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- 0:32Speaker 1: you've not seen anything yet. We're gonna be talking about Amazon,
- 0:36Speaker 1: its logistics business and its ability to crush almost everything
- 0:40Speaker 1: in between the producer and the consumer of a product.
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- 4:45Speaker 1: a Bloomberg business flash. You're listening to Taking Stock with
- 4:49Speaker 1: Kathleen Hayes and Pim Fox on Bloomberg Radio. Amazon. Amazon
- 4:54Speaker 1: will least twenty Boeing seven six seven jets from Atlas
- 4:59Speaker 1: world Wide. That was announced yesterday. In March, Amazon also
- 5:03Speaker 1: agreed to least twenty Boeing seven six sevens from air
- 5:06Speaker 1: Transport Services Group. So is Amazon getting into the airline
- 5:10Speaker 1: and logistics business. Let's find out from my next guest,
- 5:14Speaker 1: Satish Jendal, joins me. Now, Satis Jendal is an expert
- 5:18Speaker 1: when it comes to the world of logistics and transport.
- 5:21Speaker 1: He is the founder and the president of s J
- 5:24Speaker 1: Consulting Satish. Always a pleasure, Thanks for coming in, Thanks
- 5:27Speaker 1: for having um. It just set the record so people
- 5:30Speaker 1: understand a little bit about your experience, so that they
- 5:33Speaker 1: are aware that you know a lot about logistics and
- 5:36Speaker 1: also about the changing nature of who's in the logistics business.
- 5:40Speaker 1: I have worked with every global transportation provider that we have,
- 5:45Speaker 1: from FedEx, do Ups to d h L to T
- 5:48Speaker 1: and T and on and on. And I've been in
- 5:52Speaker 1: this industry thirty some years, have been part of all
- 5:56Speaker 1: the major changes the industry has had an influence many
- 5:59Speaker 1: of them, and have worked with overtoned companies around the globe.
- 6:03Speaker 1: So and also deal with many of the retail shippers
- 6:07Speaker 1: through the technology of ship Matrix and have got great
- 6:10Speaker 1: insight into the paints they're experiencing. All right, So, now,
- 6:13Speaker 1: did you ever think that you will be writing about
- 6:16Speaker 1: Amazon as a shipping and logistics company? You know, for
- 6:20Speaker 1: people who know me, they are shocked that I could
- 6:22Speaker 1: put up paper like that about Amazon out And when
- 6:25Speaker 1: you had me on the taking Stock television a year
- 6:28Speaker 1: ago about minions, you saw what I had to say
- 6:31Speaker 1: about it. Amazon is a company that is a very
- 6:34Speaker 1: large company, but it operates like a very small company.
- 6:38Speaker 1: When they've put ideas, they don't waste time analyzing and
- 6:41Speaker 1: analyzing for a year it becomes dated. They implement and
- 6:45Speaker 1: they test it. If it works, they go forward. If
- 6:47Speaker 1: it doesn't, they move on to something else. And Amazon
- 6:51Speaker 1: is going to change the way people think of retail sector.
- 6:54Speaker 1: And let me put in perspective. Not many people will
- 6:57Speaker 1: realize that there used to be a time when when
- 6:59Speaker 1: you bought something from a retail store and you took
- 7:02Speaker 1: it back, they won't take it back. You couldn't take
- 7:04Speaker 1: it back. There was no returns, and if some of
- 7:06Speaker 1: them did take it, there the stocking fee. Today, every
- 7:09Speaker 1: retailer takes our return returns are very expensive for our retailer.
- 7:13Speaker 1: So what do they do? They take it? But then
- 7:15Speaker 1: who's paying for it? Everyone? It's part of the business
- 7:18Speaker 1: model Amazon exchanging that where they're gonna say free shipping
- 7:23Speaker 1: is part of the business model. You have to find
- 7:25Speaker 1: ways to recover the cost of shipping. And Amazon has
- 7:28Speaker 1: got the best model for it. That's gonna crush other
- 7:31Speaker 1: retailers who are struggling with it. Social investors who are
- 7:35Speaker 1: invested in fed X and UPS, should they be concerned.
- 7:40Speaker 1: They should be concerned from the perspective that those companies
- 7:43Speaker 1: need to respond at a faster pace to the changes
- 7:47Speaker 1: taking place in the e commerce world, and to the
- 7:50Speaker 1: extent that some of them will tell their investors that
- 7:53Speaker 1: we're not losing any business because our customers are not
- 7:56Speaker 1: going to Amazon. What Amazon is doing is when they
- 7:59Speaker 1: are shipping a billion packages a year and managing it themselves.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Those packages would have been part of a fed X
- 8:07Speaker 1: or a UPS or a post off the network. The
- 8:11Speaker 1: report that you put together about Amazon. Where can people
- 8:14Speaker 1: access this so that they can learn a little bit
- 8:16Speaker 1: more in detail? They can't get the details for free.
- 8:19Speaker 1: We've spent three months, over two fifty hours of research
- 8:24Speaker 1: assembling it, and people who wanted are placing orders for it,
- 8:28Speaker 1: and they can buy They can get the highlight from
- 8:30Speaker 1: the articles that they have been published. Vast Peak is
- 8:33Speaker 1: going to be including that in one of their reports,
- 8:36Speaker 1: but for the full details and the charts and the tables,
- 8:38Speaker 1: they would have to buy it. How much is this
- 8:41Speaker 1: going to cost Amazon to put together or is that
- 8:44Speaker 1: immaterial for a company of this size. You know Amazon
- 8:47Speaker 1: is going to spend sixteen billion on all of this
- 8:50Speaker 1: for this year, on the outbound shipping twenty two billion
- 8:53Speaker 1: next year. That's a lot of money, but it is
- 8:56Speaker 1: still a better model for them because what Amazons approaches
- 9:00Speaker 1: that my customer is my customer, and I want them
- 9:04Speaker 1: to have my kind of experience from the time they
- 9:06Speaker 1: place the order till it is delivered to their doorstep.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Turning it over to a carrier and washing your hands
- 9:12Speaker 1: off like retailers to is not the customer satisfaction model
- 9:15Speaker 1: that they are pushing, which I think is a very
- 9:17Speaker 1: high level of customer satisfaction. And they're going to to
- 9:21Speaker 1: English themselves from that perspective and whatever it takes for
- 9:24Speaker 1: them to build this, they're not trying to build it.
- 9:26Speaker 1: They're trying to control the distribution and the fulfillment. And
- 9:30Speaker 1: it's the control that's important that doesn't cost as much
- 9:33Speaker 1: as building it. Is. This also part of their strategy
- 9:37Speaker 1: to expand outside the United States. I mean, obviously it
- 9:40Speaker 1: already is global, but to reach even deeper into emerging
- 9:45Speaker 1: economies where they want to be big players. Yes, and
- 9:49Speaker 1: they're already doing that in India. I know it from
- 9:51Speaker 1: being my home country. They're doing it in Europe. Look
- 9:53Speaker 1: at their buying an airport in Germany. They can control
- 9:57Speaker 1: of it and what they plan to do. And this
- 10:00Speaker 1: is where people don't realize. The biggest target for Amazon
- 10:04Speaker 1: in their corporate offices is another company starts within eight
- 10:08Speaker 1: and it's not Walmart, and it's not Target and others.
- 10:11Speaker 1: It's Alabama. Because Alabama is approaching it in the perspective,
- 10:16Speaker 1: they're saying, I'm gonna make it easy for the manufacturer
- 10:19Speaker 1: to sell directly to the consumer, which is the real
- 10:22Speaker 1: value of Internet is connect pieces people without middleman. Amazon
- 10:26Speaker 1: is saying, ah, when it comes to product moving, I'm
- 10:29Speaker 1: going to control that because distribution is critical the goods
- 10:34Speaker 1: moving from one point to the other. And I'll have
- 10:36Speaker 1: the cheapest and the fastest solution that no manufacturer will
- 10:40Speaker 1: be able to offer. Thank you very much, Satisue Gindle
- 10:44Speaker 1: of s J and southing. Where where's the airport in Germany?
- 10:46Speaker 1: Maybe we'll go visit. It's near Frankfoot. Aye, we'll take
- 10:49Speaker 1: a little ship there in Amazon's new airport. Thank you
- 10:53Speaker 1: very much, satis Gender On Amazon, it wants to rule
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