Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Mac & Bone- Chris Childers Interview

Transcript

Mac & Bone- Chris Childers Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: We got to talk college football to a dude that
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: does it year round. It does it very well. Our
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: next guest, he and Rick Neuheisel. What a team they
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: are on full ride on college sports radio. And Chris
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Childers joins us here to preview the season. And I
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe Lane Kiffin will come up. He just
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: interviewed him. Just talk to him. Chris, what's going on, brother?
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: How are you feeling on this fine football Friday, sir?
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: I woke up extra early today just for you because
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not excited and ready to go.
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: So I'm good, man. How are you?
• 0:31
  Speaker 4: We had a, we had a texter.
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: Welcome to you because my brain isn't working. It's like
• 0:38
  Speaker 3: I'm hosting this show, but I'm doing well.
• 0:40
  Speaker 4: We had a texter drinking whiskey at 6am. It's, it's
• 0:43
  Speaker 4: basically like a holiday right now.
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: Right, Chris?
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: It's go time.
• 0:46
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: I've got like eight bottles next to me that are
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: just kind of calling my name. This, uh, This Weller
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: foolproof might sound good around 8 in the morning.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Oh man, a lot of drinks going to be flowing
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: for a lot of fans tomorrow as we get actual
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: real football. Listen, you haven't been bashful about Bill Belichick.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: You certainly haven't been alone, Childers, in your doubts about
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: the whole operation. They have given us all reason to
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: feel like, oh my God, Carolina will be better when
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: they move on from this. When you look at this
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: football team and this matchup against TCU, like, do you
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: look at it and feel like, okay, this game will
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: be competitive? Are you afraid it gets ugly like last year?
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: What do you think about this particular game for the
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: Tar Heels?
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I would love to be able to come
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: on and say, I think they're going to be two
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: touchdowns better and they've really improved.
• 1:46
  Speaker 3: And Billy Edwards is going to swing it around and
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: all this.
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, that's the thing about college football.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I even joked about this with Lane
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: Kiffin yesterday. It's just that like the preseason polls and predictions,
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: we just the rosters are so different. Like Billy Edwards
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: coming in North Carolina is a completely different version of
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: North Carolina football.
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: Then we saw the.
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: Year before TCU, their quarterbacks in Indiana. So it's not
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: like they're the same. They went and got a guy
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: from Harvard of all places to come and fix the
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: offense there. So it's just until you actually see a
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: damn game, it's so hard for us to figure out
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: what's going to happen in the pregame. Now I will
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: say this it's, let the game play out before you
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: get all too excited. Remember the first drive a year ago,
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: when everybody, some of the freezing cold tweets, I'll skip Bayless.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: He was grounded him.
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: Some of the, you go back and look at him.
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're like, he's the greatest thing ever. And
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: this guy is playing chess and The rest of them
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: are playing checkers.
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: And I think they got beat like 42 to seven
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: or something crazy like that.
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: They got their asses whipped. If that happens again, I
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: just think his legacy is in trouble. I really do. Like,
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: I know this guy's got six Super Bowls. I get
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: all of that. But I just think if he loses
• 3:18
  Speaker 3: convincingly with the Lombardi stuff and with, I mean, I
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: don't know if you guys have any idea what's going
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: on with his son. I don't. but I just think
• 3:28
  Speaker 3: it's going.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: To be the culmination of we're a bunch of absolute turds.
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: We could have had Jeff Munkin as our football coach.
• 3:39
  Speaker 3: This could have been a completely different.
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: Looking world right now, but instead we've got this and
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: I'm still really curious to hear if Jordan Hudson will
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: or won't be serving as interim defensive coordinator tomorrow.
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: On the pack front, NC State, the hype seems to
• 3:58
  Speaker 4: have grown throughout the summer. It's a twofold question about them.
• 4:02
  Speaker 4: What do you think about the matchup tomorrow? And just season-long-wise,
• 4:07
  Speaker 4: do you think that this can finally be a team
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: that reaches that 10-win threshold that Dave Dorns never crossed before?
• 4:14
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: I want to be very clear that I have no
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: particular affinity for any of these schools. OK, I am
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: not from Carolina. I have no interest in the state
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: of Carolina personally.
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: So like this is not me giving any any sort
• 4:30
  Speaker 3: of lean.
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: But I love Dave Doran. I love NC State. I
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: think NC State. should be really– and this is me
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: like talking to the Wolfpack fan.
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: I think you should just take a.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: Moment and be really appreciative of who you are and
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: what you have. Doran has been there now for– I
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: want to say this is his 14th year.
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: And you've had consistency. You've had like.
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: Going 7-5, 8-4– If you can get to a nine-win
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: every once in a while, a 10th.
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: Win, that's incredible success at.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: A program that doesn't have the resources that, hell, even
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: the rivals have.
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: In Tobacco Road. They don't have the same sort of expectation.
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: They're always kind.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: Of looked at as, you know, little brother and brother.
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: I think for Doran to have been there as long
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: as he has, to be consistent as he is, this
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: year will be interesting because the fact of the matter
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: is Hollywood Smothers got bought away. I mean, it's not
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: like NC State is one of those true haves that's
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: going to outbid teams for other players. But I think
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: Doran's consistency has been incredible. I think the development of
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: actual players within the program has been great. Now, the
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: question to me is, because I think C.J. Bailey is
• 5:47
  Speaker 2: extremely talented, and Bailey has the potential to maybe be
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: as good as any quarterback in the ACC, including Kevin Jennings,
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: including Darian Mensah.
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: I think he's right there. The question mark.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: Becomes, without Hollywood smothers and... many of your top pass
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: catchers from a year ago, I think the top five
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: or something crazy like that. And you've had to replace
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: that and have an off season to kind of, you know,
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: get a rhythm going there. That's the only question mark
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: for me is, But I think this game tomorrow has
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: playoff implications. I mean, the fact of the matter is
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: Virginia wins the ACC title game against Duke. They're in,
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: and Miami never makes the playoff. I think Notre Dame
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: at that point is probably in. So I get that
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: NC State hasn't won a conference title in, like, you know,
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: 5,000 years, and I get that Virginia.
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: Hasn't done it in 5,001 years. But....
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: Potentially it's time. And I think this game matters a
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: lot tomorrow.
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 6:49
  Speaker 4: Chris, I know you take this as a badge of honor.
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: There's a texter that wants to, I think, fight you
• 6:54
  Speaker 4: at some point. It didn't take long for him to
• 6:56
  Speaker 4: get mad at you. I scrolled up and three texts
• 7:00
  Speaker 4: from this one was a year ago when you were
• 7:02
  Speaker 4: on where he wanted to fight you also in 2025.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 7:05
  Speaker 4: So he only chimes in when you're on the radio.
• 7:08
  Speaker 4: So thank you.
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not very hard to beat up. I'll just
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: let him know. I mean, I'm like 5'8, fat, slow,
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: don't have a lot of muscle. So, like, he could
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: do it. I just don't know if he'd take a
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: lot of pride once he gets it done. But, you know,
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: it's all good.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: Hey, he's got to get through new Heisel to get
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: to you, man.
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: When I said I think Mack Brown's a better coach
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: than Bill Belichick.
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know how many times we've sat
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: here and wondered, what if you gave Mack Brown that
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: NIL money that you then all of a sudden wanted
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: to fine for Belichick? But anyway, we digress. We're talking
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: with Chris Childers. We like Chris Childers, all right? And
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: if all of you do, as long as you listen,
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: as long as you're listening, that's what counts. Probably the
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: same guy that wanted to fight me at a gas
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: station like two weeks ago. That did happen. That did happen.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: Not the fight.
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: Bucky, Billy. Yeah.
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: So you did that interview with Lane Kiffin. Lord knows
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: he has even increased his villain status with this pursuit
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: of these guys in the NFL to bring them back
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: as fifth-year players. Does he deserve, like, is what he
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: is doing there, and he's not the only one. There
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: are other schools taking fifth-year guys in, and we don't
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: care near as much or pay attention to it. It'll
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: be obviously decided in the courts. Does he deserve to
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: have his villain status changed? enhanced over this? Or is
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: he just doing what, you know, the court said he
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: could do?
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: I believe he's just doing what the court said that
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: he could do. And they are double and tripling down
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: because it's him. So here's what I think happened. The
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: Big Ten forced the hand when they decided they were
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: going to make this rule.
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: The SEC sent their little strongly worded letter the day before.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: And Kiffin you know, he has three players on his
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: roster that played for NFL teams, but here's the thing.
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think this is really villain status stuff. I
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: think all he did was, Hey, there's a court that
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: said that these kids are eligible.
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: If I don't recruit them, others will.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: And I won and I got them. And now I'm
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: the villain because I'm the one who won the street
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: stakes there. I, as much as I don't like lane
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: and I think lane is a chotch and, and, I
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: think he's extremely rough around the edges. I don't think
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: he's wrong here. I think he actually, I don't have
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: an issue with the pro players coming back and playing
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: because it's not really what everybody's making it out to be.
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: These kids never got that option.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: They never had the option of getting the fifth year
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: and everybody else is getting a fifth year. So in
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: our legal system, it's probably pretty cut and dry to
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: a judge that, Hey, if everybody else is getting this
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: ability and you're the only one getting singled out.
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: Then you get the year.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: And so that's all this is.
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, really, all this is, is, yeah.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: The kid signed into training camp because he didn't have
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: the ability to go to college still. But then that changed,
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: and now he wants to change his mind too. I mean,
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Kiffin even brought this up yesterday with me. This is
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: going on in softball. There's a girl that signed a
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: pro contract over the summer because she didn't think there
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: was going to.
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: Be the option to come back. Now there is, and
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: she wants to come back.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. It is far from the only sport
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: it's happening in. And the SEC has already been dealt
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: a blow down there in that Dallas court. There's three
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: guys in NFL camps that have won their suit against
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: the SEC and the NCAA for this rule change. So
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you on where this is going
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: to go legally. Not that I'm a legal expert, but
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like we all have like half law degrees
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: now after all this crap.
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: We've had to try to.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta, it's weird how many courtroom decisions
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: I've read in the.
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: Last couple of years. It's weird.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: Crazy. All right, brother. Great job. We appreciate you joining
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: us early on a Friday. Keep up the good work
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: on full ride and all that you do, man. Thanks
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: for coming on.
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: Thanks guys. Have a good week.
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: Zero.