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ROR 144: A Conversation With My Podcast Producer · Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison

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  Speaker 1: Hello, this is a pre bad call.
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  Speaker 2: Prod rid has you make it the Prician Apartment of
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  Speaker 2: Correction read a new state person to accept this call
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  Speaker 2: for ass zero.
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  Speaker 1: This is Randall Bob. I'm currently serving one thousand, two,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen years for capital murder right on
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  Speaker 1: your state first and in state of Virginia, the US,
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  Speaker 1: and this is my podcast right on your rand.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you joy listening to.
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  Speaker 1: Me to day. This is Randall Bab currently serving one thousand,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fourteen years for capital murder on robbery,
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  Speaker 1: currently being housed at Keenmount Correctional Center in Oakwood, Virginia, USA.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a podcast right on your Randy. We hope
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  Speaker 1: you enjoyed listening.
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  Speaker 3: To me today.
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  Speaker 1: If you have any questions or comments, or want to
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  Speaker 1: Just put a plus in front of the one and
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  Speaker 1: you're good to go. You can also visit my website
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  Speaker 1: which is new and improved and got different features and
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  Speaker 1: whatnot at www dot red on your Randy dot com.
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  Speaker 1: We also have some merch up there so far, it's
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  Speaker 1: just a hoodie and a T shirt with my logo
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  Speaker 1: and everything. You can find that link on my website.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you support me. You can also find me
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  Speaker 1: on x at red Onion Randy and I hope you do.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get started with the podcast, because everybody who listens
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  Speaker 1: to me, no, you know, I've been doing this podcast
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  Speaker 1: for five years now, believe me. And the original Michael
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  Speaker 1: Once started it in twenty nineteen, and it's grown a
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  Speaker 1: little bit since then. But today today's episode is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a little bit different. I've got my new
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  Speaker 1: editor on Michael two or as I've started calling him tweet.
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  Speaker 1: That's just little prison nickname I've granted him on Sakana.
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  Speaker 1: Just talk together, communicate. Who knows where it's going to go.
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  Speaker 1: It should be unterested. So let me introduce to my
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  Speaker 1: new editor, Michael.
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  Speaker 2: Sayhak, what's going on everybody? I think everybody probably already
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  Speaker 2: knows who I am, just from me posting stuff online
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  Speaker 2: for you for so many so much. But yeah, if
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  Speaker 2: anybody doesn't know, my name is Mike and I'm from Toronto,
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  Speaker 2: Canada if you can't tell from my accent, But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I guess probably the story goes back to like twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: when I first saw the The Red Onion documentary. That
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  Speaker 2: was like the first time I became aware of you,
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  Speaker 2: as like many other people became aware of you through
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  Speaker 2: that documentary too, But yeah, that was the first time
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  Speaker 2: I saw you.
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  Speaker 1: And it still took you five years to reach out
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  Speaker 1: to me. What an impact on me?
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  Speaker 2: Well, So what happened is like I didn't really think
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  Speaker 2: much of it when I first saw the as far
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  Speaker 2: as like reaching out to you, I didn't really think
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  Speaker 2: about it. When I first saw the documentary. I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was like, I thought it was cool, but I
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  Speaker 2: just like, I don't know, that just wasn't in my
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  Speaker 2: head as even like being a possibility of like communicating
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  Speaker 2: with people in prison. But what happened is probably about
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  Speaker 2: I guess it would have been twenty nineteen. I was
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  Speaker 2: scrolling through iTunes and I was looking for new podcasts episodes,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I think I just searched for prison
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  Speaker 2: and yours was the top one that came up, And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I found your podcast. By that, I think I was
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  Speaker 2: a little late. Actually, I think by the time I
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  Speaker 2: found your podcast, there was already like thirty forty episodes
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  Speaker 2: or something, and I just binged through all of them,
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  Speaker 2: probably like within a day. I ran through them pretty
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  Speaker 2: pretty fast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not pretty sure it you know, it's I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: you took that chance on me. You know. It's I've
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of people write me. You know, as
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  Speaker 1: you know, we talked about this before. I've had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people reach out to me around the world,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, unfortunately, and somewhat fortunately, to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you, I only had with so many hours in
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  Speaker 1: the day to write and respond to emails. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've had I think the most people I've written at
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  Speaker 1: one time was almost one hundred people, you know. The yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of those, you know,
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  Speaker 1: friendship relationships just kind of faded. I did have to
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  Speaker 1: end a couple, you know. There's just some things I'm
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  Speaker 1: not into, some things I'm not going to be a
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  Speaker 1: part of. But the ones that have stuck, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you Paul Y, Michael, Wan Jun Yen, you know obviously,
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  Speaker 1: my wife Nick. You know, it's it's it's made such
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  Speaker 1: a huge impact. I mean, you know, I've and I
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  Speaker 1: sa thing like I've got you know, guys, with you know,
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  Speaker 1: some small I mean, and I really do mean like minuscule,
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  Speaker 1: you know, mob connections in Philly. I've got a guy
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  Speaker 1: who did time in North Carolina and Texas who's now
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  Speaker 1: living in Texas. You know. I've got a buddy named
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  Speaker 1: John and was like Andrew Klin and Sinclair from Brisbane
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  Speaker 1: and Australia. My my dude Antie from Helsinki, Finland, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Kline from Washington. Like I've got people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my my my friend Ava, you know, who's currently living
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  Speaker 1: in Florida. Like I've got some friends that have just
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  Speaker 1: really just they wrote and they're still here to this day,
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  Speaker 1: you know, years and years and years later, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And that kind of it humbles me. It makes me
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  Speaker 1: think y'all are crazy and you to get a life,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But at the same time, like it's it's
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  Speaker 1: kept me grounded. It's I don't think, honestly, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I would have made I look, I give God
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  Speaker 1: all the credit first and foremost. That's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: something I do, something I always will do, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, he worked through
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  Speaker 1: y'all because I would not be here right now if
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't for y'all, you know, so there's there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of love and respect on mind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it goes both ways. I mean people like
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  Speaker 2: people got to understand about podcasts really help they can.
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  Speaker 2: Like people think of podcasts as just being like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: something superficial or whatever. It's just something you're listening to.
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  Speaker 2: But for a lot of people that can really like
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  Speaker 2: keep you company and like, because I know, for me,
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  Speaker 2: like when I was on the road traveling so much
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  Speaker 2: and like being away from everybody all the time, like podcasts,
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  Speaker 2: I really like, you know, you you almost like form
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  Speaker 2: a relation ship with somebody just through listening to their story.
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  Speaker 1: Hold, hey, John George, I'm recording a podcast and that
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  Speaker 1: interviews quite a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: All right, sorry about that, but yeah, no, like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people, especially people with depression or mental health
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  Speaker 2: issues and stuff like that, they really become connected. I
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  Speaker 2: think through especially a podcast with yours, where you're telling
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  Speaker 2: such personal stories about your life, I think that's how
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  Speaker 2: people kind of like really connect with you and uh
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  Speaker 2: like feel like I think there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: probably feel like they know you. Even that if the
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  Speaker 2: people that don't reach out and talk to you if
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  Speaker 2: that makes sense, right, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean it's and you know, to me, that's I spent
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  Speaker 1: so many years of my life alone, you know, even
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  Speaker 1: when I was on a street growing up as you know,
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  Speaker 1: as a small child, you know, and I spent that
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  Speaker 1: time hiding in the woods, you know, from you know,
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  Speaker 1: drunk dad and all that bullsh that had to deal with,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I've always felt alone, you know, especially
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  Speaker 1: juvenile prison, you know, since since that documentary came out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I remember originally I not only didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to do it, I actually refused to do it
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  Speaker 1: and looting it. Fanning and unit manager Jeffrey Artrip at
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  Speaker 1: the time, all though both of them have been you know,
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  Speaker 1: promoted since then. You know, they've threatened me. And even
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  Speaker 1: though I was in the hole in you know, the
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  Speaker 1: IM six close part in D six at Red Onion,
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  Speaker 1: they threatened to send me back to seat building, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and that part, Yeah, I was in solitary confinement in
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  Speaker 1: that part. If I left that cell, I was in
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  Speaker 1: shackles and handcuffs and I had a gun point at
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  Speaker 1: my head the whole time. We had more privileges in
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  Speaker 1: that pod though, because I guess the documentary. I guess
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  Speaker 1: the way that that pod was set up or whatnot,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't want to lose what I had,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, I wind up, you know, like, all right, man,
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  Speaker 1: fine do it. And I and I went out with
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  Speaker 1: the intention of just being quiet, not being noticed. And
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  Speaker 1: I remember exactly what it was that I said that
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  Speaker 1: you could see Christy Jacobson's eyes and the cameraman and
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  Speaker 1: the sound got like their eyes just really just.
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  Speaker 3: You have one minute remaining.
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  Speaker 1: Their eyes just went straight up cartoon big. And that's
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  Speaker 1: when you know, I said, I kind of like this
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  Speaker 1: pod because it gives us the chance to rehumanize ourselves,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because they spend so many years in the
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  Speaker 1: whole talking to somebody through a vent, not face to face,
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  Speaker 1: like I was out when I was chained at the floor.
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  Speaker 2: Let me call back, buddy, all right, Yeah, so what
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  Speaker 2: we're saying right before we cut.
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  Speaker 1: Off, Okay, I was talking about I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: do that documentary, you know, and I think there was
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  Speaker 1: there was like a a stigma behind it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a convict, man. I ain't doing no damn documentary.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't I ain't selling out for these people. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going on there and telling them and giving them
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  Speaker 1: a five star rating, you know. But at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, you know, I look back and I
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  Speaker 1: see God's hand in it and think, you know, thank
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  Speaker 1: him for what he did. You know, Otherwise I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have met y'all, you know, and I would have lost
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  Speaker 1: out on so much growth, so much pain, heartache, so
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  Speaker 1: much beauty and laughter and love, and you know, and
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  Speaker 1: that that was the cool thing about that. That's the
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  Speaker 1: cool thing, you know, that's the beautiful thing about life.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm trying. And you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: the things I'm trying to get across with the podcast
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  Speaker 1: is Beauty from Ashes. I didn't, you know, a whole
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  Speaker 1: episode on it. And speaking of you know, the episodes, dude,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you taking over the uh the editing
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  Speaker 1: duties from uh Ju Yann and everything, you know, due
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  Speaker 1: to some health issues on her part. I absolutely love
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing with you know, the thumbnails and the
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  Speaker 1: pictures and all that stuff with AI. Like it is
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  Speaker 1: that episode of me and the prison cell drawing a
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  Speaker 1: phoenix on the wall. You know. The crazy thing is
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  Speaker 1: we actually do stuff like that here in prison, especially
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  Speaker 1: those who are good at drawing, and you know they
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  Speaker 1: can you know, get the art equipment and whatnot. You know.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that that really was extremely cool. Not only
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  Speaker 1: that it would do that Phoenix would make a bad
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  Speaker 1: asspect piece, you know. Yeah, But I mean that's there's
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  Speaker 1: so much beauty that can come from our pain, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm married now, I mean too, a gorgeous dropped,
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  Speaker 1: a gorgeous woman that I literally have no business being
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  Speaker 1: in a relationship with, you know, much less married to
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  Speaker 1: this chick, you know. But again, it all came from paint,
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  Speaker 1: it all came from loanliness, it all came from solitary confinement,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's that's to me. It's just
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  Speaker 1: it's it's amazing, you know, the impact that, yes, I've
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  Speaker 1: had on other people's lives. But that's what I don't
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of y'all realize, even my friends, the
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  Speaker 1: impact that y'all make on my life, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm where I'm at right now because I've been able
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  Speaker 1: when I get it too, those states where I just
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  Speaker 1: really want to hurt someone and I really want to
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  Speaker 1: put someone in their place because they've just they've pushed
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  Speaker 1: and pushed and pushed him, pushed until I'm really sick
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  Speaker 1: and tired of being pushed. You know, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: how much rehabilitation a man does. If you have to
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  Speaker 1: do it all by yourself, without any single person to
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  Speaker 1: help you, without any single person to lean on and
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  Speaker 1: rely on, you're going to crumble. You're gonna fall, and
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna put your hands on someone. You might get
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  Speaker 1: your ass whollop depending on who you put your hands on,
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  Speaker 1: but you're gonna put your hands on someone because eventually
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna snap out. And a lot of times when
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  Speaker 1: you do wind up snapping out, you always wind up
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  Speaker 1: snapping out on somebody that doesn't really deserve you putting
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  Speaker 1: their hands on them. You know. I've seen that happen
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  Speaker 1: thousands of times here in prison, you know, So it's
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  Speaker 1: not it to me. The podcast isn't about the impact
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  Speaker 1: I'm making on the world. It's about the impact y'all
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  Speaker 1: are making on me and how y'all helped me to
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  Speaker 1: get do it. Because how many times, dude, if I
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  Speaker 1: called you and you'll be like, hey, what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Man, I'm gonna fucking rip this dude's head off.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, maybe we shouldn't do that. What's you know? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so like it. And then you know, you
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  Speaker 1: talk to me, You tell me about Johnny getting upset
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  Speaker 1: because you and g O were spending too much time
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  Speaker 1: with the horses, and he went in your bedroom and
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  Speaker 1: pissed on your pillow, you know. And next thing you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here laughing at your dog's antics. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to hurt nobody anymore. So like, that's it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing that even in a supermax prison, one of the
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  Speaker 1: worst supermaxes in the world, I mean, to the point
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  Speaker 1: where and I'll will be doing an upcoming episode on
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  Speaker 1: this about red Onion. Yo, You've got guys up there
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  Speaker 1: setting themselves on fire, you know, like they're wrapping themselves
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  Speaker 1: in sheets and blankets, popping the socket and setting themselves
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  Speaker 1: on fire, you know, just to force the doc's hand
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  Speaker 1: to get them out of that prison. You know. But
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  Speaker 1: yet I was up there, and I was able to
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  Speaker 1: to touch people's buffs, was able to help people. I
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  Speaker 1: was able to you know, and it's it's insane to me,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's it's beautiful to me at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you think does anybody else still a red Onion
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  Speaker 2: that was there when you were there or when the
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  Speaker 2: documentary was.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not sure. I know. Uh Dennis Webb, the
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  Speaker 1: big boy who scratched a ward in face even though
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  Speaker 1: he you know, runs around telling everybody he damn here
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  Speaker 1: chopped you head off. He put a two inch scratch
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  Speaker 1: on his face with a razor blade. You know he's
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  Speaker 1: he's at Walling's Ridge.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I know Lars Lars Hansen. The last time I heard
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  Speaker 1: about him, he was at Sussex one. Uh So I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't know where he's at now. Kelly. I
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  Speaker 1: believe Kelly's still at Red Onion. My buddy Frank is
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  Speaker 1: still at red Onion. I think Kislin might have been
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  Speaker 1: released from prison by now.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember his his real name. I never really
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  Speaker 1: cared for him that much, you know, hell, even Filipino
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  Speaker 1: for Lars Hanson nickname in prison is Filipino. Even me
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  Speaker 1: and him for a long time really didn't get along.
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  Speaker 1: But when I got out of the solitary in i
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  Speaker 1: AMS's clothes, pot and everything, and I went across the
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  Speaker 1: yard to general population, he was It wasn't in the
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  Speaker 1: pot I was in, he was in the kitchen pot.
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  Speaker 1: But we went outside on the reck yard together and
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  Speaker 1: he come up to me, Hey, man, how you doing. Man?
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  Speaker 1: You know when we just you know started talking and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we kind of it became a little bit
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  Speaker 1: cooler than we were back in im six closed pot.
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  Speaker 2: Well doesn't that kind of environment must like intensify every
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  Speaker 2: kind of a relationship, right, Like, there's somebody you're not
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  Speaker 2: getting along with. If you're in that kind of environment,
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  Speaker 2: you're really.
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  Speaker 1: Not going to get along with them, right, Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 1: there's ah, yeah, there's people like even in the pot
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  Speaker 1: I'm in right now, there's people I do my absolute
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  Speaker 1: best to just stay away from, not talk to, not
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  Speaker 1: engage or deal with them in any way. And there's
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's like two people you know, if they
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  Speaker 1: come up to me like, man, what you doing? Talk
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  Speaker 1: with you? Man? No, you don't talk to me, You
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  Speaker 1: don't ask me for nothing, but get away from me,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And if and it's the thing is, it's
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  Speaker 1: not because I'm a dick. It's not because I'm an
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  Speaker 1: asshole or bully or anything like that. I don't like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't bully people. I don't pick on
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  Speaker 1: people even though I mean I could. I'm physically capable
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  Speaker 1: of doing it. I'm mentally capable of doing it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just not emotionally or spiritually capable of doing it.
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  Speaker 1: But I know how easy it is to trigger an
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  Speaker 1: alter case. So if you're one of them people, I
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  Speaker 1: really really don't like it. You come up and you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to hang out with me and you're getting on
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  Speaker 1: my nerves. You know, I'm going to tell you to
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  Speaker 1: carry your ass simply because I don't want to slack.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you have to be direct. That's what I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of good at it in those situations. You got
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  Speaker 2: to be direct. Otherwise it's just going to create an
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  Speaker 2: issue that's ongoing for you, right And I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, look, no, don't get me wrong, I'm not doing
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  Speaker 1: it like hey, yo, look you're bit get on your
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  Speaker 1: knees and walk away from me like the whore you are. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: probably going to start in that altercation right there. It's
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  Speaker 1: not so much what you say, but it's how you
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: say it, you know. But in this case, it can
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: be what you say at the same time, simply because
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you know I'm not I'm not going to be a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: dick about I'm not going to antagonize this person. You know, Bro,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you don't talk to me, I don't talk to you.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Get it away from me, you know. But I'm not
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: saying it in like a really extremely aggressive way. But
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I am putting my foot down. You know, you're not
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: welcome around me, and you know you're not welcome around me,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's yeah, especially especially when you've
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: got an environment like red on your new Walls Ridge,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: where you're constantly on lock you're you know, you're losing
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: like I've Actually that's the thing. I've lost quite a
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: few friends because we was on lockdown up there so
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: much that I couldn't get access to the key off,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you know, to send the email or whatnot. And you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: we're we're all lockdown up there for you know, forty
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: fifty sixty days, and by the time I get out,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I've got seventy or eighty emails waiting on me.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: And some of them start off talking about, hey, I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: hope you're doing well, blah blah blah, here's some pictures
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: of me at the beach or you know, stuff like that,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and then another email, Hey, I just wanted to let
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you know. You know, the kids were doing good. They
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: had this, you know, their first uh play at school,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and you know, little Susie smoked it. And then, hey man,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I ain't heard from him. You know what's going on?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: You ghost meet the what's wrong with you? Man? You
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: will bitch bro huh? And I'm like, I'm on lockdown, Dure, Like,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: what what do you I mean? And I think you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand that. You know, people
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: in prison, they've lost family members, you know, behind this,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: They've lost their wives, they lost their girlfriends, you know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people on the street, they've y'all
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: have smartphones in your hand, damn near twenty hours a day. Hell,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I think some of you sleep with it, you know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And so y'all out there on the streets, y'all could communicate,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you know, right then and there literally around the world.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many times I couldn't get in touch
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: with Nick for one reason or another and I called
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you and I was like, hey, man, send her a
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: text on me letting her know that I'm trying to
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: call her but I'm just not getting through. And you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: send it immediately and she gets it within you know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: ten seconds of me asking you defend it, so we
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: can't do that. I wish to god we could. I
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: wish we had cell phones in here. You know, I
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: don't understand why they don't give us cell phones in here.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: We have to pay for the you know, the cell
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: phone plan, the provider, and you know, all of that stuff.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: You don't have to give us smartphones though, you don't
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: have to give us access to the internet. You can
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: give us one that's specifically designed for prison to where
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you know, we can maybe even FaceTime with whoever we're
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: talking to, as long as we're paying for the minutes
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: or whatever, like you know, so we can do that
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: from the cell even if we're on lockdown. That would
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: be awesome. But we don't have that. So everything in here, man,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: is a pressure cooker. Everything in here is leveled up
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: by ten mm hm, you know, And that's why I
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: need y'all help more than y'all need me.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know. I think it definitely goes
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: both ways to me, like I said, because like you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: we we met pretty much right after my dad passed away,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and that was like talking to you is a big
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: thing because like I know, look, we were. We were
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: able to talk like pretty much right away after I
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: don't know, we emailed for a couple of months or
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: whatever it was. We emailed and then started talking on
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the phone. But we never had like awkward conversation or anything.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: We just like pretty much flowed right into it right away.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Actually, buddy, I think, uh, I think me and you
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: started talking on the phone like within two weeks of
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: writing each other.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably was pretty it was.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: It was pretty quick and like, and that's the thing.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: A lot of times I'll put somebody's phone number in
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and the way it works, if you dial that phone
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: number the very first time and the people accept it
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: right then and there, you can usually go straight into
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: just talking to one another. Uh. But a lot of
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: times it for whatever reason, y'all don't answer the first time.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You know, it can it can be a pain and
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: ask like it took me and a Michael Wong, you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: an original producer. I think it took us like three
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: months to get a phone number actually set up and
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: approved for me to start talking to him. Really, you know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but mine and yours, dude, Like, I mean, it was
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: literally I doubt it. You answered on like the first
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: ring and it was approved and we was talking and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like you said, I mean it was there was no
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: awkwardness or anything. M h you know, which was you know,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: pretty cool, definitely nice for me.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that was back when I was using Scape
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: still too.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I like I love it and hate
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it at the same time.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's definitely like that's I mean, it's it's
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: amazing that we actually have that kind of technology, that
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you were able to connect with people from around the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: world that way. Yeah, what you figured out how to
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: do it, it's pretty cool.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Uh well, that's the thing. I didn't figure it out. Actually,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it was my friend Charlotte from France, uh, the mother
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of Elise, who I did the h I wrote at
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: least in the Magic Well for my little children's novel.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: You know. She we was writing each other for a
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: while and then you know, one day she sent me
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: an email like, hey, if you know you're open to
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the possibility, you know, we can talk through Skype and everything,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and you know, that's how I found out about it,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and of course, you know, uh, I called her and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: we got it set up and approved and whatnot and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: started talking, you know, which it's freaking awesome. You know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to this you know, total heavy metal golf chick,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you know, who absolutely dotes on her daughter. And you know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: she she speaks English, but it's it's it wasn't very good.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: At the beginning. I could pretty much understand what she
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: was saying. Times I would have to kind of get
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: her to clarify it a little bit better, but it was,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like she show, She's vastly improved by the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: time I think we finished talking. Uh, you know, our
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: friendship kind of petered out last year because and she's
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: one of the ones that I did lose contact with,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you know, my friendship with simply because we was on
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: lockdown so much at Walling's Ridge, you know, which sucked
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: because she was such a cool, cool person.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: But hell, by the time we got around it then,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you know, dude, her English was better than mine and
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's literally the only language I speak.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: You were a lot of French learn.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did learn a little bit, Tom, And that's
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: pretty much calling out the window simply because you know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I had to book in everything that Michael One bought me.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: How to speak French for idiots or the idiots guy
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to French something like that, but I can't see the pronunciations. Well,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I can't hear the pronunciations. I mean I could see
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: it on paper, but I couldn't hear it. And I'd
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: spend a little bit of money trying to buy the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: how to speak French off of the Kiosk, JPay and whatnot.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But it goes so freaking fast, dude, you can't and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you can't really stop and rewind and Paul's and do
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: all that stuff without messing your tablet up after a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: couple of minutes, you know, So I just, yeah, I
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: wind up giving up on learning French. I would I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: definitely want to learn another language before you know, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: kicked the bucket, but it might be a little while.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well French. Yeah, French is definitely cool language to learn.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: You could do some cool traveling if you know French. Yeah,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it's way easier when you're a kid than if you're
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: an adult trying to learn it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Without question. But if I do learn French, I can
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: go to Quebec and kiss all a lot of hockey singers.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: This is true.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Go up there and start talking about
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: how great the Pittsburgh Penguins are. Yeah, sure go Wait
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a minute, Maple leafs in Toronto, right.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Montreal is Canadians, Montreal Canadians, right yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Quebec doesn't have a team anymore. You said, the Quebec Nordeaks.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Why why did they lose their team?
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Quebec city is not that big of a city, Like,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: it's not that to support like an NHL team, it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: not that big.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: But you have for one minute remaining, man, Well, buddy,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I guess we probably shouldn't record a fifteen hour podcast.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: No, you wrap it up, But that was cool. We're
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: definitely gonna do more of these because I like how
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: it's going so and I think it gives people a
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: little more insight into your like a little behind the
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: scenes type thing people are gonna like. So we'll definitely
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: do more.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Well for those of you listening, we appreciate it, and
• 30:13
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• 30:16
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• 30:18
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• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, buddy, I'll call you tomorrow.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: All right, sounds good, We'll talk to them, all right.
• 30:29
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