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- 0:05(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Hi, I'm Chris.
- 0:07This is Finding God at Work.
- 0:14Just a reminder that Finding God at Work
- 0:16isn't just a podcast, it's also an online
- 0:18course.
- 0:19Check it out at FindingGodAtWork.org.
- 0:27We're continuing with our new series, Take a
- 0:30Stand, Faithful Political Witness at Work.
- 0:35And in our first part of this series,
- 0:37we're going to look at that word, faithful,
- 0:39and kind of tease it out into four
- 0:40parts.
- 0:41So what does it mean to be prayerful,
- 0:43to be thoughtful, to be gentle, and to
- 0:47be courageous in political conversations and in relation
- 0:50to political issues as they come up at
- 0:52the workplace?
- 0:53So prayerful, thoughtful, gentle, courageous.
- 0:58So we're starting with prayerful.
- 1:00And I want to start with a story
- 1:01that might not seem like it's about politics
- 1:03at first.
- 1:05It's the story of a woman who was,
- 1:07to use the biblical term, barren.
- 1:09She was experiencing infertility.
- 1:13And she's in deep grief.
- 1:15And her response is a response of prayer.
- 1:18And we'll see in this story of Hannah
- 1:20from the book of 1 Samuel, how her
- 1:24prayerful response to her grief puts her at
- 1:28the center of God's redemptive political action.
- 1:34Her prayerful response to her grief puts her
- 1:37at the center of God's redemptive political action.
- 1:41Hannah is an icon for us.
- 1:43She's an example to imitate.
- 1:45And her story is an instance of God's
- 1:49faithfulness in the midst of political and social
- 1:52distress of many kinds.
- 1:54So let's go to Hannah's story.
- 1:56This is in 1 Samuel chapter 1.
- 1:59And I'll just be skipping around a bit.
- 2:01So her husband is named Elkanah.
- 2:04She is one of two wives, again, ancient
- 2:07Near Eastern culture, polygamy very common, and honor
- 2:11shame culture.
- 2:12And she had had no children.
- 2:13And so relative to her husband's other wife,
- 2:16she was experiencing shame and disgrace and scorn.
- 2:20So picking up in verse 9, once when
- 2:23they had finished eating and drinking in Shiloh,
- 2:26Hannah stood up.
- 2:27Now Eli the priest was on his chair
- 2:29by the door post of the Lord's house.
- 2:31In her deep anguish, Hannah prayed to the
- 2:33Lord weeping bitterly.
- 2:35And she made a vow saying, Lord Almighty,
- 2:39if you will only look on your servant's
- 2:40misery and remember me and not forget your
- 2:43servant, but give her a son, then I
- 2:46will give him to the Lord for all
- 2:47the days of his life.
- 2:49And no razor will ever be used on
- 2:51his head.
- 2:52As she kept on praying to the Lord,
- 2:54Eli observed her mouth.
- 2:56Hannah was praying in her heart and her
- 2:57lips were moving, but her voice was not
- 2:59heard.
- 3:00Eli thought she was drunk and said to
- 3:02her, how long are you going to stay
- 3:03drunk?
- 3:03Put away your wine.
- 3:05Not so, my Lord.
- 3:06Hannah replied, I am a woman who is
- 3:08deeply troubled.
- 3:10I have not been drinking wine or beer.
- 3:11I was pouring out my soul to the
- 3:13Lord.
- 3:14Do not take your servant for a wicked
- 3:15woman.
- 3:16I have been praying here out of my
- 3:17great anguish and grief.
- 3:21Eli answered, go in peace and may the
- 3:24God of Israel grant you what you have
- 3:26asked of him.
- 3:28She said, may your servant find favor in
- 3:30your eyes.
- 3:31Then she went her way and ate something
- 3:33and her face was no longer downcast.
- 3:37Early the next morning, they arose and worshiped
- 3:39before the Lord.
- 3:40And then they went back to their home
- 3:41at Rama.
- 3:43Elkanah made love to his wife, Hannah, and
- 3:45the Lord remembered her.
- 3:47So in the course of time, Hannah became
- 3:48pregnant and gave birth to a son.
- 3:51She named him Samuel saying, because I asked
- 3:54the Lord for him.
- 3:59This is such a beautiful story.
- 4:01It has so many layers of poetic beauty
- 4:05and literary beauty and theological beauty.
- 4:07I'm really tempted to just like pivot and
- 4:09do a whole series about Hannah.
- 4:11But for the sake of our conversation about
- 4:14politics, what do we see going on for
- 4:19Hannah?
- 4:20This might not seem like it's about politics
- 4:21at first, but she's in a social environment
- 4:23where she's in a polygous marriage.
- 4:26She doesn't have a lot of personal agency
- 4:28in that culture outside of her status as
- 4:31a wife and potential mother.
- 4:34And we could pause and critique that culture,
- 4:37but that's not what we want to do
- 4:38right now.
- 4:38We want to enter into what Hannah is
- 4:40experiencing inside of that culture.
- 4:42So she's experiencing disgrace.
- 4:44She's experiencing shame.
- 4:47She's in competition with her husband's other wife,
- 4:51and she's also in great distress.
- 4:53So not only is she experiencing shame, she's
- 4:54experiencing grief.
- 4:56It appears that perhaps beyond the honor-shame
- 4:59dynamic, she also just has a deep desire
- 5:01for a child.
- 5:05Now Hannah's response to this deep desire is
- 5:09to go to the place of the presence
- 5:11of God, Shiloh, where the place of worship,
- 5:13the temple at that time was at Shiloh,
- 5:15and she goes and she pours out her
- 5:18anguish, weeping bitterly to the Lord.
- 5:23She's praying with her lips moving, but not
- 5:26with her voice.
- 5:27And then Eli, you got to chalk one
- 5:29up for pastoral insensitivity here, assumes she's drunk
- 5:32and calls her out about that incorrectly.
- 5:35She defends herself appropriately.
- 5:37Eli at least kind of makes a quasi
- 5:39-appropriate recovery and says, okay, may God bless
- 5:41you.
- 5:42And in the mystery of God using very
- 5:44flawed leaders, it seems that God honors this
- 5:48word of blessing that Eli says and uses
- 5:50that to bless Hannah and to give her
- 5:53a child.
- 5:55And so God takes this woman who's experiencing
- 5:59shame and disgrace and grief, and instead he
- 6:04gives her honor and joy.
- 6:07It says her face is no longer downcast.
- 6:09She has this honor of becoming a mother
- 6:11of a son and a son whom, as
- 6:13she has promised, she will give to the
- 6:15service of God at his temple.
- 6:19Okay, so what we see here is a
- 6:21moment.
- 6:21It's a family moment.
- 6:23It's a social moment.
- 6:24It may not immediately seem like a political
- 6:25moment, but it's a moment of God turning
- 6:28the tables.
- 6:30He's taking someone who's shamed and downcast, downtrodden,
- 6:35outcast, marginalized, socially powerless, and he's exalting them,
- 6:41honoring them, changing their circumstances, giving them what
- 6:44they need, giving them what they desire, making
- 6:46them shine with his beauty and his favor
- 6:50and his blessing.
- 6:53And this is something that we see again
- 6:54and again throughout the scriptures.
- 6:56This is one instance of what Dallas Willard
- 6:59in his great book, The Divine Conspiracy, calls
- 7:01the Great Inversion, that God exalts the humble
- 7:05and humbles the exalted.
- 7:08This is part of how God operates in
- 7:10the world.
- 7:11And this is a corrective to our human
- 7:14assumptions about who is truly well off.
- 7:18So every culture has different assumptions about who
- 7:20is truly well off.
- 7:21In this culture, there is an assumption that
- 7:23the wife who has children is well off.
- 7:26The wife who does not is not well
- 7:28off.
- 7:28In our culture, it might be a different
- 7:30assumption.
- 7:30It might be the highly educated person is
- 7:32well off.
- 7:33The person without a high education is not
- 7:36well off.
- 7:37In almost every culture, wealth and power are
- 7:40signs of who is well off.
- 7:42The truly wealthy, the truly powerful, those are
- 7:44the people that have the dollars and the
- 7:46political connections to get what they want, and
- 7:48those who are relatively poor or politically powerless,
- 7:53they, well, in human terms, they're losers.
- 7:57They don't have a say about what really
- 7:59happens.
- 8:00Their life is a life of grief and
- 8:02anguish.
- 8:05So that's our basic human assumption, right?
- 8:08But then God turns the tables.
- 8:10God exalts the humble and humbles the exalted.
- 8:14He does that for Hannah in this story.
- 8:16And then Hannah expresses this in very political
- 8:20terms, in a beautiful lyrical prayer of praise
- 8:24to God for what He has done.
- 8:26So this is the next chapter for Samuel
- 8:28chapter two, and I want to read this
- 8:30prayer and then kind of reflect on how
- 8:32we see this pattern of God humbling the
- 8:34exalted and exalting the humble throughout this prayer.
- 8:37So listen for that as I read it.
- 8:40Then Hannah prayed and said, My heart rejoices
- 8:43in the Lord, in the Lord my horn
- 8:45is lifted high, my mouth boasts over my
- 8:48enemies, for I delight in your deliverance.
- 8:51There is no one holy like the Lord,
- 8:53there is no one besides you, there is
- 8:55no rock like our God.
- 8:58Do not keep talking so proudly or let
- 9:00your mouth speak with such arrogance, for the
- 9:03Lord is a God who knows, and by
- 9:05Him deeds are weighed.
- 9:06The bows of the warriors are broken, but
- 9:10those who stumbled are armed with strength.
- 9:13Those who were full hire themselves out for
- 9:15food, but those who were hungry are hungry
- 9:18no more.
- 9:19She who was barren has borne seven children,
- 9:22but she who has had many sons pines
- 9:24away.
- 9:26The Lord brings death and makes alive.
- 9:28He brings down to the grave and raises
- 9:30up.
- 9:31The Lord sends poverty and wealth.
- 9:33He exalts.
- 9:34He raises the poor from the dust and
- 9:36lifts the needy from the ash heap.
- 9:38He seats them with princes and has them
- 9:40inherit a throne of honor.
- 9:43For the foundations of the earth are the
- 9:45Lord's.
- 9:45On them He has set the world.
- 9:47He will guard the feet of His faithful
- 9:49servants, but the wicked will be silenced in
- 9:52the place of darkness.
- 9:53It is not by strength that one prevails.
- 9:56Those who oppose the Lord will be broken.
- 9:59The Most High will thunder from heaven.
- 10:01The Lord will judge the ends of the
- 10:02earth.
- 10:03He will give strength to His King and
- 10:05exalt the horn of His anointed.
- 10:11Okay, so looking at this incredible prayer, let's
- 10:14look at who are the winners.
- 10:16The winners who we would assume are well
- 10:18off according to normal standard human evaluation.
- 10:22Well, Hannah mentions a few people.
- 10:24In verse 3, she addresses people directly.
- 10:27She says, do not keep talking so proudly
- 10:29or let your mouth speak with such arrogance.
- 10:32So often people who speak proudly and arrogantly,
- 10:35people who are boastful, people who brag all
- 10:37the time, because they have something to brag
- 10:39about, those people sometimes are winners in society.
- 10:43They've won something and they're bragging about it.
- 10:45Then she mentioned some other categories.
- 10:47She mentions the bows of the warriors, so
- 10:50people that have military strength or literal physical
- 10:52strength.
- 10:53She mentions those who were full, so people
- 10:56who, their bellies are full.
- 10:59They have food.
- 11:00They have access to the resources they need.
- 11:01So these are people who are economically prosperous.
- 11:05She mentions relevant to her own situation, she
- 11:08who has had many sons.
- 11:10So somebody, again, who is honored in that
- 11:12culture because she's brought forth sons in that
- 11:16patriarchal, polygamous culture, somebody who's highly honored.
- 11:22She gives some other examples.
- 11:25She mentions princes.
- 11:28Okay, so all of these folks are winners
- 11:30in normal human terms.
- 11:31We would normally think those people have a
- 11:33good life, those people haven't made.
- 11:35But what happens to those people in Hannah's
- 11:38beautiful prayer?
- 11:39Well, she says, do not keep talking so
- 11:42proudly or let your mouth speak with arrogance.
- 11:45For the Lord is a God who knows,
- 11:47and by him deeds are weighed.
- 11:50You might be bragging about something, but the
- 11:51Lord knows what's really going on.
- 11:53He's the one that's really evaluating your behavior.
- 11:56And then similarly, the bows of the warriors
- 11:58are broken.
- 12:00Those who were full hire themselves out for
- 12:03food.
- 12:04She who has had many sons pines away.
- 12:08Okay, now on the flip side, who are
- 12:10the losers in normal human evaluation?
- 12:13Well, those would be people who stumbled.
- 12:17They don't have physical strength.
- 12:19Those who were hungry, who, to use a
- 12:21contemporary term, face food insecurity.
- 12:23They don't know where their next meal is
- 12:24going to come from for them or their
- 12:25household.
- 12:27For those who are barren, again, relevant to
- 12:30Hannah's own situation.
- 12:32Those who experience poverty, those who are poor,
- 12:35those who are needy.
- 12:37What happens to all of these people in
- 12:39Hannah's beautiful prayer?
- 12:41It says, those who stumbled are armed with
- 12:44strength.
- 12:45Those who were hungry are hungry no more.
- 12:49She who was barren has born seven children.
- 12:53He raises the poor from the dust and
- 12:55lifts the needy from the ash sheep.
- 12:57He sits them with princes and has them
- 12:59inherit a throne of honor.
- 13:02Now, if you don't know the whole story
- 13:04of First and Second Samuel, what's going on
- 13:07in this prayer is Hannah is actually giving
- 13:09us a preview of what God is going
- 13:11to do, what his redemptive political action will
- 13:14be in the nation of Israel.
- 13:16Because this son whom she has born, whom
- 13:19she has brought to light and life, and
- 13:21then given to the service of the Lord,
- 13:23his name is Samuel.
- 13:25And he is the one by whom God
- 13:27will judge the house of Eli.
- 13:29So Mr. Insensitive, who assumed that Hannah was
- 13:33drunk, not only was he insensitive in that
- 13:35moment, but he also was very irresponsible in
- 13:38his spiritual leadership, particularly regard to his relationship
- 13:40with his sons and their oppression of people.
- 13:44God holds him to account.
- 13:46God humbles the house of Eli and exalts
- 13:49Samuel.
- 13:51This pattern that Hannah is talking about that's
- 13:53happened to her is going to happen to
- 13:55her son as well.
- 13:55He's going to be exalted.
- 13:57He's going to become the last and in
- 13:58some ways the most influential of the judges,
- 14:01because he's going to be the one that
- 14:02institutes the monarchy.
- 14:04But then even once the monarchy is instituted,
- 14:06God does it again.
- 14:07So Saul, the first king, he departs from
- 14:10the way of the Lord.
- 14:11He's humbled, and God exalts this poor shepherd
- 14:13boy David to become king.
- 14:15And Samuel is also the one who anoints
- 14:17David.
- 14:17So it's like we're getting this preview that
- 14:19God's going to keep doing this thing where
- 14:20he keeps turning the tables.
- 14:22He keeps exalting the humble again and again.
- 14:25It's going to happen in Israel's history.
- 14:28It's going to happen in a way that
- 14:29preserves his covenant purposes.
- 14:31It's going to happen in a way that
- 14:32ultimately leads to the anointing of Jesus as
- 14:36Messiah, the son of David.
- 14:39God's ultimate redemptive political action, the cross of
- 14:42Jesus Christ, comes in the same narrative that
- 14:45Hannah has stepped into because of her prayerful
- 14:48response to her grief.
- 14:51Hannah is stepping into the ultimate eternal purposes
- 14:54of God simply by coming to God and
- 14:57her moment of grief and prayer.
- 15:03So what can we learn from Hannah as
- 15:06we think about political conversations in the workplace?
- 15:11Well, like Hannah, we want to have a
- 15:12posture of prayer.
- 15:15Hannah stood up.
- 15:16She went to the temple at Shiloh.
- 15:19She came to the place of God's presence
- 15:21and poured out her soul to him, weeping
- 15:24bitterly.
- 15:25That was her first posture of response to
- 15:28this great grief and anguish in her life
- 15:30was to go to the presence of God,
- 15:33to go to the place of prayer.
- 15:35So our first response to politics writ large,
- 15:40to any political issue we might encounter as
- 15:42Christians, our first response is to be prayerful,
- 15:46to turn to God in prayer.
- 15:49And I think we can do that in
- 15:50three ways.
- 15:51We can go in prayer for ourselves, in
- 15:54prayer for others, and in prayer in the
- 15:57moment.
- 15:59So prayer for ourselves.
- 16:01Like Hannah, we may at times find ourselves
- 16:04in deep anguish and distress, and like Hannah,
- 16:07that may be embedded in the particular social
- 16:10and cultural and political context of our lives.
- 16:13And so if you ever feel like you're
- 16:15in that position of being politically powerless, being
- 16:18oppressed, whether it has to do with your
- 16:20interaction with the US immigration system, or the
- 16:23US criminal justice system, or the influence of
- 16:26the wealthy who don't always care about other
- 16:28people in the United States, or in some
- 16:31other small or perhaps even less overtly political
- 16:34way, you just find yourself in distress and
- 16:37anguish, because you are on the outs, you
- 16:39are in that category of people who do
- 16:42not have the good life, who do not
- 16:45have the power, who do not get what
- 16:47they want and what they long for.
- 16:50Let your posture be to go to Shiloh,
- 16:54to go to the place of the presence
- 16:55of God, to plead your case with the
- 16:58highest authority there is, God Almighty, to pour
- 17:02out your heart in deep distress and anguish
- 17:04to Him.
- 17:05It is normal, it is healthy to have
- 17:08a deep emotional response to a situation of
- 17:11injustice that you are facing.
- 17:13It is normal to feel grief, it is
- 17:15normal to feel anger.
- 17:17Let those deep powerful feelings draw you into
- 17:21prayer, to plead your case with God.
- 17:25You can do that for yourself.
- 17:27If, like me, you often find yourself on
- 17:30the other side of questions of privilege, where
- 17:32I do not have a lot of challenges
- 17:34vis-a-vis my immigration status, because I'm
- 17:37a citizen, I don't have a lot of
- 17:38challenges vis-a-vis the criminal justice system,
- 17:40or racial injustice, or other things, we can
- 17:44still enter into the deep distress and anguish
- 17:46of other people, including our brothers and sisters
- 17:49in Christ, who face these dynamics.
- 17:53I want to just read a brief quote
- 17:54from Richard Foster.
- 17:55This is from his seminal work, Celebration of
- 17:57Discipline, speaking about different kinds of meditation, and
- 18:01he talks about meditating on current events.
- 18:04So he says, there is a form of
- 18:05meditation that is to meditate upon the events
- 18:08of our time and to seek to perceive
- 18:10their significance.
- 18:12We have a spiritual obligation to penetrate the
- 18:15inner meaning of events, not to gain power,
- 18:18but to gain prophetic perspective.
- 18:21Thomas Merton writes that the person who has
- 18:23meditated on the Passion of Christ, but has
- 18:26not meditated on the extermination camps of Dachau
- 18:29and Auschwitz, has not yet fully entered into
- 18:32the experience of Christianity in our time.
- 18:36This form of meditation is best accomplished with
- 18:39the Bible in one hand and the newspaper
- 18:41in the other.
- 18:43You must not, however, be controlled by the
- 18:45absurd political cliches and propaganda fed us today.
- 18:49Actually, newspapers are generally far too shallow and
- 18:52slanted to be of much help.
- 18:54We would do well to hold the events
- 18:56of our time before God and ask for
- 18:59prophetic insight to discern where these things lead.
- 19:04Further, we should ask for guidance for anything
- 19:06we personally should be doing to be salt
- 19:09and light in our decaying and dark world.
- 19:15So what Richard Foster is guiding us into
- 19:17here is that regardless of whether we're personally
- 19:20experiencing these events, we become aware of them
- 19:22through the news.
- 19:24And if newspapers were shallow and slanted when
- 19:26he first wrote this over a quarter century
- 19:28ago, how much more so now in the
- 19:30age of social media.
- 19:31But we come to the news with a
- 19:33posture of prayer.
- 19:34We come with meditation.
- 19:35We ask God to give us insight for
- 19:37understanding events and understanding what our response to
- 19:40them can be.
- 19:42And we resist more superficial positions or cliches
- 19:46or propaganda that would push us into one
- 19:48camp or another rather than standing in the
- 19:50presence of God to discern what our response
- 19:53can be.
- 19:56Okay, so we can pray for ourselves, we
- 19:58can pray for others, and we can pray
- 20:00in the moment.
- 20:01So that time when you're praying out to
- 20:03God in anguish, that might be something that
- 20:05you do outside of the workplace.
- 20:07That time when you're reading the news and
- 20:09trying to discern what God's prophetic insight is,
- 20:12that might be happening outside the workplace.
- 20:13But then, when you're in the workplace and
- 20:16a political conversation starts, is your first response
- 20:20to have a silent quick prayer of welcoming
- 20:24the presence of God into that moment.
- 20:26You can pray in the moment.
- 20:29And this is again kind of going back
- 20:31to one of our earlier ideas from Dallas
- 20:33Bullard, on the spot versus off the spot.
- 20:35If you're doing the work off the spot
- 20:36in prayer for yourself, for others, when you
- 20:40read the news, when you've got your Bible
- 20:41on one hand, if you're doing that off
- 20:43the spot training, then on the spot in
- 20:46the moment when a conversation happens in the
- 20:48workplace, you will be prepared to enter into
- 20:51that moment prayerfully, recognizing that no matter what
- 20:54happens in that conversation, the center of all
- 20:57things is God Almighty.
- 21:01His kingdom is unshakable.
- 21:03And you can minister from a place of
- 21:05peace into the controversy at hand.
- 21:09We'll talk about that more in the episodes
- 21:10to come.
- 21:13Lord Jesus, thank you that you judge rightly,
- 21:16that you exalt the humble and humble the
- 21:18exalted.
- 21:19Thank you that you reveal the God of
- 21:21love who is at the center of all
- 21:23things.
- 21:26Show us how to humble ourselves before you
- 21:28so that you may lift us up.
- 21:31Show us how to pray for ourselves, for
- 21:34others, and in the moment, knowing that you
- 21:40are somehow gathering our feeble prayers and our
- 21:43limited understanding into your eternal redemptive purposes.
- 21:47Jesus, do your work in us as we
- 21:49do our work with you.
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