Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #575 - Peysoh Talks Kendrick Co-Sign, MoneySign Suede, Facing Life at 15, New Album 'Finally Fed' & More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yo Bootleg cap podcast special guests here. His new album
- 0:03Speaker 1: comes out Friday, highly anticipated Body Your Work. I know
- 0:06Speaker 1: you just dropped the EP, but you're coming right back
- 0:07Speaker 1: with the full full length album. Oh yeah, Paesos here,
- 0:11Speaker 1: How you doing? Man?
- 0:12Speaker 2: The worry my boy? How you doing? I'm doing good?
- 0:13Speaker 2: Thank you fast.
- 0:14Speaker 1: No one's doing as good as you because I just
- 0:16Speaker 1: saw the car you pulled up in and all this
- 0:17Speaker 1: damn jewely you got on. Like what's going on? Man?
- 0:21Speaker 2: Man? Just just a young man having his way out here?
- 0:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that. What would you say, because like
- 0:28Speaker 1: I feel like you're an independent artist and you've done
- 0:30Speaker 1: a really good job of like staying out of the
- 0:32Speaker 1: way of like doing any goofy shit, but also like
- 0:35Speaker 1: building your fan base like brick by brick, and obviously
- 0:38Speaker 1: it's worked out for you. Like what would you say
- 0:39Speaker 1: is like kind of been like your secret sauce since
- 0:41Speaker 1: getting out and kind of picking right back up where
- 0:44Speaker 1: you left off.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Shit really ain't no secret sauce, honestly, just the really
- 0:50Speaker 2: just my people just uplifting me, and shit, that's really
- 0:54Speaker 2: that's really it. And then on top of like the
- 0:57Speaker 2: Mexican community just fully fucking me the blacks and break
- 1:00Speaker 2: the fuck out of me too. So that's been a
- 1:02Speaker 2: very like, you know, amazing thing to be able to accomplish,
- 1:07Speaker 2: you know, right, Yeah.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Not for sure, do you feel like because I do
- 1:12Speaker 1: feel like you get a lot of respect that a
- 1:15Speaker 1: lot of artists who are Mexican like really like like
- 1:19Speaker 1: you said, like you get accepted by a lot of
- 1:20Speaker 1: communities within hip hop exactly. That's not easy for you.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Like what do you think it is about you that
- 1:26Speaker 1: like people have just embraced in general, I don't know,
- 1:31Speaker 1: just yourself.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Quiet out the way. Yeah that's crazy too, because it's
- 1:37Speaker 1: like it's kind of crazy because you were locked up
- 1:39Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Right by the time you
- 1:41Speaker 1: get out, like I feel like everything kind of got
- 1:43Speaker 1: all of a sudden. There's all these huge ig pages
- 1:46Speaker 1: that are like kind of dedicated to like Latin hip hop,
- 1:48Speaker 1: and like the space is a lot different, right because
- 1:55Speaker 1: you know, money Sign Swede was cracking before you got out,
- 1:58Speaker 1: you were you're obviously doing your thing, but when you
- 2:00Speaker 1: get out, it's like, I feel like Mexican hip hop
- 2:01Speaker 1: became like a thing where, you know, major labels are
- 2:05Speaker 1: starting to call and trying to sign full.
- 2:06Speaker 2: I think like before Sweden, it was just like basically
- 2:10Speaker 2: like mainly like Chikano rap, like.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Right, it was like the first dude that like he
- 2:15Speaker 1: was on Atlanta.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Came with like the vibe shit and switched it up
- 2:18Speaker 2: and and he tried short line shot the oh yeah
- 2:20Speaker 2: yeah for sure, oh yeah yeah, hell yeah gez. They
- 2:24Speaker 2: they brought it like a different flavor to like this
- 2:27Speaker 2: rap ship. But before that it was just like really
- 2:29Speaker 2: Chekano rap and like like little all heads, long socks,
- 2:34Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. Like it wasn't really
- 2:35Speaker 2: like swaggy ship, right, like dressing dressing with the Truths
- 2:42Speaker 2: and the Robins and ship like that, you know, you
- 2:45Speaker 2: mixing it up like Pro Club with Robbins and like
- 2:47Speaker 2: fly Kicks. It was like a new new little flavor
- 2:51Speaker 2: and ship. So it kind of like it was it
- 2:52Speaker 2: was gonna be the hit, hit or miss, you.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Know, the giant shorts with the socks and the Corteses
- 2:58Speaker 1: and the giant test like with the low.
- 3:00Speaker 2: That's like right there, you know, shout out, shout out
- 3:03Speaker 2: to our roots, man.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Ye shot all those guys their legends for sure.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate.
- 3:07Speaker 1: So, like, did you grow up listening to like empty
- 3:09Speaker 1: Magic or anything. Would you play MC magic for your
- 3:10Speaker 1: bitches or anything back in the day.
- 3:12Speaker 2: No, not really, to be honest, I grew up off
- 3:14Speaker 2: like My Deep and ship shot to my like myb
- 3:17Speaker 2: Deep and shit.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I just spent a serious amount of money on a
- 3:20Speaker 1: My Deep poster. Spent almost three hundred bucks.
- 3:25Speaker 2: That's pretty y.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Yeah. I was at this fucking hip hop store in
- 3:28Speaker 1: Phoenix and they had this framed Hell on Earth poster
- 3:31Speaker 1: and uh sh it was fired dog, So it's not here,
- 3:35Speaker 1: it's at the crib. No, it's not here, it's at
- 3:38Speaker 1: the crib. It's fired though. I was like what, I
- 3:40Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, I'll take it shot to trail in Phoenix.
- 3:43Speaker 1: That's crazy. You grew up listening to like some real dope.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah Wu Tang my Deep.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Who put you onto that ship?
- 3:49Speaker 2: My uncle?
- 3:50Speaker 1: So your uncle was like a hip hop Yeah yeah.
- 3:52Speaker 2: No, he had real hip hop head, like like hip
- 3:54Speaker 2: hop head like crazy.
- 3:56Speaker 1: So he was bumping Wu Tang and my Lot of
- 3:58Speaker 1: New York ship.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Do you feel like that that that ship kind of
- 4:01Speaker 1: had some sort of influence on like your just appreciation
- 4:05Speaker 1: for hip hop in general.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure, like it for show boosting
- 4:12Speaker 2: my paying game for sure.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:14Speaker 2: I soaked in a lot of game from it. I
- 4:16Speaker 2: like like the like how real it is? Like you
- 4:19Speaker 2: know how it sounds and Ship the ship they saying,
- 4:21Speaker 2: and ship it don't sound like like you know, like
- 4:25Speaker 2: the new Ship.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very raws like you listening to like thirty
- 4:28Speaker 1: six Chambers like Rizard production. It sounds like.
- 4:31Speaker 2: I wanted to say that, but I didn't know how
- 4:32Speaker 2: it was gonna come out, like you know, I didn't
- 4:34Speaker 2: want to say I like it raw, like you know.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Hey man, there's a whole generation to kids who gotta
- 4:40Speaker 1: stop tripping on eating hot. That's not even a weird
- 4:44Speaker 1: thing to say, like, oh dB got a whole song
- 4:47Speaker 1: where somebody likes it raw? Who baby, I like it
- 4:50Speaker 1: wrang Yeah.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Yeah no, not just I like like, you know, how
- 4:54Speaker 2: how how like real it is?
- 4:56Speaker 1: Like you know, like you call it dusty nice dusty
- 4:59Speaker 1: hip hop?
- 4:59Speaker 2: Yeah, he says ship, like for sure that boom back
- 5:01Speaker 2: the way it hits it in the core and ship.
- 5:03Speaker 2: I like that.
- 5:04Speaker 1: So you still listen to that ship?
- 5:05Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 5:06Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's up to you listen to the new
- 5:09Speaker 1: Clips album. Mm hmm, that Ship's fire. It's very good,
- 5:14Speaker 1: very checking out. If you appreciate some good, good rap ship,
- 5:18Speaker 1: you will appreciate that. Have you ever? I feel like
- 5:21Speaker 1: it'd be dope to see like link up with someone
- 5:22Speaker 1: like the Alchemist. You know, the Alchemist is the producer Alchemist.
- 5:26Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I've probably heard his taggers.
- 5:28Speaker 1: He's he's like legendary l a guy, but he's worked
- 5:32Speaker 1: with like he just did a whole album of Larry
- 5:33Speaker 1: June and two Change. You got a whole album of
- 5:36Speaker 1: Freddie Gibson. I feel like you guys, it would kind
- 5:38Speaker 1: of put him out of his comfort zone and put
- 5:40Speaker 1: you out of your comfort zone a little bit. Some
- 5:42Speaker 1: l A ship for sure. That'll be dope to al Man.
- 5:45Speaker 1: You got a lot of features on this new album.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Talk about why is the album called Finally Fed? Obviously
- 5:49Speaker 1: if you've seen the cover the cover, I loved how
- 5:52Speaker 1: you the rollout because you would unblur someone's face a
- 5:55Speaker 1: little bit at a time.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Finally fat it is basically like like motherfucker being hungry
- 6:01Speaker 2: this whole time, like and I'm finally about to eat,
- 6:03Speaker 2: Like you know, to take this ship to the next level.
- 6:06Speaker 1: If you're finally about to eat, what do you call
- 6:08Speaker 1: what you've been doing?
- 6:10Speaker 2: Shit starving?
- 6:11Speaker 1: What does that mean when you motherfucker you how much
- 6:14Speaker 1: was this chain you got on? You're starving and everyone
- 6:16Speaker 1: else is starting.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Different starving though you know I'm not. That's the thing
- 6:22Speaker 2: about me, Like I'm never like satisfied with the fuck
- 6:24Speaker 2: I have. Grateful for sure, but never satisfied, right, you know,
- 6:28Speaker 2: like I always want more and more and more, Like
- 6:32Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be like I want to see everybody
- 6:34Speaker 2: around me like this, you know, everybody like you know,
- 6:38Speaker 2: everybody pulling. I want to see ten may bag trucks
- 6:40Speaker 2: outside right, not one? You feel me?
- 6:42Speaker 1: What were you able to do the tax right off
- 6:45Speaker 1: with the mayback truck since it weighs over six thousand pounds?
- 6:48Speaker 2: Uh uh yeah, put my account and he better be
- 6:51Speaker 2: on it.
- 6:51Speaker 1: So, so if you buy a truck like that, just
- 6:53Speaker 1: make sure you write it off and buy it as
- 6:54Speaker 1: your business truck.
- 6:55Speaker 2: You know, I spend everything on my business.
- 6:58Speaker 1: I don't every couple of years, I'll just buy a
- 7:00Speaker 1: new heavy car. You know what I'm saying, Like, damn,
- 7:02Speaker 1: I need a tax right off. Let me just buy
- 7:03Speaker 1: a fucking suburban or a cyber truck.
- 7:06Speaker 2: That's all you got. The cyber truck.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Yeah fuck yeah, I wrote that bit shot.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Yeah I won't one.
- 7:11Speaker 1: It's cool, but your car is a bunch nicer.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like the cyber trick. Don't downplay it.
- 7:16Speaker 1: That's no, it's it's cool. It's cool. It's different. It's
- 7:19Speaker 1: like driving around in like a Halo car. It's like
- 7:21Speaker 1: driving around in an idea.
- 7:23Speaker 2: What the fuck?
- 7:25Speaker 1: Yeah, that's dope. You'd be in the cyber truck and idea.
- 7:29Speaker 1: It's like that. I'm like, this feels like it shouldn't
- 7:33Speaker 1: exist type shit, you know, and then it drives itself.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Oh shit, doesn't. And it's bulletproof, and.
- 7:38Speaker 1: It's bulletproof ish ish like a twenty two won't get through.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Nine we'll get through.
- 7:44Speaker 1: I think a nine won't get through either.
- 7:45Speaker 2: What about seven six two?
- 7:47Speaker 1: I think that might get through. But if someone just
- 7:50Speaker 1: shot at you with the glock, as long as you're
- 7:52Speaker 1: not in the like they hit the door, you're good.
- 7:55Speaker 1: The bulletproof cars are expensive, Yeah, I know. It's probably
- 7:57Speaker 1: the cheapest bulletproof car ever made. The windows aren't.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Bulletproof, though, so what the is the point that you.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Just dug down. Someone start shooting you. Get down, man,
- 8:07Speaker 1: Just hope that they just hit the door.
- 8:08Speaker 2: You know.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Now the windows are just normal windows. Hard to bit
- 8:13Speaker 1: a cyber truck though, because the windows aren't like you've
- 8:18Speaker 1: been bipped. M someone crack the window. Take anything out
- 8:21Speaker 1: of your car, and how the cops bipped you? They
- 8:25Speaker 1: take anything?
- 8:27Speaker 2: Yeah, the TV's out the back of the car and
- 8:32Speaker 2: they fucked up the steering wheel.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Damn, that's fucked up. That's crazy. Do you feel like
- 8:38Speaker 1: for you, man, like, you know, is it always something
- 8:43Speaker 1: because I feel like you're in la Man. It feels
- 8:45Speaker 1: like if the cops know who you are, right, No.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Not necessarily if the cops know who you are.
- 8:51Speaker 1: But but I'm saying like, obviously you've been you've been
- 8:52Speaker 1: locked up, like you have a high profile, but you
- 8:55Speaker 1: don't move like a dumb ass. No, But do you
- 8:58Speaker 1: feel like that the tension is on you a lot
- 9:01Speaker 1: more like if you go out doing music video, shoot
- 9:03Speaker 1: some ship.
- 9:04Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and be like, oh my god.
- 9:06Speaker 2: It's mainly when we be in the neighborhood, right, you know,
- 9:09Speaker 2: we be in the neighborhood and they feel like, oh
- 9:11Speaker 2: the fuck the motherfucker's up to, Like if we're just
- 9:14Speaker 2: doing some regular ship where they know, like we're not
- 9:17Speaker 2: like realistically, like if we fucking somewhere shooting the video,
- 9:23Speaker 2: like around the neighborhood, they're not gonna come and fuck
- 9:26Speaker 2: with us. But if we out and fucking on the
- 9:31Speaker 2: street fifty homies, they for gonna come shut that ship down.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Like what the fuck y'all got going on?
- 9:35Speaker 1: Right?
- 9:35Speaker 2: You know? But nah, I mean, for the most part,
- 9:41Speaker 2: for the most part, is better when they when they
- 9:43Speaker 2: when they know when they know you, because I get
- 9:45Speaker 2: pulled over, they already know, like, yeah, okay, cool. Unless
- 9:48Speaker 2: I have a warn or something, they're gonna trip and
- 9:50Speaker 2: do all that extra ship. But now, for the most part,
- 9:52Speaker 2: is cool, like they all they all know me, okay, cool,
- 9:55Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna take the car real quick. You're
- 9:56Speaker 2: on parole. Cool, and that's it.
- 9:58Speaker 1: My way, keep it going, keep the So you just
- 10:01Speaker 1: obviously you have to be up very on top of
- 10:03Speaker 1: your p's and q's, which I feel like, you know,
- 10:06Speaker 1: I feel like when someone because I feel like you
- 10:07Speaker 1: were kind of like you had this trajectory going and
- 10:09Speaker 1: then you had to go sit down, and it was like,
- 10:13Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people can take that situation
- 10:16Speaker 1: and either learn from it or you're lost in the sauce.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Do a little meditation in there, get your mind right,
- 10:22Speaker 1: or get out. I mean, cause you get you you
- 10:24Speaker 1: were locked up, you're with seventeen fifteen or sixteen, or
- 10:27Speaker 1: you were like young young, So what was it about
- 10:31Speaker 1: like that experience for you that you were able to
- 10:33Speaker 1: like learn from and then instead of you getting out
- 10:36Speaker 1: and continuing to crash out and do stupid shit like
- 10:38Speaker 1: actually kind of like I feel like you leveled up
- 10:41Speaker 1: mentally when you got.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Out, Like what was my turning point? Type?
- 10:47Speaker 1: Yeah, like when you were like I can only imagine, bro,
- 10:49Speaker 1: You're sitting in the cell, like, like, what are the
- 10:51Speaker 1: things you're thinking about? Like, yo, you like plotting the
- 10:53Speaker 1: like Yo, if I get another chance and this rap shit.
- 10:57Speaker 2: I'm definitely I definitely did think about like if I
- 11:00Speaker 2: got another chance, because I didn't know when I was
- 11:02Speaker 2: gonna come home at first, right or I wasn't going
- 11:04Speaker 2: to come home at first, you know, And then a
- 11:08Speaker 2: lot of people helped out and ship you know, got
- 11:10Speaker 2: me the chance to be able to be out on
- 11:15Speaker 2: the streets. Again and ship, But yeah, I definitely did
- 11:20Speaker 2: think about like what what would I do differently if
- 11:22Speaker 2: I came home, like uh, like different plans to you know,
- 11:32Speaker 2: like like like how Park said he's studying everybody's weakness.
- 11:35Speaker 2: I was steading a lot of people's weakness, Like okay,
- 11:37Speaker 2: like you know, if I do come home this, I
- 11:40Speaker 2: gotta do it like this, I gotta do this. I
- 11:41Speaker 2: gotta do that, Like I gotta show, like, you know,
- 11:44Speaker 2: be versatile, like learn different flows, like you got nothing
- 11:47Speaker 2: better to do?
- 11:48Speaker 1: Were you in there writing a lot? Oh hell yeah, yeah.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Like crazy every day.
- 11:53Speaker 1: But like I already stop writing. Man, everybody's doing punch it.
- 11:55Speaker 2: I still write to this day.
- 11:56Speaker 1: I don't punch.
- 11:59Speaker 2: It's cool.
- 12:00Speaker 1: It's cool.
- 12:00Speaker 2: But to me, it's like if you're a rapper, like
- 12:02Speaker 2: a rap like melodically, like it's good.
- 12:05Speaker 1: If you're doing melodies, it makes sense.
- 12:06Speaker 2: But if you're like trying to like really when you're
- 12:09Speaker 2: trying to put them in here, you gotta put.
- 12:10Speaker 1: That ship down, you know what I'm saying. Put some
- 12:11Speaker 1: intent between them line.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
- 12:14Speaker 1: So you get out of like how much how much?
- 12:16Speaker 1: How much like dope pads? Were you able to take
- 12:18Speaker 1: all your wraps with you.
- 12:18Speaker 2: I got like about like fifteen front and back.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Were you able to like apply any of those raps
- 12:23Speaker 1: to any beats?
- 12:24Speaker 2: I haven't opened them yet. Oh so you haven't even no,
- 12:26Speaker 2: no yet.
- 12:27Speaker 1: You should just do a whole fucking album.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Yeah no, we haven't already ready. But it's just like
- 12:32Speaker 2: a real intimate, like you know what I'm saying. So
- 12:36Speaker 2: it's gonna be some ship.
- 12:37Speaker 1: That's a dope concept album though, Like Yo, this whole
- 12:38Speaker 1: album I wrote while I was in prison.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be called emotionally unstable.
- 12:42Speaker 1: That's fire. Yeah, that's gonna be big man.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Hell yeah, that's the Ghetto Journal. Chapter two I dropped
- 12:48Speaker 2: through when I first got busted. I was busted when
- 12:50Speaker 2: it when it rolled out. Yeah, so yeah, it's gonna
- 12:52Speaker 2: be a chapter two.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Do you feel like you getting locked up kind of
- 12:55Speaker 1: like added to the allure of like you as an artist?
- 12:58Speaker 2: Oh no, not really, because I was already like they're
- 13:00Speaker 2: out prior to that and everybody already knew that. So
- 13:02Speaker 2: not really, but it definitely did like level me up mentally,
- 13:08Speaker 2: and it made me like realize, like, can't be taking
- 13:11Speaker 2: it like this for granted.
- 13:12Speaker 1: For sure man, for sure. Yo. You got some pretty
- 13:14Speaker 1: crazy features on this album though, like you, it's damn
- 13:17Speaker 1: near a compilation though. You got to feature on almost
- 13:19Speaker 1: every fucking record.
- 13:20Speaker 2: Yeah, almost every record a reason being like from my
- 13:24Speaker 2: whole time, I surfaced or like scratched the you know,
- 13:28Speaker 2: scratched the little board. I never really put on no features,
- 13:31Speaker 2: right I did. Rouchie Hike, I think, yes, Sway put
- 13:37Speaker 2: out a song with us. Rouchie Chike swayed and like Mazi,
- 13:42Speaker 2: I want to say that's it. Don't quote me on it,
- 13:45Speaker 2: but I want to say that shit. I've been out
- 13:48Speaker 2: since twenty twenty. We're in twenty five. That's like five
- 13:50Speaker 2: six years. Wait, no, did I come out twenty twelve
- 13:54Speaker 2: or twenty nineteen, something like that? Five or six years
- 13:58Speaker 2: and I've only put out like three four features.
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- 14:48Speaker 1: Signs swaight on two records.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Yeah, ill you.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Like like, have you had those verses from them or
- 14:54Speaker 1: did you have to get them from from those people?
- 14:57Speaker 2: The one that we recorded Bay Vibes in the Bay.
- 15:01Speaker 2: We went up to the Bay, we went on tour
- 15:04Speaker 2: all up north and we recorded out there. And then
- 15:08Speaker 2: the other one was a tuck like it was tucked away.
- 15:10Speaker 1: This is some ship that you've had?
- 15:11Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that?
- 15:13Speaker 1: Like I always wonder like if someone like passes away,
- 15:15Speaker 1: it's like harder you have to just talk to his people,
- 15:18Speaker 1: like to make his people my people. You know what
- 15:21Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, like yo, I'm gonna put him on
- 15:22Speaker 1: the album type of ships I heard he's got like
- 15:25Speaker 1: an album coming.
- 15:26Speaker 2: He has a lot of ship in the cut. Yeah
- 15:27Speaker 2: he not hes gonna He's gonna be dropping music for
- 15:29Speaker 2: a long time for you, Like, uh, nephew just started
- 15:32Speaker 2: rapping too young? Yeah young, No, he's like about my
- 15:37Speaker 2: ajor year older.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Was that something for you? Man? Like sad? You know,
- 15:42Speaker 1: him losing his life could have been something that you
- 15:44Speaker 1: went through. You know what I'm saying behind bars and ship,
- 15:47Speaker 1: Like how did that affect you? Because you know if
- 15:50Speaker 1: it sucked me up?
- 15:50Speaker 2: Bad man overdose a lot after that when I was
- 15:54Speaker 2: locked up over those like five six times after that
- 15:57Speaker 2: on what bullshit. It's embarrassing even talking about it, like
- 16:03Speaker 2: real drugs not really fetano?
- 16:07Speaker 1: Did you know it was fetanal? Like in there do
- 16:09Speaker 1: you guys know?
- 16:10Speaker 2: It was like hit or but let take this pill.
- 16:13Speaker 2: You might die. Take this pill?
- 16:15Speaker 1: Be high damn. Like so you were just like sad
- 16:18Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm trying to dumb this ship. Fucked up,
- 16:21Speaker 1: fucked up, that's crazy how like did you like get
- 16:27Speaker 1: to the point where you thought you like were gonna
- 16:28Speaker 1: die at any point in time.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I died like six times.
- 16:31Speaker 1: It's fucking crazy.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Promb me backs hospital that kind of ship.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Jesus was like here, like who found it yourself? Mate?
- 16:38Speaker 2: Now it's just like you know, it wasn't just me, Like,
- 16:40Speaker 2: it's just a few other homies, Uh, a few of
- 16:44Speaker 2: the one of the homies passed away risking people.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get hooked to that ship at all? Uh?
- 16:50Speaker 2: Yeah? Low key?
- 16:51Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Well, I feel like what else you're gonna
- 16:53Speaker 1: do in there?
- 16:53Speaker 2: Was walking around like you know, I wasn't. I wasn't
- 16:55Speaker 2: doing the hardcore ship like hair on and you know,
- 16:57Speaker 2: black and ship like that. Like I wasn't doing crazy
- 17:00Speaker 2: ship like that. But yeah, just mainly peels and shipping
- 17:05Speaker 2: lean and ship smoking.
- 17:06Speaker 1: You just get lean in jail, that's fucking crazy.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Well not everybody, you know, not everybody can get it.
- 17:13Speaker 1: They get lean out here nowadays. I don't know.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Yeah no, but yeah, I was just winding out. So
- 17:18Speaker 2: I was already kind of like like playing like like
- 17:22Speaker 2: passing my time, enjoying my time like before that. But
- 17:25Speaker 2: after sway that I was like, oh no, this ain't
- 17:27Speaker 2: gonna do it, Like damn, I was fucked up.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine, Bro, that's that's crazy. I'm glad you got
- 17:33Speaker 1: on either side of it. Yeah, you've you're you're obviously
- 17:36Speaker 1: clean off all that ship. Now.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been clean even before that, I was clean.
- 17:39Speaker 1: What's that was that? Was that? Like? Was it those
- 17:42Speaker 1: types like those situations that kind of made you be like, yeah,
- 17:44Speaker 1: I can't do.
- 17:44Speaker 2: No, I've never been I don't have a I don't
- 17:47Speaker 2: have a like, yeah, I.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Don't have that stopping quicken you want.
- 17:52Speaker 2: To even then, like it doesn't like I don't be
- 17:55Speaker 2: like oh my god, like I want to drink to
- 17:57Speaker 2: have fun, Like I've never being that, Like I don't
- 18:01Speaker 2: have it.
- 18:02Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Man.
- 18:03Speaker 1: I'm glad. You're fucking glad you're here for real, Glad
- 18:06Speaker 1: you made it. Man, what was for you on this album?
- 18:11Speaker 1: You know what I liked about you were obviously working
- 18:13Speaker 1: with the boy, working with Mazi. I think it's important
- 18:15Speaker 1: to kind of like continue to bridge the gap between
- 18:17Speaker 1: like Northern California and Southern California artists because I feel
- 18:20Speaker 1: like there has been like, especially on the Latin side,
- 18:24Speaker 1: there's been like a weird divide. But for you, like
- 18:28Speaker 1: is that important for you to be able to you know,
- 18:31Speaker 1: feed and and tapping with the Bay Area.
- 18:35Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely dope. But I'm just another pawn on
- 18:38Speaker 2: the board. You know that that that the division is
- 18:42Speaker 2: way bigger than me. You know, I'm just a normal
- 18:44Speaker 2: human being, that's.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Right, Not for sure, for sure? What was your what's
- 18:49Speaker 1: your favorite feature you got on this album? Like when
- 18:51Speaker 1: you heard it, you were.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Like, damn man, so much amazing artists on that. I
- 18:56Speaker 2: can't I can't pig They all dope in they way,
- 18:59Speaker 2: you know, for sure, Majie, he been my favorite, one
- 19:03Speaker 2: of my favorite reppords for a long time. He tapped
- 19:06Speaker 2: in like early on to like his team davel shout
- 19:09Speaker 2: out dab her real one. For sure, they will hear
- 19:12Speaker 2: a real one right there. They will keep me out
- 19:14Speaker 2: the streets for a long time too. Really hell yeah,
- 19:16Speaker 2: when I was on the running ship, like he was like,
- 19:18Speaker 2: man like you need a spy, like coach stay here,
- 19:20Speaker 2: coach they here, like you know, he was like studio like,
- 19:23Speaker 2: he'll keep me in a pseudo like all the fucking time,
- 19:25Speaker 2: like allre you. I'll tell him all like you know, like, oh,
- 19:28Speaker 2: I got a flat all right, I'm about to send
- 19:30Speaker 2: you a black drug.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Was one of the best guys in the game.
- 19:33Speaker 2: That's my boy right there.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Like I got up working with bad Baby on this album.
- 19:37Speaker 2: That's just random as funn She's doing her ship right now.
- 19:41Speaker 1: No, for sure. She feels like she's gonna beat up
- 19:43Speaker 1: Travis Scott's daughter any day now. Travis Scott, Travis Barker's daughter.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Sorry Scott is crazy Alabama Barker.
- 19:51Speaker 2: Travis Goott is a daughter.
- 19:53Speaker 1: I'm sure he does. Who does? But I was talking
- 19:55Speaker 1: about Travis Barker's daughter. But how the fuck did that happen?
- 20:00Speaker 2: Ship? I think we connected it. We connected it on
- 20:04Speaker 2: social media. She I'm on one of her songs. I
- 20:10Speaker 2: believe with me and Doug. Shout out to Dug, shout
- 20:13Speaker 2: out to Yeah. They She shown me like a song
- 20:18Speaker 2: and ship and then I had a song because I
- 20:22Speaker 2: really don't make music for females and ship, you know,
- 20:25Speaker 2: And I was like I need to step out of
- 20:28Speaker 2: my comfort.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Zone, like yeah, man, bitches like you dog man.
- 20:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:32Speaker 1: So finally fed for real, for real.
- 20:34Speaker 2: So so I was like, you know what, I'm gonna
- 20:36Speaker 2: try to make some ship like that, like the girls
- 20:40Speaker 2: could like try to vibe two. I guess I don't
- 20:43Speaker 2: know because it's really out of my comforts on to
- 20:45Speaker 2: make you know, music.
- 20:46Speaker 1: I feel like you got to make some some I
- 20:48Speaker 1: feel like you're the kind of guy.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Now I got enough time, bro, like I got I'm
- 20:52Speaker 2: growing every day as.
- 20:54Speaker 1: You gotta drop one of them like R and B
- 20:55Speaker 1: records and records.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Now, I'm here for a long time. I'm here for
- 21:01Speaker 2: a long time, so I definitely got.
- 21:03Speaker 1: For the lovelies as Sam's you know, yeah, the hof bro,
- 21:08Speaker 1: that's crazy. Hey. By the way, yeah, have you been
- 21:13Speaker 1: to Jaguars in Phoenix? I gotta take you Jack.
- 21:15Speaker 2: I've never left l A, brother, You've never left actually,
- 21:17Speaker 2: you know what I'm lying. When I went on to
- 21:19Speaker 2: the Phoenix, we went to AZ and Seattle, damn.
- 21:22Speaker 1: So you've only been there l A in Seattle, in
- 21:26Speaker 1: Vegas to Vegas.
- 21:28Speaker 2: That's the farthest though, But you've never been Texas. You
- 21:33Speaker 2: gotta go to Texas eventually.
- 21:35Speaker 1: We gotta go kill some pigs with Mexicano.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Tea eventually when it gets cold, though, I don't.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Like, are you are you? Like? Do you have travel
- 21:42Speaker 1: restrictions off are no I have I.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Have no no, No, they're they're very lenient with my
- 21:48Speaker 2: with my line of work. They're very lenient.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Like you got to go to New York. Yeah, you'll
- 21:53Speaker 1: go freeze your ass off. I don't.
- 21:55Speaker 2: I don't fly for I don't like playing dog like.
- 22:00Speaker 1: You've never flown.
- 22:01Speaker 2: I've never flown and I never will.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Wait, you've never taken a flight. We should just go
- 22:06Speaker 1: hop on a fucking spirit flight. Nah, it starts you.
- 22:09Speaker 1: It's just starts you right at the bottom and will
- 22:11Speaker 1: vlog the whole thing.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'll all freak dude.
- 22:15Speaker 1: We'll fly to We'll fly the fucking riverside. It'll be
- 22:21Speaker 1: like ten minutes. I actually don't think they have flights
- 22:24Speaker 1: from lay the riverside. That'd be if Yeah, we can
- 22:28Speaker 1: take a flight to Palm Springs.
- 22:30Speaker 2: We can make we can make a flight happen from
- 22:32Speaker 2: here to riverside.
- 22:32Speaker 1: If someone is drying flying the riverside, they're lazy as fuck,
- 22:36Speaker 1: or they're just I don't know. Yeah, we gotta fly
- 22:39Speaker 1: to Vegas. Yeah, we'll go out there. We'll gamble, it'll
- 22:43Speaker 1: be a good time.
- 22:43Speaker 2: I don't want to fly like I'm really I really
- 22:45Speaker 2: think I'm gonna pass up, but.
- 22:47Speaker 1: You won't die.
- 22:48Speaker 2: I won't see.
- 22:49Speaker 1: You don't know that this is true.
- 22:52Speaker 2: This is true.
- 22:53Speaker 1: Flights are sucked up right now.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Very like I don't know what it is, just the
- 22:59Speaker 2: whole like not being I'm very like like control my
- 23:03Speaker 2: situation exactly.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Do you drive yourself?
- 23:06Speaker 2: Yes?
- 23:07Speaker 1: Yeah, like mahomie, uh there's you probably heard of the
- 23:11Speaker 1: guy Jelly World, the country singer. This motherfucker is one
- 23:14Speaker 1: of the most famous people on in the United States,
- 23:17Speaker 1: and he refuses to let anyone drive him. This fool
- 23:20Speaker 1: jumps in the front seat of every rental car suburban
- 23:22Speaker 1: and is whipping.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Himself everywhere because it's like it's my fault of something happens, right,
- 23:25Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I don't want to be like
- 23:27Speaker 2: some shit happens and like we gotta hold somebody liable
- 23:29Speaker 2: for you.
- 23:30Speaker 1: You just got to get a good Armenian. You know
- 23:31Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It barely speaks English. Get the Armo drivers.
- 23:35Speaker 1: They got the driver shit on lockout here man, Oh yeah, yeah,
- 23:38Speaker 1: for sure, the Armenians got it. You gotta keep a
- 23:41Speaker 1: good armaniing around.
- 23:41Speaker 2: You in La.
- 23:43Speaker 1: You gotta keep a good armor, you know what I mean?
- 23:45Speaker 1: They got they they got, they got everything whatever you need.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to the opice man, Yeah, shout.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Out to the Armenians. Man, damn, that'scho. Yeah. We gotta
- 23:53Speaker 1: get you on a flight. This has to happen. You
- 23:55Speaker 1: gotta go out to like Detroit, shoot the video Babyface
- 23:57Speaker 1: ray or something. Eventually you're gonna have to fly eventually.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if I had like a tour and like
- 24:06Speaker 2: and like, uh, what the fuck do we talk about?
- 24:09Speaker 1: Like if they book you in Warsaw or something.
- 24:11Speaker 2: You know, I've never heard of that. Where's that?
- 24:12Speaker 1: I think it's in Poland don't don't quote me on that. Man, Hey,
- 24:16Speaker 1: you gotta stop the interview. You want to give a
- 24:18Speaker 1: shout out. Man. The only thing we smoke, ladies and
- 24:20Speaker 1: gentlemen is slap woods. That's right. Make sure you follow
- 24:23Speaker 1: them at slap woods. And you know the reason why
- 24:26Speaker 1: we smoked flat woods. It's literally because they slap You
- 24:30Speaker 1: can't smoke a slap woods. What the fuck are you doing?
- 24:33Speaker 1: Get back to you. There's rolling loud in Thailand.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're talking about this, So.
- 24:38Speaker 1: We gotta get you on that fucking stupid young just
- 24:40Speaker 1: did it? Yeah, no, dude, we gotta get you to
- 24:43Speaker 1: Thailand and Bangkok. There that's a fucking it's craz I
- 24:47Speaker 1: haven't even flew ten minutes. They want to give me
- 24:49Speaker 1: on an eighteen hour flight. What the fuck are we
- 24:51Speaker 1: getting my rolling out of Thailand? Hell, it'll be fucking amazing.
- 24:55Speaker 1: There's elephants, there's tigers and lady boys and what what No,
- 25:01Speaker 1: there's fucking like there's if you go to Thailand, there's
- 25:04Speaker 1: this thing called the Walking Street and so like it's
- 25:08Speaker 1: strip clubs and like bars. But then there's like the
- 25:11Speaker 1: bitches in the street aren't bitches, dog, they're dudes. You
- 25:14Speaker 1: gotta go inside where that's where the real women are.
- 25:17Speaker 1: But you'll funk around, you're you're just there's just hella,
- 25:21Speaker 1: fucking dude, bitches everywhere. It's fucking crazy. By the way,
- 25:26Speaker 1: take that out, Please take out dude, bitches. That sounds crazy.
- 25:30Speaker 2: Lady boys, lady boys in there. That's the thing about
- 25:34Speaker 2: lady boys.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's a highlight there. It is. No, Thailand's crazy.
- 25:39Speaker 1: There's there's elephants. They got they got fucking komodo dragons
- 25:42Speaker 1: at the park. Dog like eat something. Don't eat your
- 25:46Speaker 1: chihuahua for sure. Yeah. Yeah, fun, You've never been to Mexico,
- 25:51Speaker 1: New Mexico. You did ros, you did papas and beer? No,
- 25:55Speaker 1: I think I talked to you.
- 25:57Speaker 2: They're fucking was cracking the first one on the run.
- 25:59Speaker 2: I was out there and ship you.
- 26:01Speaker 1: Was on the run in Mexico.
- 26:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I live damn.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, look man, God forbid you ever going to
- 26:07Speaker 1: run again? Yeah, just don't ever go with it because
- 26:10Speaker 1: with this new president, they ain't going You ain't coming
- 26:12Speaker 1: back though, Yeah for real?
- 26:14Speaker 2: Cool?
- 26:15Speaker 1: Well where were you at when you were on the run?
- 26:16Speaker 2: I was first, and then FROMI I went to someone
- 26:20Speaker 2: of those logos, and then from there I went to
- 26:22Speaker 2: I was, and from there I went I've.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Heard of Did you ever Have you ever been to
- 26:28Speaker 1: Port Nueva where they all the lobster by t J?
- 26:31Speaker 2: No, I've never been there. And then after that I
- 26:33Speaker 2: went to and then to TJ, and then I just
- 26:35Speaker 2: came back.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Hong Kong?
- 26:37Speaker 2: No, I've never been there.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in China. I heard that.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of it too. We were supposed to
- 26:43Speaker 2: go after after my show and out there and I
- 26:47Speaker 2: just didn't.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big flight. That's a long flight, all
- 26:50Speaker 1: the way to Hong Kong. Very long flight. I heard.
- 26:52Speaker 2: It's very amazing and worth it though.
- 26:54Speaker 1: Great Chinese food I've heard.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Yeah, you've never been never your wife's never led you.
- 27:01Speaker 1: No, My Dennis is in Tia, one of those. Yeah,
- 27:04Speaker 1: great dentnis.
- 27:04Speaker 2: Do you visit him often?
- 27:08Speaker 1: I visited my dentist often. You. I got a lot
- 27:11Speaker 1: of work.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Done, a lot of yeah, a lot.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Lots of cleanings. Ok, yeah, yeah, a lot of drainings.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Maybe quite possibly I did have an abscess. They had
- 27:24Speaker 1: to take care of it, you know what I mean? Yeah,
- 27:25Speaker 1: shouts to my dentists. Her name's uh, she has. Her
- 27:28Speaker 1: name is Tanya Cooper and she's a Mexican lady with
- 27:31Speaker 1: that name. She sounds like a nineties talk show host,
- 27:34Speaker 1: Anya fucking Cooper Man, doctor Cooper Man.
- 27:37Speaker 2: Whenever you need a cleaner, extra set of teeth. So
- 27:39Speaker 2: are you or get drinking or get joined?
- 27:42Speaker 1: Yeah? What are we doing over there? Crystal? Anyway? You
- 27:52Speaker 1: you feel like you're like a you're pretty. You got
- 27:54Speaker 1: a lot of Detroit representation on this album. Are you
- 27:56Speaker 1: a big fan of the Detroit. See yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Shout out to the D everybody really coming up out
- 28:01Speaker 2: of there, Doug from the D right yeah, Doug rio pg.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Reels from Flint. But yes, up there, it's like it's
- 28:09Speaker 1: like it's like Riverside.
- 28:10Speaker 2: In l A. Oh yeah no, that's not the same thing.
- 28:13Speaker 1: It almost got you, like, yes, the same thing you're
- 28:16Speaker 1: saying that is the same.
- 28:17Speaker 2: Shout out to Flint, shout out to shout out to
- 28:21Speaker 2: everybody over there with that, with that style like as
- 28:24Speaker 2: hard as fuck?
- 28:25Speaker 1: Do you feel like when the so like there was
- 28:28Speaker 1: like this La Rapper list that came out and uh
- 28:31Speaker 1: Game did his own version, and a lot of people
- 28:33Speaker 1: were doing their own versions. When you see lists like that,
- 28:36Speaker 1: not to say you deserve to be on it or
- 28:38Speaker 1: or don't deserve to be on it, but when you
- 28:40Speaker 1: see those kind of lists and you kind of see
- 28:42Speaker 1: the names on there, are you like does that motivate
- 28:44Speaker 1: you to be like, yo, I'm trying to be considered
- 28:46Speaker 1: like one of the best in l A ever or
- 28:48Speaker 1: do you not give a fuck?
- 28:50Speaker 2: Not really?
- 28:50Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 28:51Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, as long as you want to list, I
- 28:53Speaker 2: want to list, right.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Were you on the list? Yeah? Which list? Games list? Yeah, okay.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Who was the other list? Was it complex? Complex? Yeah?
- 29:04Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well at least you made games list. Have
- 29:06Speaker 1: you ever hung out with the game?
- 29:07Speaker 2: Yeah? Hell yeah, that's my boy.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Good guy. Yeah, well bipolar, but a good guy.
- 29:12Speaker 2: I haven't seen Nat Slider him, but great guy.
- 29:14Speaker 1: He crashed out on me because I said, get Richard
- 29:16Speaker 1: do try and was better than the documentary on a podcast.
- 29:19Speaker 2: And we're gonna click that out.
- 29:22Speaker 1: He got that. I mean I got a crazy voice
- 29:24Speaker 1: note from him. I'm like, what the fuck the game?
- 29:27Speaker 1: Good guy? Though?
- 29:28Speaker 2: That's boy.
- 29:29Speaker 1: What's your favorite song on the album my album?
- 29:32Speaker 2: Yeah, you're I thought he just threw me a fucking curve. Boy,
- 29:35Speaker 2: I said, what's.
- 29:36Speaker 1: Your favorite song on fucking thirty six Chambers? No, what's
- 29:40Speaker 1: your favorite song on your new album? Man?
- 29:43Speaker 2: I don't got one, I really don't.
- 29:46Speaker 1: You have a song called Harry Nuts with baby with
- 29:48Speaker 1: Babyface Ray. So that is an interesting That's just an
- 29:51Speaker 1: interesting title. It's very nineties titles.
- 29:54Speaker 2: It's just one of the things where if you know,
- 29:56Speaker 2: you know, like you know.
- 29:58Speaker 1: I don't know, well, very you're you're a hairy guy, nah.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Just you know? Yeah, hm hmm.
- 30:10Speaker 1: How many times have you been to a rubbin.
- 30:11Speaker 2: Tug Uh, because it's because of the name massage Butler,
- 30:16Speaker 2: I may not I know what that's about. They know
- 30:20Speaker 2: me about my first name.
- 30:22Speaker 1: You got you got your go to?
- 30:24Speaker 2: Oh no, not really, just my question like.
- 30:26Speaker 1: When you first go to the tuggy, right, are you nervous?
- 30:31Speaker 1: You because you know I've been told, well, I've been
- 30:33Speaker 1: told like I've never gone. Obviously I'm married, so I've
- 30:36Speaker 1: never gotten. But uh, I've been told by my producer Cook.
- 30:40Speaker 1: He goes all the time that when you go in,
- 30:45Speaker 1: you just gotta like when the girl comes back in,
- 30:47Speaker 1: you just gotta be naked so she knows what's up. Like, oh,
- 30:49Speaker 1: I'm gonna jerk this full off.
- 30:51Speaker 2: It just depends. Yeah.
- 30:53Speaker 1: Are the massages ever good though, because that's the best
- 30:57Speaker 1: part about it.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Mass bitch as fucked my backup because she didn't know
- 31:02Speaker 2: what she was doing. Yeah, stupid, I'm thinking she really
- 31:04Speaker 2: know what she's doing. It's my first time ever going
- 31:06Speaker 2: to massage. But I genuinely just wanted to massage.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Right, she right there like so she sucked it up.
- 31:11Speaker 2: I turned around like, bitch, like what are you doing?
- 31:13Speaker 2: Like you being so rough for them? Like the fuck.
- 31:16Speaker 2: And then she's like barely understands me and she and
- 31:20Speaker 2: then she just cuts to the point like suck suck,
- 31:23Speaker 2: and I'm just like, what.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Was she older?
- 31:25Speaker 2: No? Not really?
- 31:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like a lot of those Asian ladies
- 31:28Speaker 1: are like, you know, like forty three.
- 31:32Speaker 2: Uh, probably wasn't touching that old.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Yeah. So did she flip you over and do the
- 31:37Speaker 1: do the deed?
- 31:38Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah? Yeah kind of nice.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey man, the Tugies people got to make a
- 31:44Speaker 1: living out here, man, you know, for real, the at
- 31:48Speaker 1: the end of the day, those those those massage parlors.
- 31:51Speaker 2: I know, when they really know how to rub your back.
- 31:53Speaker 1: I feel like if you said the best, the massage
- 31:56Speaker 1: the best.
- 31:56Speaker 2: Yeah, when they really know what the fuck they're doing.
- 31:58Speaker 2: And then they finished off, It's like, yeah, you know
- 32:02Speaker 2: what if I were you divorced, first thing I'm gonna
- 32:04Speaker 2: do is go to a Tuggy because I want to
- 32:05Speaker 2: try it out.
- 32:06Speaker 1: One though, Yes, Cook ghosts every day. Fuck so he's
- 32:13Speaker 1: a Pokemon car collector, so he was copping Pokemon cars
- 32:17Speaker 1: off this bitch off offer up and found out she
- 32:18Speaker 1: worked out a massage parlay and he never stopped going
- 32:20Speaker 1: ever since they cracked Pokemon cars together. Damn Yo, your
- 32:28Speaker 1: dad's gonna see this every time I talk about him
- 32:30Speaker 1: on the podcast. His dad gives shots of Pops. Shots
- 32:33Speaker 1: to Pops. Your son's out here getting jerk. Fifty five
- 32:35Speaker 1: year old Asians. Hey, we gotta wrap up this interview,
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- 33:23Speaker 1: salute to them. Let's get back to the interview. You've
- 33:25Speaker 1: been independent thus far throughout your career, right this is
- 33:28Speaker 1: this is this is another independent album for you. Like
- 33:33Speaker 1: I'm assuming like you've had so much momentum. We haven't
- 33:37Speaker 1: even talked about the Kendrick thing, but obviously on gn X,
- 33:40Speaker 1: I mean, you're the hottest in the city. Like, at
- 33:41Speaker 1: what point in time are you? Like, Man, maybe it's
- 33:43Speaker 1: time to start listening to some major labels now right now?
- 33:49Speaker 1: So after this album drops?
- 33:51Speaker 2: No, no, uh no, I mean yet now, but not
- 34:00Speaker 2: saying that Empire can't do what the major can't.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Do for sure. I mean, Funk Boozy is the most
- 34:04Speaker 1: popular song I think on Billboard ever.
- 34:07Speaker 2: Yeah, so shout out to I'm not really I'm really
- 34:12Speaker 2: going I'm really looking for the best opportunity, right, not
- 34:16Speaker 2: necessarily the money or like the likeness of this label.
- 34:24Speaker 1: Right, So for you, it's like more about the opportunity.
- 34:27Speaker 2: What could you do for my career that I can
- 34:30Speaker 2: break this? Nah, I don't want to say I'm like,
- 34:33Speaker 2: I don't have the lid on the I wouldn't say that, But.
- 34:36Speaker 1: You want to get through the ceiling and you feel like, exactly,
- 34:38Speaker 1: we've been in so far, how do you take the
- 34:40Speaker 1: next step?
- 34:40Speaker 2: Exactly?
- 34:41Speaker 1: It makes sense for you, It's like not because you
- 34:44Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen is like everyone's going to give
- 34:46Speaker 1: you to be a bidding war and you're gonna have
- 34:49Speaker 1: to decide, well, this advance is bigger.
- 34:50Speaker 2: But we've already been turned down, Like like that's not damn.
- 34:55Speaker 1: What's the most of you've turned down?
- 34:59Speaker 2: Like five, six or like seven something like that for
- 35:02Speaker 2: a deal? Yeah? Or what was it? It was like
- 35:08Speaker 2: like two three projects just for a for a whole
- 35:11Speaker 2: it was like two or three projects something like that. Damn,
- 35:14Speaker 2: something like I forgot.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Six point five million for two projects you turned.
- 35:21Speaker 2: Down or something like that, six or seven something like that?
- 35:25Speaker 1: What made you say? Like, nah? What? What wasn't right
- 35:27Speaker 1: about six six and a half million dollars? Doc, I'm
- 35:29Speaker 1: gonna lie? I ain't a lie. I won't do for
- 35:32Speaker 1: six and a half million dollars.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Nah. It's it's just I feel like it's just telling
- 35:42Speaker 2: me like here, I'm gonna give you this money, but okay,
- 35:44Speaker 2: how am I gonna make How you gonna help me
- 35:47Speaker 2: make it back? Though, Yeah, I don't want to be
- 35:49Speaker 2: stuck in no debt and just get shelved if I
- 35:52Speaker 2: have one bad like.
- 35:54Speaker 1: If the first album don't do what y'all wanted to do,
- 35:56Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be stuck.
- 35:58Speaker 2: They stopped, they stopped funding you after ship like that
- 36:00Speaker 2: not funding you, but they stopped putting the building behind you,
- 36:02Speaker 2: or they're not motivating no more. For sure they want
- 36:04Speaker 2: to be stuck in one of those situations because with
- 36:06Speaker 2: this music shit, it's like me being independent. This whole
- 36:09Speaker 2: time of shit is a roller coaster.
- 36:10Speaker 1: For sure, And you got to do everything yourself exactly.
- 36:12Speaker 1: You gotta have a good team. Yeah, you guys are
- 36:14Speaker 1: doing all the heavy lifting. You guys are doing a
- 36:16Speaker 1: lot of the ship.
- 36:17Speaker 2: That like, it's a lot like a lot of people
- 36:19Speaker 2: think like, oh, like I want to be independent it
- 36:22Speaker 2: that shit is a bitch, bro, you know like that
- 36:26Speaker 2: it's a bitch. But yeah, definitely was like I wanted
- 36:32Speaker 2: to see how they can help me or not necessarily
- 36:36Speaker 2: help me, but I didn't want to just be stuck
- 36:37Speaker 2: with a big ass bag. And then you know, keep
- 36:39Speaker 2: in mind that's the only bag you're gonna touch for
- 36:42Speaker 2: a minute, for a minute, on top of that, like
- 36:44Speaker 2: I wasn't necessarily worried about like not touching the back
- 36:48Speaker 2: is obviously endorsements come yeah, yeah, I was really worried
- 36:52Speaker 2: about that.
- 36:53Speaker 1: There's other money out there for you to get, but
- 36:54Speaker 1: it's just.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Like being so young with all that money, it was like, bro,
- 36:58Speaker 2: I was gonna run through that fuck it off, not
- 37:01Speaker 2: fuck off everything, because I'm not stupid, like, but you're
- 37:04Speaker 2: gonna if you got I was gonna fuck off a
- 37:06Speaker 2: good amount.
- 37:07Speaker 1: Yeah, there was gonna be some radom. There'd be a new.
- 37:09Speaker 2: Chain, definitely, it would have been a few new change yeah.
- 37:13Speaker 2: Like but yeah, so I was just kind of like
- 37:17Speaker 2: not spoke of the situation, but just kind of like
- 37:21Speaker 2: I didn't want to be self if I had a
- 37:23Speaker 2: bad year.
- 37:24Speaker 1: It happens, man, it happens all the time. Yeah, and
- 37:26Speaker 1: then you end up, you know, having a sour taste,
- 37:29Speaker 1: and it might make you uninspired and you might be like,
- 37:32Speaker 1: fuck this musica, what for you? Like, as an artist,
- 37:35Speaker 1: we always hear like, uh, like the streaming ship is
- 37:38Speaker 1: like one thing, like you know, but there's so many
- 37:41Speaker 1: artists that have like figured out other ways to monetize
- 37:44Speaker 1: their brand besides just whatever streaming and sales. Is there
- 37:47Speaker 1: anything you guys like are doing just to kind of
- 37:50Speaker 1: make sure you're like kind of keeping your fan base
- 37:52Speaker 1: on their toes and like put money in your pocket.
- 37:55Speaker 2: Oh not really, like no merch, No, not really, I'm
- 37:59Speaker 2: gonna drop some merch. I'm doing pretty good food, Like
- 38:01Speaker 2: I can see that I'm doing pretty good. Not saying that,
- 38:06Speaker 2: you know, an extra penny won't hurt, but it's kind
- 38:11Speaker 2: of just I'm focused on one thing. I don't want
- 38:13Speaker 2: to be a jack of all trades right now. I'm
- 38:15Speaker 2: really just focused on one thing, and it's putting out
- 38:17Speaker 2: good music, right you know, That's really what I'm invested
- 38:20Speaker 2: to right now. That's where my mind's at. And yeah,
- 38:25Speaker 2: I'm kind of I missed out on the lot, so
- 38:26Speaker 2: I had to catch up. It's a lot of catching
- 38:28Speaker 2: up I have to do. I'm not really worried about
- 38:30Speaker 2: scraping the money here here, here, here, here, you got
- 38:32Speaker 2: you gotta put some merch out, yeah, not for sure,
- 38:35Speaker 2: for sure, So.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Some fucking you know, paye panties or something, pennies, Like,
- 38:41Speaker 1: I know I ain't got music for y'all, hose, but
- 38:43Speaker 1: I got some panties.
- 38:45Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I definitely not. We we we do talk
- 38:47Speaker 2: about it, but I'm just really focused on on the
- 38:49Speaker 2: music right now.
- 38:50Speaker 1: Yo, walk me through the concept of like how you
- 38:52Speaker 1: ended up kind of landing on doing like a last
- 38:54Speaker 1: step or style album cover because this ship was fire.
- 38:58Speaker 2: It wasn't, it's not. So it's more like when I
- 39:03Speaker 2: say finally fed, right, like I'm thankful to be eating.
- 39:05Speaker 2: So I kind of went for like a Thanksgiving type
- 39:07Speaker 2: of vibe, King's Table type.
- 39:08Speaker 1: Of vibe, right, So it's kind of not necessarily the
- 39:11Speaker 1: last supper.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I see the interpolation after, you know, right, but
- 39:17Speaker 2: I kind of went for that. And on top of that,
- 39:19Speaker 2: we're in the trap house. Yeah, we're in the trap and.
- 39:23Speaker 1: Ship and there's a rat on the cover.
- 39:26Speaker 2: We're just in the trap and we're eating, you know,
- 39:29Speaker 2: like that's kind.
- 39:31Speaker 1: Of no Mexican food on the table though.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Yeah, just Thanksgiving shit, you can't even.
- 39:36Speaker 1: Represent for your people. Don't put table Thanksgiving Tomy's.
- 39:43Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it was. It was definitely one of
- 39:47Speaker 2: them like where people just ate too much of what
- 39:52Speaker 2: was put out, like put we gave them this, and
- 39:55Speaker 2: the motherfuckers ate the whole table, and it's like chill.
- 39:57Speaker 2: It was not that deep. It's literally just us.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Who did the painting. Fuck I forget. I don't even
- 40:02Speaker 1: know how to fire.
- 40:04Speaker 2: I don't know how to pronounce his name, but he's crazy.
- 40:08Speaker 2: He's a very good artist.
- 40:09Speaker 1: You You obviously got some relationships with some L A O.
- 40:14Speaker 1: G's like Greto obviously you know, Uh, Phoenix and and
- 40:17Speaker 1: Uh and Jeez and those guys. What has been like,
- 40:19Speaker 1: Who's who's kind of been like your big homie in
- 40:22Speaker 1: this rap ship man, that's really just kind of like
- 40:24Speaker 1: helped helped you out, gave you some game.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Ship. I wouldn't necessarily call nobody a big homie, but
- 40:32Speaker 2: some of these are gonna help just just somebody. Yeah,
- 40:34Speaker 2: definitely help been a good friend, helping Hash. We can
- 40:37Speaker 2: name him helping Hash. Phoenix was definitely one of them.
- 40:40Speaker 2: He tapped in early on. Mazie was a big one.
- 40:43Speaker 2: He tapped in early on. Who else Gez obviously ship
- 40:53Speaker 2: just really everybody in La embraced me. Shout out to
- 40:55Speaker 2: everybody from the land, Like everybody really embraced me. Shout
- 40:58Speaker 2: out to everybody doing this ship or trying to do
- 41:00Speaker 2: this ship for sure.
- 41:01Speaker 1: Yeah for you, Uh, what was the feature that you
- 41:06Speaker 1: were the most excited that, like, oh ship, Like you
- 41:09Speaker 1: got Tiger on the album, you got fucking Kevin Gates.
- 41:12Speaker 2: On everybody, everybody on there, and you.
- 41:14Speaker 1: Got crazy Like Kevin Gates is a legend.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a legend.
- 41:18Speaker 1: That's not an easy feature to get.
- 41:19Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a real one. Shout out to Gates.
- 41:21Speaker 1: Even Tiger, Like Tiger is like a fucking superstar.
- 41:24Speaker 2: Super legend. Hell yeah, they all legends, everybody on that bit.
- 41:27Speaker 1: Were you in the studio with Tiger or did he
- 41:28Speaker 1: send it over?
- 41:29Speaker 2: Sent over?
- 41:30Speaker 1: Yeah? What was it? Were you in the studio for
- 41:33Speaker 1: any of these features or was it mostly just kind
- 41:34Speaker 1: of like the back and forth?
- 41:36Speaker 2: Yeah, man, like back and forth. Me, I and Grido
- 41:38Speaker 2: were in the studio. Shout out the baby face. He's
- 41:42Speaker 2: fucking hard.
- 41:44Speaker 1: Grito is an alien in the studio. That dude just
- 41:46Speaker 1: fucking just man, he could do an album in two hours.
- 41:52Speaker 2: Yeah, Me, Me and Rouchie Tigan swayed. We're in the
- 41:56Speaker 2: studio for vibes.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Hold on this. They say you spent You spelled little
- 42:01Speaker 1: Yachti's name wrong on the.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Let him do that.
- 42:06Speaker 1: That's a little Yachi Yo.
- 42:11Speaker 2: Yacht is going crazy. And win a studio together as Dope, Super.
- 42:17Speaker 1: Dope, the Rag and the Leaves on the album and
- 42:21Speaker 1: on the album Doug and Not Clevin Let's go. Yeah,
- 42:28Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we got a massage parlor song and
- 42:30Speaker 1: we got a song that dedicated to not shaving your
- 42:32Speaker 1: pubes on this album. So it's crazy for you. Do
- 42:39Speaker 1: you feel like because obviously you've talked about the Kendrick
- 42:42Speaker 1: Think a million fucking times over and over, but do
- 42:44Speaker 1: you feel like there was because we always like, I
- 42:47Speaker 1: feel like there's the gift in the curse of being
- 42:49Speaker 1: put in that situation where you're on one of the
- 42:51Speaker 1: biggest albums of the last you know, year, ship in
- 42:54Speaker 1: the last decade, and you're probably gonna win a Grammy
- 42:57Speaker 1: for it, because there's no way that album doesn't win
- 43:00Speaker 1: at least a Grammy.
- 43:01Speaker 2: I believe it's Diamond.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but like it's gonna get nominated for every
- 43:07Speaker 1: every single album category you know, these next Grammys, for sure.
- 43:13Speaker 1: But is there like a like the expectations are now
- 43:17Speaker 1: like at a whole new level.
- 43:19Speaker 2: I mean yes and no, because it's like like yes
- 43:23Speaker 2: and no, Like if that was true, everybody on that
- 43:28Speaker 2: that was up and coming, I have like a fucking
- 43:30Speaker 2: super crazy deal right now.
- 43:33Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, I mean I just mean like a
- 43:35Speaker 1: lot of the people who were up and coming on
- 43:37Speaker 1: that project doesn't necessarily maybe have shit lined up for
- 43:41Speaker 1: to take advantage of that situation. But I feel like
- 43:43Speaker 1: for you it just kind of added to like to me,
- 43:46Speaker 1: you've been doing your thing and already so verified that
- 43:48Speaker 1: it just was like more of a stamp.
- 43:50Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah, shout out to die as opposed to
- 43:52Speaker 2: like I feel like for me, it was more of
- 43:55Speaker 2: a first of all, it was the experience to me
- 44:00Speaker 2: was crazy a lot, you.
- 44:01Speaker 1: Know, for sure, dope hold on yeah, sneeze yeah, fuck
- 44:09Speaker 1: it's fine, sneeze towards cook.
- 44:14Speaker 2: It was definitely like super dope, opportunity, super dope. Even
- 44:19Speaker 2: if it never came out, it was dope as fuck
- 44:21Speaker 2: to even do it or be in the same room
- 44:23Speaker 2: chop it up, you know, and definitely like another wake
- 44:29Speaker 2: up call, another like you know, motivation, like oh ship,
- 44:32Speaker 2: like this ship is real, I gotta snap the fuck
- 44:34Speaker 2: out of it. Like I was fucking up a little bit,
- 44:35Speaker 2: and then it kind of brought me back like oh shit.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Oh like almost like you're you're kind of like, you know,
- 44:40Speaker 1: fucking up a little and then that opportunity comes you're like, damn,
- 44:42Speaker 1: I gotta get exactly.
- 44:44Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one of them type of you know situations.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Do you even think about like hitting Kendrick to be
- 44:49Speaker 1: like to get on your ship? Nah? Why not?
- 44:53Speaker 2: I don't know it. I don't know.
- 44:55Speaker 1: The worst thing that happen is he says no, and
- 44:58Speaker 1: who cares. I rather just you know, you gotta get
- 45:01Speaker 1: Kendrick on one of your records.
- 45:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be dope, not for show eventually later on
- 45:05Speaker 2: down the downe the line. But you know, I ain't
- 45:07Speaker 2: thirsty for it, Like.
- 45:08Speaker 1: No, it's not. Motherfucker's gonna sit back like it's being thirsty.
- 45:12Speaker 2: I don't. I don't mean thirsty like that, like.
- 45:14Speaker 1: Ain Kendrick I got. But you will know when you
- 45:16Speaker 1: got the one.
- 45:17Speaker 2: Exactly when you got the one, you're like, you think
- 45:20Speaker 2: we got to put that call in? Yeah? No, that's
- 45:22Speaker 2: you know.
- 45:23Speaker 1: Did you were you able to go to the GNX tour? Yeah?
- 45:26Speaker 2: Of course?
- 45:26Speaker 1: Yeah? That was a fucking crazy was dope? Did you
- 45:29Speaker 1: go to so far? But you don't leave La, So
- 45:34Speaker 1: it's like I've never been anywhere. We gotta get you
- 45:36Speaker 1: on a plane. We gotta get you to uh somewhere
- 45:41Speaker 1: in we gotta get you out of out of this
- 45:42Speaker 1: time zone. So the whole PST is a wrap you
- 45:44Speaker 1: at least gotta go to fucking Wyoming or Texas or something. Yeah,
- 45:49Speaker 1: you're going to tour soon. I'm I was going to
- 45:53Speaker 1: drive to Texas. See that's stupid. What's inefficient? That's so far?
- 45:57Speaker 1: Fucking Texas is huge, dog, It's just I don't want
- 46:01Speaker 1: to play nah nah listen, man, listen. Uh the album
- 46:07Speaker 1: is coming out Friday, everyone goes support it, shout out.
- 46:10Speaker 1: We got a freestyle coming out. I had him wrap
- 46:12Speaker 1: on Sierra's one two Steps unprepared too, so it was
- 46:16Speaker 1: totally just off the rip. And uh no, I'm just playing.
- 46:19Speaker 1: But anyway, albums coming out Friday, go support it live,
- 46:24Speaker 1: show will being out soon, yep. And uh, anything else
- 46:28Speaker 1: you got going on you want to you want to.
- 46:29Speaker 2: Talk about just the album, man, stay tuned for that.
- 46:32Speaker 2: And yeah, like you said, crazy show coming up, just
- 46:36Speaker 2: gonna get thrown out there, Yeah.
- 46:38Speaker 1: For sure, man. And then the next time you do
- 46:41Speaker 1: poppers and beer, let me know, all right, so I
- 46:43Speaker 1: can see my dennist let's do it. Yep, there it
- 46:46Speaker 1: is my guy. Hey so boom,