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I See The Demon From Actor Jon Heder And Director Jacob Lee Johnson · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: It's that one place that has 21 different podcasts to
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  Speaker 1: exploration jacob i gotta tell you john you're very important
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  Speaker 1: but right now i gotta ask jacob a question because
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  Speaker 1: that ending of this movie i've gotten me he was
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  Speaker 1: the man behind that lens my god jacob you have
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  Speaker 1: got me even thinking about it even when this day
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  Speaker 1: is just beginning spielberg's gonna look at this and he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna go how did he put that together like that
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  Speaker 1: and just convince me that it was going a completely
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  Speaker 1: different direction You really won me over just because of
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  Speaker 1: that ending, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, thank you. I'm glad you stuck around to
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  Speaker 2: see it pay off.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. And John, I mean, all the way
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  Speaker 1: through this movie, that entire friendship and gang and you're
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  Speaker 1: promoting that, you know, togetherness and everybody's together and then
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  Speaker 1: things start to switch up. And I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: spoil it for any any viewer, but my God, the
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  Speaker 1: balance of this movie and you're part of this journey, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool, man.
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  Speaker 1: It's cool in the way it's like we've gone back
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  Speaker 1: to a world where we can all get together to
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  Speaker 1: celebrate a birthday. And yet, because so many times people
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  Speaker 1: are doing it just on their smartphones. But you guys
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  Speaker 1: are proving to us that we can all get together.
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  Speaker 1: But I love the twists and the turns and the
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  Speaker 1: unexpected moments that this movie delivers. What did you feel, John,
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  Speaker 1: while you were putting this together? You were there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know, when you're on set, you
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  Speaker 3: don't really know. I mean, it was confusing because if,
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  Speaker 3: you know, without giving away too much, there's a lot of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, kind of messing with your psychological timeline when
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  Speaker 3: watching the film, because the story kind of cuts around
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  Speaker 3: as it's nonlinear. And so on set, you're just kind of,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of guesswork. And I think it helps
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  Speaker 3: our performances because we wouldn't know as characters that And
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  Speaker 3: as actors, we don't know what's going to happen next.
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  Speaker 3: You can read the script, but the script can be
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  Speaker 3: just as confusing as what's happening in the story and
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  Speaker 3: what's happening in that moment. So it was very fun
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  Speaker 3: and cool to be part of this. Because even sometimes
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  Speaker 3: the direction from Jacob would be like, suddenly this happens.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, shoot. OK, let's react. Yeah. Jacob,
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  Speaker 1: if you were in this studio right now, over my shoulder,
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  Speaker 1: there must be 15, 16 elephants. So when I saw
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  Speaker 1: an elephant in this movie, I went so childlike ballistic
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  Speaker 1: because I'm going, oh my God, of course it has
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  Speaker 1: to be an elephant. Was that part of the original script?
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  Speaker 1: What made you go to the elephant? Because that is
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  Speaker 1: a reoccurring role in this movie that I hope people
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  Speaker 1: pick up on.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that was just something subtle. Let's see. Let's see.
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  Speaker 2: Why specifically an elephant? I don't... I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I've had any really specific reason for that, but I
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  Speaker 2: do know that I did kind of play with the
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  Speaker 2: elephant theme, uh, without giving things away, uh, uh, in
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  Speaker 2: some of the weirder sequences of the, um, that weren't
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  Speaker 2: meant to be like, uh, that just kind of shed
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of light, I guess, or, or, or
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  Speaker 2: hint at what's going on inside the mind of our protagonists. So, um,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see if people pick up on that.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't move. We're just getting started with John heater
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  Speaker 1: and Jacob Lee Johnson. The name of the movie. I
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  Speaker 1: see the demon. Oh, and you will. We are back
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  Speaker 1: with John heater and Jacob Lee Johnson. Well, one thing
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  Speaker 1: they're going to pick up on, John, is lucky to
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  Speaker 1: have friends who bring wine. Come on. And then you
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  Speaker 1: have two wine. I mean, this has got to be
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  Speaker 1: a T-shirt. We got to be sporting this attitude, man.
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  Speaker 1: And with your picture right on it, dude. Oh, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: That's acting, man.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to support wine drinking. Someone brought the
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  Speaker 3: grape juice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Those are good friends, man. They brought
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  Speaker 1: me the aged grape juice. That's it. I love this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Now, both of you being associated with the state of Utah,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I went through the movie. I'm going, I
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  Speaker 1: know what happens musically in Utah. And that is that
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  Speaker 1: there's a punk rock scene there that is just unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And the world needs to discover it the way that
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  Speaker 1: I have. But the music itself had that attitude about
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  Speaker 1: it where it was like, we're going to play our
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  Speaker 1: own thing. How did you get that music involved in
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  Speaker 1: this project? Because it helps carry the movie as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm really glad you picked up on all that because, yes,
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  Speaker 2: that was very, very intentional. We had, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of a punk rocker composer. His name's Micah Dahl Anderson.
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  Speaker 2: He is part of the, like, Provo indie scene. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: he's been in a lot of different bands and he
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  Speaker 2: does crazy stuff. He does crazy stuff. He like he's
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  Speaker 2: when he's just toys with all sorts of different things
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  Speaker 2: to make instruments out of like, you know, big saws
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  Speaker 2: and all sorts of crazy objects and stuff. And so
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  Speaker 2: I was so happy that he was on board and
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  Speaker 2: the score is one of my favorite things about this movie.
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  Speaker 2: So when you watch it, watch it loud so you
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  Speaker 2: can get the music. As loud as it can be, because.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it's supposed to be. Let's keep it right
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  Speaker 1: there on the music, Jacob, in the way of Happy
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  Speaker 1: Birthday to Me. That has a new vibe in my
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  Speaker 1: life when I hear that song. And I love it
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  Speaker 1: when a movie can do that, where all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden every gear in your body shifts because of something
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was, and then again, Micah, the composer, he
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  Speaker 2: did some really cool stuff with the lyric. Oh my God, yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I guess he actually, what he did was really cool.
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  Speaker 2: He recorded himself and some other people singing it backwards
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  Speaker 2: and then playing it forwards. So there's like, if you
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  Speaker 2: listen closely, you can see that the words, there's like
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  Speaker 2: an under, there's one track that is like reversed, but
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  Speaker 2: played forwards. And so it's super weird and unsettling. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: so that was, I think that was one of the
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  Speaker 2: most effective parts. It was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: John, the most important question of the day is, and
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  Speaker 1: I got to know pie or cake, which one you
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  Speaker 1: going for?
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  Speaker 3: Cake now are you gonna go cake used to be
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  Speaker 3: pie but it's.
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  Speaker 1: Cake my mind completely stopped in that moment and I
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  Speaker 1: went god what one would I choose I mean you
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  Speaker 1: read the whole that see that's what's great about what
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  Speaker 1: Jacob did with this movie is that you find yourself
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  Speaker 1: as a viewer going I'm part of this group I
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  Speaker 1: am in that same exact picture they are because they
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  Speaker 1: keep pulling me in and and and I needed someone
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  Speaker 1: like you John to keep that going and you did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, that was my job.
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  Speaker 1: Now, a movie like this, though, this is what we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about for a long time because
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  Speaker 1: of everybody that came together. What was it like on
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  Speaker 1: that set? Because I read somewhere that you guys didn't
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  Speaker 1: get to go off into trailers and stuff, that it
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  Speaker 1: was all right there and that everybody was just a
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  Speaker 1: room away. That was a movie party, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It was crazy. It was wild. We were
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  Speaker 2: all stuck in that house for... I love it. And
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  Speaker 2: just running on top of each other and just getting
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  Speaker 2: nice and cozy next to each other. So that was fun.
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  Speaker 3: Never have I shared a.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you call it a green room
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  Speaker 3: or a dressing room or, like, I guess the cast
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  Speaker 3: waiting room. You know, every project's different. But the entire cast,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we were all stuck in the same one room.
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  Speaker 3: And I couldn't have been happier because then you really...
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  Speaker 3: have that like you're forced to get to know each
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  Speaker 3: other and it was so much fun oh my god
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  Speaker 3: and it really helped with our dynamics and with uh
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  Speaker 3: with our chemistry yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yep you feel it you you experience it because i
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  Speaker 1: mean that that's what made me go digging for some
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  Speaker 1: stuff to find out if you guys had acted before
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  Speaker 1: if you guys have been together before because i had
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  Speaker 1: to know as a viewer why was i feeling something
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  Speaker 1: that was felt so authentic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, and yeah, actually it was really cool because
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the ensemble cast, uh, we, I've known
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  Speaker 2: them for a long time. I don't know if they've
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  Speaker 2: ever all been together before, but, but, uh, I think
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  Speaker 2: that there is a bit of a friendship between us
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  Speaker 2: outside for a lot of us. And then that carried through, um,
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  Speaker 2: when we got on set and then people like John
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  Speaker 2: came in and just, um, clicked with everybody immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Wow where can people go to find out more about
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  Speaker 1: this movie because they need to go see it on
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  Speaker 1: the big screen and on tv as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah well it's out on streaming today uh on uh
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  Speaker 2: basically all your you know amazon apple etc um you
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  Speaker 2: can find it there and then uh yeah i hope
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  Speaker 2: people like it hope people see it uh we had
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  Speaker 2: a a really strong festival run, won some good awards
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  Speaker 2: and had a lot of great reactions. And so we
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  Speaker 2: hope people watch it, watch it through to the end.
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  Speaker 2: Cause that's where it's ending is where it really pays off.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Please come back to this show. Anytime in the future,
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  Speaker 1: the two of you, the door is always going to
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  Speaker 1: be open for you.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: You guys be brilliant today. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: We will.