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JFK Assassination - Ep. 289 - Don't Call It A Breakthrough · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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yod Shine. Here, how is je And here we go? And here
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we go? What's up? Everybody? Welcome to the show. This is
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episode number two hundred and eighty nine. Hang on a second. Let me
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get my banner flowing because it helps me. It's called don't call it a
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hopefully I can remember how to do this by myself. I think I'll be
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okay. I've done it a few times. But let's dive right in.
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So, before we dive into the topic of this show, I would be
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remiss if I didn't mention the passing of doctor Cyril Wecked. Wow. He
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passed away peacefully, probably in his sleep, at the age of ninety three
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on Monday, May thirteenth. That just happens to be the day that I'm
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recording this, and I wanted to share with you a personal memory of meeting
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doctor Cyril Weck in twenty fourteen at the conference. And man, I was
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just blown away by his what do you call it, his zest for life,
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you know, and he was an older guy at that time, you
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know, he was like eighty three. God, that was ten years ago,
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but man, he was still I don't know if you want to call
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him the lafe of the party. But you know, after after the conference
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was over and things migrated to the bar area, you know, I mean,
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he was holding court. Everybody wanted to talk to him, everybody wanted
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to hear his stories, and he was just very gracious with his time,
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very generous speaking with everyone, signing autographs, autographing books. He was great,
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great guy all around. And it was one of my pleasures of definitely
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meeting him in person and getting to shake his hand and getting a picture with
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him. You know, it was just one of those things, you know,
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I'll never forget. And it was a great time. And you know,
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he lived a good, long life. He led an amazing life,
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fantastic life, a very interesting life. You know, everybody knows Cyril Weck
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was a forensic pathologist. He was the Allegheny County Medical Medical Examiner. And
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not only you know, did he investigate the death of jfk. He also
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worked on, you know, the death of Elvis Presley, John Bena Ramsay,
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and the Nicole Smith, Gaby Pettito, Ellen Greenberg. You know,
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just the list goes on and on. He consulted for the Smiley Faced Killers.
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You know, he's he was in a lot of the top you know,
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he had an opinion on a lot of these well known, if you
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want to call him, celebrity autopsies. And Sarah Weck was the first ever
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civilian person permitted to examined the evidence from the assassination of John F. Kennedy
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at the National Archives and the first person to discover that the President's brain and
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related material was missing from the National Archives. You know. He was the
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nation's foremost critic of the Warren Commission's if miss single bullet theory. And I
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heard this for myself not only in twenty fourteen, but also in twenty nineteen.
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He was at that conference as well when he opened up for Oliver Stone,
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and he told everybody about his single bullshit theory. You know, that
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was one of his favorite things to talk about was a single bullshit theory and
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he could break it down like no other. So you know, rest in
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p Cyril Weckt, and know that you are a very important figure in the
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Kennedy assassination realm and that you will be missed, sir. And thank you
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for all of the contributions that you made to the case. And even in
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death, you were making headlines, national headlines around the world and bringing to
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light once again the ludicrous conclusions of the Warrant Commission and the JFK investigation.
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So once again, thank you, rest in peace. You served well and
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now you know the truth, sir. All right, so let's get into
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this. What me and Joe wanted to do originally was a break down a
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little bit of a movie that came out last year by John Hankey. It's
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called Breakthrough JFK Assassinations. You know how much we love you know how much
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we love these videos where people claim to have solved the JFK assassination. And
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John Hankey is no stranger to the JFK realm, having put out his Dark
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Legacy series. I believe it was Dark Legacy one, Dark Legacy two,
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otherwise known as JFK two, but that was quite a few years ago,
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and why he decided to come out last year with a film and I thought
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it had been wiped. I had it saved where it was, and I
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went back to get the movie and watch it again for this show, and
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it was gone, gone, gone gone. It was on a site called
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dark room, and it was gone. Like I said, it went dark.
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But I did man to find it on YouTube, and uh, I
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was able to rewatch it there. So we'll get through it. Don't worry
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now, let's see here. Let me move back over here because I got
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are you doing? What are you doing? Okay? That was my pandering
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ad there for it. Now. John Hankey is notoriously, I guess,
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famous for asserting that George W. HW. Bush Senior, or you know,
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senior George Bush, was behind the Kennedy assassination. And that's pretty much
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his old dark legacy theory. And I'm not gonna sit here and lay it
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all out for you. We are gonna look at some parts and pieces of
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it today, you know. So without further ado, I guess let's see
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if this works. Let us see if this will work. Okay, here
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we go. Hopefully you can hear this. This is Colonel Fletcher Proudy.
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We're going to see much more of him in a few minutes. He was
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one of the highest ranking CIA people at the Pentagon. One of the people
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he answered to was General Victor Krulock, a special assistant to JFK. Prouty
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and kru Lock were both positive that the man in this picture is CIA General
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Ed Lansdale, who they both knew well and worked with on a daily basis.
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Lansdale was in charge of Operation Mongoose, so he directly supervised Bush and
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Hunt as they worked with and directed the frontline killers. In this picture,
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Lansdale is in Dallas in Daley Plaza, walking deliberately close to these suspected shooters
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who had been arrested. Now let me pause it there for a second,
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just bring everybody up to speed. So this is a picture of the three
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tramps. This is allegedly in front of the what is not allegedly it's in
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front of the school book depository. This is the entrance for the trucks.
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And if you look at this figure right in the middle with the suit with
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the back of his head, you know, me and Doug always have that
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joke that you know you from a picture of the back of the head.
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This is Ed Lansdale hands down, blah blah blah. According to Fletcher Prouty
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blah blah blah. Now what's interesting is if you will look very closely at
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the shadow that is cast by this man on the diamond shape behind him.
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Okay, and if you look very closely, you will see that that that
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person is wearing glasses. Okay, I've never seen a picture of Ed Lansdale
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wearing glasses. Now people can say, oh, well it was a disguise.
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Well that's a pretty shitty disguise. If he has me and you know,
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people can say, well, I can tell by his gait. I
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can tell by he's wearing a ring on his finger that's from a CIA or
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military or a certain college or something. This photo means nothing. You cannot
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identify this man as Ed Lansdale, from the back of his head, from
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the back of his back, from the back of his suit, from his
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his clawlike hand, his gait. I mean, it's ridiculous, ridiculous,
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But let's continue behind the grassy knoll forcing them to walk around him. He's
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signaling to his lieutenants that as soon as they walk in the front door of
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the police station, it's all arranged to quietly sneak them out the back.
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The pieces make a pretty tight fit. All right, we'll get back to
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this part. But good lord, okay, we know who the tramps were.
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Okay, obviously this guy hasn't done any research since nineteen seventy one,
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but the tramps have been identified we know who they are. It's just so
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ridiculous on his face that these guys were and then immediately let out the back
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door on orders of George Bush. I mean, come on, man,
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come on, all right, here we go. Put your helmets on,
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put your shin guards on, and get ready for the bullshit. Here we
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go. Here are some shooters in Daly Plaza. It's just for you.
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We met Hunt briefly a few minutes ago when a jury found its Spotlight magazine
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was innocent of slander because the jury found that Hunt was guilty of being in
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Dallas and of being involved in the assassination. Turns out, though, like
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Bush, he wasn't just there, you see. It also turns out it's
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hard to hire a professional to shoot the president. A professional killer who gets
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away with being a professional killer isn't stupid. He knows the rope by the
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way this animation kills me, kills me, and briefly, he knows that
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if he kills the president and manages to escape the cops, the men who
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hired him will need to kill him. The bosses don't want to be blackmailed.
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They don't want truthful deathbed confessions either. And even though e. Howard
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Hunt supposedly gave one, but please continue. The shooter knows if he doesn't
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escape the cops, he's not going to make it to trial. So qualified
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shooters, the real professionals, refused to take the job. That's how Bush
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ended up being a shooter and Hunt. This photo of Lansdale also shows three
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men. So now we have George Bush as a shooter. E Howard Hunt
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is a shooter. Okay, okay, back to Lansdale. Pulled off a
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freight car in the rail yard immediately behind the grassy Knoll. There are several
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photos of these men being led across Daly Plaza to the jail, and some
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say that this is Hunt, but I don't see it. It's hard to
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know. I definitely don't think any of these photos look like Jay Gebara.
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But guess what, that's him. The KGB made him up in this disguise.
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So if Hunt is wearing a CIA disguise, this tramp shouldn't look any
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more like Hunt. Then this looks like Chay. So what can we do?
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Okay, all right, all right, this photo of Jagovar is killing
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me. You know, disguises have come a long way over the years,
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but in nineteen sixty three. They weren't that great. I mean, you're
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talking about different hair cuts, different hair dye prosthetics, makeup things like that,
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growl mustache, shave a must dache, grow a beard, shave a
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beard. You know, hey, Squint, don't smile. You know that
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was about the extent of these so called disguises. But let's continue. Renowned
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investigative reporter Jack Anderson hired three ms Comtoll Corporation, a firm that specializes in
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photographic analysis, to study this question of whether this tramp is Hunt, and
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Comtel agreed toto enhancement showed a striking resemblance to Hunt when nineteen seventy six.
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I mean, what kind of thing is this? What is this? Generally
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speaking, I'm mistrustful of such so called experts, so I'm still not persuaded.
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So what else we got? Ears? Ear? For crime investigators looking
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at photos of faces. Ears are similar to fingerprints. Let's find the most
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black and white, greeniest picture of an ear we can. Okay, John,
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let's go. We are exactly the same. I'm going to copy Hunt's
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ear from this photo and bring it over to the tramp. The tramp photo
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especially is not ideal, but you can see that the ears are very similar.
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They both have this narrow gap right here, and they both seem to
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share this empty space at the top. I wouldn't convict anybody on such evidence,
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but if Hunt's ear looked like this or this, we'd have to say
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he is not this tramp. But this ear analysis says he might be.
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And you should know. Hunts's son also says that this is him. I
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was on the sidewalkingt was it a pump? Real quick? This dude,
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Saint John Hunt, has been trying to cash in on his daddy being the
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CIA bad guy for years and it hasn't worked. How do I know.
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I'm a Facebook friend and dude always be asking for money and places to live
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and all that good stuff. And not to disparage the man, but you
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can't live off your daddy's legacy, especially one that's not true. But here's
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what he has to say about it, humboots. And I was on the
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phone and I looked up and on the side of the telephone toll was a
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very crude poster I guess you'd call it, or a large z flet,
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which announced that the CIA had murdered JFK. Dick Gregory determined that E.
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Howard Hunt murdered JFK. And on this rather crude poster were three photographs to
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and then the middle picture was clearly a picture of my father, Howard Hunt.
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But that was really crazy for me to see that. That's rather substantial.
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This is Hunt, well, Dick Gregory said, it must be true.
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Son, he knows what his father looks like. He may have seen
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his father walking around the house with this expression on his face a thousand times.
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I don't know. But let's quickly revisit this magazine article about Hunt.
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The article was based on a memo written by James Angleton, the head of
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CIA counter Intelligence, and he wrote that Hunt was in Dallas and was involved
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in the assassination. But notice please, Lansdale was also there. Bush was
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also there. Other members of Lansdale's team were also there, but Angleton doesn't
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mention any of them, just Hunt. It's like Hunt played some special role
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that the others did not play, Like maybe he fired the fatal shot.
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You think that's a solid maybe? So how did he know? Was Hunt
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bragging? Nixon also seemed to know Hunt was involved and said, so Hunt
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played some special role that made him stand out in Nixon's mind. Stupid Watergate
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nazi g Gordon Lyddy in his stupid book stupidly repeats the stupid lie that Hunt
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killed twenty two people. Hunt must have bragged to Lyddy about it. You
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don't suppose Hunt was a braggart, Well, duh. If you write three
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autobiographies, count them three. You are a braggart. And in this first
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autobiography, Hunt includes this picture and caption no doubt he was giving a wink
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to his CIA friends, bragging, yeah, it's true what you heard.
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I did it. It was me. But I'll tell you I wasn't overly
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impressed by all of this preliminary stuff. But with all that preliminary stuff as
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context as background, I feel this picture is practically a lock that Hunt.
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This picture was taken almost twenty years before the Kennedy assassination. H God,
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it's killing me killing me? Was the NOLL shooter and it makes sense,
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doesn't it that the planners would put the number one experienced sniper in the most
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critical position. Hunt claims that he was the chief of Covert Action in the
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Domestic Operations Division. He also claims that he was the chief of the CIA's
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Western Hemisphere division. But for sure he wasn't a nobody. He had an
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office in Nixon's White House. So when Dick Gregory started speaking out and putting
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up posters saying that Hunt was this tramp and that the CIA had murdered JFK,
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this decoy was hired in the frustrated the spotlight James Files to say that
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he was the lone Grassy Knole shooter. But every witness who saw anything,
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every offense at the top of the knoll says there were at least two men
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there. Photos show two men. He tells us that he's a murderous mafia
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shitbag, but he has some inexplicable devotion to the truth about how Hunt didn't
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do it okay, and he got twenty five years taken off his sentence because
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he claimed to have murdered Kennedy. Really is that how that works? But
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the way I see it, if this were some unknown, unimportant schmuck in
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this photo, no one would have thought to hire Files to tell us this
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lie. The fact that the killers found it necessary to hire Files, that
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fact is perhaps the strongest evidence that this is in fact Hunt. And then
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there's this clown Chauncey Holt, who was a low down, small time fraudster
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all his life, who gave his wife all I can agree on her and
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for the next twenty years they had a daughter that he gave his phony name
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to. And he actually says that he's coming forward out of a righteous desire
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to s stand up for the truth and to defend Hunt from slander. I'm
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not kidding. You couldn't make up more ridiculous garbage. And he says that
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he is the tramp and the photos and as he's telling us this lie,
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he does kind of look like the tramp, except that the tramp photo was
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taken forty years before, when Holt looked like this, thirty years younger than
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the tramp. This story is so dumb that the perps are bending over backwards
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to protect Hunt, but they don't see that by doing that, they are
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really only incriminating him. It's really ironic. No, Angleton's memo didn't say
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Hunt was a shooter, and I didn't suspect that he was, But after
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this constant pounding from all these stone liars, I'm now convinced Hunt did that
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shit. But who cares. It's a minor detail, isn't it? Is
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it? Let's review for just a second, Yeah, please, CIA General
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Lansdale in the street in Deal Plaza was the highest ranking leader of what Hoover
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called the misguided anti Castro Cubans called Operation Mongoose. Lansdale answered directly and only
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to Bobby Kennedy Dealey. Plaza was crowded with Lansdale's operatives. Besides his lieutenants
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Bush and Hunt, there were a gang of low level operatives acting as decoys,
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including Frank Sturgis, Jerry Hemmings, Pedro Diaz, Lonz, Orlando Bosch,
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Guierremovo, and Ignacio Novo. But it's useful to look at this structure.
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Lansdale is the second tier down from the White House, and immediately under
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him was a team of lieutenants supervisors of the violence, answerable to no one
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but him. Bush and Hunt were members of this third level team, and
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another member of this team was Ted Shackley. Shackley was nicknamed the Blonde Ghost
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because he hated to be photographed. He was famous for it. But now
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wait, don't all CIA people hate to be photographed? Well, no,
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not Hunt or Bush. And in fact Shockley was not an operative. He
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was a desk jockey. He virtually never left his office. Why do you
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suppose he's this pencil pusher was famous for hating to be photographed. It's not
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a casual question. You see, this is Shackley being arrested as a shooter
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outside the book Depository. No wonder then that he was terrified of being photograph
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He couldn't afford someone looking at this video and saying, oh shit, that
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guy looks exactly like Ted Shackley, which is what I said when I saw
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it. You can see the pattern we're developing here. No no professional would
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take the job. So, to our mutual amazement, we find that the
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top highest leaders of the CIA mongoose operation had to directly involve themselves as shooters.
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Bush was arrested coming out of the dal Text building from which shots had
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been fired. Was arrested behind the grassy knoll, and the news reporters say
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this Shackley twin was arrested coming out of the book depository. But we're missing
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somebody. Richard Carr testified that he saw a man with horned rimmed glasses on
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the sixth floor, But Carr and at least four other witnesses amos Ewens,
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Tony Henderson, Arnold Rowland, and Deputy Roger Craig all testified that they saw
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a fourth, very dark Latino member of this team of shooters. Some saw
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him wielding a rifle, Ewans actually saw him firing shots. Craig saw him
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being questioned by the police, and Carr and Craig both saw him driving the
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getaway Nash Rambler station wagon with Lee Harvey Oswald on board. And they all
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described this fourth member of the team as a very dark Latino. Wait,
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a very dark latino in the highest levels of the CIA. Really, yes,
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really. David Morales, who worked directly for Shackley, was Shackley's chief
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of operations in Miami. Miami was by far the largest operations office in the
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entire side. Let's let's pause there for a second, folks, because there's
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a lot to take in and a lot to kill. Okay. I was
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curious, as one might be when it comes to his Ted Shackley Larry Flora
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comparison. Now I did a little math, people weep, and according to
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Ted Shackley, his bio, Ted Shackley would have been thirty six years old
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in nineteen sixty three. Now, take a gander at this, folks.
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Right in the middle, is that you young buck right there? Larry Floor,
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the supposedly drunk guy that was arrested coming out of the Dow text building
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now on the left, is a pretty good comparison with Ted Shackley. Okay,
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yeah, at a glance maybe, But then you know, Shakley has
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a much more pronounced jawline, his ear lobe is attached, unlike Larry Floors.
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Floor has a much jowlier jawline. Shakley has a much pointier chin,
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a weirder looking nose than Flora. And yeah, other than that, they
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have, you know, the same hairstyle, and they wear glasses from the
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day. Okay, other than that, it ain't the same guy. I
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mean, look real closely at Larry Floor's skin. That is the skin of
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a young buck in his early twenties, late teens, more likely early twenties.
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That is not the picture of a thirty six year old man. Folks.
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I'm sorry, it just is not. Okay, you know, it
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never ceases to amaze me. Now, I'm gonna run through some pictures here
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because a lot of you have heard me talk about this stuff, but you've
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never seen it. With your own two eyes, because the podcast used to
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not be visual. But here we go, the whole big famous you know
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picture of Bush in front of the school book depository. Okay, it happens
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to be the guy to the left of the Ali R. V. Oswald
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look alike getting led away by I don't know what kind of cop this is
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bailiff. But the George Bush figure in grainy photographs is actually a picture of
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this guy. And his name is H. H. Something, and I
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can't remember it right off him, but I think he worked for the DA's
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office. And there's that picture, and then I believe he's in this one
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as well. Yes, if you'll look very closely, I believe you will
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see him on the left with these cigarette sticking out of his mouth. And
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then this area in the middle here that's the prayer man. And if you
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look right in the middle of the photograph, beside the beside the wall,
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the brick wall on the stairs, you'll see a very vague image of a
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bottle outline right there almost in front of where the guy is pointing just a
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little bit forward and down. So whoever was standing there on the steps was
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having a coke sound familiar. Here's another picture of the very much crowded school
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book depository steps in the aftermath. Now, if you look to the far
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left, you will see Bonnie Ray Williams, the smooth looking brother right there,
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all the way on the left, and directly in front of him his
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man named Ronald Fisher. Now this is the guy getting led away in this
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picture. Now, allegedly Ronald Fisher and a buddy of his were standing across
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the street from the depository at the time of the assassination and allegedly saw a
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shooter in the upper windows. Now, let's see what this seen. This
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one. I have not seen this one. I think I included this one
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for the bottle. I can't blow it up enough to have you see the
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bottle, but yeah, I just wanted to include that little bit there,
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and just to show you how much of horseshit his comparison. Job is.
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Now to get back to ed Lansdale in dearly Applaza for a second. Let's
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do this now. Apparently Fletcher Proudy produced a letter from Victor Krulak addressed to
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him. I believe it was in nineteen eighty five, and I could not
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find the actual document today. I know that it is in the Weisberg archives.
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I just was not able to find it in the time that I had
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to prepare for the show, but I did find something close. This is
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a reproduction of the letter at Rattville dot Org, I think Dave Ratcliffe's site,
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and while it is not verbatim, it will give you the gist.
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Now, this letter was typed, you know, on a typewriter. The
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only thing signed was at the bottom, signed by Brute Krulac. Okay,
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and here's what it says, mister Fletcher Prouty, dear Fletch. As I
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read your interesting letter, it is plain that you have not wanted for interest
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or achievement in your life. It has to have been exciting and rewarding too.
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Mine has been a lively existence too. I had much to do with
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Vietnam from sixty four to sixty eight and was loudly disenchanted with what went on
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and how. I recorded it as part of my book First to Fight that
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came out a few months ago. I've also spent ten years in the newspaper
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business, a most useful education, and now ready syndicate a weekly column.
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I wrote another book, Organization for National Security that resulted in my testifying before
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a Senate committee. All takes together a stirring life. As to your chronicle
37:30
concerning the jfk assassination period, I remember you're going to America. I was
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in the Pentagon at the time of the tragedy, but I have no recollection
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of where Landale was. Lansdale was the pictures. The two policemen are carrying
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shotguns and rifles. Their caps are different, one a white chin strap or
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black. One has a Dallas police shoulder pack, one does not. And
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their caps differ from that of another police officer in photo. For reasonable conclusion,
38:08
they are either what is that, reservists or phonies. And as you
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know, city cops don't have anything to do with the sheriff's offices. As
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to photo number one, that is indeed a picture of Ed Lansdale. The
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haircut, the stoop, the twisted left hand, the large class ring,
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it's Lansdale. What in the world was he doing there? Has anyone ever
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asked him? And who was the photographer? Why did he take the pictures?
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What did he do with them? I have examined my own records and
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find no clue that would help. Suffice to say it's a fascinating proposition.
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I am returning your pictures, best recals, guards, sincerely, signed Brute
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Krulak. Now in the actual letter, like I said, the only thing
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signed is the signature at the name at the bottom. It is. It's
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not on letterhead paper. It's just at the very top in the middle.
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It just says Victor Victor H. Krulak typed in the center. Not retired
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general. Not nothing like that. Not. You know, a man of
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his stature would have had his own letterhead stationary. Okay, a man with
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a decorated military career as this guy would have had his own signature letterhead stationary.
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Not a hastily typed thing. Now, what people fail to understand is
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that Fletcher Prouty worked for Victor Krulak back in the early sixties. But he's
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writing this letter to him, almost like Fletcher Proudy doesn't know who the hell
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he is. You know, it's kind of weird, the beginning part.
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That's the only reason I read it, not that it's relevant to the Lansdale
40:21
identification, but that it's just weird. You know, I had much to
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do with Vietnam from sixty four to sit there was no shit, you know,
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Fletcher Prouty would have known this, you know. According to him,
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he wrote many of Krulak's own reports that he you know, to get to
40:45
the to the generals joint chiefs. So to me, this letter screams forgery,
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forgery, forgery, forgery on the part of Fletcher Prouty. Now why
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do I think this? Not only does the document lack in legitimacy itself,
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but I believe I've played this on Quick Hits before, but I'm going to
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play it here today for you. This is audio of General Krulak being interviewed
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by Harrison Livingstone in the early nineties, so this would have been after Prouty's
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so called letter. Okay, so have a listen to this and listen very
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carefully to the words that are coming out of Victor Krulak's mouth when he has
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asked specifically about his Lansdale identification. So here we go, Livingstone and I'm
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a friend of Fletcher Proudy. Huh uh. I published an article of his
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in one of my books, and I wondered if you had a few minutes
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that I could speak to you. To go ahead. I'm uh. I
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am an investigator in the murderer of President Kennedy. I wrote the book called
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High Trees, and which I don't know if you've even heard of. It
42:15
was the best summer or last winter. Uh. We just came back from
42:20
a week of filming in Dallas, uh, where I had succeeded in bringing
42:23
together a number of the witnesses from the automsy at Bethesda with a number of
42:28
the Dallas doctors and nurses. And it was quite a uh, it was
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quite an explosive session. And uh. In one of Fletcher's articles, he
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uh describes and Dale was a U as Prouty would tag you was an Air
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Force officer. Yeah. Do you do you give any credibility to the possibility
42:52
that either of them might have been involved in the plot or have been a
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daily plaza on the day of the murder? Uh? No, I am
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the remote knowledge of that. The only thing, the only thing that I've
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ever heard is what uh Prouty has told Yeah. How d how uh uh
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incredible do you feel he is in terms of y you were you work closely
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with you? I understand, Oh yeah, yes, Uh. But you've
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did you read his book The Secret Tea? No? Uh? Would you
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do you consider yourself still friendly towards him. Oh absolutely, uh, cause
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he does idolize you, you know, I mean he uh absolutely, I
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think I I regard him as as sound, solid, respectable and honorable.
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Yeah. He says that in some of the photographs taken him deal he plause
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it just after the murder in the background. He believes that he sees uh
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Lansdale. Yes, yes, he has told me that. Yeah, I
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have no. I I couldn't corroborate it because I don't don't have any independent
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uh uh information or avenue. Would you did you know lance Dale and all?
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Sure? Would you have any reason to suspect that he might have been
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involved in No, I would not. I Lansdale is a mysterious sort of
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fellow. Uh, And I was never quite sure exactly what he was doing
44:21
or where he was going. Very very mysterious. Yeah, well there you
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go, folks. He cannot corroborate it, yet supposedly proudly has a letter
44:37
from him corroborating it. So figure that one out on your own. Again.
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It's an identification of a guy from the back of his head, the
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back of his suit, and it's twisted left hand in class ring. Come
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on, come on, folks, Lots of people wore suits back then,
45:05
lots of people had a certain hairstyle back then. Lots of people wore class
45:10
rings or military rings, or college rings, pinky rings, whatever you want
45:17
to call it back then. Not so much nowadays. But this is the
45:24
kind of nonsense that is still being put out to this day. And this
45:31
is why it's part of this show. We fight so hard to bring you
45:37
the truth. This utter nonsense and horseshit is still pervasive to this day,
45:47
has evidenced for the world to see. All you have to do is go
45:53
to YouTube and search out John Hankey and it will take you to a sh
46:00
channel and you can watch this what's it called theatrical release from last year,
46:10
you know, it's called Breakthrough the jfk Assassination SAWD and you will laugh your
46:21
way through the entire thing that George Bush was a shooter in the dal Text
46:25
building E Howard Hunt on the Grassy Nol. But then he'll show you a
46:31
picture of E. Howard Hunt wearing his hat, his fedora and his raincoat
46:38
walking across Elm Street from the Center Esplanade, you know, nowhere near the
46:46
Grassy Nole. And he says that's Hunt. So apparently Hunt has a doppelganger
46:52
in Daley Plaza, and Hunt is behind the grassy ole fence and he is
46:57
an expert sniper. You can't make this stuff up, folks. You know,
47:04
you got David Morales up in the sixth floor. Then he cruises around
47:08
and picks a lee os walled up, and there they go. It is
47:15
so exhausting battling this horseshit to this day, sixty almost sixty one years later.
47:28
It's the same old cycle of nonsense. It's nonsense after nonsense after nonsense,
47:37
utter complete nonsense. So if you want to waste your time two hours
47:45
of your life that you never get back, feel free to go find this
47:51
thing on YouTube by John Hanky and watch it and make up your own mind.
47:58
I'm just trying to save you some time. You know, it seems
48:00
like the people that have all these horseshit ideas have all this money to make
48:06
these fancy movies and high production. You know, it's not high production,
48:10
but it does take time and money to do what he did in this movie,
48:17
as far as the editing and the animations and all of that, even
48:22
as crude as they are. You know, that stuff takes time. It's
48:28
not easy to do so to do all that, to put your movie out
48:34
on dark room and then pull it and then have YouTube be the only place
48:39
that anyone can find it. It's not even on his IMDb like as an
48:46
official movie of his. It's very weird. So I don't know if maybe
48:52
he wanted to wipe this thing off the face of the earth, but he
48:57
left it on his YouTube channel for free. I don't know. I just
49:04
don't know. No, before I leave you today, I wanted to hit
49:09
a couple more things, just to leave it on a better note. Not
49:13
so sour, not so sour grapes, but a couple of things that I
49:16
wanted to show you, all right, First up, this is the FBI
49:28
report about the Lieutenant Carl Day of the Dallas Police Department. Now, if
49:37
you'll notice, they are dated the exact same day, but the one on
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the right appears a little bit longer than the one on the left, So
49:46
let's read the one on the left. It says Lieutenant Carl Day, Dallas
49:52
Police Department, stated he found the brown paper bag shaped like a gun case
50:00
near the scene of the shooting on the sixth floor of the Texas school Book
50:05
Depository building. He stated, the manager mister Truly saw this bag at the
50:14
time it was taken into possession by Lieutenant Day. Truly, according to Day,
50:20
did not had not seen this bag before. No one else viewed it,
50:34
truly for used in packing books by the Texas school Book Depository. This
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paper was examined by the FBI laboratory and found not to be identical with the
50:47
paper bag or with the paper gun case found at the scene. The Dallas
50:54
Police have not exhibited this to anyone else. It was immediately locked up by
51:00
Day, kept in his possession until it was turned over to the FBI Agent
51:04
Draine for transmitdle until to the laboratory. It was examined by the laboratory,
51:10
returned to the Dallas Police on November twenty fourth, and locked up in the
51:15
crime lab. This bag was returned to Agent Draine on November twenty sixth and
51:22
taken back to the FBI laboratory. Lieutenant Day stated, no one else has
51:27
identified this bag to the Dallas Police Department. Okay, now on the right
51:32
side, we have again apparently the same document. Now this one says this.
51:43
Lieutenant Carl Day, Dallas Police Department stated he found the brown paper bag
51:47
shaped like a guncase near the scene of the shooting on the sixth floor at
51:52
the school Book Depository building. He stated, the manager, mister Trully saw
51:57
this bag at the time it was taken into possessed by Lieutenant Day. Truly,
52:01
according to Day, had not seen this bag before. No one else
52:06
viewed it. Truly furnished similar brown paper from the roll that was used in
52:12
packing books by the Texas school Book Depository. This paper was examined by the
52:15
FBI lab and found to have the same observable characteristics as the brown paper bag
52:23
shaped like a guncase which was found near the scene of the shooting on the
52:29
sixth floor of the Texas school Book Depository. The Dallas Police have not exhibited
52:35
this to anyone else. It was immediately locked up by Day, kept in
52:38
its possession until it was turned over to the FBI agent Draine for transmittal to
52:43
the lab. I mean, this is exactly the exact same thing. Only
52:46
one of them said that the paper was examined by the FBI lab and found
52:55
not to be identical, and the other one says it was found to have
53:01
the same observable characteristic which means that it was identical. So what kind of
53:07
fuckery is this? What kind of after the fact fuckery is this to blatantly
53:16
change two documents to say completely opposite things. Now, was this done because
53:24
of Buele Frasier saying that the bag that Oswald carried in was like a really
53:29
lightweight dime store type paperbag material. I don't know, but anyway, that
53:37
is a case of the FBI getting caught changing documents, changing reports. You
53:45
can't make this stuff up, folks. Now let's take a look because we've
53:52
heard going back to the Vicky Adams episode, she stated that she saw Jack
54:00
Ruby outside of the school book depository. And she's not the only one to
54:05
make this accusation. I happened to find a picture of a guy. I
54:13
don't think it's Ruby, but damn if he don't look like a lot like
54:15
him. Check this out, folks. Boom right there, smack dab in
54:23
the middle. Now we can tell that this was taken not too much longer
54:30
after the shooting, because we see Carl Jenkins, the large black man and
54:37
the khaki outfit in the background, still on the steps. We see a
54:45
lot of these female workers out here in front the cop cars right up front,
54:51
and there's a guy with a receding hairline wearing a sports jacket with no
54:55
tie and sunglasses. It does look like a younger version, a younger,
55:04
skinnier version of Jack Ruby. I just thought it was interesting to show everybody
55:09
that, you know, maybe Vicky Adams wasn't crazy. Maybe people will say
55:15
they that they saw Ruby there, mistaked him with this guy who knows.
55:22
You know. It's just those interesting things, folks, interesting things. But
55:30
anyway, that's about it for today. I wanted just to uh bring bring
55:37
the people of the locals a little something something, and tonight's the only nay
55:42
I can do it this week until we record live on Friday night, and
55:47
so I had to do it without Joe. But I think we got through
55:52
it okay, And uh, you know, Joe will be back Friday night.
55:57
Don't worry. I know a lot of you miss him. I miss
56:00
him too, But he is having the time of his life at a playoff
56:08
Rangers playoff game, So let him enjoy it. Let him have his time
56:15
because it's probably the last time he'll see a Rangers playoff game until another twenty
56:22
years, thirty years from now. I think The last time they were there
56:27
was in ninety four, So yeah, thirty years, Joe will be old
56:32
and gray like your boy by the time they get back there. But so
56:38
for Joe, was it George D. Gino, J J James, James
56:45
D. Eugenio, John D. D. D Angelo is the this is
56:53
your boy, the Triple B. That's right, And we'll be back on
57:02
Friday night. Like I said, we'll be back live and we'll have some
57:07
more fun and games for everyone. I'm not sure if what we're gonna do
57:10
yet, We'll figure it out. We always do because we are a professional
57:15
nows like that. You know what I'm saying. So come hang with us
57:21
on YouTube this Friday night, seven pm, Live in your Face for episode
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57:31
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your friends and your family and people you don't know. That'd be cool.
57:45
But anyway, that's it for me. It's been real. Hope you enjoyed,
57:49
and we'll see you next time. Folks. I had to do a
57:57
double fast because Joe's not here. I live back lit peace