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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.
- 0:12Speaker 2: What is happening? Is this real? Does no one learn
- 0:18Speaker 2: from history? Look, I'm not perfect, everyone can agree on that.
- 0:24Speaker 2: But I try to look at the mistakes I made
- 0:27Speaker 2: in the past, and I tried not to at least
- 0:29Speaker 2: repeat those mistakes again. I can make all new mistakes.
- 0:34Speaker 2: But this is serious right now. A two time killer,
- 0:41Speaker 2: convicted two time killer is on the run. Now wait
- 0:46Speaker 2: for it, He's not just on the run. A prison
- 0:51Speaker 2: guard was on duty at the time. Danello Cavalcanti, how
- 0:58Speaker 2: do I say? Crab walks up the wall. You can
- 1:03Speaker 2: see the jailhouse video. He is like, has his arms
- 1:09Speaker 2: on one side. It's a very narrow wallway hallway. He's
- 1:14Speaker 2: got his arms on one in his feet on the other,
- 1:17Speaker 2: and he just climbs up and he gets out through
- 1:22Speaker 2: barbed wire fence. A double killer, and so far he
- 1:27Speaker 2: has managed to outsmart authorities.
- 1:30Speaker 1: For days and days and days.
- 1:32Speaker 2: You think he won't kill you to get a place
- 1:37Speaker 2: to stay, or to get your vehicle, or to get
- 1:40Speaker 2: some money or different clothes, because he will. I mean,
- 1:45Speaker 2: it's he Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
- 1:47Speaker 2: being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious exem
- 1:50Speaker 2: one eleven Bolow be on the lookout. Take a listen
- 1:54Speaker 2: to our friends at Fox twenty nine.
- 1:55Speaker 3: Local state, and federal law enforcement spending hours into the
- 1:59Speaker 3: night searching for Danello Calvalcante, the thirty four year old
- 2:03Speaker 3: escaping from the Chester County prison just before nine o'clock
- 2:06Speaker 3: this morning.
- 2:07Speaker 4: He had deployed canine units, drones, and helicopters in this
- 2:11Speaker 4: man hunt.
- 2:12Speaker 1: You see him, do not approach him.
- 2:15Speaker 2: We're asking you please.
- 2:16Speaker 1: To contact nine one one.
- 2:18Speaker 5: He is considered extremely dangerous.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Tom Pancoast lives near the prison.
- 2:23Speaker 6: We locked the house up.
- 2:24Speaker 7: We're we're in it now.
- 2:25Speaker 3: Residents within a six mile radius we're notified of the
- 2:28Speaker 3: prison break nearby Westchester University sending out an alert to students.
- 2:33Speaker 8: It was honestly pretty shocking.
- 2:34Speaker 9: Like I was just in class and I got like
- 2:36Speaker 9: a text. Everyone did, and we were just all confused
- 2:38Speaker 9: about it.
- 2:38Speaker 6: No one knows what to do in this situation, so
- 2:40Speaker 6: it's kind of just like one of those where you
- 2:42Speaker 6: just stay inside if you can.
- 2:43Speaker 2: I will never forget the night the Fulton County Courthouse
- 2:51Speaker 2: killer escaped. He was on an elevator with a female
- 2:57Speaker 2: sheriff who was armed. He managed to disarm her and
- 3:01Speaker 2: get away. I had just flown down to visit my
- 3:06Speaker 2: parents from New York, where I lived.
- 3:08Speaker 10: And.
- 3:10Speaker 2: That was the first thing that I saw on the
- 3:12Speaker 2: knees that I was walking through the airport, and the
- 3:15Speaker 2: whole city was in fear because this guy had committed
- 3:19Speaker 2: many felonies, including murder, shot up the courthouse, including a judge.
- 3:28Speaker 2: I played softball with a court reporter that had been
- 3:33Speaker 2: my court reporter when I was still a prosecutor. It
- 3:38Speaker 2: just went on and on and on. These people have
- 3:42Speaker 2: nothing to lose. Now take a listen to our friends
- 3:46Speaker 2: at crime Online.
- 3:47Speaker 11: When Dan Yellow Cavacanti escaped the Chester County prison, he
- 3:50Speaker 11: was following the path of Igor Bolt, an inmate who
- 3:53Speaker 11: was able to escape the same prison less than four
- 3:56Speaker 11: months ago. Bolt broke out the prison by scaling a
- 3:58Speaker 11: wall in an exercise gard getting access to the roof.
- 4:01Speaker 11: According to the criminal complaint, a Chester County prison surveillance
- 4:04Speaker 11: camera captured Bolt's escape. According to the complaint, Bolt was
- 4:08Speaker 11: able to scale a narrow hallway by placing his feet
- 4:10Speaker 11: on one wall in his hands on the other, climbing
- 4:12Speaker 11: the walls in a horizontal position until he reaches the roof.
- 4:15Speaker 11: Bolt then runs across the roof, gets out of the
- 4:18Speaker 11: prison by climbing down from the roof by the visitor's entrance,
- 4:21Speaker 11: where there is less security, and running off the grounds
- 4:23Speaker 11: on the south side of the prison and more. After
- 4:25Speaker 11: Bolt's escape, the prison called in a consultant who recommended
- 4:28Speaker 11: razor wire be added to the roof. The prison made
- 4:31Speaker 11: the change to the roof, but didn't account for the
- 4:33Speaker 11: human air that occurred. The guard on duty saw Bolt escaping.
- 4:36Speaker 11: The guard on duty when Cavalcanti escape wasn't looking. Cavalcante
- 4:40Speaker 11: was on the run for an hour before anyone knew
- 4:43Speaker 11: he was gone.
- 4:43Speaker 9: Video released today shows thirty four year old's convicted killer
- 4:47Speaker 9: Danello Cavalcante scale a wall. From there, Cavalcante made his
- 4:51Speaker 9: way outside the Chester County prison.
- 4:53Speaker 12: At eight fifty one am, Cavalcanti escapes from the prison,
- 4:56Speaker 12: having crabble up a wall, push his way through where hiservoir,
- 4:59Speaker 12: run across roof, scale another fence, and push his.
- 5:02Speaker 9: Way through more razoroiir and past a guard tower where
- 5:05Speaker 9: a guard was monitoring the prison yard where the inmates.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Were okay, you're also hearing our friends at NBC TAN
- 5:11Speaker 2: and there's one more upday. Listen.
- 5:13Speaker 5: The acting warden confirmed a different inmate escaped in a
- 5:16Speaker 5: nearly identical fashion in May. In response, the prison installed
- 5:20Speaker 5: razor wire on the roof, saying outside security consultants told
- 5:24Speaker 5: them that would secure the exercise yard, but they say
- 5:28Speaker 5: Cavalcante simply climbed through the wire on his way out,
- 5:32Speaker 5: and a tower guard who was supposed to be watching
- 5:34Speaker 5: the inmates never saw it happen.
- 5:36Speaker 8: We're hearing that an eyewitness account was since confirmed by
- 5:40Speaker 8: some trail camera footage placing Cavalcante in the area of
- 5:44Speaker 8: Longwood Gardens, and that's really where a lot of the
- 5:47Speaker 8: attention has been today and puts him.
- 5:50Speaker 13: Over in the area of Longwood Gardens.
- 5:52Speaker 14: Eyewitness accounts and trail camera footage place convicted killer Denello
- 5:57Speaker 14: Cavalcante at Longwood Gardens as a recent Thursday at noon.
- 6:02Speaker 14: It's where officers with long guns once again descended today.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Well, that's a lot to figure out, you were hearing
- 6:08Speaker 2: from our friends at ABC and Crime Online. Okay, we've
- 6:11Speaker 2: got an all star panel to make sense of what's
- 6:13Speaker 2: happening right now. But I can tell you this, he
- 6:15Speaker 2: is long gone from that area. First of all, I
- 6:21Speaker 2: want to go to Alexis Terschak Crime online dot com
- 6:23Speaker 2: investigative reporter joining us. But Alexis, hold on just a moment.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Right now, I'm being joined by an expert. He is
- 6:30Speaker 2: called a geographic profiler. A geographic profiler. Now, we've heard
- 6:38Speaker 2: of FBI profilers and these renowned profilers, and they basically
- 6:43Speaker 2: am I wrong? They always say, oh, it's an introvert
- 6:47Speaker 2: of white male. That just always this is what they say,
- 6:51Speaker 2: and they're usually right. But that said, have you heard
- 6:55Speaker 2: of a geographic profiler? I'm going to try to figure
- 7:00Speaker 2: out why in the Hey, this is the second guy
- 7:04Speaker 2: and a couple of months to escape the same way,
- 7:07Speaker 2: and it's on video. What were the jailers doing while
- 7:12Speaker 2: this guy is crab walking up the wall, through the
- 7:16Speaker 2: barbed wire and out. When you hear this guy's record,
- 7:22Speaker 2: you're gonna do a backflip. Let's just say you don't
- 7:25Speaker 2: want to see his foot coming in your kitchen window.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Douglas McGregor is joining us. You can find him at
- 7:31Speaker 2: the geo profiler. Douglas, quickly, what is geographic profiling? And
- 7:38Speaker 2: what can you tell us about this guy? He's way
- 7:43Speaker 2: gone from anywhere near that prison.
- 7:44Speaker 6: Geographic profiling quickly, I'm just I look at the spatial, temporal, environmental,
- 7:49Speaker 6: and geographic elements of human behavior.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa? Wait, what the what and the
- 7:56Speaker 2: what and the what and the what. I got to
- 7:59Speaker 2: write this down. I feel like we're talking to a
- 8:00Speaker 2: medical examiner right now. Yeah, it's okay, okay, go ahead,
- 8:03Speaker 2: I'm writing this down and I don't know shorthand go ahead.
- 8:07Speaker 2: The what?
- 8:07Speaker 6: Okay, So this spatial for space, the temporal, so time, environmental,
- 8:14Speaker 6: and geographic elements of human behavior.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to have to break that down for
- 8:19Speaker 2: us to domies. Go ahead. That would be me spatial, temporal, environmental,
- 8:23Speaker 2: and geographic aspects of this guy, Danelle Cavalcante. Go ahead,
- 8:29Speaker 2: thirty four years old and he's changed his appearance. I'm
- 8:32Speaker 2: going to get to that.
- 8:33Speaker 15: Go ahead. Sure.
- 8:34Speaker 6: So I mean to start off just the prison itself
- 8:37Speaker 6: with the two escapes now in the in the last
- 8:41Speaker 6: little while. I mean that comes down to environmental criminology
- 8:45Speaker 6: as well, and that you know sets head crime prevention
- 8:49Speaker 6: through environmental design is one of the main concepts you
- 8:52Speaker 6: consider when designing any prison. Or neighborhood community, whatever it is,
- 8:56Speaker 6: shopping mall. And obviously they have to you know, they
- 9:01Speaker 6: have to better the design of their prison.
- 9:05Speaker 2: But did you say environmental criminology? Was that your terminology
- 9:09Speaker 2: right there?
- 9:10Speaker 15: Correct?
- 9:11Speaker 2: Okay? In other words, when you build a jail, you
- 9:13Speaker 2: try to think of things like not having inmates escape.
- 9:16Speaker 6: Exactly, that'd be your number one.
- 9:18Speaker 2: All right, I'm with you so far, okay.
- 9:22Speaker 6: And just so that's just the environmental design of the prison.
- 9:26Speaker 6: Moving on to the geographic profiling and looking at a
- 9:31Speaker 6: hostage or not the hostage somebody who escapes from prison specifically,
- 9:38Speaker 6: you're looking at you look at three different stages primarily,
- 9:43Speaker 6: so the first stage is they're looking at survival. And
- 9:46Speaker 6: there's no spatial plan spatial element to that in the
- 9:50Speaker 6: sense that when this person escapes from prison and they're
- 9:55Speaker 6: on the run, the first goal is just to get
- 9:57Speaker 6: away from the prison, get away from law enforcement, get
- 10:00Speaker 6: out of the perimeter, evade the helicopters, the dogs, the
- 10:06Speaker 6: human surveillance. And that's what cabal Kante did is he
- 10:09Speaker 6: may have had a direction he wanted to go, which
- 10:11Speaker 6: was probably north, but the different factors involved in the
- 10:16Speaker 6: infrastructure and the roads. They all they brought him. They
- 10:19Speaker 6: brought himself to Longwood, the Longwood Gardens area. Uh. And
- 10:25Speaker 6: again he's his goal here is survival.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Why do you say he probably wanted to go north,
- 10:30Speaker 2: but the conditions led him south to Logland Gardens.
- 10:33Speaker 6: Because stage two for a for you know, somebody who's
- 10:38Speaker 6: on the run, there is resources. So his resources, which
- 10:42Speaker 6: we now see is north. It's north up near East
- 10:46Speaker 6: Pipe Pipeland and uh and Phoenixviille. So his resources were
- 10:51Speaker 6: up there. His sister was up there, his acquaintances, his
- 10:54Speaker 6: former co workers, UH, his boyfriends, they were all up there.
- 10:58Speaker 6: And you know that's by the time you get to
- 11:01Speaker 6: stage two, you have to have a geographic profile in
- 11:03Speaker 6: place to account for those. You have to have that
- 11:06Speaker 6: all set up. You have to do your social network analysis,
- 11:09Speaker 6: you have to do your you know, your cell phone,
- 11:11Speaker 6: your financial transaction.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Went on with so geographic profiling. First they're looking at survival,
- 11:17Speaker 2: getting away, getting away from the perimeter, getting away from
- 11:21Speaker 2: helicopters and dogs, uh, searching for them. Then they're going
- 11:26Speaker 2: for resources. You say that this guy would likely have
- 11:29Speaker 2: wanted to go north originally because acet Pieland area in
- 11:35Speaker 2: close to his Sistern, France where he can get help.
- 11:37Speaker 2: But he was driven south. Okay, I'm with you so
- 11:41Speaker 2: far exactly.
- 11:42Speaker 6: So he probably had a plan to go north that
- 11:44Speaker 6: just didn't work out. And you know when you first escape,
- 11:46Speaker 6: all the adrenalines going and you just you just want
- 11:48Speaker 6: to get away, get some distance, and so that's what
- 11:51Speaker 6: he did. But we see that once he was comfortable,
- 11:55Speaker 6: and once he noticed that, once he realized that he
- 11:58Speaker 6: wasn't being found, he dually started to go back north,
- 12:01Speaker 6: which is why he came across the dairy barnes and
- 12:07Speaker 6: he Based on the profile I quickly put together, it
- 12:10Speaker 6: looks like he took the Route fifty two all the
- 12:12Speaker 6: way south to Longwood Gardens, that's where the sightings work,
- 12:17Speaker 6: and then he probably passed the dairy barne on the
- 12:20Speaker 6: way down south, and then he reverted back to north,
- 12:22Speaker 6: thinking he could get a vehicle from there, which is
- 12:24Speaker 6: what he did.
- 12:25Speaker 2: I'm with you so far. Hold on just a moment, guys,
- 12:27Speaker 2: you're hearing Douglas McGregor, a renowned geographic profiler. If you
- 12:34Speaker 2: haven't heard of that, this is who they call in
- 12:38Speaker 2: when there let's just say, between a rock and a
- 12:41Speaker 2: hard spot and they can't figure out where the inmate
- 12:44Speaker 2: has gone. They bring in somebody like Douglas McGregor.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grease.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Alexis Trestchuk joining me in Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter.
- 13:09Speaker 1: What happened in the jail?
- 13:11Speaker 2: I understand that the alcove, as I was calling it,
- 13:14Speaker 2: a small hallway, it's got to be small because this
- 13:17Speaker 2: guy is not that tall, a little over five feet,
- 13:21Speaker 2: and it's arms to legs horizontal and he crab walks
- 13:25Speaker 2: up the alcove or is I called the hallway? And
- 13:29Speaker 2: Jackie's just pointing out correctly that the alcove itself is
- 13:33Speaker 2: in the shadows. The lookout is in the sun, so
- 13:37Speaker 2: the lookout wasn't seeing there correctly, But correct me if
- 13:41Speaker 2: I'm wrong. In May, a guy did the same exact thing,
- 13:47Speaker 2: and all the jail did was put barbed wire up
- 13:50Speaker 2: on the top and Cavalcante just went right through the
- 13:53Speaker 2: barbed wire. What are they thinking? What's the guard doing?
- 13:57Speaker 10: Well, apparently the guard they have soaked.
- 13:59Speaker 7: The guard was originally put.
- 14:01Speaker 10: On leave as they did an investigation, and then the
- 14:03Speaker 10: guard what you know what, well.
- 14:05Speaker 2: What I don't care about him being on leave? Okay,
- 14:08Speaker 2: I hope he's watching right now. I don't want to
- 14:10Speaker 2: hear about what they did after Cavalcanti gets out. The
- 14:13Speaker 2: guy's at least a double killer. Have you seen you
- 14:17Speaker 2: know what? Hold on? Who is Cavalcanti? That's what we
- 14:21Speaker 2: need to figure out. To figure out. Look, if you
- 14:24Speaker 2: don't know a horse, look at his trycracker. If you
- 14:26Speaker 2: don't know what he's gonna do, look at what he's
- 14:28Speaker 2: already done. Let's start friends at ABC Philadelphia and crime Online.
- 14:33Speaker 11: In Brazil's northern state of Tokenteines, there's a small town
- 14:37Speaker 11: of Figueropolis, where, according to police, a violent former street
- 14:41Speaker 11: gang member Dan Yellow Cavalcante is wanted for the murder
- 14:45Speaker 11: of a twenty year old man over an alleged debt
- 14:47Speaker 11: related to a vehicle repair. Kavacante allegedly shoots the victim
- 14:51Speaker 11: six times, steals his cell phone, and it's seen fleeing
- 14:54Speaker 11: the scene in a car. Right after the alleged murder,
- 14:56Speaker 11: Cavalcante takes off. Cavalcante's plan to go from Arto Rico
- 15:00Speaker 11: to the United States.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Okay, you're hearing our friend Dave Mackett Crime Online. Let
- 15:04Speaker 2: that sink in. Just for a moment with me. Matthew Mangino,
- 15:10Speaker 2: high profile lawyer, former prosecutor, former district attorney in Lawrence County, Pennsylvania.
- 15:16Speaker 2: Author of the Executioner's Toll, the Crimes, theres Trials, Appeals,
- 15:21Speaker 2: last Meals and Final Words, executions of forty six people
- 15:25Speaker 2: across the US. You got me at final Meals. But
- 15:30Speaker 2: Matthew Mangino, did you hear that? In Brazil this guy
- 15:36Speaker 2: gets in an argument over paying the repair for a
- 15:40Speaker 2: car and just kills the guy, shooting him six times.
- 15:45Speaker 2: He doesn't go to jail. He takes off his plan
- 15:48Speaker 2: to go to Puerto Rico and then to the US,
- 15:52Speaker 2: and he makes it Now listen to this Mangino.
- 15:55Speaker 11: Shortly after arriving in the United States, Daniello cavia Conte
- 15:58Speaker 11: settles down in Chester County. Cavalcanti meets and begins dating
- 16:02Speaker 11: another resilient national, Deborah Brandeo. Brandeo is a single mother
- 16:06Speaker 11: of two children, ages seven and four, and although things
- 16:09Speaker 11: start off nice enough, the Philadelphia Inquired reports that Brandeo
- 16:13Speaker 11: has to file for a protection from abuse order against Cavalcante.
- 16:17Speaker 11: In one incidence, Cavalcante allegedly bit Brandeo on the lip,
- 16:21Speaker 11: causing it to bleed profusely while he chases her from
- 16:25Speaker 11: her own home. In another incident cited, Calvalcante allegedly chases
- 16:29Speaker 11: Brandeo with a knight Okay.
- 16:31Speaker 2: White a minute, it gets worse, CBS Philly.
- 16:35Speaker 16: If Shaster County man is behind bars tonight after he's
- 16:38Speaker 16: accused of killing his ex girlfriend in front of her
- 16:41Speaker 16: young children. Police say Danello Cavalcante stabbed Deborah Brondeo yesterday
- 16:46Speaker 16: afternoon outside of her Schoogle Township home. According to investigators,
- 16:50Speaker 16: Brondeo's seven year old daughter and three year old son
- 16:53Speaker 16: witnessed the crime, and the little girl identified.
- 16:56Speaker 6: The suspect for police.
- 16:58Speaker 4: The pain these children and all of miss Brandeo's loved
- 17:01Speaker 4: ones are enduring as a result of the defendants depravity
- 17:05Speaker 4: is horrific. We will ensure that the defendant is brought
- 17:09Speaker 4: to justice for this cold blooded, premeditated, and despicable act.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Cavalcanti was convicted earlier this month of stabbing to death
- 17:19Speaker 3: his ex girlfriend in front of her two young children.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Last week, he was sentenced to life in prison without parole.
- 17:25Speaker 3: He was awaiting transfer to a state prison when he
- 17:28Speaker 3: broke out.
- 17:29Speaker 11: At first, I didn't think it was a big deal
- 17:32Speaker 11: until I heard how dangerous to guy is.
- 17:34Speaker 6: He really has nothing to lose, So this is like
- 17:37Speaker 6: something that you see in the movies.
- 17:39Speaker 2: That is who we're talking about, Danello Cavalcanti. He guns
- 17:45Speaker 2: down a guy, hitting him six times in Native Brazil,
- 17:49Speaker 2: then comes here to the US. He beats and bats
- 17:54Speaker 2: and bats his girlfriend, biting her lip till it bleeds.
- 17:58Speaker 2: She calls for protection. Not long after that, he stabs
- 18:02Speaker 2: her multiple times, stabs her dead in front. For two children,
- 18:09Speaker 2: they're going to have that image and their heads the
- 18:12Speaker 2: rest of their lives. The last time they saw their
- 18:16Speaker 2: mother alive, she was being butchered by Calvi Kante. And
- 18:24Speaker 2: this is the guy, some prison guard with his head
- 18:29Speaker 2: up as ass let's escape. When the tower was searched.
- 18:39Speaker 2: When the tower was searched, they found the prison guard's
- 18:41Speaker 2: cell phone, which was against procedure. What was he doing
- 18:47Speaker 2: well on tiktalk, Matthew, go ahead.
- 18:50Speaker 17: I mean, there's a lot of questions here, but my
- 18:53Speaker 17: first question is, and having been a prosecutor and served
- 18:56Speaker 17: on the prison board for eight years, and where in Pennsylvania,
- 19:01Speaker 17: why was he still in the Chester County Jail. I mean,
- 19:05Speaker 17: they want to call it the Chester County prison, but
- 19:07Speaker 17: this is.
- 19:08Speaker 18: A county jail, and he was convicted, he was sentenced.
- 19:12Speaker 6: He should have been shipped out of.
- 19:14Speaker 18: That jail to a state correctional facility immediately. And the
- 19:20Speaker 18: way the process works in Pennsylvania is you go to
- 19:22Speaker 18: a diagnostic center where they evaluate you, then they send
- 19:26Speaker 18: you someplace permanently. Security is one hundred percent better in
- 19:31Speaker 18: state correctional facilities. Leaving him there, knowing that this place
- 19:36Speaker 18: has been susceptible to escape and how dangerous he was,
- 19:40Speaker 18: is really a concern for me. I would have had
- 19:43Speaker 18: him out of that facility the day he was sentenced
- 19:46Speaker 18: to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
- 19:49Speaker 2: Joining me is doctor Joy L. Crawsin, very well known
- 19:53Speaker 2: and respected psychologists joining us faculty Saint Leo University, consultant,
- 19:58Speaker 2: Blue Ball Institute, author, Operation SOS, Doctor Jory, thank you
- 20:03Speaker 2: for being with us. I'm right now almost speechless, not quite.
- 20:08Speaker 2: But this is the guy that we're not talking about
- 20:11Speaker 2: Otis and Mayberry, Okay, that gets too much to drink
- 20:16Speaker 2: and goes and locks himself into the jail cell and
- 20:20Speaker 2: falls asleep. This is the guy who has murdered once
- 20:25Speaker 2: over a car repair. Your husband is a mechanic, and
- 20:29Speaker 2: then you get a call six or seven o'clock he
- 20:31Speaker 2: doesn't come home for dinner. He's dead. Cavalcanti didn't want
- 20:36Speaker 2: to pay for his car repair and shot your husband,
- 20:41Speaker 2: the father of your children dead, and your life is
- 20:46Speaker 2: changed forever. Then he goes on to run successfully to
- 20:50Speaker 2: the US via Puerto Rico. He settles there in Chester,
- 20:55Speaker 2: and what does he do? Start beating, savagely eating his
- 21:00Speaker 2: girlfriend until ultimately, of course, the calls to police and
- 21:06Speaker 2: the tros and the TPOs are not worth the paper
- 21:10Speaker 2: they're written on. And now she has been stabbed, multiple
- 21:14Speaker 2: stab wounds in front of her children. And now some
- 21:18Speaker 2: a hole at the local jail isn't watching, and the
- 21:24Speaker 2: guy crab walks up and out, and so far he's
- 21:30Speaker 2: eluded police to look at two weeks. Now, what about
- 21:34Speaker 2: doctor Jorgean What kind of person murders over a car
- 21:38Speaker 2: repair and then over an argument and stabs the woman
- 21:42Speaker 2: dad in front of her two children.
- 21:44Speaker 19: Let me add a different paradigm here. You know, we're
- 21:48Speaker 19: talking about profile, and Doug did a great job on that.
- 21:52Speaker 19: You know, we use like personality profiles. You know, that's
- 21:55Speaker 19: kind of an American thing. Any different cultures, and when
- 21:59Speaker 19: you're dealing with violent international people, there's a protocol called
- 22:05Speaker 19: operational code analysis. People operate by codes. This guy's a
- 22:10Speaker 19: gang member. The code or the motto for MS thirteen
- 22:14Speaker 19: is rape, murder.
- 22:15Speaker 15: And control.
- 22:17Speaker 19: That's the code that they live by. You don't really
- 22:21Speaker 19: need to be able to identify, oh, this guy's a
- 22:23Speaker 19: narcissistic with bipolar tendencies and all that. You know, maybe
- 22:27Speaker 19: for treatment, but now you're hunting him down, So you
- 22:30Speaker 19: need to identify the code that he operates by. And
- 22:35Speaker 19: just like Douglas was saying, the time factor is very important,
- 22:39Speaker 19: he probably knew that he had an limited amount of
- 22:42Speaker 19: time in this county jail. And I agree that. You know,
- 22:46Speaker 19: here in our area, when they're convicted, they're moved within
- 22:49Speaker 19: twenty four to forty eight hours, they're out of our
- 22:52Speaker 19: county facility and they're going.
- 22:54Speaker 20: To the.
- 22:56Speaker 19: Diagnostic center we have here at Lake Butler in Florida.
- 22:59Speaker 19: So you know, that's kind of a breakdown. He was
- 23:02Speaker 19: aware of that, and he that's the way he operated.
- 23:06Speaker 19: Now my concern is he's out on the street Okay,
- 23:12Speaker 19: you saw the murderer down there. I mean somebody that
- 23:15Speaker 19: crossed him or he got angry at he killed, you know,
- 23:19Speaker 19: so he's going to be very quick to respond in
- 23:22Speaker 19: a very violent manner. I'd be very surprised if he
- 23:26Speaker 19: is taken alive, you know, again, by that operational code
- 23:31Speaker 19: that he has to himself, he's going to probably want
- 23:36Speaker 19: to die out on the street. He's not going to
- 23:38Speaker 19: be looking to serve his rest of his life in
- 23:41Speaker 19: a prison.
- 23:42Speaker 2: So you're basically saying he won't go back alive. I'm
- 23:46Speaker 2: not worried about him getting back alive. I'm more worried
- 23:49Speaker 2: about who he's going to encounter along his way. Oh definitely,
- 23:53Speaker 2: and has a tep to get away, and he's doing
- 23:56Speaker 2: a pretty good job of it so far. I'm embarrassed
- 23:59Speaker 2: for law enforcement to say and thanks to the prison
- 24:03Speaker 2: guard probably scrolling through, what would you say, plenty of
- 24:08Speaker 2: fish tender who knows maybe a cash, a little TikTok
- 24:12Speaker 2: while this guy gets out a double killer. Guys, take
- 24:14Speaker 2: a listen to our cut twelve. This is Lieutenant Colonel
- 24:17Speaker 2: Bivviz from the Pennsylvania State.
- 24:19Speaker 13: Police PSP was made aware of a sighting of Cavalcante
- 24:22Speaker 13: and the East Pikeland area of Chester County. Our investigation
- 24:27Speaker 13: yielded the following occurrences. Sometime during the evening of September ninth,
- 24:32Speaker 13: Cavalcante stool a twenty twenty Ford Transit van from an
- 24:35Speaker 13: area approximately three quarters of a mile from the perimeter
- 24:39Speaker 13: we were maintaining near the Longwood Gardens property. The keys
- 24:43Speaker 13: had been left in the van and the theft was
- 24:45Speaker 13: not noticed until psp canvassed the area looking for a
- 24:49Speaker 13: possible stool and vehicle after a report of a sighting
- 24:53Speaker 13: of Cavalcante in the East Pikeland area. It was determined
- 24:57Speaker 13: Cavalcante used the van and traveled to.
- 24:59Speaker 2: That area and more listen.
- 25:02Speaker 13: At nine point fifty two pm, he attempted to contact
- 25:05Speaker 13: an individual he had known and worked with several years prior.
- 25:10Speaker 13: Cavalcante spoke with the individual via a video doorbell at
- 25:13Speaker 13: that residence and inquired about meeting with that individual. The
- 25:17Speaker 13: individual was at dinner with his family and did not
- 25:20Speaker 13: respond to meet Cavalcante. Cavalcante left that residence. The homeowner
- 25:25Speaker 13: eventually returned home, reviewed his doorbell recording, and called local police.
- 25:32Speaker 13: PSP received a call about this sighting and the next
- 25:35Speaker 13: at twelve thirty in the morning on September tenth, twenty
- 25:40Speaker 13: twenty three. This was our first indication that Cavalcante had
- 25:44Speaker 13: been able to travel from the area of Longwood Gardens.
- 25:47Speaker 2: So he gets away from the Longwood Gardens area. I
- 25:51Speaker 2: want to bring in IRV Brandt, Senior Inspector with US
- 25:54Speaker 2: Marshall Service International Investigations Chief Inspector DJ, author of solo
- 26:01Speaker 2: shot cursonably Stone, also flying solo top of the world.
- 26:07Speaker 2: IRV Brant has handled escape pees all around the world
- 26:12Speaker 2: that go on the run, So we know he leaves
- 26:15Speaker 2: that perimeter, IRV Brant, But take a listen to what
- 26:19Speaker 2: more wa've learned.
- 26:20Speaker 13: After an extensive search, the vehicle was discovered abandoned in
- 26:24Speaker 13: a field behind a barn in East Nantmeil Township at
- 26:28Speaker 13: ten forty am. Investigators have been searching the area around
- 26:32Speaker 13: that location since that time.
- 26:34Speaker 21: Cavalcante has brought the search here to Phoenixville and with
- 26:37Speaker 21: it fear. Look at those surveillance pictures overnight, good look
- 26:40Speaker 21: at them.
- 26:41Speaker 1: You can see troopers.
- 26:42Speaker 21: Say this is Cavalcante changing his appearance, clean shaven, with
- 26:45Speaker 21: a green or yellow hooded sweatshirt and black baseball cap.
- 26:49Speaker 21: He is still wearing green prison pants at this time.
- 26:52Speaker 21: This sighting sparked an active search. At about four am.
- 26:56Speaker 22: State police believe sometimes Saturday, the fugitive stole a refrigerated
- 27:01Speaker 22: van with keys inside from a local dairy farm. Just
- 27:04Speaker 22: after five this morning, state police realized the vehicle was
- 27:08Speaker 22: stolen from the Bailey's dairy farm and at ten forty
- 27:11Speaker 22: in the morning it was discovered in East Nantmeil Township.
- 27:15Speaker 2: So let me understand this r Brandt. He's managed to
- 27:17Speaker 2: steal refrigerated dairy truck having the keys in them.
- 27:21Speaker 15: That's correct, Nancy. And you'll notice he used the vehicle
- 27:25Speaker 15: until they ran out of gas. The search for an
- 27:30Speaker 15: escape prisoner and I've done hundreds of investigations into prison escapes.
- 27:38Speaker 15: They're all unique, but this one is particularly unique because
- 27:44Speaker 15: he's a Brazilian, hasn't He wasn't born in this country,
- 27:47Speaker 15: he wasn't raised in this country. He doesn't know anything
- 27:50Speaker 15: about this country. He only knows the area that he's from. There.
- 27:56Speaker 15: English is in his first language. He's people will say, well,
- 28:00Speaker 15: he's out now, he got a vehicle. He's long gone
- 28:03Speaker 15: Long Gone, Towear Long Gone to Weear where people speak Portuguese,
- 28:08Speaker 15: where he knows people. He's got to have a plan. Now,
- 28:12Speaker 15: at first the plan was let's escape from prison. I'll
- 28:15Speaker 15: probably get shot going over the wall, but if I
- 28:18Speaker 15: make it, I'll figure out something after that. Now that
- 28:22Speaker 15: he's out and he's free, he went. The first thing
- 28:26Speaker 15: that he did was went to former cod workers in
- 28:31Speaker 15: the same area. And you with to say, well, that's ridiculous,
- 28:34Speaker 15: you know, why would he do that? Why not just
- 28:37Speaker 15: get away? Well, he has no other choice. It's his
- 28:41Speaker 15: only means of support. And the longer he stays out,
- 28:44Speaker 15: and Nancy, this is highly concerning, is he's going to
- 28:48Speaker 15: become more and more desperate and he is going to
- 28:52Speaker 15: take risk. He's going to try to rob someone. He's
- 28:56Speaker 15: going to need money, he's going to need a vehicle.
- 28:59Speaker 15: He's going to target people. He's going to target someone elderly,
- 29:02Speaker 15: he's going to target a woman, he's going to target
- 29:05Speaker 15: someone alone. And because he's going to need a vehicle.
- 29:08Speaker 15: And then eventually he's going to get a hold of
- 29:11Speaker 15: a weapon. And he's not he's a killer. He's not
- 29:15Speaker 15: afraid to use a weapon to get what he wants,
- 29:19Speaker 15: and one of your guests said, he's probably not going
- 29:23Speaker 15: to be taken alive. I agree, He's probably not going
- 29:27Speaker 15: to be taken alive. This is an extremely dangerous person.
- 29:34Speaker 15: I can't stress that enough. Anyone with any information they
- 29:38Speaker 15: need to contact police. They need to help law enforcement
- 29:42Speaker 15: get this person into custody. And the sooner the better.
- 29:46Speaker 2: The way you just broke that down or Brant is chilling.
- 29:51Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the next lady coming out of the
- 29:54Speaker 2: target and the parking deck with her kid and her
- 30:00Speaker 2: arms full of stuff, or the grocery store, or an
- 30:03Speaker 2: elderly person getting in their car or going into their home.
- 30:07Speaker 2: It will be child's play for him to overtake a
- 30:12Speaker 2: lone female or a female with a child, or an
- 30:16Speaker 2: elderly And we see also his changing. He will shoot
- 30:22Speaker 2: you dead, he will stab you dead. It doesn't matter
- 30:25Speaker 2: if he knows you, or if you're his lover for
- 30:28Speaker 2: months on end and her children are watching. It doesn't matter.
- 30:32Speaker 2: You were earlier hearing our friends at six ABC and
- 30:36Speaker 2: NBC twelve in the Search for This Guy.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 30:58Speaker 2: Doctor Priabantaje is joining me. Bord certified forensic pathologists at
- 31:02Speaker 2: Anchor Forensic Pathology Consulting and that's where you can find
- 31:06Speaker 2: her Anchor Forensic Pathology dot com. Doctor Pria, you have
- 31:10Speaker 2: handled so many homicide cases. Very often we see people,
- 31:16Speaker 2: especially those that are not as they say, organized killers,
- 31:21Speaker 2: like they have a plan. This is a disorganized killer.
- 31:25Speaker 2: He is trying to survive and be on the run.
- 31:28Speaker 2: He doesn't have any particular mo. Have you witnessed that before,
- 31:32Speaker 2: doctor Priya.
- 31:33Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean he's it's been said number of times.
- 31:36Speaker 23: But he's especially dangerous now because before he had like
- 31:40Speaker 23: an emotional connection to his you know, the girlfriend who
- 31:44Speaker 23: we killed, and look how heinously he murdered her right
- 31:47Speaker 23: thirty eight times, stabbing in front of kids. Now the
- 31:51Speaker 23: desperations even added on top. I'm terrified of what he's
- 31:55Speaker 23: going to do because it's no hold barred.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Now, Guys, it's not the first time. Take listen to
- 32:02Speaker 2: our cut thirty two our friensic Kiro.
- 32:06Speaker 24: Understandably, security is extremely tight here at the Pensacola City
- 32:09Speaker 24: Jailed on the second floor of this building, Ted Bundy
- 32:12Speaker 24: is under constant guard. Authorities are very well aware of
- 32:16Speaker 24: the fact that Bundy has twice escaped from jail, and
- 32:18Speaker 24: now that they know who he is, they are not
- 32:20Speaker 24: about to let him slip away again. When he was
- 32:23Speaker 24: arrested shortly after midnight on Wednesday, he was just considered
- 32:26Speaker 24: a belligerent speeder.
- 32:28Speaker 6: He fought with.
- 32:28Speaker 24: Arresting officer David Lee when Lee stopped him for speeding.
- 32:32Speaker 24: Only late last night, following FBI fingerprint identification did Pensacola
- 32:35Speaker 24: Police learn they had captured one of the most wanted and,
- 32:38Speaker 24: according to the FBI, most dangerous criminals in the country.
- 32:41Speaker 2: This case not once but twy Once he escaped through
- 32:47Speaker 2: the ceiling of jail. The second time he jumped out
- 32:50Speaker 2: a window of the law library in a cournhouse. It's
- 32:55Speaker 2: not just Bundy, remember this guy. Take listen to ABC
- 32:59Speaker 2: and our cut thirty four.
- 33:00Speaker 25: A man who famously escaped two Mexican prisons. El Choppo's
- 33:04Speaker 25: seen here slipping beneath his prison cell, going through the
- 33:07Speaker 25: floor of the shower, disappearing into the elaborate mile long tunnel.
- 33:11Speaker 25: We saw that tunnel firsthand in Mexico.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Even the motorbike that was waiting for.
- 33:16Speaker 12: Him in the tunnel to escape.
- 33:17Speaker 2: This is the house where he just walked into and disappeared.
- 33:22Speaker 25: But months later, Mexican authorities would storm in Chopler's hiding,
- 33:27Speaker 25: grabbing him outside one of his tunnels, turning him over
- 33:30Speaker 25: to the US.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Guys El CHAPO. Incredible example of an escape. Ted Bundy
- 33:38Speaker 2: escapes twice. But what about one of the biggest Emma's
- 33:42Speaker 2: notorious jail house guard fails. Okay, wait for it, I
- 33:50Speaker 2: cut thirty five CBC.
- 33:52Speaker 26: The New York Times is citing several unnamed law enforcement
- 33:56Speaker 26: and prison officials who are saying that the two people
- 33:59Speaker 26: go guarding Epstein's unit fell asleep the night that Epstein
- 34:03Speaker 26: apparently took his own life, and that they didn't check
- 34:06Speaker 26: on him for three hours when they were actually supposed
- 34:09Speaker 26: to be doing those checks.
- 34:10Speaker 2: That's right, Epstein is dead and along with him all
- 34:15Speaker 2: the information of any code defendants or other victims. Yeah,
- 34:19Speaker 2: because the guards fell asleep and were shopping online? Is
- 34:25Speaker 2: that what happened in Kamacante's escape? And of course there's more.
- 34:30Speaker 2: How could you not notice a guy who's almost seven
- 34:34Speaker 2: feet tall is having a sex affair with another warden? Hello,
- 34:39Speaker 2: Casey White cut thirty one.
- 34:41Speaker 27: Waay, after more than seventy two hours of this, now
- 34:45Speaker 27: major crime investigation by the US Marshals and state other
- 34:50Speaker 27: federal partners, is that there is now a.
- 34:52Speaker 12: Warrant out for Vicky White, a warrant for her role
- 34:56Speaker 12: in this escape. They now say that she was involved
- 34:59Speaker 12: in the escape and they have a warrant for her
- 35:01Speaker 12: arrest as well as they continue their search for this
- 35:04Speaker 12: accused murderer, Casey White here in Laudreale County now a
- 35:08Speaker 12: man hunt that reaches across the entire country. The sheriff
- 35:12Speaker 12: confirming for US that they now believe the two had
- 35:15Speaker 12: some sort of romantic relationship and that Vicky White was
- 35:19Speaker 12: involved in this escape.
- 35:20Speaker 2: But nobody noticed they were having sex. And then this
- 35:24Speaker 2: whole king it gets out, Casey White gets out with
- 35:28Speaker 2: her help, and of course deaths ensue, and of course
- 35:33Speaker 2: there's the prison same stress. We can't forget about her.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Cut thirty seven CBS six.
- 35:38Speaker 28: The former prison seemstress who helped two convicted murderers escape
- 35:42Speaker 28: from the maximum security prison and Dani Mora, has now
- 35:45Speaker 28: been released. Joyce Mitchell admitted to smuggling hack saw blades
- 35:50Speaker 28: to inmates Richard Matt and David Sweat that they used
- 35:53Speaker 28: to cut through cell walls at the Clinton Correctional Facility
- 35:56Speaker 28: back in twenty fifteen. There escape sparked a week's long
- 36:00Speaker 28: young manhunt that ended when authorities shot and killed Nat
- 36:03Speaker 28: and shot and recaptured Sweat. Mitchell's initial sentence was up
- 36:08Speaker 28: to seven years behind bars.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Because no one was paying attention that the prison seemstress
- 36:15Speaker 2: was going in a closet and having sex with the
- 36:19Speaker 2: killer and they escaped. Once again a prison fail. Here's
- 36:25Speaker 2: another thing to take into account. Alexis Terrestchik joining me
- 36:28Speaker 2: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. This guy, when he
- 36:32Speaker 2: escaped from another homicide in Brazil, he lived in the jungle.
- 36:37Speaker 2: He survived in the jungle. Reminds me of Eric Rudolph,
- 36:40Speaker 2: the Olympic bomber who stayed on the down load for
- 36:44Speaker 2: three years along the Appalachian Trail before he blew up
- 36:48Speaker 2: to abortion clinics. Remember that shrapnel hitting my investigator during
- 36:54Speaker 2: that time. This guy has lived in the jungle, Alexis Terreschuk.
- 36:59Speaker 7: He has, and the thing is and he knows how
- 37:01Speaker 7: to survive because he has broken into one house that
- 37:04Speaker 7: we know up so far, and you know what he
- 37:06Speaker 7: stole from there?
- 37:07Speaker 10: He stole a bag of fruit He's not even really
- 37:10Speaker 10: stealing money or jewelry to sell or anything like that.
- 37:12Speaker 10: He is stealing stuff because he knows what he needs
- 37:14Speaker 10: to survive, and it's fruit. He didn't take the you know,
- 37:18Speaker 10: free does or anything like that. So he is very
- 37:20Speaker 10: aware of how you can live in the wilderness.
- 37:23Speaker 2: Hey, alexas he's changed, we know he's changed his appearance.
- 37:27Speaker 2: He's popped up on either one or two ring doorbell
- 37:31Speaker 2: cams and a hunter's cam that's set up. You know,
- 37:35Speaker 2: you put up a hunter's cam in it's motion activated.
- 37:38Speaker 2: He's caught on a hunter's cam out in the woods.
- 37:40Speaker 2: How has he changed his appearance, Alexis he so when he.
- 37:43Speaker 10: Escaped from prison he had a beard and a mustache
- 37:46Speaker 10: and now he is completely clean.
- 37:48Speaker 29: Shaven, completely So he clearly had access to a raider
- 37:52Speaker 29: of some sort of running water which he could find
- 37:54Speaker 29: in the wilderness if there was a lake or a
- 37:57Speaker 29: river or something. But he definitely looks very different.
- 38:01Speaker 2: That's a really good point, alexis, how the hey, did
- 38:03Speaker 2: he get a clean shave? How else has he changed
- 38:06Speaker 2: his appearance? Where did he go to get a clean shave?
- 38:09Speaker 2: We know that he has gotten into refrigerated dairy truck
- 38:12Speaker 2: keys in it. But now somehow he's managed to shave
- 38:17Speaker 2: and change his appearance. I'm looking right at him. He
- 38:21Speaker 2: looked right up at the hunter camp. Did he have
- 38:25Speaker 2: those clothes? Because he's wearing a hoodie with a baseball
- 38:29Speaker 2: hat under it, and he's clean shaven.
- 38:31Speaker 7: And he's wearing prison pants and when he escapes he
- 38:35Speaker 7: was wearing he wasn't wearing those, he was wearing the
- 38:36Speaker 7: blue shorts. So did somebody you know, from prison, did
- 38:41Speaker 7: he sneak out the clothes in his in his uniform?
- 38:44Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably, and the prison guard wouldn't have known anything.
- 38:47Speaker 2: Okay to you, Douglas McGregor, geographic profiler, look into your
- 38:53Speaker 2: crystal ball, drawn all your education and expertise. Where's this
- 38:58Speaker 2: skuy headed best?
- 39:00Speaker 6: At the moment, he's still in the life cycle of
- 39:03Speaker 6: a fugitive, which it's not linear, it's cyclical. And after
- 39:07Speaker 6: looking for resources up in the Phoenixville area he didn't
- 39:10Speaker 6: find them, law enforcement closed in and he reverted back
- 39:14Speaker 6: to stage one, which is survival and getting the van.
- 39:16Speaker 6: So now he's going to be looking for resources again.
- 39:19Speaker 6: So law enforcement's going to have to do that social
- 39:22Speaker 6: network analysis and they're going to have to see where
- 39:24Speaker 6: he's going to go next. Is he going to go
- 39:26Speaker 6: towards a familiar community again Portuguese speaking Brazilian? Is he
- 39:32Speaker 6: going to go towards another acquaintance. I mean he went
- 39:36Speaker 6: to Virginia before, and there's an acquaintance slash family member
- 39:40Speaker 6: down in Virginia, so he may go there, but he
- 39:43Speaker 6: is going to be looking for those resources because the stealing,
- 39:47Speaker 6: the robbery, theft, it's all that's just a short term
- 39:51Speaker 6: solution and it's risky.
- 39:54Speaker 2: Yes, very very risky. And or Brandt remember the Fulton
- 39:59Speaker 2: County court house killer actually went into a woman's home.
- 40:04Speaker 2: He killed people along the way, but he went into
- 40:06Speaker 2: a woman's home and held her hostage for food and
- 40:10Speaker 2: stayed in there for a period of time. What's his
- 40:13Speaker 2: next move.
- 40:14Speaker 15: Of Brant Nancy, That's what you said earlier about it
- 40:18Speaker 15: being chilling. I only see this unfolding one way, and
- 40:23Speaker 15: it's badly. I did the Jody Thompson prison escape investigation
- 40:29Speaker 15: where he escaped from prison in Northern Nevada, and I
- 40:33Speaker 15: tracked him in Las Vegas as he was robbing bars.
- 40:38Speaker 20: And I set up surveillance on every associate he had,
- 40:44Speaker 20: every family member he had and then ended up in
- 40:48Speaker 20: a chase with two teams of SWAT, with helicopters, with.
- 40:53Speaker 15: Canine units, and him doing a home invasion and taking hostages.
- 41:00Speaker 15: What I expect here is law enforcement's going to inclose in,
- 41:04Speaker 15: He's going to become desperate, he's gonna end up going
- 41:07Speaker 15: into somebody's home, and he's gonna end up and you're
- 41:09Speaker 15: going to end up with a hostage situation where he's
- 41:12Speaker 15: likely going to die.
- 41:14Speaker 2: There is a twenty thousand dollars reward for information leading
- 41:18Speaker 2: to the capture of Danello Cavalcanti, a double killer that
- 41:23Speaker 2: we know of. Likely targets females alone or with children
- 41:28Speaker 2: or the elderly. Tip lines seven one, seven, five six
- 41:33Speaker 2: two two nine eight seven eight hundred four seven two
- 41:38Speaker 2: eight four seven seven one of the best tip lines
- 41:42Speaker 2: the US Marshals eight seven, seven nine two six eight
- 41:46Speaker 2: three three two repeat toll free eight seven seven nine
- 41:51Speaker 2: two six eight three three to two. Cavalcante you can run,
- 41:58Speaker 2: but you can't hide. Goodbye friends,