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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of I
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
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Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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Speaker 1: about them. I am Ariel casting and with me as
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Speaker 1: always is super amazing, sometimes wistful. Jonathan Strickland For a moment, Ariel,
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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, I'm sometimes super amazing. Ariel.
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Speaker 1: I've got a question for you. So, Ariel, you are
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Speaker 1: a fan of the Star Trek. Correct, I am a
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Speaker 1: fan of the star That wasn't your question. That was
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Speaker 1: just the It was an easy one. This could still
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Speaker 1: be an easy one. So my question for you is,
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Speaker 1: if you were a crew member on the Starship Enterprise,
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Speaker 1: which department or position would you work in? So, would
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Speaker 1: you be part of engineering, would you be part of
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Speaker 1: the bridge crew? If so, which position would you be in?
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Speaker 1: Science or security or tactical? What would you what would
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Speaker 1: you do? And for the for the purposes of clarity,
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Speaker 1: we're looking at Star Trek next generation era. Okay, that's
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Speaker 1: that's good because you know it automatic your question automatically
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Speaker 1: took out Deep Space nine, which is my favorite of them.
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Speaker 1: Uh so I would be I think i'd be in
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Speaker 1: in the education department. I would be the one teaching
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Speaker 1: the kids on the Enterprise croovy awesome. Yeah, because that's
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Speaker 1: something that obviously would not apply in the original series,
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Speaker 1: because the original Enterprise didn't have families aboard the way
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Speaker 1: Next Generation did. It's a great answer, thank you. If
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Speaker 1: if it were original series, I think I would be
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Speaker 1: in science. I wanna want to do the science e things. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you look good in blue. Thank you? What would you do? Oh?
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Speaker 1: Thank you for asking Next Generation. I'm a lounge singer
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Speaker 1: and ten forward. You know what that's that's pretty fantastic.
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Speaker 1: I'm a little sad I didn't say that. Well, I
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Speaker 1: have the benefit of thinking up the questions, so you're
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Speaker 1: always a disadvantage. But yes, it's time for us to
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Speaker 1: launch into one Happy New Year aerial. Happy New Year, gentleman,
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Speaker 1: and we thought we would start off by talking about
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Speaker 1: how if we did anything geeky at the beginning of one.
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Speaker 1: I kind of have an answer for this, but I'm
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Speaker 1: curious what you did. Uh well, I threw aside all
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Speaker 1: of my New Year's resolutions to get in shape and
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Speaker 1: be more active and be more productive. And I spent
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Speaker 1: the entire first day of one binge watching the third
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Speaker 1: season of Cobra Kai and it was pretty fantastic. So
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Speaker 1: you are not that I'm going to drop any spoilers
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Speaker 1: here because there may be people who have not watched
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Speaker 1: it yet, but you got to see the the return
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Speaker 1: of a character from the Karate Kid franchise who had
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Speaker 1: been hinted at previously. I take it. Yes, yes, there
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Speaker 1: there were many many moments that had me happy, that
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Speaker 1: had me crying, that had me yelling you at my
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Speaker 1: TV screen. It was really fantastic. That's awesome. Well, I
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Speaker 1: didn't really do much of anything on New Year's Day.
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not, to be very perfectly honest, I'm
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Speaker 1: not big on celebrating New Year's even on years when
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Speaker 1: I can go out of the house. But I will
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Speaker 1: say that yesterday as of when we're recording this, we're
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Speaker 1: recording this on Monday night, so it's January four where
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Speaker 1: we are. On January three, I watched the first episode
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Speaker 1: of the Watch, the BBC series that is loosely inspired
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Speaker 1: by the Terry Pratchett Discworld novels, and even going into
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Speaker 1: it knowing that there was a huge gap between the
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Speaker 1: source material and this adaptation or this series. Even going
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Speaker 1: into it knowing that, I was like, I don't even
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Speaker 1: I don't even know why they bothered because I think
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Speaker 1: this will be a discussion topic for a future episode
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Speaker 1: of ellen c. But there comes a point I think
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Speaker 1: when you're working with source material, when you get far
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Speaker 1: enough away from it that it just leads to questions like,
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Speaker 1: why did you even bother being associated with the source
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Speaker 1: material if you're going to be this far away from it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes people decide to make h a movie
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Speaker 1: or a television show because they love a property, but
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Speaker 1: their idea is just inspired by Yeah. Well, I described it.
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Speaker 1: I described it to people on Twitter. I said it
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Speaker 1: was as if someone had skimmed the Discworld books and
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Speaker 1: then badly described them to somebody else who happened to
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Speaker 1: be a big fan of train Spotting, and that person
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Speaker 1: went and made the series because there is a very
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Speaker 1: kind of punk rock train spotting element to the series
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Speaker 1: that is not something that's inherent in the books. But
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Speaker 1: you know, to teach their own I'm not saying it's
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Speaker 1: a bad series, by the way. I'm saying I didn't
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Speaker 1: like it because I really love the source material, and
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Speaker 1: I just felt that it was so far from that
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Speaker 1: source material that it was more distracting than anything else.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't even think of it as being like, this
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Speaker 1: is a fun alternate universe take on it. To me,
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Speaker 1: it was just like, what's the point? So anyway, But
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Speaker 1: we'll get into more of that in a future episode
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Speaker 1: of Ellency. Not specifically that example necessarily, but this this
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Speaker 1: trend of adaptations or reboots that are only tangentially based
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Speaker 1: on the source material. But for today, we've got some
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Speaker 1: other news to cover. Hey there, it's Jonathan from the future.
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Speaker 1: I'm interrupting this episode of Large Nergron Colleator because our
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Speaker 1: first topic that we covered in this episode was on
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Speaker 1: a news story that was since proven to be false,
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Speaker 1: and so why needed to remove it before this episode aired?
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Speaker 1: And that means that we have an odd transition into
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Speaker 1: what would have been our second story, but now is
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Speaker 1: our first story because that's how time travel works. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for coming on this time travel adventure with me.
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Speaker 1: Let's rejoin the show already in progress. The next thing
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Speaker 1: we want to talk about is Superman and lois the
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Speaker 1: new CW show uh Is has a trailer, Yeah, more
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Speaker 1: of a teaser, but yeah, more it's a it's a teaser.
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Speaker 1: It you know, it came out right around the New Year,
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Speaker 1: and it's not surprising. We knew the show was coming up.
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Speaker 1: We knew that a bunch of other CW superhero shows
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Speaker 1: were ending. You know. I think it's good of them
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Speaker 1: too and shows before they've been on too long and
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Speaker 1: give us new things. I really like uh Superman and
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Speaker 1: Lois as they were depicted in Supergirl. So from my
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Speaker 1: viewing of them in Supergirl, I was excited about this series,
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Speaker 1: but the teaser didn't really spark my interest the same
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Speaker 1: way the news about the show did. Interesting. Now, I
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Speaker 1: never watched Supergirl, so full disclosure, there are we talking
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Speaker 1: about the same actors playing Superman and Lois in this
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Speaker 1: series as from Supergirl? Yes? Okay? And and in the
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Speaker 1: Supergirl series, are they already parents? You know, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think that they because I think that they became
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Speaker 1: children or they became parents in Crisis on Infinite Earth,
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Speaker 1: which full disclosure, I'm still working my way through. But
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Speaker 1: in the new series they are. They have moved back
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Speaker 1: to Smallville, they have two sons um who I believe
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Speaker 1: our teenagers, at least that's the way they look in
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Speaker 1: the teaser. And so the teaser kind of just touches
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Speaker 1: on the fact that there are these the story is
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Speaker 1: going to really revolve around Superman and his family. To me,
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Speaker 1: it raises a lot of questions like how alien and
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Speaker 1: humans have interoperable DNA. But you know, hey, listen, the
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Speaker 1: comics already play with that loose and fast, so the
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Speaker 1: TV show show doing it is nothing new. I will
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Speaker 1: say that when we watched the trailer, it didn't it
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Speaker 1: was very different from any other sort of trailer for
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Speaker 1: c W superhero shows that have seen. It almost looked
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Speaker 1: like an animated comic. Um. And the interesting thing about
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Speaker 1: it is they show a lot of like the crystalline
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Speaker 1: world that you know, the Phantom zone. They showed the
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Speaker 1: Phantom zone in this in Crystals in the original Superman movie. Um.
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Speaker 1: But there is a story in Infinite Crisis where, uh,
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Speaker 1: Superman and super Boy and all these people end up
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Speaker 1: being bad guys because Luther is trying to create their
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Speaker 1: own universe and they escape this crystalline world and then
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Speaker 1: end up killing a bunch of people. Uh, And it's
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Speaker 1: actually a part of that ties into wonder Woman eighty
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Speaker 1: four with uh, wonder Woman and Max Lord. As we
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Speaker 1: saw at the end of the Wonder Woman movie that
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Speaker 1: just came out on Woman A four being repetitive. Everybody
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Speaker 1: sorry w W two because that would be confusing, That
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Speaker 1: would be confusing. But that storyline, even though you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't
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Speaker 1: seen it, isn't exactly as it goes in the comics,
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Speaker 1: is something that ties into that story where Superman is
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Speaker 1: a bad guy and it kind of looks like that
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Speaker 1: in the trailer. Now again, I don't necessarily think they
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Speaker 1: will do that, but it was an interesting parallel considering
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Speaker 1: the release of both um pieces of media. Well, I
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Speaker 1: am so far unenthused by this, But then also to
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Speaker 1: be fair, like I said, I haven't been following any
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Speaker 1: of the d C television series, so arguably this is
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Speaker 1: more because I haven't gone to the trouble of finding
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Speaker 1: those and watching them, rather than a comment on the
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Speaker 1: concept of the show itself. I just feel like this
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Speaker 1: is something that has passed me by, and I'm okay
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Speaker 1: with that. I need to watch more Legends of Tomorrow
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Speaker 1: that's one that hit me poorly at the beginning and
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Speaker 1: then apparently got really good. Our next story is about
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Speaker 1: another trailer, this one for Evangelion or Evan Gillian if
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Speaker 1: you prefer three point oh plus one point oh, which
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Speaker 1: why But anyway, it's the fourth film. I guess that's
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Speaker 1: why because it's the fourth film in the trilogy. But
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Speaker 1: it's the fourth film that is set in this universe
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Speaker 1: and is to conclude the Evangelian storylines, which if you
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Speaker 1: are not familiar, it's an anime series that is all
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Speaker 1: about these young kids or teenagers who are linked to
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Speaker 1: giant mix so very common kind of thread in in
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Speaker 1: Japanese animation, uh, that are battling against angels, these creatures
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Speaker 1: called angels that are threatening to destroy the world. And
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Speaker 1: this one is supposed to kind of wrap things up.
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Speaker 1: The series of Angelian had a pretty definitive ending, but
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Speaker 1: it was also an ending that a lot of people
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Speaker 1: just did not like, so it ended up being kind
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Speaker 1: of red cond It was very very confusing. Yeah, a lot,
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Speaker 1: I think a lot got lost in translation h between
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Speaker 1: the original story and the American translation of it. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: so this new one is is a very different ending
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Speaker 1: and kind of takes all of the MEC pilots to
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Speaker 1: new storylines and new adventures. And yeah, they all of
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Speaker 1: them have been like while concluding, all of them have
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Speaker 1: been like one point one, two point two, three point
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Speaker 1: three three. So yeah, I don't know why they're doing
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Speaker 1: the weird naming convention, but um, I'm excited for it.
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Speaker 1: I watched the entire series. I own all of the
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Speaker 1: videos up to this point. Um so well, And this
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Speaker 1: is a series that has gained a lot of credit
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Speaker 1: for doing things like like reinvigorating anime in Japan and
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Speaker 1: also adding a new interpretation of the Mecca type of
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Speaker 1: animation or the Meca type of trope in Japanese animation,
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Speaker 1: which had kind of run the whole length of where
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Speaker 1: it could go using the more traditional approach. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think of everything from um, you know, like, uh,
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Speaker 1: look at the sort of battle tech type stuff that
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Speaker 1: you can look at. Um Uh. Gigant Or I knew
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Speaker 1: I could think of. I knew if I thought hard
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Speaker 1: enough it would come up to me. But gigant Or
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Speaker 1: a classic old anime. Gigantoor is a great big robot
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Speaker 1: um and he's controlled by a little kid. It's a
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Speaker 1: common theme in Japan Japanese animation, so it'll be good
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Speaker 1: to have this series have a send off. It will
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking forward to it. Along the line of robots,
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Speaker 1: I want to say, another thing that I discovered over
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Speaker 1: the New Year's holiday was the video of Boston Dynamics
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Speaker 1: having all of their robots dance to do You Love Me.
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Speaker 1: So we're going from kind of robot with souls being
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Speaker 1: piloted by kids too, just AI robots piloting themselves. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: these were robots obviously, that were programmed to do a
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Speaker 1: choreographed routine. It's not like they had AI. Yes they were, Yes,
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Speaker 1: serial they were. They were not using AI to just
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Speaker 1: find the group. And you know how I can tell
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Speaker 1: because when you get to the mashed Potato and I
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Speaker 1: can do the twist and all those songs, they actually
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Speaker 1: do the appropriate dance moves for those dances. So yes,
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Speaker 1: it's very cute. I'm sure that most of you have
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Speaker 1: probably seen it. It went viral, but in case you haven't,
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Speaker 1: make sure you search Boston Dynamics Dancing Robots. It is adorable.
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Speaker 1: I am you know, it is adorable, and it took
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Speaker 1: all of these robots that were really cool but kind
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Speaker 1: of creepy. It made them lovable to me. S yes,
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Speaker 1: I agree. All right, Well, let's let's have our wrap up,
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Speaker 1: our final news item for this segment, I'm calling the audible.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the incredible journey of rhetta Twi the
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Speaker 1: TikTok Musical. Yes, so, a bunch of people on TikTok
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Speaker 1: decided they wanted to kind of put together this Foe
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Speaker 1: da Ti musical and then it became a real thing.
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Speaker 1: This is crazy aerial because it started off as one
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Speaker 1: person creating a song and then someone else orchestrating that
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Speaker 1: song as if it were a true Broadway musical, and
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Speaker 1: then other people just leapt in and started to contribute
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Speaker 1: stuff like a playbill and costume design and things like this.
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Speaker 1: And then yeah, ce View Productions announced they were producing
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Speaker 1: the show in association with TikTok. Disney gave its blessing,
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Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of celebrity has jumped into perform
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Speaker 1: in it. You know, Titus Burgess, Wayne Brady, Andre de Shields,
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Speaker 1: who was he was Hermes in Hadestown and he played
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Speaker 1: he played the critic um and read it to it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating to me. The most fascinating part of this,
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Speaker 1: I mean, apart from the fact that it grew organically
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Speaker 1: as a true meme as people began to contribute to it.
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Speaker 1: The other part that I think is fascinating is that
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Speaker 1: Disney said, okay, because that company is notoriously protective of
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Speaker 1: their intellectual property. Yeah, yeah, it's It's pretty fantastic. It's
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Speaker 1: very uplifting. Uh. They sold more than a million dollars
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Speaker 1: in tickets, which all went to the Actors Fund to
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Speaker 1: help all of these Broadway performers who aren't currently working. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you may not be able to watch it. They're saying
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Speaker 1: it's it's only available till January four at seven pm,
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Speaker 1: which is the day we're recording this, So we're talking
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Speaker 1: about it two days late to you. But um, I'm
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Speaker 1: hopeful that they will put it back out on the
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Speaker 1: internet or you can at least catch clips of this
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Speaker 1: if you haven't already. My hope is that there will
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Speaker 1: be a video on demand thing where you can continue
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Speaker 1: to make like a contribution to the Actors Fund and
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Speaker 1: be able to see it. But that all depends upon
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Speaker 1: you know, there there may actually be agreements in place
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Speaker 1: that with Disney that says that this was a one
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Speaker 1: and one time only thing. I don't know, but that
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Speaker 1: wraps up our news for the beginning of one. And
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Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna have a deeper dive
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Speaker 1: discussion about something that Aerial calls the Goonies effect, but
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Speaker 1: that will be after this break, all right, So let's
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Speaker 1: talk about the Goonies effect? Ariel, what is the Goonies effect?
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Speaker 1: You coined this phrase. I did not coin this phrase.
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Speaker 1: My friends coins this phrase, but it makes a lot
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Speaker 1: of sense to me. So they's effect is when you've
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Speaker 1: got a movie that you watched as a kid a
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Speaker 1: teenager and you absolutely loved it, just like the transformational
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Speaker 1: movie to you, and then you show it to a
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Speaker 1: friend who didn't watch it when the movie came out,
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Speaker 1: who didn't watch it at a pivotal time in their life,
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Speaker 1: and to them, it's just okay, or even worse, or
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Speaker 1: even worse, or it's a bad movie. So one of
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Speaker 1: the movies I hear this most often about is Goonies.
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Speaker 1: If you if you watched Goonies when you were a
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Speaker 1: kid or a teenager, you probably really liked it. And
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Speaker 1: then if you watched it as an adult, it may
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Speaker 1: not have hit home for you because you're just not
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Speaker 1: in that period of your life anymore. It may it
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Speaker 1: may feel like it's just a bunch of kids constantly screaming,
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Speaker 1: because that's kind of what that movie is. And I
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Speaker 1: say that as someone who actually enjoyed it because I
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Speaker 1: was a kid when that movie came out. The movie
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Speaker 1: came out, So I was ten when the movie came out,
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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I was the right age for that
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Speaker 1: to really hit home, and I enjoyed it, and um yeah,
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Speaker 1: as an adult, I can recognize, like I still can
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Speaker 1: watch it and enjoy it because I still have that
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Speaker 1: that nostalgic link to it, but I also can recognize
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Speaker 1: that it's not necessarily the best film in the world.
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Speaker 1: So so our friend shay Lee, Uh, she is someone
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Speaker 1: who does not like the Goonies, and she's told me,
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Speaker 1: she's like, I've tried, I've tried watching it. I don't
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Speaker 1: like it. But she's younger than both of us, and
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Speaker 1: she didn't grow up with that movie and it didn't
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Speaker 1: come out at a time where it would have kind
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Speaker 1: of latched onto her. So I've definitely experienced this. I
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Speaker 1: think it can go the other way too. There can
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Speaker 1: be movies that are pivotal for younger generations that just
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Speaker 1: don't resonate with older ones. So for example, like I
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Speaker 1: know a lot of people who were about maybe five
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Speaker 1: to ten years younger than I am, who really likes
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Speaker 1: sand Lot, I couldn't care less. Or as going back
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Speaker 1: to our friend, say, she loves the movie hocus Pocus,
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Speaker 1: and I know a lot of my friends who are
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Speaker 1: of her age or even your age Aeriel, which is
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Speaker 1: not that much older than she. I want to be clear,
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Speaker 1: Ariel is younger than I am, but older than Shay.
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Speaker 1: But but like people in in that age group tend
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Speaker 1: to really like that movie, and again it does nothing
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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I would agree. Hocus Pocus is one
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Speaker 1: I didn't watch until i'd say the last five years,
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Speaker 1: and it was cute, but it wasn't the end, I'll
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Speaker 1: be all to me. And I think maybe that's because
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Speaker 1: other movies have done that concept better since that time,
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Speaker 1: and that's what I was introduced to. You know, for me,
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Speaker 1: I think my biggest, my favorite Goonies effect movie is
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Speaker 1: not the third Star Wars movie, as much as I
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Speaker 1: love E Walks, because that's another big one. If you know,
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Speaker 1: there's a big ag app on whether you like e
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Speaker 1: walks or not theory. Um, but Flight to the Navigator interesting, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the one that it's a story about a young boy
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Speaker 1: befriending and artificially intelligent spaceship. Spaceship voiced by pee Wee Herman. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and it's got Sarah Jessica Parker in it. And to me,
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Speaker 1: this this movie was like the best sci fi movie.
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Speaker 1: It's it's what took sci fi and made it relatable
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Speaker 1: to me. And I loved it and I still love it.
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Speaker 1: And whenever I try to introduce somebody to it now
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Speaker 1: it's hard to even get them to agree to sit
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Speaker 1: through the entire thing because they look at it and say,
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Speaker 1: why do I want to watch a kid's sci fi
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Speaker 1: from the eighties and nineties with bad special effects? Now,
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Speaker 1: I don't think these special effects are that bad. They
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Speaker 1: used a lot of puppets, but yeah, and they had
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Speaker 1: some like c g I stuff too. The spaceship could
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Speaker 1: change shape and it was a c G I but
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Speaker 1: it was very shiny, like chrome like space ship that
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Speaker 1: was able to you know, because there wasn't a lot
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Speaker 1: of detail there. It was more like shapes and angles
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Speaker 1: that it worked out pretty well. Yeah, And a lot
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Speaker 1: of the movies that that you have listed on our
22:10
Speaker 1: little list here feels like, uh like. Part of this
22:15
Speaker 1: is also in pacing, because a lot of the movies
22:17
Speaker 1: from say, when we were kids had a slightly more
22:21
Speaker 1: methodical pace to them. They were slower paced, and some
22:24
Speaker 1: of them are even slow paced for the movies of
22:26
Speaker 1: their day. Like one of the movies you have listed
22:28
Speaker 1: here is Tron, meaning the original Tron, I imagine, not
22:32
Speaker 1: Tron legacy. Yeah, Tron. I fully agree Tron. I love Tron,
22:37
Speaker 1: and it came out when I was a kid, and
22:39
Speaker 1: I thought that movie was absolutely spectacular, But as a kid,
22:45
Speaker 1: I wasn't really following the story so much. I just
22:47
Speaker 1: thought the visuals were really really cool. As an adult
22:51
Speaker 1: watching that movie, I'm like, holy cow, there's a lot
22:55
Speaker 1: of dead time this movie. This movie has got got
22:59
Speaker 1: long maretches where nothing interesting is happening, even in the
23:03
Speaker 1: weird setting that the movie takes place in, which is,
23:05
Speaker 1: you know, uh, the inside a computer. Um. But yeah,
23:10
Speaker 1: Tron is one of those where I would say, like
23:12
Speaker 1: getting someone a younger person who never experienced it to
23:16
Speaker 1: watch it, they would probably be bored to tears because
23:19
Speaker 1: the effects are no longer groundbreaking, so that part is
23:23
Speaker 1: not going to get them. And the story is a
23:27
Speaker 1: little plotting, so I think that one falls in there.
23:30
Speaker 1: I think Dark Crystal, as much as it hurts me
23:32
Speaker 1: to say that, also kind of falls into it. That's
23:34
Speaker 1: kind of a methodically paced movie. Yeah. Um. Tenth Kingdom
23:39
Speaker 1: was one that I swear was amazing and I went
23:42
Speaker 1: back to watch it the other weekend. I still love it,
23:44
Speaker 1: but trying to show it to anybody else is a
23:45
Speaker 1: little embarrassing. Which is a mini series that actually Hallmark did,
23:49
Speaker 1: I didn't know at the time. Yeah, um, you know.
23:56
Speaker 1: And then there's some that have aged better than I
23:58
Speaker 1: thought big. I thought for sure it have a big
24:02
Speaker 1: Gooonies effect. Yeah. Well, also BI also has one very
24:06
Speaker 1: problematic scene, but it does. It hasn't aged super well,
24:11
Speaker 1: but it aged well enough to get a Broadway musical.
24:13
Speaker 1: That's yeah. Yeah. And some movies I think still can
24:17
Speaker 1: resonate with people. I think it just depends on their sensibilities. Um.
24:21
Speaker 1: But others I think really are hard to to get
24:26
Speaker 1: people hooked on. Like there are movies from my childhood
24:30
Speaker 1: that I know are very difficult to um to connect
24:35
Speaker 1: to younger audiences. In fact, I've done the whole series
24:38
Speaker 1: of videos and with with Shay called Age of Cinema,
24:42
Speaker 1: where we would introduce films to each other. So she
24:45
Speaker 1: would show me movies that she had seen that I
24:47
Speaker 1: had not and tried to explain why they were important
24:50
Speaker 1: to her and see what I got out of them.
24:52
Speaker 1: And I've done the same with her, and uh, it
24:55
Speaker 1: is very interesting to see the results of that on
24:57
Speaker 1: both sides, because we have no is this effect in
25:01
Speaker 1: both ways, and we are largely picking movies that we
25:05
Speaker 1: first encountered as as you know, a kid, that have
25:08
Speaker 1: become important parts of kind of our cultural touchstone. So
25:13
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting to see how this disconnect can happen. Yeah,
25:17
Speaker 1: I mean even recently so, I just watched Elf for
25:19
Speaker 1: the first time this holiday season, and I'm I wasn't
25:24
Speaker 1: a huge fan. I can see why people would like it,
25:28
Speaker 1: especially if they were introduced to it when it first
25:31
Speaker 1: came out, when you either had very sarcastic Christmas movies
25:35
Speaker 1: or you had very saccering Christmas movies, but you didn't
25:38
Speaker 1: have something kind of bridging that gap. And I feel
25:41
Speaker 1: like a lot of our media now plays more on
25:43
Speaker 1: on the cheekiness than did when Elf first came out.
25:48
Speaker 1: So I think I just missed the gap on that one. Yeah, yeah,
25:50
Speaker 1: there there. I'm sure there are plenty of movies that
25:52
Speaker 1: our listeners can here think of that are are falling
25:55
Speaker 1: into this category too. About these are these are movies
25:58
Speaker 1: that I think are They're not necessarily timely in the
26:02
Speaker 1: sense of their references having been tied to a specific
26:07
Speaker 1: time period or their jokes being reliant upon that, Like
26:11
Speaker 1: this isn't the types of movies where they're constantly making
26:15
Speaker 1: pop culture references and that dates the movie. But they
26:18
Speaker 1: are timely in the sense that the sensibility of the film,
26:22
Speaker 1: the perhaps the production value of the movie, these are
26:25
Speaker 1: the things that really anchor it to the time period
26:28
Speaker 1: when it came out, and they they failed to become
26:31
Speaker 1: evergreen or timeless. So there's some movies that I think
26:35
Speaker 1: do become timeless, that you know, generations can enjoy despite
26:40
Speaker 1: the fact that they might be many years removed from
26:43
Speaker 1: the origin of that film. But these are more movies
26:47
Speaker 1: that are you know, you kind of had to be
26:49
Speaker 1: at the right place at the right time to see
26:51
Speaker 1: them for them to really have an effect, which is
26:54
Speaker 1: it hurts. It hurts my heart because they means so
26:57
Speaker 1: much to me and they mean so little to under
26:59
Speaker 1: I understand that. But at the same time, there's so
27:02
Speaker 1: many things that my younger friends really love that just
27:06
Speaker 1: the appeal completely escapes me. And I realized that I'm
27:09
Speaker 1: just the old man yelling at a cloud. That's that's
27:12
Speaker 1: who I've become. Well, speaking of yelling at clouds, we've
27:16
Speaker 1: got to really I think going to be fun mash
27:19
Speaker 1: up for you. But first let's take a quick break, Okay, Ariel,
27:37
Speaker 1: So you are the mastermind of picking mash ups. So
27:43
Speaker 1: we've mentioned one of the two properties that we're going
27:46
Speaker 1: to mash up today, that being the Goonies. We wanted
27:49
Speaker 1: to take that as a starting point. What was the
27:52
Speaker 1: other property, uh, Guardians of the Galaxy. And I picked
27:57
Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy for two reasons. One because Peter Quill,
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Speaker 1: who's the main character of regarding the Galaxy, really loves
28:06
Speaker 1: nostalgic things from the eighties, so yeah, and late seventies,
28:10
Speaker 1: in late seventies, so like Goonies would be his saying.
28:13
Speaker 1: Actually Goonies came out after he was abducted, but whatever.
28:16
Speaker 1: U And Two because it's got a group of friends
28:21
Speaker 1: that go on adventures together that um have some a
28:26
Speaker 1: few Solalaabic speaking members. Yes, yeah, yeah, Okay, Well this
28:32
Speaker 1: is already making me worry that my version is going
28:34
Speaker 1: to be very close to yours. So once again I
28:36
Speaker 1: ask you Arie, do you want to go first or
28:38
Speaker 1: do you want to go second? Um, I'll go first,
28:41
Speaker 1: all right, all right, let's see if this is the
28:44
Speaker 1: week that we old line. All right, it's twenty years
28:47
Speaker 1: after the events of the first Goonies, So the Gloony
28:52
Speaker 1: Goonies plus Sloth I'll reconnect in the goon docks. Feeling
28:56
Speaker 1: like their lives have been blanned ever since their adventures
28:59
Speaker 1: where they found my Willie's treasure and saved their town.
29:04
Speaker 1: They gather in the Welsh's old family attic, and that's
29:06
Speaker 1: where they find it, a second treasure map belonging to
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Speaker 1: one Eyed Willie. When they remove it from the floorboards
29:12
Speaker 1: because they found it in the floorboards of the attic,
29:15
Speaker 1: high pitch sound emits from the item. That's weird, but
29:19
Speaker 1: you know, these kids love weird, so whatever, they just
29:21
Speaker 1: shrug it off. They're not even kids anymore. These adults
29:24
Speaker 1: just shrug it off. And they decide to follow the
29:26
Speaker 1: map to its treasure for old time's sake. They go
29:28
Speaker 1: through all the booby traps like before, and while they
29:31
Speaker 1: anticipate them more, they're also much bigger and so this
29:34
Speaker 1: time it's a It's still a difficult journey, but eventually
29:37
Speaker 1: they reached the cavern that holds One Eyed Willie's second ship.
29:40
Speaker 1: Just as they entered the cavern, so does a set
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Speaker 1: of Ravagers. Turns out, the treasure map, once removed from
29:47
Speaker 1: the attic, set off a beacon to willie ship, a
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Speaker 1: spaceship man Willie got around. You see, One Eyed Willie
29:55
Speaker 1: was the ancestor of Worker, a member of the Yondu
29:58
Speaker 1: Ravager clan who had been searched for his ancestral treasure
30:01
Speaker 1: to buy off the rest of the Ravager team and
30:04
Speaker 1: overthrow Yon. Do if you don't remember who Worker is,
30:07
Speaker 1: he's the one whose eye got stolen because he only
30:09
Speaker 1: actually is one eye. Uh. The Goonies plus Sloth and
30:13
Speaker 1: the Ravagers face off. Don't worry, it's not an unfair
30:16
Speaker 1: fight because the Ravagers, being Ravagers, lost all of their
30:19
Speaker 1: weapons in the attempt to make it through the booby traps. Also,
30:23
Speaker 1: the Gooneys learned that the Ravagers can't swim, and once
30:25
Speaker 1: they knock Worker into the water and realize that the
30:27
Speaker 1: rest of the Ravagers get knocked in right behind. Unfortunately,
30:31
Speaker 1: all the scuffle caused the cavern exits to collapse and
30:33
Speaker 1: the only way out is for the Goonies to try
30:35
Speaker 1: to use the spaceship. With enough button mashing, they get
30:39
Speaker 1: sent out into space and that's where this mashup ends,
30:44
Speaker 1: except for there is a post credit scene with them
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Speaker 1: docking with Peter quill Ship and Sloth and Groot having
30:50
Speaker 1: a conversation in the foreground. I am Groot, Sloth love Groot.
30:55
Speaker 1: The end Well, I can tell you that our versions
30:58
Speaker 1: are not the same. So now sit back, relax and
31:04
Speaker 1: enjoy Goonies of the Galaxy. It's and Mikey Walsh and
31:11
Speaker 1: his friends are in a pickle. Seems that a local
31:13
Speaker 1: country club is dead set on kicking them all out
31:16
Speaker 1: of house and home, having bought up the mortgages to
31:18
Speaker 1: their parents homes and preparing to foreclose on all of
31:22
Speaker 1: them unless the parents should I don't know, happen to
31:25
Speaker 1: find some sort of magnificent treasure or something. As Mikey
31:29
Speaker 1: and his buddy's data Chunk and Mouth commiserate over the
31:33
Speaker 1: fact that they will soon be forced to move. A
31:35
Speaker 1: bright light shines down from the skies above. It's a
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Speaker 1: spaceship called the Inferno, captain by a blue mohawk alien
31:44
Speaker 1: dude with an eye patch one eyed yawn due yon
31:47
Speaker 1: dude captures the boys and brings them aboard his ship,
31:50
Speaker 1: flying off into the night. The kids only have the
31:53
Speaker 1: stuff that was on them at the time, which thankfully
31:56
Speaker 1: includes a killer mixed tape of early eighties songs. Cyndi
31:59
Speaker 1: Lauper is on there a lot. Two decades later, we
32:04
Speaker 1: see the four friends on a distant planet. They are
32:07
Speaker 1: no longer with one eyed yon du Instead, they've become
32:10
Speaker 1: intergalactic ne'er do wells. Data is a cyborg, now with
32:14
Speaker 1: about half his body replaced by various robotic limbs and gadgets,
32:18
Speaker 1: including slick shoes, which his friends tell him is crazy.
32:22
Speaker 1: Mouth is the fast talking con man of the group,
32:25
Speaker 1: skilled at social manipulation, or at least irritating people so
32:29
Speaker 1: that they're distracted. Chunk is now Hunk, having grown out
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Speaker 1: of his chubby phase and packed on some serious muscle,
32:36
Speaker 1: and Mikey is still Mikey. The leader of the gang,
32:40
Speaker 1: the Voice of Reason, and the Eternal Optimist. The four
32:43
Speaker 1: friends find a mysterious book that has a coded message
32:46
Speaker 1: inside it telling them of a fabled treasure. It's an
32:49
Speaker 1: ORB on a seemingly deserted planet, guarded by various booby
32:53
Speaker 1: traps and puzzles. One by one, the group solves the
32:56
Speaker 1: puzzles blocking their way. The team retrieves the orb, which
33:00
Speaker 1: sets off one eyed yon Du who's also after it,
33:03
Speaker 1: and the minions of a cree named Ronan, the Destroyer.
33:07
Speaker 1: The four attempt to evade being captured and moreover, losing
33:10
Speaker 1: the ORB as they traverse the galaxy. Before long, they
33:14
Speaker 1: find themselves teamed up with four other odd folks. One
33:18
Speaker 1: is Gamurra, former minion of the powerful alien Thanos. One
33:22
Speaker 1: is Drax, a literal minded alien intent on getting revenge
33:25
Speaker 1: on Ronan. One is Rocket, a raccoon like creature who
33:28
Speaker 1: can talk, and the fourth is Sloth. Rockets dearest friend,
33:32
Speaker 1: who can only communicate with I am Sloth, but Rocket
33:36
Speaker 1: understands them. Together, they must try to prevent Ronan and
33:40
Speaker 1: his henchman, the Fratellis, from getting hold of the orb,
33:43
Speaker 1: which actually holds the power stone in the end, Good
33:46
Speaker 1: triumphs over Evil, and Cindy Lauper sings us out and
33:50
Speaker 1: we're left to wonder, Hey, why didn't those kids ever
33:53
Speaker 1: bother to go back to Earth and see how folks
33:54
Speaker 1: were doing. Oh, also, Hunk teaches Drax how to do
33:57
Speaker 1: the truffle shuffle the end. My hat off to you, Jonathan.
34:02
Speaker 1: That was amazing, And that was a mashup. Mine was
34:05
Speaker 1: more of a sequel. So well, I I started with
34:10
Speaker 1: the what if what if Groot was Sloth. I'm like,
34:13
Speaker 1: I realized, I'm removing potentially the most beloved character run
34:18
Speaker 1: the Guardians of the Galaxy series, But then I thought
34:21
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I would do anyway, because I'm kind
34:24
Speaker 1: of a jerk face. Well, Sloth was also very lovable,
34:29
Speaker 1: and for what it's worth, I did name mine Goonies
34:31
Speaker 1: of the Galaxy. I almost named it Guardians of the
34:34
Speaker 1: goon Docks, but I was waiting to hear. I was
34:37
Speaker 1: waiting to hear what you named yours, and I was
34:39
Speaker 1: either going to go I was gonna go the other way.
34:41
Speaker 1: I was either going to be Goonies of the Galaxy
34:43
Speaker 1: or Guardians of the Goonies. So either way it would
34:47
Speaker 1: have I would have gone with it, but since you
34:49
Speaker 1: didn't name yours at the top, I was like, all right,
34:50
Speaker 1: I'm safe here. But that was that was our take
34:54
Speaker 1: on a mashup of what it would look like if
34:56
Speaker 1: you mixed the Goonies with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
34:59
Speaker 1: And we're curious if you guys have any thoughts on
35:03
Speaker 1: what such a mashup would look like. Would it be
35:05
Speaker 1: similar to what we did, or would you go a
35:07
Speaker 1: totally different direction. If you have any ideas on that
35:10
Speaker 1: or maybe other mashups you would like us to do
35:12
Speaker 1: in the future, let us know or even you know,
35:14
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35:33
Speaker 1: what movies you think you love that have a Goonies effect. Yeah,
35:36
Speaker 1: I might watch it. Yeah, that that that'd be good
35:38
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