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The Shadow Walkers & Dogman Encounters with Robby Raines · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Crypted Huntress. Welcome into
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  Speaker 1: on the Hunt. My goodness, we have a fantastic show tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I just happened to get my good friend mister Robbie
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  Speaker 1: Rains to join me tonight. And mister Robbie Rains is
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  Speaker 1: a published author now, you guys. And not only that,
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  Speaker 1: he's becoming a best selling author already, and so I
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  Speaker 1: am so proud of him, you guys. I've read part
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  Speaker 1: of his new book. I haven't had time to read
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing yet, but I was on the edge
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  Speaker 1: of my seat and it is fantastic. So we're going
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  Speaker 1: to get into his brand new book tonight. It's called
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  Speaker 1: The Shadow Walkers, and we're not just gonna get into
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  Speaker 1: that book. We're gonna I've made some connections between some
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  Speaker 1: of his personal experiences, maybe that he's even had with
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  Speaker 1: me out in the field when we were surrounded by
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  Speaker 1: Bigfoot or dog Man. We're not sure what it was.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was both at some point. So you guys,
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  Speaker 1: go get your popcorn. Welcome in. This is a Saturday
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  Speaker 1: night show. We're going to have a good bit of
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  Speaker 1: fun tonight. Y'all know it's always a good time when
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  Speaker 1: Robbie's here, and I know, I want to send all
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  Speaker 1: my love out to Da Roberts. I know Robbie's usually
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  Speaker 1: on Da X Makina every Saturday night and they have
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  Speaker 1: their show right before mine, and so so thank you
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  Speaker 1: for letting me borrow Robbie tonight. I'm just saying, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, we're gonna have a great time. I also
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  Speaker 1: want to thank everybody who was there with me today.
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  Speaker 1: We had a memorial for my grandmother today. My grandmother
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  Speaker 1: passed away about a month ago and we just had
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  Speaker 1: her We had her memorial today and I saw people
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  Speaker 1: I have not seen in twenty years probably it seemed like.
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  Speaker 1: And I had some wonderful cousins that I've never really
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  Speaker 1: gotten to hang out with very much before and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So gosh, they may be watching tonight. Okay, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be man in the chat to see if you
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  Speaker 1: guys are in here tonight, And so thank you guys
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  Speaker 1: for being here. If you're in here, And it was
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  Speaker 1: great seeing everybody today, and so thank y'all so much
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  Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart. It was a wonderful day.
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  Speaker 1: Today would have been my grandmother's ninety fourth birthday, y'all. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I can only hope that I live to be that
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  Speaker 1: long and have an adventurous life like her. I'm getting there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting there, but I got a few more years left, emmy, okay. So,
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  Speaker 1: but also I do want to take care of one
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  Speaker 1: more thing before we get the show started tonight. You
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  Speaker 1: guys will know that on Thursday night, I did have
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  Speaker 1: Aaron in the chat who informed me that my good
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  Speaker 1: friend Jeff Townsend had passed away. And y'all know Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure y'all will remember him from the dog Man
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  Speaker 1: in the Crosshairs that he came on the show and
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  Speaker 1: he let me interview him that night, along with Cryptidville Mark,
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  Speaker 1: who's also probably in the chat tonight. But my very
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  Speaker 1: good friend, my close friend, my bodyguard, my og henchman,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I call him. This is Jeff Townsend, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: and my heart has just been broken for the past
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  Speaker 1: couple of days. He passed away. So please send your
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  Speaker 1: prayers out to his family and and all of his friends.
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  Speaker 1: It is going to it's gonna take well. We'll never
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  Speaker 1: get over losing Jeff. He's He's a treasure and a
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  Speaker 1: very very wonderful person. Especially every being in the crypto
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  Speaker 1: community knows Jeff and and so please lift his family
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  Speaker 1: and all his friends up in prayer, you guys. And also,
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  Speaker 1: if you guys are wanting to, you know, contribute something
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  Speaker 1: in Jeff's honor, I highly recommend Standing Goats Rescue with
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  Speaker 1: Donnie Miller. If you guys know Donnie, He's just a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful human and Jeff loved Donnie so much in his
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  Speaker 1: entire family. And they have a it is called the
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  Speaker 1: Standing Goats Excuse Me Rescue down in Flo Florida, and
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  Speaker 1: they live out on the Panhandle. And so if you
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  Speaker 1: guys want to, you know, give a donation or contribute
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  Speaker 1: in any way in Jeff's honor, go to Standy Goat Rescue, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: You can find him on Facebook. And I don't have this,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any kind of PayPal information or anything.
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  Speaker 1: But I just that's just me. I mean, they're not
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  Speaker 1: asking for donation, y'all. I'm the one that's saying, please
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  Speaker 1: donate to them if you can. And I know Jeff
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  Speaker 1: will go down there. They have an area out there
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  Speaker 1: on their property called Jeff's Corner, and Jeff was I
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  Speaker 1: think he was with Donnie when he had that that
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  Speaker 1: incident where he saw the dog man the dog woman
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  Speaker 1: actually out there. I think that was in Florida. So
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  Speaker 1: so you know, it's uh. I just wanted to honor
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  Speaker 1: Jeff tonight, and and I know people who love him.
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  Speaker 1: I know his family's making some funeral arrangements right now
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  Speaker 1: and stuff, and and so I will keep those who
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  Speaker 1: know Jeff posted, okay on on what's going on there.
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  Speaker 1: But but thank you guys so much. I want to
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  Speaker 1: I sow the world's a better place because of Jeff Townsend,
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  Speaker 1: and he was often in our chats, and so most
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  Speaker 1: of you guys, a lot of y'all know Jeff, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and so yeah, so I dedicate this show and every
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  Speaker 1: show from here on out to Jeff Townsen, my og henchman. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that man had my back, y'all. He was one of
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  Speaker 1: the only people that ever truly always had my back.
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  Speaker 1: And we whooped somebody's butt for me, okay if I
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  Speaker 1: needed it. I'm sure there's lots of people who whoop
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  Speaker 1: some butt for me, okay, because I'd whoop but for
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  Speaker 1: them too, if y'all. I am so southern right now, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but but I'm always Southern. Can't take it out on me. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to our show tonight, y'all, because we have
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  Speaker 1: so much to talk about and I'm super excited to
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  Speaker 1: have Robbie here. Also, if you guys would like to
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  Speaker 1: find out what all I got going on with all
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  Speaker 1: the events that I'm going to be at, go over
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  Speaker 1: to my website that's the Kryptonhuntress dot com. You can
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  Speaker 1: find all of my shows there, and all the events
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  Speaker 1: that I'm going to be speaking at are there. Not
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  Speaker 1: all of them are posted yet, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: them are, and I'm including I'm a keynote speaker y'all
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  Speaker 1: over at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference this year. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to be in Dillard or not. Is it Diller, Nope,
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  Speaker 1: it's Demorous, Georgia, And so y'all come see me at that.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be Saturday, March to twenty second. It's
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  Speaker 1: coming up very soon, just in a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 1: And y'all might recognize some of the people on that
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  Speaker 1: fly right there. Those are not all the people on
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  Speaker 1: there that are going to be speaking, but it's a
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  Speaker 1: good bit of them. So y'all come see us. It's
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  Speaker 1: at Piedmont University and I would love to have y'all
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  Speaker 1: there with me. Okay. Also, I will be at the
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  Speaker 1: Full Disclosure Now Conference in July down in Florida and
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  Speaker 1: the Molina Bigfoot Festival in April. Okay, so I hope
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  Speaker 1: to see all y'all there. Okay, let's get to our show. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to our show. And thank you to all
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  Speaker 1: my moderators for being here tonight. You guys are the best. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So tonight we are going on a hunt
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  Speaker 1: with my good friend Robbie Rains to discuss shadow walkers.
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  Speaker 1: Are you all familiar with shadow walkers. We've talked about
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  Speaker 1: shadow chasers before. Now we got shadow walkers and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get into some local cryptid and creature reports
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  Speaker 1: out of South Carolina and out of Georgia. And Robbie
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  Speaker 1: and I have spent some time in the field together
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  Speaker 1: boots on the ground, and we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that tonight as well. Robbie Rains is a police officer
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  Speaker 1: who had his first bigfoot experience as a child. He's
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  Speaker 1: an active researcher investigator and a tracker. He co hosts
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  Speaker 1: a podcast, da x Makina, and he recently published his
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  Speaker 1: very first book in a series. It's titled Shadow Chasers.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's called Silver Star. Okay, please help me.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, My good friend, our good friend,
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  Speaker 1: Robbie Rains, Hey, Robbie, Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Jes Ho.
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  Speaker 1: I'm better now that you're here. It's good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a long time. I think last time we
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  Speaker 2: talked about the Beast to seven shootes. Wasn't that the
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  Speaker 2: last time I was on with you?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's the last time you're on. We talked about
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  Speaker 1: the Converse wear Wolf.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, Yeah, before that we did the Beast
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  Speaker 2: to seven shootes.
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  Speaker 1: We did, we did. We're always talking about dog men,
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  Speaker 1: wear wolves, bigfoots, all that stuff. It's always so great
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  Speaker 1: having really good conversations with you, because you and I
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  Speaker 1: were surrounded a couple of different times that we've been
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  Speaker 1: out in the field, possibly by some dog men. It
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  Speaker 1: won't that last time.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's one hundred percent. I believe that's what
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  Speaker 2: was there that time. It was because it felt completely
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  Speaker 2: different at that time than it did the first time
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  Speaker 2: it did.
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  Speaker 1: It did now you guys, and for people who are
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  Speaker 1: new to the channel or if you hadn't heard Robbie
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  Speaker 1: and I talk about our experiences together out in the field.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Robbie came to hang out with me when
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  Speaker 1: I was at the Georgia Bigfoot conference a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and we had I guess we got out
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  Speaker 1: in the field that night, right before the conference, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: we did it two years in a row. Actually, you've
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  Speaker 1: come up hang out with me. You know, I'm speaking
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  Speaker 1: at the next Bigfoot conference in a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 1: so if you're free, I won't come out and hang out.
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  Speaker 1: But we were up there. We we went out to
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  Speaker 1: the woods late at night, and uh, the first year
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  Speaker 1: we we got surrounded by I think it was bigfoot.
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  Speaker 1: That was that was definitely bigfoot in my book. We
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  Speaker 1: were talking things were great, that the bugs were chirping
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  Speaker 1: really loud, and we started screaming over each other basically,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and all of a sudden, the bugs quit chirping,
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  Speaker 1: and Robbie and I were still screaming over each other.
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  Speaker 2: And uh. And to answer Jennifer Lee's question that that
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  Speaker 2: time was before there was such thing as Robbie Wrangler
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  Speaker 2: that kind of Uh Noah had not become the Robbie
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  Speaker 2: Wrangler at that point, so no, there was no But
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  Speaker 2: well we talked about that because uh, we were both
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  Speaker 2: the same way, because you was like, yeah, I probably
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  Speaker 2: needed Jessica Wrangler too.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well we we we were surrounded by
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  Speaker 1: something that night, and and you know, whenever those bugs
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  Speaker 1: stopped chirping and the woods go completely mute, there is
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  Speaker 1: a predator in the vicinity. There's something there, and you
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  Speaker 1: and I looked just my heart almost stopped at that point.
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  Speaker 1: It was wild and we looked at each other and
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  Speaker 1: we're like, oh, there's something here.
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  Speaker 2: The something. I felt like there was something behind you,
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  Speaker 2: and you got at the same time, got the feeling
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  Speaker 2: that there was something behind me. Then you got the
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  Speaker 2: feeling that something was down there around your car. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he doll. So yeah, we decided to get down to
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  Speaker 2: your car so we didn't get cut off.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh no, but we we got out of there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we didn't, but we didn't leave immediately, but
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  Speaker 1: we got down to the truck just to put some
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  Speaker 1: space between us and the threat, and the threat was.
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  Speaker 2: I never felt like that night. Anyway, I never felt
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  Speaker 2: like it was anything. I felt it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: I think it was more curiosity than anything else. I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't feel like I mean, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I cleared leather, but I don't. I didn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: we were in any kind of danger that night. The
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  Speaker 2: other night, the second time around this.
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  Speaker 1: Next year, almost one year to the day we did,
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  Speaker 1: we did it again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, and we've talked about a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of times since. The difference was Ben was with us
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  Speaker 2: that night. But I still I still just feel yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I still feel like it was. I feel like we
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  Speaker 2: were being hunted.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what, here's here's the thing, y'all. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So we talk about this occasionally. It's it's all the
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  Speaker 1: experience is different depending upon like, first of all, whatever's
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  Speaker 1: out there, of course, but it's who's with us, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And it was almost like we we had that urge
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  Speaker 1: to just we knew there was something wrong. We needed
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  Speaker 1: to get out of there, and we trucked it down
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  Speaker 1: to the truck basically is what we did. And and
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like that was because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it was because my son was there. We had a
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  Speaker 1: kid with us. You know, he was not a little kid,
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  Speaker 1: but he's still you know, he's still.
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  Speaker 2: A thin I think if you'd just seen what I saw,
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  Speaker 2: because you were concentrated on getting your keys out and
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  Speaker 2: getting down on the truck, if you just saw what
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  Speaker 2: I saw when I turned back around, I think you
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  Speaker 2: would have had a completely different feeling about that night.
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  Speaker 1: We might have started shooting at something. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: good thing. I'm just kidding. I don't ever shoot, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I was kidding. We never never, ever shoot, ever shoot
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  Speaker 1: unless life is in immediate danger. Okay, don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't have my kid, saw my mama bear. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But then there comes the whole thing of like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I was in their territory, and but we weren't expecting that, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we were not expecting that. Nothing ominously that had happened.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's some weird stuff that's happened up there, right,
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  Speaker 1: but not like that. And so we were definitely surrounded
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  Speaker 1: by something, and we definitely were seeing shadowy figures walking
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  Speaker 1: around around us and going from tree to tree and
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  Speaker 1: doing all that kind of stuff and ducking out behind bushes,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's reminding me of some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: I was reading in your book, this new book that
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  Speaker 1: you've got you just put out. I feel like maybe
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  Speaker 1: you've taken some of your personal experience and applied it
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  Speaker 1: into this amazing book that you just wrote.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, am I wrong? Now You're really on track, you
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  Speaker 2: know I kind of I kind of learned from, in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, one of the best. Yeah. You and I've
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  Speaker 2: talked about this that I've had this story or a
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  Speaker 2: version of this story bounce around in my head probably
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  Speaker 2: twenty five thirty years, and I've always just been I
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  Speaker 2: can't write a book. I don't know how to do this.
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  Speaker 2: I do that, And DA has been on my tail
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  Speaker 2: ever since Hen and I've been friends. You need to
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  Speaker 2: write this. You need to write it. You need to dude.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that hard. And I'm like, I can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't
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  Speaker 2: do it. Finally, Uh, somebody talked me into it. And
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  Speaker 2: that person knows who that person is. And I just
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  Speaker 2: I was laying there one night having trouble one to sleep,
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  Speaker 2: and just because I kid you not, it was like
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  Speaker 2: somebody stuck a funnel in my in my ear and
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  Speaker 2: poured the first three chapters of that story into my head.
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  Speaker 2: I just came up with the first three chapters like that.
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  Speaker 2: So I went to work next day, and I usually
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  Speaker 2: get there about an hour before the kids started getting there.
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  Speaker 2: I sat down in my office and just just first
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  Speaker 2: three chapters just like that. It was just like and
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of been flowing like that from I'm already
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  Speaker 2: fifteen fifteen and a half thousand words into the second book.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, carriedy on book number two. Well that
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  Speaker 1: just means that you're you're meant to do this. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it because it's really good from super impressed.
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  Speaker 2: But to answer your question, yeah, EA taught me or
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  Speaker 2: told me. He said, Look, he said, you've been writing
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  Speaker 2: reports for thirty years as a cop. He said yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he said yeah, he said write it the same way.
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  Speaker 2: He said, obviously, don't write it as a police report.
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  Speaker 2: But he said, you know where when he said, you
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  Speaker 2: know how to put this stuff together, just do it
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: so and he also taught me right about what you know.
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  Speaker 2: He said, don't make stuff up as far as this.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously the main character is not me per se,
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  Speaker 2: but his backstory and a lot of the stuff was
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  Speaker 2: filled in a lot of his his life was filled
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  Speaker 2: in with the stuff from my life, So it was
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  Speaker 2: it was a lot easier for me to fill in
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  Speaker 2: those gaps with my life. And it just makes that
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  Speaker 2: character a whole lot easier to flesh out. It makes
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  Speaker 2: them a whole lot more relatable because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: that stuff that I wrote about is really what stuff
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  Speaker 2: that happened to me. The first part of the book
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  Speaker 2: where I talk about the my dad taking me to
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  Speaker 2: jumping off, that's a real place in the horse pasture.
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  Speaker 2: All the places in the book are real. That place
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  Speaker 2: and that story about the jeep and standing out there
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  Speaker 2: watching the thunderstorm, that that one hundred percent is real
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  Speaker 2: that my dad and I witnessed that. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just but DA was right. It makes it a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot easier when you're writing that way too, when
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  Speaker 2: you just base it on stuff like that and you
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: don't have to sit there and say, now what am
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  Speaker 2: I going to do here? It just it makes it
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot easier.
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  Speaker 1: I can imagine, Oh my gosh, Okay, So I just
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  Speaker 1: want to say one thing, because I brought that up
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  Speaker 1: where you and I were out there in the field
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  Speaker 1: and we got we had the crickets that were chirping
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  Speaker 1: really loud, and then they went quiet. Because it reminded me,
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  Speaker 1: and this is so wild because what was it twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, so it would have been twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 1: when that happened, and your book starts off in May.
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  Speaker 1: That's the month that we were out there. It was
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and an event just like that happened
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: similar not just like what we had, but it was
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I think it was supposed to be dated like that
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: same month, and that's when we had that thing with
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the crickets to charp and I was like, oh my god,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I wonder if he's basing that off kind of what
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: happened to us out there a little bit. So, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, maybe I was imagining anything.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: No, there was, there was no, like I said, basing
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: it on real.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Think about you know when he got out of the
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: vehicle and he was walking up there and he didn't
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: hear any sounds any critters. If you think back, if
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you remember when that happened, I said, oh crap, the
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: critters just stopped the critters.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Uh, it was it was all
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the critters. Well, I like, I like to say I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: was talking about critter control. Okay, but that's something different
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But we do have a lot of
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: critters out there where we go in big and small
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and uh, and there was a big critter that made
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: all the little critters and go quiet, honest sound there.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: So I was actually super you know what, maybe I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: just get a little more excited reading this kind of
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: stuff because I experienced some of that with you okay
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: out there, and I was like, oh, this is in
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the book. So yeah. And then right before we went live,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, y'all, you need like a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Crypti huntress in your book at some point. Okay, that
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: was kind of kidding, but anyways, I don't know.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of real world, real world elements they
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: are going to be in the d A and I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: talked about it. Yeah, because I'm under his bank and
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: this is this is kind of a funny argument to
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: him and I always and he's like, dude, sure book.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I said, I know that, but I'm under your banner.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: So I want to make sure that I put out
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: something that that you're proud of because it's your name
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: that I'm representing there. So you know we always argue
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: about that. Hey, Rodney, uh Rodney is in there. He's
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that's my old chief that was, and he's in the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: book too. He was putting the reason for the book
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: is do you remember the how that was recorded here
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: that I told you, Roy, He's the one that sent
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that to me. So that's why I wrote that in
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the book the way that did, because he was the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: one that actually sent that howl to me at first.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So that's why I was wrote in the book that way,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: with him bringing or bringing the how to our attention.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I just I weaved in all this real world stuff
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and just just just like the lady that was killed
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: in the worst pasture, she fell off a ravine, but
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: all the rest of the stuff is true. Well, I mean,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: obviously we don't know that an eight foot werewolf grabbed
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: a hold over and threw her off of ravene, but
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the rest of the story is pretty much the way
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: it happened. She was missed, and the dogs wouldn't go
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: in there and search search, rescue dogs wouldn't go search.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: They found one of the dogs never found the other dog.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So all that stuff was real. I just I just
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: kind of added a few things here and there to it.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: But it's it's an actual it's an actual thing that happened.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, well it gets a little gets
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a little bloody. I'm just gonna say in your book,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and uh, and that's always it's always fun. I know
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: it sounds kind of morbid, but okay, it's actually kind
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: of you know, it makes for a good it makes
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: for a good book. So that's interesting to know that
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: there's some real life situations and you are a police officer.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: You take a lot of calls, and I know for
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: a fact that you guys have some pretty well known
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: legends and lore around where you live out in South Carolina.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Robbi's from South Carolina, y'all. Okay, right outside rightside Georgia
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: where I'm from. And and we we went over. I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: did a whole show on the Anderson were Wolf. How
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: far are you from Anderson, Carolina, South Carolina.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Well, depending on what part of it I mean, I
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: could be to Anderson fifteen minutes or because the upper
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: part of Anderson is like literally just on the other
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: side of Easily. Actually, when I worked at easy Police Department,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: there were parts of the city that were actually in
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Anderson County. But that's probably a good good way. Anderson's
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: big county. That's probably a good way from there. But
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: like I said, depending on what part of Anderson, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: can be ten fifteen minutes to Anderson County.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Oh well, this was back in nineteen forty five though,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing, like, we don't know the lifespan
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: of dog men and were wolves and bigfooting on this.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Were wolves are actually supposed to be humans. That change,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of course, But you know, I think back in the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, this is when this was seen by
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: hundreds of people that lived in Anderson. Nineteen forty five,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I think just about everything was called a werewolf. I
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: don't think the anybody called where you know, a dog
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: man a dog man.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: It turns all this. It was not till like eighty six.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I think that that was That phrase was somewhere in
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the mid to late eighties. There was a dj in
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Michigan who started calling it the Michigan dog Man because
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of it was the Beast of Bray Road
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: and those sightings up there. So they just started calling
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: it the Michigan dog Man and like Bigfoot. The term
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: dog man stuck. You know, it's bigfoot what determinuntil you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the fifties when the reporter that and it was the
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: lumber company that was not far from Bluff Creek where
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: all the big heavy fifty five gallons of drum fifty
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: five gallon drums of fuel had been thrown down the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: hill and big machinery had been messed with. So somebody
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: takes a picture of the tracks and the reporter puts,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you know, the little tagline on story, Bigfoot terrorizes lumber camp,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot stuck. That's how Bigfoot came about, and that's how
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: dog Man came about. So before for that, it was
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: wild man or hairy man or you know, me and
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: d a joke all the time. They must have pulled
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: every every wild Man of Borneo must have been pulled
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: over here and survived a train wreck at some point
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: in the early eighteen hundreds, because that's what you want
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: with the wild Man of Borneo, you know, train wrecked
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: going to the circus, and the wild Man of Borneo escaped.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if they keep kept catching him
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: and putting him back on train, and train kept derailing
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: and he kept getting loose or if they had hundreds
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: of them they took from Borneo. But that but that's
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: those started the Tennessee wild man, uh, hairy man, tall man,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: all the you know, every First Nation tribe's got a
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: different name for big foot. She had Tonka, Guguay, Genoskua.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: It just goes on and on. But we say it's
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: like we, you know, kleen X, we call all tissues
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: clean X. Yeah, we can martentalize everything and that. Yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: but it's a lot broader than than what we give
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: it credit for.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That's right. We got all these categories and sub categories
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: of dog men and bigfoot and were wolf and there's
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: it's just it's always up for debate, which is actually
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: kind of good for us because we have these podcasts
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: we like to talk about it so we can break
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: it all down. We got plenty of shows to do
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it on and uh, and so that's what makes it
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: fun and keeps it interesting for us. So, yeah, those
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: those were wolves that are were wolf springs, they were
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: supposed to have come off of a trendy railment accident
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: from a traveling circus or a fair that was in town.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And that was another while man a Barneyo Escape.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, those where it was. You know, me
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and some of the guys have actually talking on one
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of my teams, we've talked about maybe trying to go
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've actually, uh we've talked about doing a couple
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: of meat and greets out there, and uh, it's just
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: a matter of trying to get everything going, which actually
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I talked to DA but seeing if you wanted to
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: kind of uh go in together and do a meet
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and Greek because it's not that's kind of like a
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: mid midway point for I mean, obviously you and I
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: are close anyway, but that's kind of a midway point
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: for not really for Doc because he's in he's in Colorado,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: so he's further on past everybody, but still, I mean
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: for d A and for you know, it's kind of
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: sort of a midway point. So we thought about doing
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: that and get the wood Walkers involved, Greg and Fincer
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and uh Missy and all them.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: H I'm in on that. That'd be fun. And I
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: got most of my Cryptid Warfare team. They're all up
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in Tennessee and and this is I think it's Montgomery
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Bell State Park and uh so's it's a nice little
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: drive for me. But it's not that bad.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: The bad the not that it's bad, but the only
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the hardest part about that, or the worst part about that,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: is how far in you have to actually hike to
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: get to where most where the cabins supposed to I
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think it's still there where the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: hunter spent the night in the cabin with the thing
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: jumping up and trying to get him in the roof.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the cabin's still there. But to
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: get that it's like a I want to say, like
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: a six or seven, maybe even a ten mile high.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I knew it was, it was on in there.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: It's a lot.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a ways to get in there. So
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: it's not just like it's not like going to the
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: LBL and camping and something's happened within fifty feet of
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: anywhere you camp, because there's just so much going on.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: It's it's what it's a hot to get from where
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you go in where the good stuff, so to speak, happens.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Robbie, Okay, so you know this past summer, back in July,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: me and my guys went out to Alabama to that
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: dog Man investigation, and we had in five miles in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the blistering sun, and it was it was hot. It
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: was really hot. Five miles was a lot, and and
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: so once we got in there, there's no there's no
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: running out of there night because there's no We were
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: not on any trail at all, and we were depending
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: upon basically one of the guys that had been out
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: there before to kind of get us in and out
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: because it's so so dense and stuff. It was wild.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know Drewski's in the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: chat tonight, but shout out to Drewski. Is Drewkie's birthday
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: this week, By the way, Cryptid Warfare podcast, y'all go subscribe.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Happy birthday Drewskie from the Cryptid Huntress. Okay and Robbie,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: but but yeah, we actually it's it's rough. Okay, it's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: really rough doing that high, especially with all your gear,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and then you get out there and you got your
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: hammock set up or your you know, little small one
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: man tents, your bivoax and and it's it's dangerous and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: uh but I mean for me it's worth it. It'd
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: be fun. But ten miles is double what we already did.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's a lot. Yeah, so the weather would have to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: be just right, Robbie if I were to do that one.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to Missouri in at
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the end of April for mary Ann's expedition and there's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: gonna be some hiking in network, camping out for the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: for the whole week. I'm going to teach a tracking class.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's good that one. That's that's a they
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: no hotel or amenute. You're bring a tent, bring a
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: sleeping bag, or bring a hammock and camp out for
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: a couple of days.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: So oh yeah, that sounds fun. That sounds a lot
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of fun. Shoot out. Well, Larry Sharp, thank you so
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: much for that supersticker. I appreciate you, says Happy Saturday
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: in prayer. Jeall, thank you so much. And then I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: saw after you did that, you gifted ten memberships to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the Cryptid huntress on. It's called the hunt Club actually
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the hunt Club on that's where I put exclusive content up.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Larry. Oh my god, that's so great. We
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: have a lot of new Hunt Club members y'all, So
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: thank y'all so much for being a part of that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: And Larry that's amazing of you, very much appreciate and
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Zoe Stark, thank you so much for becoming a member
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: as well. So, man, the support is just off the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: chain over here, and U and I appreciate each and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: every one of y'allfered that for sure. But uh but wow. Yeah, Okay,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: so let's go back and talk a little bit. Okay,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: so you knew a lot about this, Anderson Werewolf have
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you have you have y'all done a show on this before,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: because I'm super impressed you had some knowledge on it. Yeah, well,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: what's right there in your backyard?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think we I think Johnny and
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I may have talked about it on What's Really out
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: There when we were still doing that podcast. I don't
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: think we've ever talked about it on DA X Makina.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, I obviously, like you said,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: it's in my backyard basically, so I wouldn't consider myself
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: like an expert on it. That's just it's just one
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: of those things that you you know, when you start
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: you start looking for stuff around the area to either
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: talk about on a show or possible about or you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: it's one of those things that comes up so I
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say I know everything about it, but it's just
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: it was one of those things that it's kind of like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: you know, every every city or there's a city in
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: every town that's got a Crybaby bridge. It's kind of
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: like one of those every every town some sometime around
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the you know, end of the Civil War to maybe
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you know, fifty sixty years after that, had a trained
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: derailment and had something like this escape from it. I mean,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: it's just some of them go into the category of, well,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: we just had it because this other one did, and
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: some obviously some of them really happened. So you just
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: got to kind of weed through all that stuff and
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: figure out what's what really happened, what didn't.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, we don't have a lot of treup. Well,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: we've we've had actually, it's had some trendy reilments the
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: past a couple of years here, several bunchs last year
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: for some strange reason. But you don't hear about you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: we don't have traveling circuses as much that take trains. Now, okay,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: we don't have all that. And back in the day,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you know what they called a side show, or some
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: people call them freak shows were really popular. And before
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: we had you know a lot of television sets and
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you know internet and cable television. That was the main attraction.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: That was the entertainment was when the county fair would
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: come in. You know, they have the county Fair, they'd
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: have a state fair, they'd have the circus that rolled
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: into town. That was their main source of entertainment.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Right well, I mean they really they still did that
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: stuff like that when I was I mean I didn't
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: come in on trains obviously semi trucks, but I can
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: remember South Carolina upper State South Carolina Fair that used
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: to come in come to the Greenville pick and Speedway,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and that was one of the things that me and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: my real dad did every every time it came in
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: on September and it had stuff like that. It had
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you know, like the snake Woman all the freak show,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: that's what it was called. So you know, that's that's
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: been a tradition in this country for many years. I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: mean that goes back to, like I said, you know,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: around the Civil War era. Because they didn't have the googles,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: as we like to say on the ax Makina can't
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: just get on the type up on the Googles and
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: get some you know, some entertainment. And that's that's. That
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: was their entertainment stuff like that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: That was you know, it's so wild that you know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: you gotta think, oh, what's that? Yeah, you gotta you
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: gotta think like that's I mean, the the weirder the better, too, right,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: The weirder the better. I'm sure every I don't know
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: how many services they had, but I would think that,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you know, you gotta have it. Got a wolf man,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know, I'm gonna go see that.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Back in the day, I would have gone to see
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: that for sure.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Like you said, the weirder the better. That's and sonny
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: know she lives she lives here in South Carolina too.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: That was that was a tradition, is going to places
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: like that. And and every sept every September, the Upper
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: State Fair came came to the Greenvile Picking Speedway, and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: you know, there was some weird stuff that they had
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: and a lot of it was optical illusions and you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: things like that. But that's just that's that was the
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: kind of Oh my god, did you see that? That
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: kind of thing, I mean, and that they they work
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: on the Shop Factor.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well that's the same to do though, right,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Because I was talking with Vic kund Off a while back.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: He's been on the show several times and Vic was
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: telling me I've been on his show too. Okay, but
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: but he was talking about how we're talking about because
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: there's so many podcasts out there, right, there's so many
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: different shows that are on and uh, and it's it's
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: like you see some some shows are like it's always
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: like dog men attack, you know, werewolf slashes people or something.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: It's just something that so there's just a lot of
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you know, violence and stuff. And and if you if
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: you look at all the reports of dog men, Okay,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of the reports we get eyewitness reports, they're
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: not generally if you go like if you're doing like
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: a percentage, right, the majority percentage of the encounters with
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: dogmen are not violent at all. They're just like they're
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, it's just you know, they just saw
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it and maybe the dog main looked at them, you know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and scarily the one that you and I had, you know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: we were surrounded. We we just got out of there. Okay,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: we got out of there. Nothing hurt us. We were fine.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: We got out of there. We respected their territory, they
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: respected us. Okay. But but you know, if you if
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you watch some YouTube channels and stuff and you saw
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: some shows, you'd be like, man, dogmin are just out
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: there to rip everybody to shrends all the time.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of that comes from if you
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: listen to a lot of people who talk about their encounters.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Well's up, Brad, my buddy, Brad had graduated with me. Nice,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that's uh, fourth grade. I think, Brad right way back.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: We're getting old. But I think in fourth grade anyway.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of that comes from if you
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: listen to a lot of the like bigfoot encounters, you'll
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: hear people say, oh, it was you know, the typical
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Harry and the Henderson's type or Patterson Gimlin type, where
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: it was you know, it's just out there was doing that. You.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Very very rarely do you hear people will give the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I was you know, lucky to get
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: out of there. There are those, but very very rare.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: But it's kind of the opposite when you start listening
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: to a lot of people who talk about dog man encounters.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: It's kind of on the more rare side to have
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: one like DA's where you know, he's just driving by
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and things just kind of leaned up against the tree,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: just looking around and sees them and turns out and
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: takes off. A lot of them describe you know, demonic
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: and hell hound, red eyes that's scared to live in
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: daylights out of it. But I don't think that's an
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: actual true dog man. I think there's a lot more
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: to I think, h I believe there's there's demons out
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: there or after people, after the human race, and kind
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: of sort of if you probably kind of sort of
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: got that from the first part of the book that
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I think there's a there's there's a difference between a
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: dog man and what people used to call a a
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: were wolf or a shape shift or anything like that.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: And you know, William will probably agree with me on this.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I think if something knows what your fear is, if
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you're scared to death of a were wolf, that's probably
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: what you're going to see. That's probably it. So you
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I think that a lot of these people that have
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: those kind of encounters, I think it's more of some
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: kind of evil spirit and that's just that's the form
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: it takes. That that's just I'm not saying I'm right
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: and not saying I'm wrong. I'm just that that's that
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: to me makes a lot more sense because if you
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: start looking at what people say there, there's not a
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: whole lot of all I just want to go up
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: and pet it. It's like, I'm God, I thought it
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: was gonna rip my face off even though nothing happened. Yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: but that's that's a lot of the feeling that they
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: say they have was, you know, they were scared to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: death because of so you know, I don't know, Like
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I said, it's just that's my opinion. That's how it
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: seems to me like it could be.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I agree, Okay, I agree. And here's the thing. Okay,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: so getting into the big footing stuff, I never I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: never really thought about all this anything being demonic out there. Okay. Ever,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and I've been in the woods for ten years before
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I ever went public, okay, talking about it. And it
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't until I started doing podcasting and interviewing people from
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: all over the world about their experiences with cryptids, and
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I started getting a lot of people coming on the shows,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: especially when it came to the dog men phenomenon, people
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: who had had first hind encounters with dog men, according
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to their testimony, mean what they were telling me. They
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: were saying, you know, there was something that felt demonic.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: It things felt demonic, and you know people that have
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: had you know, I've had encounters with eats before and stuff.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I've never I never got the feeling that they were
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: like demonic.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I just didn't.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: But the more it's becoming more common to have people
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: think that they're they're demonic.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Well, see I last time or last last year. I
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: guess whenever it was, I didn't feel like that was
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: a demonic encounter that we had. I felt like that
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: was that was an animal encounter. I felt like those
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: were actual what most people would call an actual dog,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: but just just an actual animal. I don't think it's
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: anything anything else, because I didn't get that, you know,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't get that feeling of oh my god, you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I got that feeling we need to get
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: out of here, because if we don't, we're invading territory
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna you know it, We're challenging we're challenging
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: their territory. And I felt like that's why we needed
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: to get out. Yeah, and a small small part of it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I felt like maybe was the hunting aspect, like maybe
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: they were hunting us to a certain extent, but it
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: may have just been like like you said, it may
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: have just been a territorial challenge and they were just
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: pushing us out that way. And that's just HM, because
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the six to one half does and another there's still
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: we need to get out of here. Uh, everybody wants
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: my hat.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants your hat.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: MH.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: You need to you need to sell some hats on
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: your website.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: This one. I do make hats, so I don't have
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: one closest I can grab anyway. A lot of people
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: have seen those. But I think that there are things
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: out there that and you know, who's to say some
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: of these some of these, you know, the big Foot
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: encounters were you know where it's like whether it's a
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: gogue or a genoskua or something like that. Who's to
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: say that that's not something that's a little bit more.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, because you know a lot of people, you know,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: my opinions as far as you know Bigfoot being able
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: to go into a portal one hundred percent believe that
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: they know they know how to backtrack. The actual animals
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about anything else.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: But if there is something out there that is a
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: demanding spirit that is using those kind of disguises, so
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: to speak, then it's very little possible that people who
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: have seen these things go into portals that's what they're seeing,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: and because they would be able to do that. So
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe maybe everybody's right. It's what I'm saying.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe it just maybe it depends on what you saw.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: If you see an animal, because that's that. I've never
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: seen anything in the field that gives me anything any
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: other notion of than animal. You and I have had
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: this talk, and that's all I've ever seen. I've never
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: seen any behavior that leads me to believe anything other
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: than animal. And I've had pretty good, you know, encounters,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: especially since I really started getting out there. You know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: every time we went out, we've had a had some
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: type of encounter. Every time DA and I went out,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: we've had some. I mean this this past when we
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: had in Missouri, Doc actually saw some on thermal And
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: if I had a dollar for every time I heard
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Doc say thermal, don't lie that weekend, I probably have
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: about forty dollars.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Thermal don't lie. You need to get some t shirts
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: that say that't lie.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: We got we got back to the hotel room and
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I was sitting on the couch and Doc's room and
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: he was pacing back and forth. He was just like
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: and he'd looked at me every five seconds, say, Thermal,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: don't lie, Thermal, don't lie. I'm my I got your brother. Thermal,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: don't lie. Because that he believed, and he's had paranormal encounters,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: but that was his first ripped it encounter. And he
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: he was on that that high that that oh my god,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: because d A and I were walking up the up
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: the road and he saw one off to our right
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: and it looked to him like it was trying to
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: flank us well, and he lost the lost sight of
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: that one. So he looks back and sees me in
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: DA and he looks up in front of me in
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: DA about twelve thirteen, maybe even twenty yards ahead of us,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and he sees two more. He sees the he can
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: see the reflective residuals coming off the tree, and he
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: sees two big figures behind the tree. Because he can
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: he drew a picture when we got back to the
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: hotel room, and it was. It was eerie how close
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: or how good this picture he drew was because he
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: drew the exact area we were at, and you can
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: see that one was probably about eight foot tall and
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: one was probably about seven foot tall, and they were
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: like behind the trees, and they looked at him when
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: he switched the infrared on. I think our theory about
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: them being able to see the infrared spectrum is true
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: because he said as soon as he flipped that infrared on,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: they went and hit started or kind of turning and
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: started trying to hide their selves behind the tree.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: They can see that light that if they've got an
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: IR light, they got any kind of anything coming off
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: of them, the sense that they feel that they can.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: See it, because he said when he had the thermalist,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: they didn't move as soon as he flipped that IR on.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: It's like they were like kind of turned themselves behind
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: or behind the tree.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: That's a spotlight for them. Robbie, I mean, they can
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: they know they're being watched at that point.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: That was that was the point that he was he
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: started calling me in Dick because we were like forty
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: or fifty yards away from him and Noah. Yes, Noah's
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: was falling down his Robbie rangling job that night. But
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, the doc started calling us back because yeah,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: he was like, we're fixing d A and I were
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: fixing to be cut off because he had lost sight
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: of the other one and we were gonna getting in
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: between those two and this one here and this was
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: this was after I did the wolf howl, and they
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: started getting kind of aggressive because, uh, DA did the
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: tongue click nothing, Dot did a couple of out owl calls. Nothing,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I did a whoop, nothing, I did a wolf call.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: We immediately got I mean like as soon as the
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: wolf howl finished, we get an exact mimic to Doc's
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: owl call that he did did like three minutes before that.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I was like wolves don't or I was don't usually
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: answer wolves. But it sounded like a thousand pound owl,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: real deep, real throaty. But it was exactly it was.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: It was an exact mimic to docs.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: So wow, that's what bigfoots do, Like they will they
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: will mimic animals that they think that they think that
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: they're tricking us, but it doesn't sound like the actual animal.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: It's just it's a little bit off. Sometimes.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was exact an exact mimic what Doc did.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: But like I said, it sounded like a thousand pound hourl.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: You just had a real big, you know, like a
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: real deep base, and you know it didn't have that,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: you know, and owls like smooth and just kind of
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: flows out. You could just tell. It was just the
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: pitch was different and it was real throaty, but it
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: was as far as the actual sound and what Doc
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: sounded like when he did it, the reply once I
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: got done with my wolf owl was identical to what
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Doc did. And that's the same thing that happened to
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: me and Johnny and Taylor and Tyler and Greg Ogels
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: when we were in lb L. Johnny did three alcohols
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: and he gets two perfect mimics, and the third one
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: was just like, and we're.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: All that's their baritone or base. That was okay, that's
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been like they're very they're
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: very white. Oh out there. He just had a deep voice, right,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. We have a question from Andrews. So
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: do they do they admit a heat signal with the
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: thermal cryptos? Almost always, I'm not saying every every always,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: but they usually do. Yes, they you can't see them
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: on thermal, you can.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Doc saw them. He saw at least four that
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: night on thermal.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, And you said they were really tall, to
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: like eight feet tall.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: One of them, and he was looking uphill at him,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: So they could have been taller than that because he
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: was back to the thing like the you know, was
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: up here, so he was they were up here, and
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Dot would have been down here, so they could have
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: been a lot taller. Now he's just estimating it. But
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: there was one that was shorter than one that was taller.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: And he was saying the short one was probably at
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: least seven and a half the other one was at
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: least eight and a half eight to eight and a
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: half feet.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: So, oh yeah, Kent Baxter, thank you for that supersticker.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: He says. Where wolves have always been my favorite ever
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: since the Lawn Cheney Junior days, is that the guy
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: from the Howling.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Okay is the one from the original where the original
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Wolfman back in the uh forties or fifties, the one
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: uh Claude Rains played his dad, this one where he
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: had the silver wolf head cane. Uh in Meliva, that's
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: where they'll they put the old uh even a man
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: who is pure at hard and says his prayers by
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: night may become a wolf. The wolf as the wolf
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: fangs ballooms and the autumn moon is full of bright
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: for that old Beni ci O deel Toro and Anthony
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Hopkins that that movie was the remake of the original
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Wolfman that he's talking about. Lawn Chaney Junrnchany Junior played
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Larry Talbot Lawrence Talbot. Excuse me he called He called
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: himself Larry and his dad called him Lawrence. But yeah,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: I'm you.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Guys, You and you and Barry, a bunch of the
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: guys come on the show, y'all. Y'all know your movie
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: is real good. I'm I'm horrible about movies and actors.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I'm terrible with all of it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: You have no idea When me, Dot, Noah and uh
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: the A get together, it is is it's it's horrible
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: for anybody who doesn't know because that movie movie quotes
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: start and they never stopped.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can quote Tallady good Nights. Y'all know,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: y'all know I can do that. Okay, everything I can.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I can quote movies like that. Okay, but uh but
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: but Kent says to find out they're real was awesome. Okay, yeah,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: it can be awesome and terrifying at the same time,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: for sure. And uh and I don't know if there's
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: like an uptick in rituals and dark magic and dark
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: dark practices or something. I mean, I started thinking other
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: day I was having a conversation with somebody. I forgot
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: who it was, but on one of my shows, we're
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the Beast of LBL and you've
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: been to.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: The l b L.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I've been looking at a little different lately because I
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: used to think it was a dog mans. You hear
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: about dog men. It's kind of the collective consciousness. It's
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: think the dog men are up there. There's a dog
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: man that the dog men attacked that family back in
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. So even dog men dogmen, I'm thinking
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: it might have been wearing wolves. Actually, I just think that's.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Kind of why I did did the way I did
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: in the book and kind of made that drew that line,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: you know, I put the dog soldiers in there, put
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: the Altamontineo. Then I said, you know, okay, that's a
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: willing choice to somebody from from Lakota or you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Cherokee or whoever decides that they're gonna follow that path,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: they make that decision. But if they turn and follow
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: the dark side, then they they turned in the beast
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: and they never turned back. So I got to thinking,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, what happens if it's obviously you know,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: you everbody knows all the werewolf tropes, You get bittness
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: scratched and by a werewolf, and you survive, you turn
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: into a werewolf. So I'm like, okay, well what happens
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: if you get because obviously if these people, these dog
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: soldiers that are that have turned and they don't turn,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: gone to the dark side, so to speak, and they
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: don't come back, they don't they don't change back into
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: human form. They're they're constantly beasts. Maybe that's some of
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: the things that like when people see demonic and things
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: like that, maybe that's what you're kind of seeing. What
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: happens if somebody gets attacked by one of them and
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: they survive. So that's where I that's where I made
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: the Okay, that is where werewolf came from. That's somebody
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: who can you know they didn't go through a ceremony
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: and choose. Hey, I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: follow this lifestyle. There was just attacked, so they were
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: able to It doesn't matter. They can still shift back
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: and forth between human and wolf. But they still have
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: a choice to make. And that's why I'm based the
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: on the Cherokee problem or of the good wolf and
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: the evil wolf, you know, the old Cherokee grandfather's telling
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: the story to his son or yeah, so which which
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: wolf survives? Grandfather? The one you feed? So you know,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: everybody's got that choice they got to make, no matter
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: what it is that you know, whether it's are you
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: gonna choose to be a good were wolf or bad
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: were wolf? Are you gonna choose to be a good
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: person or a bad person. Everybody's got to make that choice.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: And it's the choices you make is what feeds what
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be. And you know it's easy to you know,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: the bad choices are gonna come to you really easy.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't you don't have to go looking
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: for the bad stuff. You got to go looking for
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: the good stuff. And that's why I kind of wanted
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: to go with that, was, you know, it's easy to
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: make those bad choices, easy to say Oh I like
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: that power, that power seductive. I want to go this way,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: but it's harder. The good wolf is not going to
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: come up to you. You've got to pursue him, and
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: you got to make sure he understands that you're wanting
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: to make that the free will choice. So I just
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I put a lot of different spins on it, just
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: you know, because I wanted I wanted a different take
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: on where I wanted to be a straight up werewolf,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: not a cryptid. There's cryptids in the book, obviously, but
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I wanted I wanted the main thing to be just
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: straight up werewolf. But I wanted it to be the
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: kind of werewolf that I've always wanted to see, because
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: were wolves have always gotten a bad, bad rap in
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: in the movies in Hollywood and things like that, and
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: there's never everybody loves vampires. Vampires always get the best movies.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Were wolves never get to get what they deserve. And
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I wanted to write the kind of werewolf book that
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I wanted to read.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I can. I can promise you I
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: haven't been contacted by people who may be in the
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: chat right now, I'm saying that were wolves do watch
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: my show and there may be a couple in the
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: chat right now. Actually, people who do turn watch my shows,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: So shout out to all my werewolf buddies. I know
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: who y'all are I see in here? Okay, and uh
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: and I and I one hundred percent believe it. Okay,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I totally believe it. And and I think it's I
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: think it's pretty cool actually because were wolves are people too, okay,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and uh so are I.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Mean you're.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you were going to give that away tonight,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: but it is on the thumbnail shadow walkers are were wolves, right,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: And I didn't know if we were going to actually
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: make that total connection tonight because it's in your book
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: shadow Walkers are were wolves?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Yeah, Like I said, I don't I don't
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: know if what I am talking about in the book
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: is exactly what the same. This is what I want
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: when I when I came up with that title, my
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: daughter and I were talking and she's like, you know
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: you're making a series of this. You need you need,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: you need something else, And she's like, you need to
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: try And I know this is not a this is
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: not a tribe. This is more of what they are
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: type thing and not not so much. What they are
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: is okay, they're a were wolves. But there's a scene
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: towards the end, or not towards the end, I guess
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: it's towards the middle where somebody describes what he's looking at,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: but it's he says, almost like a cloud of ink
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: floating there. So to me, the shadow walkers the shadow
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: me are. I first got that idea part of it
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: from Uh. I can't take full credit of it. Chris
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Fox who wrote There's no such thing as wear wolves
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: h His thing is that, you know, the males and
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: the females. The isis is the one that made wear wolves,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: and she split them up. Males can do the whole
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: different set. They have a whole different set of powers
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: than the females. The females could hide in the shat
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: pull the shadow around them. My thing is, I think
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: anywhere wolves would be able to do that. So, especially
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: one that has gone to the dark side and is
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: completely and totally evil, he would be able to almost
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: completely disappear other than the red eyes, and he was
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: able to pull the shadows in, and he's able to
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: That's how he's able to move around, so and you know,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: get to ambush on or get to jump on people
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: and ambush people. So to me, that's that's what the
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: shadow Walkers are are the completely totally evil werewolves who
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: have gone to the dark side, who do not want,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: do not care, and just there's an entity in the book.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've got that part of it
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: or not yet, but there's there's two entities in the book.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: But there's an mpity in the book. And he's just
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: like the angel and the devil sitting on his shoulder
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: the old Little cartoon. There's a lot of that, uh,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: so to speak, you know, not specifically an angel and
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: the devil, but that whole dichotomy.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Right, the symbolism of it.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole the symbolism of that.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well I love I love that we're talking about
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: were wolves and uh and dog men. Scott has a
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: question in the audience tonight. He said, do dog men
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: gibber talk like bigfoot? Some people call it samurai talk,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: some people they just they just kind of do a
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: little gibber drabber. Now, I've heard it before, and uh,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: we you know, we had I had a guest on Wednesday,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: My buddy Mike was on the show and he said that.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: He was telling us about his encounter with two dog
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: men in New York and he said they were completely silent,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: completely silent, he said, even as they were he said, well,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: maybe it was just because he was just so kind
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: of traumatized a little bit. He was a little terrified
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: of what was going on, and he just didn't hear it. Okay,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: And there's that thing, you know, Robbie, I know you
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: you've experienced. I've experienced it. I don't know about you,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: but I have where something wild's happening and it's like
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: your ears just start ringing, and it's just like you sense,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: you lose your senses kind of you're trying to like
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: understand what's happening and is that fighter for that kind
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: of thing?
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Right? So you told you lost in the moment of
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: what's going on. And then we've talked about this before
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: because people love to say why didn't you take pictures?
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Why didn't you do this? Why do you do that?
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: So you've been in a situation like that or something
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: like that's going on, and it's like you said, a
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: fight or flight. You know, DA had his phone in
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: his hand when he saw the dog man and it
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: never occurred to him to do this, because you're not
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: thinking about stuff like that in that situation. You know,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: when we've when we were in Comb's Ferry and had
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: our think two years ago or last year rather, and
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: we were getting rocks and stuff thrown at this stuff.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I had camera around my neck, but the last thing
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about was pulling a camera off, was
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: starting snapping pictures because we didn't know what was going
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: to happen in the next two minutes. Because we were
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: sitting there, three of us were sitting there waiting on
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: the bus get back on the bus, waiting on the
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: boat to get back. We had our backs to the
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: water with our boot heels touching the edge of the water.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: We didn't know, We didn't know if we were gonna
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: be around in the next five minutes, much less start
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: think about taking pictures or recording or any of that
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Until you've been in a situation like that,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: it's hard to think about. You know, you've been in
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: those situations a lot of times, that's the last thing
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: on your mind is oh, let me get my camera out,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: or oh, it's not.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Even my radar. And plus, if you were to get okay,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: so I always say I don't live in fear, you know,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: I try not to ever live in fear. But that
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean my hands aren't gonna shake, Okay, stuff like
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: you're not thinking about it. You just don't think about it.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: And so that's why my thing, Well, people that watch
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: my channels, they know I'm not about, you know, having
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: to have like presenting evidence everybody. I didn't do this
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: because I'm here to prove something to anybody. Okay, I'm
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: just not in it to do that. Now, I will
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: bring people on my shows that have a lot of
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: evidence and stuff, and we'll show it. If I see it,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I'll show it on the show. If I don't see it,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: we don't show the evidence. Okay, Like you no know
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: what I mean by that. I don't don't. I'm not
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: real big into those red circles and stuff. Okay, so
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: but I will show I won't show some stuff if
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I If I see it, I'll show it. Okay. But
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: but when you are out there and you're having the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I'm all about the experience of it. Hey, the experience.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: The less technology that I take out there, the more
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: experience that I have, the more encounters that I have
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: that's just been me personally. Everybody's different, Okay, everybody's different,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: everybody's got a different style of research and stuff. But
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: mine is I just I go out there, just experience everything.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: The last thing I'm gonna do is take a picture.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Now if I have on a GoPro or something that's different, okay,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: if you put it, I'm about to start carrying my
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: go pro. I think I'm gonna start doing some experiments
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm putting my GoPro on and see what we
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: can catch.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and that's honestly, that's probably the best way
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: to do, is go out with something like a go
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: bro where you can just turn it on and forget
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: about it. Because we went down to the Blunt Road
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: and we're sitting there and we go down and that's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: the place where we went to a couple of years
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: ago where we found the mutilated deer carcasses. So we
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: go down there and we go to turn around and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: we look out in the creek or out in the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: creek out the James River, and there's something I where
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Doc could turn and the headlights hit it. There's something
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: that's out there in the I mean, it's coming against
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: the current current's flowing this way, and it's coming towards us.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: The current's flowing away from us, and it's sticking up
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: about four and a half five feet out of the water.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: And DA said, is if his memory was one hundred
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: percent correct, that was about seven feet deep right there
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: where that area is. So you do the math on that.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Somebody's like, why didn't you get up and take pictures
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: of it? I'm like, that was the last thing on
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I got out and I started walking towards
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: it because you know who, you know me, I'm stupid,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: But I still even doing that, I wouldn't thinking anything
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: about video. And all I had I was thinking about
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: was getting my flashlight on it so I could see
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: if I can see something shine, which I did.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: But I wasn't out there to prove or disprove anything.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: I was out there with my brothers trying to have
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: some experiences, just like when you and I were out there.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: It's all we were out there doing was having experience.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: We wasn't out there to prove or disprove anything to anybody.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: I don't need to prove it to myself. You don't
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: need to prove it to yourself. We know what we know,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm not out there to get my fifteen minutes
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: of fame by catching anything on video or anything. I mean, yeah,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: if I find a good print and I've got the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: stuff with me, which I nine to nive percent of
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the time I do, I'm gonna make a cast of it.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: But more than likely I'm gonna make that cast for
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: myself so I can keep it and say look what
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: I got. I did this myself, you know. Oh yeah,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not in this to prove or disprove or anything.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: I'm in this because I enjoy it.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Me too, Me too.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: You sent me a picture of a track one day
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: and it was a big It was like a wolf
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: print or something that was over near your school where
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: you were working, right, Yep, what whatever came of that?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: That was a big print. I don't work at that
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: department anymore. I'm at a different department now, But that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: was I actually found a bigger one behind my dad's
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: house and my dad's house, my real dad. It's not
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: far from where that how was recorded, because Johnny and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: I actually went up there and stayed about two and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: a half three hours I think, out there. One night.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Said if we could hear anything, but uh that that
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: print was five and a half inches long, And I asked, uh,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I asked Ken Gartart. I was talking to him at
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: a show and I asked myself, Ken, what's the biggest
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: wolf print you've ever found in a while. He said
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: about four or four and a half inches. And I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: showed him the picture of that one, and I had
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: the knife with me, so you know, I could obviously
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a ruler in that, but I laid
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: the knife down in my hand and showed him the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: picture and showed him the knife there, and he was like,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: that's a big problem. I see. He said, I've never
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: seen one that big in the in the wild. So wow.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you guys are notoriously known in the area
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: where you live, for like I said, the Anderson werewolf,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: and these things travel pretty far. And I don't think
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: there was just one were wolf. I think it was
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: a bunch of them, and honestly there's probably there's probably
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: dog men, though I don't know because it never actually
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: hurt anybody. It was just going after the farm animals,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: all the livestock. Bunch of the livestock was you know,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: getting slaughtered. And I don't think it was actually eating
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: the livestock. It was pretty much just tearing it apart,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: if I if I remember correctly.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's uh. You know Doc talked about that
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: that one in Meeker, Colorado. That's the same. There was
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: a bunch of livestock that got mutilated up there and
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: they actually tested and it was unknown canine DNA. Tell
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: me what's unknown canine in this day and age?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Well, actually, I believe with some of those reports that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: have been taken of people who've been unalived, as we
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: say on YouTube, by packs of wild hogs and stuff. Uh,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: it seems like some of those reports talk about unknown
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: animal DNA. Right, it's unknown.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: The fed Ex driver.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Missouri.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they say unknown case. There's in this day
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: and age, there should be no unknown canine DNA. And
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: that case is still open even though they say the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: dogs did it. That case is still open, So it
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: can't be for you, m I think you and I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: have talked about that before. Yeah, and that's that's the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: only reason that I can see in my estimation that
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: that case be kept open. And you know Roddy's in
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: the chat to hell, he'll back me up on this.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: If the case is still open. It's not you're you're
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: not eligible to go in and and for you because
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: they've never released the toxicology on the dogs that are
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: in the crops or any of that stuff. They had
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: to go inside the house and shoot the dogs because
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the dogs weren't outside when they got there, So the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: dogs let themselves out and then let themselves back in.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that just sounds like a cover up to me.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: And they Yeah, and the and the sheriff and the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: UH corner both said that they'd never seen bodies tour
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: or body tore up that bad in their entire career.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they still hadn't case open even though the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: dogs did it. Yeah, too many questions, not enough answers.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I know, you know, I remember d A d A
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: came on my show. He and I talked about.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: That we've gone We've gonna show. We've done several shows
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: on that one.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's a weird one, you know. And
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's good that we got, you know, there,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: we got some people looking into them and stuff. And
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: that's why I really enjoy getting those remote viewing targets too.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: When it comes to some of these unspecified animal attacks. Uh,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of those unspecified animal attacks though
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: that I've been tasked with for targets ended up being
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: large cats. I think, and and and I think that's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: what it's interesting because I think that these large cats
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: are going to come down from the trees. They're going
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: to attack, much like a dog man would or vice versa.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: I think, well, you know, you and I talked about
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: that one in North Carolina. Well, the woman was was attacked, Yeah,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: was attacked.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: What par North John was that h I can't remember exactly.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Somebody in the channel knew the Brenda Hamilton case though,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: that was that was tragic, tragic. The lady had gotten up.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: She used to she would walk her It seems like
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: she had dog.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: She should walk her dogs.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: She would walk her dogs at like five in the morning.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was what I say. It's like four or
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: five in the morning. Because yeah, that was one of
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: the times we talked about that, one of the times
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: I was on your show.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: M H. She would walk her dogs at four or
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: five in the morning, and she ended up in a
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: ditch with water. It was like really high up and
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: and there weren't any tracks. Now, it's suspicious to me
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: because you know tracking, I know tracking, and if there's
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: any kind of suspicious activity, if somebody gets unlived or
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: whatever happened to her happened. First thing I would do
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: if I was a police and you're a police officer, like,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: don't you wouldn't they call people into like cording off
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: the crime scene. Is that your college? And then and
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: then bring people into investigate it and footprints.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're taping off and put crime scene tape up.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: And you know you're taught. That was one of the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: first things that I was taught in. Rodney can tell
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: you too, because he was an investigator for my chief.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: You know, you look at the area and you say, okay,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: this my crime scenes one hundred you know, one hundred
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: square yards. Let's say just then you you double that
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: because you want to you want to encompass as much
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: room as you can to any kind of evidence, trace
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: evidence that might be scattered past for so you you
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: figure out how far you're how big your crime scene is,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: and you roughly double that is what you tape off. Ooh.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: That's why I love having law enforcement people on my show,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: so you guys can talk about these things with a
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: lot of knowledge.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: On it.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: And so in her case, it seemed as though there
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: weren't a whole lot. They said, there weren't a lot
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: of prints around. And so to me when I reviewed that,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I was seeing something in a tree like a big
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: black like a black panther. Actually it came down. I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: kept getting on this motion from like something up high
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: that jumped down and uh. And I also I was
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I remember getting like data that it was is like collar,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: it had a chip in it, or something had something
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: that was somebody's pet. It was either somebody spoke here's
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: the thing with the Britta Hamilton case. And this is
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: just from my data. I think it was either somebody's
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: pet that got loose, like an exotic petor or maybe
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: it could have been a dog win. I don't know.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it was a dog win though,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, something came down from a tree. And Robbie,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: we hear about that a lot when it comes to
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: dogman attacks.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Well, and you talked about the 'LBL earlier. A lot
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: of the victims have been there. Their remains been found
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: up in a tree. The two bicyclists, one of their
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: bikes was found wrapped around a tree about ten and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: a half twelve feet up from the ground. The little
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: girl her remains were found up in a tree. I mean,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know too many BlackBerry to climb trees the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: bicycle in their in their mouth and then wrapped the
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: bicycle around a tree. Oh yeah, I am sing that happened,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe, but I ain't never seen that.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you guys found a deer carcass right like
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: up in a tree.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. We in Comb's Ferry the first time
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: we went out there. We actually this last time we
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: went out there, we found a small patch of it
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: about that big hung up in the uh in another
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: tree in another same area, but you know, a different, different,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: different tree obviously, But yeah, the we uh We've had
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of people say, oh, well that was a
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: that was a mountain mine. But the tree was that
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: big around, and the two limbs were on the op
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: were on the opposite sides of the tree, and it
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: was about seven and a half to eight feet off
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: the ground, and it was hung around two limbs that
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: were on like I said, on the opposite sides of
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: the tree. Number one, there's not a big cat that's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: gonna climb up a tree that small number two. There
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: was no tracks anywhere around the tree. There were A
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: bear would have been tall enough to do it. But
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: the thing is, I was a bear. If a bear
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: had a had the had the hide in its mouth,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: there's no with a hide hanging down this way, there's
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: no way he was going to get that. Get it
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: around two limbs on the opposite sides of the you
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: know trees here, limb here, limb here, and it's wrapped
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: around those two limbs that that carcass was put there.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: My step bad said, he said, there's only two things
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: in my mind that could have done that. A man
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: or a bigfoot. And I said, or dog went there's three.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or diamond or a tornado. I mean, and lit'sten.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: But if there had been like a tornado or something.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: But I mean, but now here's the thing about that. Yeah,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: you're right, that could have happened. But it was ninety
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: something degrees that that time. Blood was still red on
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: tree and on the ground. Doc. Yeah, Doc and Steve
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: were both you know, in the medical field. Doc said,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: for that blood to still be red, it had at
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: that heat that it that it was with all the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: bugs that were around, no one. There was no there
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: was no maggots, there was no flies, no nothing that
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: was around it. So he said that that that would
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: have to have been done within the past two to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: two and a half hours, and we were out there
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: then there weren't no tornadoes.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just put it out there coming from a
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: research stance. Okay, but yeah, that's wild. There's there was
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: something because righty for it happened. You sent me some pictures.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: It was like that same night.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: And then on the other side of the trail, about
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: three or four yards away, we find the Missouri tree trout.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: The tree trout, that's right, wasn't it like ahead of
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: a fish or something?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Fish heads a tree with the eyeballs removed.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Oh weird too. It was like something put it there
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: for to save it for later. It was making a
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: fish tricky.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I think that they were both uh, territorial markers because
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: we it didn't start getting things didn't start getting agressive
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: to after we passed that point. Once we passed those two,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: that's when rocks started getting tossed around. When we were
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: waiting on the boat to get back there. You know,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: they've taken them out two at a time, and there
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: was gonna have to be one of us. At that point,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: we thought one of us was going to have to
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: be on the ground by ourselves, and me and Da
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: were having an argument about who was going to who
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: the last one was gonna be. And I'm like, now
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not going back and facing a net if something
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: happens to you, I said, you go you and know
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: a goo? I wait and He's like, oh no. Noah
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: was like Dan, I'm not leaving either one of you here.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: And all three of us were arguing. So when why
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Richard come back with a boat? D just said, hey,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: you do you think all three of us can fit?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Because that put four of us in it that we
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: wouldn't small people. Let's put it that way. That boat struggled.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: But that's when we backed out, back back, back out
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: of the channel. Rich you shine the little spotlight on it,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: and you can see eye shine all along the tree line.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Oh God, have the right sets of eyes.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Something was watching it all for sure, Brandon, this is
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: a great question. Can I do a show on minotaurs?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I have Joel Thomas coming on. We're going to be
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: talking about that when he comes on. We had to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: reschedule about a week ago and we were planning on
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: talking about that. So we're going to get him rescheduled.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: We'll have a show very soon where we're going to
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: be talking about human animal cameras pretty much throughout history
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: and stuff too. And uh yeah, that comes up in
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: my remote viewing data occasionally, like horse headed humans and
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: you know, bull humans and stuff like that. I know
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: it's a little weird and wacky, but yes, we will
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: be doing a show on that, I promise, uh for sure.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I mean it sounds like you guys
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: had a pretty interesting trip out there, and uh lots
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: of lots of weird anomalous stuff, you know, animal carcasses
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: and animal parts up in the trees. I mean, it
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: could be a person's worst nightmare going out there. But
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: of course that's what you guys were out there to find,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, to look for and uh and you found it.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a great place to go crypted hunting.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there's the reason DA puts that that
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: area in the books all the time.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Is that the same place with the table rock link?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's on table that's table link.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's where you guys had where he had the
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: dog man encounter with that video.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Yep, when you uh you remote viewed, Yeah, same lake,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: but uh where you did the remote view was Joe Ball,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: which is about ten miles across the lake from where
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Combs Ferry is. So that's Joe Ball was was the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: first big area. Come. He didn't put Combs Ferry in
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: a book till after we did our little outing the
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: first time Joe Ball was the one was in the
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: lake view Man first. But same lake. But like I said,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: it was just a different area. Joe Ball is an area.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: It was a camp site and it was shut down
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: in the eighties by the Army Corps of Engineers. I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: don't know why. It was a primitive camp.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: They were always shutting stuff down. That's they bring them
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: in as an excuse to have imminent domain over stuff.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I swear I've seen it happen with our family and
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave it at that. With some of
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: our property that we had, the family is trying to sell. Okay,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: they do. I'm telling you they do it property property grabs. Okay,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: go ahead. Sorry, obviously my chap, my hide was chapped
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: from them.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, but that's the area he had. You remote you
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: the first time was Joe Ball. That's when we found
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: the power boxes. That time when I was out here,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: when we found the track and we're gonna come back
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: the next day and uh cast it and the truck
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: mysteriously drove through it. I have to live and we
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: had the twenty four hour service truck that just had
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: twenty four hour service on it didn't have And there's
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: nothing in that area that's that's just basically just a
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: parking area now.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: But Robbie, I just thought of something I had Eric
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: for Media Palace. He's got a YouTube channel. He does
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of four Yer requests for any kind of
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: cryptid encounters with our national parks, anything that's like government related.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: He sends in four yer requests and he gets some
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: of it back. A lot of it's redacted or either
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: they just ignore him or they don't send stuff. And
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: he was telling me, what is that the beast of
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: he's out of link near Austin, Texas. I can't remember
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: the name of the beast out there, but there's a
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: river out there.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: In Lake Oh. This was not the lake.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: This was not Lake Worth, Nope, Nope, this is somewhere different.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: It's the I can't remember the name of it. Okay,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: somebody in the chat might know, but it's and Eric
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: might even be in here tonight, who knows. But it
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: was there's a river out there, and it's the beast
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: of whatever that river is. Okay. And uh, he said
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: that there were some people that had had some encounters.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was him or what, but
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: they went out there. There were some prints and then
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: like somebody had come in there and driven in donuts
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: for something out there. I don't remember. It sounds very
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: similar to what you're talking about. Well, Brushy Creek maybe
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Brushy Creek, thank you, Walter, the Beast of Brushy Creek,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: that's right, Walter is the man. I appreciate you, Yes
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: I have. I'm getting what is that called a brain
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: fart or I can't remember stuff all the time. I'm
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: getting old Robbie. I'm trying. I'm trying my best that
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: all the time. I know, right, the Beasts of Brushy Creek. Yeah,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: and uh, there was some there was something similar to
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: that is what he was telling me.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: It seems like there had been some tracks out there
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: and then somebody came and just like you know, mess
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: also people are out there doing donuts and it meant
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: it pissed off the the beast okay too. So a
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of activity out there though, the
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: beast of Texas, that's right, uh man, Yeah, I mean
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: we've we've there's no shortage of beasts okay out there
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: for us to go to go hunting and stuff and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: h And when I say hunting, I don't mean we're
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: out there to hurt them, y'all. Okay, I know it's
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: all about the language, right. Maybe we investigate them, we
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: don't hunt them down. We don't hunt them. They hunt
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: us though for sure for the most part, we're not
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: out there to hurt them. But uh but yeah, that
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: that whole dog man. So so for people who are
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: not familiar with that. Joe Bald, Okay, I did a
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: remote viewing target for DA. I came on y'all show
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: a couple year years ago. It's spent a long time
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: and we went over the data and I was telling you, guys,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: you know there's there's an underground facility there. That's where
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I started. That's when I started learning about the secret
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: space program. For people who are familiar with with all
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: my work that I do, with remote viewing. I bring
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Secret Space Program survivors onto my shows and I'm giving
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: these blind targets. Well, I had never even really knew
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: anything about the Secret Space Program and that was in
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: the data. That's where I got involved in the SSP
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: stuff was through that target that you're talking about at
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Joe Bald Recreation Area. What part of Missouri is that
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: in Robbie, just up.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: From Galena, because Blunt Road is in Galena, and DA
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: lived in Springfield. So it's just I think it takes
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: us about twenty twenty thirty minutes to get the Joe
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: ball from his house. So and then you keep on
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: going another way to go to uh Blunk Road, which
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: is right just right outside of Galina. So it's in
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: that it's in the you know, Springfield, Galina. That that area.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Well, in that data I kept getting I picked up
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: that there was a Secret Space Program hub. Okay, like
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: whatever was going on there. There was like a laboratory
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: down there. There's like all sorts of underground tunnels and
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: a facility of some sort of there. And I was like,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: y'all gott to look for some kind of door. You know,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be something out of place. You guys went
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: back and you actually found some air ducts in the
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, right.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: We found power boxes. Oh, big big green power boxes
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: that are with the three phase cables coming out of it.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: That's what That's what we found.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: So would you say that that backs up the data
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: that said that there's some kind of facility underground potentially?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Could it?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: It was a primitive camp site for a camping area
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: that there was no power. Every DA said there was
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: never power in it at all because there was no
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: there was no you know, shower, shower rooms or we're
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: calling bath houses or whatever and none of that. It
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: was one of those where you pull up and you
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: had the little hook, the metal pole with a hook
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: that you hang your lantern on for light. And yeah,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: it's actually in us, but Joe Ball is actually in
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: Stone County. I couldn't think of the name of the county,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: but Stone County because that's he changed the name in
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: the book to Sloan County just so it was but
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: it's Stone County. But anyway, there was nothing in there.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: The only thing that possibly could have had power to
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: it was the guard track, which is right next to
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: the entrance where we found the boxes in the middle
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: of the one of the drive. There is good ways
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: away from that. So what the power box is doing there?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Cause at first we were like, okay, well maybe somebody
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: just brought it into here. As me and no one
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: were looking around, we saw the and I'm talking cables
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: that were that big around that were went straight down
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: into the ground. And they were big, those big three
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: phase cables.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Oh whoa, yeah, that's just wild. I mean I do
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: I go camping at primitive camp sites sometimes and uh,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: and there is no power at all out there. I mean,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: if you want to not even no street lamps, no nothing, okay,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: nothing even in the toilets and stuff. There's no lights
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: in there. And yeah, those toilets are scary, by the way,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of those toilets that those primitive sites. Watch
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: out now, Okay, don't put your tent too close, especially
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: in the summertime, because it's gonna stink. Okay, just a
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: little a little pro tip, y'all, stay try to stay
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: away from them.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: But and this is the what is so weird about
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: it is you could go in, like if if they
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: wanted to, they could go into Joe Ball, hire a crew,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: go in there. Trim things down, clean it up, replace
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: a table or two, and it would be perfectly fine
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: to camp in, not a problem, just my little minor
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: things to go over to Conn's ferry. It's like an
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: apocalyptic wasteland tables bit. There's a white has got a
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: picture of me just because we didn't get a good
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: picture of the table last time and it was dark.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: So this last time we went over, why it took
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: a picture of me standing on the table, so there
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: was some scale. Just because that table top was that thick,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: and I could have laid down on it and still
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: had had a foot and a half a room on
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: either side of my head or my feet. That's how
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: big and thick was solid time Conte and still had
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: rebarred all that stuff inside of it. And it's fifteen
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: to twenty yards away from the rest of the table.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Now this is all. You can't get vehicles back in here.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: It's a peninsula, but you can't get a vehicle back
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: in there because they put these big rock uh and
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: I'm talking any boulders that are like you'd have to
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: have a rocker to get over them. You couldn't take
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: an ATV, so it will took heavy equipment to move
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: that that tabletop and put it in the middle of
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: that roadway.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: They do that. That's what d n R does a
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: lot of these places where even where I go bigfooting, Uh,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: they'll put berms up and stuff and they'll say, well, well,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: they'll say that there's like a they're going to do
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: a control burn, and we keep up, you know, my
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: team keeps up with like when they're doing stuff and
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: they're in the now, and I don't know, sometimes it
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: just it just gets to be a little suspicious at times,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Because we know that they are
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: blocking off those main roads and locking those gates where
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: all the bigfoots are. So I don't know. Uh, there's
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: just certain times of years too, you know, we we
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: don't even go up there because we know the gates
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: are all going to be locked, there's going to be
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: berms in the road, and everything's gonna be everything's gonna
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: be blocked off, blocked off. So but that is very suspicious.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: And you said that it's an abandoned campground.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: Both of them are all abandon right, Yeah. Uh. Joe
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Ball is one that the Army Corps of Engineers shut
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: down in the eighties, and I don't remember what when
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Dya said they shut down Colmb's ferry, but it's it's
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: kind of the same way. But like I said, it
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: looks like in a post apocalyptic wasteland. It just looks
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: like what you would see in like some of these
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: video games were you know, at years after humanity has
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: left things alone. That's just what it looks like in there.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: It's just it's it's hard to explain if you hadn't
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: seen it, and it's just.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: I gotta say something. I gotta tay something to you.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Uh So, Montalk is strangers in here. This is Brian Minnick. Y'all.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: Brian's been on the show several times. What's up, Brian? Uh?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: He and I spent some time together up at montaut,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: New York, at Camp Hero where they have it's right
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: here on the very tippy top of Long Island, New York.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: And I was there about it almost a year and
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: a half ago. I guess with Brian, and Brian is
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: the resident expert on Montalk and all things well, first
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: of all, all things strange, okay, but this is where
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: they did the Montalk project and what they based Stranger
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Things off of. Okay, and they have that radar tower
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: that's pretty infamous. Everybody knows about. Brian knows this place
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: like the back of his hand, all the barracks, all
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: that stuff. It's a creepy, creepy place, Robbie, super creepy place.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: And he said, he said, hardened generators. If anybody knows
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: abandoned places, this guy knows abandoned places and what all
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: the parts mean, and what all the generators are in
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: any kind of boxes and anything that's out of place,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: he knows what it is. Okay, So thank you for
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: being here, Brian. I'm excited that you're here because we're
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: actually talking about this. He took me on a tour,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: so Brian was like my tour guide, basically our whole
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: everybody was with us, our tour guide on places to
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: go in Camp Hero up there. And uh, and that's
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: kind of I don't want to say, I don't know
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: if it's an abandoned facility. I mean, it kind of
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: is an abandoned facility, and they may still be doing
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: some kind of work there that we don't know what's
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: going on underground. Okay, no matter if it's if it's
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: abandoned on the top where we can see it. There
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: could still be stuff going down, you know, underground for sure,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the case of Joe Bald.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: This thing was upended and the wires were cut at
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: the bottom of it, so out. Yeah, that's how we
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: can see the wires because they were they were cut
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: from so it was up ended. Now I say cut,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, but it was the one that we found
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: was not was not attached, and it wasn't attached anymore.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: Put that way. But the wires went straight down into
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: the ground. I don't know if they I don't know
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: if they were coming from a power source, orf they
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: were going down to something. I don't know because they.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, do you think this is just your your thought
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: on it, and this is my thought. Do you think
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: that they would get wind? Catch wind? Is how you
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: say it, catch wind? That that people are curious about
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: that area. I mean, y'all have a pretty popular podcast
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and DA has been writing about this place
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: for a while, and I would assume that it's probably
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: gotten some attention, brought some people out there. Maybe we've
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: talked about it plenty of times. People that watch my
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: show might have gone out there to table Rock Lake
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: and UH and look for this. Do you think maybe
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: there's an element of them because we know there's the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: cover up is deep. Okay, the cover ups are deep,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: and there's no links that they will they I say,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: they won't go to cover this up cover up if
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: there are dog men out there and there are cryptids
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: out there, and I believe there are well reviewing of it.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: And all you gotta do is go back and watch
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: that video, the Joe Ball Breakdown video, and watch what
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: they've pulled off that video if you want, if you
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: want the want the hairs on the back of your
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: neck stand up, go to DA's UH YouTube page and
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: go to videos and go to Joe Ball Breakdown video.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: This that's the video that got Jessica to do the
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: remote viewing that that she's talking about, because there's no doubt.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is filming on a cell phone, so
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: it's not like there's any kind of who doing And
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: how long ago? Is it just five six years ago?
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: It's been a long time. Actually, I did that remote
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: viewing target right after I met d A. I had
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: don't even met met you for the first time on
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: that show, so.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: It's probably been.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: I've had my channel for I'm going to say, I mean,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: I haven't had my channel for that long. Okay, so
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: four years max.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: It's been a minute. Let's put it that way. It's
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: been a minute when I opened my channel. AI was
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: not prevalent at the time. I mean, I'm sure there
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: was people for money who had it, but d A
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: and Steve, Steve on his cell phone filming it did
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: not have any kind of because it took them a
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: little bit to get what they got out of it,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: just because it was such a grainy cell phone video.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: But you can see, you've seen the video of Jessica,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: you can see the thing moving and when when they
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: zoom in, you can clear less. I mean, it looks
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: like what's hanging above my head here on Jessica's background. Ye,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: that's that's pretty much what it looks like, only super sized.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: In a hand. Yeah, you can see a hand with
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: claws with a head. It's like doing this and.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: You can see it move clear. I mean, there is
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: no doubt about the movement. And that's the exact area
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: where we took off this last time we took off
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: up we heard something and off up in the woods.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: We went, Oh my gosh, Yeah, I mean, it sounds
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: like a great place to go and investigate. Of course,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: my data said that whatever that was was a watcher
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: and it was guarding a facility right there, so there
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: was I told y'all, go look for go, look for
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: whatever you can find. There's something that's probably hidden camouflage
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: that leads down into some area below ground. And sure enough,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: that's when y'all found those those power boxes and stuff
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: out there. So I don't know, I mean, we got
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: to keep on looking. But like I said, if people
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: are going out there and examining things, and you guys
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: are out there looking for it, there's no there's no boundaries,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: there's no extent. They would not go to okay to
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: keep it covered up. And uh, of course they put
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: those those boulders are not stopping, y'all. Right, the boulders
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: they put out there, the burms they hadn't stop, y'all. Y'all,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: y'all went around them and gotten a boat, right, you
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: got a boat and.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: Came around the boat. Because that's a peninsula. So I
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: don't think that there's any I don't think they're putting
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: bases out there. I think that's just uh, I think
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: it's just an area that they end up gravitating too.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: And honestly, I think I don't think that it's a
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: lot of bigfoot in the Joe Bald. I think that's
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: strictly dog man because it's a different feeling in Joe
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: Bald than it is in Comb's Ferry.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well they're all. There's probably all different. And
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: I just want to say, happy birthday, y'all. Give it a
• 1:34:30
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• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: good friend Drew Ski right here. It was his birthday,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: and the sneak thank you Drewski for being here a
• 1:34:38
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• 1:34:40
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• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: Eric's he can he can correct me if I'm wrong
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: with this, But there I think it's like one hundred
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: and seventeen square miles of shoreline. Table Rock Lake has
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: it's big, Eric, correct, But it's it's huge.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: That's way bigger than I thought would be.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's and very very deep. So it's there's
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: because he was talking about Big Bay earlier that's in
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: the same area. Uh they he said they closed it
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: down two thousands, So there's a lot. I mean that
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: that's it's a beautiful area. Beautiful area, and I would
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: assume that land is not wouldn't be cheap, ye, So
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: it makes you.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Wonder, like why why are they not utilizing that land
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: right there? If they could develop it or just do
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: something with it, They've just got it sitting there for
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: no reason.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: Well, from from my understanding, and like I said, Eric,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, there have been plenty of
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: people that's tried to go in there and Army Corps
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: of engineers will not release it.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sovereign, sovereign. Cosmic wild Man has a good point.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: They make it look abandoned in a lot of areas.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: It's a front. It is, it is. I believe that too.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: I believe that is a possibility for sure. Uh, they've
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: got all sorts of tricks up their sleeves. Okay, keep
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: us out of places, and you know what it may
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: be for our own good too, because if they've got
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: all this dangerous stuff that has secret doorways and latched
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: you know doors and stuff. You know, people talk about
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: hearing those metal those metal clings in the woods, like
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: at the LBL the it sounds like a big metal
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: dumpster is being dropped on the ground. I think that
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: might be doors opening up and letting the cryptids in
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: and out of some place.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe house in the house. Yeah, he, DA's not turning
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: me into a renaissance man. House. You know better than that.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: I'm just no, he'llbilly just like you. What that There
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: must be a comf yeah, Greg, house of das turning
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: me into a renaissance.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, Greg, renaissance man. I guess because you're.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: Author now, Greg, I'm just proud that you've spelled renaissance man. Correct.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: I am proud of you. You're so silly, I'll get
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: I'll get five messages here in a minute about that.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, thank you for being here. Greg. Look, Robbie,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: Robbie is top notch. He is a learned man. Okay,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: he is skilled, especially when it comes right now. And
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: I love it that you and I have been out
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: in the field together. You know it's Drewski that's in
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: the chat. Drewski is who I went on the dog
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Man Hunt with out in Alabama, and we've done the
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: skin Walker Cave investigation together and h so I've I've
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: done quite a bit of boots on the ground with him.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm out in the field. We even went up to
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: North Georgia at some point. We've we've had some adventures, man,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: we have, and we've got we've got some more plan too.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering when you're coming back out with me,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: coming back to you come up to Georgia b Foot conference.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: I might see what was going on. I got to
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: get down to Alabama. Will Greg get down to the
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: man Cave and say something, because he got a lot
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: of stuff going on down there.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: Dang, yeah, just don't go to the train station with me.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: I remember that, Robbie. Do you remember when I kept
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: getting that wrong? I said that one time you had
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: said that and I said something I said it wrong.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember you saying, Robert, I remember what you
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: said because I didn't.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch Yellowstone. That was not my show. I
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: never watched it, hardly White. I actually know one of
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: the guys that sang, Okay, this is weird, this is wild, right.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of random people. One of the
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: guys from UH was part of the soundtrack to that show.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: He and I used to send each other vintage goods
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: back and forth to each other. Shout out to bad
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: Wolf what's up? But anyways, Wow, that's a good show.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I will not listen. I know what the
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: train station means. Now, Eric, thank you for being here.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: Eric.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, Eric, Eric comes on the show
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: quite a bit too. But but yeah, we're we're gonna
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: have to keep looking into Joe Bald and stuffs. Has
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: da been out there lately? I mean, I know he
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: wouldn't he goes when you guys come up there, right.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I want to say him and Noah
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: went back down there not long ago, not long after
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: me and Doc left. But uh yeah, we went down
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: there a couple of times. The last time when me
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: and doct were both there, and it kind of stuck
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: the first time because it started raining on us and
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: it was cold the entire week, and then the day
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: the day Doc and I leave, it's sixty degrees and Sonny.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it took three tries. It must have
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: been just spelling renaissance.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: Right, third times charm brother, third time for charm.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's too funny. Oh man, hey, Mike Jones,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: what's up, Mike Jones? That's my cousin right there, right Mike.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do you, what do you think about portals?
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: I know you guys are like flesh and own camp.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: You' all have always been fleshing bone camp. Wait a second,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: here's my question. Are you still fleshing bone camp, Robbie?
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: You are?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: And okay, And my thing is, if if they could
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: do that, even if one percent of them were at
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: which we know more more than that attack people. But
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: even if it's even one percent and they could do that,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: they'd be portling into our houses and drinking inside of.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: The Oh some people say they do get bigfoots portling
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: in their house. Wait, I think I'm not going to
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: go there.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: I think that would be hard for the government to keep.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: We actually believe.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: At a conference you and I together, we heard somebody
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: talking about bigfoots having a party under their house and stuff.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: But we won't go there.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: With that eating their potato salad refrigerator.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: And very yes, and I'm not discounting anyone's stories at all,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: but even but some of them, even me or a
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: little bit Okay, yeah, okay, I.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: Know open portals. I know, I know that's that is
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: an actual thing. I just I don't think if that
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: was a thing, why don't we see anything else in nature.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: Using that is my thing. And like I said, I'm
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: not I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that this credit.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying this. I've never seen anything that showed
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: me anything other than just an animal. You've heard me
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: say a million times figure out but all. But you know,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: as well as anybody else said, if I see something
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: like that, I'll be the first to say, you know
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: what I was wrong?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well you have seen orbs. Hey, I
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: was super excited when you tell me you saw orbs.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: Right, you've seen I think I did.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: That's a little supernatural.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: Robbie, you were excited to tell me about it too.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: I don't. Honestly, I don't know exactly what I was seeing,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: but I did want to stand next to Johnny and
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: Greg and be influenced by what they were saying right
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: next to them. So me being me, I went in
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: the pitch black dark about seventy five yards down the
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: trail away from them. I know, I love that. There
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: was no no, no, no Robbie wranglers anywhere around. You know.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: I was out on my own anyway, and I was
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: there watching and I could still hear them but I
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: was seeing things before what they were saying was getting
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: to me instead of then me being right beside them
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: and here exactly what they were saying. It was like
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: I could see something and then I would hear them
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: say it. So I wasn't being influenced by what they
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: were saying. What I'm for getting that.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Was it high high mind, Yeah, which.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: Is exactly why I didn't want you know, because the
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: minutes you say hey, did you see that? A lot
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: when you bring somebody and you got a track and
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: say hey, look at that track, they're automatically going to
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: see a track you when you say, hey, what do
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: you see? Oh well I see a track, or oh
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: I don't see anything. You let you have to let
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: somebody make their own determination, because if you imprint something
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: on their mind, nine times out of ten, that's what
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: they're gonna see. You said, did you see the face
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: in that tree bark?
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: Did you hear that bigfoot?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Sometimes if you go in the woods looking for bigfoot,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: everything is going to be a bigfoot if you if
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: you're not keeping an open mind about everything. So yeah,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: that's you gotta be You gotta be careful. Not everything's
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: a bigfoot. I'm not saying it was a big foot,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: but it might have been a bigfoot, right. That's kind
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: of my go to with everything that happens to us
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: out there. Firewater by Design, thank you so much for
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: that super sticker. It don't mean a thing without Miss
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Jessica Southern Twain. Thank you. Hit the lake button.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: Y'all.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know that's interesting that you just said it
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: don't mean a thing. That was actually a song I
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: used to sing when I was in dance competitions and stuff.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: I used to sing a song called it don't mean
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: a thing. I swear to goodness I did. And the
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: woman who taught me how to sing real well was
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: at this memorial service from my grandmother today and I
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: h anyways, this a long story, what a connection. I
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: love that. Thank you, Firewater by Design though I appreciate it. Okay, Greg, Greg,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I'm a little behind on the comments right now. Greg said,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: I'm planning to go to Tennessee. Kumbo is going to
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: be there. I told him I would go, so and
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: h and Eric said, with the bizarre unknown he says,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make a camping trip in that area soon. Okay,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean we're I think we should. I
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: really think about doing that meet and greet. Okay, I
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: think we really should. I think we'd get a good
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: crowd out there, and I think that would be really
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: really fun. Actually, and I get to meet DA in
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: person too, That would be fun. I had a chance
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: to get them.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: You never met the A in person? I thought you had.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: No Where would I have met d A? I don't.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever done a conference together. I figured, yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: we haven't, not yet, not yet, but we will. You
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: know what, if we're not asked to speak at a conference together,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna have to make our own conference. Maybe.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Maybe we should do that.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: You're come to uh Ohio in October. That you would
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: like that conference?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, m hmm.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Look at what Eric said. If they eat me, they
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: will get diabetes.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: Diabetes, Oh.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: Eric and his fluffy But that's funny.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: Okay. And d A, Uh, what's the guy.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: That's where you're teaching? Tracking? Right? Is that that conference?
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that'd be fun. That's a long drive for
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: me though, that's a long way.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: It's well, it's about the same as I think it
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: was it took me about It took me a little
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: bit longer this last time, or last October I went
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: up there because it was right after the hurricane, so
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: I had to get diverted. Uh. But it still only
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: took about nine and a half hours, which not I
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: mean consider not drive twelve and a half hours get
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: to go to Missouri nine It's not that bad. But
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: it was. It was a great conference, especially for it
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: just being a first year conference. It was really good.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, well I will look into that and
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: see what's going on. I'm speaking at a bunch of
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: conferences and stuff this year, a bunch of events.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: So, uh.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: You know this, this message right here made me think
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: of something and I wanted to ask you about it. Robbie,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: Patriots Starfighter, thank you for being here.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: I find aerial pics of Damn from above at Lake Mead.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: It has satanic symbols all over it in the middle
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: of it. Okay, Robbie, I haven't talked to you about
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: this yet. I've been doing some research on I think
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Eric came on the show with me Edie Testaman and
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: we were talking about the the human animal hybrid type
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: super Soldier program that our military was doing. There's actually
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: this I don't know if I've sent this to you,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: but there's some Israeli news. There was a video on
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: YouTube where the guy was talking about how the you know,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: the Pentagon had gone in or the CIA had gone
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: in to get some funding to eliminate assets from this
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: program that was being funded by our government that had
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: been going on for decades and it had gotten out
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: of control. They needed to eliminate the assets to discontinue
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: this program. It's where they had been injecting people doing
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: some kind of crisper stuff with lion DNA, wolf DNA
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: and bear DNA, okay, And they were actually discussing how
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: it was like humans that were they were trying to
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: turn them into like kind of beasts a little bit. Yes,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: They were putting them in pairs male and female all
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: over the world, driving them off. And they were talking
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: about how they were living in caves. There was some
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: connection to caves and wherever these caves where they were at,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: they would have a pentagram painted on the outside of
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: that cave and there was and it was almost like
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: ritualistic kind of stuff. You know, we were talking about
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: weier wolves. They even talked about how the Clintons were
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: in on this, paid the Clintons and that, and that
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: missus Clinton, let's just say, was part of this program
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: even back when she and they were in Arkansas before
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: he was president, and uh, and she was actually a
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: like the head witch that was teaching them the rituals
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: on how to get these people to turn. This was
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: something that our project, our military was working on. I mean,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: first of all, what do you think about that? Do
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: you think it's even possible? And do you think that?
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: Just tell me what you think.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: We had we talked about this one time and Doc
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: and Steve actually kind of weighed in on what it
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: would what it would take. Uh, you know, and I'm
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: not doctor or Steve either one with their medical knowledge,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: but what it would take and how the body would
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: be able to Yeah, man bear feed Greg guess it. What? Yeah,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: what it would take for the body to go through that?
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: And you know, Doc said, I'm not gonna say it's impossible,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: but it would it would be. It would be very
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: taxing on the body. It would take a lot of energy,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of stress on cells. So but at the
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: end of the day, neither one of them could say
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: they could say without or beyond one hundred percent or
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: beyond have a doubt that it was impossible. So there
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: was a yeah, and agree with you, there can't. They are.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: But if like, just to echo off what he just
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: said right there, if there's anybody that I think would
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: be into trying to get that done out, I would
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: say it would be probably them. They would probably be
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: looking into anything like that because Doc actually found out
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: and we have been able to find it since you know,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: big surprise you find a story like that and then
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden it goes dark. We did a
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: whole show on it. Doc actually found an article. We're
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: somewhere back in the forties or fifties, I think, supposedly
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: the government released a bunch of genetically altered dog man
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: into Louisiana to let them read with the local dog
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: man population to see what what came out of it.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's juicy. Okay, that's that's pretty cool. I mean
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: it's terrible. Okay, it's terrible, but that's pretty pretty interesting
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: intel right there, I'll tell you what I mean. It
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: would totally make it. It makes sense, so, right, genetically
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: modified dog men.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so they wanted to let wanted to
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: let them or the articles said they want to let
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: them bread with you know, the regular dog men to
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: see see what see what come up?
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: I wonder what happened. Was there any kind of you know,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: conclusion to it?
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: We will could Yeah, I guess, I guess, as Bobby
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: would say, continues.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: It's an ongoing investigation. Okay, genetically modified dog win?
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to humans we know wouldn't do it. We know
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: that that Russia was trying to breed humans and apes
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: together to get a super soldier.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Well why wouldn't they do like a bear a bear man,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: the bear man pig. Yeah, you know they put things
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: like that there to be a joke, but really that's
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: what they're doing.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm gonna tell you something I saw. I saw
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: something on YouTube the other day. What did you see that?
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: Do you remember a show back when we were kids?
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: And I know there's something Greg you might remember this.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: This was it was basically professional wrestling on rollers case.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: It was called roller Derby. Do you remember that show?
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: I had a lady talking about roller Derby.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: Today, But do you remember the show?
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the show, but we have roller Derby
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: Well there there was that there was a show. It
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: was called roller Derby and it was it was the
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: big TV production of it was it was the w
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: w F at that because that's what was there at
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: the time. It was it was wrestling. It was pro
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: wrestling on roller skates. So I was I rolled run
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: across it on YouTube. I remember that, I want to
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: I want to watch that, and I watched this. This
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: thing was back on what was on in the eighties.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: I was watching episode number one and I'm sitting there
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: and the announcer was like, well, that makes aboudy as
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: much sense or next you're gonna tell me Donald Trump
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: is gonna be president. And I'm like, wait, I'd read
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: what about I said, did they just say that? Because
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like he was saying as a joke. It's
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: like he was saying it almost like tongue in cheek.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I watched it like three or four times.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, he literally was it was like he was joking,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: but he wasn't joking. And like I said, this thing
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: was back in the eighties.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: It's like they knew something. They knew It's like the
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: Simpsons predicting all this stuff, right. I don't know. We're
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: we're living in the Truman Show. If you haven't noticed, Robber,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, aren't we. I know. That's why. That's why
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: we're doing these shows. That's why I do my shows
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: to bust out the matrix. I've already kind of busted out,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm kind of bringing trying to bring everybody with me.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: So yeah, y'all, come on, y'all, y'all hop on in.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Buckle up. We're on the We're on the bullet Train
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: to bust out the matrix. Okay, those magnetic bullet trains
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: and these deep underground military bases we're going to. We're
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: on take over the Cryptid Huntress, takeover of the bullet Trains.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: And I've said this many times before. You know, movies like, uh,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: that movie will Will Smith was in with oh what's
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: his name and the Transformers. I think it was called
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: maybe Eagle Eye or something like that. Anyway, movies back
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: in the early nineties, and there's a scene in there
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: where the satellite's reading the newspaper over this guy's shoulder
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: and everybody's like, oh man, that's just that's so far fetched.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: But anything you see in the movies that that you
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: think is so far fetched. We're probably ten fifteen years
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: ahead of that already of what we can do have. Yeah,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: like play of military planes that we that we see
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: that we actually see now that we think are new
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: planes have probably been in service for fifteen twenty years
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: and we don't even know because you know, my brother's
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: in the Marine Corps. He was over every aid of
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: every hornet in the Marine Corps one time, and there's
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: just been been stuff, little things that he said that
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hmm, yeah, it's just.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: They know, yeah, they know. Mike Jones, Okay, Jessica, would
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: you do a show if you haven't already on the
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: hybrids of the Book of Enoch and the drawings of
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: them on the pyramids. Yes, I will look into that.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: That sounds really cool. Actually, thank you, Mike, I totally will.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: What's up, Jane, Yeah, there's there's a lot that is
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: hidden from the general public. Robbie okay, and uh and
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: and sometimes they just put little breadcrumbs out there to
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: put it into the collective consciousness, so that we created
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: ourselves because we are manifesting our reality on our own.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: So let's manifest a better reality and disconnect from what
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: the controllers. I guess you could call it want us
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: to do and want to show us and want to
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: hide from us. And let's create our own thing. Let's
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: put the truth out there. Like I said, that's why
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: we do shows like we do, Robbie, to get to
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: the bottom of things and to find the truth and
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: just a question. We're never going to find the total truth,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: I think with a lot of this stuff. But we
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: can question the narrative, right, we can question it. I mean,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. Somebody's got to do it.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do it, and you'll do it.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: You'll do it over on your channel too. We question it.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: And and you guys are a bunch of law enforcement officials,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: So who better to question the narrative than people who
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: have urged currently and formerly in law enforcement. I love
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: it and don't get no better than that.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: We try.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. And so yeah, occasionally I steal you
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: away from that show from your channel over there, and
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: I bring you over here. And I am so excited
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: that you came over tonight, Robbie. We always have fun,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: don't we.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I always enjoy it. Yeah, and you know, hopefully,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: hopefully got the keys yesterday for the house they're going
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: to have to move into, so they hopefully will be
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: moving in the next little bit. So hopefully when it
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: gets over there age, we'll get internet set up and
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: we able to get our show back up and running hopefully.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: So I'll say a prayer for the A and that
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: and the boys and make sure hopefully they can get
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: everything going.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in the case that you guys are taking
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: a little hiatus a little longer, you're welcome to come
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: back over here anytime. You know, You're always welcome to
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: come over here and hang out with me, because we
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: never have a shortage of anything to talk about.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: We don't enjoy it.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: We don't. Okay, So you're still you know what, Robbie,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because I asked you if you're
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: still in the flesh and bone camp. I've always been
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: in the fleshing bone camp. But I'm also war camp too,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm both. Okay, I'm just saying I'm both both.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: They're flesh and bone, but they're also supernatural too, But
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: so are us. I mean, I'm I'm a supernatural being.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: I know I am. I'm multi dimensional. I think you
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: are too. You're a supernatural. You've got some abilities.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know about it.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen you turn into wear wolf yet. I'm
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: still waiting.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, uh, you know, I have been to
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: my whole life and it don't happen. So I don't
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: Well, you don't want to. I mean, you don't want to.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: You don't want to. You don't want to if you
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: don't have to.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: When I was a kid.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, right, Oh my gosh, oh man,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of people and that what he says,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: I'm shocked. Was he a police officer too?
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: Why do you think we all get along so good?
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: We're all that me, him, d A, Steve do We're
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: all just like oh man?
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: Why why do you think it is that people that
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: work in law enforcement are so connected to the crypted world?
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: Why is that?
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: I know, we see we may have talked about the
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: investigative aspect of it all, but is that it or
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: the calls you all take does it get you interested
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: in it?
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I can't speak for Greg and
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: for d A me personally. Number one, you know it's
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: a quest for I hate to be be this quest
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: for truth and all that stuff, but it kind of is.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: You know, I've always, since I was a kid, knew
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: that these things existed because I know what I saw,
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: So it was it was never about me proving it
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: to anybody. It's like I said, And I guess that's
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: why I don't really care if I if anybody believes
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: me or not, because nobody's ever believed me my entire
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: life until you know, six years ago when I started
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: getting in this community. So I really don't care. So
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: it's not it's not that question about proving. But I
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: guess for me, it was more of, Okay, well if
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: this exists, what else is out there type thing? What
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: else can I What else can I find out? What?
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: You know? What else can I you know? Can I see?
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: What else can I get involved in? What else can
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: I do? It's like, you know, I've had I've had
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: my big foot encounters. I want to have a dog grandcounter.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying I want to have a supernatural encounter,
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: but I've never had one, so you know that's on
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: the cards too.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: We are sitting here with me and I am supernatural.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: Thanks Sovereign. That's funny supernatural, Jessica, you've been hanging out,
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: You've hung out with me before. Supernatural out there, those
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: orbs are supernatural. I'm just saying.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 2: I don't feel I don't feel any different. I don't
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: feel like I've had anything. I just I feel like
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: I saw something. I'm not sure what I saw. So
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: it's not like when I had my bigfoot encounter the
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: very first one, it was like, oh, it was just
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: world changing, and it kind of felt almost the same way.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: Almost every single other encounter I had that way, but
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: it just didn't feel it didn't have the same impact
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: on me because I just I don't know what I saw.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: I knew what I saw, and I knew what I
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: was experiencing every time I had a bigfoot experience. Maybe
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: that's the difference, because I was like, Okay, I'm looking
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: at a bigfoot. Okay, this is a bigfoot doing this.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like this is you know. Even though I'm
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: pretty sure that those were dog man, I still didn't
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: get to see anything, so it's still that element of
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: an unknown. I feel more sure about the LBL being
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: a dog man than I not that I'm not. I'm
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: still sure that that was a dog man. Encounter that
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: we had Jo, But I'm just more sure about the
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: l B L it being a dog man because I
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: did see the eye shine. It was different eye shine,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: different color, different shape than any eye shine I've seen
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: with with Bigfoot. And Greg was there that that weekend.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: There were some other people had some had some encounters
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: in too, but I just it was that's one of
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: the only times I've been scared. And you know me,
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't get rattled.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: I don't get but you ain't never scared.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: But I was concerned. I was concerned that night. Yeah,
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: And maybe it's because my my daughter was there and
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: I was in dad mode. Maybe that was a little bit.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was in I was in ma mood
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: that night that you were you and I were out
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: there with and have my son.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: So maybe that's why I was more concerned. I don't
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: think so. I think I was more concerned because just
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 2: there was a different vibe and a different feeling than
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 2: any of the other times, and it was just you know,
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: like I said, I can't speak for gregor da or
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: you know, any of the rest of the guys that
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: I know, or police offers that get into this, but
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: it's just and obviously i'd say probably some of it
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: is the investigative part of it, you know, always trying
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: to I'm sure Greg will agree with this, and Rodney
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: he's still in the chat getting to the bottom of it,
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: solving the mystery, all that kind of stuff. You know
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: that that drives us no matter what we're doing, if
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: you enjoy that. And you know, I was an investigator
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: for probably six years something like that, So that's that's
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: a driving force. But it's just it's hard to put
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: a finger on what what exactly because it's more than
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: one thing. Obviously.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean I would I would assume that,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: you know, I talked a few times about how some
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: of the sheriff's deputies in the place where I used
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: to live, they used to I had someone who worked
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: in the Navel One Center. I knew most of the
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: girls that were there, and I didn't ever many guys
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: that worked there, but there were guys that were there too,
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: but a lot of the girls that worked there, and
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: and I had I had the inside scoop, okay, when
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: it came to people that would call in those reports
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: of you know, hitting a dog and then the dog
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: got up and it ran off on two legs, like
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: with with a car, like somebody ran hit a dog
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: with their car, but it got up and it ran
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: off and it was confusing like things like that, like
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: they would. I got told that kind of stuff. I
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: was the Bigfoot girl, so so yeah, something weird happened.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: I'd hear about it. So I couldn't imagine taking a call,
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: you know. And let's let's get to your book now,
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: because in your book, the main character, who, by the way,
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: looks just like you. Okay, hey, looks just like Robbie
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: rains go Lee. I don't know what that's about. But
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: Doeslu just like you? And uh and he he actually takes,
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: you know, calls and runs into things, uh situations. Let's
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: just say that it may involve wear wolves and the
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: shadow walkers as we call them, right, and and so
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: I think that happens with with cops. And that's why
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: that's why I've always thought that maybe there's more people
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: in law enforcement that're in the cryptid world because of
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: the curiosity behind some of the calls they take.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: And you know, that's that's that's kind of why I
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: took the approach to it, because obviously I don't work
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: for a sheriff's office. I work for this power. But
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: I got a lot of friends who were deputy sheriffs,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: and a lot of them go out and answer calls
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: out in the middle of nowhere with no backup so
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: or to speak of anywhere close. And that's kind of
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: where a lot of that kind of the idea for
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: the book just morphed into what happens is you go
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: out to a call like that. You know, and Greg
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: will tell you, you go to calls like this, And I've
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: gone to calls like this, and in some of the
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: cities that I worked in, some of the rural cities,
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: you know, working nights and you're the only one working,
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: and the sheriff's office may be your only back up,
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: and you know they're out in the county somewhere. So
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: I think, you know you, but you've got to do
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: your job. You've got to deal with this kind of stuff.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: So what happens you go to a call like that
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 2: and suddenly you're face to face with a you know,
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: a ten foot werewolf that jumps off yeah site or
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: top of a house on top of you. What do you?
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? You? You don't see scenario
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: that because you know I made that comment in the book.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: You always run the scenarios in your head. And I'm
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: sure Greg will tell you he did the same thing.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: That's something I do constantly. Okay, if I if I
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: stop a car and this happens, how am I gonna
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: handle it? If I go to a call and this happens,
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: how am I gonna handle it? What am I gonna do? Somebody,
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: you know, squares up on me. If somebody pulls a
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: gun on me, somebody pulls a knife, what am I
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: You constantly run those scenarios in your head, because that's
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: the way we're talking the academy. You know, you're you're
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: constantly running these scenarios. You're constantly mhm. Because the more
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: you bleed in practice, unless you bleed in battle, or
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: the more you sweat and practice less you bleed in battle.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: However you want to look at it, So you're constantly
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: running these scenarios too, And that way, when it is
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 2: something does happen, it's muscle memory. You just act and
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: you don't have to think about it. But you know,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't run a scenario in your head. Okay,
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: If I if I got this call at werewolf jumps
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: off the top of the house on me, how am
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: I gonna handle it? What am I gonna do? That's
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: not something that most normal people are going to think about.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of where some of the the idea
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: came from. Okay, that's that's a what's he gonna do?
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: How's he going to handle that? Because that's not a
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: normal situation.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: That's not something well, maybe it needs to be putting
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: into the curriculum. Okay, And you know, I keep I
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: just thought about I just I just giggled out loud
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: because I was thinking about that video of the two
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: police officers that got caught out to a c I
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: think it was a cemetery, and I don't know if
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: there's a noise complain or what, but they get out
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: of their car and they start to walk towards the noise,
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: towards I think it was a literally I think it
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: was a graveyard, and you could see them from the
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: dash camp and as they starting to walk towards the cemetery,
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: something just screams really loud, and they both just freak
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: out and kind of simple.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: That Nope, that's right, Nope, I've seen that one.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: Nope, I don't. I don't laying them at that point.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: You know my good friend Bob Grumpy Wilton who passed
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: away last year. Bob was a He was a law
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: enforcement official out in California for a long time. And
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: and it what was it called wester Eseter Gosh, I
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 1: can't remember the name of that. That town where they
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: had like UFOs and stuff. That was where he was
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: a cop I can't remember. But anyways, Exeter, Exeter, I
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: think the name of it. Exeter, Yeah, that was he
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: was there. He took calls like where he would go.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: He got a call that the lights were on at
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: the football field at the local high school and there
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: was a He watched a big carousel shape UFO flying
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: over the town that night. And he said that he
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: got out there in his cop car like they I
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: don't think that he wanted to get out of the
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: cop car or something like. It was it was baddie,
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: they said. He pulled up to the the high school
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: and all in the lights over the football field were blinking,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: and the lights inside the high school were like blinking
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: on and off and stuff. He said, it was wild.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: And there's this like keras ship UFO that was spinning
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: over the school and it was wild. He was like, nope, nope,
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get out, you know. But anyways,
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: that's wild Bob. Bob was a special one man. He
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: was a special dude. But that's yeah. I don't know
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: what I would do in that case either, I mean really,
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I guess that's your job.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: I mean never, I've not been trained in police training,
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: you know, so I don't know. You guys are trained
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: to go run towards the danger though, right.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've said this many times. Greg said it,
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: Da said it. You know, most all of us said it.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: To do the job that we do, you've got to
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: be wired different. And you know, if you know any
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 2: of us other than you know, we're all wired different.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, which is why we all get along with
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: each other, because it's just you. You don't do this job,
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: especially as long as some of us have done it
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: if you can't, because you have to be able to
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: compartmentalize stuff, because you see stuff that most normal people
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: couldn't handle. And yeah, I think me and Greg was
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: talking about this is the things that that we see
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: most normal people just I just could not and I
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: say normal because we're not normal. There's I mean, and
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: maybe that's maybe that's why we're we're so good in
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: this community is because of how abnormal we're, you know, like, uh,
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: Marty Felman said, abby abby normal normal. Oh my gosh,
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: the brain he got from uh for young Frankenstein.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just glad that there are law enforcement officials
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: out there that have open minds like you guys have
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: you know, you take outside the box kind of cause
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: you got to. I guess, yeah, you don't have to,
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: but you do, And so I commend you for that.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: Y'all are they're chasing Dobbs? Do the people at your
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: job know that you go out and chase Bigfoot and
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: dog Win? They kept I kept it secret for my
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: job for a long time. I just told him I
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: was going camping.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, My chief's cool about it. Most everybody's cool. Bye.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: I've got a few goofballs that love to try to
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: give me a hard time about it, but you know,
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: it's what it is. But everybody, everybody at the school
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: that I work at, is cool by it. They love it.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: I mean I've had probably twelve or thirteen of them
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: by my book and they're like, we're having a signing party.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there, which, uh, one of my Wolfpack readers
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: is he works at school with me and he's had
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: he helped me out because you know, when I was
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: getting ready to that final push to publish, it was
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: right when Da was having all his electrical problems his house.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 2: So he was like, Dude, I don't know what we're
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 2: gonna do. I don't know if I'm gonna be able
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: to help you. And Ryan was like, I got you,
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: don't worry about it because he's actually publishing books too.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: So he helped me right there at the critical part
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 2: where I was like, I don't know how I'm gonna
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: get this thing done because you know, Da can't do
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 2: the stuff he was gonna he was gonna do to
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: help me. But she was able to get his laptop
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: going enough to do a few of the things. But
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: it was good to have that extra person there that
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: knew what was going on to kind of kind of
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: help me out because actually the cover of the book, Yeah,
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: and Son, you will tell you that that was not
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 2: my original idea for the cover. My original idea was
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: something totally different. But uh, but Ryan, yeah, he came.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: He was like, he said that, he said, because my
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: original idea was having a werewolf standing up on the
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: top of lookout looking out or jumping off rock and
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 2: you know, having that iconic scene from the horse pasture.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 2: But nobody would have known where it's unless you're from here.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 2: He said, that scene right there where he's getting ready
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 2: to go to in the house. Now, of course obviously
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: the werewolf was in the house, but that's that's it.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: He said. That sets the tone, and that sets the
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: stage for the whole book. So Adam nailed it.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: I think he did a really good and that it
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: looks just like you. Okay, so.
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: He's never he's never seen me before. I just know
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: that's yeah, that's the same guy does DA's book covers.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: I've never never seen him before. I just told him,
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: I said, I told him the color of the uniform,
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: told him bald head with a salt and pepper beard,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: and got it. He knailed it, and that's that's all him.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. In for UPD, I did an entire show on
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: the Faukville MetalMan and uh and I did a remote
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: viewing target of that a while back. It wasn't that
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: long ago. Actually, so if you want to go back
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: and watch that show that I did on this and
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: that's where a police officer that kind of like I
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: don't want to see it ruined his life. But he
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: took a call one night. He was the police chief
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: out in Faulkville, Alabama. He took this call. Robbie, I
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: don't think you came on the show with me for
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: that one. I can't remember. But he went out to
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: this call and and he ran into a like a
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: man wearing a metal suit, like a luminum foil or
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: something that was wild and uh, and it lily like
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: a man. He thought it was a man until he
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: walked up to it, and I was like, how did
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: he have a neighbor or something? I forgot what he
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: said to him, He's like, what's up, dude? And uh,
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: and the thing he said he realized at that moment.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: He's like, it wasn't human. And he got his truck.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: He literally said, he tried to run it over with
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: his truck and uh, he drove it down and he
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: ended up it was running so fast he couldn't catch
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: up with it with the terrain that he was driving on,
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: and he crashed his truck Robbie. He said it pretty
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: much ruined his life from that point forward. So in
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: for UPD, I've covered it, and it's a fantastic show, okay,
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: And it's a fantastic target to do. And I don't know,
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: I gotta say, I think it could have been a
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: fireman wearing a fire suit personally, that's what I think.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: The data the data was almost inconclusive. I don't think
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: it was. I don't think it was an actual alien, Okay.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, it's a good story.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: Sounds like it.
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: Was. You're gonna have to you got to look into it. Actually. Yeah.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: And uh, and Greg was actually in the chat say
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: that that he knows, you know, some of his fellow
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: police officers, law enforcement officials, they've had big foot sattings,
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: but they won't admit to it.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know a lot of us worry about,
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 2: you know, going in court and some pulling that up
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: But oh, that's a good point.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 2: I'm on the I'm on the shady side at the
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 2: end of my career, so.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: You're on the back end.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the down down slope and I'm in
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: the school now, so it's not like I don't have
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 2: to go to court a whole lot anymore.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: So, so you're basically what you're saying is if you
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: come out and say that you believe in bigfoot and
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: you've got bigfoot saintings and you saw a bigfoot on
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: a call, that they're going to somebody, the d A
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: or somebody or not the d the other The problem
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 1: the defense attorneys are going to burn you at the
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: stake basically is what they're going to do.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: It You're going to be Yeah, it's a distinct possibility
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 2: that they can do because but you think about it.
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 2: You know, back in you know, fifteen twenty years ago,
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: most all and DA said this many times. Most of
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 2: all people that come forward and said they saw Bigfoot
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: was you know Billy Bob and his overall his bib
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: overall is one, you know, one strap unclipped and hung
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 2: over his shoulder. And yeah, I doesn't sent it, but
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: I sent it.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: I told him get get out of here. Actually I
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 1: know old Tim up in North Carolina.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 2: But now you you get doctors, you get lawyers, you
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 2: get police, and this this drives me up the wall.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: You know, we can we can take a witness statement
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: from somebody, and that's good enough to put somebody in jail,
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: But it ain't good enough to say we saw Bigfoot. Yeah,
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: it's good enough to take somebody's you know, freedom, but
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 2: it's not good enough for anybody to believe that that
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot's real. Oh, think about it this way. I said
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 2: this the other night, or not that, and I said
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: a couple months ago, think about if Bigfoot is fake,
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 2: if this is a hoax. I don't think a lot
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 2: of people think about about it in these terms. But
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: if this is fake, and if it is a hoax,
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: how big and how many people? How big of a
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: corporation and how many people would it take to keep
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: a hoax like that going for as long as it's
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 2: been going. Would that not be the biggest company in
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 2: the world, because it would be. It would have to
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 2: be a worldwide company. It would have been for millions
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 2: and millions of people that were sworn to secrecy but
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 2: never said a word ever.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 1: It would be a lot of work. But look how
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: much the wolve has been pulled over our eyes for decades.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. It would. Yeah, it's a
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 2: lot harder to believe that it's a hoax than it
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 2: is to believe it's real, because if you start thinking
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: in the terms of, okay, if this is a hoax,
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: how are they keeping this going? That would be a
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: multi billion dollar company just to keep the hoax alive?
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 2: Number one? And number two, why why would you why
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: would you perpetuate this hoax if you knew it was
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: a hoax and you're it makes no sense? Does it
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: takes more faith to believe that it's a hoax than
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: it does to believe it's real if you really start
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: breaking it down and looking at it in terms of
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: what it would take, because you know that you would
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: have to have how many people would you have to
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: have out just putting tracks in random places hoping that
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: somebody would find it?
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: Gosh, yeah, well, I mean, I know it's not a hoax,
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: but the general public may not know.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 2: And I think it's the general public will think about
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 2: it in terms like that of okay, well, yeah, that
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: it is kind of that's that's that's kind of stupid
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: to think that way. I think a lot more of
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: them might start coming around.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah maybe so, Hey, Leanita, I see Lenita Bright here.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you for being here tonight. Yes, Eric says they
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: have been around way before. White white came here, not
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: counting around this world. Okay, Yes, and Greg says, we
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: had a man that was a multi county drug task
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 1: force come clean to me about a bigfoot saving. He
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: had his deputy sheriff. This man was very well respected.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember Greg telling me that story.
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, okay, listen, you would
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 1: think the cryptid huntress her dad would be cool with Bigfoot,
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, I believe so you're doing this. Bigfoot's
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: gotta be real. My dad still doesn't believe in Bigfoot, Robbie, Okay,
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 1: so it is what it is. I'm not trying to
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: convince him. I just hope that he I think that
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: he may have even seen one at some point, but
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: he just doesn't want to believe that it's real. Okay,
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: And that's okay. He can live in this fantasy world.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: That's fine, Fine, Dad, Okay, keep on living in your fantasy.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: He thinks I'm living in a fans That's the funny thing.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: This isn't that weird? How how the perception is.
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 2: That with us?
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, we think that they're living in a
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: fantasy world for not you know, And I'm not saying
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: that everybody that doesn't believe in Bigfoot is living in
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: a fantasy world. But it's like, my reality is my reality,
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: my dad's reality is his reality. It's all good. It's
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 1: all good. It is what it is, y'all. And my
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: dad obviously doesn't watch my shows either. He doesn't get
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: internet at his house. He was out in the middle
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: of nowhere. So but anyways, nonetheless, Robbie, thank you so
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: much for being here tonight. This has been fantastic. I
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: know it's getting late for everybody, especially here on the
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: East Coast, and so we won't keep y'all here all night. Okay,
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: we won't, and I've had a long, long day to day,
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: but it has been well worth it getting hang out
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 1: with you tonight, Robbie. I'd stay on here forever and
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: talk to you, but I know, I know we have to,
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: we have to enit at some point, so it's plea Yeah,
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: at some point, let's talk about your book before we
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 1: go tonight. And I know we've talked about a little bit,
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: but like, where can people find it and just talk
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 1: about whatever you want to talk about your book?
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: The book is available on Amazon, you can get it
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: in I think there's three ways you can can get it.
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 2: You can get the paperback, you can get the e book,
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: or you can do the I think it's called Kendall Unlimited,
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 2: where you actually rent it and you can read it
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: and then return it once. You keep so many books
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: at a time and you have it's kind of like
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: a library, but you can keep them as long as
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: you want to and you just get to a certain
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 2: point and you've got to turn a book back in.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: But like I said, just Amazon Search. You can search
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 2: my name. Make sure you spell it Robby and a
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 2: lot of people spell my name r obb i E
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: and it might not show up if you spell it
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 2: that way, or you can do shadow Walkers. It's actually
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: I think at number twenty four in one category I
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: was on day one when it debuted. I was in
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: the top fifty and four of the categories, four of
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: the seven categories it was in. So it's it's done
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 2: pretty good and I and I was kind of proud
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: of this more almost more so than some of the others.
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: It was number eight hundred and forty five in police Procedurals.
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 2: So to me, that's that's that said that yeah, that
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 2: I tells. Yeah, that was one of the categories. I
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 2: put it in the category. Oh, there's there's tons of
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: different categories. Uh, and that that's that's something that you know,
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: was kind of there's a lot more to writing is easy.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: Part the always told me that, but I didn't really
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: kind of. Uh, my name of it is shadow Walkers
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 2: is and this is the first book is silver Star.
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: Shadow Walkers is the is the series title and Silver
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: Star's first book. Second book hopefully will be out the
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: next the next few weeks. Maybe I'm on chapter seven
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 2: now and like fifteen thousand words into it, so it's
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 2: getting there.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: Wow, that is I mean, Robie, you're going to be
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: cranking these books out at this rate. You're gonna be.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 2: My goal is to get is to have three books
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 2: out before the school year in. So I've got it.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know that i'll get it before the school
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 2: year ends. I definitely will have two out before the
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 2: school year ends. It's just a lot easier to work
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: on when I'm in the school because I've got you know,
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 2: I can I got to do my things in the morning,
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: and then I've got some time that i can kind
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: of just sit there and uh work on some stuff
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: before i have to go other things to do. But
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 2: like I said, hopefully i'll get h I'll get this
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 2: one out next maybe the next three weeks. Just it
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 2: just depends. I'm as matter of fact, I probably will
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 2: email Adam tomorrow and go ahead and give you an
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 2: idea so you can start working on the book cover
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: for the UH for the second book. Second books gonna go.
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 2: Greg will tell you it's gonna go in a different
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: I mean there's it's still gonna have the same crew,
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: every and everything in it, but it's going in a
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 2: vastly different direction than this book went there. There there's
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 2: gonna be some Put it this way, any of y'all
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 2: that are fans of DA's books, you might want to
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: definitely read this one because there's gonna be some. D
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 2: A and I have done some brain brainstorming on on
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 2: this one. I called him last night and read read
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 2: something to it, and he was like, I like it.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: He likes it. Not to give anything away, you're just
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 1: giving a little bread crumbs tonight, but it's gonna be good.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be real good.
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 2: Greg's one of my wolf Pack readers. He hadn't read
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: this part yet. He's gonna he's gonna freak out when
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 2: he reads this part.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Robbie, thank you so much for letting
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: me read your book early too. And I'm I'm about
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: halfway through it. I love it, by the way, I
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: think it's great. I am super impressed. From the first
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: few pages. I was like, dang, Robbie rains. Uh, it's
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: really good. So you guys please go out and purchase
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: one of Robbie's books. I think this is amazing. I
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: do have a link in the description box of the
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: show here on YouTube and on Facebook. If you guys
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 1: are watching on the Facebook stream tonight, you can go
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 1: purchase your book. Hit that description box, okay, and and
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: you can find it on Amazon. It's amazing, Robbie. I'm
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: super I'm super excited for you. It's really good, very
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 1: talented man.
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I appreciate it. I, like I said,
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 2: I've had it in drags out through you for a loop.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 2: Oh you just went Greg, you read this one.
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: He threw me for a loop. You were how do
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: you do that? You weren't expecting Robbie to write a book.
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting to write it. I didn't think. I know,
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: you're gonna write a book, Robbie.
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody did. I don't think because, like
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: I said, d A had been on me for even Cam.
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 2: Uh and Cam was on our show like three times
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 2: the first time he was on the show. I mean
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 2: he'd been on with DA before that. But I'm with me,
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 2: he asked me. When was backstage? He said, well, Robbie,
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 2: you uh, you got anything? And you wrote anything, you know,
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 2: because Cam's an author too. Well, yeah, I got some
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: I got I got a few ideas, he said, we'll
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: write them. Uh. Hold on to that thought, Just hold
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 2: on to that marveling thought that you might not be
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: too far off. May be who knows there? Just wait
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: and see who knows.
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: My lips are sealed, can't factor. This is a party, man,
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: This is a party every Saturday night. Uh in my
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: leader aged this is my idea of a big party
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 1: on a Saturday night. Mine too, kent. This is about
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: as wild and crazy as I get on a Saturday night.
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 1: These say, well, actually, I don't know. I go out
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: in the woods too. That's kind of fun. I like
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 1: sitting there being all stinky, hoping a big foot will
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: step on me and stuff too. I like to go
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: hide in the woods. That's actually, that's actually kind of fun.
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'd prefer to be here with you guys, honestly,
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 1: because I'm having too much fun and I have air
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 1: conditioning out here. It's not too hot, it's not too cold.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 1: I'm right here sitting in a comfortable chair, not having
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 1: to worry about bigfoot sniffing me and stuff. Okay, so,
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, thank you guys for everybody for being
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 1: here tonight. This has been fantastic. Like I said, please
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: go purchase Shadow Walkers Silver Star by Robbie Rains on Amazon.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: And Robbie also tell the audience about Dax making a
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 1: podcast and what you guys got going on. I know
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 1: y'all are in a little hiatus right now.
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in a holding pattern right now. Untila gets
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: straightened out. But when the shows up and running just
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: every Wednesday and Saturday night for d X Makna Live,
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 2: and you can catch us on Sunday nights for uh
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 2: Campfire Stories a k a. The r r A or
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 2: the Redneck Reading Association when we read DA's books, and
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 2: we'll probably throw mine in there now too. So yeah, hopefully,
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 2: hopefully the next week or so, because DA's got a
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 2: he just got the keys yesterday to the other house.
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 2: He's got to move. Uh. The landlord has rented a
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: what do you call POD's I think the big personal
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 2: uh storylines. Yeah, he rented he rented one of those,
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna put that in the front yard so
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 2: they can everything that they can't take to the other
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: house with them. They're gonna have store at that house
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: because they're got their whole entire house is gon to
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 2: be rewired, which.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: Means, God, that's a pain in the butt.
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's gonna be a it's gonna
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 2: because the house is built back in the fifties, so
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: there's nothing that passes code right now, so there to.
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 1: Take care of it now than something happened. That's tragic.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 2: They're lucky. But this has been going on for over
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: a year that he's been trying to get my landlord
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 2: to take care of it. Anyway, Lady greg sea house.
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 2: But so they're gonna have to move out of there,
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 2: move h get a U haul, load everything up, drive
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 2: across town, move into this other house for however long
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 2: it takes for them to get their house to get
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 2: redone and then move back into that house. So the
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 2: big thing we don't know is, uh, if they're gonna
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 2: be able to get their internet service and everything switched
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 2: over for a little bit, because you know that whoever
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 2: the internet company is could say now we ain't moving it.
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: Gosh, like I said, that's a big old pain in
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 1: the butt. It's butt. But like I said, at least nothing.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: You know, you're taking care of it now, so no
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: tragedies happen. You know, I live in an old house myself,
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 1: and we had to be real careful about the wiring
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: and stuff. It's fine, but still.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 2: Anybody wants to help this is This is not d
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 2: A asking. This is me. If you get on his page,
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 2: he's got a Patreon if you want to help him out.
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure I'm sure he would. Like I said,
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 2: it's not him asking, This is me saying, if anybody
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 2: wants to, they could use it. Because they're having to
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: pay for the U haul, they're having to pay for
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 2: just about everything else. The only thing that the landlord's
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 2: paying for is that pod, and he's obviously paying They
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: have the house redone, but that he's got to that's
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 2: part of it, but he's not helping d A and
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: them too much on that. So if anybody wants to
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: go help him, go to his atreon on the YouTube
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: channeler is a link to it, and you can help
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 2: out that way.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 1: So that's awesome, Yes, y'all, please go do that. DA
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 1: is a good friend of the show, and DA has
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 1: always been very supportive of me and my channel, and
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: uh and uh we just love them to death, and
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 1: so yeah, and and like I said, I stole Robbie
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 1: away for the evening and and so yeah, please y'all
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: go become a member of their patreon and be sure
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: to tune into d A X MakingA when they're back
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 1: up and running at severy what is it? Wednesday, Saturday
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: and Saturday and Sundays.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 2: Wednesday and Saturdays are d A X making of those
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 2: live shows, and Sundays are me and d A reading
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: this book. A lot of times it's just me and
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 2: DA sometimes dots there. Just I can see. Their schedules
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: are a little bit different than mine, das I work
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, so and d A is he works
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: book schedule, but Doc and Steve still have regular jobs
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 2: that they have to work, and so their time is
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 2: a little bit more chaotic than ours is. But but
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 2: you'll get Doc on there. Sometimes you get Stave a
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 2: lot of times. We'll get Stave on Saturday night.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's always a good time.
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got plenty of plenty of back episodes
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 2: if you've never watched one, if you want to go
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 2: catch a couple of back episodes while you're waiting first
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 2: to come back up live.
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh is that daylight savings.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 2: Time time we spring forward to? Not?
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: Oh no, do we lose an hour? We lose an.
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: Hour springing forward.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: That's always my least favorite. But hey, at least still
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 1: start getting lighter in the mornings, right, I think like earlier,
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: earlier is what I meant. Yeah, okay, that's good for
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 1: best parents to have kids in school. It actually helps.
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 1: I did not even know that. But you know what.
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 1: The good thing about our cell phones and stuff is
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: like they automatically change, so but my wristwatch will not. Okay,
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 1: so thank you, Ken. I had no clue. I've had
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 1: a very busy day to day. I've had a busy
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: I've had a busy week. I've had a busy life,
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: and so I depend on my chat room to help
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: me keep abreast. God, that's a word I've never used,
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: a breast of all the important information. Oh man, you
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: can tell I'm getting tired. We're getting real tired. But
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 1: but Robbie, thank you so much for being here tonight. Again.
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: It's always fun having you here. And you'll please go
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: support Robbie. Go purchase his books. Let's get him to
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: number one and that were Wolf and shape Shifter Amazon
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: category there. I think that's a that's a good goal
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: to set, Robbie. Let's get you up there to number one,
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: at least in the top three. At least the top three.
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right. Well, like I said, I'm still new
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 2: to it. But THEA said that that will because he's
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 2: had a couple go to number one. He said, that
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 2: really helps out your sales. And then of course if
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 2: you buy it and you like it, please give it
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 2: a review. That helps out a lot too. And I
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 2: appreciate that, Eric, but we're not really doing I don't
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 2: have time to number one, number two. We lost that
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 2: room that we were using it in, so we haven't
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 2: done a show or we hadn't recorded what's really out
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 2: there in a long time. I appreciate it if you
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 2: want to support me, to go by the book, because
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 2: that's that's what I'm doing now. I don't I can't
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 2: even remember the last time we recorded a show because
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 2: except we lost the room and we just doing three
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 2: shows with DA and writing a book and doing the
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 2: knives and working and everything else I could do. I
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 2: just I don't have time for And Tyler's got a
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 2: new job, so it's hard for him to get over there.
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 2: It's just it was just it was getting to be
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 2: a hard thing to to throw that in with everything
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 2: else too.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: Eric I did ask him before the show. I was like,
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: are y'all still doing that podcast? Because I had it
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: all on the ticker and everything, and uh, and so
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: I was very aware of that show. That's a that's
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 1: a good podcast, man. But I know, uh, it's when
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: you can put all your energy into one thing word two.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: I know you put your energy into a lot of stuff, right,
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 1: but really focus it on on let's just say, like
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: one podcast or whatever. It really helps. It's your energy
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 1: is not so divided, so you can put more into
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 1: what you're doing, you know, like one do one thing
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: really good? And that's what that's what you y'all y'all
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 1: been doing. Y'all are doing a great job over at
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 1: DA x Makina, so uh, keep on keeping on. I
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: need to get Da back on my show soon too,
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 1: whenever he's up and running. But we'll get him. We'll
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 1: get him back on over here too. So yeah, do
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 1: you have your final thoughts tonight, Robbie? What you think
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 1: about the shadow Walkers and dog Man and werewolf encounters
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 1: and whatever you got going on?
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 2: You know, just keep getting out there in the wood,
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 2: keep looking, keep having fun, being safe, you know, make
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 2: sure somebody knows where you're going. That's where you're supposed
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 2: to be. Back. Check us out on DA x MARKA
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 2: Wednesdays and Saturdays and Sundays when we're back obviously. If
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 2: you like DA's books, go take a take a check
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 2: mine out see if you like it too, and keep
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 2: coming and see in Jessica.
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 1: And go to Lone Wolf Forge and Customs, y'all is
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 1: it customer customs?
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 2: The Instagram page just still says lone Wolf uh loan
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 2: dot Wolf customs. But I've started making knives too, so
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 2: it's kind of changed. The Lone Wolf forget if you
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 2: can see that one up above me beside docks right
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 2: beside the dark Angel Medical says long wolf forging customs
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 2: awesome because I still do the laser stuff. Like that's
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 2: the one I made right before the book, right before
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 2: the book came out.
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I like it.
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 1: It's like a dog man.
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's awesome.
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 1: You're very creative, Robbie.
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 2: That's one for DA's podcast.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice, and.
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 2: I think that one turned out better than any of them.
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 1: The Tiger.
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 2: I like it, so you know, it was very nice.
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 2: I still got all the laser engraving stuff. You know,
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 2: most all this stuff behind me is all the laser
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 2: engraving stuff, handmaking knives and the books, working doing the podcast.
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 2: So you see why I didn't have time to keep Yeah,
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 2: well I didn't have time to keep my podcast going
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 2: because there's just so much other stuff I got going on.
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we just got a lot of creativity and signed
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 1: you there and uh and so that's awesome, And I
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 1: am a proud owner of a beautiful mirror. This is
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 1: the crypton Hunters has got my logo and the dog
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 1: man on it and compliments of Robbie Rain. So thank you, Robbie.
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: I cheerish it it's over on my desk over here too.
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you. Yeah, y'all go, y'all go check
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 1: him out and give him a follow over on Instagram.
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 1: And yeah, Robbie, please come back and see me and
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 1: hang out with me again. Please do Hey, I know
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 1: you you always do whatever you can. And uh, congratulations
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 1: on your new book.
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. I like that. I never thought
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 2: it was gonna it ever happened, because I've had this
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 2: story in my head for or a version of it
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 2: at some point or another for a long time. And then,
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 2: like I said, it just came to me that night.
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, and it hadn't stopped. And DA said, that's
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 2: usually the way it happens.
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, keep cranking them out. Why you why you've
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: got the creativity and you're you're you know, you're flowing
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 1: with the information. Write it out, get it down, drat
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 1: it down, get those books out. Start cranking the books out.
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 1: And yeah, like I said, I'm super proud of you,
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 1: super proud of you.
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably gonna want some worce. We're done here.
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna open it back up, write some more.
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to finish this chapter that I'm on
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 2: right now. I'm gonna try to finish it out tonight,
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 2: so I'm get it out to my wolf Pack readers
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 2: with them look at it. So I'm very happy.
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 1: Well, when you get to your second book, you got
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 1: to come back for sure too. Okay, we'll promote your
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 1: second book too. Awesome. Well, okay, well you guys, thank
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 1: you so much for being here tonight. Everybody that stuck
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 1: with us for almost We've gone almost three hours tonight. Okay,
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 1: it's over two and a half hours. You guys are troopers.
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it so much, and I want to think
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 1: Larry Sharp for the the doing the ten Cryptis Hunters
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 1: memberships tonight. That was huge, and the supersticker and Zoe Start,
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for becoming a member. Kent Baxter,
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for the supersticker and Firewater by Design,
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for the supersticker. All those donations
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 1: really help. And I really appreciate each and every one
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 1: of you guys so much. Y'all please come back and
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 1: see me on Monday. I will be here live Monday
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 1: afternoon at one pm Eastern with another great show for
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 1: you guys, and I'm gonna go get some rest tonight,
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 1: and please, you guys, please keep Jeff Townsend's family in
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 1: your prayers again. And I do this. The show is
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 1: dedicated to Jeff, my good friend, Jeff, my og henchman.
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 1: That is what he called himself to you, and I
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 1: love him so much. He did pass away this week
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 1: and he and I, I want to say, we go
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 1: way back. He's a good friend of mine. And if
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 1: you guys want to, I know a lot of y'all
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 1: we're friends, very good friends with Jeff. And this is
• 2:44:54
  Speaker 1: like like we were actually Robbie was saying earlier, is like,
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 1: you know, he's not asking for donations whatever, but Robbie's saying, please,
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 1: you know, go become a member's patron. Nobody has asked,
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 1: you know, said to you know, send donations anywhere and
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 1: honor of Jeff. But I'm saying, please, if you guys
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 1: want to support someone who has been one of his
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 1: very best friends and his family and who he loves dearly,
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 1: please go over to Standing Goats Rescue and give a
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 1: donation in Jeff's honor. Over to Donnie Miller down in Florida.
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 1: That's a wonderful organization down there, and that's me asking Okay,
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 1: that's me asking all to do that if you can.
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 1: And there's a place actually down there they call Jeff's
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 1: Corner and it's a place where Jeff had a really
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 1: interesting experience down there with some cryptid so standy goats
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 1: rescue care of Donnie Miller. Okay, and yeah, you guys,
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 1: everybody have a wonderful night. You guys, please be safe
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 1: out there. Don't be living in fear. Okay, don't live
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 1: in fear. And also, Rick Heck, thank you so much
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 1: for becoming a member of the Hunt Club. I hope
• 2:46:02
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• 2:46:05
  Speaker 1: you guys can become a member of the Hunt Club
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 1: as well if you hit that join button. Okay, and yes,
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 1: rest in peace to our good friend Jeff Townsend. You
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 1: guys will remember him from the dog Man in the
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 1: Crosshairs episode that we did over here on the channel
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 1: and who's always in our chat. And he's just a
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 1: sweet friend, Okay, very sweet friend. And I love you guys, Robbie,
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 1: thank you again for being here. I will see you
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 1: guys back here on Monday. Keep your head on a swivel, y'all,
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 1: but don't live in fear. Be safe out there.
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 3: Bye Robbie. It's it's, it's it's it's it's
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's