Speaker 4: half of Patrick Mahomes' career yesterday, and I think he's
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  Speaker 4: got ten more years, and who knows what they could
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  Speaker 4: do on that side. I'll just ask you in our
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  Speaker 4: last minute here, Josh Allen, doesn't that can't city in
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  Speaker 4: his way this year?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's got to get it done this year,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't he? Yeah, I went to the Super Bowl this year.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I you know, I picked Buffalo in the beginning,
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  Speaker 11: and then all of a sudden they played a little
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  Speaker 11: stretch there of games. I'm going, gee, there's a reason
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  Speaker 11: I don't gamble. There is a reason I don't gamble.
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  Speaker 11: But now all of a sudden, he's their fun to watch.
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  Speaker 11: He's fun to watch, boy, is he? He's very talented guy.
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  Speaker 3: You thank you this year? I certainly hope so if
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  Speaker 3: it's not gonna be Seattle, obviously, but but the Bills
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  Speaker 3: would be my second choice. I think Buffalo Bethalo, and
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  Speaker 3: the city has never had a parade. They've like the Braves,
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  Speaker 3: the Sabers, the Bills. Now they won an AFL title,
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  Speaker 3: but that was in an era when the NFL was
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  Speaker 3: clearly the superior, so they've never had a major championship parade.
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  Speaker 3: I think their fans deserve it. But Josh Allen, He's
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  Speaker 3: in my top three favorite quarterbacks I've ever seen in
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  Speaker 3: my life. I love I love his style, I love
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  Speaker 3: his competitiveness, I love his humility, his leadership. I just
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  Speaker 3: love everything about him. I mean, he's quarterback porn for me.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry Mike, but Chuck knows I go there from time
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  Speaker 3: to time. But I can't take my eyes off that dude.
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  Speaker 3: I just love his game and and you know, but
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  Speaker 3: but I think Mike Sean McDermott, I don't know I
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  Speaker 3: used to be I have I have really waned in
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  Speaker 3: my assessment of him. I mean, even like, how do
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  Speaker 3: you not how do you not challenge that play? Like
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  Speaker 3: like like you know, Raybo's boom, he's challenging, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and and and McDermott's just is like like the little
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  Speaker 3: things and the defense just never seems to support him,
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  Speaker 3: you know. The receiver corps is just vastly you know, incomplete.
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  Speaker 3: I think that that that on some level Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: could almost suit for malpractice, that some of the things
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  Speaker 3: that's happening around him. What do you think of Sean McDermott.
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  Speaker 11: Well, you know what, I like Sean McDermott, but I'm
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  Speaker 11: not I'm not gonna comment on that. What I'm gonna
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  Speaker 11: comment on is having a parade in Buffalo in February.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, they would do it.
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  Speaker 11: We won the we won the Super Bowl in Green Bay,
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  Speaker 11: and we had the parade and I lost one of
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  Speaker 11: my players on the bus from hypothermia. We had to
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  Speaker 11: put jackets on him, and sure true. And because it
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  Speaker 11: was an open air bus and everyone thought that was
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  Speaker 11: a good idea, and they didn't bring us our jackets
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  Speaker 11: at the airport when we got off. So we were
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  Speaker 11: supposed to do one last thing at the city center.
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  Speaker 11: I told the bus driver drive the stadium. We were
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  Speaker 11: supposed to, don't drive to the stadium. And we reared
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  Speaker 11: off and went to the stadium. Oh rough, it's hard, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Great stuff.
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  Speaker 4: As always, Monday Morning Quarterback Session comes to a close
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  Speaker 4: thanks to Mike Holgrin and Hugh Millan. We'll do it
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