Latest / Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne / 996 - Pop and Bravo with Heather McDonald of Juicy Scoop
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- 0:15Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Set this Thursday. It's a
- 0:18Speaker 1: pop and Bravo Thursday, you guys, as promised, I'm here
- 0:22Speaker 1: with my friend Heather McDonald.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Hey, Heather, Hi girl. I'm glad we're finally doing this.
- 0:28Speaker 2: You're so patient with me. We've rescheduled a few times,
- 0:31Speaker 2: but I'm ready to get into it with you.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Listen, you're a lady about town. You're a busy business lady,
- 0:38Speaker 1: so we have to understand your busy schedule. And I
- 0:42Speaker 1: have to tell you, guys, you should have seen before
- 0:43Speaker 1: we popped on here. It's quite a team. It's quite
- 0:46Speaker 1: a team getting Heather together. It's really just her son
- 0:48Speaker 1: and her husband, but it's like, Wow, they're like making
- 0:52Speaker 1: sure her her headphones look good. And I was like,
- 0:54Speaker 1: who's going to come in here and do that for me?
- 0:56Speaker 1: That was nice?
- 0:57Speaker 2: Oh my god. I'd love for people to think that.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, the huge team that you have, Yeah yeah, yes, yeah,
- 1:04Speaker 1: it's like the Kardashians. They just come in and fluff
- 1:06Speaker 1: you out.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Luckily, you are one of those people that really know
- 1:12Speaker 1: how to do your own makeup, and it's just like
- 1:14Speaker 1: incredible to me.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I do think about like recently I saw something since
- 1:18Speaker 2: we're talking about Bravo stuff, like I don't know if
- 1:21Speaker 2: it was on the show or somebody said it, how
- 1:23Speaker 2: much Shannon Badoor spends a month. And you know, when
- 1:28Speaker 2: I first met her, she was like I met her
- 1:32Speaker 2: at the sc game and I was like looking for
- 1:36Speaker 2: tickets to the SCUCLA game and I posted something like
- 1:39Speaker 2: who can sell me tickets? And Taylor, who was you know,
- 1:42Speaker 2: very friendly with the time, said we're going with the
- 1:45Speaker 2: New Housewife and she has two tickets for you guys.
- 1:48Speaker 2: So we went and at that time, she was like
- 1:51Speaker 2: it was a secret that she had been chosen. And
- 1:54Speaker 2: they just started to film and she's like, I don't
- 1:57Speaker 2: know how to do eyelashes, And it was kind of funny, David.
- 2:00Speaker 2: It's like she had to go down the street and
- 2:02Speaker 2: get these eyelash just done. And she's like and she,
- 2:05Speaker 2: you know, had these beautiful homes, but she wasn't she
- 2:09Speaker 2: wasn't like into all that stuff at all, like you know,
- 2:12Speaker 2: And so I think though, once you get on a
- 2:16Speaker 2: show and you have the glam, it's almost like you
- 2:19Speaker 2: could almost like lose confidence that you can do your
- 2:21Speaker 2: own makeup. I don't know, but I can't imagine if
- 2:24Speaker 2: I was spending like glam to come every time I
- 2:28Speaker 2: recorded my show for YouTube or went to an event. Yeah,
- 2:32Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't be living in this house, that's for sure.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Like it is expensive. I mean, you're these people are
- 2:38Speaker 2: quality people, so you're not going to get out the
- 2:41Speaker 2: door for makeup or a blowout and stuff. Ever for
- 2:44Speaker 2: under like three p fifty or more like five hundred dollars.
- 2:47Speaker 1: It's crazier.
- 2:48Speaker 2: You do that several times a week for filming or
- 2:51Speaker 2: for just because you're going to things or you just
- 2:54Speaker 2: want to look cute. It can really add up. We know.
- 2:57Speaker 1: That reminds me of last night on the Valley On
- 3:00Speaker 1: Tuesday night, Brittany went over to do a T shirt
- 3:04Speaker 1: shoot for Christen's T shirts. It's like, where are these
- 3:06Speaker 1: t shirts? So we've been hearing about him for like
- 3:08Speaker 1: eight years and they're all cute, but like, where do
- 3:10Speaker 1: you buy them? Just online?
- 3:13Speaker 2: Yeah? I remember years ago, before I was that into
- 3:16Speaker 2: the show. I was watching it and remember when Kristen
- 3:20Speaker 2: dated James. Yes, and of course, so I wasn't that
- 3:23Speaker 2: familiar with the show, and so I tweeted some stupid
- 3:26Speaker 2: joke about how could she name her shirt whatever, it's something.
- 3:32Speaker 1: James James May m Ae.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Yeah, it's James May And I'm like really, and then
- 3:37Speaker 2: she like and she'd already bet on my show once
- 3:39Speaker 2: and stuff, and I just was like joking, and I
- 3:41Speaker 2: remember she wrote like something really kind of mean back
- 3:43Speaker 2: and then I realized, oh, it has nothing to do
- 3:46Speaker 2: whoever James May is. It has something to do with
- 3:48Speaker 2: something else. But she kind of was the first one
- 3:51Speaker 2: to do cute, cute T shirt stuff that isn't just
- 3:56Speaker 2: you know, your podcast merge, Like, yeah, it's pretty stylish.
- 4:00Speaker 2: She cute. So and I think she was the one
- 4:03Speaker 2: that actually did all the valley stuff that they're like
- 4:06Speaker 2: wearing and but no, I saw that a Valley Crew
- 4:10Speaker 2: and he looked cute. Yeah, and they did look cute. Yeah.
- 4:14Speaker 1: So so Britney goes over there and gets her makeup
- 4:17Speaker 1: done and everything. It was like, now I look good
- 4:18Speaker 1: to go see Jacks like ca Sean my Steel got it.
- 4:21Speaker 2: I don't care.
- 4:21Speaker 1: I don't think he cares if Britney's got it or not.
- 4:23Speaker 1: I don't think if if she's four hundred pounds or
- 4:26Speaker 1: ninety eight pounds, I don't think he cares. He just
- 4:28Speaker 1: doesn't want her to leave. He just wants her to stay,
- 4:32Speaker 1: even though he doesn't really actually like her. You know,
- 4:35Speaker 1: I don't think I've always felt that he never really
- 4:43Speaker 1: I think he always wanted to love her, and I think.
- 4:45Speaker 2: He always knew that she was like a quality person
- 4:48Speaker 2: and he was a shit person. And so really what
- 4:53Speaker 2: happened was, you know, even after the faith cheating thing,
- 4:57Speaker 2: it was really his dad dying, because I remember where
- 5:00Speaker 2: he like said this on my show or he said
- 5:01Speaker 2: at other places that I don't even know how together
- 5:05Speaker 2: they were when the dad died. But she really has
- 5:09Speaker 2: such a good heart, and she really like stepped up
- 5:13Speaker 2: and like did everything, you know, made sure that they
- 5:16Speaker 2: whatever all the logistics stuff that goes on with the death,
- 5:19Speaker 2: but also like being there and da da, And then
- 5:22Speaker 2: I think that he just was like I got to
- 5:24Speaker 2: marry this woman, like I don't, Yeah, I got this
- 5:26Speaker 2: woman will make me good, This woman will make me
- 5:28Speaker 2: a dad I don't want to be, you know, some
- 5:31Speaker 2: old dad like I'm getting up there and all that stuff.
- 5:34Speaker 2: And it's really interesting now because I you know, I'm
- 5:37Speaker 2: reading Sheena's book. Yeah, I just interviewed her. It'll be
- 5:41Speaker 2: out Tuesday. The book is really good. The book is
- 5:45Speaker 2: really good.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Yeah, very is so much.
- 5:49Speaker 2: I know she's done like some you know, big interviews
- 5:51Speaker 2: like US Weekly and stuff like that, but there's so
- 5:54Speaker 2: much in the book, like especially if you've watched you know,
- 5:57Speaker 2: the show. Yeah, but even if you haven't, this just
- 6:01Speaker 2: like pretty juicy and so she you know, there's just
- 6:06Speaker 2: so many times. I mean, we love Brittany, but it's
- 6:09Speaker 2: like we all know the person that went back to
- 6:13Speaker 2: the cheating whatever asshole over and over. But imagine if
- 6:18Speaker 2: you were able to watch that back and get the
- 6:22Speaker 2: whole world to say, go, it's really, honestly, really sad
- 6:28Speaker 2: that she is that she did, you know, but you
- 6:33Speaker 2: can't blame her again with Sheena's situation with Brock, with
- 6:38Speaker 2: all these people, with Tom and with Tom and Ariana,
- 6:42Speaker 2: they are a brand. It is a show. It isn't
- 6:45Speaker 2: just well, this will be awkward when we sell the house,
- 6:48Speaker 2: or well, my god, you know he's a captain of
- 6:52Speaker 2: the Little League. What's the church going to say? This
- 6:54Speaker 2: is like, what's the whole world going to say? And
- 6:56Speaker 2: this is our job and these are our friends and
- 7:00Speaker 2: these are so it's like, I see how You're like, well,
- 7:06Speaker 2: I mean, you know, what was she going to do?
- 7:08Speaker 2: Go back to Kentucky? No, she has a huge established
- 7:12Speaker 2: life here. Yeah, but it is refreshing to see her.
- 7:16Speaker 2: You know, move on, she will get someone better, she
- 7:21Speaker 2: will get someone great or not, you know, not maybe
- 7:24Speaker 2: she never wants anyone again. That might be fine too.
- 7:27Speaker 2: At least you'd come home to a peaceful house, like
- 7:29Speaker 2: who cares if she never has a serious man in
- 7:32Speaker 2: her life ever? Again?
- 7:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's interesting speaking of like all the
- 7:36Speaker 1: different couples. Now they are a brand and they're part
- 7:38Speaker 1: of the show. Two things. Number one, My son came
- 7:42Speaker 1: in my room the other day. He had been watching
- 7:44Speaker 1: Love Island with his girlfriend. This is this thing they're watching,
- 7:46Speaker 1: and he says, you know about this Ariana. I go, yeah,
- 7:50Speaker 1: I do, yes, Yes, that's it. And he says she's
- 7:54Speaker 1: just smoking hot and I said, yeah, she's incredible, right,
- 7:57Speaker 1: and he goes, who whatever, like cheat on a girl
- 7:59Speaker 1: like that?
- 8:00Speaker 2: D D D DA.
- 8:00Speaker 1: I said, oh, John, it's so many years of reality
- 8:04Speaker 1: TV that you have to watch to know like the
- 8:06Speaker 1: whole story. And you know, yes he did cheat on
- 8:09Speaker 1: her with her friend, and that was all terrible. I said,
- 8:11Speaker 1: but there's so much more to that story, and obviously
- 8:13Speaker 1: she's thriving and doing great, and he's just like, well,
- 8:17Speaker 1: I just I just don't even understand, like you gotta,
- 8:19Speaker 1: but my son, as nineteen, is just baffled that anybody
- 8:23Speaker 1: show on this gorgeous woman, you know, right well, we know.
- 8:27Speaker 2: From whether it's Haale Berry or Arianna or Sena or Brittany,
- 8:32Speaker 2: it's not about the girl. It's never been about the girl.
- 8:38Speaker 2: You know, in some cases maybe if if if a
- 8:41Speaker 2: couple is in a marriage and and we're going on
- 8:44Speaker 2: a decade of no sex, you know, maybe that guy
- 8:46Speaker 2: will like find comfort or yeah, it's all about the
- 8:49Speaker 2: guys or girls, you know, ego and attention and like
- 8:54Speaker 2: just what that feels like. And it's really not about
- 8:58Speaker 2: the other person, you know. It's a slike, yeah, obviously
- 9:02Speaker 2: we see the news that Jacks is leaving.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Yeah, that was going to be next on my list.
- 9:08Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, it's okay, it's all right. I just
- 9:10Speaker 1: wanted to ask you really following that she had read, Yeah,
- 9:13Speaker 1: I did see something Sheena put out which was such
- 9:15Speaker 1: a great point, which is like, okay, everybody's coming after
- 9:18Speaker 1: me because I put this in my book about Brock.
- 9:19Speaker 1: So there's three things, Right, I'm damned if I do,
- 9:21Speaker 1: and I'm damned if I don't. If I talked about
- 9:23Speaker 1: it during you know, the season eleven when they're wrapping
- 9:27Speaker 1: up the whole series, then I'm an asshole because I'm
- 9:29Speaker 1: trying to take away from Arianna storyline, right. And then
- 9:32Speaker 1: if I don't talk about it, I'm an asshole because
- 9:34Speaker 1: I put all my life on TV and now I'm
- 9:35Speaker 1: not talking about it. So she's like, I'm damned if
- 9:37Speaker 1: I do, and I'm damned if I don't. And then
- 9:39Speaker 1: then I put it in my book and everybody criticizes that.
- 9:42Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, good for her for putting it
- 9:43Speaker 1: in her book, and so.
- 9:44Speaker 2: I liked that's what I told her that. Well, when
- 9:47Speaker 2: you read the book, she is a people pleaser and
- 9:51Speaker 2: she a time and time again they kind of fucked
- 9:54Speaker 2: her from like Lisa Vanner Pump to the producers to
- 9:58Speaker 2: you know, they used her when they needed her. We
- 10:01Speaker 2: know how disposable these reality stars are. And then they
- 10:05Speaker 2: get and put up put in a position where they
- 10:08Speaker 2: get again disrespected, not feeling appreciated by the producers, and
- 10:13Speaker 2: they go fuck it. I'm gonna leave. But then they
- 10:16Speaker 2: sit down and they're like, well, am I really going
- 10:19Speaker 2: to give up one hundred thousand dollars? I don't know
- 10:22Speaker 2: if in two years I'll ever be to make one
- 10:25Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars in a matter of six months. And so, yeah,
- 10:29Speaker 2: you don't blame them for going. Okay, I'm gonna stick around. Okay,
- 10:31Speaker 2: I'll put the wedding on you know, TV, even though
- 10:34Speaker 2: movie I really don't want to, but okay, I'll make
- 10:37Speaker 2: lemonade out of it. And yeah, so I think I
- 10:41Speaker 2: think with that with what she was saying is I
- 10:44Speaker 2: said to her when I found out about it, and
- 10:48Speaker 2: I kind of heard just like within the last couple months,
- 10:53Speaker 2: and I kept it a secret, you know, but I
- 10:56Speaker 2: was like, good for her, Good for her, her for
- 11:00Speaker 2: saving something for herself. And I said that to her,
- 11:03Speaker 2: I go, whether it was going to be an explosive
- 11:06Speaker 2: podcast episode of yourself or a paid dateline whatever, or
- 11:13Speaker 2: a document or whatever for her books, dateline, thank you
- 11:16Speaker 2: for not putting it on a platter and giving it
- 11:19Speaker 2: to them again, like, good fucking for you. Like, and
- 11:24Speaker 2: also there was too much at stake, you know, this
- 11:27Speaker 2: isn't one of the things she said is that you
- 11:29Speaker 2: know what I was Joseph Ariana is that she could
- 11:33Speaker 2: walk away from this relationship and she's hearing about it
- 11:37Speaker 2: right as they were still dissecting it and talking about
- 11:41Speaker 2: it about her husband's indiscretion when she was pregnant, you know,
- 11:45Speaker 2: affair and yeah, we all know when we have marital issues,
- 11:51Speaker 2: if you've got a house, but especially if you've got kids,
- 11:56Speaker 2: you know, and it was a big deal too for
- 11:58Speaker 2: Ariana to walk away too at that time, but especially
- 12:01Speaker 2: if you have kids and the person is a great dad,
- 12:05Speaker 2: you know, and all of that, and like, can I
- 12:07Speaker 2: look past this? Could I can I make this work again?
- 12:10Speaker 2: You know? Like so I think, you know, I think
- 12:14Speaker 2: it's just very I think she's strong and for and
- 12:18Speaker 2: I said, I go, do you know that people are
- 12:19Speaker 2: saying that you made it up to sell books? And
- 12:22Speaker 2: luckily she has not. She's been pretty busy, she's not
- 12:25Speaker 2: been in the comments Seculy, she's not been on all
- 12:27Speaker 2: the TikTok things. But I mean, one hundred percent, it
- 12:31Speaker 2: was not made up to sell books or who.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Would make that up and who would agree to have
- 12:35Speaker 1: that made up about them? Like right, exactly, Like oh, yeah.
- 12:38Speaker 1: It just make me look like a worst piece of
- 12:40Speaker 1: shit that people think I am. I mean, you know.
- 12:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:43Speaker 1: So speaking of the Valley people, let's do talk about
- 12:46Speaker 1: Jack's because Jack's announced today guys, it's Wednesday when we're
- 12:49Speaker 1: recording this, that he announced that he would like everybody
- 12:53Speaker 1: to know that he has decided that he's not coming
- 12:55Speaker 1: back to the Valley. Like many housewives before him make
- 12:59Speaker 1: an announcement that they're not coming back to a show
- 13:01Speaker 1: because it's their decision. My personal opinion is just all
- 13:07Speaker 1: the years watching and studying all these people that probably
- 13:09Speaker 1: it wasn't his decision, but they let him say it
- 13:12Speaker 1: was his decision. Do you have thoughts?
- 13:14Speaker 2: I would never want to fire Jacks. I like, I
- 13:19Speaker 2: know people are like doing a gig jig or dancing
- 13:22Speaker 2: about it and they're like, good, I'm glad he's to me.
- 13:25Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. I have fallen asleep watching The
- 13:30Speaker 2: Valley every the last four episodes, and this last one
- 13:35Speaker 2: included I fell asleep. I woke up and it was
- 13:38Speaker 2: Janet and Jason talk. I don't even I saw the
- 13:40Speaker 2: photo shoot and then I will turn off the TV
- 13:43Speaker 2: and I went to bed like I mean, whether he's
- 13:48Speaker 2: sober or whatever, he's good TV, and I would have
- 13:52Speaker 2: rather had him stay and date somebody new how that
- 13:58Speaker 2: be a drama as you know reality is to her
- 14:02Speaker 2: or not. If JAXX was just a guy who ran
- 14:04Speaker 2: a bar that looked like that living in Studio City,
- 14:07Speaker 2: he would get a girlfriend, no fucking problem, and she
- 14:10Speaker 2: could probably be a high quality woman that just finds
- 14:13Speaker 2: him fuck hot and sexy. She probably would be a
- 14:17Speaker 2: good step mom to Cruise. She might hit it off
- 14:20Speaker 2: with Britney. Like I would rather see that and have
- 14:25Speaker 2: him stick around get an income that he has to
- 14:29Speaker 2: pay trial support on right, because I'm like if he doesn't,
- 14:32Speaker 2: if he's not on the show, I don't know how
- 14:35Speaker 2: what he's getting from the Jack's restaurant. But like it
- 14:39Speaker 2: does go away when people are like not in your face,
- 14:41Speaker 2: you do forget about them. I mean, is anyone talking
- 14:43Speaker 2: about New Jersey stuff? No, It's like they do become
- 14:47Speaker 2: irrelevant to an extent. Doesn't mean they can never work,
- 14:51Speaker 2: but you know, like yeah, you don't really you will
- 14:54Speaker 2: lose interest. I still think the show could be good.
- 14:57Speaker 2: I think they got to bring back she Lalla and
- 15:00Speaker 2: like Tom Schwartz they got to bring back some people
- 15:02Speaker 2: that are in the fold and spice it up a little.
- 15:06Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, I it and I know
- 15:10Speaker 2: he was awful to Brittany and all that stuff, but
- 15:13Speaker 2: it's like there is part of me that has some
- 15:16Speaker 2: sympathy because just like Shena who started the fucking show
- 15:19Speaker 2: and then in one season they called her and demoted her,
- 15:22Speaker 2: which is in the book, which is a shocking scene
- 15:24Speaker 2: the way they did it. And same thing with him,
- 15:29Speaker 2: like he was there from the beginning. It is his
- 15:33Speaker 2: when he says to you know, Lisa Barron, pump my show. Okay,
- 15:36Speaker 2: it's not your show, but come on. And he was
- 15:40Speaker 2: pushing for the Valley. He brought that cast together for years. Yeah,
- 15:44Speaker 2: So like I could see why he was weird, you know,
- 15:48Speaker 2: knowing that they're filming without him and all. I think
- 15:50Speaker 2: the surveillance in the house was more about the show
- 15:55Speaker 2: and what they're saying about him than him being so
- 15:58Speaker 2: obsessed with Brittany that he needed to know if she
- 16:01Speaker 2: was seeing a guy or what she looked like in
- 16:04Speaker 2: the morning. I don't think he was obsessed with her
- 16:08Speaker 2: like that. Sadly, I don't, like I think it's less
- 16:11Speaker 2: flattering than that. I really do think he was not
- 16:14Speaker 2: into her. I think they he certainly didn't want to
- 16:18Speaker 2: have another kid with her. I think she just wanted
- 16:21Speaker 2: to have another kid, because that's what her progression was.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Thank god they didn't have another kid. You know, with
- 16:28Speaker 2: everything we know about you know, Cruise, just you know Journey,
- 16:32Speaker 2: which he I'm sure she's doing everything and in the
- 16:35Speaker 2: day and age that really helps when you start young,
- 16:37Speaker 2: but still that's a lot. It's a lot on the
- 16:39Speaker 2: second kid too, to have a sibling that's special needs.
- 16:43Speaker 2: And so it's like, yeah, I always felt like I
- 16:46Speaker 2: always I always felt like he just wasn't that into her.
- 16:52Speaker 1: I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I
- 16:55Speaker 1: do think he's good TV, and I did. But what's
- 16:58Speaker 1: interesting you're saying about like we don't remember about Jersey
- 17:01Speaker 1: because it's just like we have, you know, germal brains.
- 17:03Speaker 1: It's just like short term memory was a hamster brain
- 17:06Speaker 1: and goldfish and I don't Yeah, you're right about the
- 17:10Speaker 1: Jersey thing. But when Jackson was off the show, and
- 17:12Speaker 1: he was off for three or four episodes, he was
- 17:15Speaker 1: gone when he was in rehab, which is hilarious. I
- 17:17Speaker 1: don't know what kind of rehabit was, but he loved it.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Was a lot of you get to go home and
- 17:22Speaker 1: check your mail. But I didn't miss him when he
- 17:26Speaker 1: was gone. Now when he came back and had that
- 17:28Speaker 1: scene with Zach in the kitchen was just chef's kiss. Now,
- 17:33Speaker 1: everybody's been fired on Bravo that's ever said is my show.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Vicky got fired for Jack's got fired for it, and
- 17:38Speaker 1: then he did it again for that.
- 17:41Speaker 2: And also, if you confront Andy on a reunion like
- 17:43Speaker 2: Carol radswell, oh you're afraid about any too? My favorite
- 17:47Speaker 2: line that has ever been said in the history of
- 17:51Speaker 2: Bravo when she said, really, Andy, are you afraid of her? Two?
- 17:55Speaker 2: And he's like, and that just pissed him off. That
- 17:59Speaker 2: was the end. That just fucking pissed him off.
- 18:02Speaker 1: And she's got lots of money. But Jack's your point
- 18:06Speaker 1: is valid in that he needs an income. And I
- 18:09Speaker 1: think that you know, he started a podcast with the podcast,
- 18:11Speaker 1: started a podcast, do or didn't do that? All these
- 18:13Speaker 1: things that he wants to do. Because he is seen
- 18:16Speaker 1: as such a bad guy, it's not fun like to
- 18:21Speaker 1: see like seeing Tom sanderbal paint his body and Gyrate
- 18:24Speaker 1: on his stage just kind of fun because it's funny.
- 18:27Speaker 1: But nobody wants to see Jack sit in a chair
- 18:29Speaker 1: and give man advice man advice.
- 18:32Speaker 2: I mean that's the other thing. Like I always I
- 18:34Speaker 2: remember when I was selling my books and stuff, they
- 18:37Speaker 2: were like, yeah, these these other guys like that are
- 18:40Speaker 2: comedians and stuff, want to do the funny books like
- 18:44Speaker 2: the girls were doing. You know that we all kind
- 18:46Speaker 2: of followed in Chelsea's footsteps. A lot of us had
- 18:48Speaker 2: books of funny stories and they were like a hot
- 18:51Speaker 2: item to sell in the book world. And this publisher said,
- 18:55Speaker 2: men don't read those books. They don't read parenting books.
- 18:59Speaker 2: That don't they the books they read are either financial advice,
- 19:05Speaker 2: sports or like a Tom Clancy. Yeah. Like if they're
- 19:10Speaker 2: going to read like a non fiction or a fiction. Sorry,
- 19:13Speaker 2: if they're going to read a fiction, it's like something
- 19:15Speaker 2: like that, they don't care about funny dad stories reading it.
- 19:19Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This is what his opinion was. And and
- 19:22Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some like hit books that someone's gonna
- 19:24Speaker 2: go whatever. I'm saying, like, is your husband running out
- 19:29Speaker 2: to buy the Jim Gaffigan book? No, No, but I'm
- 19:35Speaker 2: yeah for Father's Day. You'll probably buy it for him.
- 19:38Speaker 2: I mean, but it's like and I kind of feel
- 19:40Speaker 2: the same with like podcasts.
- 19:44Speaker 1: You know.
- 19:45Speaker 2: I think they like Joe Rogan because he talks about
- 19:49Speaker 2: Ameriot of stuff and has interesting people whatever, but all
- 19:53Speaker 2: these like tattooed overly tan life coach Ben telling men
- 20:00Speaker 2: and like, hey man, I used to fuck everything in Vegas,
- 20:04Speaker 2: but now let me tell you, like it was because
- 20:07Speaker 2: I really had a small heart or what. I don't know,
- 20:10Speaker 2: like who, like remember like the whole thing that Louis
- 20:13Speaker 2: went too. I mean, yeah, that guy. I started following
- 20:16Speaker 2: that guy. He's terrifying, the guy that runs that and
- 20:21Speaker 2: his wife, and I would like, I was kind of like,
- 20:24Speaker 2: so I started following them and I'd see their clips
- 20:26Speaker 2: and they tried to get on Real Housewives of Borne
- 20:29Speaker 2: of C two and she's like very attractive, and their
- 20:31Speaker 2: story is weird, like he was they were Mormon, then
- 20:35Speaker 2: he's stopped being Mormon, then he got all into tattoos
- 20:38Speaker 2: and now he's like a life coach and they have
- 20:40Speaker 2: all this money. I don't know where they get the money,
- 20:43Speaker 2: because it's like the podcast is not I don't know
- 20:45Speaker 2: who else to watched the podcast besides me, and they
- 20:48Speaker 2: tried to do like a video to get their own
- 20:50Speaker 2: reality show and everything. And I'm watching this clip and
- 20:53Speaker 2: he's the clips are so uncomfortable because he's like railroading
- 20:58Speaker 2: his wife, like not letting your talk. And then she's
- 21:01Speaker 2: like I know, and he goes and you know what
- 21:03Speaker 2: you did? And she's like yeah, and she's so pretty,
- 21:06Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, like do whenever I Like,
- 21:10Speaker 2: I just watched this other thing of this like this couple.
- 21:13Speaker 2: They're black and he's like a pastor and the pastor's
- 21:17Speaker 2: wife and it went viral because they're doing a podcast
- 21:20Speaker 2: and it's all about how he was never attracted to
- 21:22Speaker 2: her and she wasn't his type and that she and
- 21:26Speaker 2: they're laughing about it and how she said, I knew
- 21:29Speaker 2: I was. You know, I knew I was. I knew
- 21:33Speaker 2: he had bench warmers, but I was the first to
- 21:35Speaker 2: pitch or something like I knew he had a horse
- 21:38Speaker 2: full of stables, but I was the one he was
- 21:40Speaker 2: riding on Tuesdays and starts. I think it was just
- 21:42Speaker 2: so disturbing and like and she's like, I used to,
- 21:45Speaker 2: you know, get his outfits together for him to go
- 21:48Speaker 2: see his side check and everything, and this woman goes
- 21:51Speaker 2: they do a switch, you know, like a stitch, and
- 21:54Speaker 2: this one was like, yeah, these are my pastors. They
- 21:57Speaker 2: literally have people going to their church. I was too
- 22:02Speaker 2: before they did this episode giving money hearing that, Like,
- 22:07Speaker 2: I just I just don't understand how so many people
- 22:10Speaker 2: are like paying for like these coaches and this advice
- 22:16Speaker 2: from fucking they're all grifters. From that blue eyed guy.
- 22:20Speaker 2: What's his name, the hot one that I talked about.
- 22:22Speaker 2: What I think of his name? Oh, Jay Shatty's full
- 22:27Speaker 2: of shit. Yeah, but you know, like all of it.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Mel Robbins, Okay, if that's what does it for you, fine,
- 22:34Speaker 2: But like really, I.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Have to tell you that it's funny you said, Mel Robins,
- 22:39Speaker 1: because you've talked a lot about let them on your
- 22:41Speaker 1: show and the whole you know, the scandal involved with
- 22:44Speaker 1: it and everything.
- 22:44Speaker 2: And she took it from the poet, took it from
- 22:46Speaker 2: the poet.
- 22:47Speaker 1: And I have to tell you that my mom and
- 22:49Speaker 1: my sisters came to the beach a month or so
- 22:53Speaker 1: ago and my mom said something about the let them
- 22:55Speaker 1: and I was like, let me tell you what. Let
- 22:57Speaker 1: me tell you about that, and my sisters, and I
- 22:59Speaker 1: kind of told her like, yes, it sounds like a
- 23:01Speaker 1: great idea, but you know it was stolen, and you know,
- 23:05Speaker 1: we gave her the whole rundown on it, and I
- 23:06Speaker 1: was like yeah. I was like, it was this whole
- 23:08Speaker 1: movement of you know, I said, you know, people were
- 23:10Speaker 1: getting like the tattoos and stuff was all from this poem.
- 23:12Speaker 1: I'm I was like, well, I don't like that. I
- 23:14Speaker 1: was like, well, listen, that's not the point. I said, uh,
- 23:17Speaker 1: you know, my mom's like, but you also can't just
- 23:20Speaker 1: do that. Sometimes you can't just say let them, because
- 23:23Speaker 1: what You're just gonna leave somebody sitting at lunch because
- 23:25Speaker 1: you just didn't feel like going.
- 23:26Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't think my idea is
- 23:30Speaker 2: so lame. And according to like the poet, that's not
- 23:32Speaker 2: that really wasn't the intention of like if your friends
- 23:36Speaker 2: don't ask you to brunch.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Want them, Yeah, of course you're gonna let them.
- 23:40Speaker 2: Are you going to go show up at the brunch
- 23:42Speaker 2: uninvited at fifty and like stream at them like yeah,
- 23:46Speaker 2: we got it, you know. And that's why there were
- 23:47Speaker 2: like funny things about like you know, you know, if
- 23:51Speaker 2: the if the irs comes after you let them, had
- 23:54Speaker 2: like all these funny things. But you know, she's a
- 23:57Speaker 2: smart person. She knew right away to trade market, she
- 24:01Speaker 2: knew right away to write the book. She purposely never
- 24:05Speaker 2: mentioned that she'd heard of it. She got the merch
- 24:08Speaker 2: she made it that no one could even make an
- 24:10Speaker 2: Etsy shirt out of it, Like I get it. She
- 24:13Speaker 2: trademarked at all, you know, So it's like, no, she
- 24:16Speaker 2: was an attorney who was an alcoholic, who was bankrupt,
- 24:20Speaker 2: who was like I got to do something. I'm just
- 24:23Speaker 2: going to get into public speaking, which is like all
- 24:26Speaker 2: that makes me think sometimes like I don't know, it
- 24:30Speaker 2: like turns me against like any that and seeing too
- 24:32Speaker 2: many religious like cult documentaries, it kind of makes it
- 24:35Speaker 2: hard to like ever like really listen to someone, like really,
- 24:40Speaker 2: like who are you? Who's like up there? That's my age.
- 24:43Speaker 2: Like when I was younger going to church, I was like,
- 24:45Speaker 2: oh my god, it's a priest and you know he
- 24:47Speaker 2: went to school for But now I'm like like I don't.
- 24:51Speaker 2: I mean I still, but I don't. I don't know.
- 24:54Speaker 2: It's it's it's hard. It's hard to like believe when
- 24:57Speaker 2: so many people can just immediately be like an expert
- 25:00Speaker 2: and give advice and all that kind of stuff, and
- 25:02Speaker 2: you're like.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Like, why are they an expert? And why am I not? Yeah,
- 25:07Speaker 1: because I've had a lot of lived experience. I could
- 25:09Speaker 1: be an expert too, you know.
- 25:10Speaker 2: But you are. I mean you do it on your podcast,
- 25:12Speaker 2: but you're not telling people to, you know, pay you
- 25:17Speaker 2: for something special or a masterclass or whatever. That's why,
- 25:21Speaker 2: Like when I started the podcast and even Patreon, I
- 25:24Speaker 2: was like, my Patreo is just going to be a product,
- 25:26Speaker 2: and it's going to be a digital product, and it's
- 25:28Speaker 2: gonna be an extra episode, like it's not going to
- 25:31Speaker 2: be anything other than that. Because I'm just like that
- 25:35Speaker 2: just seems like weird. But then I'm like, well, you
- 25:38Speaker 2: got to make the money where you make it. Like
- 25:39Speaker 2: I just thought Teresa and Whitney Rose like rolling around
- 25:44Speaker 2: in some show and in Australia. Oh, and I'm like
- 25:50Speaker 2: what is that? Yeah, but you know what, they're not filming.
- 25:53Speaker 2: They get the call. It's fun for them to do.
- 25:57Speaker 2: They make a paycheck. They just have to show up.
- 26:00Speaker 2: They're not producing the show, they're not coming over the content.
- 26:03Speaker 2: And if these people in Melbourne all want to pay
- 26:06Speaker 2: to go see them, let them let them. They got
- 26:11Speaker 2: a free track, let them, let them do it. Like,
- 26:14Speaker 2: you know, because I saw this one girl, you know
- 26:17Speaker 2: who does a lot of content anti Teresa, and she's like,
- 26:21Speaker 2: I mean, how embarrassing, Like she's fifty years old whatever.
- 26:24Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you could say that about any woman
- 26:27Speaker 2: of a certain age. That's like dancing, singing, being on
- 26:31Speaker 2: a real housewife show, singing karaoke. Like, we're all going
- 26:35Speaker 2: to be embarrassing to our kids at some point no
- 26:37Speaker 2: matter what we do, whether we're on OnlyFans or we're
- 26:39Speaker 2: like do it and it's like something that we have
- 26:42Speaker 2: kids like, So, yeah, you know, she's got she's got
- 26:46Speaker 2: to make her money, and if she wants to do it,
- 26:47Speaker 2: let her do it.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Yeah, why is the why is why is that the
- 26:50Speaker 1: slam that she's got.
- 26:51Speaker 2: I always say it when it's like and also like
- 26:53Speaker 2: I hate it when it's like, please, you're fifty, You're
- 26:57Speaker 2: It's like Vin said about a one who's thirty that's
- 27:00Speaker 2: also doing wearing the same outfit and rolling around on
- 27:03Speaker 2: the ground, Like why does it matter like.
- 27:05Speaker 1: That the age has anything to do with it. Yeah,
- 27:07Speaker 1: maybe because I am that age. But I got to
- 27:10Speaker 1: tell you something too, So, okay, I heard your episode
- 27:13Speaker 1: this week with Matt Murphy, which was so weird because
- 27:16Speaker 1: because I've been laying around since I've been sick, I
- 27:19Speaker 1: had a lot of like old datelines in twenty twenty
- 27:21Speaker 1: eight on stuff to kill the time, and I kept
- 27:23Speaker 1: seeing Matt Murphy. I was like, wow, I mean, like
- 27:25Speaker 1: from ten twenty years ago on these shows, you know,
- 27:27Speaker 1: it's as experts and stuff. And then he was on
- 27:30Speaker 1: your show this week, and let me tell you something.
- 27:33Speaker 1: He's got some controversial opinions about like Karen Reid and stuff.
- 27:37Speaker 1: And that's I actually like when he's on because he's
- 27:40Speaker 1: not going to just agree with you and he's gonna
- 27:44Speaker 1: say nope, from my opinions, this, that and the other.
- 27:47Speaker 1: And that kind of started making me think about Karen Reid.
- 27:50Speaker 1: And you're saying you think when they do, because there
- 27:52Speaker 1: will be multiple movies and projects there, there will be.
- 27:56Speaker 1: So you were saying you think dread Matteo would be great.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think she would be good.
- 28:01Speaker 1: But I also think Michelle Monahan who played the actress
- 28:06Speaker 1: friend on White Lotus of that girl group, she.
- 28:09Speaker 2: Was the actress. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's great. I
- 28:12Speaker 2: really believe there's going to be kept several I think,
- 28:16Speaker 2: just like you know, Long Island Lolita, and you know,
- 28:20Speaker 2: Drew played Drew Barrymore played her, and I remember there
- 28:24Speaker 2: were three actresses that each and they each ABC did once, NBC,
- 28:29Speaker 2: and CBS all did TV movies about the Long Island Lolita,
- 28:33Speaker 2: which was this young girl who was having an affair
- 28:36Speaker 2: with this guy who was fixing her car, and she
- 28:38Speaker 2: went and shot his wife in the head, and Amy
- 28:41Speaker 2: Fisher was the name of the girl, and it was
- 28:44Speaker 2: just you know, and they One was from the perspective
- 28:47Speaker 2: of Joey and Mary joe Butafuco where they were completely
- 28:53Speaker 2: where he was completely innocent and she was obsessed. One
- 28:57Speaker 2: was from her point of view, Amy Fisher's point of
- 28:59Speaker 2: view where she was being groomed and he told her
- 29:01Speaker 2: to shoot his wife. And the third one was just
- 29:04Speaker 2: like from a journalist's point of view, and it was like, yeah,
- 29:07Speaker 2: so they'll be a ton. But I will say about
- 29:10Speaker 2: that episode because it's funny because I was reading the
- 29:13Speaker 2: comments on YouTube and when I cover crimes and stuff
- 29:18Speaker 2: like that once in a while and people just go,
- 29:21Speaker 2: you know, get your facts straight and get your data,
- 29:24Speaker 2: and I'm like, First of all, we covered like seven
- 29:27Speaker 2: big news type of things totally, and he is not
- 29:33Speaker 2: he was not the prosecute on all of them. I'm
- 29:35Speaker 2: not an attorney. We will mess up names and facts.
- 29:39Speaker 2: And you might know more about Karen Read because you
- 29:42Speaker 2: sat home for four years and watched everything on it,
- 29:44Speaker 2: which is great, and you can comment and say that
- 29:48Speaker 2: we're wrong. But the other part of me is like, well,
- 29:51Speaker 2: I'd rather have four hundred comments yelling at us than none,
- 29:55Speaker 2: so you know, be mad in it. But if it's
- 29:58Speaker 2: like juicy Scoop, juicy Crimes, whatever I put out is
- 30:02Speaker 2: not the show to go to if you're looking for
- 30:05Speaker 2: you know, no mistakes and completely factual, Like it's just
- 30:08Speaker 2: two people talking about a crime and what we think
- 30:10Speaker 2: may have happened, you know, like get and it's great
- 30:13Speaker 2: to have a Matt Murphy who actually is prosecuting case,
- 30:16Speaker 2: but none of those cases we talked about on Tuesday
- 30:19Speaker 2: show he had an active role in, so he had
- 30:23Speaker 2: like he had.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Some strong feelings. He has some strong feelings about you
- 30:26Speaker 1: having Sherry Pepinie on your show, and I thought, but
- 30:29Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting because he agreed, You're like, look,
- 30:32Speaker 1: she's here in front of me talking to me, and
- 30:35Speaker 1: I'm not saying I believe every word she said. But
- 30:37Speaker 1: it's different when you're sitting in front of somebody in there,
- 30:39Speaker 1: a guest, and you know because he was he agreed
- 30:42Speaker 1: with you on that, because I mean he was like, oh,
- 30:44Speaker 1: next time, give me a list of questions for her,
- 30:46Speaker 1: and I'm sure Heatherre's gonna be let me get out
- 30:49Speaker 1: of my questions. And I mean, grilling you completely make
- 30:52Speaker 1: you uncomfortable.
- 30:53Speaker 2: I mean, now, I honestly just I just don't care,
- 30:56Speaker 2: Like I feel like nobody even cares. I mean even
- 30:58Speaker 2: that episode honestlywe in us like didn't do that great
- 31:01Speaker 2: as far as like the clips we cut. Yeah, I
- 31:04Speaker 2: just don't think people care that much about it. Like
- 31:06Speaker 2: I was obsessed with it, which is why when the
- 31:08Speaker 2: opportunity came to interview her, I was like, I don't
- 31:10Speaker 2: care that they she did two others prior to mine,
- 31:13Speaker 2: like I just want to talk to her about it.
- 31:15Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like her story has changed with other
- 31:19Speaker 2: people's podcasts or things that she said in theirs that
- 31:22Speaker 2: she did say mine, and then yeah, after mine, she
- 31:24Speaker 2: did another one, and I'm just like, yeah, I don't
- 31:29Speaker 2: I don't think any of us will totally know the
- 31:31Speaker 2: real truth. But I don't think she told the real
- 31:33Speaker 2: truth yet, and I don't want to hear the next
- 31:36Speaker 2: version of it either. It's like you just don't care
- 31:38Speaker 2: after a while. I agree, But I do think she
- 31:40Speaker 2: should be able to be with her kids. I do.
- 31:42Speaker 2: I don't think a liar shouldn't be able to see
- 31:44Speaker 2: her kids, and I think kids need to see their mom.
- 31:48Speaker 2: So I will say that even if she did this,
- 31:50Speaker 2: and even if she lied, I think maybe she'd they
- 31:54Speaker 2: maybe they don't live with her, but she should be
- 31:55Speaker 2: able to like see them, and they should know that
- 31:57Speaker 2: their mom cares about them. I don't think that benefit
- 32:00Speaker 2: it's children, but I agree.
- 32:02Speaker 1: I think that that, yeah, there's something there that could
- 32:05Speaker 1: be worked out for sure. But I will say, if
- 32:07Speaker 1: you guys want to hear the uh like the background
- 32:10Speaker 1: scoop about that interview you put it on your Patreon
- 32:12Speaker 1: it was pre che sy preachey. So okay, the Blake
- 32:17Speaker 1: Lively situation. I can't follow it. I'm done trying.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Oh my god. I okay, let's talk a little bit
- 32:23Speaker 2: about that. Okay. So when that started, I you know,
- 32:26Speaker 2: I was into it. And I will say at first
- 32:29Speaker 2: I totally believed Blake, yeah, because I was like, yeah,
- 32:33Speaker 2: I do think it was weird that all of a sudden,
- 32:35Speaker 2: after the movie was over with and it was like,
- 32:40Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I was seeing all these interviews
- 32:42Speaker 2: and things like that. And recently I saw the same
- 32:46Speaker 2: thing where it was people saying that she was awful.
- 32:49Speaker 2: She was awful here, she was awful at this restaurant,
- 32:51Speaker 2: she was doing this, she was doing that. Let's show
- 32:53Speaker 2: an old clip when she and Parker Posy was rude
- 32:57Speaker 2: to a girl, and like you know, there was interviewing
- 32:59Speaker 2: about the movie and all that, and I literally just
- 33:02Speaker 2: came across a TikTok video which is set up by
- 33:06Speaker 2: Scientology to bash Lea Remedy and this other actor. And
- 33:11Speaker 2: I came across it and I see it about Lea Remedy.
- 33:13Speaker 2: I'm like, that's weird. I've met her and she's totally
- 33:16Speaker 2: not that. You know, it's not rude to the catering status.
- 33:20Speaker 2: She's never has been that way. And I was like, okay,
- 33:23Speaker 2: but you know, people have an opinion. Then I saw
- 33:24Speaker 2: another one about this other guy, and so I looked
- 33:27Speaker 2: up that guy's name and I'm like, has this guy
- 33:29Speaker 2: left Scientology? Yes? He has? Okay, So I'm like, they
- 33:32Speaker 2: literally created a fake podcast. It actually looks like a
- 33:37Speaker 2: fake documentary where they're cunning clips of just people saying
- 33:42Speaker 2: well I knew her then and I worked with her
- 33:44Speaker 2: here and bashing her. And so I was like, with
- 33:48Speaker 2: the Blake Lively stuff, I'm like, yeah, maybe there was
- 33:51Speaker 2: something in which they put it out there, or they
- 33:53Speaker 2: pushed it, or it was bots or something. Then the
- 33:57Speaker 2: more that came out, I was like, well, there's more here,
- 34:00Speaker 2: you know, I this doesn't make sense. And I don't
- 34:03Speaker 2: believe that she there was a sexual harassment thing. And
- 34:06Speaker 2: I do think Ryan Reynolds is weird, and I do
- 34:08Speaker 2: think all the stuff about him in the Deadpool where
- 34:11Speaker 2: that he was mocking his character and everything is strange.
- 34:15Speaker 2: What's interesting about this is that you know a couple
- 34:17Speaker 2: of people we know that do what we do, that
- 34:20Speaker 2: we all love, like Zach Peter. He has really, you know,
- 34:24Speaker 2: read everything and done all this stuff and which is great,
- 34:29Speaker 2: but I personally have kind of lost interest. So the
- 34:34Speaker 2: Van the Van Damn or whatever the company is that
- 34:38Speaker 2: like whenever somebody talks about the weird fake company that
- 34:41Speaker 2: actually did the the subpoena to find out about the
- 34:44Speaker 2: text messages. It just gets like too technical. It's kind
- 34:47Speaker 2: of like what happened I think with the Bravo pop
- 34:50Speaker 2: culture fans that we all share losing interest in the
- 34:54Speaker 2: Tom Girardi stuff. Right after a certain point we were like,
- 35:00Speaker 2: so what, I don't care about these fucking earrings Ron Richard's.
- 35:03Speaker 2: You know, like like you just like whatever, you know.
- 35:06Speaker 1: Get tired of it, You get tired of hearing about
- 35:08Speaker 1: it if there's nothing new.
- 35:09Speaker 2: Yeah, but the latest thing that happened is Zach was
- 35:13Speaker 2: doing the live show yeah, and.
- 35:15Speaker 3: He was served. Okay, I thought that was a joke.
- 35:19Speaker 3: I thought that was a joke because I saw Zach
- 35:22Speaker 3: Wait is it a joke? I thought I saw Zach
- 35:24Speaker 3: put that clip up and I was like, WHOA, Like
- 35:26Speaker 3: I made a comment. I think he made a comment.
- 35:28Speaker 3: Lots of people did, and I was like, wow, I
- 35:29Speaker 3: get you know what.
- 35:30Speaker 2: I texted him and he didn't write me back, so
- 35:32Speaker 2: maybe it was a joke that look what I'm going
- 35:34Speaker 2: to tell you exactly what I texted because I was like,
- 35:37Speaker 2: this is fucking great because I know he's not getting
- 35:40Speaker 2: paid by wayfair and I'm like, this is such great,
- 35:43Speaker 2: juicy content. This is going to make people want to
- 35:45Speaker 2: go to your live show. And maybe that I you were.
- 35:50Speaker 1: I think that I watched the whole thing and then
- 35:53Speaker 1: to you know, it was maybe like a five minute
- 35:55Speaker 1: clip or something, and I got towards the end and
- 35:57Speaker 1: that whoever was the guest next to him, they ked
- 36:00Speaker 1: around like that the guests had done that as like
- 36:02Speaker 1: a joke on Zach Oh.
- 36:05Speaker 2: But it Yeah, well I didn't watch the whole thing.
- 36:10Speaker 2: I was just I just believed it. And because I
- 36:14Speaker 2: was like ball without a wait, without a crystal ball. Yeah,
- 36:19Speaker 2: I don't know if she I'm right. I was writing her,
- 36:22Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you being subpoenaed? Like what is happening?
- 36:25Speaker 2: And then I was kind of like, look, I've covered
- 36:28Speaker 2: it a lot. At first I was pro blake that
- 36:31Speaker 2: I was, you know, pro Justin. I will say when
- 36:34Speaker 2: I was pro blake, I got a way more hate
- 36:39Speaker 2: and bots and things than when I was pro justed.
- 36:43Speaker 2: So she she thinks he's doing a hate campaign on her.
- 36:48Speaker 2: He thinks she's doing a hate campaign on him. Yeah.
- 36:51Speaker 2: I don't really think either one of them are actively
- 36:54Speaker 2: doing I really don't. I don't. I think these things
- 36:57Speaker 2: just happened and it's going to be impossible to prove of,
- 37:00Speaker 2: like if there was a real campaign against each other.
- 37:03Speaker 2: But the whole thing is was you know. Yeah, then
- 37:08Speaker 2: I'm like, well, what is the lawsuit? It's just so confusing,
- 37:11Speaker 2: But it's gotten so down. It's gotten so confusing me.
- 37:14Speaker 2: But I've always said it, well, it won't hurt Ryan Reynolds.
- 37:17Speaker 2: He will do another Deadpool. Fifteen year old boys will
- 37:20Speaker 2: go see it. They don't care that his wife may
- 37:23Speaker 2: have been annoying at an ice cream shop. They're not
- 37:26Speaker 2: gonna that's not gonna keep people from seeing the movies.
- 37:29Speaker 2: So that's so funny. So okay, I thought it was real.
- 37:33Speaker 2: I guess I didn't listen to I didn't watch the
- 37:35Speaker 2: whole clip. I thought it was real, And I wrote
- 37:38Speaker 2: in saying this is like amazing for you, because I'm like,
- 37:40Speaker 2: this is totally good for your like live shows to
- 37:42Speaker 2: get people to want to go, and I was served
- 37:45Speaker 2: before doing a stand up show. Really yes, So then
- 37:50Speaker 2: I started to think it was this crazy thing where
- 37:56Speaker 2: I did a show at a San Diego club and
- 38:00Speaker 2: Peter came at the end of the five days and
- 38:03Speaker 2: there was an accounting thing mistake and he said that
- 38:07Speaker 2: the manager this is wrong. He goes, okay, well we'll
- 38:09Speaker 2: talk about fine, we leave next day. Peter like you know,
- 38:13Speaker 2: emails them to say, hey, there's this accounting mistake. It
- 38:16Speaker 2: should be this amount. The guy flipped out and like
- 38:21Speaker 2: it got it got to be a whole big thing.
- 38:23Speaker 2: Maybe I'll share the story or not. But anyway, in
- 38:26Speaker 2: the process they went and then served me. And so
- 38:29Speaker 2: I'm about to do La Royle Comedy Store in which
- 38:32Speaker 2: is another part of San Diego, and I park in
- 38:36Speaker 2: my the headliner spot in the back. It's not a
- 38:38Speaker 2: huge club, and this like pretty hot guy, like a
- 38:43Speaker 2: like maybe like a forty eight fifty year old guy
- 38:46Speaker 2: comes up to me with like a stack of things. Now,
- 38:49Speaker 2: sometimes when creepy people come up to you to have
- 38:52Speaker 2: you sign like a post a little thing, which I'm like,
- 38:54Speaker 2: good luck getting two dollars for this, right, yeah, I
- 38:57Speaker 2: always do it, And sometimes they're like giving you like
- 38:59Speaker 2: eight and by the eighth one You're like okay, dude,
- 39:01Speaker 2: Like yeah, but I'm always super flattered, right, but they
- 39:04Speaker 2: usually don't look this cute fit. So I was like, oh,
- 39:07Speaker 2: these these fans are like getting cuter, right because then
- 39:11Speaker 2: and then he's like, Hi, I'm with the San Diego
- 39:15Speaker 2: Police Force or something, and he shows me he's like bad.
- 39:18Speaker 2: Then I start getting real wet because I'm like, oh
- 39:20Speaker 2: my god, I have like a escort because the only
- 39:24Speaker 2: time this happened to me was what I did like
- 39:26Speaker 2: City Winery and Chicago. And then the next time I
- 39:29Speaker 2: did it, they didn't have them, but they did have
- 39:31Speaker 2: like Chicago's finance there one time, and I just felt
- 39:34Speaker 2: like so special to to like to walk you in,
- 39:37Speaker 2: oh yeah, and just have like a security guy there,
- 39:39Speaker 2: like hey, like this is like the hottest thing ever,
- 39:42Speaker 2: right yeah, And so I was like, oh, you know, hi,
- 39:47Speaker 2: like and he goes, You've been served, and I was
- 39:49Speaker 2: like oh. And so then I'm like shaking and I
- 39:54Speaker 2: had to go do my stand up set. But I
- 39:56Speaker 2: talked about it on stage right away. I was like,
- 39:58Speaker 2: I just got served, Like look like, I tell the
- 40:01Speaker 2: whole story just to like ease my nerves. But so
- 40:05Speaker 2: and then I had a I had a friend of
- 40:07Speaker 2: mine that had this other thing going on, and because
- 40:11Speaker 2: she had posted that she was coming to my show,
- 40:15Speaker 2: they served her at my show. So I'm like, when
- 40:17Speaker 2: you're being served, you know. So I'm like, I live
- 40:21Speaker 2: in a gated community now and I don't really like
- 40:24Speaker 2: go to a regular job like Chelsea Lately or something.
- 40:28Speaker 2: So when I saw that, I was like, Okay, if
- 40:31Speaker 2: they're really serving like Zach and whoever else, will I
- 40:35Speaker 2: be served because they think maybe I switched out over
- 40:38Speaker 2: to being team just In Baldoni or whatever. Yeah. Yeah,
- 40:43Speaker 2: because because when I went with Nick on Nick was
- 40:46Speaker 2: very pro blake Nick vile, and then I went on
- 40:49Speaker 2: his show and he was very still pro blake and
- 40:51Speaker 2: Ryan and I was very not I was like, hey,
- 40:55Speaker 2: you know what, I was still trying to like ride
- 40:57Speaker 2: the away but whatever. So I'm like, maybe they think
- 40:59Speaker 2: somehow now he got to me, you know. And but
- 41:03Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know how they're going to get
- 41:04Speaker 2: this to me because I don't have any shows. I
- 41:06Speaker 2: don't have any and so I'm thinking of my head.
- 41:08Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I'm going to an event on Thursday.
- 41:11Speaker 2: I'm going to Guy Branham invited me to, you know,
- 41:16Speaker 2: the podcast taping that Bowen Wang has with Matt Rogers.
- 41:21Speaker 1: Lost Culture Reesas.
- 41:22Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I forgot that. How you know, I'm me
- 41:24Speaker 2: with pronunciation. Anyway, they're doing a live filming a show
- 41:30Speaker 2: that has actually aired on broad on Bravo. Okay, so
- 41:33Speaker 2: guys like, would you like to go that I've had
- 41:34Speaker 2: Matt Rogers and my show. I'm like, yeah, that sounds
- 41:36Speaker 2: like fun. So I was like, I mean, I kind
- 41:40Speaker 2: of like, I literally was like, I kind of want
- 41:42Speaker 2: to be served, like I serve, Like, well, I didn't
- 41:46Speaker 2: do anything served for the subpoena that I know. I
- 41:49Speaker 2: didn't ever talk to Justin mildoni Or's people. Yeah, so
- 41:52Speaker 2: that's why I was like what I thought Zach really was.
- 41:55Speaker 2: I kind of thought it was good because I knew
- 41:57Speaker 2: he wasn't. And I'm like, then, go oh, like, go
- 42:00Speaker 2: be part of it. You know, you did such a
- 42:03Speaker 2: good journalism and did such a convincing thing that they thought.
- 42:06Speaker 2: But now that you told me, it's not true. Sorry.
- 42:09Speaker 2: So the only people that were really served were pres
- 42:11Speaker 2: and Candae and so do you think their people just
- 42:15Speaker 2: picked like the two biggest names.
- 42:17Speaker 1: Then they probably did, and they either got to have
- 42:21Speaker 1: some semblance of proof I think to serve them, to
- 42:26Speaker 1: try to get their information right. You can't just just
- 42:28Speaker 1: pick the two biggest names out of the sky. Then
- 42:31Speaker 1: you're gonna pick DOMI, you're gonna pick Heather McDonald's, you're
- 42:34Speaker 1: gonna pick like names of people that you know what
- 42:36Speaker 1: I mean.
- 42:36Speaker 2: But I didn't overly do like the extent that like
- 42:41Speaker 2: other people have done. I would, but I do have
- 42:44Speaker 2: one clip about Blake that just on my Instagram alone
- 42:49Speaker 2: is like in the millions. So that's why I was like,
- 42:51Speaker 2: if they're really going after like everybody that's talked about it, I.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Was like, maybe, so that's that's all I know.
- 42:59Speaker 2: Who knows? Yeah, so who knows what that That could
- 43:02Speaker 2: go on for a really long time. I do just
- 43:05Speaker 2: feel like people are losing a little interest in it.
- 43:07Speaker 1: Oh I've totally lost interest. Yeah, I'm only interested when
- 43:10Speaker 1: they talk about Taylor Swift. Okay, let's talk about the
- 43:14Speaker 1: Denise Richards divorce. Like that kind of came out of
- 43:19Speaker 1: the blue, right.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Well, I invited her to the party that you went to.
- 43:24Speaker 2: Yea to your party? Yeah, fun and it was great.
- 43:28Speaker 2: I didn't you know. I dm'd A lot of people
- 43:31Speaker 2: sent them the invite. It's summer. Some of them I
- 43:34Speaker 2: heard from Oh my god, I'd love to Some of
- 43:37Speaker 2: them went through my pr person, but I didn't hear
- 43:40Speaker 2: from her, but I was like whatever, you know, but
- 43:43Speaker 2: she put on the show and we were friendly anyway.
- 43:45Speaker 2: She wrote me last a few days ago back and
- 43:49Speaker 2: I was like two thirty in the morning DM, and
- 43:51Speaker 2: she's like, oh my god, I'm just seeing this now.
- 43:53Speaker 2: I'm so sorry I missed it, Like here's my number
- 43:58Speaker 2: and you know, please let me know the next time
- 44:01Speaker 2: or whatever. So then I was like this after I
- 44:04Speaker 2: already like talked about the breakup with Stu, yeah, with
- 44:08Speaker 2: her show, and I didn't say anything bad really about her,
- 44:11Speaker 2: but I was like whatever, And I mean I was
- 44:14Speaker 2: like pro her all the way, like he seems like
- 44:16Speaker 2: a nightmare and so anyway, so then I wrote her
- 44:19Speaker 2: back and I was like, sorry, they missed it, you know,
- 44:22Speaker 2: sorry they missed it. Love to have you come back
- 44:24Speaker 2: on the show, Like of course, I'd rather have water
- 44:26Speaker 2: a couple of the show. I'm sure she probably is
- 44:28Speaker 2: not looking to do shows until this gets settled. But
- 44:31Speaker 2: that was another one where people were saying, I think
- 44:34Speaker 2: it's fake to like protect her assets because he's got
- 44:39Speaker 2: legal issues. And again I'm like, I've never I have
- 44:43Speaker 2: never really seen when people think it's fake that it's
- 44:46Speaker 2: turned out fake, like you know, short of the yes,
- 44:50Speaker 2: the Sherriff Pepinie, both the sherrf Pepinie I was suspicious
- 44:55Speaker 2: of when she said it was the two Mexican women.
- 44:57Speaker 2: I'm like, why women don't kidnap and why would they
- 44:59Speaker 2: just Royer looks it's going to be trafficked. I was suspicious.
- 45:03Speaker 2: The day of Jesse Smollett, I was doing it was
- 45:07Speaker 2: our topic. We were doing uh Wenny Williams, and I
- 45:10Speaker 2: was like, and they said there were two white men
- 45:15Speaker 2: who were wearing masks and maga hats. And I'm like, well,
- 45:20Speaker 2: how do they know that they're white if they're wearing masks?
- 45:24Speaker 2: And they're like, don't say that on stage right, and
- 45:27Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm not saying. I'm just saying
- 45:28Speaker 2: like like, how would you know? Like the voice like
- 45:32Speaker 2: I'm just get the back like I was like, So
- 45:34Speaker 2: I remember thinking right off the bat Chris that I
- 45:36Speaker 2: talked that day, Chris Benol and He's like, something's fishy.
- 45:39Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but I'm not touching a racial topic,
- 45:42Speaker 2: like forget it. Yeah, So with this for the with
- 45:46Speaker 2: this one, I don't think that he if this was
- 45:52Speaker 2: a fake divorce that you would also put in all
- 45:55Speaker 2: those demands of money and this and that and saying
- 45:59Speaker 2: I have no income and everything. And but then someone
- 46:02Speaker 2: would argue, well, that's they're setting up the thing so
- 46:05Speaker 2: that whoever is suing him shouldn't sue him. But I
- 46:09Speaker 2: don't think people want to fuck would fuck with their
- 46:12Speaker 2: marriage and their family like that. I don't know, but
- 46:14Speaker 2: maybe people do.
- 46:16Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean strange people said that, you know,
- 46:18Speaker 1: with Doret and PK about their divorce. They're like, oh,
- 46:21Speaker 1: you know, she didn't do so great this season before
- 46:23Speaker 1: inn Housewives, so they're going to pretend to get a
- 46:25Speaker 1: divorce and then pretend to reconcile for the show. And
- 46:31Speaker 1: you know, people say that all the time, especially you
- 46:32Speaker 1: know people on our shows, like oh, they're getting a
- 46:34Speaker 1: divorce for ratings or whatever. They're really not getting divorced.
- 46:40Speaker 1: A lot of people say that about Erica and Tom
- 46:41Speaker 1: as well, like she's trying to protect herself because he's
- 46:44Speaker 1: getting sued.
- 46:46Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kyler Mariso too, I know, I know. And
- 46:50Speaker 2: you know, speaking of Deit and p K, Yeah, another
- 46:56Speaker 2: horrible shooting and robbery happened very close to their house.
- 47:03Speaker 2: And yes, this just happened yesterday. So there was a woman.
- 47:08Speaker 2: She's been on a musical supervisor executive producer of American
- 47:13Speaker 2: all for years. They live in a very nice like
- 47:16Speaker 2: redone modern house and Encino Incino's not gated, but it's
- 47:21Speaker 2: very expensive homes and maybe you know, anyone could just
- 47:25Speaker 2: drive into the onto the street. Yeah, and and they
- 47:31Speaker 2: someone said, oh, I see a suspicious person whatever, and
- 47:36Speaker 2: like like a week a few days ago, and the
- 47:37Speaker 2: cops came and they didn't see didn't find anything, and
- 47:40Speaker 2: then nobody heard from them for like four days. And
- 47:44Speaker 2: they went in there and they were shot dead in
- 47:46Speaker 2: two different rooms. And they caught the guy because there
- 47:51Speaker 2: was a he didn't have a he didn't have a
- 47:53Speaker 2: huge record, but he had enough a record that there
- 47:55Speaker 2: was a fingerprint and he was in the system. And
- 47:57Speaker 2: he was like a twenty two year old guy and
- 48:00Speaker 2: it was a robbery gone wrong. He came in with
- 48:03Speaker 2: a gun and they he was robbing them, and they
- 48:07Speaker 2: walked in on him, and I guess he panicked or whatever.
- 48:10Speaker 2: He shot them and left and they and so I'm like,
- 48:14Speaker 2: you know, that was always so weird, the thing, and
- 48:18Speaker 2: I understood why it was weird. And I talked about
- 48:20Speaker 2: it at length. Why I thought it was weird their crime,
- 48:23Speaker 2: gang durit in PK's crime for many reasons, but it's
- 48:28Speaker 2: like anything, there's so much crime, Like you know, the
- 48:33Speaker 2: fact that they left the phone, the fact that they
- 48:35Speaker 2: came at ten, they didn't take her wedding ring. I'm like, well,
- 48:38Speaker 2: the wedding ring could have been in a jewelry bag.
- 48:40Speaker 2: She you know, they may have not even thought to
- 48:42Speaker 2: look at her fingers because they knew everything was in
- 48:45Speaker 2: the closet. I don't know, but I feel like at
- 48:49Speaker 2: this point with CHERRYF Peppini, Justice Smulett, I feel like
- 48:52Speaker 2: there's one thing cops want to find out. It's if
- 48:56Speaker 2: someone is faking yeah crime. Yeah. And I think that
- 49:01Speaker 2: if it wasn't real, if there was some type of
- 49:05Speaker 2: thing behind her back and listen, I I have discussed this,
- 49:09Speaker 2: thinking was it and I'm just saying I I don't
- 49:15Speaker 2: think so now I definitely, I definitely think And I
- 49:17Speaker 2: think that was what really got Garcel to a place
- 49:21Speaker 2: where she's like, I'm quitting because I think she did
- 49:25Speaker 2: talk about something that a lot of people were talking about.
- 49:28Speaker 2: I think that, you know, she brought it up again
- 49:31Speaker 2: and then at the reunion she just looked like a bitch. Yeah,
- 49:35Speaker 2: and then nobody had her side at that point because
- 49:39Speaker 2: after a year and a half, there was there was,
- 49:41Speaker 2: there was nothing suspicious. Now, could have come out two
- 49:44Speaker 2: years from now, sure, Sherry Peppini took four years. Sure
- 49:47Speaker 2: it could. But the crime that's happening like in La
- 49:53Speaker 2: and stuff. No, I mean it happened to Kim Kardashian.
- 49:57Speaker 2: People thought that was fake. We know that wasn't fake. Like,
- 50:00Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, h but I feel I
- 50:04Speaker 2: feel badly now that, like you know, that there was
- 50:07Speaker 2: any kind of speculation, But I know, I just think
- 50:11Speaker 2: that with.
- 50:12Speaker 1: That, there was a speculation on that. Durie wasn't in
- 50:15Speaker 1: on it.
- 50:16Speaker 2: Oh. I always said she was never in on it. Yeah,
- 50:18Speaker 2: But like I think that it was just a case
- 50:22Speaker 2: with their marriage of like you know, she when she
- 50:27Speaker 2: met him, he I don't know if he was divorced
- 50:29Speaker 2: or getting divorced, but he had already had a whole
- 50:31Speaker 2: family and a whole life. Yeah, and she was this young,
- 50:35Speaker 2: younger girl who's marrying this rich guy who shows the
- 50:39Speaker 2: world and buys her anything and is very flashy, and
- 50:43Speaker 2: she probably just you know, wanted to suck his d
- 50:47Speaker 2: every night, tell him how graty was and all this other.
- 50:49Speaker 2: And she was pregnant. They had Jagger before they got married,
- 50:52Speaker 2: so she got you know, got it, tied it in
- 50:55Speaker 2: with a baby and did all this stuff. And then
- 50:59Speaker 2: she changed. And she changed because she's aged fifteen years
- 51:05Speaker 2: and because she became a mother to two kids, and
- 51:09Speaker 2: she became famous. So yeah, those three things, you're not
- 51:12Speaker 2: going to be the same eager to get on her
- 51:15Speaker 2: knees woman when you were you know, forty five and
- 51:19Speaker 2: she was twenty five. Like, it's a totally different story
- 51:22Speaker 2: now that you're like fifty eight and she you know,
- 51:25Speaker 2: he did write me though, because I said they were
- 51:27Speaker 2: twenty years apart. You are only they're only eight and
- 51:31Speaker 2: a half years apart.
- 51:33Speaker 1: Well, that's shocking, because he does like old shock.
- 51:36Speaker 2: So he wrote me. He like heard what I said.
- 51:38Speaker 2: He wrote me and was like just saying, you know,
- 51:41Speaker 2: you we're only eight years apart. And that's when they
- 51:44Speaker 2: were like still together or something. And I was like, oh, okay,
- 51:48Speaker 2: well she looks really young.
- 51:49Speaker 1: That's like, can't be the first time he's heard that.
- 51:52Speaker 2: I wasn't good toy like, remember Kathy Hilton goes fifty six.
- 51:55Speaker 2: I thought he was fifty six when I met him
- 51:57Speaker 2: like twenty years ago.
- 52:00Speaker 1: Oh okay, let me ask you about Okay, So Rachel
- 52:02Speaker 1: Zoe is becoming a cast member of Beverly Hills. I'm
- 52:05Speaker 1: very excited about it. But you know, the first thing
- 52:08Speaker 1: I thought of was because when you think of Rachel Zoe,
- 52:10Speaker 1: I think about the Rachel Zoe Project, the show it
- 52:13Speaker 1: would have Brad Greski. Well, Brad Greski has made a
- 52:15Speaker 1: whole side career of doing those Housewives impressions where he
- 52:20Speaker 1: like puts on the gowns and he does He's not
- 52:22Speaker 1: going to be able to do that now because of
- 52:24Speaker 1: his feud with Rachel Zoe.
- 52:28Speaker 2: Yeah, but he should probably hang that up anyway, honestly,
- 52:32Speaker 2: Like it's kind of like me with the Barbies, Like
- 52:34Speaker 2: it's fun, but like, yeah, you know what I was
- 52:36Speaker 2: just saying, Like I was so obsessed with the AI
- 52:40Speaker 2: you know those AI babies that do the reunions.
- 52:43Speaker 1: But those those Atlanta ones are so hilarious.
- 52:46Speaker 2: They are cute. But now like I'm like, okay, like
- 52:50Speaker 2: anyone could put that together. It's not like a talent
- 52:53Speaker 2: now to do it. Yeah, and so I'm kind and
- 52:56Speaker 2: now you keep seeing them like and I'm like some
- 52:59Speaker 2: are better than but like I'm just kind of like,
- 53:02Speaker 2: that's software my producer was.
- 53:03Speaker 1: I asked my producer about it. I goes, can anybody
- 53:06Speaker 1: do this? Like could I do this with an episode
- 53:07Speaker 1: of my show? And she said, you can, but to
- 53:11Speaker 1: get the software is very expensive. She's like, do you
- 53:13Speaker 1: want me to look into it? I go no. I
- 53:16Speaker 1: thought it was like a buddy us.
- 53:18Speaker 2: Right, it's going to be over with, you know what
- 53:20Speaker 2: I mean? Like so I kind of feel like the
- 53:23Speaker 2: like mouthing something like he's literally lip syncing their voices.
- 53:28Speaker 2: He's not doing an impression, but I get it. It's fresh,
- 53:32Speaker 2: it's funny, and he's shared. But like, he really is
- 53:35Speaker 2: such an amazing stylist. I mean he styled Debbie Moore
- 53:39Speaker 2: for the last year and a half. Yeah, and every
- 53:43Speaker 2: single now granted she's gorgeous and studying and skinny, but
- 53:46Speaker 2: every single thing he put her in with stunning. Like
- 53:50Speaker 2: he should just stick with like being a fashion person.
- 53:55Speaker 2: Like I mean, I don't know, like, fine, go ahead,
- 54:00Speaker 2: but I feel like if he was sitting around with
- 54:03Speaker 2: his husband, who's a great you know sitcom writer if
- 54:07Speaker 2: he was like, oh, now, Rachel's going maybe I can't
- 54:10Speaker 2: do this, and I'd be like, this is your sign
- 54:12Speaker 2: from God to like move on. You know, Like when
- 54:16Speaker 2: I was doing all the Barbies, and for those that
- 54:17Speaker 2: don't know, I started to do these like Barbie reenactments
- 54:20Speaker 2: and they were a lot of work. So I would
- 54:22Speaker 2: get the barbie and at first I was just trying
- 54:25Speaker 2: to make their outfits, and then I had a great
- 54:26Speaker 2: juicy Scooper go, I can do that for you, and
- 54:30Speaker 2: so then we'd see like a reunion photo before and
- 54:33Speaker 2: she would get all the outfits and send them and
- 54:36Speaker 2: I would go to Target and I would like pick
- 54:38Speaker 2: out based on their faces, or someone would send me
- 54:42Speaker 2: old barbies and I'd find like one that really kind
- 54:44Speaker 2: of looked like or they'd say this really looks like
- 54:46Speaker 2: Sutton or whatever, and it was really fun and I
- 54:49Speaker 2: would do them, but I would do the voices and
- 54:51Speaker 2: I would just reenact the episodes and make fun of it.
- 54:54Speaker 2: And I had someone helping me at the time. And
- 54:58Speaker 2: then she left, got married and did a whole other thing,
- 55:02Speaker 2: and so when she left, I kind of felt like
- 55:05Speaker 2: and when she said, Okay, I'm you know, I'm I'm
- 55:08Speaker 2: gonna do something else now. Her name was Kelly, and
- 55:11Speaker 2: she was really good, and I go, well, I just
- 55:13Speaker 2: watch you know, I'm probably gonna stop the barbies like
- 55:15Speaker 2: and I was literally felt like I can't do it alone.
- 55:18Speaker 2: And it's just and the thing is that it did
- 55:21Speaker 2: like boost my following a little bit, but because it
- 55:24Speaker 2: wasn't my face, I felt like people just were like, oh,
- 55:28Speaker 2: who does the barbies? Blah blah. So then when we
- 55:30Speaker 2: were Bravocan together, this girl comes up to me and
- 55:33Speaker 2: she goes, I do the whatever she calls. I forgot
- 55:38Speaker 2: her name, and she goes, I know you hate me
- 55:40Speaker 2: because I do barbies now, and I go, I don't
- 55:43Speaker 2: hate you.
- 55:44Speaker 1: You're like, I've never don't even know what you're talking about.
- 55:46Speaker 2: I think, I go, I've seen I go. No, I had,
- 55:48Speaker 2: I'd seen them and I thought they were good, like
- 55:50Speaker 2: she would but she would do the voice to to
- 55:53Speaker 2: actually take the audio from the show. Okay, so she
- 55:56Speaker 2: doesn't do voices, which made it even better. Honestly, she
- 56:00Speaker 2: did a really really good job at it everything, but
- 56:02Speaker 2: I said, I go, no, go for it, I go.
- 56:03Speaker 2: I just felt it was very time consuming and it's
- 56:05Speaker 2: not like something that was upping my profile. I wasn't
- 56:09Speaker 2: making money from it. The girl that was helping me
- 56:11Speaker 2: with all the outfits, she also said, hey, like this
- 56:15Speaker 2: hasn't done that, even though I tag her every time, Yeah,
- 56:18Speaker 2: Betsy Wiley had lou did it, and she goes, I
- 56:21Speaker 2: just feel like this isn't and I go totally get it,
- 56:23Speaker 2: like total like it's fine, you know, and so anyway
- 56:26Speaker 2: then but I don't I don't know if I don't
- 56:29Speaker 2: follow the girl anymore, if she still didn't. But I
- 56:32Speaker 2: but you know, now it's like, oh, you can do
- 56:33Speaker 2: it with AI, or you can make the barbies like
- 56:35Speaker 2: move now and all that stuff, or I don't know.
- 56:40Speaker 2: I feel like that like Bravo, like fandom and fun
- 56:44Speaker 2: kind of goes in like waves of things, you know,
- 56:48Speaker 2: and like I feel right now it's not a huge wave. Yeah,
- 56:53Speaker 2: like I feel it's kind of like there's different stuff
- 56:56Speaker 2: that you know, I don't know, Like I did you
- 57:00Speaker 2: watch OC.
- 57:01Speaker 1: I watched the first episode of o C. Let me
- 57:03Speaker 1: see what my notes are here for you. We've only
- 57:06Speaker 1: seen the first episode so far. Now, I gotta say
- 57:08Speaker 1: the best part of the whole episode for me was
- 57:10Speaker 1: Shannon doing the drums at the Red Door Spot. Just her,
- 57:14Speaker 1: That's just that's just Shannon being wacky.
- 57:16Speaker 2: She's just what I think I fell asleep. I think
- 57:20Speaker 2: I I'm I'm like they just to me. I don't know,
- 57:26Speaker 2: like they.
- 57:27Speaker 1: Went to the Red Door Spot and they're doing like
- 57:28Speaker 1: an outdoor thing.
- 57:30Speaker 2: Okay, Shannon Door. I will say I Shadham Door is
- 57:35Speaker 2: good TV and she should stay forever. Like yeah, you know,
- 57:43Speaker 2: it was really funny because following this one guy and
- 57:46Speaker 2: he was like, his name is like far A. I
- 57:50Speaker 2: think he came to the party. He's really funny. He's
- 57:52Speaker 2: an influencer. He's black, he's cute, he's young. Do you
- 57:55Speaker 2: remember him. He's so funny.
- 57:57Speaker 1: Anyway to meet him, I gotta have.
- 57:58Speaker 2: Him on the show. So anyway, he he's like like
- 58:02Speaker 2: the way he does this thing, he was just like
- 58:03Speaker 2: he's like, I'm sorry, I am. I don't need to
- 58:06Speaker 2: follow Emily and Gina because I Am not gonna be
- 58:09Speaker 2: team Unfabulous. Ever. He's like, at least, you know, at
- 58:13Speaker 2: least Katie, you know, is fabulous. Like in her way,
- 58:18Speaker 2: He's like, those two are just not he goes those
- 58:20Speaker 2: two are women you'd see shopping at TJ Max, like
- 58:22Speaker 2: he was just and I thought, oh my gosh, Like
- 58:25Speaker 2: I I personally think they're smart. I like them. I
- 58:28Speaker 2: think they're but that's not what you're looking for in housewives.
- 58:33Speaker 2: And I think that.
- 58:35Speaker 1: They've been on for so long now, Heather, every season,
- 58:37Speaker 1: everybody's like fire them. I think they've been on like
- 58:39Speaker 1: six seasons. They're never going away. You know, they're never
- 58:42Speaker 1: going away.
- 58:42Speaker 2: And I think the difference is when you watch like
- 58:44Speaker 2: Real Houses of New York. When they all started, they
- 58:47Speaker 2: were in their forties and they did have young kids,
- 58:50Speaker 2: and we did see you know, Ali Ali Shapiro, Jill's
- 58:54Speaker 2: daughter go to a fac but like we did see
- 58:57Speaker 2: Luyne's son like try to do break dancing once terrible,
- 59:00Speaker 2: but there weren't these big, drawn out storylines about their kids.
- 59:05Speaker 1: I don't like anything with Emily. I don't. I don't
- 59:08Speaker 1: I think she should. I think I think I understand
- 59:11Speaker 1: it is like we're going to I get we're going
- 59:13Speaker 1: to show everything, but he's ten, and so when he's
- 59:17Speaker 1: fourteen and his kids, those kids are really on their devices,
- 59:21Speaker 1: it's just going to be fodder for other kids to
- 59:23Speaker 1: make fun of him. Or I think I don't like
- 59:26Speaker 1: it and I like it alive. I just don't like it.
- 59:28Speaker 2: I think ten is too young. I mean, what's what
- 59:31Speaker 2: Brittany is doing? I think is good? First of all,
- 59:35Speaker 2: she needs to provide for her family, Yes, and she
- 59:38Speaker 2: is going to get help and the best recommendations and
- 59:42Speaker 2: anything from she can be an advocate for kids. Yeah,
- 59:45Speaker 2: there's an advocate. And when you're dealing with that, you
- 59:48Speaker 2: need other moms to come and say, this is what
- 59:50Speaker 2: you should do, let me help you. And she is
- 59:52Speaker 2: getting great support and she's giving great support to other
- 59:55Speaker 2: parents in her defense though. They they come to her
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: and they're like, what's going on? And if she's really
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: stressed about this, which any mom would you know, they're like,
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: well that this is why you should share it. So
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: and now she gets criticized for not sharing. Now, if
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: she didn't share it, she'd have to like what fake
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: fight with Shane, Like they all have to have to
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: keep their jobs. They all have to pretend to do
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: a strip tease for their father in law in Vegas.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: I don't know, like we saw it, Like what do
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: you want from these people? Like that's why all of them,
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: anybody that gets on these shows has got to start
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: another business, so that like they didn't do it all
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: for nothing, so they just don't end up divorced and
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: broke like I mean, I just end up like.
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel like the little boys ten,
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: he's in school, the kids now are starting to I
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: don't think that.
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: He's got an eating disorder and the other boys are going.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: To make fun of them. I don't know.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: I personally would have not shared it. Yeah, you know,
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: because obviously that scene was so set up to share.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: You're having snacks, You're gonna say you don't want a snack.
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: But the other kid didn't want a snack either, didn't
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: he I mean, both of them didn't want a snack.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: I can't remember, like the gateway into just shamee coming in.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: Right, plan it, let's plan this conversation and all this
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: kind of other stuff, and then you know, but then
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: she's more concerned. But she's gonna sue the nanny who
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: said who dm'd her and said, yeah, they talked this. Yeah,
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: those kids know that Emily hates Heather. Were like, so
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: she's gonna like try to sue about that. Yet she's
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: gonna put her kids like medical records on.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: This storyline about the nanny. I was done with it
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: last season and I'm still done with it. And it
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: just seems like they all dislike Katie, which is fine,
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: they can all dislike somebody. There's probably a lot going
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: on there that we don't know about. But this whole
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: thing about the nanny said this, I'm like, okay, come on,
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: either get the nanny on to say what she said,
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: or just let's go talking about the nanny. This is stupid.
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I even't feel like it's just such like a
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: microtopic that I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't know. Well,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna watch it. I will go back
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: and watch the other one that I want, the one
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: the Valley, Yeah, the Valley and the other one, Like
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: I I will, I will watch it.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: But are you watching Miami? Are you caught up on
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: the reunion?
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: I am watching Miami. I I think that Martina and
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: whatever her name is, Juliana suck and goodbye, like you're
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: fucking awful. You're so mean too, Gertie. I can't believe
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: that she tweeted like no one should have a surroget it,
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: you can't have it all. It just shows like her
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: privilege it was just so gross and like, yeah, I'm
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: glad When I first saw that, and bloggers and you know,
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: Instagram people were posting it. My first question was I
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: DM someone who posted, and I go, when was this?
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: I thought it was ten years ago? And I was like,
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: if it was ten years ago, come on, you know, yeah,
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: it was like it was like July third, And I'm like,
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: what and why why.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: Does the world need to know Martina and Nevertulova's opinion
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: on surrogacy.
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? So, because are you
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: thinking you're superior because you adopted two kids at like
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: sixty seven or whatever. You are, like through the foster
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: care system, which is totally great if you did that,
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: good for you, But like, do you want to fucking
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: meddle and that someone else that goes through a surrogate
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: so that they can you know, I just I just
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: had a girl on my show and actress, and she
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: was trying to get prayed for a long time, realized
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: she didn't have many eggs left they were She got
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: an egg donor, she got a sperm donor, she got
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: a surrogate to carry the baby because she couldn't carry
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: the baby either. All as a single mother because she
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: couldn't adopt it as a single mother. And then about
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: a week before the surrogate was going to give birth,
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: she and Fred Armison, the actor, fell in love. Yeah.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: Now they're married a three year old, so it's like, yeah, no,
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: one should wait around for the guy and sometimes, yeah,
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: sometimes adoption isn't easy if you are And the other part, Yeah,
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: she was single and she was over forty, So I
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: thought that, and I thought the whole Julia thing acting crazy,
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: pouring the water in her she is afraid of losing
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: your job too, and is being performative, and it's like,
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's like, and now we're all too sophisticated,
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: we all recognize it. It just doesn't feel like authentic
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: or whatever. But I like Miami because I like the
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: city and I think it's pretty, like it's fun to
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: look at and they're all kind of fun and she
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: I will say, Kiki's storyline is boring.
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: Sorry, she's so funny. She's she has Kiki has great
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: one liners.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: Did you even know she had kids until this season?
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: No?
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: And then I was like, well, like when she has
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: two kids, I had was how was that?
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: Maybe it's so weird. Maybe it was told to us
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: before we fell asleep. I mean, I don't know, but I.
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: That was kind of strange, and so I'm like, Okay,
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: Kikia guests can be a part of it whatever.
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: But I missed doctor Nicole because I loved looking at
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: her pretty face. I loved doctor.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: Nicole and she was smart and everything. And I guess
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: the story is that she didn't want to do the
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: show because she found out that the new girl was
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: coming in. At one time, that girl dated her now husband.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: Yeah, and she also I saw, you know again, just
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: a post somewhere that said that she also found out
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: that somebody on the cast, maybe that girl, had hired
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: a private detective to like try to dig up dirt.
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: I think she was referring to Marisol. Really, why would
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: marais All do that? The way the way I saw
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: it is that she said, this girl who wasn't a
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: regular cast member found a detective to try to like
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: dig up some shit on me, and that's what she's
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: just like, I'm out.
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: I don't even know why Marisol would do that. It
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: doesn't seems like she would care that much. She seems
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: so I love it.
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: I mean, I think Marisol's really funny, Like, I think
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: she's like quality on the show. I think Alexia is.
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're all I think they're all good.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: There's no one that I'm like, don't. I mean, except
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see. I'm not into I'm glad
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: Julia got a facelift, though she looks prettier, you know,
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: like then that was that was revealed.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: Adriana, I'm like, I don't care about it. Adriana, she
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: looks really young. I just don't Every time she comes
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: on the screen, I'm like, who is that.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: I don't even know who it is either. I'm literally like, wait,
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: who is that? And then she's like with her friend.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if the French guy was like
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: the paid boyfriend. Remember when Kenya had the paid boyfriend
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: and a lot of them do that. I always remember
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: when Garcel not Garcel, Jesseelle Giselle. Remember when Giselle had
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: that like guy that was like on Summer House for
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: like a week and he was like calming around. That
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: was the fakeused.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: He was like standing around in her kitchen. We're like,
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: we don't believe.
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: He's yeah, And she was like, I'm like that she
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: literally typed up that script and like sent it to
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: him the night before. That was the fakest relate. Like Giselle,
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: I don't think wants any dude. I think she's just
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: happy in her life. Yeah, she's just happy to live
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: her life. But she had to go later to go
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: do that Paradise Hotel thing where like she was not
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: into any of them as she should. They all sucked.
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: They were all roast losers.
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: I did hear that Lala had been approached to be
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: on the next season. I love Hotel, now your friends
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: with I don't you think that would be great? Great?
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: I would hope that she would do it. I mean,
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: why not, but I but if she did, she would
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: probably say, you guys got to get me like a
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: rental house around the corner. Yeah, for the kids, and yeah,
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: my brother and my and my mom and the kids
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: all have to be there, and I have to be
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: able to like go spend the night there. But then
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: I'll do all the other stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: know she would not be comfortable, like even leaving for
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: three weeks no way. Yeah yeah, yeah.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: I did just want to ask if you watch any
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: of the real Housewives of Atlanta reunion.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: I did not watch the reunion. I watched a lot
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: of it, but I did kind of tap out mid season.
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: I loved to watch your reunion because I can catch
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: up on what I missed.
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: So, I mean, I do think it's I do think
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: the girl that's suing Bravo, like, does I have a
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: right to sue? I think what Kenya did was awful. Yeah,
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: and you know, and then to find out that it
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: wasn't even her in the photos that were shared at
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: the event.
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's not at the reunion obviously.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: Yeah. I think she's I think she will get something.
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: I think she'll get some money. I think that was
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: pretty bad.
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Now, Heather, everybody knows about your number
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: one in the world podcast.
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: You see scoop.
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: Yes, but tell everybody where they can find your podcast,
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: to find your Instagram, find your TikTok, find when you're
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: going on tour all the time.
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: Thank you so much. So do scoop us every Tuesday
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: Thursday Patreon, which I've been doing for over nine years now,
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: coming close to a thousand episodes in there. It's great.
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: And that's every Friday, and that's kind of like where
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: I tell the more personal stuff and there's other episodes
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: to like other top levels. I am going to be
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: Friday night at Bravo Con at the MGM.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: My tickets, I got my tay.
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: Yes, and that's that Friday night at ten. So if
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: people are going to that, get the ticket to that
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: because you'll be with a bunch of fun people and
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: it'll be very bravocentric, funny show and it's Heatherby on
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: dot net. For everything else, I'm going to be adding dates,
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: but right now that is my only day. I'm kind
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: of taking, like some a little bit of time off
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: because I traveled a lot last summer, which you saw
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: me at I did in a DC yes, So anyway,
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: thank you girl.
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: Everybody go check out Hoather's podcast if you haven't even
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: under a rock, and make sure to follow me on Instagram.
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: Also, Bodha thought, okay, I love you fight