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- 0:03Speaker 1: A stranger answered the door of a dead man's house
- 0:06Speaker 1: and explained that he had simply come to water the plants.
- 0:09Speaker 1: That detail stopped Greg's seal cold. Harvey's car was right
- 0:13Speaker 1: there in the driveway. Harley never left his car behind.
- 0:17Speaker 1: And yet the police, when Seal called them, were not
- 0:19Speaker 1: particularly interested in what he had to say. What followed
- 0:22Speaker 1: was one of the most methodical and disturbing murder investigations
- 0:26Speaker 1: Toronto's homicide unit had ever worked. A case built almost
- 0:29Speaker 1: entirely on things that were missing, and one man who
- 0:32Speaker 1: could not stop moving north There is something in this
- 0:35Speaker 1: case that has stayed with me since the first time
- 0:37Speaker 1: I went through it. A man builds an entire life, community, rituals, warmth,
- 0:42Speaker 1: and then disappears behind a single email on a Friday
- 0:44Speaker 1: the 13th. The people who knew him best could feel
- 0:47Speaker 1: the wrongness before they could name it. Harley Walker was
- 0:50Speaker 1: 72 years old when he vanished from his home in
- 0:53Speaker 1: Cabbage Town, one of Toronto's oldest and most tightly knit neighborhoods.
- 0:58Speaker 1: He had spent decades as a television director. He was
- 1:01Speaker 1: known in his community as someone who threw dinner parties
- 1:04Speaker 1: worth attending, who kept his kitchen in exact order, who
- 1:07Speaker 1: called the people he cared about on a reliable schedule.
- 1:10Speaker 1: His jazz collection was not decorative. He actually listened to it, carefully,
- 1:15Speaker 1: the way he did most things. Harley was the kind
- 1:17Speaker 1: of person whose absence would be noticed quickly, not because
- 1:21Speaker 1: he demanded attention, but because his presence was so consistent
- 1:25Speaker 1: that any break in the pattern registered immediately to the
- 1:27Speaker 1: people around him. Greg Seal had known Harley for years.
- 1:31Speaker 1: They had a standing rhythm of contact. Calls, visits, the
- 1:35Speaker 1: kind of easy maintenance that long friendships develop without being named.
- 1:39Speaker 1: When Seal last saw Harley in person, it was Thanksgiving Monday.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Nothing unusual. Nothing final feeling. By Thursday of that same week,
- 1:49Speaker 1: the calls were going unanswered. Friday too. Then came the email.
- 1:54Speaker 1: It arrived from Harley's own address on Friday the 13th.
- 1:57Speaker 1: The message was brief. He needed to leave the city.
- 2:00Speaker 1: He would be in touch. The phrasing was off. Harley
- 2:03Speaker 1: was not the kind of man who sent terse, unexplained
- 2:06Speaker 1: messages and then went quiet. Seal read it twice and
- 2:10Speaker 1: felt something subtle wrong in his chest. The following Monday,
- 2:14Speaker 1: Seal went to the house. Harley's car was parked on
- 2:17Speaker 1: the street in front of the building, exactly where it
- 2:19Speaker 1: always sat. He walked up and knocked. A man answered
- 2:23Speaker 1: the door. Not Harley. Tall, heavyset, unhurried. He said Harley
- 2:28Speaker 1: had gone away for the weekend and that he had
- 2:29Speaker 1: come to look after the plants. Seal laughed, not because
- 2:33Speaker 1: it was funny, because the alternative, the thing already forming
- 2:36Speaker 1: in the back of his mind, was not something he
- 2:39Speaker 1: could say out loud on a front porch in broad daylight.
- 2:42Speaker 1: He called the police that same day. The responding officers
- 2:46Speaker 1: were not alarmed. One of Seal's companions had been seen
- 2:49Speaker 1: by a neighbor in Harley's garden, and briefly mistaken for
- 2:52Speaker 1: Harley himself, proof enough, apparently, that things were fine. Seal
- 2:57Speaker 1: was assessed as a concerned friend, possibly overreacting, possibly something
- 3:02Speaker 1: worse in the officer's estimation. The report was logged. No
- 3:05Speaker 1: follow-up was initiated. Meanwhile, something was already moving through Harley's
- 3:10Speaker 1: financial life. An email sent from his home computer to
- 3:14Speaker 1: his investment advisor requested the immediate liquidation of his entire portfolio.
- 3:18Speaker 1: The instruction was to cut a check and make it available.
- 3:21Speaker 1: The request was specific, practical, and completely inconsistent with how
- 3:25Speaker 1: Harley managed his finances. His advisor processed it. No one
- 3:29Speaker 1: flagged it. Five days of newspapers had accumulated on Harley's
- 3:33Speaker 1: front step for a man defined by routine, by the
- 3:36Speaker 1: kind of meticulous daily attention that kept a household running smoothly,
- 3:41Speaker 1: that kept friendships alive through consistent contact. Five days of
- 3:45Speaker 1: untouched newspapers was not an oversight. It was a wall.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Something had stopped inside that house, and whatever stopped it
- 3:52Speaker 1: had been careful enough to send an e-mail, answer a door,
- 3:55Speaker 1: and tell a plausible story about plants. What no one
- 3:59Speaker 1: knew yet was that the man who answered that door
- 4:01Speaker 1: had left a thumbprint inside it. The first thing Detective
- 4:04Speaker 1: Sergeant Pauline Gray noticed when she walked into Harley Walker's
- 4:08Speaker 1: kitchen was how clean it was. Not the ordinary clean
- 4:11Speaker 1: of a tidy man. A deliberate clean. The kind of
- 4:14Speaker 1: clean that takes effort and intention and something to hide.
- 4:17Speaker 1: The countertops had been wiped in overlapping arcs. The floor
- 4:20Speaker 1: near the sink gleamed under the forensic light in a
- 4:23Speaker 1: way that no floor ever gleams after ordinary mopping. Gray
- 4:27Speaker 1: had worked enough homicide scenes to know the difference between
- 4:30Speaker 1: a clean kitchen and a cleaned kitchen. This was the
- 4:32Speaker 1: second kind. The team from forensic identification spread out through
- 4:36Speaker 1: the house while Gray stood at the threshold of that
- 4:38Speaker 1: kitchen and let the silence settle. Five days of newspapers
- 4:42Speaker 1: were stacked by the front door, exactly as Seal had
- 4:45Speaker 1: described them. The duvet was missing from the bed upstairs,
- 4:48Speaker 1: and the two Indian rugs the ones Harley had positioned
- 4:51Speaker 1: with the same care he gave everything in his life
- 4:53Speaker 1: had been pushed back toward the door frames. Both of them,
- 4:57Speaker 1: as if something heavy, had been dragged across the floor,
- 5:00Speaker 1: and someone had nudged the rugs aside to do it.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Detective Todd Carefoot applied the hemoglobin reagent to the kitchen floor.
- 5:06Speaker 1: It reacted instantly. The floor that looked clean lit up
- 5:10Speaker 1: with a pattern of cleaning strokes wide, deliberate arcs moving
- 5:14Speaker 1: from the center of the room toward the sink. And there,
- 5:16Speaker 1: in front of the drain, the reagent found something that
- 5:19Speaker 1: stopped everyone in the room. Footprints. Bare feet. Someone had
- 5:23Speaker 1: stood at that sink long enough to lead impressions in
- 5:25Speaker 1: blood that had soaked through to the grout. They had
- 5:28Speaker 1: washed their hands, or washed something else, and they had
- 5:31Speaker 1: stood there long enough that the blood had pooled under
- 5:33Speaker 1: their feet while they did it. Carefoot moved the light upward.
- 5:37Speaker 1: On the ceiling of the kitchen, there were droplets, cast off.
- 5:41Speaker 1: The kind of pattern a weapon leaves when it is
- 5:43Speaker 1: drawn back between strikes. The kind of pattern that tells
- 5:46Speaker 1: investigators not only that violence happened here, but that it
- 5:49Speaker 1: happened more than once. The rational explanation for the clean
- 5:53Speaker 1: kitchen collapsed in that moment. Someone had not merely tidied up.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Someone had spent hours in this room trying to undo
- 6:00Speaker 1: what they had done. And they had almost succeeded. Almost.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Behind the jazz collection, the shelves of carefully organized albums
- 6:08Speaker 1: that had been Harley's quiet pride. Detective Gray found a
- 6:11Speaker 1: black plastic bag tucked between two record sleeves. It was heavy.
- 6:15Speaker 1: When she opened it, the smell told her everything before
- 6:18Speaker 1: the visual did. Inside, clothing soaked through. Dark with blood
- 6:24Speaker 1: that had already begun to decompose, folded into the clothing,
- 6:27Speaker 1: almost carelessly, was a receipt. The receipt was for shrink wrap.
- 6:31Speaker 1: The purchase date was recent. That receipt was the first
- 6:35Speaker 1: time David Reed's name entered the investigation as more than
- 6:38Speaker 1: a peripheral contact. The same shrink wrap was sitting on
- 6:41Speaker 1: Harley's kitchen counter, still in its packaging. One edge had
- 6:45Speaker 1: been torn open. When forensics examined that torn edge, they
- 6:48Speaker 1: found blood, not a transfer smear, not a touch. A
- 6:52Speaker 1: saturated edge, consistent with the material having been in direct
- 6:55Speaker 1: contact with a wound site. Investigators had already flagged the
- 6:59Speaker 1: email sent from Harley's computer to his financial advisor. The
- 7:03Speaker 1: language in that email was wrong in a specific way.
- 7:06Speaker 1: It was too formal, too complete, too free of the
- 7:09Speaker 1: small grammatical quirks that characterize a person's written voice. It
- 7:12Speaker 1: requested the full liquidation of Harley's portfolio and directed the
- 7:16Speaker 1: funds to a check. Harley Walker had spent decades managing
- 7:20Speaker 1: his own financial affairs. He did not communicate with his
- 7:23Speaker 1: advisor that way. Detective Barry Ratford followed the money. The
- 7:27Speaker 1: trail moved in one direction. David Reed had received checks
- 7:30Speaker 1: from Harley Walker's account. He had also used Harley's PayPass
- 7:34Speaker 1: card to purchase fuel on multiple occasions. When investigators pulled
- 7:37Speaker 1: the records, the purchases mapped onto a timeline that Reed
- 7:41Speaker 1: could not explain away. He told them the checks were loans.
- 7:44Speaker 1: He told them Harley was helping him through a rough patch.
- 7:47Speaker 1: He said nothing about the PayPass. He said nothing about
- 7:50Speaker 1: the shrink wrap. The rational explanation stopped working here. Reed
- 7:55Speaker 1: had no criminal record, not a single traffic infraction. On paper,
- 7:59Speaker 1: he was a middle-aged financial advisor with a wife and
- 8:02Speaker 1: a child and a life that had quietly come apart
- 8:05Speaker 1: at the seams. He had met Harley Walker online. He
- 8:08Speaker 1: claimed the friendship had been coincidental, a chance encounter at
- 8:12Speaker 1: a nearby coffee shop that had grown into something more.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Investigators noted that he was approximately 6 feet 2 inches
- 8:18Speaker 1: tall and weighed over 200 pounds. Harley Walker was 72
- 8:22Speaker 1: years old. The thumbprint on the interior mail slot of
- 8:26Speaker 1: Harley's front door had still not matched anything in the
- 8:28Speaker 1: national database. It sat in the case file like an
- 8:31Speaker 1: unanswered question, patient and precise, waiting. When investigators contacted another
- 8:37Speaker 1: police service, what came back changed the texture of the
- 8:40Speaker 1: entire investigation. Reed had been involved in a previous scheme.
- 8:44Speaker 1: The details were specific and disturbing. A plan to tie
- 8:47Speaker 1: up an elderly couple, extort them, and kill them. He
- 8:51Speaker 1: had never been formally charged. The case had dissolved, but
- 8:55Speaker 1: the pattern it described, a larger man, a vulnerable older target,
- 9:00Speaker 1: financial motivation escalating control, was not new. Reed had done
- 9:04Speaker 1: this before, or something close enough to it, that the
- 9:07Speaker 1: difference barely mattered. The cell tower data told a story
- 9:11Speaker 1: that Reed could not contradict with words. On the relevant date,
- 9:14Speaker 1: his phone had moved north from Cabbage Town, tracking steadily
- 9:17Speaker 1: up the highway in the direction of Coboconk, Ontario. The
- 9:21Speaker 1: Reed family had a cabin in that area, The tower
- 9:23Speaker 1: pings placed his phone in that corridor for a window
- 9:26Speaker 1: of time consistent with a drive up, a stop, and
- 9:29Speaker 1: a drive back. When investigators pulled the odometer records from
- 9:32Speaker 1: the rental truck, the white truck Reed said he had rented,
- 9:35Speaker 1: because he was moving, the mileage matched. It matched the
- 9:39Speaker 1: distance to Coboconkin back, within a margin that left no
- 9:42Speaker 1: reasonable alternative. Reed had rented that truck during the same
- 9:46Speaker 1: window Harley Walker disappeared. Blood traces recovered from the truck's
- 9:50Speaker 1: cargo area and door handle were sent for DNA analysis.
- 9:54Speaker 1: The results confirmed what the cell data had already implied.
- 9:57Speaker 1: The blood was Harley Walker's. When investigators called Reed in
- 10:01Speaker 1: for a second interview, he did not come back. He
- 10:04Speaker 1: waited until his wife returned home, then he left. He
- 10:07Speaker 1: drove south for two minutes, made a U-turn, and headed north.
- 10:11Speaker 1: The surveillance aircraft tracking his vehicle had to break off
- 10:14Speaker 1: when it ran low on fuel. Reed drove erratically, crossing
- 10:18Speaker 1: into oncoming lanes on a rural road, as if the
- 10:21Speaker 1: act of running had made all other rules irrelevant. Eventually,
- 10:24Speaker 1: he lost control and put his car into a ditch.
- 10:27Speaker 1: The car sat in that ditch in a rural area
- 10:29Speaker 1: north of the city. Reed was gone. In the trunk,
- 10:33Speaker 1: Harley Walker's camera and Harley Walker's wallet, carrying his driver's license.
- 10:37Speaker 1: There is no version of this story where everything makes sense.
- 10:41Speaker 1: A man with no record, no apparent history of violence,
- 10:44Speaker 1: carrying the belongings of a 72-year-old who had been missing
- 10:48Speaker 1: for weeks. In a car he had just driven off
- 10:50Speaker 1: a road trying to escape the people looking for him.
- 10:53Speaker 1: The camera was Harley's. The wallet was Harley's. The blood
- 10:57Speaker 1: in the truck was Harley's. Reed was running and whatever
- 11:00Speaker 1: he was running from had been decided long before that moment.
- 11:04Speaker 1: He slept in a shed that first night. A forensic
- 11:07Speaker 1: team found his thumbprint on the door of that outbuildings.
- 11:10Speaker 1: The same thumbprint that had been sitting unmatched in the
- 11:13Speaker 1: national database since the day they processed Harley's front door.
- 11:16Speaker 1: The man who had stood in Harley's entryway, who had
- 11:19Speaker 1: controlled access to that house, and told Greg Seal that
- 11:22Speaker 1: his friend had gone away for the weekend to care
- 11:24Speaker 1: for some plants, had left the same print on a
- 11:27Speaker 1: shed door, miles away, while he tried to disappear. A
- 11:31Speaker 1: local cottager found a wallet sitting open on a table
- 11:33Speaker 1: inside an unlocked cabin. He did not know whose it was,
- 11:37Speaker 1: but something about it felt wrong enough that he drove
- 11:39Speaker 1: to the Ontario Provincial Police Detachment and reported it. The
- 11:43Speaker 1: SWAT team that descended on that cabin found Reed inside.
- 11:47Speaker 1: He did not resist. He surrendered. The aftermath settled over
- 11:50Speaker 1: everyone who had touched this case like a second kind
- 11:53Speaker 1: of cold. Not the cold of winter, but the cold
- 11:56Speaker 1: of comprehension. of understanding something fully that you wished you
- 11:59Speaker 1: did not. What investigators recovered from the moments after Reed's
- 12:03Speaker 1: surrender was not a confession in any traditional sense. It
- 12:06Speaker 1: was a negotiation. Reed's lawyer facilitated the arrangement. Reed would
- 12:12Speaker 1: draw a map. On that map, he would mark the
- 12:14Speaker 1: location where Harley Walker could be found. In exchange, the
- 12:18Speaker 1: charge would be second-degree murder rather than first. The map
- 12:22Speaker 1: had an X on it, drawn by Reed's own hand
- 12:25Speaker 1: in his own pen. in a room where he had
- 12:27Speaker 1: finally run out of road. The ex was in a
- 12:29Speaker 1: scout camp near Coboconk, Ontario, the same area the cell
- 12:33Speaker 1: towers had tracked him through, the same corridor the rental
- 12:36Speaker 1: truck's odometer had measured. When the forensic dog team arrived
- 12:40Speaker 1: at the scout camp, the dog located the site in
- 12:42Speaker 1: 13 seconds. 13 seconds. The excavation took four and a
- 12:47Speaker 1: half hours. What they found was a sealed plastic container.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Harley Walker's body was inside, wrapped in shrink wrap, bound
- 12:55Speaker 1: with packing tape, placed in a container that Reed had
- 12:57Speaker 1: prepared with a kind of deliberate attention that mirrors, in
- 13:00Speaker 1: a dark and terrible way, Harley's own meticulous nature. A
- 13:04Speaker 1: cross made of branches had been laid over the site.
- 13:07Speaker 1: The autopsy confirmed a single stab wound to the heart.
- 13:10Speaker 1: One wound, precise. The cast-off on the kitchen ceiling had
- 13:14Speaker 1: suggested multiple strikes. A weapon pulled back and swung again,
- 13:18Speaker 1: but the cause of death was one entry point, directly
- 13:22Speaker 1: to the heart. The violence in that kitchen had been
- 13:24Speaker 1: more than what killed him. It had been something else first,
- 13:27Speaker 1: something that investigators could measure in blood patterns on a
- 13:30Speaker 1: ceiling and footprints in a drain but could not fully narrate.
- 13:34Speaker 1: David Reed was convicted on the 31st of August, 2007.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Second-degree murder, life in prison, with no possibility of parole
- 13:42Speaker 1: for 17 years. Detective Sergeant Pauline Gray received a commendation
- 13:47Speaker 1: from the Ontario Homicide Investigators Association. In May of 2010,
- 13:51Speaker 1: the award acknowledged the quality of the investigation. What it
- 13:55Speaker 1: could not quantify was the specific weight of working a
- 13:58Speaker 1: case where every piece of physical evidence had to speak
- 14:01Speaker 1: for someone who could no longer speak for himself. Point,
- 14:04Speaker 1: because the person responsible had spent hours making sure there
- 14:07Speaker 1: would be nothing left to find. Greg Seal had known
- 14:10Speaker 1: something was wrong on a Thursday afternoon when the phone
- 14:13Speaker 1: rang out. He had known it more completely when he
- 14:15Speaker 1: stood on Harley's step and looked at a stranger holding
- 14:17Speaker 1: the door, and Harley's car was right there on the street,
- 14:20Speaker 1: and the stranger was smiling and saying everything was fine.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Harley Walker's jazz collection is still somewhere. The albums he
- 14:27Speaker 1: organized with such care. On shelves where someone hid the
- 14:31Speaker 1: evidence of his death between the sleeves. Somewhere in that collection,
- 14:34Speaker 1: the space where that black bag sat is now empty.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Some absences are louder than the things that once filled them.
- 14:40Speaker 1: The deal came with a condition. David Reed would plead
- 14:43Speaker 1: guilty to second-degree murder, not first. And in exchange, he
- 14:48Speaker 1: would draw a map, not describe the location. Draw it.
- 14:51Speaker 1: With a pen. On paper. like a child marking a
- 14:55Speaker 1: treasure chest with an X. He did it without hesitation.
- 14:58Speaker 1: The map pointed north to a scout camp in the
- 15:01Speaker 1: area of Coboconk, Ontario, the same corridor his cell phone
- 15:05Speaker 1: had traced weeks earlier, the same distance the rental truck's
- 15:09Speaker 1: odometer had already measured. Reed had been carrying that map
- 15:12Speaker 1: in his head the entire time, through every interview, through
- 15:15Speaker 1: the flight, through the crash, through the capture in the
- 15:18Speaker 1: borrowed cabin. He had always known exactly where Harley was.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Detective Sergeant Pauline Gray drove north with a forensic team
- 15:25Speaker 1: on a morning in 2007. A cadaver dog worked the
- 15:29Speaker 1: camp first. Thirteen seconds. That is how long it took.
- 15:33Speaker 1: The dog stopped, sat, and did not move again. Four
- 15:37Speaker 1: and a half hours of excavation followed. When they reached
- 15:39Speaker 1: the container, it was sealed in shrink wrap and packing tape.
- 15:44Speaker 1: The same kind purchased with a receipt that had been
- 15:46Speaker 1: hidden inside Harley's jazz collection. Someone had been careful. Someone
- 15:50Speaker 1: had planned this as a place things would stay buried.
- 15:53Speaker 1: A cross made of branches marked the site. There is
- 15:56Speaker 1: something in that detail that still lands hard. A cross
- 15:59Speaker 1: of branches above a sealed container in a scout camp,
- 16:02Speaker 1: north of the city, in the quiet of a forest
- 16:04Speaker 1: that had no idea what it was holding. Reed had
- 16:07Speaker 1: not left Harley in chaos. He had arranged him. That
- 16:10Speaker 1: is not the behavior of someone who panicked. The cross
- 16:13Speaker 1: suggests something else entirely. A gesture. A marker. An acknowledgement
- 16:18Speaker 1: that a person was there. What it means about Reed's
- 16:20Speaker 1: state of mind in those final moments at that site
- 16:23Speaker 1: is a question the evidence cannot answer. The autopsy answered
- 16:26Speaker 1: a simpler one, a single stab wound to the heart.
- 16:29Speaker 1: One precise injury in a kitchen that had been cleaned
- 16:32Speaker 1: so thoroughly that only microscopic blood and a pattern of
- 16:36Speaker 1: bare footprints at the drain remained as evidence it had
- 16:38Speaker 1: happened there at all. Harley Walker, 72 years old, had
- 16:42Speaker 1: died quickly. Whether that is mercy or the opposite depends
- 16:46Speaker 1: on what came before the knife. and that part of
- 16:48Speaker 1: the story Reed never gave anyone. On August 31st, 2007,
- 16:53Speaker 1: Reed was convicted of second-degree murder, life in prison, with
- 16:57Speaker 1: no possibility of parole for 17 years. His wife, who
- 17:00Speaker 1: had come home that afternoon when he sent her out
- 17:02Speaker 1: and then fled north, who had a child with him,
- 17:06Speaker 1: who had no record in this story of knowing anything,
- 17:09Speaker 1: sat somewhere outside the frame of what the court recorded
- 17:11Speaker 1: that day. The case file does not follow her. Greg Seal,
- 17:15Speaker 1: the friend who had stood on Harley's doorstep while a
- 17:18Speaker 1: stranger told him to go away, who had been dismissed
- 17:21Speaker 1: by the first officers as a jealous ex, who had
- 17:23Speaker 1: spent days trying to make someone understand that Harley Walker
- 17:26Speaker 1: did not simply leave. Seal was right about all of it.
- 17:30Speaker 1: He was right from the first phone call that went unanswered.
- 17:34Speaker 1: He was right when he looked at the car still
- 17:36Speaker 1: parked outside the house and understood, in the way that
- 17:39Speaker 1: people who love someone understand things before the evidence catches up,
- 17:43Speaker 1: that something was wrong. In May of 2010, the Ontario
- 17:47Speaker 1: Homicide Investigators Association gave Detective Sergeant Pauline Gray a commendation
- 17:52Speaker 1: for her work on the case. She had held the
- 17:54Speaker 1: investigation together from the moment the first officers stepped back
- 17:57Speaker 1: from it. She had seen what Seal saw, that the
- 18:00Speaker 1: absence was not an explanation, it was a question, and
- 18:03Speaker 1: she had followed it north, through the finances, through the
- 18:06Speaker 1: cell towers, through the crash and the capture, all the
- 18:10Speaker 1: way to a forest clearing and a cross made of
- 18:12Speaker 1: branches above a man who had collected jazz records and
- 18:15Speaker 1: cooked well and kept his routine so precisely that a
- 18:18Speaker 1: pile of uncollected newspapers was enough to tell everyone who
- 18:21Speaker 1: knew him that something had stopped. The container is not
- 18:24Speaker 1: there anymore. The camp continues. Children learn knots and fire
- 18:28Speaker 1: starting and navigation on the same ground where a cadaver
- 18:31Speaker 1: dog sat down and did not move for 13 seconds.
- 18:34Speaker 1: That cross of branches, whoever placed it there understood, on
- 18:38Speaker 1: some level, that a person deserved a marker, and chose
- 18:41Speaker 1: that place anyway. This show is made by Obomedia.