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AEW Hot Topics | The Path to Redemption · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine.
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  Speaker 2: Ignition Ship five four three two one zero All engine running.
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  Speaker 3: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 3: Ignition with the AEW fan Hub podcast team. This is Kelson.
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  Speaker 3: You can see on the screen if you're watching us
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  Speaker 3: live on YouTube that we've got some interesting topics to
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  Speaker 3: talk about tonight. I'm here tonight with MK, Chris and Bell.
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  Speaker 3: How you guys doing tonight?
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  Speaker 4: I'm good?
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  Speaker 5: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Kelson?
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  Speaker 3: But you know, still got getting over cold. But it
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  Speaker 3: is what it is, nothing worse than a summer cold.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those are always awful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did want to bring up a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me if I clear my throat a few times.
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow night during aaw Dynamite, we will be doing a
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  Speaker 3: be part of the community. Meet new friends. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we've got people that have met during the live chats
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  Speaker 3: and they have actually become real friends in real life
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  Speaker 3: because they find that they're from the same town. They
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  Speaker 3: attend shows together and whatnot. Speaking of shows coming up
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  Speaker 3: in November, AW is announced November fourteenth, which is a Saturday,
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  Speaker 3: for a pay per view, Full Gear is coming up
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  Speaker 3: in Phoenix, Arizona. That's gonna be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: So I guess the only one that they haven't announced yet, Well,
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  Speaker 3: they haven't announced wrestled Dream yet, have they?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember seeing.
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  Speaker 3: Anything, and I haven't haven't seen anything for a World's End,
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  Speaker 3: But I think AW has already announced quite a few
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  Speaker 3: of these these things. Also tomorrow night after AW Dynamite,
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  Speaker 3: the Everything Pro Wrestling podcast that's at EPW show on
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  Speaker 3: on YouTube. A lot of fun. They're doing their AW
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  Speaker 3: Dynamite Dynamite Dynamite. I guess yeah, if you want to mate,
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  Speaker 3: you know what happened to your you know your husband
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  Speaker 3: all you know your wife? You know I dynamated her
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  Speaker 3: and she didn't make it. But on Dynamite, Conrad Cushman,
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  Speaker 3: Derek Shelton, really fun show at EPW show. Let's get
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  Speaker 3: on with our show because we do have a lot
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  Speaker 3: to talk about. The first thing I want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about up is Kenny Omega.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: There's a couple questions specifically, I want to ask everybody,
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  Speaker 3: And the first part of this question is do you
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  Speaker 3: think it was the right choice to have Kenny Omega
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  Speaker 3: win the AW World Championship then? And the second part
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  Speaker 3: is if he does defend the title at Redemption, who
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  Speaker 3: should the challenger be? What do you guys think?
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  Speaker 4: Should I start?
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  Speaker 3: Apparently nobody has anything to say, Okay, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: I'll start.
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  Speaker 2: Go.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, at first I was against it, but then
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  Speaker 6: I heard maybe MJF is more hurt than he let on,
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  Speaker 6: So I'm okay with it and ask for who I
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  Speaker 6: want to see him against him? You know, I think
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  Speaker 6: it would be neat to let speedball and Omega had
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  Speaker 6: the hometown match together.
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  Speaker 3: That just thought.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it'll happen, but it'll be neat.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to break into Hey, it's Jocelyn. Jocelyn says,
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  Speaker 3: evening everyone, Good evening, Jocelyn Glick. Glad to have you here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm interested to hear what your opinion is on Kenny Omega.
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  Speaker 3: Who else wants to go on this? By the way,
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  Speaker 3: before we go on to anybody else. Mkay. You said
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  Speaker 3: initially you were against it. Why were you against it?
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  Speaker 6: I just I'm more of a aw needs younger stars
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  Speaker 6: as champions and not repeating.
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  Speaker 3: Championships. I like to see youth.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, Kenny versus Ospray seems to be pretty popular,
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  Speaker 6: So get the people what they want.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough? Who else wants to go on this?
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of torn on this. On one hand, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love Kenny Omega. He incredible, and the if if
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  Speaker 1: it is Omega Osprey all in, I know those who
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  Speaker 1: are going to to go balls to the wall insane
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  Speaker 1: that you know, match of the Year contender matches, They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go for Match of the century because that's just
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  Speaker 1: how those two guys operate. On the other hand, it
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  Speaker 1: was I don't remember how many weeks ago, but Barry
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  Speaker 1: made a good point about a big bad But when
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  Speaker 1: Hayman won it all in last year, he had a
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  Speaker 1: big bad to defeat, and that's what the crowd latched
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  Speaker 1: on to, Like he was already our guy, but him
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  Speaker 1: beating Moxley, you know, rescuing the title, that was a
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  Speaker 1: huge deal. Like that was part of why it was
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  Speaker 1: so great, Osprey doesn't have that. It could have been MJF. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: that's where I think the Darby rain and Skinny win
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  Speaker 1: kind of hurt, because if JF had that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: didn't Iff held the title instead of Dark, he would
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  Speaker 1: have had a decent, decently long rain, you know, could
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  Speaker 1: do all his douchebags heel stuff and really have a
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  Speaker 1: rain of terror. But we don't have that, so we're
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  Speaker 1: getting another We're likely getting another base based match and
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  Speaker 1: another very short, relatively short title rain. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I love the idea of Omega ver soft break, but
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  Speaker 1: I wish Okay, I also don't like to face tape.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I get it. Okay, Well, we have a huge
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  Speaker 3: Teeddy Omega fan in our mits. That's a Valerie. Uh
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  Speaker 3: all right, I'm sure you're very much for this, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm interested to hear what you have to say.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still mad that Darby got the title before him.
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  Speaker 4: It should have been Kenny a Dynasty in my opinion,
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  Speaker 4: because I would have won that type of match that
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  Speaker 4: Kenny did last week with MJF at Dynasty. But the
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  Speaker 4: match at Dynasty.
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  Speaker 3: Was was great.
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  Speaker 4: But I loved the match that they had last week.
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  Speaker 4: Even better, concerning all In, I don't see a face
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  Speaker 4: to face between him and Osprey. I see a heel
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  Speaker 4: ospray and a face Kenny. Because Kenny doesn't like the
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  Speaker 4: fact that Osprey has joined the Death Writers.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't like to.
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  Speaker 3: Let me yeah, let me uh and fight boy Rex.
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  Speaker 3: What's upsickos? He says in the chat, how you doing, buddy?
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question. You think that
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  Speaker 3: Osprey is going to be a heel? Come all In?
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't that wouldn't that kind of well not kind of
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't absolutely make it anti climactic having a heel Osprey
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  Speaker 3: win it all In in front of his hometown crowd
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion, and I don't know how the others
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  Speaker 3: feel about it. In my opinion, Osprey has got to
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  Speaker 3: be the biggest babyface in the world, and if anything,
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  Speaker 3: Kenny Omega has to be the heal here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't I don't see it. I don't
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  Speaker 4: see I don't see Kenny being a being a heel
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  Speaker 4: at all in. I see him as the babyface and
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  Speaker 4: Osprey being being the heel.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm I'm seeing that.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm completely out of work here.
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  Speaker 4: But that's what I'm seeing.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing that they.
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  Speaker 4: Don't agree on is that Osprey has joined the Death
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  Speaker 4: Riders and Kenny doesn't like it. He he wants wants
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  Speaker 4: what's best for for Will, and I get it. But
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna clash about being being with Osprey being with
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  Speaker 4: the death Riders.
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  Speaker 3: Right well, you know, Fightful earlier today made a report
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  Speaker 3: that Kevin Knight has been planned to do some big
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  Speaker 3: stuff in a w and it may include, I want
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  Speaker 3: to stress, may include Kenny Kevin Knight facing uh Kenny
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  Speaker 3: Omega at Redemption. How do you guys feel about that?
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  Speaker 4: Woo? Interesting?
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  Speaker 2: Interesting?
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine with it as a basically stopcat challenge here
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  Speaker 1: because I I highly doubt am less it is in
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  Speaker 1: jay that whoever Katie faces that Redemption is going to
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  Speaker 1: win the title.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the title is saying with Kenny I Redemption, he said,
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  Speaker 4: if he defends it.
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  Speaker 3: See and I'm looking at this and you know, MKA
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  Speaker 3: said that he initially didn't like Kenny Omega winning the title,
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  Speaker 3: and he's kind of changed his mind. I still don't
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  Speaker 3: like Kenny Omega winning the title. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's a bad, bad choice nothing against Kenny Omega. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just looking at it from a continuity, I guess kind
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  Speaker 3: of standpoint. Look, and I think I mentioned this before.
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  Speaker 3: I think AW has had far too many, especially in
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  Speaker 3: the World Championship picture, far too many transitional champions. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we've had Samoa Joe, We've had Darby Allen, We've had
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  Speaker 3: MJF after he defeated Darby Allen. And now we've got
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  Speaker 3: Kenny Omega, who everyone thinks is going to lose it
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  Speaker 3: all in, which is next month, you know, So four
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  Speaker 3: transitional champions in a year, which means we're also going
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  Speaker 3: to have transitional challengers. Kevin Knight would be a transition challenger.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of the guys that you know Darby Allen faced.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly believe that absolutely none of them were elevated
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  Speaker 3: by losing to Darby Allen. They were all knocked down
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  Speaker 3: a bit by the lease of the Darby Allen. You
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  Speaker 3: cannot have banger matches in a World Championship scene just
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  Speaker 3: for the sake and having banger matches, Yes, the matches
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  Speaker 3: were good, but it doesn't matter if it's the World Championship.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys understand what I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: to say here. You know, you know, the World Championship
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  Speaker 3: becomes secondary. I just.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of get what you're saying there, And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like Darby's reign, honestly, it was fun at first, but
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  Speaker 1: then it's like, Okay, it's we know it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be an awesome match. I'm gonna enjoy watching the match,
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  Speaker 1: but I know what's gonna happen exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact that he wrestled every freaking show, not
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  Speaker 3: just on Dynamite but also on Collision. You know what,
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  Speaker 3: during Darby's title reign, which lasted I believe five weeks,
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  Speaker 3: his Bell de Belle match time was over one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and twenty minutes. I believe that's two hours. That's a
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  Speaker 3: whole show dedicated to Darby Allen. In meaningless matches, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: the matches were good, they were banger matches, but they
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  Speaker 3: were absolutely meaningless. We knew the get go what was
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  Speaker 3: going to happen. Predictability is not always a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's often a bad thing. That Darby Allen thing was bad.
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  Speaker 3: The Kenny Omega thing. We know that Kenny's gonna lose
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  Speaker 3: barring some kind of really big swerve, we know that
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna lose it all in, so he's a transitional champion.
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  Speaker 3: We know that, propad. I agree with what Val said.
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  Speaker 3: The redemption. Whoever Kenny Omega faces is not going to
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  Speaker 3: win it redemption, even though I do believe they should win,
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  Speaker 3: because I have no interest in seeing Kenny Omega will Osprey.
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  Speaker 1: At a definitely differ. I know that match will be.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like I said, those two are going to
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  Speaker 1: go all out and try to have a match of
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  Speaker 1: the century.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you, but again, I beg your match
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  Speaker 3: for no reason, and there is no reason for it.
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  Speaker 4: I've been saying that for at least the beginning of
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  Speaker 4: the year on ever since the ever since January fourth,
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  Speaker 4: when they did their first match at Russell Kingdom. I
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  Speaker 4: was hoping to see part three at all in, and
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  Speaker 4: we're getting close to seeing it.
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  Speaker 3: No, let me put it this way, Chris. Let me
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  Speaker 3: put it this way, Chris, before you interrupt. Okay, when
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  Speaker 3: we get which I do believe we will get all in,
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  Speaker 3: Kenny Omega versus Will Ospray, I would have much rather
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  Speaker 3: seen that just be a match a who's better, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the generational match, the younger generation against the I guess
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  Speaker 3: you could say older generation having it for the world title,
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  Speaker 3: where we know that will Osprey is going to win,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because he will Ospray can't lose this match
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  Speaker 3: and not in Wembley. He just can't, you know. So
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  Speaker 3: that's that's my point. You know, I'd be much more
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  Speaker 3: interested in seeing a non title match between the two.
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  Speaker 1: Well, also, if Omega versus Osprey was always the play
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  Speaker 1: in which it feels like it is, because Tony k
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  Speaker 1: plans well in advance, they should have put the title
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  Speaker 1: on Kenny at Dynasty and let him have a solid
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  Speaker 1: run before losing it Pray at all women.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think let me ask you a question, though,
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  Speaker 3: do you think that the reason that they didn't put
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  Speaker 3: the title on Kenny at Dynasties because of his physical limitations,
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  Speaker 3: that they were afraid that he would simply not be
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  Speaker 3: able to go until all in with the matches.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think I do. I think they would have easily
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  Speaker 1: been able to do like a you know, a lesser
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  Speaker 1: a lesser version of what Darby did where he where
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  Speaker 1: Omega defends the title like every other week. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think he could have done that. And you could
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  Speaker 1: have especially had him, you know, give like random people matches,
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  Speaker 1: maybe people who weren't getting as much TV time. He
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  Speaker 1: could have been like, you know, okay, I remember being
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  Speaker 1: that young, hungry guy, blah blah blah whatever.
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  Speaker 3: All right, but I think I've had something to say.
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  Speaker 3: So let's go to Mkay.
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  Speaker 6: I just I kind of agree where you say that
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  Speaker 6: they were worried about his health. But he's excuse me.
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  Speaker 6: He says he's one hundred percent, and I get that.
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  Speaker 6: But going back to Kevin Knight, I don't think he's
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  Speaker 6: ready to be on a level and go Mike for
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  Speaker 6: Mike and stuff with h Kenny Omeghan, He's just not there.
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  Speaker 6: He's a great wrestler, but his Mike skills are terrible.
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  Speaker 6: As a reason they have him with Don Kallis and
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  Speaker 6: and if Kenny Omeghan is going to have a decent run,
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  Speaker 6: he needs to have matches against people who row on
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  Speaker 6: his level, not not some people.
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  Speaker 3: Who are just.
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  Speaker 6: Uh lower mid card and titled type people.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, his MIC skills are notwithstanding. I just
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  Speaker 3: don't want to see Kevin. I don't want to see
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  Speaker 3: anybody face Kenny Omega for the World Championship at redemption.
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  Speaker 3: To be bluntly honestly, I'd rather see Kenny Omega in
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  Speaker 3: a tag match with somebody against members of the Don
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  Speaker 3: Kallis family because I do not want to see yet
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  Speaker 3: another transitional challenger we've had. I've already said we've had
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  Speaker 3: many transitional champions in the AW World Title scene. We
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  Speaker 3: can't afford to have more transitional challengers. I mean, Kevin
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  Speaker 3: Knight was one of the people that Darby Allen be
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  Speaker 3: am I right, or is that correct? I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 3: that's correct. I mean, yeah, but what I'm saying is,
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  Speaker 3: you know you can't have these These are future. These
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  Speaker 3: are the future of A. W. Will Osprey is the
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  Speaker 3: future of AW. Kevin Knight, Mike Bailey, these are guys
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  Speaker 3: that I considered the future of AW. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how you guys feel about it, but I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to see them being just I don't know. I'm buried
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  Speaker 3: isn't the word, and I want to use here because
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  Speaker 3: it's not being buried, but being misused and treated is
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  Speaker 3: such that they become transitional losers. Basically. I mean, you've
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  Speaker 3: got to build them up, and just having banger matches
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  Speaker 3: is not the way to do it. You've got to
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  Speaker 3: have a story behind it. You've got to have something
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  Speaker 3: where they earned these chances. And look at Kevin Knight,
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  Speaker 3: He's lost so many times to AW World champions already.
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  Speaker 3: Why is he going to get a World Championship shot
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  Speaker 3: at redemption? Of course that isn't written in stone yet,
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  Speaker 3: but it's been reported that it's a possibility. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just I personally feel like the AEW World Championship
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  Speaker 3: scene pretty much since Darby Allen took it over, has
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  Speaker 3: been poor, has been poor. And I will go on
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  Speaker 3: record and say this, and I've said it before. I
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  Speaker 3: thought Darby Allen's run with the with the World Championship,
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  Speaker 3: though he had banger matches, you knew what was going
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  Speaker 3: to happen. It was preposterous. I thought it was very bad,
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  Speaker 3: very bad. Could not wait for him to lose it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was fun. But by the end there, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, it's time for him to lose. MJ.
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  Speaker 1: I felt back has a nice lung or has an
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  Speaker 1: okay run and faces off pray it all in Like
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  Speaker 1: that's what I've figured was the easiest story to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I would not be I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how you guys feel about it. I'm interested to know,
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  Speaker 3: but I would not be upset if MGF faced Kenny
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  Speaker 3: Omega at Redemption and and just got a nice, good,
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  Speaker 3: clean win.
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  Speaker 1: Off of it, I'd be okay with it. I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: But then again, if that happens, then MGF becomes even
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  Speaker 3: more of a transitional champion. Yeah, you know, but either way,
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  Speaker 3: the way I look at it, and I'm sorry, Bell,
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  Speaker 3: I know you door to guy. I love Kenny Omega too,
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  Speaker 3: but in no way, shape or form do I believe
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  Speaker 3: that Kenny Omega should be world champion right now, at
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  Speaker 3: Dynasty or otherwise. I'm sorry he shouldn't be now see opinion.
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  Speaker 4: I respect it, but i I I love your idea
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  Speaker 4: of a tag team at Redemption, though, because I saw
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  Speaker 4: somebody online on my on my Twitter feed saying Kenny
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  Speaker 4: and Hangman versus Style and somebody else from the Don
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  Speaker 4: Kallis family.
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, that that puts two of aw's major championships
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  Speaker 3: in non title matches though. That's that's that's tough.
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  Speaker 4: I even saw a suggestion for a title match between
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  Speaker 4: Kenny and o'connada that one.
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  Speaker 3: With that, but uh yeah, I guess Conda doesn't have
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  Speaker 3: a title right now, does he? Yeah, that's the big thing.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: If Kinda had a title that I would be against.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: It through it. No men's singles title matches. Kenny Hangman
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and Speedball versus Kyle Fletcher, Mark Davis and Kevin Knight.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: H Yeah, well you know what, We're going to talk
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: a little bit about Hangman and Kyle Fletcher actually a
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: little bit later on in the show. So I do
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: want to move on because this is kind of the
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: same way to me, we've got to. By the way,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: if you're watching on YouTube, you're seeing these are the
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: CHIB stickers from shop aw dot com with Tecla, Mercedes
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Bonet and will On night and Go. I thought they
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: were cute if I put them on the on the graphic,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: so you can go and get these and look them
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: up as the CHIV stickers at shopaw dot com. But again,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: this is another interesting thing here where I do have
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: a couple of questions to ask was it the right
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: choice for Willow Nightingale to win the women's Casino Gauntlin match?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: And then secondly, of course that means that Willow's going
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: to be facing Tecla at redemption. Who do you want
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: to see go on to face Mercedes monet it all in.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: That's another one where I'm born because kind of similar
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to you know, Omega ospre face face. If it's Techla
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and Mercedes, we get heal, healed. But I also don't
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: want Willow to win the title and then lose it
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: a month later, because I am I am ninety four
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: point seven percent sure that Mercedes is winning the title
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: With yeah, I want to get back to what I do.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Not believe that Willow should have won the women's Casino Gonzolin.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I thought it was ridiculous, but I understand that she's
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: a big babyface. She gets a huge pop. But sometimes
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: you just again, it goes back to what I was
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: saying with the Kenny Omega and the AW World Championship.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: You got to build new stars. You can't just keep
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: retreating the older ones. Not saying you ignore the older ones.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: And of course Willow is not old, but she's been
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: established as a star. This is the time where you
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: build you need. AW is not doing a good job,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: especially in my opinion, in the women's division, of making
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: new stars. They're keep using the same people over and
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: over again. How did you feel about, first of all,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Willow winning the women's Casio Gauntlin.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised that she was in. And I
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: know I said last week, anybody but my world, right,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: I said that, but I was like Willow. As soon
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: as Willow appear, was like, Okay, she's the one at Redemption,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: She's the one, and I was like, why what they deal?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Right? Valerie Rawlins is in the in the chat and
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: he just said, I don't want to see will versus
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Mercedes again, and we've seen that match plenty already. Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: we have. I agree with Rawlins.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see that either. I want tech
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Loo versus Mercedes at all in Yeah, and.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I just wish that somebody else would have won the
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, Willow versus Tekla is probably the most
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: marque match they could have done, and I understand why
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: they did it, but it's not the most interesting match.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to put it. I wanted to
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: see somebody new.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely get what you're saying. You could have
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: easily because one of two things is happening. We're either
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: getting a transitional champion or we're getting a challenger who
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you know, earns the shot, loses a ridemptu. So I
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: don't want another fricking transitional champion. Like we've seen that
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: a lot in the men's division. I don't want to
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: see it in the women's division as well. But I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: also don't want to see Willow loose in her comeback
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: singles match. So, like you know, someone who I don't
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: know who could have won, But like you said, it
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: could have been someone new, So it could have been
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: an out of the blue challenger, because hey, sometimes people
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: get an opportunity, make the most of it, earn a
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: title shot, you know, and go out there and it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: so close. It's the whole Rocky story. Young up, up
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and comer who nobody expects gets it, takes the champion
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to the limit but just comes up short. You can
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: use that to make a new star they I mean,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: they kind of did that with My Old World.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look the way I looked at it,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: with the women's women's Casino Gauntlet, there is one wrestler
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: who has had some history of really hating Techla Techla
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: hating her, and that's Queen Amanada. I would not have
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: been upset at all of it was Queen Amanada versus
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Techlett redemption, and it would have been something that would
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: have been new and fresh. We've seen, as Rollins had said,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: we've seen Willow and Techla before, and Willow, I mean sorry,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Willow and Mercedes before. We've seen Willow and Techla before.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I just don't think this is a good minute. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: really don't.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Almanada would have been a perfect Helen.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyway, so we're we're getting for better, for worse.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: We're getting Willow versus techletate redemption. Yeah, I mean is
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: this I mean, Techles's been aw Women's World Champion for
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: a while now. She doesn't need Yeah, so she doesn't
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: need to put up be put over. I think that
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Tekla is over and she doesn't need will We don't
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: need Willow Willow Nightingale to put her over.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: So that that that's that storyline is going to be
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: interesting for the next few weeks.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be another one of those. It'll be
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a really good Matt But I don't want either one
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: of them to lose, and I kind of there's a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: lot more interesting stuff they could have gone.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So but the question remains, do you guys think
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: that Willow is going to beat Teckla Redemption.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I'm honestly, I'm fifty to fifty on that light.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I'm scared really could go either way. She absolutely should
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: not win it. I do believe that there is, like
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: you said, Chris, a fifty to fifty chance that she
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: is going to win it. And if Willow wins it, frankly,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: it's gonna pissed me off.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Me too, because the problem that I have, the problem
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: that I have is she was the TPS champion, she
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: decided that she is injured, she relinquished the TBS title.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: She's gone, she.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: Comes back and she's Valerie.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Let me stop you. I don't think she decided that
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: she was injured.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: I misspoke, I miss I'm sorry, But she wasn't a dynasty.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: She was injured. That's why she didn't wrestle.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: She wasn't cleared.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: She wasn't cleared for then. Well, she was clear for
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: the match that she has against Camille. And where is Camille?
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Where is she She's gone. I don't know where she
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: could have been in the Gauntlet. I would have probably
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: see her versus Techla, then Willow versus Techla.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you know what. Here's the thing. Now,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: you said you misspoke, but you kind of rang a
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: little true because I do believe that there's a chance
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: that that injury was a little bit kfab. In other words,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: she may have needed two or three weeks off, but
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: that didn't go into didn't fit into the owen Hart
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Foundation tournament, so they had to have her relinquish the
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: TBS title. But let's look at facts here. The TBS title,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: we got a we got a new TBS champion and
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Akarusheida on July first, a new TBS champion in a
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Karusheeda on July first, July first, Keep that mind, Will
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: and Nightingale won the Women's Casino Gauntlin exactly one week later.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: So why we've had titles in the past where I
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: understand that you had the owen Hart Foundation Tournament, which
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: has nothing to do with the TBS championship, has to
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: do with the Women's World Championship. But here's the thing.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Why have we've had in the past where we've seen
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: aw title belts not defended for two months? What's the
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: big deal with not having the TVs title not defended
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: for five weeks? Yeah? You see what I'm saying, yeah,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: so I think that in that there's a possibility that
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: there was a little bit of k fab added to
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: the injury. I do believe her injury was legit because
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: if you watch back some of her old matches, she
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: was favoring that shoulder for quite a bit of title
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: before the injury was you know, was announced. So you know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: so are we all agreement here to Tekla's not going
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: to lose? Will and Night and Gale atensied, Yeah, she's not.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: She's not. She is not.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: What about you, MK and Chris? Are you in agreement
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: with that as well?
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I think Techlo will probably win, but like I said,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I'm really really unsure on this.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, Flyboy Rex in the chat says,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I think they may change the match at all into
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: a three way or a four way. Let's not forget that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Come all in a certain car. You is saying is
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: going to be available. I'm not saying that. I think
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: she's coming to a w but it's a chance. By
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: the way, Conrad from EPW show UH is in the
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: chat and he says you what he said last week.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: He's the medicipal words. Okay, you there, and what do
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: you think do we think that Techler is going to
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: be will owe itt redemption. I guess he's not there.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: No, I think he's not.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: No peace dropped. He has uh he's had some uh
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: issues with his uh with his setup, I guess is
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: the best way to put it.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: So.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so now we're going to go to all in
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: and from what we have here, we have Tecla versus
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Mercedes Bonett, which I think is the right match, even
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: though it is heel versus heel, they're two different types
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: of heels. Yeah, in my and like and like five
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: boy Rex said, there's nothing saying that we can't add
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: one or possibly even two more people to this match. Uh,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: that would be fun.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: But I would love to see the evolution of the
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: story between Tecla and the Sisters of Sin versus Mercedes
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: and Divine dominion. That one was last week was like whoa,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: I got me excited.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I was looking on on Fitful select
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I was really a post that Seaanrocks Seaanrossat made yesterday,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I think, but it may have been today where he
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: said that he believed that this is just his opinion
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: that Tecla come in the in the coming months. Will
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: become a a baby face. I would think that Techla
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: is a baby face, would be similar to Stone Cold,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Steve Austin is a baby face. He would be a baby.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: She would be a babyface and does a lot of
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: heelish things, but it would be to the enjoyment and
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: approval of the crowd.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Starting to have some people over.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, Valerie, you just talked right over Chris. Sorry, so Chris,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I was gonna actually make the same comparison. Where like
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: technically Mercedes, Techla would be heel healed, but Tecla has
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: almost become anti villain, anti hero, whatever you want to
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: call it, kind of like where she's a heel but
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: she's getting and almost face like reaction, very much like
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you know Stone Cold did or in a in a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: different way. But Eddie Guerrero, you know he used to
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: lie Kat and Steel but people loved it. Like there
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: there's something about Techla that makes you want to hear her,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: like her antics are so ridiculous and over the top.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: It makes her fun and enjoyable to watch.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: But did you say it makes makes you want to
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: fear her? Fear spell it, because what you just said
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: fear f e a r C h E E r
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: oh cheer. I thought you said fear her because what
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: you because what you said fear her? Then you said, uh,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: well you said didn't make any sense. But if it
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: was cheer, I'm misunderstood. So I apologize.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: She's so ridiculous, like you can't help but root for her.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: She's literally a comic book character.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she is, she is, and on commentary last week
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: she was hilarious. I was laughing my ass.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Off the drunken tech. I don't think that Warner Brothers
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Discovery is ever going to let that happen again.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: In the commercial breaks, I was watching on my wut
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: like she was so ridiculous during those Yeah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I was watching it too on my aw and it
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: was it was entertaining to say the least. I mean,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: she had a comment inappropriate ones about everything.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: But her comments.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, did you see me to share Cow's
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: response to that?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, you know, I just god what she
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: called her a? Right?
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: What is?
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: What did tech let's say about me wrestling?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Blow?
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, wrestling Mina Shirka is like wrestling and blocked all.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I just about fell out of my chair because is
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: she wrong? No?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I can't say I've never wrestled.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I have in my dreams that it's.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Like well over here, well dreams is completely.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: But anyway, Mercedes Bonett Tecla all In who wins kind
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: of gotta go there, Mercedes. Well, let's move on because
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: we had a return last week which I didn't see coming.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I really didn't. But it was in Virginia, the return
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: of the Millennial Garden Cowboy who is now shooting blanks
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Hangman and him page and talk about a little bit
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: of an overshare. Did you see what they wrote in
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: the bottom third when Hangman came out recently had a asectomy. Hey,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: that's what I meant by now shooting blanks Hangman and
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: him page. He came out and he made a you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: fairly impassioned speech, looked good, got a haircut which I liked.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: You know, the mullets are just so eighties to me,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and I just don't understand men and women because there
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: are plenty of women wrestlers that were mullets. You know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: it just drives me insane. It doesn't make sense. Yeah,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: you know. But anyway, he did say that he was
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: no longer going to challenge for the aw World Championship,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: but he did call out the International Championship, the TND Championship,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: the Continental Championship, basically every other every other championship. And
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: the thing that I took away from that myself personally,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I want to see what you guys think about that
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: is about this is that he is going to challenge
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: for the AW World Championship. I don't believe.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, eventually he will, but I think it'll be a
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: while and I think he will focus on those other titles,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: probably get a run with the International or the Continental
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: in the relative future. I think like by the end
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: of the year he will be holding one of those titles.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, now what do you think?
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of agree he will challenge for the
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: International or the Contal. My preference is to contintal against
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: John Locksley.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I have a different theory. I believe. I believe that
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Hangman Out of Page is going to be AW World Champion,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: and I believe he's going to be a W World Championship,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: a LOTS champion a lot sooner than you think.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: We talked about possibly, you know, doing a tag team
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: match with AT at Redemption involving Kenny Omega. Hangman out
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: A Page would be a really good partner for Kenny Omega.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: When you guys agree.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been tacting champions, so.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Right, Uh, let's just say it again. This isn't k fabe.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: This isn't k fabe that Kenny Omega gets uh, I
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: don't know. He's unable to wrestle at all In and
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: he hands elects Hangman Hangman Adam Page to take his place,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: and and he basically vacates the title and gives it
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: the Hangman and a Page. It'd be unprecedented, but I
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: think that's how Hangmanana Page gets back into the AW
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: World title scene. Then then MJF was like, no, no, no, no, no,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: this will not do. You cannot challenge for the title.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Even if he doesn't get the title, he's going to
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: be in the world title match at all In. And
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: MJF comes in and says, no, no, no, no, no,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: you can't do this. We have an agreement. And Hangman
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: says and a Hangman and Page says, I'll tell you what.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: You come into the AW World Championship match, make it
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: a three way at all In, and it's and it's
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: an elimination match. You know, so if if I eliminate
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: you Hangman, and Paige says Hangman Adam Page says, if
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I eliminate you meeting MJF, our deal is Nolan void.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: And that's how Hangman Adam Paige gets back into the
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: AW World title scene and is able to challenge again.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Of course, Hangman at Pat will then eliminate Will while MGF,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: but Will Osprey will then defeat Hangman Adam Page to
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: become AW World Champion. So there you go. And the
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: reason I'm saying it this way is because now you've
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: got whether it's Kenny Omega Hangman at In Page, they're
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: both gonna be baby paces. Adding a third person in
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: the MJF to that match puts arguably aw's biggest star
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: in the match and aw's biggest heel in the match.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: So that eliminates the face versus face thing.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't hate the idea of the triple thread,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: but I hate this stuff with any giving this title
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: to Hangman just being completely honest one of those spot not.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Giving the vacating the title and but giving his spot
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: the Hangman. You know what I mean. I'm not giving
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: the title the Hangman per se, but giving a spot
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: in the match against Will Osprey the Hangman, which is
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: basically like saying, you know, if he wins, he becomes
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: the world champion, which causes MG have to come in
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: and say no, no.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: No, I can see where you're going with. I just
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I guess I really don't like the idea. Can he
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: just giving up his spot in the title that unless
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: unless he getsmately injured.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Well it's it's gonna be a k k Fabe injury
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: kind of thing, you know. I think Kenny will probably
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: be out there as you know, as at JPW does
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: all the time, and these are two you know, n
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: jp wish kind of guys, you know. But as a second, you.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Know, I think Hayman is it would honestly be better
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: for him to stay out of the title picture for
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: a little while.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean I just do not want to
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: see Kenny Omega in a AW World Championship match period
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Say, that is where we completely disagree.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: He shouldn't be in the tap, he should not be
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: the world champion right now, and he should not be
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: fighting for a championship. That's just me. He's He's not
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Kenny Omega anymore in my opinion.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm gonna disagree with you. I think Hayman's path
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: is honestly the continental title, and I want to see
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: him win the continental class.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: That could be a good, good thing.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Another thing that gets me, you know when it comes
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: to Kenny Omega and will Osprey again, will Osprey is
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: gonna win this match. And if you go online and
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: you look, they're everybody, so many people, not everybody, but
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: so many people are saying that will Osprey is gonna
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: not only gonna win this match, but he's gonna legitimately
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: kick out at the one wingon Angel. I don't want
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: to see that. I really don't. It is.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: It is, without a doubt, one of the most protected
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: finishers in all of wrestling. I mean, only two people
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: have ever kicked out Todebushi and him Jay.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: And MGF right Value Big Quiet. Let's let's well that
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: that last line.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I don't agree.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I'm i'm he kicked It's on TV, he kicked off.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: He kicked out of the one.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: If you ignore the forty seven second delay between Kenny
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Omega hitting the one Wing Angel and the rest counting
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: one and two, then m j F absolutely we kicked
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: out of the one week the.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Thing is is that the ref count of one two
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: and MGF kicked out. It's not fault that the ref
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: was insanely slow, you know. I mean you could have
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: clocked them getting back into the ring and doing the
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: one and two with the sun dial, but that doesn't
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: mean anything. MGF kicked out of the one Wing an
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Angel valve.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, was what was the question?
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I have no idea talking. Yeah, we're talking about Hangman,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: but we got back as we do. We're talking about
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: MGF kicking out of the one Wing and Angel and
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: our discussion about Hangman and a page who was shooting
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: blanks because he had a fastectomy mm hmm recently.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the idea you propose is not that bad. But
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: I kind of agree with Chris not yet for Hangman
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: to be in the world titled picture.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Not yet.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: He's a cowboy, so usually cowboys respect that work. Yeah.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Well, the thing.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Is is that I do believe that MGF is not
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: going to be around as much toward the end of
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: the year, whether he's doing another movie or if he
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: just needs some time off to compalesce. I do not
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: believe that Kenny Omega is going to be around, you know,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: for a lot for the rest of the year because
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: I do not believe that what he's saying when he
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: says that he's one, I think that's k fabe. I
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: mean I I don't think that he is. And I
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: don't think that he can go like he needs to
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: go if he was the if he was to remain
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: the aw world champion, Will Osprey's going to be the
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: world champion. They need legitimate contenders, and Will Osprey is
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: one of the top legitimate contenders right now that doesn't
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: have a belt. I mean not Wills hang In and
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: A Page is one of the top legitimate contenders that
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: doesn't have a belt right now.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're figuring we're forgetting Swerve.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Swerve is another thing. I don't really know what's going
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: on with Swerve.
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: I really don't for the time, I hope so because
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: Osprey versus Swerve, which we've again, we need something new.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: We just saw Osprey versus Swerve what three weeks ago? Yeah,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, we haven't seen you know,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: it's don't I don't know if Hangman and Osprey have
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: met before. I know that they have, but not I.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got the craziest idea just popping up
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: my head. I just said, Swerve, Swerve Kenny at Redemption,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: yes or no?
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: No, because.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have Okay, So look, this is a hard
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: note for me, and I'm interested to hear what Chris says,
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: because look, if Kenny beat Swerve, then you're doing the
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: same thing that Darby Allen did that everybody did. He
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: beat Yeah, banger match, possibly, but the wrong person is
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: going to lose. And if you have Swerve beat Kenny
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: at Redemption, then you get a repeat of a recent
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: match of Swerve and Osprey, all in which Osprey is
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: gonna win again, you know, and that doesn't help Swerve either. Again,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the future of the company. Swerve is
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: the future of the one of the future wrestlers the company.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Osprey is as well, Hangman is as well. Kenny doesn't
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: fit in that, and that's the outlier. Kenny Omega is
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: kind of throwing a kind of a wrench into things.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's just the way I feel.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Just n versus we got, we got.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Osprey versus Swerve, that absolute banger of a match, that
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: blood fat you know. But again, it was just recently.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: It was like three weeks ago, you know, I.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Mean the can Swerve was I mean just a few
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: months ago. On.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Please, now, if the play is for a Swerve to
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: beat Kenny, if if it does come to that swerving
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Kenny at redemption, I would definitely have Swerve win, and
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: then I would have Swerve go on to all in
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: and actually win. I would have a beat Osprey it
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: all in. That's the only way that it makes sense.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: And then you have a really big feud because Swerve,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: of course, Swerve beating Ousbrey all way, it would probably
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: be by something nefarious, and then you have then that's established.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: That's that's a big feud. But again you're still looking
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: at the fact that they just wrestled, They just had
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: a big match. Yeah, you can't overdo these big matches.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, repetition is not a good thing.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna see, we're gonna in a celebration tomorrow
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: for Kenny, and it's going to develop in tomorrow and
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: next week because redemption is right around the corner.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Well tomorrow night. They one day.
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: I think that you guys will agree to me that
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: it would be absolutely dumb, not to have somebody interrupt
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: and challenge Kenny Omega during that celebration tomorrow.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we will find out who Kenny Omega is facing
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: at Redemption, whether it's a one on one match or
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: a tag team match or whatever. We will find out.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Redemption really needs to start taking shape to Oh, it
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: absolutely does.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: It's one of the things that I've noticed about Tony Kahan.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: He waits until Collision a lot to establish pay per
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: view matches. You got to do it on your biggest show,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: which is Dynamite.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Ye, Like, he will wait until the show before to
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: finalize like three or four matches. I think that's one
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: of the downsides to, you know, all the new pay
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: per viewers. It's great work.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Well, well look let me interrupt you, Chris, because we're
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: going to talk about Redemption and what he needs to
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: do for Redemption right after we do our next segment. Okay,
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: so we'll go for that. Well, let's move on to
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: our next seven because we've talked about Kyle Fletcher as well.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I used to do International Champion. Basically, he's got to
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: defend who do you think he's going to be defending against.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Well, first things first, you need to say his full name.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: That is the proto Star, Kyle Herbert, Walker, Kenny Bunbourg,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Tomaso Fletcher. Wait wait no, that is your ae W
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: International Champion, the Protostarre Kyle Herbert Walker, Kinney von Torte,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Camacho Fletcher.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: They go. But uh, anyway, I kind of think it's
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: gonna be Mike Bailey against and I wouldn't be surprised
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: if Bailey wins this, I really would. But what do
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: you guys think it should?
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Well, it should be Bailey versus Kevin Knight, with Bailey
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: winning the T and T title. I wouldn't mind Bailey
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: versus Fletcher, but I don't want Fletcher to lose the
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: title so quickly. I mean, what he just won.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing about the TNT Championship. It does
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: unlike the TBS Championship, which is basically its sister championship.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: The TNT Championship has been known to hot potato quite
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: a bit.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Tyle has the international title.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, so never mind.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I'm saying Bailey should be facing Kevin Knight for the
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: TNT title.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think it should be Bay against Fletcher
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: for the International Championship. But I do think Bailey should win,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: you know, and then.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind Bailey winning. I just I don't want
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Fletcher to have it such a short ring.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see your point, but I think that again,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm really for building stars, you know. I think
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: that aw needs to build stars, and Bailey just lost
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: to Fletcher, and uh kind of lost not quite a
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: clean way. I guess it's the best way of putting in.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I really think that, you know, the redemption, the pay
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: per viewer is called redemption. You know, they don't necessarily
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: even have to go They don't even necessarily to have
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: an international title match. It could just be a grudge
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: match between Fletcher and Bailey, you know, just go either way.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, keep in mind also that Dynamite Tomorrow nights
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: in Boston and Tomaso Champion is from Boston. I think. Yeah.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying is that Tomaso Champion is from Boston,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: and we may see that match made between Kevin Knight
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: and Tomasco Champion Champa for the T and T Championship
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: in that redemption. But that's neither here or there, because
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: we're getting too Let's just go ahead and go on
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: to the redemption thing, because as we seem to be
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: talking about redemption, so again, I just said it. I
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: think it's gonna be Tomaso Champa versus Kevin Knight for
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: the T and T Championship. I think it's gonna be
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Mike Bailey versus versus DoD Kyle Fletcher possibly for the
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: International Championship, but it would not surprise me if they
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: just did a grudge match. I think it's gonna be
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Sisters of Sin on Zero Hour against Divine Dominion.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, it should be on the main card.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: It should be on the main card. But for what
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: what ever reason, Tony Kahan just refuses to put Divine
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Dominion on the main card at the pay per view.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: He keeps putting them on it as the zero our main.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Event exactly, and they've delivered on every single one of
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: their their matches. They've delivered.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I can kind of understand it from a
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: viewpoint of you want the crowd to be more interested
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: in the show. Divine Dominion is an immediate attention grabber
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: as Divine Dominion just from a size standpoint or all that,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, these are the kind of women they up.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe I want to watch the whole stuff.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean, look, I mean I just think
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: that it's a given and it's going to be based
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: on what happened last week, that it's going to be
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: a divine dominion. And the sisters have said, who's gonna
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: face a Karashida?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: You know that's an interesting one. I could kind of
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: see her just laying out an open challenge.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Honestly, Well, the TBS Championship is an open challenge match.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: And I I hate to say it, I'm gonna say.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: I know, Chris, you're gonna agree with me. I do
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: think that Mina shar Cowas should actually face Karashida and
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: win the TBS Championship, But damn it, don't put me
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: to share cow On on match unless she's gonna a championship
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: matches she's unless he's gonna win, because it's actually coming
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: becoming quite preposterous at this point. How many matches that
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: she's lost for titles?
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I agree, and nothing would make me happier than her.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Same same for you, Valerie. What other what other titles
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: we were missing?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Your John cottonmental?
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who's who should face John Moxley? Or are we
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: going to see John Moxley I mean, I'm sure we will.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: He's in every show, so I'm sure he's going to be.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: A yeah, I hope, So I want to see him again.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I was just goings like Forbidden Door what they bounced
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: the U Continental title match the Dynamite before against Bandido
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: and it ended up being awesome. So it could just
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: be another deal like that where someone comes out and says, hey,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I want to fight. I want to fight you for
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: the king.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Haven't we done that before?
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: I want to see something new, you know, But the
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: problem is is that aw hasn't done anything new. I
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: wouldn't mind seeing, you know, the Conglomeration lose the Trio's championships.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing, you know, John Moxley lose the
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: continental championship.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get on Dorade versus Mark David.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, and I think Andrade will take the
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: national title.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: And he should. I think Androte is a much better
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: wrestler than Mark Davis. I think he's got a much
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: more gravitating I guess gimmick and he's just more fun.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Taking nothing away from Mark Davis, but Androtti's got him
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: beat on practically every level.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: And Mark Davis has been a really good heel champion.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: He's had a solid run, decent number of defenses. Him
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: losing at Redemption in a great match against Andrade won't
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: hurt him one bit, and then you can have him
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: and Doyle back together as a team.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: This is true, and they would be a very good
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: tag team to go for the aw Tag Team Championships,
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: because you know, one thing we didn't talk about was
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: the tag team champions And to be honest with you,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: I think that's kind of across the boat. Kitch and
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Copeland's a decent story, but their time again, we've got
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: to go to the future here.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: They're keeping the belts until all In. Well, they'll lose
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: in a multi team Yeah.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: You know the thing that bothers me about all In.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've already said that it's more than likely.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: We saw the setup. It's more than likely going to
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: be the Sisters of Sin against the Divine Dominion at Redemption,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: But then it's going to be the Brawling Birds against
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: the Divine Dominion at all In. And I'm sorry, but
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: the Brawling Birds have done absolutely nothing to make me
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: want them, want me to see them at all In.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: They've done nothing. They have zero chemistry together. Individually, they're great,
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: their vignettes are great, their matches are awful, and they've
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: not really wrestled. I think they've had six matches as
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: a team, and I think four of those matches have
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: been against developmental talent. You know, they've really not I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: mean we're talking about like non roster talent. Three at
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: least half of them have been against developmental They've they've
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: not really shown anything to make me think that they
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: deserve a title shot.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you've got to reintroduction Vignette on Dynamite,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and they're going to start having matches probably every week
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: leading up to All In. Like I said, the easy
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: easy thing to do is to have them and another
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: team both, you know, climbing up the ranks. You set
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: up the match for, you know, the number one contender
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: match a week or two before All In. They win.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Value. We're going to say something too.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: I kind of agree with what you say, cal what
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: you said Calson about the brawlingberg so and I kind
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: of agree with Chris with the lean the leaning up
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: to it. But I'm seeing a three way for the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: tag for the women's tag team title.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, so.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Sin versus the brawling bird versus the Divine dominion and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: not and not on the pre show on the world card, but.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Where at all end or of redemption all in? But
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: if we have sisters of sin versus versus Divine Dominion
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: at redemption, which looks like that is clearly obvious what
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: they're going to do, why would the going to win?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: But I would do.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, at all in, I would do like, uh,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: either a garage match or a table tables match or
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: something something physical, you know.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: But the thing is again it goes back to you
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: know what I've been saying all you know, establishing news Stars,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: high End a mile world are really good. Excuse me,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Tag Team, Rett Velvet and Zeta Steel have been really
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: good together. I have enjoyed them.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: So I don't know easy way to get to valvestriple
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: threat idea. The matchet Redemption is a no contest because
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: they end up outside the reen fighting double count out.
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  Speaker 1: They fight all the way to the back. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they keep they keep feuding and you could eat. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you have the sisters then getting wins. You have the
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  Speaker 1: Brolin Birds getting wins. They go they have their number
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  Speaker 1: one Continuers Match, Divine Dominion, Ruins It Boom, triple threat.
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  Speaker 3: So you're saying that there's gonna be a no contest
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  Speaker 3: at Redemption, and there's gonna be a no contest leading
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  Speaker 3: up into All In.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that is what's gonna happen, but something
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying that would be an easy way to get
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  Speaker 1: to the triple throat other.
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  Speaker 3: Than the only time I can ever think of something
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  Speaker 3: happening like that on a pay per view, Well, we've
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  Speaker 3: never seen that kind of thing happen, and no contest
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  Speaker 3: in the pay per view, have we.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think, like you said, it'll probably be on
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  Speaker 1: zero out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. The only thing that I could see
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  Speaker 3: that could possibly you know, I remember when I think
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  Speaker 3: it was, yeah, Lance Archer faced Orange Cassidy for the
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  Speaker 3: International Championship and Lance Archer got counted out while I
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  Speaker 3: was standing on the apron. You know, that could be
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  Speaker 3: one of the things that you know, I got counted
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  Speaker 3: up by one half of a second, you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of thing. You know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, in the zero hour, I don't see a lot
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  Speaker 4: of matches, probably one or two because there's a little
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  Speaker 4: segment with the rouge O family that was announced for
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  Speaker 4: zero So I see probably two matches at the zero.
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  Speaker 3: They'll probably get three in there. They probably will. They
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  Speaker 3: usually get that's pretty standard for zero hours, the three
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  Speaker 3: matches and the usual and one of them will probably
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  Speaker 3: be the Divine Dominion. And his sister's a sin you know,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: don't forget you got big boom Aj out there. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't wasn't at the last one, so they got
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: to get him in. Gotta get him in one. So
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  Speaker 3: if I don't Valery, you're probably.
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  Speaker 1: Not a fan. Sorry, yeah, not a fan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I wouldn't be surprised to see somebody
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  Speaker 3: like the Rascals and the Death Writers or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, and they're probably a twelve man fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: You know. They seem to do that at the buy
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  Speaker 3: ins or zero hours a lot where they have a
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  Speaker 3: right exactly do something different. Have a uh a tag
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  Speaker 3: casino gauntlet.
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  Speaker 1: They've done a Tag Casino Battle Royal, but but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they've never done a tag casino gauntlet. That would actually
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So there you go. That's my that's my idea
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  Speaker 3: tag casino gauntlet at the buy in for to determine
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  Speaker 3: the future tag team championship. Uh, you know at all No,
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  Speaker 3: probably wouldn't be at all in they don't usually do that.
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  Speaker 3: I would say it would probably be you know, at
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: what are I don't know they do those shows whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just you know, I I am happy that Full
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: Gear in November is going to be indoors because I
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: understand that the wrestlers were miserable in clear Water, Florida
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: for Beach Break because it was like one hundred and
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: two degrees in the ring, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, and it's on Saturday, and it's on
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  Speaker 4: set finally.
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  Speaker 5: Finally, on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: I wish Redemption was on Saturday instead of Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: The great thing about football season starting aw paper views
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  Speaker 1: goat Saturday night.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Oh that's exactly true. But anyway, let's wrap up
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  Speaker 3: the show. I hope you guys enjoyed it. This is
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: an aw FAUB community podcast ignition. We're here every Tuesday
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  Speaker 3: night at eight forty five Eastern time. I want to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: thank both Valerie and Chris and of course MK. By
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: the way, MK did send me a message his phone died.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: He was doing the podcast on his phone, and I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: guess he didn't charge it, and it absolutely died on him,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: and it work in charge once he put it on
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: the chart. So just to note, you know, if you
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: ever are doing a podcast and you're doing it on
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: your phone, please make sure it's charged the fullest and
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: on the charger when you're doing the podcast, because that's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: the kind of thing that will happen. But anyway, we
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  Speaker 3: will be back on Tuesday at eight forty five Eastern time,
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  Speaker 3: and guess what it's going to be our ae W
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  Speaker 3: Redemption Prediction and preview show or preview or prediction show.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm hoping that this week we do get
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  Speaker 3: some matches actually established for redemption so we actually have
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  Speaker 3: something to talk about on the show next week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, guys, thanks for coming. This is Kelston and
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  Speaker 3: on behalf of the aw Fat podcast team. Good Night everybody,
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  Speaker 3: Good night, Kenny, good night, good night Eddie Kingston. Of course,