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Welcome to the Lily Kincade Cinematic Universe #206 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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  I mean I posted 87 tik toks before 1 blew up.
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  Damn. 87 tik toks through the same like 12 second audio.
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  So this is a sign out there, like if you believe in
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  something, that's all you need. One of the subject matters of
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  this album? Like an actor.
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  What? Do you define actor as?
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  I guess it's somebody who calls who identifies themselves as an
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  actor. Sure.
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  Shady. Hello real Lulu's and welcome
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  back to Delulu. Today we are joined by a
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  supernova pop star and a true Tay daughter.
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  Shout out to my Swifty Lulu's The sparkly always sparkly Lily
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  Kincaid and I'm so fucking excited to join you in the LKCU,
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  the Lily Kincaid cinematic Universe and it is very
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  cinematic. It is very cinematic.
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  I'm so happy to be here. Hello to all of y'all and
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  welcome into the Kinkadian family.
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  You are officially a Kinkadian now.
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  Fun fact, I'm actually an OG Kinkadian and an OG Kincaidian
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  because I've been a big fan of Lily way before her debut album
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  Cinematic had even dropped, which it is dropping tonight.
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  And by the time you guys are listening to this show, it's
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  already out. So make sure you're streaming it
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  right after this. But you're going to hear all the
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  lore, everything behind the intentions and the songs and the
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  music and this entire project. I'm so excited to get into it
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  with you, especially because I'm such a big fucking fan and
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  obviously I love all your music and I love you.
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  We've known each other for a really long time, guys, so like.
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  It's super exciting. Met when I was releasing the
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  release night of one of my other favorite songs ever, real go
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  stream real, But it was just you know, it's just it's just crazy
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  how time does that. But it's so inspiring to get to
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  see you grow and, you know, use your gifts, like everyone has
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  gifts. And, you know, it takes a lot of
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  work. But if you keep working, you
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  know, eventually those dreams will happen.
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  And I feel like we're getting to grow and achieve our dreams
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  together, side by side, which is really sweet.
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  No, especially like watching you release Real, which Real is
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  literally I showed you when I ran into you at Grant's party.
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  It's on my favorite songs of all time playlist as as well as four
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  O 5, of course, but it is one of my favorite songs of all time.
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  And also that entire project, the EP that you put out with it,
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  Ellie doesn't miss me. Love, love, love, love.
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  And then watching you working on your debut album and it's
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  finally coming out because we met in 2021 and this album is
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  coming out now. And now we are here and I feel
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  like we've tried to hang out so much.
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  And like, I don't think we actually even started really
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  hanging out until like. Two months ago, I know.
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  Until recently, yes. But even.
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  Though we're kind of bad at it too.
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  Yeah, but everything happens at the right time, you know,
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  Everything happens at the right time.
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  You just have to trust. We're trusting it.
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  So Lily, we want to know everything about you.
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  We're going to get into the Lily lore, and it's a big part of
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  your story and where we are now. So I already know that you split
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  your time between LA and Nashville, but where were you
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  originally from? I'm originally from Kansas City.
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  Like Dorothy, yes, like Dorothy, Wizard of Oz.
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  But you know, I always say, like I had a normal childhood, you
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  know, suburbs, riding my bike. I was always into music, so I
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  was always playing guitar, piano.
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  I would do community theater. I was basically doing everything
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  I could. I knew eventually I was going to
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  have to go to California to pursue my dreams.
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  But growing up, I would say it was really influential because I
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  had a lot of time to, like, be by myself.
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  I played in nature. I was reading books every day.
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  I was able to almost like, shape my mind.
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  Now I see it because I was always, you know, inventing
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  stories and having invisible friends as a kid.
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  You know, there was no social media yet.
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  And like, looking back at it, having that childhood and being
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  able to, you know, run in the woods and hang out with friends
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  and, you know, go on the swing set, it allowed me to, like,
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  have a very imaginative inner world, which then correlates to
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  my songwriting. I was literally going to say
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  that reflects in your music because your lyrics are so
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  visual and they're very diary esque, which is what I fucking
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  love about them. I love music where it's like I
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  feel like I'm reading into someone's journal and I feel
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  like that's what your lyrics are.
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  And you know what's interesting about you?
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  I was going to save this for later in the show, but I'm going
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  to say it right now. But basically, you are so bright
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  and bubbly and you're so like lovely and sweet and you have
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  such high energy, but a lot of your music is so sad and I can't
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  even imagine you being sad. I can't, I imagine you not
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  smiling and being bright and like not feeling happy, which is
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  like, obviously you're allowed to feel sad, but I'm just like,
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  I can't even picture that in you.
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  I feel like I've only known you as someone who's like, excited
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  about life, you know? I always say, you know, it's the
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  depths of someone's happiness or I guess like the height of
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  someone's happiness is parallel to the depths of their sadness.
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  And so, you know, I feel like it was my assignment, it was my
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  mission to talk about these feelings and to turn them into
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  art so people can relate to them.
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  Because think about, it's like, you know, sometimes it's really
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  hard to be vulnerable. It's really hard to share how
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  you feel, you know, good things and bad things.
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  And if we keep our feelings to ourselves, like that's when
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  people get very isolated and lonely and depressed.
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  And, you know, we're so much more alike than we are
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  different. And so I feel like that's my
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  ultimate purpose with my songwriting is like to make
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  songs and stories out of the feelings that are either like
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  uncomfortable or like you're shameful, embarrassed about, you
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  don't want to talk about or the feelings that are hard to put
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  into words. And God has just given me this
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  gift of, you know. Making music and.
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  Then we can cry together because crying is very healing like.
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  I love a good cry. Yeah, I'm not really a big crier
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  and I wish I was because I feel like I would probably release a
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  lot of my pent up emotions. One day feeling, one day will
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  happen. Oh my God, I've been crying a
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  lot recently. That's good.
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  That's good. Crying is very healing.
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  It actually resets the nervous system.
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  OK, because I'd be needing that right now.
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  But I love what you said about like why you write and then
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  tension behind it, because that's actually how I feel about
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  a lot of your music. And specifically we were talking
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  about about it right before the show and I want to get really
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  deep into to it, but your song Nothing Like Me has been like
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  every lyric because I've been, I was going on my Instagram, I
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  want to post like little lyrics from it.
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  And I'm like, I can't even fucking choose because it's like
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  every verse and the chorus, just all of it good.
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  And they all like couplet so well.
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  But like that song really hits for me and we're going to
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  definitely talk about it. But.
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  So when did you end up moving to LA?
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  I moved to California when I was 14, right before I was going
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  into high school. And you're 24 now?
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  Yes. OK, so a Docky to go.
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  Which is like crazy. How have I been here for 10
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  years? Time is flying.
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  But you know, when I moved here, I had to like make the choice to
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  like sacrifice going to a normal high school.
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  Like I didn't, I didn't have a normal high school experience.
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  I was doing online school, online college, you know, and
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  Independent School. And it was, you know, yes, there
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  are some moments where I'm like, oh, I never got to have like,
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  you know, a prom or like normal high school experiences.
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  But at the same time, I'm so grateful because I got to really
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  pursue my craft. And 10 years later, it all paid
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  off because you have to go through those 10,000 hours.
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  I had to write so many bad songs before I ever started really
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  finding my voice. I'm grateful that I made the
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  sacrifices when I was younger to be where I am.
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  Now, I mean, to be honest, like that's how I feel too.
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  Like I'd rather sacrifice now versus like later in my life
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  regret not doing it or putting the time and work in because I
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  feel like a lot of people don't even realize.
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  Like it is so much especially for you.
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  You are a DIY queen. You have glitter glue and a
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  dream and you'd be making it happen for yourself.
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  But it's a lot. It really is a lot.
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  It's super overwhelming and especially being an indie artist
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  right now too. Yes.
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  And you're doing such a great job.
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  Thank you because it looks really good and the world
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  building that you do is so incredible.
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  Like I'm in Lily Kincaid's world when I listen to your music,
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  when I see your visuals, and when you do your videos, when
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  you're doing the songwriting process.
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  I watch all of them. I'm obsessed with them.
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  I love seeing how it grows, how it changes.
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  And some of these songs you've worked on for like years, like
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  it was starting like 2021 and then you'll finish in like
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  2023-2024. But that's one of the things I
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  love, I think. I think for me, you know, who I
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  am as an artist correlates to who I am as a person.
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  And you know, as you grow up, you go through things, you get
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  to know yourself better. And I feel like, you know, the
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  more you know yourself, at least for me, the more authentic my
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  music becomes because you know, you're and of course we're
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  growing and changing. I'm growing and changing.
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  But I always say like, I want my music to reflect, to reflect me.
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  Like I do say it is a diary. It is my feelings, it is my
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  thoughts. But I think that, you know, I
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  feel very lucky that I've had the time to know myself.
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  And that's like my number one piece of advice.
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  I'm like, spend time alone, spend time journaling, like
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  watch movies, develop your own taste because that has been the
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  biggest asset and help to me is like knowing what I like and
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  don't like in life. But then also in my music, I'm
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  able to be like, oh, I really love that sound.
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  Let's put that in a song or like, oh, I really love this
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  visual. I want to shoot something like
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  that again, which I think, you know, I'm glad that it it
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  translates. It really does.
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  And honestly, like you are so vulnerable.
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  Like your music's so hard on your sleeve.
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  And like, I think a lot of artists these days love being
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  like mysterious and like, like, oh, I don't know what's coming
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  next. But I really love that you just
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  bear it all. Like, especially like with
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  everything you do with the post that you do, your social media,
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  how much you connect with your, but then also on your website
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  with your blogs that you do and the literal journal entry scans,
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  which I am such a nosy motherfucker.
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  I love reading that shit. Let me know everything you're
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  feeling. And you do.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I feel like no secrets with Lily Kincaid.
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  I feel like that's how you're presenting.
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  Yourself because it's like you know and it's like yeah, I do
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  have secrets but it's like this part of my life the.
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  Name is secret right now. But it's feel like I feel like
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  it's a lot of and I feel like emotionally, you know, that's
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  something that was hard for me. And so my outlet is music.
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  And so that's how I knew that like I was put on this earth.
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  This is one of my assignments I have to do because, you know, it
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  is uncomfortable. I was always the person that was
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  like, I need to keep it together.
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  I need to be there for all my friends.
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  I have to be there supporting other people that I could never
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  like. I my life is so amazing.
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  I'm so fortunate. I'm so lucky to get to, you
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  know, do what I love that I shouldn't be sad.
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  And for a long time I like wouldn't let myself be sad.
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  So you felt guilty about? Yeah, I felt guilty because I'm
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  like, you know what? Like I have it so well, like
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  I've always been able to, you know, like, appreciate and be
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  grateful, like. Just in a little.
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  Yeah, but music for me was like almost like my safety, my safety
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  outlet of like being able to release things and then not
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  having anyone judge me for them. And I don't know people.
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  Are embracing it really well, too well.
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  What were some inspirations for you like musically growing up?
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  I know we're Swifty's, we're both massive Taylor Swift fans,
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  shout Tay Tay. I'm so excited.
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  I you know what? I feel so lucky.
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  We had such great music inspirations.
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  Growing up, the 20. 10s like it was so good we had Disney
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  Channel Hannah Montana. That was my first concert was
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  the Hannah Montana Best of Both Worlds tour which.
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  Was Selena Gomez. Oh, that Selena Gomez in the
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  scene. Yes, so good.
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  Like, so good. But I listened to a lot of that
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  Taylor Swift. Obviously, I started listening
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  to Lana Del Rey because I also grew up dancing.
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  And I remember the first time I heard a Lana Del Rey song, I
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  think I was in lyric lyrical class or contemporary class.
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  And we were doing a dance to Diet Mountain Dew.
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  And I went home and purchased the song on iTunes.
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  And my dad, like, sent me a picture of the, like a
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  screenshot of the iTunes receipt recently actually.
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  And I just thought that was so funny because I, I don't know,
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  like, I just feel so lucky to grow up with.
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  Yeah, such good inspiration. And I was also a big reader to
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  growing up, like listen to a lot of music.
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  But I also really loved like, reading every single fiction
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  book I could find. Every, you know, everything was
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  so good back then. We had like all the dystopian
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  series. It was like the peak of like
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  Hunger Games, Divergent. There's just so much like.
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  You're taking me back, girl. Yeah, it was just so exciting.
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  It felt like everything was so like new.
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  Yeah, I mean, honestly, those influences are really strong on
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  you because like Lana Del Rey and like Taylor Swift, like
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  really into lyricism and also storytelling, and also you being
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  a big reader because your music is so storytelling.
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  Very ingrained in storytelling and it shows.
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  And I think that's what people resonate with with you too.
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  So you know how you had your listen to this in your car?
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  That was like your original username on TikTok a couple
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  years ago. So a lot of the music I feel
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  like that you have like when I first discovered you, I was only
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  listening to you in the car when it was like real and like sweet
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  and low and it was like at my funeral.
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  Oh wait, these are deep cuts, by the way.
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  These are old songs. Wait it was it was one of those
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  songs like 5 years anniversary recently I.
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  Think yes, sweet and low. The first thing I put out, Yes.
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  Isn't that crazy? Yeah, and now debut album five
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  years later. And that's just wild.
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  Like, it just, it's like time is going to, I realize this time is
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  going to go by anyways. So you have nothing to lose by
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  trying something and putting yourself out there.
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  Just do it. And for years I'd be like, oh,
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  well, I don't have, I don't have good enough songs to release
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  now. I don't have this.
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  I don't have a whole team. I don't have this.
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  And at a certain point, you just got to be like, you know what?
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  No, I'm going to use everything I have and make make the best
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  situation. Yeah.
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  Like do the most that you can with whatever you have.
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  Yeah. Just do it.
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  I absolutely agree with that. And actually, I'm happy that you
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  mentioned that because like part of that era of music that you're
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  releasing at the time was real, which is honestly, I want to say
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  probably one of your, I want to say it's your magnum opus, but
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  obviously I love 405. There's like so many, but I know
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  I'm like at every single concert I'm going to have to sing that
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  song and I love that. Like honestly, it's a perfect
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  song. No real the Lily Kincaid song
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  and it actually is about a hit 10 million streams.
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  Crazy. How insane is that?
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  I remember when you fucking released it.
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  I was like, this is a hit. This is it.
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  You actually, you convinced me. And I love how much you believe
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  in yourself because it convinces other people to believe in you
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  too, because you release Reel and remember you made so many
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  TikTok to me, like this is a song that's going to put me on
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  the map. This is a song that's going to
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  be known as an artist. This is a song that's going to
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  have people like actually start paying attention.
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  And it is. I mean I posted 87 tik toks
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  before 1 blew up. Damn. 87 tik toks through the
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  same like 12 second audio. So this is a sign up there.
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  Like if you believe in something, that's all you need.
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  You know, people believe in your belief because music is
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  subjective. Taste is subjective.
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  So like, as long as you create stuff that you like that you
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  want to put out that you are passionate about, that is how
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  you know other people are going to see that.
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  Like I always say, like I make music that I want to listen to,
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  so why would I not keep talking about it?
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  And until every single ear has heard of Lily Kincaid's music,
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  you know, it's new to them. Even if something is five years
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  old. You got to promote it and you
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  got to promote yourself. Exactly.
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  There's a lot of shame. I feel like people feel like
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  it's cringy to promote themselves.
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  I print what the fuck out of Tulu, which is the show.
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  I just feel like I'm proud of it and I feel like I should be
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  promoted. And who else is going to promote
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  it? If you don't believe in
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  yourself, how are other people going to believe?
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  In you exactly you. Know what I mean?
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  Also, with the algorithm and everything, it's like not
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  everyone's going to see it anyway.
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  Exactly. And also too, it's like at the
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  end of the day, you know, it is great.
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  Like I feel like in our day and age, you know, you can't get
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  overwhelmed with all of the numbers and algorithms and
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  everything's changing. So I have to like consistently
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  remind myself, you know what? At the end of the day, if this
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  reaches one person, if one person hears this song and it
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  helps them or makes them feel less alone or changes them or
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  gives them comfort in a moment, then like I did my job.
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  It's like if one person listens to this podcast and suddenly has
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  like the inspiration to go after their dreams or suddenly feels
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  like, Oh my gosh, I didn't know that that person felt the same
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  way. Like that is the purpose of what
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  we're doing. I love that so much because
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  honestly, that was my intention when it began.
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  Social media in general and the content I make was like, I was
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  like, I just want to connect. And like I always said, like if
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  it changes one person's life and they feel better, they feel
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  different, they feel seen, they feel heard, then it's worthwhile
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  to keep doing this because it's like a hard industry and being a
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  content creator. Because then honestly, you can't
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  just be an artist and you wear so many hats by the way, you do
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  so many things outside of being artist, but you also have to be
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  a content creator. Like it's a part of what you do
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  and you're really good at. You have so many clips, you're
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  good at documenting your life. I wish I could do what you do.
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  You have so much B roll too. So I'm like, I don't know.
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  I think I have like 168,000 photos or something on my phone,
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  which is like really overwhelming.
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  You would think it'd be amazing, but I don't know.
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  I'm always one. I was always the person taking
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  photos even like, you know, years ago I would always when it
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  was like not cool. Now it's like cool.
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  Like you see people walking around doing like vlogging or
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  taking selfies. Remember like years ago when it
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  was like, Oh my God, why are you taking a selfie?
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  Like no, I was always like, no, I want to capture memories.
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  Like I make hard copy scrapbooks as.
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  Every. Year scrapbookers, Yes, because
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  I'm like my photos going to the cloud.
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  But what if the cloud goes away like?
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  Totally. We I'm so excited for the Dulu
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  page in your scrapbook this year.
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  We will have one, yes, and I will send you a picture.
• 15:17
  OK. And then we're gonna like think
• 15:18
  back to this. We can like post a clip of right
• 15:20
  now and then show the show the scrapbook page.
• 15:22
  And we're honestly having a really good day.
• 15:23
  I'm having so much fun of you because we did a bunch of things
• 15:25
  right before shooting this and we're having so much fun.
• 15:27
  We're gonna do more things after this too, and we're gonna plan
• 15:30
  stuff. But I'm having a great time with
• 15:32
  you. This is so much fun.
• 15:33
  Me too. Well, I want to talk about reel
• 15:35
  love, love, love, love, love. Reel type.
• 15:37
  Take us back to writing that song.
• 15:39
  You knew it was special, so and what was real?
• 15:42
  How did that come about? I love that song.
• 15:44
  So my reel is one of the songs on my second.
• 15:47
  EPLA doesn't miss me and I had just written the title track.
• 15:51
  LA doesn't Miss Me on my 19th birthday, February 18th.
• 15:53
  I read that journal entry, by the way.
• 15:56
  And then I I went back to Nashville and Reel was like the
• 15:58
  first songwriting session I had with two amazing writers, Casey
• 16:02
  Brown and Sam Gray. And we were just talking about
• 16:04
  this. I'd played them.
• 16:05
  LA doesn't miss me. I was like, why am I feeling
• 16:06
  this way? Like it feels like, like I, I
• 16:10
  left LA for a week and then everything changed.
• 16:12
  Like this is so crazy. I was talking about, you know,
• 16:14
  boy drama at the time, and I just kept saying, like, it felt
• 16:18
  so weird because like, I just felt like it wasn't real.
• 16:21
  And I just remember we were like, Oh my gosh, that's a great
• 16:23
  song. And we just started writing.
• 16:25
  And we ended up writing I think the whole song that day and then
• 16:28
  making like, a demo a couple days later.
• 16:29
  Like, I love taking my time with songs.
• 16:31
  I love, you know, sitting on it, like listening to it in the car,
• 16:34
  like listening to it while I go on a walk.
• 16:36
  And not rushing anything. Yeah, because I feel like it's
• 16:37
  very, you know, it's like similar to love.
• 16:39
  It's like when you know, you know, in terms of like when
• 16:42
  you're writing a song or anything creative, like there's
• 16:44
  no right or wrong, which is kind of the overwhelming part.
• 16:47
  But I just knew like this song was really special.
• 16:50
  And so like, that's why I didn't put it on my first EP because it
• 16:52
  wasn't the vibe. I was like, no, this is a whole
• 16:54
  separate project. But the sound of it too ended up
• 16:57
  just turning out amazing. And my amazing producer Kyle
• 17:00
  Jefferson, who did that, like the vibes of it are just
• 17:03
  timeless, timeless classic. Wait is this the same Kyle that
• 17:05
  did most of cinematic? Yes, shout out Kyle, love your
• 17:08
  work. Kyle, we love you.
• 17:09
  Love your work. Actually.
• 17:11
  That's so incredible. And you called it 'cause you
• 17:13
  knew this song was special, too. Yeah.
• 17:15
  And that song is like, the thing about it is like, I feel like if
• 17:18
  we get into the territory of like, people being cast lighters
• 17:21
  or whatever, because like, you know, you say, like you can say
• 17:24
  you don't feel the way. Yeah, 100 pocket.
• 17:28
  And, you know, it's exciting. Like this is like an this is an
• 17:30
  exclusive. That's a little exclusive.
• 17:31
  Love it go. OK, so it's going to be 5 years
• 17:33
  old this in 2026, right? And so I love that song so much.
• 17:38
  And I've been like writing so many verses.
• 17:39
  So I'm trying, I'm working on writing like a extended version.
• 17:42
  I don't know if it'll be exactly 10 minutes, but something really
• 17:44
  fun and like, yeah. Oh my God, we're.
• 17:47
  Sending it. OK, because I asked you when I
• 17:50
  saw you a couple weeks ago, because Lily just performed at
• 17:52
  the Hotel Cafe Mina and I went and I was like why is real not
• 17:56
  on cinematic? And you were like it was a
• 17:59
  different. Yeah, different era, but it's
• 18:01
  still timeless. You teased something with it.
• 18:03
  You're like. But, you know, we got something
• 18:05
  for the real stands, so yeah. Because it is like, because I
• 18:08
  believe that song is so timeless.
• 18:09
  And I kept writing verses to it. Like, I just kept writing
• 18:12
  because I was like, oh, my gosh, this situation happened again.
• 18:15
  Yeah. Or like it happened with another
• 18:16
  person. Like, even as an artist, it's
• 18:18
  like you can relate multiple songs to different people in
• 18:21
  your life, you know, as you grow up and as you, you know, go
• 18:23
  through things. But yeah, I'm excited for that.
• 18:26
  I just can't believe it's going to be fun.
• 18:27
  Five years old, I remember. When you literally released it,
• 18:30
  we went live together. That was our first hangout.
• 18:32
  On TikTok I was literally living at my parents house in my
• 18:35
  childhood bedroom. Isn't that crazy?
• 18:38
  That's crazy. Life is so different now too.
• 18:40
  Cuz you have that screenshot of us.
• 18:42
  Yes. OK, we're gonna queue it up
• 18:43
  right here. Okay, so I hate this picture of
• 18:47
  me, but yeah, no, things are so different now.
• 18:51
  And also such a fucking baby back then.
• 18:53
  I feel like you look exactly the same, which is like because you
• 18:56
  were 19. Yeah, but it's like sometimes I
• 18:58
  missed that. I'm like, I missed that like,
• 19:01
  but I've realized that it's like, you know what, you can
• 19:03
  spend your whole life wishing you were in a different season
• 19:05
  when you're in a current season and just reminding myself of
• 19:09
  that, like time is going to go anyways.
• 19:10
  Like to really try and be as present as possible.
• 19:13
  And yes, you want to be smart and you want to think ahead and
• 19:15
  you want to make sure you're doing little steps every single
• 19:18
  day that you know are working towards your goals.
• 19:20
  But don't forget, like the whole purpose of life is to like, love
• 19:23
  others and to use your gifts and to, you know, you know, make,
• 19:27
  make other people feel good and, and yeah, and use your purpose.
• 19:30
  You know, one of my favorite things is like, I knew I was
• 19:33
  meant to be a songwriter and a storyteller because when I write
• 19:36
  a song, like it's almost, I could be so exhausted at the end
• 19:40
  of like a writing day if I'm writing for like 10 hours or
• 19:43
  something. But I like, feel like I've used
• 19:46
  up everything inside of me. Like I feel like I gave all that
• 19:48
  I had to give. And there's just something
• 19:50
  really like special about that. Yeah, and it comes across from
• 19:53
  your music and I feel like especially with this album.
• 19:56
  So we are here today because you have released your debut album,
• 20:00
  Cinematic Crazy. And cinematic, that is the
• 20:03
  perfect word for it. Even before I heard I was
• 20:04
  talking to you a couple weeks ago, I was like, cinematic is.
• 20:08
  Yeah, and no, people are like, how does describe the album?
• 20:10
  I'm like cinematic, cinematic. It's a perfect title track.
• 20:13
  It's like I couldn't even, it's crazy.
• 20:15
  Like I could not even have planned that better.
• 20:17
  I always say like, I love having a theme.
• 20:19
  You know, growing up on Taylor and Lana, I'm like, I've
• 20:22
  studied, I've studied. I love having a theme that way,
• 20:25
  you know, who knows what album 2 album 3 is going to be like?
• 20:28
  It gives me like it's you're. Pretty this world and this is
• 20:31
  the world of cinematic and actually I love this concept so
• 20:34
  much because the album opens with behind the scenes and then
• 20:37
  we go into Cinematic and it closes with Mr. Hollywood.
• 20:41
  There's a very defined through line here with cinematic.
• 20:44
  So you wrote this album over the course of a couple years too, So
• 20:47
  some songs was that release that you ran for this album?
• 20:50
  You 405 405 is actually the very first song that I wrote I'm.
• 20:55
  Fucking happy you put it on the album isn't.
• 20:57
  That crazy? Yes that is so crazy.
• 20:59
  That is one of my favorite songs of all fucking time.
• 21:01
  I think it is my number one most played song last year.
• 21:04
  I'm gonna have to check my Spotify.
• 21:05
  Like when we reconnected at our friend's birthday party, he
• 21:08
  pulls up his phone and it's like, wait, I was listening to
• 21:10
  405 on the way here and Lily was still like, playing.
• 21:13
  Oh my God. So this is I have a crazy
• 21:15
  manifestation story. All this is actually fucking
• 21:17
  insane. So Victoria and I were in my car
• 21:19
  and we were going to Grant's birthday party.
• 21:22
  And then I was like, I want to play you some music.
• 21:23
  And I played four O 5 for him and he was he loved it.
• 21:25
  And then I was like, I love her. I want her on the show.
• 21:28
  And he was like, when you like ask her to be on the show.
• 21:30
  And I was like, I think I will. But it's just like there's a lot
• 21:32
  of decisions that go into it's not, it's not as easy as just
• 21:34
  like, Oh, I want this person. I'm going to have them on, which
• 21:36
  I know it sounds like it should be, but there's a lot of
• 21:38
  decision that goes into and I was like, I really want her on
• 21:40
  the show because like I know her and I love her and I love her
• 21:42
  music forever. I love four O 5 And I was
• 21:44
  playing it. We were like bopping to it.
• 21:46
  We go to Grant's birthday party. And then I walk up the stairs.
• 21:50
  And they're the fuck. You were on the roof and I
• 21:51
  walked up the stairs and I was like.
• 21:52
  Yeah, I like grabbed Victoria and I was like, shut the fuck
• 21:54
  up. I was like, that's her.
• 21:55
  Like I was like Lily, what the fuck?
• 21:58
  That's like, whoa, yeah, that's. Crazy pulled my phone out like
• 22:01
  look what we were listening to on the way to this party and it
• 22:04
  was 405 and I was like and stay here.
• 22:06
  Look at my other playlist that I was listening to my favorite
• 22:08
  songs of all time playlist which are my favorite songs of all
• 22:10
  time. I was like real, a bunch of
• 22:12
  other songs, 405 and there we go.
• 22:14
  I was like, that's a sign. Come on my show.
• 22:16
  And you said yes. Crazy.
• 22:18
  Though isn't that so crazy? That's insane.
• 22:21
  No, I manifested that. Yeah, that's so crazy.
• 22:23
  But you know what happens when you're?
• 22:26
  It's like things will fall into place and you have to just
• 22:28
  trust. That's the scary part about life
• 22:30
  in general. But it should be like that.
• 22:32
  You shouldn't know how everything's going to go because
• 22:33
  that's you're not, you know, you're not outside of your
• 22:35
  comfort zone. You're not growing.
• 22:36
  You have to be growing. Oh, that's a great reminder for
• 22:39
  me because I feel like I need to know everything and have control
• 22:41
  of everything. So I kind of like that you said
• 22:43
  that because I actually felt a little wave of relief where I'm
• 22:45
  like, you know what, it's fine. Like we're wing it, whatever,
• 22:47
  we'll take it day by day. So that's where we are right
• 22:50
  now. And where we are right now is
• 22:51
  the album is fucking out. How do we?
• 22:53
  Feel I feel really excited and nervous and happy and
• 22:58
  overwhelmed. But also too, I love it because
• 23:00
  I'm like, you know what, I've lived with these songs.
• 23:02
  I've listened to these songs so many times, you know, through my
• 23:05
  Dropbox folder. And I just feel so excited now
• 23:07
  because it's like I get to share them.
• 23:09
  And, you know, that's the best part of music is like getting to
• 23:11
  relate to experiences together, like having people DM me.
• 23:14
  Oh my gosh, I went through the exact same situation.
• 23:15
  This is crazy. And then being like me too,
• 23:18
  like. It just feels so.
• 23:19
  Good. It just feels so good to, you
• 23:20
  know, like because at the end of the day, we're more similar.
• 23:24
  We are different and music is just like a such a beautiful
• 23:27
  tool and it's a universal language and I don't know, it's
• 23:30
  just so like healing and I love it.
• 23:32
  So I was talking to another songwriter the other day.
• 23:34
  So I have, like, these two artists who are living with me
• 23:36
  right now. You've met them, Nathan.
• 23:37
  Yeah. But they keep having sessions in
• 23:40
  the living room and I keep talking to the the people
• 23:43
  they're ringing in. And someone mentioned, I don't
• 23:44
  even remember who, but they were like, they were like talking
• 23:47
  about the music. And they're like, these lyrics
• 23:48
  are a little too specific. I think it needs to be a little
• 23:50
  more like vague and ambiguous for the audience or for the
• 23:53
  listener. And I was like, I, and I said I
• 23:55
  chimed in and I was like, I personally resonate deeper with,
• 23:58
  even if I don't relate, but I want to know like, exactly what
• 24:00
  this person was going through. I want to know names.
• 24:04
  I want everything. Yeah, I'm nosy as fuck.
• 24:06
  I want to be like, what happened?
• 24:08
  Take me there. And that's the music I feel like
• 24:10
  I resonate the most with, which is why I feel so drawn to your
• 24:13
  music because it's so specific. And you know what?
• 24:16
  You are a big fan of name dropping months in your songs.
• 24:19
  Yeah, I actually this is like a thing I wanted to do continue
• 24:22
  this. I wanted like have I don't have
• 24:23
  all of the months yet, but I want to have a song that has
• 24:25
  every month tonight. I have like, you know, every
• 24:28
  single month in a song. In the one song.
• 24:31
  No, just like in general in my discography.
• 24:32
  Got it. Okay, well, you already have
• 24:34
  February covered and got old. You have November covered and
• 24:36
  let me leave. Let's go.
• 24:38
  You have June and September in three months and you're still in
• 24:41
  August? Wait.
• 24:42
  August in September in August and September?
• 24:45
  I have not heard that song. So.
• 24:46
  It's so. Good.
• 24:47
  OK, well you were name dropping the months and I'm actually
• 24:50
  curious why three months didn't make it on the album.
• 24:52
  Three months because I already put that out.
• 24:54
  So I was like, OK, that's a different era, a different
• 24:56
  chapter. Those were.
• 24:57
  Yeah. And so I was like, we need some
• 24:59
  new ones. Like still like people think
• 25:01
  because I'm like, OK, I wrote this album from ages 20 to 23.
• 25:05
  Like, that's a lot. That's a very influential time.
• 25:06
  Like there are multiple, like, heartbreaks.
• 25:08
  So it's like the album's about multiple different people and
• 25:10
  like my experiences with different people.
• 25:11
  But like, still in August, it's about the same person that I
• 25:14
  wrote three months about. Yeah, that's the only one on
• 25:17
  that on on the album. And how many relationships is
• 25:19
  this album spanning? It's like 3.
• 25:22
  Three and I, you always tell me this, but you're like they
• 25:24
  always come back so like, yeah, you're having a little little
• 25:26
  repeat moments over here. OK, we love that.
• 25:29
  So your songwriting process. I love the songwriting videos
• 25:32
  that you do and like literally we, I think we talked about it
• 25:34
  before the show, but like where you show where the song is
• 25:36
  conceived and then taking it all the way to like when you
• 25:40
  finalize it and you put it out, like I love that you're doing
• 25:42
  that, like taking us behind the curtain and.
• 25:44
  Showing us because I love it, too.
• 25:46
  But it's lost art. Yeah.
• 25:47
  And, you know, like, as a songwriter, like when I was
• 25:49
  younger, I would scour the Internet.
• 25:50
  I would be reading like J14 and all these magazines.
• 25:53
  I loved knowing it because, you know, it's something where, you
• 25:56
  know, you don't often see it, but I think the creative process
• 25:59
  is so magical because it's never the same.
• 26:01
  It's never the same. And there's so much beauty in it
• 26:02
  because I don't know, like, watching other people's creative
• 26:06
  process or like when Taylor Swift would do her, you know,
• 26:08
  little like, deluxe voice memo. And.
• 26:10
  Yes, yes, like it made me feel so like wow, like it just felt I
• 26:14
  connected to it so much more because I was like wow, like I
• 26:16
  can do it. Like it can turn into a real
• 26:18
  song and I just find it so cool because I'm like, I never know
• 26:21
  how I'm going to write the next song.
• 26:22
  Sometimes I'm just sitting down at the piano.
• 26:25
  Sometimes I like am driving and I get an idea.
• 26:26
  Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night with an
• 26:28
  idea. And so I love just documenting
• 26:31
  it and showing the creation process because I'm usually
• 26:33
  turning something like, you know, a bad feeling or like
• 26:36
  feeling alone or a negative experience into something
• 26:38
  beautiful. And so even document documenting
• 26:40
  it and making it helps me feel like wow, like I am getting
• 26:44
  something from this situation and like I'm going to heal and
• 26:46
  be stronger from it. Right.
• 26:48
  And I feel like when you're open and vulnerable like that, like
• 26:50
  that's where you know people are going to connect with you and
• 26:52
  find you. Yes, I think you've actually
• 26:54
  said this yourself. It's like you want to be
• 26:56
  yourself and the right people will find you for.
• 26:58
  That yes, yeah, vulnerability is a superpower.
• 27:01
  Absolutely. I used to like, like I was
• 27:02
  saying earlier, like hide my feelings or feel like, oh, I
• 27:04
  can't say, like I'm hurt or I'm sad by that.
• 27:07
  But no, like being vulnerable and expressing your emotions is
• 27:10
  so powerful because it also encourages others to express how
• 27:13
  they feel. And you know, like, if you just
• 27:15
  keep all your feelings inside, like the lyrics of 405 say, you
• 27:18
  know, it's like you're never. Going to Yeah.
• 27:21
  You have to be able to express your real.
• 27:22
  You have to be yourself if you want to find people that like
• 27:24
  you. If you are being fake and you
• 27:26
  are not being your authentic self, how do you expect friends
• 27:29
  to really love you for who they are, for who you are, when
• 27:31
  they've never seen the real you? Wait, I.
• 27:33
  Want to talk about 4:05? So I love that song so fucking
• 27:35
  much. It's literally anthemic.
• 27:38
  It's big, it's a banger. That chorus hits and the bridge
• 27:42
  is like the most euphoric thing I've ever experienced in my
• 27:45
  life. It's like a dopamine hit for me
• 27:47
  when that bridge hits like. Have you seen The Perks of being
• 27:50
  a Wallflower? No.
• 27:51
  Wait, you have to watch that movie?
• 27:53
  I don't consume anything. We talked about this.
• 27:55
  Because OK, there's a scene. Some of you all listeners will
• 27:57
  probably know there's a scene and Perks of Being a Wallflower.
• 27:59
  Yeah, and it's they're driving on a truck through like
• 28:02
  underneath a highway. You know, when they have like
• 28:04
  the lights and they like put their hands on, that's like an
• 28:06
  iconic. Yes, that.
• 28:07
  And well, because like 4 or 5 was crazy because I love Lala
• 28:11
  Land. Lala Land's on my favorite
• 28:13
  movie. And I also love like The Great
• 28:14
  Gatsby, like in terms of like vibe.
• 28:16
  That was one of my favorite movies because I love Young and
• 28:19
  Beautiful by Lana Del Rey. And I watched the movie so many
• 28:21
  times because I love the soundtrack, but I wanted to
• 28:23
  create a song that felt kind of like that vibe that was like
• 28:26
  very anthemic, like you were saying very much like, you know
• 28:29
  what, I just want to celebrate life and I just want to feel
• 28:31
  free and feel very like cinematic, very movie like.
• 28:34
  And so like that bridge was specifically, you know, I saw
• 28:37
  that scene in Perks of being a Wallflower where it's like
• 28:40
  they're out the window, like in the back of the truck, like just
• 28:42
  like loving it. I love that.
• 28:44
  I love. Coming of age things and like
• 28:46
  this is such a coming of age album, by the way, but I love
• 28:49
  coming of age films and movies like that.
• 28:50
  So like I'm definitely going to check that out, especially that
• 28:52
  visual that you should mention. Like I see that for the bridge
• 28:54
  of four O 5 yes, like. You're going to love it.
• 28:58
  I mean, this song is everything. And so I'm curious about it
• 29:00
  because basically you're talking about like, let's say the
• 29:04
  world's ending, right? It's like you're saying like you
• 29:07
  don't want to be scared. You're going to confess how you
• 29:08
  feel. And that's four O 5.
• 29:10
  Yeah, which is crazy. Yeah, which is crazy.
• 29:13
  But at the end of the day, it's like, you know what?
• 29:14
  Why not? Yeah, sometimes you have to
• 29:16
  like, get that courage. Huge fan of telling people I
• 29:18
  feel yeah and I always. Tell people how I feel and my
• 29:20
  thing is like I always tell people how I feel, but like in
• 29:22
  song like I'll just like send somebody a song really and I'll
• 29:24
  be like. I've never experienced that
• 29:26
  someone write me a song and send it to me.
• 29:29
  I would love to. Because it's like crazy though,
• 29:31
  but I genuinely sometimes cannot.
• 29:32
  Like I'll try to talk and I'll be like, I have nothing.
• 29:35
  I can't, like, I can't say it. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm choked
• 29:37
  up. But I can like write a song.
• 29:39
  Really. Yeah.
• 29:40
  Oh my God. Wait, did you send was four or
• 29:41
  five for someone? No, that was just like, you
• 29:44
  know, in general, like. Totally.
• 29:46
  That's what I was thinking because I was like, then the
• 29:48
  chorus gets really celebratory, you know what I mean?
• 29:50
  Because I think it starts like the verses are very relationship
• 29:52
  based. Yes, yes.
• 29:54
  And then also I love that concept of just like, why the
• 29:56
  hell am I keeping these feelings aside?
• 29:57
  Which is so true. And it's like, I'm a huge, huge,
• 30:00
  huge, huge fan of like always expressing how I feel to people.
• 30:02
  Like I just think it's a waste of time not to.
• 30:04
  Yeah, like, and it's like, you know what, If anything, you're
• 30:08
  expressing your feelings for you.
• 30:10
  Yeah. Everyone's allowed to feel
• 30:11
  however they want to feel, but why not?
• 30:13
  I would much rather be the person that's like, you know,
• 30:15
  vulnerable and goes out there and expresses my feelings and
• 30:18
  then gets rejected, then always wonder what if and always will
• 30:21
  have regrets in the back of my. Mind not trying to know what
• 30:23
  ifs. I don't want no regrets that's
• 30:24
  why I tell people how I feel. I just like go for it because at
• 30:26
  the end of the day, I'd rather like either be rejected or no,
• 30:29
  then sit there and be like, well, what if I just said this
• 30:33
  or it's just like. I'd rather be thinking and like,
• 30:35
  no, we don't want to be caught up in.
• 30:37
  That no, definitely not, and I'm such an overthinker as in
• 30:39
  general anyways. But I fucking love 405.
• 30:41
  And fun fact, you actually began that song on April 5th, which is
• 30:44
  405. Isn't that crazy?
• 30:46
  Was that intentional? No, because I looked at my voice
• 30:49
  memos because that day was like me and my Co writer Matthew
• 30:53
  Morrissey. We were just kind of vibing
• 30:55
  around, not like writing anything specific and we came up
• 30:58
  with this idea. It was only about half formed
• 31:00
  and then we were like, there's something really good here.
• 31:02
  Like something like we were just like, you just know, right?
• 31:04
  You just know, you feel it. And I remember, you know, all
• 31:07
  throughout that summer we were listening to it just kind of
• 31:09
  being like, oh, there's something magical here.
• 31:11
  And then at the end of the summer, we got in the studio
• 31:13
  with Kyle and the rest of the song just formed so quickly
• 31:16
  together. So it took, you know, a couple
• 31:18
  months to fully write the song. But I was looking back at the
• 31:21
  voice memos and I was like April 5th, which is weird.
• 31:23
  And it's called Four O 5 because of the four O 5 freeway in
• 31:25
  California, for those of you who don't know, but it's also April
• 31:28
  5th. And I was like, whoa, that's
• 31:29
  weird. No, that's crazy.
• 31:31
  Another another full circle moment too.
• 31:33
  Yeah. So I love Four O 5, one of my
• 31:35
  favorites. But I was telling you before the
• 31:36
  show started, I was like, you know what I think is going to
• 31:38
  inch out Four O 5 for me right now when your discography is
• 31:41
  nothing like me. I love nothing like me.
• 31:43
  Like the lyrics. I relate to it so deeply.
• 31:46
  And we talked about it because I asked you just personally, I was
• 31:48
  like, so you're describing another girl who doesn't do all
• 31:50
  these things. And it's literally you just
• 31:53
  saying I am, not that I am, I'm the opposite.
• 31:56
  It's the person I wish I was. You know, you ever have those
• 31:59
  things where, like, I wish I could be the cool girl.
• 32:01
  I wish I could be chill. I wish I could not care.
• 32:03
  But I do. And instead of fighting it and
• 32:05
  pretending, you know what? I'm just gonna embrace that, you
• 32:07
  know, that's not like me. I'm gonna be crazy and.
• 32:10
  Period. I love it.
• 32:11
  If anything is like, embracing, it actually helps you process
• 32:14
  things, yeah. Oh my God, I literally love
• 32:16
  nothing like me. You've said that this is your
• 32:19
  like cry dance song, and that's my favorite kind of music right
• 32:21
  now. Like, I just want to be able to
• 32:23
  feel everything but also have it be like a really big Bob too,
• 32:26
  yes. Because you can like, that's how
• 32:28
  you get out your emotions. I love like happy or like sad
• 32:32
  lyrics but happy music. That makes sense, yes I fucking
• 32:36
  love that and I think my favorite lyric in this song,
• 32:38
  I've told you this before but is that she doesn't sip on memories
• 32:41
  like a watered down coke. That is so beautiful.
• 32:43
  Thank you. That's that's the lyric that
• 32:45
  started the song, actually, because I was, I literally
• 32:47
  remember this. I was driving home from the
• 32:49
  Grove in California and I some Like I said, it's different
• 32:52
  every time I write a song. I.
• 32:52
  Was just out the Grove. I love the Grove, it always
• 32:54
  feels like Christmas when I'm there.
• 32:56
  It just always gives like Christmas vibes.
• 32:57
  Oh, my God, It was beautiful. It's pretty there.
• 32:59
  Yeah. I took my ex.
• 33:01
  Oh, she came from out of town and we went to the Grove.
• 33:03
  Oh. I love that though.
• 33:04
  Yeah, it was cute anyways. So you came anyways?
• 33:06
  Yeah. I was driving home from the
• 33:07
  Grove. Yeah.
• 33:08
  And I literally in my head, it was just like, I saw this image.
• 33:10
  Yeah, of a girl. And she was sipping like a
• 33:12
  vintage Coke bottle. You know, the, like, clear ones.
• 33:15
  I like vintagey. Like, I'm looking.
• 33:16
  He sat at the window and I was like, you know, going through
• 33:18
  something with a guy. I was just like feeling
• 33:20
  emotional, but I wrote that in my phone.
• 33:21
  I was like sipping memories, like a watered down coke, like
• 33:24
  still thinking on memories, like still, you know, holding on
• 33:26
  tightly to things and like trying to make him last even
• 33:29
  though it's like no time is moving by.
• 33:31
  And then two weeks later, I think I was in a session with a
• 33:35
  amazing writer and he just started making a beat and then
• 33:38
  playing some guitar. And I just started, you know,
• 33:41
  being in my little corner, got my notes app out and was like
• 33:44
  writing away. But that's what like, kind of
• 33:45
  started the whole song. Oh my God.
• 33:48
  And that's such a powerful fucking visual as the lyric to
• 33:50
  that song itself. Just everything, like I was
• 33:52
  telling you before the show started, I really should have
• 33:54
  saved it for when we were shooting, but I was telling you,
• 33:56
  I was like, I was trying to find lyrics to post on my Instagram
• 33:59
  story because like, I'm like, I love a little supplemental, but
• 34:02
  I was like trying to find lyrics, the perfect lyrics post
• 34:04
  and I was like every fucking lyric hits.
• 34:06
  And this is it. I specifically also love because
• 34:08
  I'm a big journaler. I'm a big journaler.
• 34:10
  I write everything about how I'm feeling, my day, everything I'm
• 34:13
  going through, everything I'm thinking.
• 34:14
  So I love the lyric that you said.
• 34:16
  She's not reading old journals and running herself in circles
• 34:18
  trying to out feel the pain. What?
• 34:20
  That is so fucking powerful. Literally samesies.
• 34:22
  Yeah, I do. Read my old journals.
• 34:23
  Too. I'm like, oh, I missed that
• 34:25
  time. I missed that era.
• 34:26
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:27
  I'm like, girl, why? Like sometimes they're like, but
• 34:29
  you know what? Hey, it's like, you know, I'm a
• 34:31
  feeler. I love feeling things.
• 34:34
  And you know what? I love to feel my emotions.
• 34:35
  But that is true. It's like sometimes you know you
• 34:38
  can't you can't out feel the pain of things like you can't
• 34:41
  out work. Like if you are hurt like now
• 34:44
  that I am older, I know this like you do have to like process
• 34:46
  your feelings. You can't just out.
• 34:48
  Shit sucks. Yeah, you just got to sit in it.
• 34:50
  Otherwise it will come up in other ways.
• 34:52
  So like you got to and it's annoying.
• 34:53
  But I'm a big fan of China and like out feel the pain.
• 34:56
  Yeah, I love that. I love running away.
• 34:57
  From being I got to work. I got to distract the hell out
• 35:00
  of myself, but I'm like. I'm going to like.
• 35:02
  Yeah, No, I can't. I don't think I could do that.
• 35:04
  Yeah, I. Don't think I could distracting
• 35:06
  myself. That's why my first CP
• 35:08
  distracting myself. It's titled Distracting myself
• 35:10
  because you're trying to feel the.
• 35:11
  Pain Gotchu OK that's a fun fact.
• 35:13
  Lulu OK love nothing like me. That is so powerful and
• 35:16
  goodnight. How long did that one take?
• 35:17
  Cuz I feel like when I was watching your songwriting
• 35:19
  process of it too. I think you started in like 2021
• 35:21
  and finished in 2023. Yeah, Well, that was fast.
• 35:23
  Like writing it. We did it one day, One day
• 35:25
  writing it. But then we went back when I was
• 35:27
  making the album because I had written so many songs, like
• 35:29
  probably 152 hundred songs over the course of these years.
• 35:33
  Right. Right.
• 35:33
  So, you know, I was going through all of my demos trying
• 35:37
  to figure out, OK, what's the best order?
• 35:38
  Like what, what story do I want to tell?
• 35:40
  What fits together on the album? Because I'm very big into like,
• 35:42
  you know, being intentional about the sequencing on.
• 35:44
  Yeah, the track listing. Yes.
• 35:46
  And nothing like me was just we were like this has to be on
• 35:48
  there. Like absolutely has to be on
• 35:50
  there. Oh my God, it's so fucking good.
• 35:52
  I love nothing like me. So that's one of the songs I was
• 35:54
  talking about where I'm like, you are literally speaking to
• 35:56
  myself. I feel like you wrote it for me.
• 35:58
  I feel like I wrote it because I'm like, this is me and I'm a
• 36:00
  big journaler too, and I know you are too.
• 36:02
  Yes, I do love reading old journals.
• 36:04
  I love feeling things. Actually, I don't like feeling
• 36:06
  things. I try not to feel anything
• 36:07
  which. It's good like journaling is.
• 36:10
  So I always encourage people, if you don't journal, this is your
• 36:12
  sign to start journaling. It's going to change your life.
• 36:15
  I've always wanted to be a journal girl.
• 36:17
  I was like, I just want to be one of those people that
• 36:19
  journals. I could never do it until I had
• 36:20
  a friend be like, oh, just put pictures in there with it.
• 36:22
  And for some reason it clicked to my brain.
• 36:25
  And so at the end of 2019, like December 2019 is when I started.
• 36:29
  And it's crazy now to look back because I think I have over, I
• 36:31
  think I have like 18 journals total now.
• 36:34
  But like, to have all of these memories and moments from really
• 36:36
  growing up like age 18 to now 24, like, that's insane.
• 36:40
  And I know one day I'm going to be like, so grateful to look
• 36:42
  back on them. It's also just so it's like a
• 36:44
  time capsule. Yes, that's what I love about
• 36:46
  journals too. Like I love seeing exactly what
• 36:48
  I felt in the moment, especially because I'm over it or
• 36:50
  something's different. Like it's like, no, that's how I
• 36:52
  felt then. This is what I was going
• 36:53
  through. This is how I dealt with it.
• 36:54
  This is how I got through it, and I love that too.
• 36:55
  It's also reassuring for me too, to remind myself that whatever
• 36:58
  I'm going through now, whatever I'm journaling about.
• 37:00
  Actively. I'm going to get through it.
• 37:02
  Exactly. And I see things.
• 37:03
  I'm like, Oh my gosh, like whenever I'm feeling, you know,
• 37:05
  insecurity, you're like a wave of comparison.
• 37:08
  I look back and I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm like where I was
• 37:10
  praying for like if 20 year old me knew where I am today, like
• 37:13
  she would be so happy. Like it makes you really
• 37:15
  grateful to see how far you've come.
• 37:16
  And like you said, like you can overcome anything because you
• 37:19
  have the physical proof of like you do where you were.
• 37:21
  Yeah, and it's a timestamp of what you're feeling in that
• 37:23
  moment, too. You know what's interesting?
• 37:25
  Actually, one of your journal entries that you had scanned and
• 37:26
  put on your website, you did mention that you were comparing
• 37:28
  yourself a lot. And you're like, it's the most
• 37:29
  evil thing. That's a direct quote from that
• 37:32
  journal entry. And then actually right after
• 37:34
  that journal entry, that's when you wrote down the lyrics for
• 37:37
  Ellie Doesn't Miss Me, which is another beautiful, stunning song
• 37:40
  that I fucking love too. So I think it's super powerful
• 37:43
  to journal to remember that. And then also like looking back
• 37:46
  at how you felt, like, do you still feel that way?
• 37:47
  Do you compare yourself a lot? I think obviously not as, yeah,
• 37:51
  not as much. It's like, you know, my frontal
• 37:53
  lobe is a little bit more developed.
• 37:55
  You're getting there. I'm getting there, but of course
• 37:58
  that's still going to happen. But I think it's more of a it's,
• 38:02
  it's more of like an inner knowing, like the more you
• 38:03
  develop yourself and the more I developed, you know, my own
• 38:06
  confidence. Yeah, there's waves of
• 38:07
  comparison or insecurity that are going to cross, but it
• 38:09
  doesn't become part of your identity when you know that
• 38:11
  that's like it'll, it'll pass Versus when you're younger.
• 38:14
  It's like it can be all consuming.
• 38:16
  And especially too, when you are like trying to figure out what
• 38:18
  you want to do in life. Like it's, it's so overwhelming.
• 38:20
  And, you know, I always like try to look back on myself with
• 38:23
  grace and give my other friends or people grace who are younger.
• 38:27
  Like you're not supposed to have to figure it out.
• 38:29
  Like, I have so many Kincadians that are, you know, they'll
• 38:32
  message me talking about how they're so anxious and
• 38:33
  overwhelmed. They don't know what they want
• 38:35
  to do, what they're like. And I'm like, that's OK.
• 38:36
  Try everything Like, you embrace this time.
• 38:39
  Yeah, embrace this time. Try things.
• 38:40
  Try different internships, try different, you know, degrees,
• 38:43
  try different things. So that way you can figure out
• 38:45
  what you really like and what you're really passionate about.
• 38:47
  100% and also like just putting yourself out there and just
• 38:50
  doing things too. It's also a good practice just
• 38:52
  for like living life. And I feel like a lot of us are
• 38:54
  like so stuck in like either the past or like thinking about
• 38:56
  what's coming next in the future.
• 38:57
  That's what I like about you that you're constantly taking
• 38:59
  pictures and videos like that. You're capturing the moments
• 39:01
  that you're existing in, right? And I feel like that's such an
• 39:04
  important thing because I always tell people, This is why I
• 39:07
  encourage people to journal. Life is worth remembering.
• 39:09
  Your life is worth remembering. So take the pictures, write the
• 39:12
  journal, do the things. The friendship bracelets.
• 39:15
  Yeah, take the moment and taste it.
• 39:17
  You've got no reason to be afraid.
• 39:19
  Wait, I love you're on your own, kid.
• 39:21
  No. Yes.
• 39:22
  I just when he said like, take the, take the memories, I was
• 39:24
  just like, Oh my God, I have to say.
• 39:26
  The bridge of You're on your own kid is so good, do you know?
• 39:28
  It I cried to that earlier today really so good I love midnight
• 39:31
  and I figured it out you want to know why why the fall of 22 hit
• 39:34
  so differently because it was the last year without AI like
• 39:37
  mainstream AI like interesting there was no.
• 39:38
  Strategy, But you're getting into it.
• 39:39
  I mean, you're giving midnights of your makeup.
• 39:41
  I mean, you do a lot of sparkly eyeshadow.
• 39:42
  I had so many people be like Oh my gosh, she's doing the liking
• 39:45
  kid eyeshadow. When she posted the videos I was
• 39:47
  like period. OK.
• 39:48
  There you go on brand. OK, OK.
• 39:50
  Period. We love marketing.
• 39:51
  Because I love glitter because you know what I realized
• 39:54
  sometimes, you know, you may not feel good, but sometimes
• 39:57
  dressing like if you dress like I'm that person where like if I
• 39:59
  put makeup on, even if I'm just working at home or writing at
• 40:01
  home, I like will write a better song.
• 40:03
  It's literally like I use makeup is almost like a tool of my
• 40:05
  creativity, which I love, which is why I have made these makeup
• 40:09
  charts and for every single song on cinematic too and YouTube
• 40:12
  tutorials. So you can go check those out if
• 40:15
  you want to match with me one day.
• 40:16
  You're also such a visual artist too and I feel like ideas that
• 40:19
  you have however so fun and like very very a part of the world.
• 40:22
  Like the track listing reveal that you did where you wrote out
• 40:25
  the songs in track list order on popcorn buckets.
• 40:28
  That's so fucking cute. It's cinematic.
• 40:30
  See movie theme, it's all it's all it's all interconnected It's
• 40:34
  like that meme, you know the meme where it's like the guy and
• 40:35
  he has like the the white board with all like the lines totally
• 40:38
  that's how that's how my brain feels all the time I can tell I
• 40:41
  don't talk I'm like this but you know what we're just embracing
• 40:44
  it yeah, we're embracing it. I.
• 40:46
  Feel like that's how I yeah, how I live too.
• 40:48
  Honestly, it's kind of chaotic. But it's like it makes sense to
• 40:51
  me. Yeah, totally.
• 40:52
  And you're actually being able to translate it well into the
• 40:54
  real world, too. Thank you.
• 40:55
  And you know what's interesting about the whole thing about,
• 40:57
  like, cinematic, like, this is so based in Hollywood.
• 41:00
  You love vintage things, You love the glamour of it.
• 41:03
  And you've been in LA for a while now.
• 41:06
  Is it a decade, would we say? Yeah, That's crazy.
• 41:09
  To say a decade. You've been in the music
• 41:11
  industry, you've seen things, you've met people, you've done
• 41:14
  things. This album is the T on
• 41:16
  Hollywood. It really is.
• 41:17
  Plus I just find it so, you know, I would say like LA, the
• 41:21
  city of Los Angeles is like the biggest love hate relationship I
• 41:24
  probably probably will ever be. Like even with my second EPLA
• 41:28
  doesn't miss me. I was like, I hate LA, I'm
• 41:30
  getting away. But it was like not LA.
• 41:31
  It was just the people I was around at the time.
• 41:33
  And then like, but it really does.
• 41:34
  There's something about this city that inspires you so much.
• 41:37
  I think it's because I realize this.
• 41:39
  I think it's because there's so much history in here.
• 41:40
  Like whenever I'm walking down, I'm like, think about all of the
• 41:43
  iconic people who also walk down here, like.
• 41:45
  Who had their own dreams? Yeah.
• 41:47
  And like, I don't know, just that's why I love vintage
• 41:49
  clothes because I'm like, there's a story in there.
• 41:51
  Yeah, there's a story. I'm always like, I always want
• 41:53
  to know the story. Like I love estate sales.
• 41:55
  I love estate sales. I will wake up so early.
• 41:57
  I will always wake up early for an estate sale or a sunrise or
• 42:00
  sunset because I just love like the history and things.
• 42:03
  And I think it's so. Beautiful, yeah.
• 42:05
  And the intentionality behind it.
• 42:07
  And I'm trying to bring incorporate that into our
• 42:09
  current day and age because everything moves so fast.
• 42:11
  And I'm like, no, but let's like take our time and like.
• 42:14
  Like totally 100% and I feel like that intention is why when
• 42:18
  you are doing your visuals, when you're creating things like the
• 42:22
  visual that you did for cinematic with what was it?
• 42:24
  It was like it was a lot of B roll from old.
• 42:28
  Yes, the cinematic music video which is out.
• 42:32
  Yes, it's so good. Let's all watch it.
• 42:34
  But I, you know, as an, as an independent artist, like it's
• 42:37
  just me, like it's me and I have some amazing Co writers, amazing
• 42:40
  producers, but it's just me kind of doing everything, you know,
• 42:43
  and I was like, how can I really incorporate myself?
• 42:46
  Like, you know, I know one day, you know, down the line, I'll
• 42:49
  have a bigger team and like, you know, be able to make huge music
• 42:52
  videos. But I was like, you know what?
• 42:53
  Instead of like, feeling like I don't have enough right now or
• 42:56
  like, I don't know how it's going to look good, let me just
• 42:57
  embrace what I have and like, let's make it creative.
• 43:00
  And I have been collecting, you know, vintage stock footage and
• 43:04
  like vintage public domain archives since 2021.
• 43:07
  I wanna say, I'm gonna say years.
• 43:08
  I have two hard drives. I have like giant hard drives
• 43:10
  because I think it's so cool. And I'm like, what if the
• 43:12
  Internet goes away? I'm like, I wanna have these
• 43:13
  'cause this is part of history. You're sentimental as fuck.
• 43:16
  Yeah, no, I really am. But I have a whole song about
• 43:18
  that stream. Sentimental.
• 43:19
  Stream Sentimental You have a song about everything I.
• 43:21
  Really do it's true everything my discography isn't even that
• 43:24
  big. I'm like after the album, it's
• 43:26
  like, you know, now I'm writing album too.
• 43:27
  Like we're, we're expanding it, but it's, it's actually crazy
• 43:30
  'cause I love just writing like really specific songs, but I
• 43:32
  weirdly enough have like a lot of very specific moments that
• 43:35
  other people tend to have. But in terms of the music video,
• 43:38
  I've been collecting all this footage and I was like, I want
• 43:40
  to try to make something really cool that feels that
• 43:43
  incorporates those elements. Like I think there's some,
• 43:45
  there's some clips from the very first movie that ever won an
• 43:49
  Academy Award that everyone an Oscar would like.
• 43:51
  Clara Bow is from the silent film era.
• 43:53
  So it's like incorporating all those into cinematic.
• 43:55
  I don't know. It just felt so cool.
• 43:57
  And like, I always say, like, this is like what we were
• 43:59
  talking about earlier, like do whatever you can or whatever you
• 44:02
  have, like. And I was like, you know what I
• 44:03
  have? Yeah.
• 44:04
  I mean, I have a cinema cinematographer and like all
• 44:06
  these people to help me with the music video or I might not have
• 44:08
  a big budget, but you know what I do have?
• 44:09
  I have my computer and I have two hard drives filled with
• 44:13
  public domain footage. And I have footage that I took
• 44:14
  when my dad was shooting the cover up for cinematic on
• 44:17
  Thanksgiving of last year. And I sat down at my computer
• 44:20
  for two days. I literally, like, locked myself
• 44:22
  in my house for two days. Yeah, did not move.
• 44:25
  And I made it. And I was like, yeah.
• 44:27
  But I love it because it feels so me.
• 44:29
  And I'm like, you know what? That's why I'm so grateful now.
• 44:30
  It's like being an independent artist.
• 44:32
  Yeah, it's harder, but I'm able to fully say whatever I want to
• 44:36
  say. And so I'm just embracing this
• 44:37
  this time and embracing, you know?
• 44:39
  And as you grow as an artist, that's going to change and
• 44:41
  you're going to adapt to it and you're going to start being able
• 44:43
  to onboard people who can help fulfill your vision too.
• 44:45
  But where you are right now, it's beautiful.
• 44:47
  You can do exactly the art that you want to do.
• 44:49
  Thank you. No, no restrictions, no outside
• 44:54
  thoughts there. It's just like Lily Kincaid, and
• 44:55
  this is truly that with cinematic.
• 44:57
  Thank you. And it's really special for me
• 44:58
  too because, you know, I never want to in the future.
• 45:01
  It's like I never want anything to get in the way of me and the
• 45:04
  Kincadians because ultimately it's like that's who I'm making
• 45:07
  music for is like for other people.
• 45:09
  Like no matter what, I'm not making music for an algorithm.
• 45:11
  I'm not making videos for an algorithm.
• 45:13
  I want to make real art. It's like, yeah, you can do
• 45:15
  other content and things to support that, but at the end of
• 45:17
  the day, like I never, you have to make certain like principles
• 45:21
  and like certain values that you're not going to compromise
• 45:23
  on when you when you begin like, you know, an artistic career.
• 45:26
  And one of those is like, I don't want to compromise on, you
• 45:28
  know, the music because at the end of the day, I love visuals.
• 45:31
  But if I had to pick one thing, it always goes back to the song.
• 45:34
  It always goes back to the song and the storytelling and
• 45:36
  songwriting for me. And I don't know, I just feel
• 45:39
  very lucky that right now I can, you know, have the freedom to
• 45:42
  release whatever I want to. Release and I love that.
• 45:44
  So I wanted to ask because you've been working on this
• 45:46
  album for a few years now, yes. Why is now the right time to put
• 45:49
  out your debut album? You only get one debut album.
• 45:52
  I know, isn't that crazy? It's crazy.
• 45:54
  Like I knew, first of all, I love fall album releases.
• 45:58
  I just feel so there's something about it being so cozy.
• 46:00
  Everyone's going back home for the holidays, They're
• 46:02
  travelling. I also love like I'm a night owl
• 46:05
  and I don't know. I just love it when it gets, I
• 46:07
  know, like some people hate it, but I love when it gets dark
• 46:08
  early. I don't know.
• 46:09
  I just feel so cozy, but it feels so cozy like I don't know
• 46:14
  and I don't no, I just like, I feel like music.
• 46:17
  Well, yes, I love listening to music with friends.
• 46:19
  I'm a big person of like music has kept me company.
• 46:22
  I only like listening to music when I'm alone.
• 46:24
  Yeah, and like, I remember just like, you know, being an only
• 46:26
  child, you know, on holidays or when, you know, we had break
• 46:29
  from school, I was always very lonely.
• 46:31
  Like I didn't have siblings to entertain me or to play games
• 46:33
  with. And so like, I would always go
• 46:35
  to music. I would either be playing music
• 46:36
  or listening to music. And it was a big comfort.
• 46:39
  So I, I really wanted to release it around this time because I'm
• 46:42
  like, OK, I hope it can comfort people as they like travel.
• 46:45
  There's so much intention behind this album.
• 46:47
  Yeah. Oh my gosh.
• 46:48
  And now it's finally here, guys. So I want to talk about another
• 46:52
  track. You are a big fan of name
• 46:55
  dropping months in your music. Yes, We already went over that.
• 46:57
  But there's a song on this album called Still in August.
• 47:01
  Let's talk about Still in August.
• 47:03
  Still in August is one of my favorite songs.
• 47:07
  I always say that about every song, though, because I'm like,
• 47:08
  they're my children. Like they're just different.
• 47:10
  They're like different stories. But Still in August, I remember
• 47:13
  I was not over this one guy that I had dated.
• 47:16
  And I think I wrote, I started writing this song in end of
• 47:19
  January or February. And I literally was like still
• 47:21
  in those memories. And I was like, this is
• 47:22
  ridiculous. I'm like, it's been 6 months.
• 47:24
  Like Lily, why aren't you over it?
• 47:26
  And I was like, you know what, maybe I just need to write a
• 47:29
  song about this because this is, this is going on way too long,
• 47:31
  girl. And, you know, I think I think
• 47:35
  it's a very relatable feeling to still be in a moment when
• 47:38
  everyone around you has moved on, whether that be, you know, a
• 47:40
  relationship, a friendship. And it's more common than you
• 47:45
  think. And I don't know, like, it was
• 47:46
  very healing writing that song to finally be like, you know
• 47:49
  what? Yeah, maybe I do still care.
• 47:51
  Similar to like, nothing like me.
• 47:52
  Like, yeah, I will convince myself I don't care.
• 47:54
  I don't care. I don't care, but I do.
• 47:55
  And eventually, like, you have to face that feeling.
• 47:57
  Yeah, instead of running away from it.
• 47:59
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 48:00
  And honestly, honestly, getting over things and healing isn't
• 48:02
  linear. Yeah.
• 48:03
  And there's no defined timeline for it.
• 48:04
  So I think it's normal, like, to take your time with it if you
• 48:07
  need to. Some people get over things
• 48:08
  really quickly. Some people, like, revisit them.
• 48:10
  I don't fucking no, honestly, Like, don't ask me about
• 48:12
  nothing, yeah. Well, and sometimes too, it's
• 48:14
  like it's not my choice. Like sometimes it's like I don't
• 48:16
  want to be feeling these feelings.
• 48:17
  Why am I feeling them, you know? Absolutely, 100%.
• 48:20
  So real quick T, do you think not?
• 48:24
  Do you think I'm wondering, is one of the subject matters of
• 48:27
  this album like an actor? Because we have Mr. Hollywood,
• 48:33
  we don't have to talk. No, no, it's good.
• 48:36
  I'm not going to be mean the. First time you got speechless
• 48:39
  this entire episode because you've been you've been yapped
• 48:42
  in America. What do you define actor as?
• 48:45
  I guess somebody who calls who identifies themselves as an
• 48:47
  actor? Sure.
• 48:48
  Shady fuck. What do you define actor as
• 48:53
  someone booking? But then I'm like, OK, I can't
• 48:55
  be mean because I'm like, I always tell people like, no, if
• 48:58
  you are doing something like technically you can call
• 49:00
  yourself that. So like technically he's he is
• 49:01
  an actor. Damn, that is some shade.
• 49:04
  Lulu Girl. I love that.
• 49:05
  OK, so an actor type. Yeah.
• 49:09
  Got it. Yes, that's what Mr. Hollywood
• 49:12
  is about, Yeah. It's like he wanted to be the
• 49:14
  star, but it's like, no. We talked to the.
• 49:16
  Star, I don't think, I don't think it works.
• 49:19
  I think relationships, I heard this advice from somebody like a
• 49:22
  long time ago and it was you know what, in every relationship
• 49:24
  there has to be a balloon and a rock, you know where they can
• 49:28
  switch off at certain points. But, you know, if two people
• 49:30
  want to be a star, it's not going to work because you need
• 49:33
  the grounding energy and you need like, that supportive
• 49:35
  energy together. And like, I realized this as
• 49:38
  I've gotten older. Like sometimes people want to
• 49:40
  date you because they want to be you, which is like very scary.
• 49:42
  Actually. It's kind of, it's kind of crazy
• 49:44
  how, like they admire you so much that they want to be you.
• 49:46
  So they want to get as close to you as possible.
• 49:49
  But yeah, but it's very interesting.
• 49:50
  Like, as I've, you know, but every single experience, like,
• 49:53
  I'm so grateful for it. And ultimately it's like
• 49:55
  everything has made me who I am today.
• 49:57
  And also, like, I've have some amazing songs out of it.
• 50:00
  And I think some people know that, like, some some guys at
• 50:03
  least, at least this one person we're referring to, like, knows
• 50:05
  that. Like knows that, yeah.
• 50:07
  Like will bother me just because he knows I'm going to write a
• 50:09
  song about. It fuck that's crazy.
• 50:11
  I know, but then I'm like, but I get good songs out of that's a
• 50:14
  whole thing. But then it's like, yeah, it's,
• 50:16
  it's a tortured artist trope. It's like a real thing.
• 50:18
  Oh, it's so true. And you know what?
• 50:19
  We talked about this after your hotel cafe show a couple weeks
• 50:22
  ago. Go, but don't date producers.
• 50:27
  Don't date musicians. Yeah, but it's like I'm a
• 50:30
  musician. So like, I guess it's like I
• 50:32
  would. My biggest thing I love is like
• 50:36
  somebody who knows who they are. OK.
• 50:37
  Yeah, if somebody who knows who they are because, you know,
• 50:39
  yeah, I love somebody who's confident, as I always say,
• 50:43
  like, you cannot ask for things that you aren't.
• 50:45
  So like, if you are somebody who's a dedicated hard worker,
• 50:48
  like, then that's fair. You should be looking for
• 50:51
  somebody else who's also a hard worker, who's driven, who's, you
• 50:53
  know, motivated. I so agree with all of that.
• 50:55
  Yes, don't date a producer. OK, so also should we not date
• 50:58
  actors? I don't know.
• 51:01
  I feel like for me, it would be difficult.
• 51:02
  Like, I don't want to like, I know they're acting, but then
• 51:05
  I'm like, but what if you're not acting?
• 51:07
  That's the reason I always think about like, you know, you think
• 51:09
  about Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt and then, like, Brad Pitt
• 51:12
  was on the movie with Angelina Jolie.
• 51:15
  Literally, they have been married for five years, and then
• 51:17
  he fell in love with Angelina Jolie and they got divorced.
• 51:19
  Yeah. I feel like I need somebody
• 51:21
  who's creative in some way, but like a normal person, like
• 51:24
  Normie, not Normie, but like somebody in the industry who
• 51:27
  understands the mindset of a creative, but somebody that's a
• 51:29
  lot more like business like. Yeah, no, I agree with that.
• 51:33
  I feel, I feel like for me, and you mentioned this earlier and I
• 51:35
  completely agree with you. It's like you're the star, I'm
• 51:37
  the star. And I don't want to be with
• 51:39
  someone where I feel like I have to compete with egos.
• 51:41
  Yes, because like honestly, I have a huge ego and I don't want
• 51:43
  to compete with an ego. So like I guess where I am
• 51:45
  because I used to think I wanted to date someone who was out of
• 51:48
  the industry, like completely unrelated, but then they no, you
• 51:50
  don't. They never got me.
• 51:51
  You don't. Because it's like you often feel
• 51:53
  like you are like a show pony. Yes, like, and then also too at
• 51:57
  the same time, it's almost like, yeah, they like think you're
• 52:00
  amazing because they're like, oh, that's so cool, that's so
• 52:02
  creative. But then also too, there's a
• 52:03
  part of them that like doesn't think it's a real job.
• 52:05
  Like they don't and and it it's really weird, like.
• 52:07
  I dealt with that. I had this situation.
• 52:08
  I was just like, oh, like you think this is like a hobby, like
• 52:11
  a fun And I'm like, no, this is my like I've spent like this is
• 52:14
  not some. Cute little.
• 52:15
  Thing I'm doing. Yeah.
• 52:16
  Totally somebody who is creative, who also can
• 52:18
  understand that mindset, but you know, you live and.
• 52:21
  Learn. So we go back.
• 52:22
  We go back to dating the producers then.
• 52:24
  Yeah. But yeah, I don't know.
• 52:26
  I feel like the best situation is to be like friends with
• 52:27
  people first, like you always. Like, I don't know, it feels
• 52:31
  like every time you have a friend, they end up catching
• 52:35
  feelings. I don't want to be friends with
• 52:37
  people I think I want to date. I think I'd rather just like,
• 52:39
  not be friends. Exactly.
• 52:41
  But at a certain point, somebody will catch feelings.
• 52:43
  That's how they do. It's like our brains are wired
• 52:44
  to like, select the best match out of whoever is around.
• 52:48
  Us wait, you're like totally like this is all.
• 52:50
  Scientific something in. Me like kind of like somethings
• 52:53
  making sense. We're back to the white board.
• 52:55
  And yeah, like, it's interesting because a lot of the situations
• 52:58
  in my life, at least I guess it's like 5050, but, you know,
• 53:01
  I've had like, a lot of friends. And then it turns into, you
• 53:03
  know, catching feelings, Then you know, somebody from a
• 53:05
  perspective of, like, you're not just trying to impress them,
• 53:07
  like, you know their heart. You've seen them in certain
• 53:09
  situations. So it's hard reason.
• 53:10
  I love care about them. Yeah.
• 53:11
  OK, wait. Love.
• 53:12
  Love. Love.
• 53:12
  Love. Love, Love.
• 53:13
  Love. But then if it goes bad then
• 53:15
  like OK now we're not friends anymore either.
• 53:18
  OT. So it's like, you know more.
• 53:19
  But you know what I am, she is nothing like me because I have
• 53:24
  no problem cutting off friends. So yeah, big fan of cutting off
• 53:29
  friends because I had I was talking to my roommate about it
• 53:31
  because he was like, you can't just ghost people.
• 53:33
  And I was like, and I played nothing like me.
• 53:36
  And then it was like, she doesn't cut off.
• 53:40
  But Ryan, Ryan, let me tell you. Oh no, scared.
• 53:43
  The person who is singing that song and definitely me is not
• 53:45
  the person you want to be. The person who you want to be is
• 53:47
  the one who doesn't cut. But I'm embracing being the
• 53:50
  nothing like me. You know what I mean?
• 53:52
  OK, true. Yes, because honestly, I like
• 53:53
  that crazy. I love all yes, we aspire to be
• 53:56
  this more polished version of ourselves and we're
• 53:59
  acknowledging that that's nothing like me right now.
• 54:01
  But I also really embrace that is nothing like me because I'm
• 54:03
  just like, yeah, whatever. If I'm a little crazy, I'm a
• 54:05
  little crazy. It is, but also to.
• 54:06
  Embracing like the things that you value, like I totally think
• 54:10
  it is OK to have your boundaries and have what you are, you know,
• 54:15
  because you know, time is time is our most valuable resource
• 54:18
  and you want to make sure that you're spending it with friends
• 54:20
  who love and care about you. TTTT Yeah.
• 54:24
  When people wrong me, they're out.
• 54:25
  I'm done. Don't care.
• 54:26
  No second chances. Hate them.
• 54:28
  Good, Good to go. I was going to say, I often know
• 54:30
  too, if I like, have feelings for somebody, if I write a song
• 54:32
  about them because I can't force a song about somebody.
• 54:35
  Yeah, isn't that weird? It almost tells me I'm like, I
• 54:37
  don't like you if I can't write a song about you naturally.
• 54:39
  I kind of love that though, and especially like, it's also so
• 54:42
  beautiful and it's such art. And I'm the same type of person,
• 54:44
  I think, because I also write and I also want to show them
• 54:47
  what I write. Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 54:48
  Wait, I showed you that? That's long after the hotel at
• 54:50
  the cafe. That was about that one guy.
• 54:52
  I know, I know the tea. I know all of the tea.
• 54:56
  I feel like. But hey, isn't it cool that you
• 54:58
  like get out there? Yeah, Oh my God, I love, I love
• 55:01
  to write quotes when I'm writing.
• 55:03
  Yes, I love specific things. That's why I really fuck with
• 55:05
  your music. Because I'm like, you know what
• 55:08
  I often say? Like, you know the world won't
• 55:11
  know who it's about, but the person it is about should know
• 55:13
  it's about. I write it so they know it's
• 55:15
  about that direct quotes. I describe things very
• 55:18
  explicitly. It needs to be like they need
• 55:20
  to. Know because I'm like even just
• 55:22
  in general, it's like people often try to make their songs
• 55:24
  relatable. I'm like, stop trying.
• 55:25
  If it's relatable to you, if it's relatable to like something
• 55:28
  you went through exactly, it's going to be relatable to
• 55:30
  someone. Else 100% exactly.
• 55:32
  And that was that. Like we said earlier, what I
• 55:34
  said earlier, those are the type of music that I relate to the
• 55:37
  most when it's like the artist is getting very specific, very
• 55:40
  into it, you know what I mean? So that's what I love and that's
• 55:43
  what I love about your music too.
• 55:44
  I want to highlight another song on this album.
• 55:48
  I want to start with the open track Behind the Scenes.
• 55:51
  I love this song so much. Yeah, it is the second to last
• 55:53
  song I wrote for the project, really.
• 55:55
  And I, you know, at this point in time, I had written
• 55:59
  cinematic, I'd written Mr. Hollywood.
• 56:01
  I knew the theme. I was like, OK, it's going to be
• 56:03
  like movie cinematic theme, old Hollywood.
• 56:05
  So I made a list of like, OK, if there was any other things I
• 56:07
  would maybe write that were on theme, What are some good
• 56:10
  lyrics? And I'd written down like behind
• 56:12
  the scenes. And I played around with the
• 56:13
  piano melody, then went into the studio and wrote the song and
• 56:16
  like, I was like, this is the perfect opener.
• 56:18
  I didn't. I knew I wanted cinematic to
• 56:20
  almost be like track 2 because an opener to me should introduce
• 56:23
  the listener to the. Sonic World, The landscape, of
• 56:26
  course. I agree.
• 56:26
  And behind the scenes, like it came together so fast and I just
• 56:29
  love it because, you know, I love writing kind of like
• 56:31
  internal songs. And it ended up being the
• 56:34
  perfect, perfect opener, you know, just being like, hey, if I
• 56:37
  tell you all of these emotions and secrets, like, are you still
• 56:41
  going to stick around? I.
• 56:42
  Love that, that's so beautiful. And like the opening line,
• 56:46
  there's a lot of things you don't know and I'm not sure if
• 56:48
  you wanna. I've been giving glitter and
• 56:49
  gold temporary Nirvana. I just love that cuz like the I
• 56:52
  was worth of glitter, you know, that's like you literally set.
• 56:54
  The stage for the album with those lyrics too.
• 56:57
  I fucking love that. And you're also taking us behind
• 56:59
  the scenes too. You've been taking us behind the
• 57:01
  scenes with your entire career, your artistry.
• 57:02
  It's so like, but this is like the reason why I was like, this
• 57:04
  is just the perfect debut album. Even growing up in LA and like
• 57:07
  having, you know, old Hollywood and just being around it and
• 57:10
  like, I don't know, it just felt.
• 57:11
  And the fact that nobody had like done that before, it just
• 57:15
  felt like, OK, it was all coming together.
• 57:17
  That's how I knew. Because, like, you know, you
• 57:19
  spend a lot of time as a songwriter and artist being
• 57:21
  like, is it done yet? Is it done?
• 57:23
  Like, should I wait? Should I write a couple more
• 57:25
  songs for the album? Maybe I'll write a better song.
• 57:27
  But at a certain point, you have to be like, it's done.
• 57:29
  And I just knew I was like, it's done.
• 57:31
  Right. Oh, my God.
• 57:32
  And here it is. Yeah.
• 57:33
  Welcome to the world of cinematic.
• 57:35
  And actually, I want to talk about the title track, but you
• 57:36
  said you got me something that's gonna.
• 57:39
  Yeah, take us into the. Cinematic world, you have to
• 57:41
  open your present. Can we open it?
• 57:42
  Can I open it? I also got you.
• 57:43
  There's two presents. We have the first one you can
• 57:45
  open and then the second one. So this is the first present for
• 57:47
  you. Wait, I'm so excited.
• 57:49
  Lily, this is so sweet. My guest never get me gifts.
• 57:52
  So if you're coming on the show, yeah, I'm just kidding.
• 57:54
  Please. OK, I'm going to open it.
• 57:56
  OK, wait. I am a very Virgo opener.
• 58:00
  Should I just tear it away? Just RIP it.
• 58:02
  Such a Virgo opener I. Don't know which way is the
• 58:04
  front. And which?
• 58:04
  Oh, this is already so sweet. Should I read this out loud?
• 58:08
  Is that the back? You can read the back and then
• 58:09
  don't flip it around yet. Don't.
• 58:10
  Yeah, read the back of the camera.
• 58:12
  Camera. You see it before I see it.
• 58:14
  Read the back of it. OK Ryan, thank you from the
• 58:18
  bottom of my heart for believing in me and my music from the very
• 58:21
  beginning. You were such a radiant light
• 58:22
  and your spirit shines in the most beautiful way.
• 58:26
  Wait, I'm blocking myself. Never stop being you and sharing
• 58:29
  your gift with the world. I'm endlessly inspired by you
• 58:32
  and feel so blessed that our powers cross.
• 58:36
  Sorry, wait. Wild in love.
• 58:39
  With love always. With love always, Lily.
• 58:41
  Sorry, this is so sweet. Thank you so much now.
• 58:44
  Flip it around, OK. God Gifty review 405 assigned
• 58:49
  405 cover. This is my favorite song on the
• 58:52
  fucking album. That is crazy.
• 58:53
  This is going up in my fucking. Office, I know I special ordered
• 58:55
  405 just for you because. I was like, you didn't thank you
• 58:58
  so fucking much. Oh my God I love it.
• 59:01
  That is so sweet and it's signed.
• 59:03
  This is literally art. That's a collectible.
• 59:05
  I'm just kidding. They never sell that.
• 59:07
  Just. Kidding.
• 59:07
  Oh my God, no, I mean this is mine forever.
• 59:10
  Thank you so much. I love 4/04/05.
• 59:12
  This is your other present. OK, damn, I'm.
• 59:15
  I'm getting spoiled it. Should you open mine?
• 59:17
  I feel like. Wait, where did I put it?
• 59:19
  Oh, here, here it is. I also got you yours.
• 59:22
  Or do. You want me to open this first
• 59:23
  and then you can do yours. OK, you'll see it.
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  Yes, I'm. Nervous.
• 59:27
  What is it? No, it's so cute.
• 59:28
  Can I wrap? Oh my gosh, I have.
• 59:30
  I'm wrapping, I'm wrapping. I have my delulu with Ryan Lou
• 59:34
  mug. Available on my passive
• 59:36
  storefront. In my hat when I wanted one of
• 59:39
  these really, I saw him wearing. This.
• 59:41
  That's right. You're.
• 59:42
  Wearing the hat and you're wearing your.
• 59:43
  I don't know if you're wearing it today.
• 59:44
  Not today, not today when we this was because of Ellie
• 59:47
  doesn't miss me, that's why I wore this one.
• 59:49
  I love Ellie. Cheetah.
• 59:50
  And I love cheetah print. My one cheetah coat.
• 59:52
  It's about like, probably like November, I'll get out my
• 59:55
  cheetah coat. Is it like a big?
• 59:56
  Everyone coat, everyone knows. Like anybody who knows, it's
• 59:59
  like I can't get rid of it. I just end up wearing it all the
• 1:00:01
  time. She's the follows me around.
• 1:00:03
  It follows me around everywhere. I love this delulu because you
• 1:00:06
  know what? I love why you called your
• 1:00:08
  podcast delulu. Also because of your name, but
• 1:00:10
  also because. It's almost like people use
• 1:00:13
  delusional as like a bad word. I'm like, no.
• 1:00:15
  You like to be crazy? Yeah, no, it's like you are only
• 1:00:18
  crazy until it happens. Yup, Yup, you.
• 1:00:21
  You will be looked at as That's ridiculous.
• 1:00:23
  That could never happen until it does.
• 1:00:25
  Yeah. And so it's actually like a
• 1:00:26
  blessing to be delusional, to have that crazy faith to go
• 1:00:30
  after your goals. A. 100% because if you don't
• 1:00:31
  believe in yourself and you're not insane about it, like what
• 1:00:33
  the fuck? Anyone's gonna who's gonna
• 1:00:34
  believe in you? Who's gonna want to support you
• 1:00:36
  Exactly Love delulu. I love this.
• 1:00:37
  Also, there's a card in there in.
• 1:00:38
  My card. Do you want me to read it later?
• 1:00:40
  Should I read it later? Read now?
• 1:00:41
  Read it. Read it now.
• 1:00:43
  Wait, this is so cute. OK, I need to get.
• 1:00:45
  Yeah, I mean, I need to get my. I need to get my cards.
• 1:00:47
  I get my face on a card, OK. And it's gold.
• 1:00:50
  I love gold, glitter and gold. You're so cute, you love
• 1:00:53
  everything. Miss Cinematic herself, I am the
• 1:00:55
  number one OG Kincaidian. I love your music and I'm so
• 1:00:58
  glad we can explore the LKCU Lily Kincaid cinematic universe
• 1:01:01
  together. Fave songs right now.
• 1:01:03
  Nothing like me and four O 5. Love you, I love you.
• 1:01:05
  I'm screaming out the sunroof period 4.
• 1:01:08
  O5 I love you. I love handwritten cards too.
• 1:01:11
  You probably know that, but I love because you're so
• 1:01:14
  sentimental. Bring back you guys.
• 1:01:15
  This is my #1 tip. Start writing handwritten
• 1:01:18
  thinking notes, handwritten letters, handwritten cards to
• 1:01:19
  people, to your professors, to your friends, to your family, to
• 1:01:22
  your boss, to your coworkers. You'll be so surprised.
• 1:01:26
  Yes to your producers, because there's just something so
• 1:01:28
  special about something handwritten, you know?
• 1:01:31
  Texts are amazing. I love texts.
• 1:01:32
  I love phone calls. But you know.
• 1:01:34
  It's. Just something special about
• 1:01:36
  having like I have a whole box like I'm sure a lot of people
• 1:01:38
  do, but I have like a box. Oh nicely, underneath your bed
• 1:01:41
  I've. I've ever gone anything, anytime
• 1:01:43
  anyone's written me anything if like I've had like past like I
• 1:01:46
  don't know, lovers, whatever sticky notes, like I'll keep all
• 1:01:48
  that shit for sure. I'm super sentimental too.
• 1:01:50
  Not sentimental is you, but I'm definitely very sentimental.
• 1:01:53
  But I love it. It's just so sweet.
• 1:01:54
  Thank you. Thank you, I love you.
• 1:01:56
  Wait, I get to open your other half because it's going to help
• 1:01:58
  you. It's going to help us.
• 1:02:00
  I like my little painting. Thank you.
• 1:02:03
  Thank you for a gift. That's crazy.
• 1:02:05
  OK, here we go. We're doing an ASMR gift
• 1:02:09
  opening. If you're not watching on the
• 1:02:10
  Spotify video version of the show, you should be TuneIn right
• 1:02:14
  now. OK, I'm so sorry.
• 1:02:20
  Shut the fuck up. There's there's probably
• 1:02:22
  something else in there too. It might have fell not.
• 1:02:23
  Shut up. Oh my God, it has he.
• 1:02:25
  Has an OG king. Katie, thank you so much.
• 1:02:28
  Oh my God, Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:02:29
  Wait, I don't want to fuck with my hair.
• 1:02:33
  We'll put it on after. We'll put it on after.
• 1:02:35
  OK. Thank you so much.
• 1:02:36
  Wait, I'm going to put this here.
• 1:02:40
  Oh my God, a script. Shove all the.
• 1:02:42
  Lyrics Oh I should have opened this so are you fucking kidding
• 1:02:47
  me? You're so cute.
• 1:02:48
  All the lyrics in script format. You're so creative, that is, you
• 1:02:53
  need to sell these. I'm working on making a big
• 1:02:55
  book. They're literally it's formatted
• 1:02:57
  like a fucking script. All of the lyric videos which
• 1:03:01
  now that the album is out, the lyric videos are out as well.
• 1:03:04
  I made them all with like the script because it's like extra,
• 1:03:06
  you know, cinematic. I.
• 1:03:07
  Fucking love this. Wait, I'm going to dive into
• 1:03:09
  this because I'm a big lyric person, so like, me too.
• 1:03:12
  Thank you so much. I'm literally going to.
• 1:03:13
  I'm going to put this here because we're going to read
• 1:03:15
  through it together, but Oh my God.
• 1:03:17
  Wait. Thank you for these gifts.
• 1:03:18
  Stop. I feel so spoiled.
• 1:03:20
  This is a blanket. Yeah.
• 1:03:21
  Shut the fuck off. It's my favorite, so I one of my
• 1:03:24
  favorite like. Is this the album cover?
• 1:03:25
  Yeah, one of my favorite pieces of artist merge, I guess, would
• 1:03:29
  be my Taylor Swift 1989 blanket that I bought on her tour.
• 1:03:32
  I love it. I take to the beach.
• 1:03:34
  I love it. And so it's so crazy, but I was
• 1:03:36
  like, OK, when I have my album, I really want to make a blanket.
• 1:03:39
  And I don't know, it just was like such a special moment.
• 1:03:42
  My friend. No.
• 1:03:42
  And my friend and I went to the beach the other day and I
• 1:03:45
  brought it with me and it was like, so cool getting to like,
• 1:03:47
  we were watching the sunset, like sitting on my blanket with
• 1:03:49
  my album, which is like, so cool because I like, you know, I just
• 1:03:53
  love it. Thank you.
• 1:03:54
  So much I'm cozy as fuck. It's giving.
• 1:03:56
  It's giving. It's giving.
• 1:03:58
  It's giving like OG Canadian Canadian status.
• 1:04:01
  Like actually like I'm very comfy and cozy like.
• 1:04:04
  Wait, there's one more thing. Oh, is there a fellow on the
• 1:04:06
  ground? I think it fell out when the hat
• 1:04:08
  when I was here. Oh shit.
• 1:04:09
  OK, wait. The stickers.
• 1:04:12
  The stickers. So I made I was sharing these on
• 1:04:14
  my behind the scenes countdown series, but I love, you know, I
• 1:04:17
  just love lyrics. And so I wanted to create an
• 1:04:18
  icon that kind of represented every single track they're.
• 1:04:22
  So cute. So I turned them into stickers.
• 1:04:24
  Well, you were so funny. Your fans are super lucky that
• 1:04:26
  you're so intentional of all of this.
• 1:04:28
  That is so crazy. I love this because she showed
• 1:04:30
  me the four O 5 sticker. She showed me the four O 5
• 1:04:32
  sticker. She texted it to me a couple
• 1:04:34
  days ago. She's like, do you want one?
• 1:04:35
  I was like, fuck yeah, I want a four O 5 sticker, but it's like
• 1:04:37
  the traffic sign for four O 5. I see it right.
• 1:04:40
  Here and I made them all myself, so I either like took pictures
• 1:04:42
  of things or like edited things together.
• 1:04:45
  Wait, thank you for these gifts. Oh my God, I so love them.
• 1:04:48
  OK, let's get into the. Lyrics.
• 1:04:49
  And I know you're about the lyrics.
• 1:04:50
  I love when people are about lyrics.
• 1:04:52
  I'm like, I'm crazy when I was younger, like, this actually
• 1:04:55
  like ties into my songwriting. When I was younger, this was,
• 1:04:57
  like fun for me. I would, like not hang out with
• 1:04:59
  my friends after school in elementary school.
• 1:05:00
  And I would go home, print off lyrics of, like, songs on the
• 1:05:03
  Billboard 200 chart and, like, analyze them.
• 1:05:05
  Like, I was crazy. I'd be like, oh, my God, this
• 1:05:07
  rhyme scheme is so cool. Like, oh.
• 1:05:09
  My God, I'm such a I'm such a frequent visitor of genius.
• 1:05:13
  Yes, genius lyrics. I was literally doing that last
• 1:05:16
  night when I was trying to cite all the months that you would
• 1:05:18
  name drop in your music. I hear it all the time.
• 1:05:20
  I like. Let me make sure I write this
• 1:05:21
  kind of. Growing I need like I need
• 1:05:23
  January. No, I have January in one in New
• 1:05:25
  Year's resolution. I need March.
• 1:05:27
  Okay. Something has happened to.
• 1:05:29
  You in March and April, I think. OK.
• 1:05:34
  But yeah, these have all the lyrics.
• 1:05:35
  OK, I want to get into cinematic.
• 1:05:36
  Oh, here it is because I got the lyrics wrong.
• 1:05:39
  I tried quoting you because you've actually teased us on the
• 1:05:41
  lyrics from the title track a bunch where you said I'm going
• 1:05:44
  to get it wrong and then we're going to get it right.
• 1:05:45
  It's cinematic, so dramatic. They don't write like they do.
• 1:05:50
  Your first love. So close, so close.
• 1:05:53
  Wait, let's. So cinematic, overdramatic.
• 1:05:55
  They don't write them like the way they write your first love.
• 1:05:58
  Felt like magic but ended tragic.
• 1:05:59
  Barely made it out alive. I got the worst luck.
• 1:06:02
  Yeah, it was good. It was bad.
• 1:06:04
  Let's do a little line read. Oh yeah, we should do like a
• 1:06:07
  script. Fuck yeah.
• 1:06:08
  OK, wait, how do we? Let's read it from the top.
• 1:06:10
  OK, OK, both of us. OK Scene 1, our story unfolds.
• 1:06:18
  In no time at all, we were walking down the yellow brick
• 1:06:21
  road. Oh, because you're from Kansas?
• 1:06:23
  Yeah. And Wizard of Oz, like that was
• 1:06:25
  one of my. Favorite movies?
• 1:06:26
  Oh my God, that totally makes sense.
• 1:06:27
  Wait, I'm going to edit the genius for this.
• 1:06:29
  And we're like, fun fact, she's from Kansas.
• 1:06:31
  OK, seem to spend the night with you.
• 1:06:34
  Tried to play it cool, then my clothes were in the corner of
• 1:06:37
  your room. Oh my God, steamy scandalulu.
• 1:06:41
  Getting little. Oh, OK Kept saying we were
• 1:06:46
  young. Should have been easy, should
• 1:06:47
  have had fun. But now the story's done, which
• 1:06:51
  is also reminiscent of I'm trying to run.
• 1:06:54
  You can say. Yeah, OK.
• 1:06:56
  Looking back at you and me, I can't believe we used to be so
• 1:06:59
  cinematic, overdramatic. They don't write them like the
• 1:07:04
  way they write. Your first love felt like magic.
• 1:07:08
  The end of tragic barely made it out alive.
• 1:07:12
  I got the worst luck. Yeah, it was good, it was bad,
• 1:07:15
  it was ugly. Watching it back and it's all
• 1:07:17
  kind of funny. So cinematic over dramatic.
• 1:07:21
  They don't write M like they write your first love.
• 1:07:25
  Oh my God. That was beautiful.
• 1:07:27
  That was Oscar. Worthy.
• 1:07:28
  OK, yes, give me the Oscar Misses Hollywood.
• 1:07:31
  Period. Cinematic for the first time
• 1:07:33
  ever on guitar. Exclusive here.
• 1:07:36
  I'm delulu. I was.
• 1:07:38
  Like where I. Was like.
• 1:07:40
  Where exactly are we exclusively?
• 1:07:42
  Delulu. Scene 1A story unfolds in no
• 1:07:48
  time at all we were walking down the yellow brick road.
• 1:07:52
  Scene 2 dramatic.
• 1:10:18
  They don't write them like the way they write your first love.
• 1:10:25
  That was truly cinematic. Thank you.
• 1:10:28
  Shing Cinematic, the song and album out everywhere now.
• 1:10:31
  I love that. Thank you so much, this is a
• 1:10:33
  great gift. I'm literally going to pour into
• 1:10:35
  this like. No, because I know you love the
• 1:10:37
  lyrics. I do love the lyrics.
• 1:10:38
  I'm so happy that, you know, I love the lyrics too, you know,
• 1:10:40
  it's funny. I care about lyrics so much too.
• 1:10:42
  And. I feel like I always say that
• 1:10:44
  for me, like, you know, everyone's different with their
• 1:10:46
  music and their songwriting, but for me, I'm like, I believe a
• 1:10:49
  good song is a good song if at the end of the day you could
• 1:10:51
  just play on guitar or piano and it would still sound good.
• 1:10:55
  Like what you did at Hotel Cafe and you strip down those 3
• 1:10:57
  songs. Oh my God.
• 1:10:58
  Literally. Oh my God, I love this.
• 1:11:00
  Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so much.
• 1:11:01
  I'm super excited about this. Yeah.
• 1:11:03
  Yeah. It's such a great album, too.
• 1:11:05
  Thank you. I'm so proud of you.
• 1:11:06
  Oh, did we? Lose the cards?
• 1:11:08
  No. They crowned in the blanket.
• 1:11:10
  OK, so I want to talk about Take Your Seat.
• 1:11:13
  It's only interlude on the album.
• 1:11:16
  Yes, so I knew I wanted to make an interlude because it felt
• 1:11:18
  very cool. That's truly the only purpose
• 1:11:21
  behind it is like I was like, I want an interlude.
• 1:11:23
  I just feel like it makes me official.
• 1:11:26
  And so we created Take Your Seat, the interlude together
• 1:11:30
  with Kyle Jefferson and then Kevin Hutchins, who was another
• 1:11:32
  producer on this project. And we wanted to incorporate
• 1:11:34
  like motifs from some of the other songs kind of blending
• 1:11:37
  together. So it track 4 is lesson to learn
• 1:11:40
  and then it kind of blends into the interlude, which I really
• 1:11:43
  loved because it's kind. Of like.
• 1:11:45
  Flowing in, it's transitioning in, but I really love the way
• 1:11:48
  that the album is is sequenced. So you have like, you know,
• 1:11:51
  behind the scenes is like letting people into the world.
• 1:11:53
  Then cinematic that's giving a summary.
• 1:11:54
  It's giving a trailer of like, OK, here's what you're about to
• 1:11:57
  witness. And then excitement, you know,
• 1:11:59
  four or five exciting and then lesson to learn like, oh, OK,
• 1:12:02
  really into this. Like better be like, I hope it's
• 1:12:05
  not bad. Then you start to get into, you
• 1:12:06
  know, the highs and lows and all the feelings.
• 1:12:09
  And we go all the way down, ending at Mr. Hollywood.
• 1:12:12
  Yes. Oh, my God.
• 1:12:13
  This literally is a movie. It plays like a movie.
• 1:12:15
  It is. I love that.
• 1:12:16
  Yeah. OK, so I ask every guest on
• 1:12:19
  every show what their most delulu take is.
• 1:12:22
  Do you have a delulu take you want to share with us?
• 1:12:24
  OK, a delulu take. What do we got?
• 1:12:27
  I don't know if this would be, like, really crazy, but I
• 1:12:29
  actually think that because of AI and the rise of technology,
• 1:12:34
  it's going to make real artist again.
• 1:12:36
  Really. Yeah.
• 1:12:37
  Because it's like it no longer is about making something that
• 1:12:40
  like sounds good or looks good, which, you know, like, because
• 1:12:44
  at the end of the day, it's going to be all about
• 1:12:45
  authenticity. Like, it's going to be all about
• 1:12:47
  that because, yeah, like a soul, like it doesn't matter how, it
• 1:12:51
  doesn't matter how good your voice sounds or like how pretty
• 1:12:53
  you look because AI can like duplicate that or AI can, you
• 1:12:56
  know, make everything. Like AI could probably make a
• 1:12:59
  better sounding song to me. But is it real?
• 1:13:01
  Does it have a soul behind it? Also, too, I think in terms of
• 1:13:04
  the music industry, you know, people are always all the music
• 1:13:06
  industry is this, this, this all different things.
• 1:13:08
  I'm like, I actually think that right now we're witnessing like
• 1:13:10
  a renaissance of independent artists.
• 1:13:12
  It's like labels no longer have the power.
• 1:13:14
  And so it's like real art is actually forming because there's
• 1:13:17
  no more gatekeepers. Like it's, it's kind of
• 1:13:19
  neutralizing the territory and people are wanting real art
• 1:13:21
  again. They're wanting an album.
• 1:13:22
  Like that's why I was so adamant about creating a project.
• 1:13:25
  It was because I want to tell a whole story.
• 1:13:26
  I don't want to just try to make a song go viral.
• 1:13:28
  It's like I want to make a project.
• 1:13:30
  And then yes, of course, if something does go viral, you
• 1:13:32
  give it as many chances as it has.
• 1:13:33
  But at the end of the day, like, don't compromise.
• 1:13:35
  At least I didn't want to compromise my art for that.
• 1:13:38
  And. It definitely wasn't compromise.
• 1:13:40
  I don't think that's the rule at all.
• 1:13:41
  That actually makes complete sense.
• 1:13:42
  Like that was super logical. Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  I think AI is because I'm craving authenticity.
• 1:13:48
  I'm craving real stories. I'm craving like actual.
• 1:13:51
  Experiences like real and people are like, hey, it's going to
• 1:13:53
  ruin the music industry. I'm like it's going to ruin the
• 1:13:55
  music industry for you if you are not being real, if you're
• 1:13:57
  not being yourself. So it's going to get or people
• 1:13:59
  who are not really dedicated and really passionate, 100% it will.
• 1:14:02
  It'll kind of just like, you know, if you love something, you
• 1:14:06
  have to keep going. Like it's going to be hard.
• 1:14:07
  Like 100% you would, you would still keep doing it.
• 1:14:09
  And there's nobody else that has the same experiences as you.
• 1:14:12
  Yeah. So that's like if you can
• 1:14:13
  incorporate yourself into whatever projects you're doing,
• 1:14:15
  creative or not creative, that's what that's important.
• 1:14:17
  I fucking love that. Wait, do you feel like you're
• 1:14:19
  good at giving advice? Yes.
• 1:14:21
  OK, we're about to give advice right now on the show.
• 1:14:23
  Gosh, I feel very like in another life I would have been a
• 1:14:25
  therapy, but also to like I you kind of are.
• 1:14:27
  I could not be a therapist because I'd be like, this is
• 1:14:29
  your problem. Like fix it plenty wants to eat.
• 1:14:31
  Like I would get so annoyed with people coming back to me with
• 1:14:33
  the same problem. That's how I am too.
• 1:14:35
  Oh my God, yeah. But I'm super Virgo, so like,
• 1:14:38
  I'm super harsh about things too, where I'm like, I I kind of
• 1:14:40
  see solutions in my head. I mean, honestly, listen, let's
• 1:14:43
  get into this. So we're doing WWAGWWADGD.
• 1:14:47
  What the fuck? I don't know why I've been.
• 1:14:48
  Like what does that mean? It means what would a delulu
• 1:14:50
  girl do? So we have some besties
• 1:14:52
  submitting their questions, problems, concerns, dilemmas and
• 1:14:55
  they want our delulu advice on what we would do in these
• 1:14:58
  situations. Are you ready?
• 1:14:59
  This is a warning like if you take our advice like no
• 1:15:02
  promises, but I have I have confidence in my advice.
• 1:15:05
  So me too I think my advice is right so no warning just take
• 1:15:10
  it. OK so we're starting with I
• 1:15:12
  started dating someone new but I feel insane jealousy over every
• 1:15:16
  acts they've ever had even though he's dating me now.
• 1:15:18
  What should I do? OK, I would say you're going to
• 1:15:22
  get out a journal, you're going to get out a pen, and you're
• 1:15:24
  going to ask yourself some questions.
• 1:15:26
  I would start with like, do you like them actually or do you
• 1:15:29
  just like that they like you? Because it seems like maybe
• 1:15:31
  right now you just like that they like you because if you
• 1:15:35
  like them, you would see that no, they're choosing you in this
• 1:15:38
  moment. Like, yeah, they had people in
• 1:15:39
  the past. I'm sure you do too, but it's
• 1:15:41
  like they're choosing you in this moment.
• 1:15:42
  Often times like you know, when you just like that they like
• 1:15:45
  you, other people become a threat because in your mind
• 1:15:48
  you're thinking, oh, they could like their ex tomorrow.
• 1:15:50
  But it's like, no, this person is choosing to be in a
• 1:15:53
  relationship with you. And you know also to it's OK to
• 1:15:56
  express those concerns. I think it's better to either
• 1:15:59
  talk about it like journal talk about it with your girlfriends.
• 1:16:02
  Jealousy is normal feeling and if anything, it tells you where
• 1:16:06
  to care about something. You know, if you're jealous of
• 1:16:08
  something, it's because you really feel passionate and you
• 1:16:09
  feel, you know, protective over it.
• 1:16:11
  So it's actually a good thing, right, If you can use it in the
• 1:16:13
  right way. But I would say, you know, talk
• 1:16:15
  with your girlfriend, talk with your friends and see what they
• 1:16:17
  say. But then like journal about it.
• 1:16:18
  And if you still feel that way, like it's OK to talk to your,
• 1:16:21
  the guy you're dating, like about it, not in a crazy way,
• 1:16:23
  but like, you know. You're so mature and evolved and
• 1:16:26
  I honestly love that Like. Sometimes I hate it.
• 1:16:29
  That's good. Sometimes I hate it.
• 1:16:31
  Like there's a linen seller song that's so good.
• 1:16:33
  Some of my favorite songs, and that's how I've always felt.
• 1:16:34
  It's called Older Than I Am. It's like one of the most
• 1:16:36
  amazing songs ever. It's so beautiful.
• 1:16:39
  It will make you stop. Have you heard that?
• 1:16:40
  No, I'm gonna make you listen to it.
• 1:16:41
  Oh my God, you have to. You're gonna have to show me a
• 1:16:43
  bunch of things. Oh, good.
• 1:16:43
  But it's like the lyrics are sometimes I wish I could do
• 1:16:46
  something stupid, be kind of reckless while I can, but I'm
• 1:16:49
  older than I am. Oh shit, it's like really good.
• 1:16:51
  That is so good. OK.
• 1:16:52
  It's so good, but yeah. Your answer was super evolved.
• 1:16:54
  I love that. Personally I would have started
• 1:16:56
  to fight with them and accused them of being unloyal to me for
• 1:16:59
  dating other people. It's like you didn't you mean
• 1:17:01
  your your future that you're going to be with me.
• 1:17:02
  Like what's up with that? You know what I mean?
• 1:17:04
  Yeah. Totally.
• 1:17:05
  Or I like playing like detective, like I'm really good
• 1:17:07
  at like investigating like I can be like.
• 1:17:08
  Anything fucking insane like I'm not getting Instagram.
• 1:17:12
  Oh, I investigate. Oh no, I'll be like, your ex was
• 1:17:16
  doing this on this day in this city, and then I was.
• 1:17:18
  Like I'm really. Weird.
• 1:17:19
  And where were you? Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  It's not even that hard like I have one of my really good
• 1:17:23
  friends in Nashville like she is like even better than me.
• 1:17:26
  She she uncovered this whole like scam with these people on
• 1:17:29
  TikTok tending to be disabled. What?
• 1:17:31
  That's fucking crazy. And it went viral.
• 1:17:33
  I'm like, it's crazy because she uncovered it and she literally
• 1:17:36
  just like looked at things on Google and she's like, you guys
• 1:17:38
  are crazy. They were taking donations and
• 1:17:39
  they were not disabled. That's fucked.
• 1:17:41
  Up I have to show you. It's crazy but she uncovered
• 1:17:43
  this whole like. That's a conspiracy.
• 1:17:44
  You know what? Yeah.
• 1:17:45
  I'm going to have to hire your friend.
• 1:17:46
  I have some investigations I need to get into as well.
• 1:17:49
  She said you're evolved. Loved your answer.
• 1:17:51
  Good advice. We have another one.
• 1:17:53
  So I hate my boyfriend's friends and they hate how he is when
• 1:17:55
  he's with them. What should I do?
• 1:17:58
  Tell them? Tell your boyfriend to drop his
• 1:18:01
  friends. I don't.
• 1:18:02
  I feel like that's logical now. I feel like I've maybe not been
• 1:18:05
  in this situation, but I know exactly what you're going
• 1:18:08
  through. Like I know exactly.
• 1:18:09
  I can totally see it and like it's a fine line because I guess
• 1:18:13
  you have to see when your boyfriend is with you.
• 1:18:15
  Like is he his true self? I mean, most likely he is
• 1:18:17
  because guys really have like people to talk to about their
• 1:18:19
  feelings. They're hardly just hang out
• 1:18:20
  with. So like, I don't know, it's so
• 1:18:24
  difficult though, because at the same time it's like he should be
• 1:18:26
  like man enough to be like to not feel like he has to like
• 1:18:28
  change his personality or like, you know, joke about things that
• 1:18:31
  are, you know, like if they're making fun of women or saying
• 1:18:33
  things bad, like kind of like with the Bros.
• 1:18:35
  I hate that shit. So it's kind of like a fine line
• 1:18:37
  between like, is he just like hanging with the Bros or is he
• 1:18:40
  like hiding who he really is or like not calling them out if
• 1:18:44
  they're doing dumb stuff or like saying rude things about women.
• 1:18:47
  I don't know. I guess it's something where
• 1:18:48
  like maybe the next time that you're around them, like kind of
• 1:18:51
  see the vibe because, you know, the truth is you are.
• 1:18:55
  I can tell more about you by the people you hang out with and
• 1:18:58
  than you because you can mask anything.
• 1:19:00
  People present themselves as whoever they want to be, right?
• 1:19:03
  But my mom has always said this. I'm sure many of our parents
• 1:19:07
  also said this. You can tell.
• 1:19:09
  Me, your friends, and I'll tell you your future.
• 1:19:11
  And so, you know, if he's around all these guys, even if when
• 1:19:14
  he's with you, that could be because he's with you and you
• 1:19:16
  are able to, you know, bring that side out of out of him.
• 1:19:18
  But if he if he has all these guy friends that are kind of,
• 1:19:20
  you know, a certain way, what makes you think that he's going
• 1:19:24
  to be different than them? Totally.
• 1:19:26
  Yeah. He should just get rid of them,
• 1:19:27
  honestly. Yeah, totally.
• 1:19:29
  Oh my God, I agree with you. Get rid of them, OK?
• 1:19:32
  So I really goodbye. You just got them off.
• 1:19:34
  Yeah. And then if anything, too,
• 1:19:35
  sometimes you have to, like, have that for them change.
• 1:19:37
  Like, you know, sometimes people need to mature and it's better
• 1:19:42
  to just, like, close the door now.
• 1:19:44
  Yeah, if there's a possibility, it will be something in the
• 1:19:47
  future. OK, I think fair, very mature
• 1:19:50
  answers by the way. OK, we have one more.
• 1:19:52
  So I really like this person but they live out of state and I'm
• 1:19:54
  not sure if I want to do a long distance relationship.
• 1:19:57
  I think long distance, I've never been in a long distance
• 1:20:00
  relationship, but I think it works if there's a time, if it's
• 1:20:02
  a finite or yeah, finite. So like it has to be for a
• 1:20:05
  reason. Like, yeah, only go into it if
• 1:20:08
  it's like, OK, I'm in this school program or I'm in this
• 1:20:11
  job, but in two years I know I'm going to be moving to this
• 1:20:13
  place. Like it has to have some sort of
• 1:20:15
  plan it you can't go into it like but.
• 1:20:16
  You would wait for them. Oh.
• 1:20:20
  Well, like, not really, but like I also wouldn't get into a like,
• 1:20:23
  I don't know, like I'd be like more people need to bring back
• 1:20:26
  like dating to get married. Like it doesn't mean you're
• 1:20:27
  going to get married right away, but it's like with the intention
• 1:20:29
  of like you either break up or you get married.
• 1:20:31
  So it's like just dating for fun.
• 1:20:32
  Don't you have to end it then? Why would you want to be in a
• 1:20:33
  long distance relationship if you can't see them?
• 1:20:35
  You're talking to someone on the phone?
• 1:20:36
  Talk to. Chat I don't think date I I'm
• 1:20:39
  not a subscriber to the idea of like dating to get married.
• 1:20:41
  Well, I like like love the idea of being married or whatever.
• 1:20:43
  I also think it's like you learn so much from someone, you get an
• 1:20:46
  experience from someone you can write about.
• 1:20:47
  Them Yeah, I need to get data like dating.
• 1:20:49
  The real word of dating is data. OK, it's like know what you do
• 1:20:52
  and don't like? Yeah, totally.
• 1:20:54
  Right. Right, Right.
• 1:20:54
  Right, right, right, right. So you know, like, Oh my gosh, I
• 1:20:56
  definitely don't want somebody like that or like, you know, I
• 1:20:59
  don't want to produce her. That's what you would say.
• 1:21:02
  Like that would be like your data you've got, you've got her.
• 1:21:04
  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You know that should be your
• 1:21:16
  counselor. Bitch, you saw out of pocket.
• 1:21:21
  See, that's the thing. I'm like, I've like just studied
• 1:21:22
  a lot. Like I've had a lot of friends.
• 1:21:23
  Like a lot of my friends are significantly older than me.
• 1:21:25
  Like they have, they're married with like children or and vice
• 1:21:28
  versa where I feel like I've been in this place where I've
• 1:21:30
  like, it's weird because I feel like I'm like the youngest, but
• 1:21:34
  I'm also like the oldest to certain friends.
• 1:21:36
  So it's like a weird balance where you feel like you're like,
• 1:21:38
  Oh my gosh, I'm like the mom to some friends.
• 1:21:39
  And I'm also like, wow, I'm learning from like my other
• 1:21:41
  friends, which is good. I feel like everyone needs to
• 1:21:43
  have older friends or you know, cousins, family members like
• 1:21:47
  that can kind of mentor you because, you know, I think it's
• 1:21:49
  important to like, yes, you have your friends around your age,
• 1:21:51
  but you need to get wisdom. I love like asking, you know,
• 1:21:55
  people older than me, because learning from people learning,
• 1:21:58
  yes, I love learning because there's like AI don't know what
• 1:22:01
  it I think it's a verse from Proverbs, but it's saying how
• 1:22:03
  like, you know, foolish people learn from their own mistakes,
• 1:22:06
  but wise people learn from the mistakes of fools.
• 1:22:09
  You can learn a lot by yes, you're still going to have to
• 1:22:12
  go. To the.
• 1:22:12
  But you can save a lot of time and energy because like, you
• 1:22:16
  know, I, I also think like, you know, you'll know if something
• 1:22:20
  is right and if something is worth pursuing, if there is that
• 1:22:23
  connection, you'll know. But don't just date because
• 1:22:26
  you're bored, because you have all of these talents and gifts
• 1:22:28
  and business ideas that you may not even realize it.
• 1:22:31
  But if you have this free time instead of, you know, working on
• 1:22:33
  your second business or working on your album or working on your
• 1:22:36
  project, you're going to be spending it with them, which is
• 1:22:37
  fair. But, you know, don't, don't give
• 1:22:41
  up your dreams or your goals for a guy, I would say, or like, you
• 1:22:45
  know, just to date out of boredom.
• 1:22:47
  Like, I don't know, I just feels like I see a lot of people just
• 1:22:51
  like get into a relationship and kind of do the thing that's
• 1:22:54
  normal of them. Like, OK, we're going to get
• 1:22:55
  married now, we're going to buy a house.
• 1:22:56
  But it's like, don't be afraid to like, go travel.
• 1:22:59
  Like go see what you really want to do.
• 1:23:00
  Like, you may not know yourself yet.
• 1:23:02
  You have to know yourself before getting into a relationship.
• 1:23:04
  We have to collect the data for it.
• 1:23:06
  For what you like, you know, like, and then other people,
• 1:23:09
  because ultimately it's like you're not looking for somebody
• 1:23:11
  to complete you. Like that's not fair.
• 1:23:13
  Nobody can complete you. And that person should not be
• 1:23:15
  your only source of happiness because that's insane to put on
• 1:23:17
  a person. Totally.
• 1:23:19
  But it should be like you guys are going to the same direction
• 1:23:22
  together. You're walking in alignment
• 1:23:24
  together and. Encouraging each other.
• 1:23:25
  I'm a big fan of growing with your person.
• 1:23:27
  Yes, I love that. And I also think it's important
• 1:23:29
  that it's also taking, I don't have to say this, not defining
• 1:23:34
  it in a way where it's like you putting pressure on it.
• 1:23:36
  You're my entire world, right? Yeah.
• 1:23:38
  No, it's like you compliment. It's like the balloon and the
• 1:23:40
  rock. Like I was saying, you
• 1:23:41
  complement each other in your own.
• 1:23:43
  I think I'm adding all of this to my personal data that I'm
• 1:23:46
  collecting so. OK.
• 1:23:47
  I love that. Thank you.
• 1:23:49
  Well Lily, this has been incredibly cinematic and we
• 1:23:52
  close out every show by manifesting together.
• 1:23:54
  Is there anything you want to speak into existence from
• 1:23:56
  Manifest right now here on the Lulu?
• 1:23:59
  Well, I would love to play Coachella sometime soon.
• 1:24:02
  I mean, I'm. I'm sure I probably will.
• 1:24:03
  You are. I would love to open for
• 1:24:05
  somebody on tour. And I just know I am because,
• 1:24:07
  you know, I love playing shows everywhere.
• 1:24:09
  Yeah. And.
• 1:24:10
  When you open for grants, he's about.
• 1:24:12
  To go on tour, I can't wait. Text Grant.
• 1:24:14
  Yeah, you can hit up his manager.
• 1:24:16
  He's a manager, I think. So maybe I don't know, but I
• 1:24:19
  just can't wait to go on tour. I just know it's going to end up
• 1:24:22
  being the right fit. But in the meantime, it's like
• 1:24:24
  because I believe that's like okay manifesting people think I
• 1:24:27
  just like say things I want and do it.
• 1:24:28
  No, the reason why it works is because you are identifying your
• 1:24:32
  goals. Did you know if you write down
• 1:24:33
  your goals like in your journal that you're going to start
• 1:24:35
  having like Ryan and I do? If you write down your goals in
• 1:24:38
  your journal, you're like 3 times more likely to achieve
• 1:24:40
  them because when you write them down, you will subconsciously
• 1:24:43
  take action and take steps to achieve that.
• 1:24:46
  So like me, it's like people are like, when is your tour?
• 1:24:48
  I always say like I'm getting, I'm preparing to go on tour.
• 1:24:50
  Like when are you touring? I'm like soon.
• 1:24:52
  I just don't have the date yet. But I train every day.
• 1:24:54
  You got to train my voice every day.
• 1:24:55
  I started running. Yeah, you have to prepare and
• 1:24:58
  get ready for that. Yeah.
• 1:24:59
  Because it's only crazy until it.
• 1:25:01
  Period. I know that's right.
• 1:25:03
  Anything else you're manifesting?
• 1:25:06
  I don't just excitement, I'm writing.
• 1:25:08
  You're so excited. I've started to write #2 I feel
• 1:25:10
  like I'm healed from the past. Maybe some new love interest,
• 1:25:13
  some new characters For almost at Season 2 for album 2.
• 1:25:16
  Yeah, no producers. You know, just, I feel like
• 1:25:20
  dating a producer would be so hard, at least for me in music,
• 1:25:21
  because I'm like, that's my safe space.
• 1:25:23
  It's like writing, making a song.
• 1:25:24
  I need it to be like neutral. Like my producers are often
• 1:25:26
  times like they're all married. And so I love it because they're
• 1:25:28
  like, Oh my God, that guy's a loser.
• 1:25:30
  And they're like, give me guy advice.
• 1:25:31
  Like from a guy perspective. Yeah, that's.
• 1:25:33
  Awesome. But yeah, I would just say, you
• 1:25:35
  know, being bold and who I am and just.
• 1:25:39
  I feel like you're really doing all of that though.
• 1:25:40
  And it will all happen. It will all happen at it's right
• 1:25:42
  time. But it's like being prepared
• 1:25:43
  because like luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
• 1:25:46
  And so it's even us. It's like, OK, we've been
• 1:25:48
  friends for a long time and then we just happen to see each
• 1:25:50
  other. You happen to be shooting to
• 1:25:53
  your podcast? I happen to be.
• 1:25:55
  They get ready. To happen to be in LA, like
• 1:25:56
  that's what I'm saying like, but we were prepared.
• 1:25:58
  Yeah, and look at us, we're lucky.
• 1:26:02
  I love that. I'm manifesting all that for you
• 1:26:03
  as well. I'm super excited.
• 1:26:04
  When you see our Coachella and everything, and obviously this
• 1:26:06
  album is incredible. And the fact that you're even
• 1:26:08
  thinking about working on album 2 right now, yeah, we're super
• 1:26:10
  excited. Keep us.
• 1:26:11
  Back, Keep us back. Yeah.
• 1:26:12
  And I have new things to say. Like, you know, it's like.
• 1:26:15
  And you've been living with this album for so long too, yes?
• 1:26:18
  It has been and like, I love, I always say like it's easier for
• 1:26:22
  me to dive into the creative process and like really dive
• 1:26:24
  into something, yeah, before moving on.
• 1:26:25
  But now I'm like, Oh my gosh, it's it's kind of scary when
• 1:26:28
  you're starting something new, whether it be a relationship, a
• 1:26:30
  project, career. Like I'm like, I don't know what
• 1:26:33
  album 2 could sound like. I don't know the theme, but it's
• 1:26:35
  fun. But that's so exciting.
• 1:26:36
  No, but yeah. And then when it's finished,
• 1:26:38
  we're gonna pull this up and gonna be like, this is the start
• 1:26:41
  of it, where you're like, yeah. Is that crazy?
• 1:26:44
  Yeah. But you.
• 1:26:44
  Gotta live life and then start writing it.
• 1:26:46
  Yes, but I'm excited to sit with cinematic because I feel like, I
• 1:26:49
  don't know, I feel like it's gonna bring up feelings,
• 1:26:52
  experiences. I'm sure I'll sure.
• 1:26:54
  I'm sure I'll have. People reaching out, thinking
• 1:26:55
  about them. Mr. Hollywood will spin the
• 1:26:57
  block again, I'm sure people. Don't always think like songs
• 1:26:59
  about them. And I'm like, no, this is not
• 1:27:00
  about. You yeah.
• 1:27:02
  Fuck that's crazy. Love that.
• 1:27:04
  Humble their asses. Yeah, it's more of like a
• 1:27:08
  unfortunately like I don't feel anything for you.
• 1:27:10
  OK. Quick question.
• 1:27:12
  So you mentioned a couple weeks ago that you don't cuss anymore.
• 1:27:15
  Yeah. So why I'm?
• 1:27:17
  Just because I'm trying to be more classy.
• 1:27:19
  Totally classy girl. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:27:22
  Love that. Wait, it's hell cussing to you,
• 1:27:24
  huh? No.
• 1:27:25
  OK. Because that's in a lot of your.
• 1:27:26
  Because I realize like I guess it'd be like things that are
• 1:27:30
  that would classify as like explicit.
• 1:27:32
  So then you have to put an explicit things when you have to
• 1:27:33
  report 2 versions, mainly because two, it's like, I've, I
• 1:27:37
  identified this. Like I started listening to
• 1:27:39
  Taylor Swift and, you know, when I was really young, like
• 1:27:41
  probably like 10 or 11. And I like talk to a lot of
• 1:27:43
  people whose young daughters want to listen to music, but
• 1:27:45
  they're like a lot of the music these days is explicit and they
• 1:27:48
  need, they want somebody where they could put it on and off to
• 1:27:49
  worry about, Oh, they're going to say the F word.
• 1:27:51
  Are they going to say something? So like in my music, I'm like,
• 1:27:53
  unless it's really intentional, like, you know, when it's called
• 1:27:56
  for, I think so. But when it's like, but when
• 1:27:59
  it's done too much where it's like, OK, you're just doing this
• 1:28:01
  like to get a reaction out of people.
• 1:28:03
  It's like they always say like comedians can do like a set with
• 1:28:05
  no cussing. And that's how you know their
• 1:28:07
  you're a good comedian. Oh, interesting.
• 1:28:09
  OK, that's new love that I'm going to start carrying that
• 1:28:12
  into my life right now for my. Like elegant, this new, this new
• 1:28:16
  version of Ryan, I feel like it's feel like cinematic
• 1:28:18
  transforms you. I'm super classy.
• 1:28:21
  It's just like, it's this new thing of like, you know what,
• 1:28:22
  knowing your enchantment, like you are cinematic.
• 1:28:25
  You are the star. Thank you.
• 1:28:27
  Wait claiming all of that wait. Thank you.
• 1:28:29
  So flip flopping much all of that.
• 1:28:33
  Thank you so much. Yes, OK, well, besties, thank
• 1:28:36
  you so much for watching this episode of delulu.
• 1:28:37
  This was your healthy dose of delulu so you can go live your
• 1:28:40
  true Lulu bestie Lulu, real Lulu, Lily Lulu.
• 1:28:44
  Thank you for being a guest. Where can the besties find you?
• 1:28:46
  Thank you for having me. Of course, y'all can find me
• 1:28:49
  everywhere, but you can find me Spotify, Apple, YouTube,
• 1:28:53
  Instagram, TikTok X all these things, right?
• 1:28:56
  Just search my name LILYKINCADE. You can also head to my website,
• 1:29:01
  lilykincaid.com to check out the the blog post.
• 1:29:04
  I know I love blogging. That's a new edition because I
• 1:29:07
  felt like Carrie Bradshaw and I was like, I really like this.
• 1:29:09
  I like this. I like this vibe.
• 1:29:10
  I'm by my computer. Like I really like the vibe.
• 1:29:12
  You can also shop the merch and get yourself a cinematic blank.
• 1:29:16
  But yeah. And stay up to date with, you
• 1:29:18
  know, future tour dates and shows.
• 1:29:20
  And yeah. And Lily's debut album,
• 1:29:23
  Cinematic is out now. Go stream it.
• 1:29:26
  This is such an incredible project.
• 1:29:27
  It's been a long time in the making and we're so proud of
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  Oh. My gosh.
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  Wait, Yeah, I've been like our craziest journal entries.
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  Oh my, shit's fucking crazy. I have everything documented.
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  I'm also too like, don't ever like, you know, if I ever had to
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  go to court for some reason, I'm like, you could not even I have
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  everything like photocopy emailed.
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  Sent you got receipts? Receipts.
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  My shit's crazy as fuck and I say everything.
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  I say other people's secrets. Too all screenshots I have
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  It's mainly because, but it started as like a sad thing.
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  Like that's why real. Like don't say it wasn't real
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  Now I'm like, no, I have the proof.
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