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Episode 22: Scott Peterson (D'Orazio-Peterson LLP) · Buying Local Podcast

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  Hello everyone. Mike Nelson here with buying
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  local. We're actually doing a simulcast
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  for both Glens Falls and Saratoga today.
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  I am with Scott Peterson from Derazzio Peterson law firm in
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  Saratoga. And Scott, you guys do a few
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  different things and you cover a kind of a territory Warren,
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  Washington, Saratoga counties because that's kind of where you
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  live, but it and it kind of goes out from there too.
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  So maybe you know let's just take a minute tell you know tell
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  everyone you know who you are and what you guys do over there.
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  All right. Well, first thanks for having us
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  on, having me on. So we are kind of a, I don't
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  like to use the word boutique, but a small firm that handles
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  primarily employment discrimination and serious
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  personal energy cases for kind of a small number of clients.
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  And we handle those cases like you said, locally in our
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  neighborhood. We're based in Saratoga Springs,
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  Saratoga, Washington, Warren Counties, upstate New York and
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  our practice has kind of taken us.
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  Throughout the state and actually into Vermont over the
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  last couple of years, we we try to focus on helping a very small
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  number of people with pretty serious problems.
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  And you know, because of that we have intentionally kept kind of
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  a small practice and we are, you know, we're pretty selective
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  about the cases and the clients that we take on, but we give a
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  very personal level of attention to our personalized level of
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  attention to our clients. So when you say employment
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  discrimination? Right.
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  What does that mean? I think most of the time we're
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  telling people what it doesn't mean actually because we feel
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  the very high volume of calls of people who have had something go
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  wrong in the workplace and they call us New York is a very
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  employer friendly state, so. Many of the things that go on in
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  the workplace that people, you know, that happen to people
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  aren't illegal. They might not be nice, they
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  might not be appropriate, but that doesn't make them illegal.
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  So the kinds of cases that we handle are fairly severe
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  instances of things like really serious sexual harassment where
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  someone has. Been going through something for
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  typically a long period of time. They've made complaints to
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  someone running up the ladder, It continues to go along and
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  they're either forced out or they have to quit or they're
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  fired. Typically it's someone who's
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  working in a fairly high level position.
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  The kind of things that people often say to me, this stuff
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  doesn't really happen anymore, right?
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  And I'm like people are people. I know that's actually what it
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  literally what I was thinking I was like, I can't even believe
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  that that still goes on in today's world like.
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  And the best example, you know, the me too, all the stories that
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  came out of me too, really exposed a lot of what we see
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  behind the scenes to kind of the the masses.
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  And people were shocked when they saw people like, you know,
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  in positions of power, Matt Lauer, Harvey Weinstein, those
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  kinds of people. And they're like, how does this
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  stuff go on? I can't believe it.
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  And it like I said, I think there's a, there's an element of
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  human nature to it that you know, we've the laws have become
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  more strict. The education around these
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  issues has become significantly greater over the years, but to
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  some degree people still do things against their own
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  self-interest, you know, knowing that they're wrong and this kind
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  of stuff still happens and we see it all the time.
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  So that's, you know, that's one example of the kinds of
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  employment discrimination or sexual harassment cases.
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  We also do a lot of work with people who have disabilities.
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  They find themselves asking for or needing leave for one reason
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  or another. They come back, their job is
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  gone, or they're fired or something along those lines in
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  retaliation. These days, I'd say the primary
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  kind of cases that we work on are related to disabilities,
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  medical conditions, medical leave, and then you get the
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  sexual harassment and then we do a fair bit of work for people
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  who go out on military leave, come back and find themselves
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  frozen or without a job, so. Much of it is not the kind of
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  splashy headline stuff that you see on television.
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  Some of the sexual harassment stuff does really make your
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  eyes, you know, makes your head want to explode the fact that it
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  goes on. But some of it's much more
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  subtle and it's it's, you know, helping people who have worked
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  hard. Most of them are pretty highly
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  educated. And most people who call us who
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  we ultimately take out as clients, or many of them are,
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  they've never worked with a lawyer before.
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  They've never had. They they never thought they'd
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  be in this kind of a situation. So that's kind of our.
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  That's our employment side of the practice.
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  And so there's the employment side and then there's the
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  personal injury side. So tell us a little bit about
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  that, because I think everybody knows or thinks they know, but
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  they don't actually know. So tell us about the personal
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  injury. Stuff.
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  So I kind of equate what we do on the personal injury space
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  too. If you think about, you want to
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  go out to eat at a restaurant, right?
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  A couple weekends ago, on Friday night, I went with my kids and
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  went to Chipotle. And Saturday night my wife and I
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  went to I was just telling you the pharmacy up in West Falls,
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  we they were both meals we ate at both of them but they were
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  very different experiences, right.
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  And so when we when we kind of set out to open our firm, we
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  thought about what kind of experience do we want to give
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  the clients who work with us and you know it's the Chipotle
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  experience exists is out there. I don't fault you know any
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  anybody for doing what they do but there are there are firms
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  that handle. Lots of volume, lots of clients,
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  lots of people come through the doors.
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  You might see them all, you know, on television or all over
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  the place. We decided we wanted to be more
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  of an experience. Like when I went to pharmacy, I
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  sat at the chef's counter, I talked to the chef.
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  There were six or eight people there and I got a very
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  personalized level of experience.
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  And so when we decided that this is the kind of practice we were
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  going to do, you know, 12 years ago, we decided that we wanted
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  to give that personalized level of experience.
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  So the clients who come to us. You know, whether it's they've
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  been in a car accident or they've had a, you know, a
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  misdiagnosis or a really bad error in a facility or a
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  healthcare facility or a nursing home, they typically are the
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  kind of people who will do a lot of research, who will talk to
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  friends and you know, people that they trust in their lives
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  and they're not going to kind of call the first person that they
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  see that they're, they're typically hesitant to think
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  about. Making a claim for something
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  wrong that happened to them. And so we always, I kind of
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  always explain people in the process.
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  You know most people who get hurt, they they may initially
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  think about is there anything I can do about it.
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  Then they kind of work on their treatment and then they think
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  about is this the kind of thing I want to do right.
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  And so the conversations that we have often revolve around, well,
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  there are many ways to approach something like this.
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  There's many ways to try to help yourself and your family without
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  you know. Getting yourself in the paper
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  and making flashy headlines. And so a lot of people come to
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  us, they they want to do things discreetly, they want to do
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  things professionally. Many of them are professionals
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  themselves. And so they, you know, they want
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  that sort of highly personalized level of kind of care and
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  attention. And so that's kind of what we
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  give them. That's a great analogy, by the
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  way, with pharmacy and Chipotle. They're both good.
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  They're both great. Yeah, absolutely.
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  But yeah, that's a completely different product, completely
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  different level service. Shout out to those guys at the
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  pharmacy. They do a great job.
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  The food's amazing. Amazing.
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  The whole experience is fantastic.
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  Yeah. And we're in Saratoga and
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  there's lots of great restaurants, but that's up there
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  with, you know, any of the best ones up there.
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  Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Paul Smith, Renovo Real Estate
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  With over 3 decades of experience in construction, Paul
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  brings a unique perspective to the real estate industry.
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  His construction background helps his clients throughout the
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  buying and selling process. Buyers are able to leverage his
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  knowledge to identify potential issues that could be costly down
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  the road or even get a better price on their new home.
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  If you are buying or selling real estate, think of Paul Smith
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  with Renovo Real Estate. On the on the personal injury
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  side, I mean what I really hear you saying is that someone's
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  gone well and really on both sides of your business, right,
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  someone's gone through something that potentially is horrific,
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  right, whether it's a sexual harassment.
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  You know discriminatory thing at work, you know or if it's a slip
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  and fall or some some sort of accident or whatever it is And
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  then you guys are really there to kind of help them through the
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  process to make sure that they. And I'm trying to remember how
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  you the last time we spoke you phrased it in a specific way
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  that really made me. I had never thought about it
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  that way and now I'm trying to remember what how you phrased it
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  but something along the lines of.
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  I'm kind of trying to blink on this.
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  Well, so we kind of have a philosophy of and it's on our
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  website of educate and power and guide.
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  And our whole approach to the process is we want people who
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  are going through these situations to understand what
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  this world looks like because it's so far into them and it's.
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  It's extremely confusing and it's extremely intimidating.
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  And so our sort of mindset and approach is we want you to be as
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  educated and as comfortable as you need to be to understand how
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  this works and what you want to achieve and how to get there as
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  opposed to. Somebody walking in my office
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  and me banging on the table and flipping the table over and
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  saying I'm calling the Times Union and I'm calling this and
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  we're doing that. And maybe that's not exactly
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  like in their best interest. Not everybody wants that, nor do
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  they even know that that's something that's available.
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  Yeah. And I mean, I'd imagine that
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  some of these people are a bit reticent to.
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  Would go through this process, right?
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  I can't imagine it's an easy process.
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  And I think, I mean, I think if I was about to go through this
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  process, I'd like, you know, I don't want people to think I'm
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  trying to get something for nothing or I'm trying to work
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  the system or any of that stuff, right.
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  And so like what do you tell those people in those
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  situations? That's a great question.
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  We're sort of harmed by the headlines around like, you know,
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  the hot coffee case or you know, cases that.
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  You know, or a complete joke. And I'm not saying the hot
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  coffee one was that was actually, you know, in in our
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  community. That's actually something that
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  it was so hot that McDonald's I think, changed the standards
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  afterwards. I mean, I've burned myself on
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  hot coffee. Before but but you know so when
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  we when we talk to them about it we we we try to explain it to
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  them in a way that you know your your what happened to you is is
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  very personal to you it. It has nothing to do with what
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  you see everywhere else. Nor does it have to be something
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  that kind of going back to what I said before, that makes the
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  front page of, you know, the news for being, you know,
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  something that offends people or gets them upset.
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  The long and the short of it is that, you know, let's use an
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  example of a man or a woman who's in their 40s, has kids and
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  is a professional and they, you know, they, maybe they go into
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  the hospital and they. They prescribed the wrong
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  medication or they have surgery in the wrong body.
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  You know, something that we see that, you know, gets kind of
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  swept under the rug typically. And now they can't work right.
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  And now they're, you know, their their family's losing out and
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  they, they can't pay their medical bills and their kids,
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  college tuition and money is gone.
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  And so for them, it quickly becomes less about.
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  Worrying about what? What that you know that that
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  perception is more about how am I going to get through this.
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  And so our our kind of job and goal is to to try to show them
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  that, look, this is about one of the most serious things that can
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  happen to your family and your life.
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  And there is, there's a way through this without you having
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  to worry about what other people are thinking.
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  And you know it's it's sort of the situation where you know
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  most of the people who call us say.
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  I'm not the kind of person who sues.
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  That's like the first thing that.
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  Right. And I always say, you know,
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  everybody says that until they find themselves in that
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  position. It's very easy to sort of take
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  shots at the guys in the billboards and, you know, the
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  people with the silly commercials.
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  I get it, you know, And but until something like that
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  happens to you, you know, and when it does, it becomes a lot
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  more serious and a lot more more personal.
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  And so that's the conversation that we have.
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  It's. Sort of explaining to them that
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  it's OK to be doing this right and it's it's OK to be thinking
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  about this. And you thinking about this does
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  not make you someone who belongs on a, you know, a cheesy ad or,
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  you know, a funny, a funny video or, you know, getting talked
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  about on the news. That's a very different
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  scenario. So that's the kind of
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  conversations we like to have. Yeah, it's it's interesting to
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  you know because in some situations where there is
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  neglect or. I don't want to say malice, but
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  there there was something that happened because someone wasn't
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  doing what they're, you know, like I think of the, you operate
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  on the wrong body part or whatever, you know, So there's
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  obviously a problem there and that person suing the
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  organization that did that, they're potentially preventing
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  that from ever happening again. And I like, I don't think that's
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  something and I only think that way because of one of our
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  previous conversations. I wouldn't have thought that
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  way. Otherwise I'd be in the mode of.
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  You know, we just, we live in such a litigious society and you
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  know, everybody wants to sue for everything.
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  And a lot of lawsuits are, you know, in my humble opinion and
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  I'm not a lawyer. You know what?
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  There's a lot of them are just silly, you know, a lot of things
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  that are going on and legally are silly.
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  And it's like, you know, I wouldn't want to be a part of
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  that system At the same time if something horrific like that
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  happened and had a huge negative impact on my life and my kids
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  life. And potentially it could happen
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  to other people. Unless I step forward, I
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  definitely, I mean it's needs to be done.
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  Well, so yeah. And I've sort of two responses
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  to that. Yeah.
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  The 1st is that what the public doesn't necessarily see and know
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  is that. The standard is actually it's
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  fairly difficult to succeed in a lot of these lawsuits.
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  Yeah, in particular involving the medical profession.
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  But just in general, you know the the, the standards are high.
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  Judges dismiss cases all the time and just because you read
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  something in the headlines doesn't necessarily mean that
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  it's accurate, right. So I always, I'm always talking
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  in on our podcast in our blogs and about.
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  What you see on television, what you see in the news, is probably
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  not accurate relative to what actually happens.
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  You might see, oh, there was a $50 million jury verdict.
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  What it doesn't tell you is, well, there's actually only, you
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  know, $1,000,000 of insurance coverage and that claim settled
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  for 1,000,000, not 50. Or it got reversed on appeal or
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  it got reduced like that stuff you don't see.
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  So the first part of it is it's actually pretty difficult to
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  succeed. And our standards are, you know,
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  pretty high. When we select cases, we want to
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  make sure that. It's there was something really
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  bad did happen could actually prove it And the 2nd to your
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  point is, and I I didn't see this as much or I didn't
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  appreciate this as much until I got really into this world but
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  it actually does affect change and you know it's for better or
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  worse in the capitalist world or society.
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  You know monies or companies and businesses they need to make
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  money right and they will do things that will typically help
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  them generate profits and. I think the system that is
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  designed in our world of the litigation system does allow you
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  to force change where it might not otherwise occur, and it's
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  through somebody's wallet, right?
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  I've had multiple cases over the over the years where pretty
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  egregious things have happened, whether they were really bad
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  sexual harassment or egregious errors in hospitals or
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  healthcare facilities where I know.
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  That after the case policies changed, right.
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  People were fired. People who should have been gone
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  a long time ago in cases of sexual harassment or you know,
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  we've had cases where there were no constraints around the
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  behavior of people in the workplace.
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  People were just, you know, women were just trying to go to
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  work and do their job. And because there were no
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  constraints, these these environments were were created
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  that were absolutely ridiculous if you had a daughter or a wife.
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  You would. You would never.
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  Would not. Want them there?
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  Yeah. And and we know that when we
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  filed lawsuits and took depositions and asked really
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  uncomfortable questions after that those those things were
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  gone. And I'm not saying they were
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  eliminated, but they were better.
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  And you know in the in the setting of the healthcare
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  system, you know we've had cases where there was a really
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  egregious misdiagnosis and someone you know maybe went on
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  to to to have a form of cancer that progressed really bad or or
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  something along those lines that.
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  We filed lawsuits and took those depositions.
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  And you can guarantee that that provider or that person didn't
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  make that mistake again, right? And so the system is designed
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  this way. It's a positive outcome at
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  least. It is.
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  And from a negative circumstance it.
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  Is it's the best you can do cuz you can't get someone.
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  You know, you can't even ring the bell and so a bit of it's
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  you know Monday morning quarterbacking, but that's the
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  way the system's designed. You know there are, This is why
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  people and companies have insurance.
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  And so you know we're the system is hopefully set up in a way
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  that it does help kind of move the ball forward and kind of
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  lead us towards some measure of progress as possible.
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  That's at least the idealistic way that we try to look at it.
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  Yeah, it's. It's fine too, because I
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  remember from our discussion well, we, you know, what we
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  should talk about right now is your podcast.
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  Right, Yeah. So, so you and what?
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  We haven't even talked about the fact that your wife is your
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  partner in your law firm, and you and I'm sorry, I can't
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  remember your wife's name. Giovanna.
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  Giovanna, you 2 have a podcast we do called Talk Lex.
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  Which Lex is the Latin for law. Is that correct?
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  Yeah, that's correct. Brilliant.
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  So tell us about the podcast. Yeah.
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  So that was my wife always jokes that podcasting was like perfect
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  for my personality like the talk.
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  And so Giovanna handles she handles most of our much of our
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  employment discrimination practice and and so we had this
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  idea to try to make a podcast that would bring some common
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  sense discussion to legal issues in the news and you know legal
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  issues that people kind of face every day that that.
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  You know, like I said, it's a very confusing world.
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  And if you, you know, when you see how the how legislature
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  works and how the government works, they're the ones writing
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  the laws. So you kind of understand why
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  much of this is. Yeah.
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  But also, you know, the, the reporting on a lot of it is not
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  always accurate, right. The stories you read, like I
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  said, aren't always. An accurate depiction of what's
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  happening and we thought maybe people would be interested in
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  hearing about that and hearing you know what actually is going
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  on here. And you know when you read this,
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  what does that actually mean? And so we try to talk about kind
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  of legal issues in the news, kind of break them down for in a
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  common sense way and also bring on some guests in other areas of
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  law. So we have had adoption
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  attorneys and matrimonial attorneys and.
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  The state planning attorneys and people who can kind of break
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  down for for the average person, what does this actually, what's
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  this world actually look like? You know, hopefully people won't
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  necessarily have to get involved in these kinds of things, but
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  the reality is that most people eventually need a lawyer for one
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  of those things. It's a good idea to kind of have
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  an idea of how the system works, I think.
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  I think transparency and education is is really critical
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  and important and I think. The more people know, the
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  better. I don't think it's.
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  I don't think it's benefits us as lawyers to hide what we do or
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  to make it seem like it's this, you know, facade of of, you
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  know, secrecy. I think, you know, explain to
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  people, tell him how it works. Tell him what the system looks
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  You guys had. I'm trying to think of the
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  episodes. Did you do the Johnny Depp
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  trial? We did, yeah.
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  That was our that's our most listened to episode.
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  Is it really? Yeah, I mean it's interesting
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  stuff. I mean that how much viewership
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  that that that case in general got.
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  It is, you know, it's it's funny what the public latches on to,
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  right? I say this as someone who's
• 21:11
  named Scott Peterson, who's been getting.
• 21:15
  Listen, I forgot all about that. And.
• 21:18
  Then one of the guys brought it up before the show.
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  I'm like, oh, I didn't even think about that.
• 21:22
  I mean, I'm not kidding you. At least three times a week
• 21:25
  somebody makes a comment about that.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  And it's I. It started when I was in law
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  school the the the case happened when I was so and that's almost
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  20 years ago and. When I started dating Jovanna, I
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  was, I had just graduated law school and and she's got two
• 21:40
  brothers who, you know, we're all the kind of guys who like to
• 21:44
  get on each other. Bus.
• 21:45
  Chops they've they've been busting me on the name ever
• 21:48
  since and very early on she's like, you know, you got one
• 21:50
  chance to change your name and I didn't do it and I should have.
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  So, man, that's funny that yeah, they must have had a lot of fun
• 21:58
  with you, you know, and their sister as well.
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  Are you sure you want to date a guy named Scott Peterson?
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  But back to the the. Johnny Depp thing, it's people
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  you know, they love celebrity as you guys know your media and
• 22:11
  when when there's a splashy, you know trial it, it airs all The
• 22:16
  Dirty laundry. And and in fact that actually
• 22:19
  goes to kind of one of your questions before is when someone
• 22:21
  comes to us with, you know let's say they've gotten they're a
• 22:25
  local professional who's gotten in a really bad accident.
• 22:27
  You know they may come to me and say the last thing I want is
• 22:30
  this, I don't want to be. You know, in a courtroom
• 22:34
  testifying, you know, having somebody covering this trial.
• 22:38
  And so that's always part of the consideration of, you know, what
• 22:41
  the path forward is. It's is based upon those kinds
• 22:44
  of things. Now most local cases aren't
• 22:45
  getting that kind of coverage, but they, you know, some local
• 22:48
  cases do for one reason or another grab a headline and
• 22:52
  that's So that's something we're always thinking about too.
• 22:54
  Did did Amber end up getting any, anything turned over?
• 22:59
  Did did he still? Because I remember she was
• 23:01
  trying to appeal and. Yeah, I'm not.
• 23:04
  I'm not quite sure where that is currently.
• 23:06
  I can't even remember. I thought there might have been
• 23:08
  a settlement of the whole thing. I'll tell you, I've never
• 23:10
  laughed so hard watching trial footage as when Johnny Depp was
• 23:14
  on the stand. Unfortunately, It was really
• 23:16
  funny. I know.
• 23:18
  I hope the trials that you go to and sit through are equally
• 23:21
  funny. So they're not you know, it's
• 23:24
  it's it's it's really interesting because the topics
• 23:27
  are serious. Right.
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  And you're dealing with lives and and you know often very, you
• 23:33
  know significant amount of damages.
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  But at the same time you know you're you're, I love trying
• 23:39
  cases. You're you're talking to a jury
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  and you're you're trying to explain this whole system to
• 23:43
  them in a window of, you know, a couple of days, right.
• 23:47
  And you need to connect to them and you're trying to build that
• 23:49
  rapport And so there's you know, I'm a.
• 23:52
  I like to kind of tell jokes off the cuff and and you know
• 23:56
  connect people. So there's there's definitely
• 23:57
  that balance. I will say I've had some trials
• 24:01
  where I've had some fun with some witnesses and it's never
• 24:05
  risen to the Johnny Depp level, but it's been, you know, I
• 24:07
  walked out and and really, really been happy about it.
• 24:10
  That's good, that's good. I also like to have fun and
• 24:12
  crack jokes and but unfortunately doesn't always go
• 24:14
  the direction I want it to go in, so.
• 24:17
  All you got to do is listen to my podcast, you know what I
• 24:19
  mean? It happens at least once an
• 24:21
  episode, I think where I'm just like, Yep, yeah, that was that
• 24:24
  was ill placed. Well, I have a podcast with my
• 24:28
  wife, so you can imagine when I. When I say something stupid.
• 24:31
  She lets you know. She'll let me know.
• 24:33
  Yeah. Does she wait till you hit the
• 24:34
  stop button or do you know does? Usually they'll be a the handle.
• 24:40
  She'll kind of raise a hand and say you can't say that.
• 24:43
  So, well, we'll just keep recording and then I'll.
• 24:46
  Edit it out later. Yeah, it's funny to you say like
• 24:50
  we almost once an episode because we have Mac, our podcast
• 24:54
  producer. He's in the other room and.
• 24:56
  I I'll talk to Mac on these podcasts where and I'll be like
• 24:59
  Mac, if you could just do me a favor and go back and cut that
• 25:01
  out of there. That sounded really not okay or
• 25:05
  silly or still whatever it was, you know, it was a bomb joke or
• 25:08
  whatever. But yesterday we had a podcast
• 25:10
  and I put my foot in my mouth and had to have Mac remove that
• 25:14
  section. Well, nobody will ever hear it.
• 25:17
  So yeah, you know, I mean, hope not anyway.
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  No, it wasn't that bad. But so.
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  Workplace discrimination, personal injury, and anything
• 25:30
  else that you guys really get into.
• 25:31
  No, that's kind of it. You know we do some work for
• 25:36
  some small local businesses. We have sort of a loose policy
• 25:43
  of you know we don't, we don't typically go after small local
• 25:46
  businesses in our cases which is why we're our practice kind of
• 25:49
  takes us all over the state we. You know we picked specific
• 25:53
  cases and you know we we will go, we will pursue them but we
• 25:56
  so we do some work for some small local businesses and you
• 25:59
  know litigation kind of context. But when we when we opened our
• 26:02
  practice we decided that we were going to do only a couple of
• 26:04
  things and try to do them well and try to really limit our our
• 26:08
  base right. We both worked for big firms and
• 26:12
  kind of thought about what we wanted our our practice to look
• 26:15
  like and it was not a. You know, anything that comes in
• 26:18
  the door we're going to do, it's let's let's work with people, we
• 26:21
  like, people we can help and let's work with a small enough
• 26:25
  number that you know, anyone can call us at any time and we can
• 26:27
  tell them exactly what's happening and have a
• 26:29
  conversation with them with our clients.
• 26:31
  So we've we've intentionally not grown into other areas.
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  You know, the options have been there, but you know we've we've
• 26:39
  consciously decided to keep it small and you know.
• 26:44
  A bit of a like a family kind of feeling to it so and it works.
• 26:48
  Interesting, so. Yeah.
• 26:51
  So OK, I'm good. And you've been doing this 20
• 26:57
  years, you said? Yeah, 19 years.
• 27:02
  Do we feel weird to say that? 19 years, Yeah.
• 27:04
  I do feel weird to say that. Something happened the other day
• 27:09
  and I was reminded of, you know, how long it's been and.
• 27:14
  It's just, yeah, if time flies, you know, Yeah, with kids in the
• 27:17
  mix and, you know, busy life and busy practice.
• 27:19
  And the next, you know, 20 years has gone by.
• 27:21
  It's insane. So if people want to find you,
• 27:28
  they want to get a hold of you out of that.
• 27:30
  Where do they go? What are they where you're on
• 27:31
  the the interweb? We're on the interweb.
• 27:34
  We are pretty active on social media.
• 27:37
  We're kind of all these posting up videos kind of.
• 27:40
  Back to our philosophy of, you know, telling people what it,
• 27:43
  you know, giving them information.
• 27:45
  So on Instagram with Derrazio Peterson.
• 27:49
  Facebook Derrazio Peterson. I'm on TikTok now.
• 27:51
  My son was making fun of me yesterday.
• 27:53
  Very nice. SMP Law, I think it is.
• 27:57
  And then our website derraziopeterson.com and our
• 27:59
  podcast talk Lex, which you've nicely mentioned.
• 28:04
  Yeah. And I know that we've got it up
• 28:06
  on all of our websites. Saratoga today, Saratoga
• 28:08
  Business Report, Glens Falls today.
• 28:10
  Are you? But I can't remember off the top
• 28:12
  of my head. Are you on Spotify?
• 28:15
  Apple, Podcast, all all the fun stuff.
• 28:18
  All the places. All the places.
• 28:20
  YouTube We have a YouTube's actually the best place to find
• 28:23
  us because all of our podcasts and videos are up there and you
• 28:26
  know, my kids have a field day with it.
• 28:29
  Of course. Quick YouTube story My we we did
• 28:32
  a, I want to say commercial, but we did a video a few years ago
• 28:36
  with a. Company out of state, very kind
• 28:40
  of like flat, flashy ish lawyer video with some former clients
• 28:46
  and it came out good and we put it up on YouTube and my son or
• 28:50
  my daughter was in their class and they pulled up a video to
• 28:52
  watch for the class and the ad and the ad man, that's amazing.
• 28:57
  And I think they were just like mortified.
• 28:59
  Yeah, of course they were hilarious.
• 29:03
  Begging the question of that, I'm not quite sure that's our
• 29:05
  intended demographic, but you know.
• 29:07
  Maybe some? Could have been adjusted a
• 29:09
  little bit there. Well, listen, appreciate you
• 29:15
  coming on, coming in and for being a community partner up in
• 29:18
  Glens Falls and you know all the things that you do.
• 29:20
  So thanks for being. Here, yeah thanks for having me
• 29:23
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