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Mary Bonnet on Leaving "Selling Sunset" to Take Back Who She Really Is · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to I Choose Me.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to believe who is sitting with me
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  Speaker 1: right now. After nine seasons on Netflix's hit reality series,
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  Speaker 1: Selling Sunset, Mary Bonnet is reinventing herself, choosing herself, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, and recommitting herself to what she is so
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  Speaker 1: very passionate about. protecting animals. I am so happy to
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  Speaker 1: welcome Mary Bonnet.
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  Speaker 2: I love your tattoos. Oh, thank you. I just keep
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  Speaker 2: getting more.
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  Speaker 1: You do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I've always had a bunch, but they
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  Speaker 2: were always really small. And then I always tried to
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  Speaker 2: hide them from like for work. And then I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what happened. I was just like, you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: already done enough. I think I've established myself. If I
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  Speaker 2: want tattoos, I can have tattoos. Right? Really. So I
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  Speaker 2: started getting them and I got, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 2: got a, um, Something called, I forget. It's basically like
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  Speaker 2: henna for this one to make sure I actually liked
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  Speaker 2: it for a couple months before. Oh, that's beautiful. Floral. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I never, and I don't know what happened. I just
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  Speaker 2: kind of changed.
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  Speaker 1: It's really pretty. The loom.
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  Speaker 2: They're all beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Everyone has a story. Every one of
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  Speaker 1: them has a story. I love also the little foot one.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you said when you were doing real estate,
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to cover them up because I was scrolling
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  Speaker 1: through your Instagram last night and I was really kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, there's pictures of you where you're all buttoned up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And you look like a realtor. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Like my mom, my mom and my dad.
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  Speaker 2: Were both realtors.
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  Speaker 1: My mom more seriously. But I just remember those like,
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  Speaker 1: Photos she had to take for her business cards. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like all suit jacket and everything. Yep. Why do you
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  Speaker 2: have to look like that if you're a realtor? In LA,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you have to. And I just realized that.
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  Speaker 2: But in certain parts, I will still do it. Like
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  Speaker 2: in Bel Air, if it's an older couple or something,
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  Speaker 2: it's like I just kind of go with it.
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  Speaker 1: The client.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And in the hills, it's just like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: people would be uncomfortable probably if I did that. They're like,
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  Speaker 2: you're uptight.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I feel like, is everything okay?
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  Speaker 2: I know. Some of my clients that really know me,
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  Speaker 2: they're like, Mary, take your shoes off. I know that
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  Speaker 2: you want to be barefoot because I am like always barefoot.
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  Speaker 2: Take your shoes off, Mary. Look at me. I'm sitting
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  Speaker 2: crisscross here on my couch. Get comfortable. I'm serious.
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  Speaker 1: This is like a no. This couch is for only comfort.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And just chatting with my friend, my new friend. Yes. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I know you after doing research on you.
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  Speaker 2: What did the research tell you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just know all about, like, your time
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  Speaker 1: on Selling Sunset. I know, you know, I saw everything
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  Speaker 1: about your animal, your love for animals, and your just.
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  Speaker 2: Fun, vivacious energy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Which is so cool. I try to be.
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  Speaker 1: You recently got back from Bali, which I have, I've
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  Speaker 1: gone to Bali as well on like a self-exploration trip.
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  Speaker 1: But you have been organizing.
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  Speaker 2: You just finished one in September, right? Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How was it? The pictures were amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was my first one. And it
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  Speaker 2: was it was amazing. I will definitely do more. I
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  Speaker 2: think I'm going to do them on my own next
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  Speaker 2: time because I had a company that was kind of
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  Speaker 2: I went through them and there were too many restrictions.
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  Speaker 1: So you like advertise it and get people to sign
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  Speaker 1: up for it and then you facilitate you go with them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I go and I host it the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: So there were issues because of like the company. So
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  Speaker 2: I had to fix those a lot when I was there.
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  Speaker 2: So next time I know, especially if it's in Bali,
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  Speaker 2: I know Bali so well. I know so many like
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  Speaker 2: places there so I can facilitate all of that my own.
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  Speaker 2: and or myself and make more money too and have
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  Speaker 2: less problems if it simply sells maybe i need i'll
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  Speaker 2: do a different company maybe but um but i think
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  Speaker 2: if i did enough research i could just do it
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  Speaker 2: i travel all.
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  Speaker 1: The time i went um to bali with a group
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  Speaker 1: of strangers women that i didn't know you know he
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  Speaker 1: signed up did.
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  Speaker 2: You really did you like it i well.
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  Speaker 1: I one of the women that i that was run
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  Speaker 1: the woman that was running it i knew and i
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  Speaker 1: really trusted her okay and so um But I was
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  Speaker 1: really in like a– I needed to have some clarity.
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  Speaker 2: Space in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so I didn't really like join in on
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  Speaker 1: all the yoga and the like community activities. I was–
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  Speaker 1: off on my own, wandering the rice paddies, the little
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  Speaker 1: pathways through the field.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it healing?
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  Speaker 1: Going under the river, the bridge.
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  Speaker 2: There's something about the energy there. It's like, you don't
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  Speaker 2: even have to participate in any of organized activities or anything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're amazing when you do, but it's just
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  Speaker 2: the energy there is so healing and grounding. That's what
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  Speaker 2: I found. That's why I love it so much. After
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  Speaker 2: each season, I started going.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, good for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just like, get me out of here now.
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  Speaker 2: And I would go and I would just by day two,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I get it. I can just,
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  Speaker 2: I can just, I have like perspective and I felt calm. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I fell in love.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to find that in this city. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And definitely in the industry that you're in.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did you meet with healers? I did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I even went to Cthulhu. Do you know from Eat, Pray, Love?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: No? Have you ever seen Eat, Pray, Love?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So he's the medicine man. Okay. But it's his
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  Speaker 2: son now. Yeah. I don't want to say anything negative,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it's more gimmicky now. And it's all
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  Speaker 2: about because of the show. But I do have one
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  Speaker 2: guy and he is amazing. He told me stuff that
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  Speaker 2: last time that I was like, oh, I need to
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  Speaker 2: really like check myself and reevaluate like the direction I'm
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  Speaker 2: going in my life. Because everything he was saying was true.
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  Speaker 2: It was how I was feeling. It was what was
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  Speaker 2: going on.
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  Speaker 1: Just recently?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was a year and a half ago. And
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  Speaker 2: I saw him again on this one. And he started off,
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  Speaker 2: he does like all the numerology and different things, like
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is. And he's like doing stuff. And the
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  Speaker 2: first time he was like, what do you do?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, real estate.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, he's doing the numbers and stuff. He's like, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do for work?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I do real estate.
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, kept going. He's like, no, that's not it.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, I kept letting him go and go and go.
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  Speaker 2: And he was like, no, that's not what's doing this.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm on TV too. But he's like,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. Yeah. And so he said how unhealthy it is,
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  Speaker 2: the stress. And my cortisol is so high. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to kill you. Four years.
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  Speaker 1: It will kill you. And I was like, what?
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  Speaker 2: So this was.
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  Speaker 1: A year and a half ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you made it out alive. I made it
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  Speaker 2: out alive. And this time still, he's like... You, you're
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  Speaker 2: not as, you're not as stressed, but you still need
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  Speaker 2: to stop. Your brain works too much. He's like, you
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  Speaker 2: need to stop it. And it affects your gut. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I feel like I'm looking in the
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  Speaker 1: mirror right now.
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  Speaker 2: Right? I'm like, it really, you get told that and
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  Speaker 2: you know it. Like deep down you know it, but
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  Speaker 2: someone else like.
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  Speaker 1: Tells you that... That doesn't know you from anything.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh. Had no idea. Right. And he's in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of a jungle. Like, I had no clue. And he
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  Speaker 2: could tell me, like, it was... I was so stressed out.
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  Speaker 2: It was going to kill me. And I kept saying
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  Speaker 2: that to my sister. I was like, I think this
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  Speaker 2: show's going to kill me. Like, because I.
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  Speaker 1: It was just so.
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  Speaker 2: So much anxiety about all the conflict and everything. I
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  Speaker 2: just don't do well with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to... I want to talk all about
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  Speaker 1: the show and about, you know, this... exciting new chapter
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  Speaker 1: for you because you left the show and I'm, I'm
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  Speaker 1: really excited for you, but I just think that, you know, talking,
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  Speaker 1: our listeners maybe have never gone to Bali or have
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to Bali. What would you recommend
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  Speaker 1: to them? Like if they can't go just on a
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  Speaker 1: whim to Bali, like, what do you, what have you
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  Speaker 1: learned from going to Bali?
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  Speaker 2: Like, You know what I have found? My sister always
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  Speaker 2: tells me grounding, like going outside, being barefoot in the
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  Speaker 2: grass and stuff, and that really helps. But what I
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  Speaker 2: found that really takes me out of my head, lowers
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  Speaker 2: my stress, and it just gives me a moment to
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  Speaker 2: breathe and focus on something else other than everything going
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  Speaker 2: on in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Pottery. Pottery.
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  Speaker 2: Well I have a lot of hobbies my my ADHD
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  Speaker 2: I'm like oh I want to try that oh I
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  Speaker 2: want to do this but pottery is one where I
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  Speaker 2: think I'd always wanted to do it I think after
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  Speaker 2: ghost like everybody imagining.
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  Speaker 1: You and Patrick Swayze for a moment I did too um.
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  Speaker 2: But it really works. Like, and I just bought a
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  Speaker 2: wheel on Amazon, had no idea how to do it,
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  Speaker 2: watch YouTube videos. And I just started trying. But there's
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  Speaker 2: something about just getting your hands in the clay and
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  Speaker 2: you can only focus on that one thing. And it's
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  Speaker 2: so just calming because the wheel's just going and you're
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  Speaker 2: just like focused just on that, just trying to keep
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  Speaker 2: it up, trying to mold it and everything else goes away.
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  Speaker 1: That's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Even for like 30 minutes, I would give myself
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  Speaker 2: a 30-minute break from whatever I was doing. If I
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  Speaker 2: had a deadline, I was super stressed out. If I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to solve some problem from how was I
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  Speaker 2: going to handle something, just go do it. Get clarity.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing's going to happen in 30 minutes. Yeah. And so
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  Speaker 2: I would go do it. And I could come back
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  Speaker 2: so much clearer headed and so much more calm.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great hack right there. Yeah. That's good for
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  Speaker 1: people to know. Why do you think that like traveling
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  Speaker 1: with a group of women is important, even if it's
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  Speaker 1: strangers in my case? Yeah. Even if it's like your girlfriends?
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  Speaker 2: There's a support system there. Yeah. I think that everyone
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  Speaker 2: is going through something and we're all so caught up
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  Speaker 2: in our own lives and our own issues that we
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  Speaker 2: forget that the person sitting next to us is typically
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  Speaker 2: going through something. They're stressed out and stuff like that too.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there's just power in numbers. And if
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  Speaker 2: most people that go on things like that, you're all
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  Speaker 2: looking for something. You're looking for clarity, community, just to
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  Speaker 2: figure things out.
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  Speaker 1: Purpose in life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Big things sometimes. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the people there next to you, you
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  Speaker 2: never know. So somebody always has something to offer. And
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  Speaker 2: so the person there on the trip with you might
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  Speaker 2: just become like a lifelong friend or might have advice
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  Speaker 2: or an experience that you're like, Wow. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And you never would have met them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it was. I mean, for me, when I
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  Speaker 1: did it, it was such a crazy, like last minute spontaneous.
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  Speaker 1: My kids are with their dad. I can go. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to do this. I'll get my ticket. We leave tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: And it was one of the most like eye opening
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  Speaker 1: and just like beautiful experiences of my life with myself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And God bless the woman that took me, Jennifer. She
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  Speaker 1: let me just do my own thing. And I kind
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  Speaker 1: of joined in when it was, you know, felt right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I also made some, you know, really nice connections
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  Speaker 1: with women while I was there, which I hadn't really
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  Speaker 1: done before in my life, especially strangers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I don't know them. You don't
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  Speaker 2: want to let people in. But I think there's something
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  Speaker 2: about going on trips like that, that you can let
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  Speaker 2: your guard down and you realize there's, It's not that scary.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, sometimes. Sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: It's true because every time I talk to a group
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  Speaker 1: of women, there is like this sort of secret longing
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  Speaker 1: for community. Yeah. And it's, you know, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: put yourself out there. Yeah. It's hard to be the
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  Speaker 1: one to make the first move. Have you ever gone
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  Speaker 1: up to somebody who you just had a feeling about
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  Speaker 1: and been like, hey, do you want to be friends?
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  Speaker 1: Not normally, but I was actually, it was funny.
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  Speaker 2: I was at.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was at a safe kind of place,
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  Speaker 2: but it was Jason's house down in the O.C. and
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  Speaker 2: there was a birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Party and we were getting, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know, our nails done or something. They had all
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  Speaker 2: these little setups and things. And there was a girl
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  Speaker 2: sitting next to me. I was like, I like you.
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  Speaker 2: She's had such good energy and she was just so sweet.
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  Speaker 2: And there was just something about her. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I want to be your friend. And it was like
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  Speaker 2: the first time I've ever even said anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, hi, you know, and then like stay
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  Speaker 2: in my little corner.
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  Speaker 1: So did you guys become friends?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we don't talk every day, but I've
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  Speaker 2: seen her around. We texted each other a couple of times.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, haven't really kept followed up on it. But
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  Speaker 2: when we saw each other a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my God, it would give each
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  Speaker 2: other a big hug.
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  Speaker 1: I know you have close girlfriends. What are your tips
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  Speaker 1: for great friendships in adulthood?
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  Speaker 2: Just being supportive and always telling the truth. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: I always feel like a real friend calls you on
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  Speaker 2: your shit. And there's so many people pleasers. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a people pleaser normally, but I'm like, if my
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  Speaker 2: friend isn't going to tell me, like when I'm messing
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  Speaker 2: up or when I.
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  Speaker 1: Need to like, whatever, like I need to Check yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Get my head out of my ass. It's like, who's
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  Speaker 2: going to? And then just people that are there, not
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  Speaker 2: just for the good times.
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  Speaker 1: And I just had to.
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  Speaker 2: Do this not too long ago with somebody that was
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  Speaker 2: a friend for a very long time. And I just
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  Speaker 2: realized that it was a one-way street. And they were
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  Speaker 2: only there when it was a really fun time, so
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  Speaker 2: when I could do something for them. And There was
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  Speaker 2: not time for even a text just to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: how are you? When I was going through something like
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  Speaker 2: really big, I'm like, I don't have time for this
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  Speaker 2: right now. Just when your drama's over, let me know. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is too many years this has been going on.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, this one was too big. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, no.
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  Speaker 1: I think, yeah. I think we all come to an
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  Speaker 1: age where we're like, it's time to trim the fat.
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  Speaker 1: There are problems. And not in a literal sense, but
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  Speaker 1: like just friendships that aren't serving us anymore. That maybe
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  Speaker 1: did one day. Yep. We all change.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there are, I just don't want people
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  Speaker 2: in my life just for the sake of having them
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  Speaker 2: in my life. I want real people and people that
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  Speaker 2: are on the same page and just a positive thing
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  Speaker 2: in my life. I don't, I just don't need the other, like,
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  Speaker 2: just random people anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've come to the place where I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have time for that anymore. Like, I just
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  Speaker 1: want goodness. I want happy.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I want meaningful. I want, you know, if there's a conflict,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about it in, like, grown-up way. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't have time for games anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I know. It's something I think when you get to
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  Speaker 2: a certain age and you're like, I'm tired of it.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I can't do it anymore. You're in your 40s, right?
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  Speaker 2: 46. 46.
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  Speaker 1: Great year.
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  Speaker 2: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That whole perimenopause thing, no one talked about this before. No.
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  Speaker 2: And it needs to be talked about because it blindsided me.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Really. Oh my God. I can relate. Especially if
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  Speaker 1: you have no idea what's happening.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I thought I was going crazy. I thought I went
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: and got my brain. I got a brain scan.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: So did I. Really?
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't remember anything. I think I
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: have Alzheimer's. Somebody help me.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: In ADHD, it makes it like a thousand times worse.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: My medication wasn't working. I would just go walk into
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: a room. Like I walk in the kitchen and I'm
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: just walk in circles almost like, wait.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: What was I doing?
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: And walk back around like, like Zora, like, oh, what
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: was I doing?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: What was I doing? What is that? Because how does,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the loss of estrogen to our brain apparently,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: but it's so, it's like a universal thing that happens
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to so many women. You walk in a room, you're like,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: what the hell am I doing?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I do it all the time. I probably already did
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: it twice today. So frustrating.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: But then I just stop and I'm like, what did
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I come in here for? And I like force myself
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: to remember.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, I just get distracted. And I'm like, oh, what
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: did I? Oh. And I see something else. I'm like, squirrel.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And I go, something else. And two hours later, I'm like,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I think I was supposed to be doing something.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I forget to even look at my calendar in the morning.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I'm lucky I'm even here.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Like I just get up, start taking care of the dogs.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what I do.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Just start walking around. I'm like, what is today?
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Like, I've become kind of.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Dumb, I think. I'm like, when is this going to
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: go away?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: It's just this season of life that is so uncharted
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and so unique to every individual.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: But I think, are you working with like a doctor
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: or a homeopath?
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've tried to get on some of the hormones.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I'm doing a.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Lot of peptides as well.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Peptides.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: What do you take? I'm terrified to take peptides. I mean,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: it's not.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Regulated, so you have to make sure you go to
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: a place where they have third-party testing. It's U.S. labs,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: third-party testing, because they don't require it. The FDA isn't
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: involved with peptides yet.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's so scary. What do you do?
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: You have to be very careful.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: How did you get on the peptide wagon?
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I heard all about it, but then I just
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: started doing research. And I had... I had a company
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: reach out to me and see if I wanted to
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: partner with them. And so that's actually how I started
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: looking into it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, who, who is it? Like basically.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: And so, and when they started going through like what
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: they do, I made me like realize what they should,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: what people should be doing. So I started checking other
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: companies to see, okay, who does this? Who doesn't? And
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: what do the other companies like offer that this one's
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: not offering to make sure it was good. And it
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: was very good. They had really, good quality products and stuff.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: And I had great results from them.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? What results?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: What happened to you? I'm so curious.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I take BPC-157. Oh, my.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And then I take that one. I take NAD, glutathione,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: vitamin B12, somoroline.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I believe it's called.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And you just.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Is that like in a little cocktail and you just...
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: There's multiple vials. Multiple needles. Okay. Yeah. I'm not scared
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: of needles.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: No? No, they're so tiny. Sometimes I do, and I
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: always laugh at myself when I do. I just get,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, nervous and wake up and I'm like, one, two, three, go, one, two, three, go.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And I can't do it. And then other times I'm
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: just like, you don't even feel it. It's like a
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: little diabetic needle. What about the hormone therapy? It didn't
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: work very well for me. I didn't respond to it.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I need to– I gained so much weight. And I
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: asked her if it was going to make me gain weight.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: She said, no, probably not more than like five pounds
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: or so. No, I gained like 15 pounds. And so
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: then one of the other peptide things then I took– Uh,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to his appetite to like, try to get that off
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and up stuff works amazing. I mean, just knock the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: weight right off. And so then, but then I can't
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: go back on, on the hormones. So I'm trying to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: figure out what to do now. It's like a work
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: in progress.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: It's a balancing act.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: And like I said, it's so individual.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're getting help though, like because so
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: many of us just like raw dogged it. Like we didn't,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you know, nobody was talking about it and nobody knew
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: what was happening. But now it's such a great conversation
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that all the women are having. Yeah. That we're educating
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: one another. We're educating the next generation of young women.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: So it won't be this like weird.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: It's a big thing. Like you're like confused at what's wrong.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Everyone's not getting their brain. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: in their late 30s and stuff, I'm like, okay, listen,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: get ready because this is going to be coming. Okay.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Do not think you're crazy. Just be prepared.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Be prepared.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Knowledge is power when it comes to that, man.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: So going back to the traveling thing, I have a friend,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Jen Hatmaker, and she once a year goes on a
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: trip by herself all alone for a month. I love that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Have you ever done anything like that?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Not for a month. I've gone away. I do go
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: away when I get really stressed out. I will, or
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: if I'm really confused about something. I did it when
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I was with Romaine, basically, when we first started dating.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And I was just tripping myself out about, I don't know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I was scaring myself, like where I started getting cold
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: feet and stuff. I don't know why. And I was
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: everything that he was doing was annoying me. And, and,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: but I knew he wasn't actually doing anything. I was just,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I was just causing.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You were trying to burn down your house.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And Jason was like, what are you doing? Like, he's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: not doing anything. Jason's your best friend. Yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's, he's, um, yeah, my best friend and then
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: broker and stuff on the show. But, um, uh, he's like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: what are you doing?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: He's like that. What, why are you getting irritated?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: He's not doing anything.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: He's like the best guy ever. It's like, I know.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing. Self-sabotage. Yeah. And so
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I just– I went away. I went to Solvang for like– No,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: stop it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: You went to Solvang?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I just picked a place. Where did you stay in Solvang?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I have lived up there in that area.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. It's so cute.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: For many, many years. I love it. What was the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: place called?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: It was right on that like little strip. It was
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: a really cute little place.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's nice up there.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was a little boutique hotel, like a really
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: cute place.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: But I just went there and just walked around. It
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: was in the fall.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I love fall, like where you just caramel apples and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: apple cider and stuff like that. And just walked around
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: eating fudge. And so I was like, it was just
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: like so weird, but I just needed time just to
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: get away and think, clear my head and just like
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: feel what I was feeling basically. And he was very supportive.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: He didn't understand it, but he's always very supportive of
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: anything I need. And And once I was able to
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: get away and I was able to just do that,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I think it totally worked. I came back and.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm good.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And so you've just celebrated your seventh wedding anniversary? Is
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: that right?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I think in March. Well, see, we have a marriage
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: anniversary and a wedding anniversary because we got legally married.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: A year before we had our wedding.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: That's fun. Yeah. Well, we didn't tell anybody, but it
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: was kind of a needed to. Yeah. Immigration kind of thing.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: But we were together.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: We were really together.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: But then we wanted to have, he had never been
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: married and wanted like a proper wedding so his mom
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: could see her baby boy get married, stuff like that.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: And so we planned it. And I think we're going to,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: next year will be 10 years. In March. Wow, 10.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I know. March 9th.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: You're married to a younger man. How much younger is he?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: 13 years.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. 13 years.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: You've beat me. He's closer to my son's age than …
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Because you have a son. You had a son very young.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. My son's 29. He'll be 30 in March.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I have a daughter who's 29 also. You do?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: So we must have … Oh, my God. I mean,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you're younger than me, but still young moms.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: In 97. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: How old were you? I was 24.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A little different.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: It's still young, though. I mean, in my opinion. You
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: were 16? I was 16. Yeah. I recommend everybody be
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: older than me. Well, actually, no, because it's hard. Like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to get pregnant, like, I guess, yeah, do it younger
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: because when you're actually ready, it's so hard.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: It is hard. People are waiting. You know, a lot
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of people are waiting, especially with the uncertainty in the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: world right now and, you know, just all the things.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: People are waiting to get pregnant. And that's, you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that's okay. And some people are choosing not to get
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: pregnant at all.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Which, kudos for knowing. My sister is one.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: She's like, she … I think she's known since she
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: was young that she just doesn't want kids. She got
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: out of her growling phase, but she used to like, like,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and growl at them almost. And I was like, Anna,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: don't growl at children. But now she's like, no, they're cute.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: But no thanks. Did you ever want another child?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I did at one point. I've had a lot of miscarriages,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and I didn't know why until recently. And I found
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: out when I was getting my brain scanned actually. I
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: did a full body scan and I found out that
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I have a septum in the middle of my uterus.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: So you have just one miracle baby.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: One miracle baby. And my husband, thank God, is okay
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: with that. We have our dog.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Babies and yeah, thankfully he's very understanding.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: But I had no idea. We got pregnant together and
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I miscarried.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Miscarriages are so common and people don't talk about them. Yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been through a few. It's hard. It's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: really hard. Can you share about your healing process? Ooh, yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: That one was, this one, I've had multiple.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: This one was, it really knocked me down. Especially because
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: it's with, you know, your love.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I really, I really wanted, I just switched
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: where I really wanted it so bad and I didn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: realize how bad it was. And it didn't even dawn
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: on me. Like I was so excited. It didn't, I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: forgot about all the other times I miscarried and I
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: was just so hopeful in my head, making all these plans. And,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and then I think doing it on the show as well. They,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: there was no time to grieve. There was no, they,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: they were rushing to my house and remain like right
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: from the, from the doctor's appointment, finding out they were
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: going to come and see the ultrasound picture. And Roman's like,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: don't you dare come over here. And they were like, no,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: we just want to, we have to be in the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: moment and catch it. He's like, come over and see
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: what happens. He's like, she needs a minute. And so
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: they came the next day, the next morning. Literally a minute.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: But at least I had like that night just to
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: just to figure it out. I think I was in
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: shock still, but I would say for about six months,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I would, I was a shell of myself. I just,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I would put on a smile and, and pretend everything,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: just go to work, go film, pretend, like pretend things
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: are okay. I think my book was coming out right
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: around then. I was trying to still do that and stuff.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And then I had to start talking about that. So
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: every time I would try to like let things go
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: and stuff, like, I would just have to talk about it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: And it was so raw because I just never, I
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: It was just, it was hard. It was very hard. Yeah. It's, it's,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it's happened so quickly. Like one second you're on top
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of the world and have all this hope and excitement. Yeah.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: And I don't know about for you, especially since we're
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: both with younger men, I felt like I needed to
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: have a baby for my husband because he didn't have
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a child. I had already had three. Yep. And you
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: already had your one. That's the same.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It was the same.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And so I thought, oh, he needs to have a child.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: He's such a great guy. He needs to be a father.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And I want to be the person to do that
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: And I was really attached to that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Which made it so much harder.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: He wanted a family. He wanted kids. And I thought
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it's so unfair not to give that to him. I mean,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I've been there, done that. But once I got pregnant,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: everything changed. Like, I wanted it so bad.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was hard. In retrospect, I mean, first
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: of all, how are you now with it?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I'm fine. I'm better now. Yeah. I try not to
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: think about it too much, but I'm okay now. I just,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I won't do it again because I know the outcome
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: now and at least I know that. But yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I look back now, this would have been We
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: would have had a preteen by now if our pregnancies
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: had made it. And I sometimes look back now at
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: this stage of my life and think, I'm actually pretty
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: grateful to have a baby. Yeah.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I've thought that about with my second husband, we did
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: in vitro because he had a blockage. And I was like, oh,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: good Lord. Thank God that didn't happen. Things happen for
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: a reason. And I still like.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I feel bad even saying that because it was, but
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I would be attached to him forever. And he was
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: a nightmare, an absolute nightmare.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, I'm so happy you're in a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: healthier relationship now. That means amazing. What have you learned
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: about relationships from maybe that nightmare or from your current
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: situation or all your personal work? Like what would you
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: tell your best friend is the most important thing when,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you know, in relationships?
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Trust. I think trust and letting each other just be
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: who they are. You're never going to change somebody. And
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: you have to just love them and accept them for
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: who they are and let them be themselves. Like if
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you try to hold them back or change like their personality,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: no one's ever going to be happy. That's who they are.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Be with them or don't. And you have to respect
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and love or sometimes tolerate. who it is, but that's
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: who they are. And so trying to change them, you're
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: only setting yourself up for disappointment.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: It's very true. I've tried to change it. Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: It doesn't work.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: It backfires.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I don't really know why.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You're lucky. Everybody's not so lucky and breakups are
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: really tough and you and I have both experienced them.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: What would you tell somebody that's going through a breakup?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Because I know your friend Oh, yeah. I mean, I
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: was reading about it. She just broke up with– Yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I mean, we haven't really kept in
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: touch since the show. But, I mean, she's an amazing human,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: just incredible energy and stuff. I don't know the details
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: of what happened or why, but I just, you know,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I can't give any insight on that. But I hope
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: that they're okay because breakups suck.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What would you– What have you learned about breakups
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that got you through it?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Okay. So I was just giving this advice to Sandra, actually.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: She was on the show as well. She just went
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  Speaker 2: through one. And I think that you always feel like
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  Speaker 2: you're never it's so consuming, like the pain and, and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: thinking about like what if, and, and what you could
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  Speaker 2: have done or what they did or the anger from
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: what they did or something like that, whatever the situation is,
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  Speaker 2: you feel like you're so consumed by it and so
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: overwhelmed by it. And you're never going to get out
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  Speaker 2: of that feeling, that heartbreak. And just think back to
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  Speaker 2: the last time. And, and the, cause I, I just
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: say like, have you, when was last time you guys had, had,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: broken up, like your ex, did you feel like this? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, did you make it through it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Did you like, do you want him back? No. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's like, okay, it's going to be the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: same thing. It's like, you don't know that now, but
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  Speaker 2: just keep that in mind. It's like, you always make
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  Speaker 2: it through. You stuck in the moment. It doesn't feel
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  Speaker 2: like it, but everything is temporary and this will be too.
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  Speaker 1: So. That's great perspective to have because when you're in it,
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  Speaker 1: you can't see. Right. the light.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, you can't. But it always passes. Everything does.
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  Speaker 2: It just takes time and it sucks in the meantime,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: but you'll get through it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: This is so true. Good advice. This is so much fun. Okay.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: We couldn't squeeze all of our conversation into just one episode.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: So come back for more. And until then, plan some
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: time away all by yourself. It doesn't have to be Bali.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: It can be taking yourself out to lunch. You deserve it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: See you soon.