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MNF Doubleheader Recap & Week 15 Rookie Draft · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky and Rhett back
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  Speaker 1: with you. Buck, start with you Herett?
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  Speaker 2: What do you? What are you? What are you waving
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  Speaker 2: for you?
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  Speaker 3: Tommy Cutlets, Baby, Tommy Cutlets.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the veto. We're gonna get to
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  Speaker 1: the veto. I just want to welcome Buck back first,
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  Speaker 1: Harry Buck, how you knowing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Sure, man, I'm good.
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  Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm good to travel. Preventing me from being
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  Speaker 6: on Monday's episode. To be a while to get back
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  Speaker 6: from Cleveland. But I'm here, I'm in La. I'm ready.
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  Speaker 5: I'm ready to rock. Got plenty of opinions this year.
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  Speaker 2: Oh all right, yeah we uh.
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  Speaker 1: We took over for yesterday and dug deep into that
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  Speaker 1: Jaggs Browns game. You're welcome on that one for not
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  Speaker 1: having to come in and talk on that game. We
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  Speaker 1: got we got that covered for you. But let's let's
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  Speaker 1: spin it forward to last night's game. It's time for
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  Speaker 1: the Monday night recap, and we got a double header.
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  Speaker 1: I say we start first of all, Dolphins and the Titans. Again,
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  Speaker 1: the Dolphins, as ugly as it was, had pretty much
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  Speaker 1: in control going down at the end up fourteen or
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  Speaker 1: three minutes to go Buck and that's when the Will
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  Speaker 1: Levis magic took place.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Will Levis magic. Give the Tennessee Titans credit.
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  Speaker 6: This was a game that I don't think anybody coming
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  Speaker 6: in thought that the Titans had a.
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  Speaker 5: Reasonable chance of winning.
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  Speaker 6: The only way that we thought that maybe the Titans
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  Speaker 6: could win would be if the Miami Dolphins really helped
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  Speaker 6: him along the way. Turnovers, bad plays and all that
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  Speaker 6: stuff and lo and behole. The Miami Dolphins decided to
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  Speaker 6: help them along the way. The last part of the
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  Speaker 6: fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 5: They just couldn't finish our drives, couldn't finish the game
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  Speaker 5: the right way.
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  Speaker 6: Defense got surprisingly soft at the end, and Will Levis
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  Speaker 6: made enough plays, they got enough confidence, they got a
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  Speaker 6: two point conversion, the first time I've ever seen that
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  Speaker 6: tactic work, where you go for two so you figure
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  Speaker 6: out what it is at the end, what you need.
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  Speaker 5: It worked, and.
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  Speaker 6: So the Tennessee Titans still won. And I think the
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  Speaker 6: Miami Dolphins they were rude the day that they lost
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  Speaker 6: this game because not only prevented it from claiming the
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  Speaker 6: number one seed. But now it opens up the floodgates
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  Speaker 6: for teams at the bottom end is sneaking to the
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  Speaker 6: playoffs with them to kind of be vulnerable when it
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  Speaker 6: comes to.
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  Speaker 5: The Buffalo Bills. Man man lost on the Miami Dolphins.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, I would I would say that there.
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  Speaker 4: Look at will Will Levis.
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  Speaker 3: He loves it. Man, It's fun to watch. You know,
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  Speaker 3: that's an alpha dude, a competitor. You know, he probably
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  Speaker 3: needs to, you know, take care of himself, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a little bit better on some of those some of
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  Speaker 3: those scrambles, some of those runs where he's out there
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  Speaker 3: putting his shoulder now.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit.
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  Speaker 3: But look, it's hard not to love the way he
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  Speaker 3: plays the game and the passion that he has for it.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to his interview after the game, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: was all about just loving the opportunity with his guys,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought that was awesome. Now for the Dolphins,
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  Speaker 3: this was a serious lack of situational football awareness. They
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're all over the place, really And Mike
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  Speaker 3: McDaniel said that this loss really comes down to the
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  Speaker 3: way they played on off in the red zone that
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  Speaker 3: you could certainly say that the fumbled snap right there
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  Speaker 3: that you saw. I mean, look, it's unfortunate Connor Williams.
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  Speaker 3: The center goes down. Lee Mikenberg comes in there, but
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  Speaker 3: he's played some center before I know two is said afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't get a lot of snaps with Eikenberg, but he's
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  Speaker 3: played some center in the absence of Connor Williams this season.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that that should cause that much of
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  Speaker 3: an issue on a in a pivotal situation there where
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  Speaker 3: you're about to put points on the board. Instead the
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  Speaker 3: Titans are able to thwart that scoring opportunity. And then
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  Speaker 3: you had you know, you go back to the end
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  Speaker 3: of it, right where you had the hold on Iikenberg
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  Speaker 3: on a third down play that allows the Titans to
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  Speaker 3: keep one of their timeouts right stops the clock saves them,
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  Speaker 3: you know, thirty forty seconds right there. Then you had
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  Speaker 3: the delay of game on sealer right on defense. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they were talking about it on the MANU cast as
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  Speaker 3: he was calling out the snap.
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  Speaker 4: Count, you know, which is obviously you can't do.
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  Speaker 3: And so you know, you get one of those kind
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  Speaker 3: of odd ball penalties at the end of a game,
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  Speaker 3: just like we saw in that Chiefs Bills game, but.
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  Speaker 4: Still happened there.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know, you go back to the red
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  Speaker 3: zone offense, DJ and I'll come to you on this here,
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  Speaker 3: because McDaniel's talking a lot about, you know, those last
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  Speaker 3: couple of possessions.
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  Speaker 4: I think where they.
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  Speaker 3: Were able to you know, those last two touchdowns they scored,
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  Speaker 3: they were in the red zone and they ran the
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  Speaker 3: ball on every play. Meanwhile, on the previous two red
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  Speaker 3: zone possessions they threw the ball in almost every play
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  Speaker 3: and end up settling for two field goals. So the
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  Speaker 3: questions like, well, why didn't you just run it? Well,
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  Speaker 3: I guess it's a little bit more complicated than that.
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  Speaker 3: But definitely for a team that's as good as they
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  Speaker 3: are on the ground in those situations, you'd like to
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  Speaker 3: think that they could rely on that a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple things. Number One, it is a good
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  Speaker 2: Titans front.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I know the Titans aren't where they
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  Speaker 1: want to be right now, but that defensive front is
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  Speaker 1: a strength of their football team. And so you had
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  Speaker 1: that factor. And then go back and watching the tape
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  Speaker 1: this morning, it was just sloppy. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: are the word to use. I mean, you think about
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  Speaker 1: two oh with them, you got this issue with the center,
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  Speaker 1: You've got the fumble snaps, You've got him slipping falling down.
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  Speaker 1: He kind of ran himself into a sack like it
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  Speaker 1: was just sloppy all the way around the board for.
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  Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins.
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  Speaker 1: On the Will Levis thing, want to give him credit
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  Speaker 1: those last two drives watching that tape this morning. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to get to the Giants game. But two of
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  Speaker 1: the bigger plays for both those teams the exact same play.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of had a levels concept and you got a
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  Speaker 1: corner route and they both hit the corner. Both the
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  Speaker 1: rookies were able to hit the corner route, and it
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  Speaker 1: was a big game for him and.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of got their thing going a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But look, check the ball down, use the backs, pop
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  Speaker 1: a screen, and then eventually when you get your opportunities
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  Speaker 1: down the field, he hits Hopkins on a deep over.
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  Speaker 1: He had a corner route. So Will Evis did a
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  Speaker 1: nice job in the big moments of the game. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it also shows you as a rookie, I
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  Speaker 1: want to be the first pick. You all want to
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  Speaker 1: be a top five pick. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: it's more important, Go go to the better team, Go
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  Speaker 1: where you've got some infrastructure in place. I think that
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  Speaker 1: was a good spot for him. I think he's got
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  Speaker 1: a chance to be a starting quarterback in this league
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  Speaker 1: for quite some time. But Buck, we'll go around the
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  Speaker 1: horn quick one more time here the other point on
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  Speaker 1: this one, and it'll catch up to where we go
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  Speaker 1: to the next game.
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  Speaker 2: Be a good bridge for us. This was just upset week.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a seventheen game season, and it just
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  Speaker 1: felt like game after game after game you had the
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  Speaker 1: team that was the better team, the favorite team, just
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  Speaker 1: not playing clean football. And it showed you in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL you got to show up every week.
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  Speaker 2: Man. There's no you know, there's no directional schools on
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  Speaker 2: an NFL schedule.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. No.
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  Speaker 6: I think what it shows is, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 6: the league in general, there's not a dominant team, and
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  Speaker 6: so the playoffs are going to be fascinating because it
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  Speaker 6: won't be the best team that all the punches their
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  Speaker 6: ticket to Super Bowl fifty eight. It will be the
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  Speaker 6: team that is the hottest team down the stretch. And
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  Speaker 6: the AFC in particular, when you look at the top,
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  Speaker 6: you have the Baltimore Ravens. But the Baltimore Ravens could
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  Speaker 6: have easily been knocked off by the LA Rams if
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  Speaker 6: not for a very dramatic and spectacular pump returned That
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  Speaker 6: was also little bit a bunch of penalties, but that's
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  Speaker 6: neither here nor there. Kansas City dropping games Miami, the
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  Speaker 6: Jacksonville Jaguars, and so really, if you're a coach, you
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  Speaker 6: stand in front of the team today and you're just saying, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 6: if we just get into the tournament, we got as
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  Speaker 6: good a shot as any team to doing it, because
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  Speaker 6: a lot of it is matchups and how will you
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  Speaker 6: play on that given day.
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  Speaker 5: It's gonna be interesting to see how.
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  Speaker 6: These playoffs turn out because I don't know if you
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  Speaker 6: can really bank on anybody being the favorite as it
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  Speaker 6: comes down to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean think about unexpected results. Well, we got
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  Speaker 1: one in the game here. I Rett is just he's
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  Speaker 1: he's literally twitching. He wants to talk about this so bad.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go to Rhett first on this one.
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  Speaker 1: The the Veto magic, I mean, look, the agent was interesting,
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  Speaker 1: that was entertaining, But give the Vito credit for what
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  Speaker 1: he did on the field when they needed a fourth
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  Speaker 1: quarter drive. They get it done, they get it went
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  Speaker 1: over the Green Bay Packers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was talking to my buddies in Boston and
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  Speaker 3: obviously worked there for five years, and Sean Stillado is
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  Speaker 3: from that area. And there's definitely some stories about some
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  Speaker 3: some fun stuff that that he's done and support of
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  Speaker 3: his clients.
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  Speaker 4: It was just pretty cool and this was.
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  Speaker 3: Its just like every everyone was kind of like all
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  Speaker 3: in on it, right. I Mean, you had him up
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  Speaker 3: there with the dad and they're all and like, it's
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  Speaker 3: just like this fun domenon right now. Like honestly, think
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  Speaker 3: about this, like it feels like Lynn's sanity back when
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  Speaker 3: Jeremy Lynn was playing with the Knicks.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's like Tommy DeVito has just like found you know,
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  Speaker 3: has struck gold here with the Giants. And I think
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  Speaker 3: they're doing a good job with him, and he's playing
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  Speaker 3: well well enough to win these games. Let's let's give
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  Speaker 3: him the credit too. But I think Brian Able, you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of like the way, you know, we've been talking
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  Speaker 3: about the way that Zach Taylor in the Bengals have
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  Speaker 3: put Jake Browning in a good position, I think Brian
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  Speaker 3: Dable and the Giants have done the same thing. They
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  Speaker 3: ran for two hundred yards last night, and Tommy Devido
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  Speaker 3: was responsible for seventy of them.
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  Speaker 4: I did not.
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  Speaker 3: See that really being a huge factor for him when
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  Speaker 3: I watched him. You know that last year at Illinois,
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  Speaker 3: that mobility ten carries seventy one yards a lot of
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  Speaker 3: most of them are on scrambles, but the one design
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  Speaker 3: Ronnie Dangniers scored on made a terrific move in the
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  Speaker 3: secondary for extra yards. Now, look, they're taking care of him.
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  Speaker 3: In the past game a little bit. You know, twelve
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  Speaker 3: of his completions were within five yards of the line
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  Speaker 3: of scrimmage or behind it. He only completed one. He
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  Speaker 3: only really threw one ball beyond twenty yards in the air,
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  Speaker 3: and it was a flea flicker they probably shouldn't have thrown,
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  Speaker 3: but ends up getting completed anyway, because why not. We're
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  Speaker 3: in d Vito mania right here. So I just think that, like,
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  Speaker 3: outside of that one play, he doesn't really play outside
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  Speaker 3: of himself. He kind of understands what's being asked of him,
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  Speaker 3: and then when he needs to make a big time
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  Speaker 3: throw bang he made it. Isaiah Hodgens for that touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: As you were talking about earlier like that, Look it's fun,
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  Speaker 3: like live it up while it lasts, like who knows
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  Speaker 3: how long it's gonna last, but let's enjoy the ride.
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  Speaker 5: Look, this is this is a great story.
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  Speaker 6: It's a great story for Tommy DeVito because you talk
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  Speaker 6: about him at Illinois, but watching Timmy DeVito says he
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  Speaker 6: was in high school, played a Don Bosco right there
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  Speaker 6: in jurors, big time program, was a big time recruit
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  Speaker 6: that went to Syracuse for whatever reason, didn't work out there,
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  Speaker 6: finishes up at Illinois. But what I've seen is the
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  Speaker 6: talent has always been there, Like this was a I guy,
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  Speaker 6: it was a four or five star recruit.
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  Speaker 5: He is showing up with the arm talent you see
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  Speaker 5: in the athleticism. The one thing that strikes me is
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  Speaker 5: the likability.
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  Speaker 6: There's something that he presents, he projects that allows his
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  Speaker 6: teammates to really gravitate to him. When you see him
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  Speaker 6: after the game with sa kuon Barkle, you see Dexter
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  Speaker 6: Lawrence with him, there is something about him that he's
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  Speaker 6: just kind of the guy.
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  Speaker 5: And Look, I.
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  Speaker 6: Think it's one of the things that when we're doing
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  Speaker 6: quarterback evaluations, maybe we need to dig a little deeper.
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  Speaker 6: And see like that character, how they get along, how
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  Speaker 6: they interact with their teammates, because as much as we
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  Speaker 6: talk about it being a talent position, it's a leadership
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  Speaker 6: position and you have to be able to connect with
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  Speaker 6: their teammates. Tommy DeVito has connected and that's one of
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  Speaker 6: the reasons as a rookie backup, he's been able to.
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  Speaker 5: Have a lot of success with the New York Giants.
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  Speaker 1: Down on the other side of things, guys, the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Packers turn the ball over again, sloppy.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of the theme for the week.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at these teams are the favorite teams
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  Speaker 1: and games they should probably win.
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  Speaker 2: They don't protect the football.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what gave Tommy DeVito the opportunity to go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and win this ball game. But watching at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the game, right you talked about the throws
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  Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage again, when you can run
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  Speaker 1: the ball with the young quarterback, when you can run
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  Speaker 1: it and when you can give them easy completions, and
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  Speaker 1: I did not understand what Green Bay was doing defensively,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, at the end of the game, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: get up and challenge these guys a little bit. They
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  Speaker 1: just let them kind of easily get down the field
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  Speaker 1: in field position and in field goal position. Didn't make
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  Speaker 1: any sense to me whatsoever there. So anyways, go ahead, RTT,
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  Speaker 1: and I ask.
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  Speaker 3: You you guys, I mean this question because look, and
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  Speaker 3: no one's trying to put a wet blanket on what's
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  Speaker 3: been a lot of fun to watch here with Tommy DeVito.
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  Speaker 3: But like, let's let's understand you know, this scenario here
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  Speaker 3: because we all kind of got caught up in Josh
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  Speaker 3: Dobbs mania for a while with the Arizona Cardinals and
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  Speaker 3: then again with the Minnesota Vikings, and now we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about him probably heading back to the bench here at
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  Speaker 3: some point. Like it's great when these guys come out
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  Speaker 3: and perform when they're giving their opportunities when their team
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  Speaker 3: needs them to perform. But I mean, ultimately, like we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to go into next season probably with Tommy
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  Speaker 3: DeVito as the starting quarterback here, right, I mean, like
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  Speaker 3: there's there's there's I mean, obviously you paid a lot
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  Speaker 3: of money with Daniel Jones, but I mean, is is
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  Speaker 3: this formula sustainable? I guess DJ is what I'm asking
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  Speaker 3: here with a quarterback like the veto for these giants
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  Speaker 3: is they're just sitting here, you know, a game back
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  Speaker 3: of the seventh wildcard spot here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think the difference now is we live in a
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  Speaker 1: world where brock Purty exists. So you know, whether or
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  Speaker 1: not you agree with it or not, these guys are
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  Speaker 1: going to be given a chance. They're going to be
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  Speaker 1: given a longer lease to see. It's opened your mind up, Buck,
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  Speaker 1: if you're looking at any situation now, because after brock
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  Speaker 1: Perty's first good game, when he was he was thrown
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  Speaker 1: into the mix, it.
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  Speaker 2: Was, oh, that's kind of cute me.
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  Speaker 1: This is multi can Maybe this is like a case Keenum,
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  Speaker 1: a little little three four game magic here they found
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  Speaker 1: a little something, But no thought in your mind this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be the future at the position.
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  Speaker 2: I think that.
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  Speaker 1: I think the brock Purty situation changes things for guys
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  Speaker 1: liked Vito. I don't know that he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to maintain this level of play, but you got
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  Speaker 1: to keep in mind open and the thought that if
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  Speaker 1: he does, then it changes your thinking.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look at DJ, I'm with you on that. I
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  Speaker 5: think you have to be open to it.
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  Speaker 6: You have to be open to a situation where to
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  Speaker 6: Pep is that a player really works well within the system.
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  Speaker 6: Now a lot of this is Brian Dave Ball and
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  Speaker 6: Mike Afa doing a great job of setting Tommy DeVito
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  Speaker 6: up for success, But somebody falls on Tommy DeVito playing
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  Speaker 6: within his limitations, not trying to do too much, understanding
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  Speaker 6: how to play the game, situational awareness in those things.
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  Speaker 6: He has done it and we have seen him get
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  Speaker 6: better and better and better. Look, he's three and one
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  Speaker 6: as a starting quarterback for the New York Giants, and
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  Speaker 6: the Giants were struggling. I'm not saying that he should
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  Speaker 6: be the starter, but certainly in a league that is
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  Speaker 6: devoid of quarterback depth, he certainly has earned the right
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  Speaker 6: to be on the Giants going forward as they continue
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  Speaker 6: to develop him and just kind of see where the
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  Speaker 6: possibly possibilities end up.
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  Speaker 1: And no doubt, it's been a fun story. It's been
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: fun to watch on the field, but also a fun story.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: The NFL does an unbelievable job of giving the public
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: something new, something you never thought you think about, or
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: a storyline that just came out of left field.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: This year, right now, the last month, it's Tommy DeVito.
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  Speaker 2: So enjoy it. Why last?
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully the ride continues on a little bit longer for
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: the Giants.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. We come back.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: We're gonna jump into our rookie scores from last week.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: See how we're doing. I think it's a pretty close race.
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  Speaker 1: We'll jump into that right after this. The Saturday Showdown
• 14:17
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• 14:21
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• 14:24
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• 14:34
  Speaker 1: streaming on NFL Plus. All right, let's get into the
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: rookie draft. We do this each and every week on
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: the show. We look back first before we look forward.
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  Speaker 2: Guys.
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  Speaker 1: Last week, Buck had a strong week. He's very much
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: back into the mix. Here, Will Levis gets him the
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: three points. Then he picks up a second place finish,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: finished with Jamiir Gibbs and pukin Nakua. RHTT got three
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: points off a Zay Flowers tough look on the cg
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: stret out injury. By the way, I was able to
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: secure the three points at the running back position for
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Bijon and a point for Aidan O'Connell, which I don't
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: know how that happened.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: They got shut out.
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  Speaker 1: But right now that puts Buck He's only six behind me,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: or sorry, RTT six behind me. Bucky is seven behind me.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are right there. As we got to week fifteen,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: all right, it's my turn to go first, guys, and
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: c J. Stroud has been the number one pick for
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: quite some time now, but because as we're recording, this
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't look great for him after the hit last week.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go back to what we used to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: do at the beginning of the year when we were
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: doing this rookie draft, and I'm going to go Buck
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: with Bijon Robinson with my first pick, hoping to pick
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: up those three points as they play the Carolina Panthers, which,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: by the way, I've been getting roasted on Twitter because
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: people have found a draft a tweet where I said
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers with this new look offense could win
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: ten games, and guys, alert, they.
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  Speaker 2: Will not be winning ten games. They have one part
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: I went back in aut uh I was you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was draft day they had Bryce Young.
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  Speaker 2: This is the thing.
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  Speaker 1: They won seven games last year. I'm like, Okay, Bryce Young.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I like Bryce Young, He's good.
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  Speaker 2: And then oh you know, and maybe with.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Miles Sanders and Feeland they had him into the mixt year,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: maybe they can get more wins this Young defense. Yeah,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: that was not a great take a right, that's been
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: brought back to light. Not a great not a great
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  Speaker 1: set up there. But I'll go bijon against that uh,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: that illustrious Carolina Panthers team with my first pick.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: Oh wow, Okay, I'm up.
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  Speaker 6: So let let me let me grab a running back
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: real quick, since I don't leave rihtt to find somebody.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: So I'm gonna take Gibbs from the Detroit line of
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: this CF He has a week this week, see if
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: he can.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: Get up and go on, and we'll let uh uh.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Read kind of dig around the bargain basement to see
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: if he can find a running back.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: With his choice.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, uh, no problem.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna leave my running back for the last
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: overall pick, which is also mine in this draft. Don't
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: need to take one here. What I will take is
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the first quarterback off the board. And I mean, guys,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: it's it's Will Levis, right, It's it's it's got to
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: be Will coming off his performance. I mean, like Defto's
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: winning games. Is he putting up numbers?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Is the numbers game in the fantasy draft? Plus going
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: down in New Orleans?
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: In the Dome?
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: You know who knows who knows there? I did consider
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: a revenge game possibility here with Jake Browning going back
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: to the team that I think originally signed him in
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Consider that it's like it's ninth year in the LEA.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: That's right, sorry, first time starter, all right, scratch it,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: scratch it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Give me Will Levis, Will Levis, Gosh, tough crowd.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Over here, Will Levis, and then I'll get my my
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: first choice receivers.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna take.
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  Speaker 7: Next like you should be a rookie though, Okay, it
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: feels like it right, nice, all right, So I'm gonna
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: take God Save Flowers was good for me this last week,
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: going up against Bucky's Jaguars here in a big game
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: in the AFC.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Man, I think, though, I'm gonna go Pooka at home
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: against the Commanders here, and that Commander's team is has
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: been rough on the defensive edge.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Give me Pooka. With my back to back pick here,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Pooka and Levis.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Oh wow, Okay, there we go.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: So look, I'm look, I'm maybe a little recent recency bias.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Tommy DeVito, Tommy DeVito saying, my
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: guy's hot, he's popping. The Giants are back there in
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: the playoff mix. Everything is exciting. So I'm digging it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: I'm digging it all in New York.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: All right, DJ back to back?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Huh all right, I'm uh yeah, I've got back to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: backs here. Let's see, I've got the Ravens against the Jags.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I do like picking players that are playing against Bucky's
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: team when Bucky's in the building, because I like him
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to be on the sideline see a big play and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: just have it hurt doubly.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with a Flowers
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: with my uh, with my first pick.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: And then now I've got to go quarterback, guys, I'm
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: not loving available in the set up here.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, man, go back to if he got to
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the one point.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Aidan O'Connell in a gets a Chargers backed him thirteen
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: times and the last time they played. Uh, oh my goodness.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I watched Bryce last week. Guys, it was not good.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I can't do that. I don't I don't love this.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: But Aidan O'Connell got me a point last week. So
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm going back to back shut out last week.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe they score some maybe they score a touchdown. This week,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: we'll see aiden no car god.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: Internal conflict of calling the game, calling the game for
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: your team while hoping that the opponents.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: It's called conceding. It's called conceiting. It's conceding. I'm not
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: getting a point from the quarterback posession. I just concede.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Oh man, I get it that. That's that's tough. And
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: so what's also tough?
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: I saw Justin Jefferson get hit and we don't know
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: if he's going to play, So that would appear to
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: maybe elevate maybe Jordan Addison maybe.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Ads back in the lineup.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: Over the middle of the field. So let's go with
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: Jordan Addison. JJ is out. That means JA should be
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: able to get busy.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: It's interesting, Okay.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: So I just want to bring to light that Bucky
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: is starting an undrafted free agent quarterback over the number one.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Overall pick quarterback, which uh let that sick in for
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: a moment.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I'm not the only one to buy past number one overall. No,
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: that's true. That's true.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: But you're the only one that chose an undrafted free agent.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Just look.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, Devido is definitely out playing that status for sure,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and I think I would have done the same. So
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: final pick, I got to get a running back, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I feel like if Tyreek Hill is maybe a little
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: bit less, then maybe we get more.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: In this game.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: So let me go back to a Chan even though
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: he got me the big goose egg this week. So
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I go with Levis Puka.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: And a Chan on my squad. I like that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It's a good draft, solid draft right there. We'll see
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: how this shakes out this next week. Man, I not
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: love the quarterback options as we sit here in week fifteen.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to nurse the lead boys. I'm just
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: trying to just four minute offense, four minute offense. Just
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: try and get a point or two and hold on.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to do is hold on, and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: we'll see if the quarterback options get better as the
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: year goes along. Not loving it where we are right now,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: that's for sure, all right, that's gonna do it for
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: us today. I want to encourage you guys to be
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: with us Tomorrow. We're gonna look a little bit deeper
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: at the AFC Playoff picture, looking at some of these teams.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: We're buying, some we're not so sure of. We'll jump
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: into that tomorrow, but that'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: For us today. We appreciate you hanging with us right
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: here on. Move the sticks.