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Episode 384 - I Don't Even Know What That Is!? · TechtalkRadio

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The following program is produced by the tech Talk Radio Network. This is Alice
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Cooper, the original Technoe Todd, and you're listening to tech Talk Radio.
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Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean
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de Weird Time Slick, and we are the show that talks about computers,
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technology and the Internet. Happy New Year to y'all. Four yeah, oh
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two o two four. Okay, let me read it, Slick. You're
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you're still writing twenty twenty four in your checks? How'd you know I have
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checks? Anybody says that. If anybody says that they are officially old,
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all right, you know it's only been we Kayla and I still have checkbooks.
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We still write checks for certain things, right, But you know everybody
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used to write checks for everything everything. Right. I made the comment,
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it's like, oh no, I'm gonna have to write twenty twenty four.
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I'm my checks. And I was like, oh man, I'm old.
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Do you even known I have balance a checkbook? Though? You? Okay?
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I was taught to me by my parents. I learned by going online
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and looking at how much is left in the account. That's how I balance
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that. That you're old? Is that you actually know how to balance a
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check book. Yeah, well, hey, we may not know how to
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balance a check book, slick, but we know how to back time,
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right we do, oh man, do it to the second for all of
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our radio friends. That is quite Uh, that is quite Actually is pretty
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easy, but we just make it sound difficult. Twelve minutes before one o'clock.
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Yes, how how was everybody a new year? Sean? How was
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yours? It was good? So my buddy Steve came down, uh,
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and we played some games, and then we watched Michigan beat Alabama. Oh
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cool, you like that day? Yeah, slick. How about yours?
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Bad dog? Bad bad dog? You didn't get bit by a dog?
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You ate some bad hot dogs? Right? How did that happen on over?
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Well, well, we'll have some fool we'll have a couple of drinks,
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we'll watch some television, you know, and then it was oh,
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neighbor down the hallway, it made some hot dogs all beef. Yeah,
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so you felt that the next day that night that oh man, I'm sorry.
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You know, Tucson does something pretty big and Sean, I don't know
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if you heard about this, you know out in you know, Indiana where
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you're at but they make They made a pretty good deal about it, and
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I have seen other cities doing these where they do drops of things. You
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know, you got the Big Ball drop in New York, which I ended
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up watching. I stayed up till midnight. I ended up watching it with
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Ryan Seacrest and did Ello Cool Jay and you had some good performances on there.
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But to kind of mirror that they do it based on, you know,
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where where they live, where their town is, and I've seen like
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small little statues dropped and when it drops it's midnight. I was kind of
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laughing because there is a town called Winnebago that would have been great if they
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dropped our Vy's No they didn't. But here in Tucson, Sean, we
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dropped the Taco Taco. A taco Taco bell got together and they do this
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big, huge taco bell blast drop and that's what they do. They raise
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it just before midnight. It's on a crane and then they just dropped.
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Actually it was a little off this year, but then they drop it and
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it's a big to do and it was a lot of fun. But a
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lot of people were talking about it, and I saw it getting some video
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coverage across the country. You know, in Tucson they dropped the taco so
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the city of the city I grew up in Luddington, Michigan. They started
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doing a ball drop in twenty twelve, twenty twelve or twenty thirteen, right
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and the year I moved back from San Diego. One of the guys who
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does a lot of the video stuff around town said, Hey, we want
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to live stream our New Year's Eve ball drop. Oh go, but we
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have to get it from downtown to the library because that's where they have the
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public access channel. That's how they get it into the Oh wow, Charter
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channel. How far what's the range on that? So it was like it
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was probably three quarters of a mile maybe. So I took some pieces and
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parts from work at Fox and did a microwave link, oh a two point
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four gig microwave link and analog so the thing. The quality was pretty pretty
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rough, but it did a two camera switch of the ball drop and it
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worked pretty good, and we live stream. We live streamed it to YouTube
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and to the public access, the PEG channel and the Charter channel that they
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have. So I sent the link. I sent the link of chat.
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You can put it on the blog. It's it's old, it's four x
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three. The quality is pretty rough, and I don't know if there's any
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audio with it. There's no audio on it right now either, because I
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don't think he had to record. I don't think the audio made it.
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But it's pretty pretty good for being twelve years ago. You know, check
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that out. It's on the blog. I was disappointed because there was a
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local television covered chair. But what they wanted you to do is they didn't
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want you to watch it on the TV where they had. I believe that
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they were running you No, they were running the uh the I think it
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was the k GUN channel. They were running their the actual ball drop out
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of New York. But I'm thinking, couldn't you have put the local Tucson
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drop right there on the screen. A small little said they wanted you to
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go online and watch it streamed. Streaming has become the way that they want
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you to watch stuff now. Yeah, and if you read the comments a
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lot of places, the programming that they tried to do was awful. Yeah,
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yeah, they were trying. They were trying to take live feeds from
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events using bonded cellular packs. Well, you go to event with half a
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million people. You try and use a bonded cellular pack at midnight, it's
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never gonna work because everybod's on their cell phone snapping or tweeting or liveing themselves,
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right, So you gotta it's I did a lot of news when I
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worked at news. I did a lot of New Year's Eve live shots right
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there. It was Great Rapids, San Diego, Great Rapids again, you
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know, I covered a lot of them, and they draw a lot of
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people, So they're cool events. But a lot of people still want a
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live stream, especially nowadays right where everything is streamed. Everybody wants to be
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live on Stapchat or Instagram or Twitter x whatever you want to call it,
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Facebook, you name it, right. So it's just all these news stations
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were trying to use the same technology as everybody else to live stream New Year's
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Eve coverage and it failed. And a lot of people don't understand what bonded
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cellular communications is, which is actually kind of a neat in theory. It's
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really cool now now they have live view, and I don't know if that
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works in the same principle is that is that live views exactly? That's exactly.
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It's one of the companies that makes bondeds Teller. Right, there's Live
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U, TVU, Tjerrod people, Tara Dec got into it for a while.
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There were a couple of big ones, but right, bonded cellular is
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pretty unique. Right. It takes I think most of them have either six
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or eight modems in them. Right. So it's two AT and T two
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T Mobile two Verizon two Infinity and to Google Fire or whatever whatever sim cards
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you want to get, and it spreads the video across all of those sim
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cards and spits it out to the internet. Wow. And then it all
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goes out to the Internet and then the receiver on the other end collects it
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all puts back together, and it's done in almost real time, isn't it?
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Is there a little delay it now when it first came out. So
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the first time I got to use bondit cellure was twenty eleven, twenty ten,
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twenty eleven, we got to demo some Taro Deck, some Taro Dec
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equipment through Tribune. They came to us, sit we want to we want
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to demo this stuff and used four USB cell modems that stuck out of the
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solo encoder. Oh cool, And you were lucky if you got sub ten
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seconds. Oh wow, just because of the latency the compression. Right,
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the compression wasn't there yet, right, h U six four was still relatively
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new at that time. H U six five had just wasn't even close to
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being ready or existing, you know, h GVC wasn't ready, So you
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were still dealing with you know, you're taking a ten eighty I signal one
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and a half gig per second or one and a half gig bandwidth and try
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to cram it over four cell modems. It's not going to go very well.
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You're gonna compress the hell out of it and it's gonna take a while
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for it to transmit, especially with only four cell modems. Now, is
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that worker than having your own dedicated system like we used to think it was
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microwave we were using for the video from truck. Yeah, it is.
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And it's more portable, right, That's that's the big function of it,
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right, is you have a backpack that you can just strap on, you
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can play your camera. You're you're a mobile news station. Okay, well
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yeah, that's for news I'm thinking. But I mean, if you're gonna
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if I want to live stream in the event I don't know if I want
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to use so. So the big right, the big things right now for
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live streaming news events are these bonded cellar packs, right, Starlink starlinks,
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those are the two. Those are the two big ones right now. I'm
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just wondering our people getting enough bandwidth off starlink. You can get about four
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to seven meg on starlink if and if you can pay for more, you
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can pay for priority access. The thing is, like Starlink, you really
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have to if you're getting Starlink, you have to pay for the If you
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want to be able to move around, you have to pay for the mobile
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plan or the RV plan or whatever they're calling it. Because if you don't
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pay for that, you're stuck to If you move it, then it gets
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crabby and it picks up on a different satellite. It's not gonna be you
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know, it's gonna tell you you can't do it here, or you're not
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gonna get priority bandwinds if you move the transceiver. Yeah. Yeah, So
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like if I took it from my house and took it to work or took
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it up to my parents' house, they would know you're picking up on a
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different you know, you're picking up on a different transponder, so therefore we're
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not gonna give you priority, or you're just gonna not let it let it
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connect. That it's got to be the most frustrating thing too, if you're
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doing a live stream event and you don't have the bandwidth, and you know,
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there are many times were I there was recently one where it was a
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memorial service for somebody who had passed away, and people wanted to join from
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other countries and it was going to be over zoom and it was it was
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going to be done, and the problem is they didn't have the bandwidth.
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And trying to find out what kind of connection you're going to have at a
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remote location when you go where you're gonna plug in. Is it gonna be
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Wi Fi? Are you gonna have a Cat five drop or your cat six
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seed drop? Whatever are you going to be able to do? And that
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can be frustrating because you have the best intentions for making a really good production
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and unfortunately you're tied to the limits of bandwidth. If starlink is able to
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change that, that would be great. Yeah, starlett kin for most right,
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and starlink actually offers you could actually tie multiple units together. Ooh,
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so you can do multiple and then use it as a almost like a bonded
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cellular but over bonded bond L and B. I don't know how you could
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like, I don't know how that would be called, right, So,
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but yeah, starlink is becoming pretty widely acceptable for remote live streaming or remote
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live events where you go and you want to do a live shot in the
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desert, or you want to do something and you don't want to pay one
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hundred thousand dollars to have a satellite truck operator drive out to the desert get
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stuck and you know, deal with the heat and you know, having a
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generator running all the time and fuel and you know, paying a driver per
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DMS and know all that stuff. So it's becoming this one man band.
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You have all the equipment you need to go live with go right, and
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that that benefits Say, like we talked about microwave, and if listeners are
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not they don't remember microwave. You had a van, maybe it had the
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TV station's logo on the side of it, and there was this you know,
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apparatus that stuck up through the middle of it or in the back of
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it that was your It would link and actually microwave to the rate to the
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TV station. But you had to be within a certain area. You had
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to be close to the tea or nearby at least, right, Yeah,
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you were lucky. So line of sight was a big thing for those,
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right, So you were lucky if you got fifteen to twenty miles that was
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your max range. So that was that. When I first started news,
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that was my primary job, right, I was the I was the live
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truck engineer, SAT truck operator. I drove the live trucks around. I
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set up the microwave bass, I tuned in the live shots, and that
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was my job, right. I drove to a live shot, I ran
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the live shot, I drove to a rot location. I set up the
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satellite. So the technology is not cheap, that's the problem. Right.
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So if you need to have, for one, you got to have the
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truck. You gotta have the live truck, got to staff it, you
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got to maintain it. You got to be certified to drive certain ones.
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You got to follow the band plans because you've got to follow that. You
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know it's licensed at that at that space, right, So it's either you're
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coordinating with the RF coordinator regionally and you're dealing with all that. So there's
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a lot of coordination that goes on with all of that stuff. And there's
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a lot more than people know that goes on with RF spectrums in the wild.
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I'm thinking about a guy named Monty. We had a guy named Monty
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when it was in Palm Springs and I worked for a top forty station there
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and we had a boombox on wheels. So basically what it was, it
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was a big you've seen those slick they're like they looked like a boombox and
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inside this little cabinet, big cabinet, I guess it's on a trailer.
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You could have a DJ in there, you know, making announcements, playing
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music off these big, fake looking speakers, which only hell housed maybe one
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speaker in each cabinet, but they were huge. But our what we called
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Marty equipment, our radio remote equipment, was attached to that boombox so you
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could drive part of town and broadcast live. When my daughter Scarlett was born,
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uh I remember we were at the hospital when the water broke, or
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at the radio station when the water broke. Uh Gloria was with me,
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so I said I said, we're going to the hospital, and so we
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left. And it was funny because about three hours later I got it.
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I got a note that somebody was waiting for me outside, and I go
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outside. The boombox was there, broadcasting live from my daughter's birth. But
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good old Monty. At one point, I never forget. He forgot to
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lower the radio mask because these things weld go up like, you know,
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ten feet twenty feet in the air, maybe even a little higher on the
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radio trucks, only about ten or fifteen feet the live trucks, they go
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anywhere from twenty five to forty feet. Yeah, well, he forgot to
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lower it and took it under, took it under something, and we basically
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lost it. I'm gonna find some pictures because I have some pictures of somebody
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crunched through a church overhang. Oh was it you? I'm going to show
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you. No, it was not me. We'll put it on our blog.
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All right. We have a couple of questions for this week, and
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we like to kick off the show with questions. If you ever have a
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question for us when it comes to tech, maybe something new in tech,
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maybe something coming up, you can feel free to drop us an email tech
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guys at tech talk radio dot com. You can also call and leave a
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message five two zero seven seven seven ninety five eighty And here's one from Jennifer
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in Tucson and it's slick. I know you use this, so this could
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be this would be a good one for you. Her question is I've heard
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people using what's app and I've thought of doing that. But is it just
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another way for big social just be Facebook to have my data or does it
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really have a benefit to use WhatsApp since I have a phone that techtsky got
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a lot to say about this, but we don't have tom, so let
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me hit the highlights and maybe the headlines. Okay, all right, So
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I use WhatsApp. There is there is there's one application called WhatsApp in the
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service, and there's another application called what's app ro or what's app Business.
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Okay, really, same company, same service. The apps do a little
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bit, two different things. So if you thinking about using what's app for
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business, I'm going to ask you to look into that. If you just
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think about using WhatsApp in general, just used the general WhatsApp. Now I
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got into whats app, I stayed away from it for a long time,
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because there were other services at the time that we were satisfying me until I
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hit a sixty second limit. And I don't remember which app it was,
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it was probably Facebook Messenger first where I needed the message to be longer than
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sixty min I kept rushing to get to it. Okay, you gotta go
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by yeah, yeah. So WhatsApp was the first one that I was aware
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of that was widely available that will let you go past a minute. So
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I started using app. And that's why I started using WhatsApp. Now the
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other there, other messaging applications have reached there there there now they'll let you
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go past a minute stuff. But also, as I remember, before Facebook
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Messenger, What's app encrypted messages first before Facebook Messenger, as I remember,
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right, Uh, that's not the reason I went to What's app, but
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it was like an added added benefit. Well all right for Jennifer though,
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what like, what is the purpose of WhatsApp communication? Voice messages, video
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messages, text messages, voice calls, video calls, And I use it
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for all of that for different for different solif they use personal the WhatsApp business,
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WhatsApp pro actually used with TPD to some police department. I am in
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on one of their communication groups, right right, so they can send you
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on that. Now, do you have to pay for WhatsApp the Pro?
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I'm sure you do. No, okay, no. And I have two
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different telephone numbers, and I was trying to explain this without losing andy a
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little early because I've got multiple telephone numbers all over the place. So I
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took my personal telephon number and associated it with what's app. All right,
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I have a business telephone number which I associated with what's App Pro, what'sapp
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Business. So I use, you know, to try to keep the business
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number with the business service, if you will, and then the personal with
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the with the standard service. You So what you need to use WhatsApp either
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way? You need a telephone number because they're gonna ask you, you know,
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the associated telephe number with your account bad h. Then they're gonna send
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you probably a text message of a voice message to validate that. So you
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will need a telephone number. Now, could you, in essence then use
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a Google Voice number. I did. Both of them are Google Voice all
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right, okay, yep, So as long as you can get it and
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Google Voice numbers. If you don't have Google Voice, I recommend that greatly.
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That's it. And that's one of those ones you can give to uh,
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you know, give to marketers or if you why would you give it
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to a marketer? Yeah, go ahead and call it. Yeah, but
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you know what I mean, just so you don't give it, give it
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or you give it just to your close personal friends. Yeah. Yeah.
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And I've gotten to the point where i just stay on Google Voice numbers because
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I've changed phones and numbers so often. I'm just like enough of this,
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you know. That's why I got the two different numbers right. One thing
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I will say about WhatsApp that I do like is you can text yourself,
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so yeah, you get the reminders. Yeah, I saw that. So
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you know if you take a picture and you say, oh I love this,
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but I'm gonna just send it to myself or make a reminder to yourself.
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Yes, your phones could do that with the many apps that are on
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there. But if you keep it within what's happened now. The thing is
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it is owned by Facebook, made it right. The thing is are you
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going to get spam on this? Can you get spam? Do you get
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ads on WhatsApp? I have had some attempts, some there have been some
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attempts to reach out to my number and you know, but it's not.
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It's it's very rare, very rare, and usually I just if it's you
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know, they haven't. They only tried it once, maybe twice, and
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I just ignored them and they went away. Right now, I'll tell you
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it is a good relationship builder. Uh, this is one of the scenarios
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I've heard. WhatsApp is good. And if your husband is an Android user
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and you are an iPhone user, you know, you send a message.
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When you're an iPhone user, you send a message. You like to be
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told that they've received your message and read it and hopefully they will answer you.
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But you lose that when you're sending a message back and forth from iPhone
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to Android. At least that's what I believe with what's app. If you
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use that number instead, or you use the app, you'll then see that
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that person has read the message and either chose to ignore you, or they
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hopefully responded within a reasonable amount of time. So it could be so.
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Yeah, what Andy's describing is actually something at practice now, which is if
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I get a message from somebody and I know they're going to want an immediate
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response, I don't look at the message. Yeah, and it's up to
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you to tie your number into it, you know again, Well, like
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you said, you have to, but it's up to you how you want
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to use it. A free app, you know, why not? I
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don't know, Sean, do you have any thoughts on WhatsApp. I have
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used it to talk. It's very popular in Europe and have some family in
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Germany, right and it's the easiest way for us to chat back for us,
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So I have a WhatsApp just to I mean maybe I use it twice
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a year just to say Happy New Year to my family in Germany or keep
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in contact with a couple of people that I've met that are overseas. That
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it's just it's easier. It's end to end user encryption, it's easy,
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and it's just you know, there are other ones out there, but they're
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probably not as secure or safe. Well, I know you could back up
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your and they're doing something with that right now where you can back up your
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your chats. So if you have text a lot of texts, we have
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a family chat, if you want to back that up you can, So
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that makes it kind of nice. And it backs it up to Google Drive.
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So in the entire just to segue out of WhatsApp, just for a
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quick second, I have seen my iCloud to save all of my messages since
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I've owned an iPhone, right yep, I got thirty four gigs of messages.
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Oh wow wow. So now it just saves them just like you do
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an itube, you know, like a backup, and they're there, so
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it just backs them up. So like I could, I could literally sit
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here and scroll for an hour between me and Klein all the way back to
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when we reconnected in twenty thirteen. I wish I would you know you ever
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done that? Where you have? There is like I have like clients that
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I keep their text messages and maybe I'll have Okay, this was your password
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back then, or this is this, this is that and you accidentally deleteded.
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You just go yeah, clear that, clear that clear, and you've
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cleared it, and then that's it. It's gone. You know. I
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do a search on that and Google Voice all the time, like try to
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find something and it's there and you find it. Yeah, all right.
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We had another one from Sureley. Let's see if we can get to this
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one really quick. Surelyy's here in green Valley. It's a I've been appointed
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a volunteer position. We have the best volunteers in Green Valley. But it
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will require me to use my computer. I don't have office, but I
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want to keep a track of notes and numbers. Do I need to spend
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the money on office? Oh well, she's doing this on her computer,
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notes and numbers, so keep track of this stuff to Google Docs. Google.
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Yeah, I was going to default to Google Drive and Google keep Yeah.
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Right, you could say, you could say, yeah, get open
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office, right or something like that, a word suite that is free,
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open source. Right. But then what if she volunteers at a different location
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but doesn't have her computer. Yeah, but there's lives that she can logo
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docs. You can just log in with your Google count and we share our
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notes for this show on a Google Doc exactly, and all of us can
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contribute and we can see what other people are editing. We exclusively use Google
23:41
the Google Suite at Notre Dame, and so I'm very familiar with that.
23:45
But I would highly recommend, and it's free to pay for it unless you
23:48
need way more stories than what you're ever gonna use. I think a lot
23:52
of people they get on maybe the Google browser and then that's all they do.
23:56
They don't know that there is you know, Gmail, there's photos,
24:00
Google Photos, there's Google Google Docs. As you said, you know Google
24:04
Drive. You want to share files, it's a great way to do it.
24:07
My kids have been sharing photos that they have when they were kids,
24:11
you know, and I'm putting those into there as well. Oh here did
24:15
you have this one? So that's a that's an actually great idea. So
24:19
Google, and you could do it just with your Google account, yeah,
24:22
or if you don't have one, just create one. It's super easy.
24:25
Yeah, right, all right, and Google you I mean, it's just
24:26
it's it's user intuitive. You can download the apps on your phone. So
24:30
if you like, if if you're out and about and you're like, oh,
24:33
I need to add a note to that sheet. Google Sheets at it,
24:36
Google Docs at it. It's all synced up, ready to go.
24:38
Perfect. All right, We're going to take a quick break. We come
24:41
back. What was ranked as the best game of the year by the folks
24:45
over at Steam. A lot of people like that. And there's a new
24:48
app that is available now not only for your Android, by your iOS devices.
24:52
You might want to take a look at. We'll do that when we
24:56
come back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda,
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Weird Dan, I'm Slick. Check out our website. It is tech
25:02
talk radio dot com. Now back to tech talk Radio. If any of
25:10
you used Microsoft co Pilot, which uh I don't even know what that is,
25:15
so it used to be bing chat. So if you open up,
25:17
uh so now he is actually is you are an Apple guy? We could
25:27
do a thirty minute segment between him and me and me and Sean right now,
25:32
yeah, one day about Apple, not because because I have Apple experience,
25:37
but now Sean, I don't want to get I don't want give it
25:41
all away, but I got a lot more Apple experience. What it is
25:44
is bing Chat has been renamed Microsoft Copilot, and last week they made it
25:48
available the app for Android devices and now it's available for iOS devices. Microsoft
25:53
wants to get Copilot in front of everybody. Basically what it is, if
25:57
you can imagine, what is going to be the big apps for twenty twenty
26:00
four anything that uses AI. Anything that uses AI. I got to say,
26:06
looking on social media, I'm seeing so many people using the the photos,
26:11
the AI photos, you know, where they create a photo based on
26:15
something and it's like, okay, okay, it's getting old pretty quick.
26:18
But if you already have the chat GPT app, basically it's the under you
26:22
know, the underbelly of it. It's similar to that. However, Copilot
26:26
actually uses chat GPT four without having to pay the subscription fee for it,
26:30
so you know, it's basically you could chat with it. You could talk
26:33
with it this AI and it'll give you the answers that you might need.
26:37
And that's you know, a lot of people are happy about that. I
26:40
love your response, though, Sean Big Chat. Yeah no, I mean,
26:45
yeah I did. I didn't even know it had been rebranded as Copilot,
26:48
and I know that everybody's trying to get into the whole AI thing,
26:52
and there's that whole chat GPT or whatever the Microsoft was going to buy them,
26:57
and then all that create chaos, and it's just it's too much for
27:02
me to hate. Like, I just don't want to pay attention to that
27:03
stuff. I know it's going to be important, and I know it's going
27:04
to be shape shape the future, shape my job and all stuff, but
27:08
it's just too much right now. Man. There were there were stories this
27:11
past six six or seven months about AI, and I'm not sure if you
27:18
know, if we're talking about co pilot or chat GPT or one of the
27:22
other many AIS that are available out there, And there are some choices that
27:26
was actually not giving people the responses that they needed by actually telling them do
27:32
the research. It was telling them to do the research rather than please write
27:37
me a paper on mass physics or write me a paper on how to make
27:42
you know potatoes. Chat GPT works pretty good when you take what you've written
27:47
and you put it into it, say can you rewrite this? Can you
27:48
reword this? And honestly, you could kind of spot when chat GPT does
27:55
some of this stuff because it uses words that nobody uses to describe something.
28:00
We've talked about this before it's there. They're gonna have to come up with
28:03
a term for it. And it can't be uncanny valid because you're not seeing
28:07
it. Yeah, yeah, there's there's there is an uncanny Valley like term
28:12
for reading something you know as AI generated right exactly because you read it to
28:18
go that just seems off. But you know, so reading it, the
28:22
cadence is off, the inflection is off. You're just like, this is
28:25
not written by a human but you can take it though. You can actually
28:27
take what Chad GPT spits out or any of the others, and you can
28:33
reword it. You can work a little on it. I thought that's what
28:36
the idea was, not that it was going to do all the work for
28:40
you. It was gonna do human race is lazy. We are going to
28:45
if I can push a button to do my job, yep, nine out
28:49
of ten times, I'm going to push the button to do my job,
28:52
Yeah done. Everybody else is gonna do it ten out of ten times.
28:55
That's the big worry for educators too, you know, is that that they're
28:56
gonna, you know, have assignments. Are the kid's gonna learn from those
29:00
assignments or is it going to be like having cliff notes all the time with
29:04
them? But they're like, you're you read all these other news, these
29:07
articles and stories about how there's all these fact checkers for AI and you know,
29:14
a kid could write their own and the the the fact checker may push
29:18
it back as a false positive, and then now this kid has to battle
29:22
with his teacher because you're lying. You used a I right, and no
29:26
I didn't, Yes you did. Because it proves there's this whole. It's
29:29
like it's just so stress, Like I would not want to be a student
29:33
today because there's so much stress to have this example. Well yeah, but
29:38
it's like there's so much stress to have all of this technology and all this
29:41
stuff at your fingers, like you have to know everything. Well, no,
29:45
you just defend your paper, you know, you defend your writing.
29:48
Yeah, but uh, but again, are you learning if you haven't written
29:53
it? You know? Uh, that's the thing, you know. Whereas
29:56
if you copy Johnny's paper or Little Sues paper, you copied it and there's
30:02
gonna be proof. Or if you copy your all the older brothers that graduated
30:06
a couple of years before, but which with AI, chat, GPT,
30:10
whatnot. It's not gonna be the same every time. It's not gonna use
30:12
the same wording. I could take a paragraph, pop it into CHAT GPT,
30:18
say please rewrite this. I could take the same paragraph, pop it
30:21
in, say please rewrite this again, and it's gonna come out differently.
30:25
You know, it's gonna hit on different points in different you know, different
30:27
features. But you have to prove it. You have to prove it otherwise
30:33
it's gonna again, it's gonna be uncanny. It's gonna be not realistic,
30:37
and the reader is gonna get fatigued because yeah, no, I can't,
30:41
you can't it. It doesn't hold the same as when somebody actually writes it.
30:47
This surrounds me of being in college when he had four hun and fifty
30:49
students, like they all turned in papers and oh yeah, it's just a
30:53
you know, just pick one. Let me see if this one, Let
30:56
me see if this one's gonna be all right? Can you imagine the birth
31:00
of the Internet in school, like Sean, I think you still. I
31:03
mean, so like the birth of the Internet, it existed before I was
31:10
in school. The Internet, it took hold while I was in middle school,
31:18
right, So in middle school, sixth seventh, it's sixth seventh,
31:22
eighth, ninth grade, right, everybody wanted to play on the internet.
31:27
You know. We had we had some PCs. We had some of the
31:32
fruit Max, the colored ones, remember those. And it was interesting to
31:37
everyone because it was entertaining. It was fun to go on and see what
31:42
you can find on the internet. It was fun to share things with your
31:48
friends on the internet if you could. It was fun to sit in chat
31:52
rooms and chat with your friends on the Internet late at night until somebody picked
31:55
up the phone and kicked you off the internet. Right I was. My
32:02
knowledge of the Internet was shaped by the Internet. Right. I was part
32:07
of the If you go back to my early years, it barely existed,
32:10
right, you had everybody was trying to live wire and Napster and lime wire
32:16
and Kazah and whatever the barely one was, right, All these things existed
32:22
For me. I was the target audience for a lot of this stuff.
32:25
Hey, go download the popular songs. Here's four trojan horses to go with
32:29
it. Who remembers Michael Angelo? Yes, so the Internet is so ingrained
32:43
in me. But I also grew up with not good internet. So it
32:50
was a lot of me going to the library after school to do homework,
32:52
to research. It was a lot of me spending extra time in the computer
32:55
lab at school because we had a T one connection. Cool, And not
33:02
until I got into college did I have good, reliable internet. Yeah.
33:08
I remember when I first started playing game more games online. Right now.
33:13
I was able to play some games on my forty four kilo bit connection,
33:17
but it was Diablo too, yeah, or it was Elder Scrolls online,
33:23
and I was lucky if it worked you couldn't even afford to fifty two,
33:28
even though well we had the fifty two k to them, right, but
33:30
we maybe on a good day we got forty eight. Maybe on a good
33:35
day connected at forty eight. Gosh, and you think about how fast we
33:37
moved on. Think about it for communication though, I'm gonna say say this,
33:42
and it probably people are gonna hate me for this. For those that
33:45
wanted to communicate with others. You know, you wrote letters back, you
33:47
know in the old days, then you wrote postcards that you have the Internet,
33:52
but in between, what did you have? You had the CB radio
33:55
ham ra kb Ob eighteen sixty nine. Yep, ham rate, Yeah,
34:00
you had that, all right. I got to ask Balder's Gate three.
34:05
You've played it, Sean, it's awesome. Do you agree it's been named
34:09
Steams Game of the Year for this year by Yes, So yes, I
34:15
agree that it is game of the year because it is a a well fleshed
34:21
out, well made, visually appealing, dramatic, it's just a it's an
34:29
overall great game. Right. It captured my attention, it kept me going.
34:35
There will be people that say there was too much sex in it.
34:37
Yeah, I've heard about them. With screen caps and stuff. People.
34:42
There are romantic interests storylines that happen in in the in the in the game,
34:47
and it's kind of hard to avail kind so there are options. So
34:52
some streamers got booted originally because there was an option to show nudity. Not
34:59
show nudity, wow in a game, Oh my lord. So and the
35:05
graphics are really good, let's just put it that way, all right.
35:08
So there's a great storyline. But some people have said the the the erotic
35:14
portion of the game was a little too much. You can avoid it kind
35:17
of. Some of the storylines intertwine and they have to part, you know,
35:22
they kind of have to intertwine to make this the whole storyline work.
35:25
But overall, the game was great. I put in several hundred hours right
35:30
playing it, and I did I believe. I read an article that said,
35:37
if you want to get all of the content that is in the game,
35:39
all of the storylines, all of the character interactions, somebody said you
35:45
had to play it through, play the game through like nineteen different times to
35:47
get all of the because I like a different every decision you make, every
35:53
character you meet or kill or don't kill, or save or banish whatever.
36:00
But it's a parallel universe, right. That universe now only exists on that
36:05
branch until you make another decision, and then you're off on that bridge.
36:08
And so if you came and you made the different decision, say you didn't
36:13
kill this character and did you save their life, that character could then later
36:16
on come back and act free and say, oh, yeah, my dad's
36:19
the king, you save my life. Right, So there are overarching storylines
36:23
that impact the game much later on, and I think a lot of people
36:29
were surprised by that, like the depth of the game in terms of like
36:32
character development and progression through the game. That it caught a lot of people
36:37
off guard because they were, like, this game is so linear, you're
36:39
but it's not linear. You can there is a storyline, but you can
36:43
branch off and kind of do all these other things, but then you all
36:45
end up back in the same spot at the end. I want to try
36:51
it out. But you know, one of the things that with games these
36:53
days, and I kind of wonder because it's so epic, right, is
36:57
I would love to have a game that I could sit maybe play for half
37:00
an hour, not one that I'm gonna sit to have to play for three
37:05
four hours. Is is this one of those games? Or is this one
37:07
you really got to dedicate time to me. You're not gonna get through the
37:10
character selection screen in a half hour, wow, oh man. You're gonna
37:15
go through. You're gonna build a character, you're gonna figure out what class
37:16
you want to play, you're gonna assign some of your skills, and then
37:20
you're gonna go through the tutorial. And I think the tutorial not the tooryal
37:23
but like the opening narration, you have to play through a specific set of
37:27
scenes. That alone took probably an hour. Oh my gosh. Now it
37:31
said the best game on steam Deck, which you know seam deck is still
37:35
selling. That went to Hogwart's Legacy, and I think you've played that one
37:38
too, right, just watch people play it. I didn't. I did
37:42
not actually play Hogwarts Legacy. I watched people play it. Not my style
37:46
of game. I like fantasy games, but the Hogwarts Legacy game just didn't
37:52
appeal to me. So I didn't play it. But a lot of people
37:54
really enjoyed it. But a lot of people said, yeah, once you
37:58
get through, like the nostalgia and the hype of like you're in Hogwarts you
38:01
get to go to these places, the mechanics and the gameplay felt repetitives.
38:07
Ah, all right, we get fine, it is fun. We got
38:09
to take another break. We come back. CES is next week above him.
38:14
We're not all going to CEES, but the Consumer of Technology Association.
38:16
You're going to join us. We're going to talk about what to expect that
38:20
this year's CEES, some of the different booths there there, the innovation village,
38:24
all of that. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda Weird, and I'm
38:29
slick knowing that those first Fruity Max that Sean was talking about were the first
38:32
Imax YEI young whipper Schnapper. Yeah, well they were, weren't they?
38:38
And now back to tech Talk Radio. We are always excited when another year
38:45
comes around and it's the Consumer Electronics Show. This is a haven for those
38:50
that love technology, not just gadgets, but it's about the technology that surrounds
38:55
all of these gadgets. And CES twenty twenty four is just around the corner,
39:00
which kicks off officially on Tuesday, and we'll run through Friday in Las
39:04
Vegas. More than thirty five hundred companies are going to be a part of
39:07
it, standing by with us on the phone is the director of Research with
39:09
the Consumer Technology Association, Jessica Booth. They produce the Consumer Electronics Show.
39:15
Jessica, it's great to talk to you. Thanks for having me on.
39:17
Andy. Are you excited about another CEES going to be taking place because there's
39:23
so much to see, especially if you love technology. Oh, I am
39:28
thrilled. It is always exciting to head to Las Vegas to see what all
39:32
the companies are bringing together, you know, hearing all the keynotes, seeing
39:37
all the innovation. There is no other experience like going to Vegas and seeing
39:43
everything in real life. Tell us a little bit about the Consumer Technology Association
39:46
that puts on the show. Hard to believe, but it is a big
39:50
anniversary for them for the twenty twenty four show. Yes. So, the
39:53
Consumer Technology Association is an association that really helps support technology. It's helping innovators
40:01
of all sizes grow their business and really supporting technology that is changing people's lives
40:07
for better. It is a big year for us. We are celebrating one
40:10
hundred years as the Consumer Technology Association, the producers of VS. We're really
40:17
excited about twenty twenty four. One hundred years that really tells you how far
40:22
that we have come when it comes to this technology, because you know,
40:27
technology was a little more simple back then when it started out. But they
40:30
saw that there was a need for having a CTA consumer technology association with what
40:37
we were going to be running into, and boy, that was some great
40:39
thinking. And when you look at last year compared to this year, you
40:45
still see so many advancements when it comes to AI, healthcare, transportation,
40:51
even you know, smart home solutions. All of this is going to be
40:54
shown at CES twenty twenty four. I'm wondering, Jessica, like, who
40:59
were some of the keynotes this year. That's always kind of a good indication
41:02
of some of the technology trends that we're seeing. Oh yeah, so the
41:06
keynotes that we're expecting this year, we're having Larel, Walmart, Demens,
41:13
Elevants, Health, eh G, Hondi, Nasdaq Best Buy, Intel,
41:19
Snap. We really are bringing the entire you know, enterprise to the Consumer
41:28
Technology Show. Everybody's coming and we're really showcasing the entire life cycle of the
41:36
technology landscape, if you will. Yeah, you really excited to see all
41:38
of those different players in the market you do have, Yeah, I mean
41:43
you look at a Snap who would have thought, you know, and representing
41:45
I guess the social media aspect of technology, which drives a lot of tech
41:51
too, doesn't it. It does. We recently looked at a study of
41:54
gen Z and you know, we were really kind of looking at their social
41:59
media habits as well as the technology that they're interested in using compared to older
42:04
generational cohorts. And yeah, there's a lot of social media habits among that
42:08
generational cohort. But even myself as an older generational co coort, really interested
42:15
in social media and how we're using it to see what new technology is out
42:21
there. Yeah, so it's really exciting to see Snap at the show as
42:25
well as la'rel. You know, we're really seeing that beauty tech comes of
42:30
the show, which I'm really excited about. Does that mean we might see
42:34
Eva Longoria there, you know, any Chad, you know, I think
42:39
it's always great, would be really exciting. Last year's last year's CES show,
42:45
I remember it was cool because I got any invitation from Paula Abdul to
42:49
go meet her, you know, and I always just thought that was so
42:52
cool because you do get a lot of celebrities, you know, on that
42:54
side that attend, many of the companies will bring them in as spokespeople for
43:00
their product or service. They're always talking about the technology advances for the company
43:04
they're representing. And at that time I think was Paula Abdul had some bluetooth
43:08
glasses sunglasses that were very stylish that they were talking about. It was pretty
43:14
amazing stuff. But you know, in the realm of all the in the
43:16
realm of all the technology that's out there. We look at some of the
43:21
themes for this year's CEES Tech for Good and human Security for all, I
43:24
think we're kind of going on beyond what many of us have thought about when
43:29
it comes to security, you know, our personal devices, passwords, et
43:31
cetera. We're talking about kind of a worldwide venture when it comes to just
43:36
making the world better. Can you kind of tell us what this is all
43:39
about? You know, thinking about Tech for good, I really kind of
43:44
think about sustainability and inclusivity and really kind of looking to that broader space.
43:51
That's how technology is helping make sure that people don't have food. Insecurity,
43:57
it's how people have access to technology, have access to more basically, and
44:06
some of the technologies that I'm really excited about seeing specifically in the sustainability space,
44:10
is you know, alternative energy sources such as jaggery. They're going to
44:15
be displaying a solar Mars Spot, which is a robot with extendable solar panels
44:22
that can power camp sites that serve as emergency power sources. Oh well,
44:28
I kind of mentioned those glasses that you talked about. From the inclusivity standpoint,
44:35
We're going to see Lexotica, which is going to be having a really
44:38
stylish, chic design of a herrible technology of glasses. So again having that
44:45
accessibility for all, which is really exciting as we kind of think about that
44:50
human security for all standpoint, as we kind of look towards the future,
44:54
and I haven't even touched on food tech. Oh my gosh. Food.
44:58
Yeah, food tech, because food tech could be used. The technology can
45:00
be used to help create food sources that can be then applied to those that
45:07
are in countries with food insecurities or where people aren't getting enough food in those
45:13
areas, or even find better in new ways to help produce and manage some
45:17
of this food correct. So we see like there's another phase of like next
45:23
gen food, whether it be like the food prep itself, or just to
45:28
make sure that you know, there's sustainable food waste management. So we see
45:32
that there's innovations in terms of reducing food prep time as well as a sustainable
45:39
technology called mid bar air form or play a really big play in agriculture with
45:46
harsh climate. Oh nice. Well also, let's face it, Jessica,
45:51
one of the things I love about this is when you see all the stuff
45:53
and yes, this innovation, this technology is amazing stuff. But when you
45:59
see this stuff that we may be able to use in our home, that
46:01
we may see on the market, you know, when in the next six
46:04
months to a year that can help us and whether it be in the kitchen,
46:08
whether it be in the garage, whether it be you know, anywhere
46:12
throughout the house. We've even seen technology used that will help build homes and
46:15
no matter how it's being applied, it's going to make life easier, faster,
46:22
fun and in some cases can even send save you some money, absolutely,
46:27
you know, And I think that's going back to the purpose. You
46:30
know, we are looking at the future of technology and what consumers want and
46:35
you know, what is the need out there? And one of those areas
46:38
that I think about is the TV and how the TV, which is a
46:44
perennial favorite at CS. Everybody loves to see the pictures of the large screens
46:49
at TV, but we're really looking to see the TV as it advances to
46:54
like a smart connected media device, really becoming the smart home connection in the
47:00
home where people can do more than just stream entertainment. But it's going to
47:05
connect to it, like you said, the kitchen, the launder room,
47:08
the garage, and it will really enable consumers to be empowered in the center
47:14
of their home, which I think is a really fantastic idea. And think
47:17
about it, how our lives have been changed by this technology. You know,
47:23
we saw the first the videotape, and then Betamax with the Big Battle,
47:29
and then you had DVDs, CDs and then digital digital media just everywhere
47:35
you look around. We've got so many sources for content that you've got now
47:39
companies that are creating their own channels so you can actually log in on the
47:44
web and be able to watch it on your television. So the TV has
47:46
been transformed not only because of its size, but because of its capabilities listening
47:52
to music, getting your news twenty four to seven, having your weather right
47:57
there, all any time you want, so that TV has become like a
48:00
home hub of that. But with that, you also have the Internet advancements,
48:05
whether it be Starlink or any of the others, you have a technology
48:07
that's going to bring all of that into your home. We're going to see
48:12
some companies displayed there, not only there throughout the show floor, but also
48:15
at Eureka Park. I know that we'll be new and upcoming technologies. For
48:21
those that don't know about Eureka Park, can you tell us a little bit
48:22
about that. Yeah, So Eureka Park is our way of kind of bringing
48:28
the startup place together. So we have over a thousand startups coming to the
48:35
show to really show the innovation on the show floor. So it is a
48:40
great way for everybody to kind of see the up and coming technologies or the
48:45
new inventions. So we'll have over a thousand of them this year. So
48:51
really excited to see those new technologies coming to the show at CS twenty twenty
48:57
four. My friends have always talked about the the auto autos. I remember
49:01
the late Jim Barry, you know, a rest in peace, just a
49:05
great guy from CTA that would I remember coming on and talking to me about
49:09
it, and he said, you know, it's funny CS started and then
49:12
a car show broke out. You know, basically you have this big auto
49:15
show because technology is a big part of our cars. Will there be more
49:19
vehicles on display this year? Absolutely, We're really excited to see the future
49:24
of mobility with electric and self driving, and we'll see BMW or Strainings will
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be demonstrating their electric development and accelerating, and there's other technologies and inventors that
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are showcasing their self driving technologies. You know, Jessica, I'm wondering,
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though, with these trends that we're seeing in vehicles, are we going to
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see other forms of transportation also on display? The mobility trends are extending beyond
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the car with advances with the ke bikes and electric motorcycles, in boats and
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even flying cars. So I'm really excited to continue to watch the vehicle also
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the larger mobility trend at the show this year. Wow, I forgot about
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the flying car. They I mean, they had a demonstration last year.
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I can't imagine what they're going to be doing this year. It's going to
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be a blast. If our listeners want to keep on track of what's happening
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at ce S. What should they do? Is there a website? Absolutely
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so everybody should go to cs tech so ce S dot tech t e c
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H to follow along with us and or follow us on social media. So
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we'll be making sure that we keep up with posting what's happening at the show
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for and obviously I think Andy you'll be keeping up with us as well.
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Of course we'll be talking about it. You'll be able to follow some of
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those updates on our blog blog tech talk radio dot com, and of course
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we'll be talking about it as well on the next week show. Jessica,
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thank you so much for coming on Tech Talk Radio. So great stuff and
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looking forward to another CEES for twenty twenty four. It's going to be some
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amazing technology. Thank you, tan By. We'll be back with more of
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tech Talk Radio. And now back to Tech Talk Radio. We decided to
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bring something back to the show that a lot of people like. It's sixty
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second Tech. And what is sixty second Tech? Well, basically, each
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one of us has sixty seconds to talk about a tech story that we found
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kind of interesting for this week, and to kick it off, it's Sean.
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Are you ready Sean, I'm ready. Time for sixty second Tech begins
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now. Slipper zero. It's a penetration testing tool that came out about a
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year ago. It has become insanely popular and because of the Internet, things
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are very easy to get hands on for firmware and visitbch the downside, people
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use it for nefarious reasons, one of them being a Bluetooth overload. What
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do you want to call a DDoS attack? You know on masks like route
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forcing something which using this little device which fits in the palm of your hand,
52:05
you could walk through Times Square wherever running this device and essentially shut down
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any device capable of taking Bluetooth because it just spams Bluetooth notifications to these devices,
52:17
which then forces them to shut off. iPhones will reboot, insulin pumps,
52:22
anything Bluetooth will get shut off or force it to reboot because basically just
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overloads it and then the device does don't have to do so reboots. iOS
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seventeen point two patches that issue out You're done anything? All right, slick?
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Are you ready? I am ready? You're gonna buzz me out?
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Yes? Sixty second Tech begins now. First a rant if you're gonna send
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me an email, Please in the subject line, put the most important thing
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at the front. If there's a date and the time into do date or
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something like that, put it up there. Because if you put it like
52:58
twenty words down and I don't see your email that you sent me back in
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April, and then you wonder why I didn't show up at the meeting,
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that's why. Okay, now here's something I learned about and it kind of
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caught me by as a president. I was like, what really? So
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a lot of Apple Mac people may be aware of this now, but maybe
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not Outlook. Microsoft Outlook is free on the Mac. I actually stumbled across
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this information, so got it, got a Mac, installed it, no
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problem using it. So if you put this all together, the Microsoft tools,
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you get Microsoft Outlook, Microsoft to Do, and Microsoft Teams, and
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all three are free and they're on the Mac. It kind of neat.
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Well, no, I'm not going that far. I'm not going on that
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right now. Did I get a buzz out? Yeah? Okay, right
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out of here you go with mine. Mine is a bit of a rant.
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I'm upset because of the public domain. The public domain, as once
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again has called the life of another character we have loved, and it's only
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being turned into crud. It's being turned into doo doo by those that want
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to take something that we have enjoyed so much at our youth, and now
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we don't have it anymore. We saw it recently this past year with Winnie
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the Pooh. Winnie the Pooh goes into public domain, and what do they
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do. They stick a mask on him and make him a killer in a
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low budget movie that people spent money on, so much so that there's a
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sequel to Winnie the Pooh Winnie the Pooh too. They couldn't even be creative
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with the name. And now Mickey Mouse is now the next victim with the
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Mickey Mouse Trap, a movie that has planned a live action film that as
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soon as it was announced the first day of January, the copyright was going
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away. That was announced. I've just clair byus, not all the Mickey
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Mouse options. It's only the steamboat Willie. Yes, and so the mask
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looks like steamboat Willie. People will do anything. It's the Internet, it
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exists. Please stop watching this stuff seriously, Well, I ain't paying for
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it. Hit up our blog, hit up our website. Slick said he's
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going to be doing some blog stuff this week too. Say I'm sticking.
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I'm making you stick to it. Now, I just noticed that. Yeah,
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I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, and I'm slick. Tech
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