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Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s Deposition in Edwards and Cassell v. Alan Dershowitz (Part 7) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with the Virginia Roberts deposition against
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  Alan Dershowitz. Question, tell me about the next incident that
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  you can recall of the sex McCauley, do you want
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  to take a break? Virginia? Yes, absolutely, so they go
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  on break real quick, then they come back. Question is
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  there anything else that you can recall that would help
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  you place the time of this sexual encounter of Professor
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  Dershowitz in New York? Answer? No, not that I can remember.
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  Question do you recall whether it was before or after
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  the first time you met redacted? Answer before? Question about
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  how long before you think? Answer? I don't know. It
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  was fairly early on in my relationship with Jeffrey that
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  I first met him, but it was after my training,
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  so I'm not too sure. Question and your training was
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  about nine months? Is that fair? McAuley objection, Special Master
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  you can answer answer, No, my training wasn't about nine months.
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  Mister Simpson, can you ask her to speak up just
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  a little bit. I'm having a hard time hearing macauley. Okay,
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  we'll do our best, but she got sick during the break.
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  Let's just be happy that we're here and we're getting
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  this special master. Let's move on. Let's move on. Question,
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  Miss Roberts, I've handed you a document that's been marked
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  as VR four which is dated April seventh, twenty eleven,
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  and a reflex on the top participant Jack Scarola, Brad Edwards,
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  Virginia Roberts, and the document has abates number non party
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  VR one seventy eight through two hundred. Do you have that? Answer? Yes,
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  I do. Question have you seen this document before? Answer yes,
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  I have. Question did you see a draft of this
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  document before? Answer? I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
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  Question have you seen more than one version of this
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  transcript of the telephone conference? Answer not that I'm aware of.
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  Question do you receiving a draft and making any edits
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  to it? Answer not that I'm aware of. There's a
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  lot of documents that I've gone through, so it's a possibility.
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  Question you say you've seen it before? Correct answer yes.
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  Question when did you first see it? Answer? I don't
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  know the first time I saw it. I remember seeing
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  it recently, but I don't remember the first time that
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  I saw it. Did you see it shortly after your
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  telephone conversation with Jack Scarola and Brad Edwards. McAuley objection,
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  Can we have a timeframe on the document please, Special Master,
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  could you please recite a timeframe Borgia, You had a
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  telephone conversation with Jack Scarola and Brad Edwards in April
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  of twenty eleven. Do you recall that? Answer? I recall
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  the telephone conversation. Yes. Question And after you had that
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  telephone conversation, did you see a transcript of that conversation? Answer?
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  I don't know, I don't remember. Question have you actually
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  read this document? Answer yes, I have. Question is the
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  document accurate to the best of your knowledge? Answer yes,
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  I mean there's a couple small things like my middle
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  name as not Luis wasn't living in Australia for nineteen years.
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  But for the most part, everything else is pretty correct.
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  Question if you turn to page ten of twenty three, McCauley,
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  they're numbered to the top, at the very top of
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  the corner you see there. Answer yes, Question do you
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  have that page? Answer yes, I do. Question about halfway
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  down the page, mister Scirolla asked you, okay, and how
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  long after you first met Jeffrey. Did he first ask
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  you to provide services for one of his friends? You
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  answered about nine months. I think it wasn't a full year.
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  It wasn't six months. It was between six months and
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  a year, which is why I'm saying nine months. Do
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  you see where I'm reading? Answer? Yeah, I do. Question.
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  Is that a truthful and accurate McCauley objection, Special Master,
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  You can answer. Answer, it's as close to what I
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  can remember. But I hadn't given it much thought at
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  the time, But it's close. Question. Well, within sixty days
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  of this telephone call, you had met with miss Churcher.
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  Right McAuley objection, Special Master, You can answer answer within
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  sixty days? Are we talking about before the telephone call
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  or after the telephone call? Question? You met with mss
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  Churcher before the publication of the Deli mal article in
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  March of twenty eleven. Right answer Right. McAuley objection, Borgia,
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  and you met with her for about a week. Right
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  McAuley objection, I have an objection to all line of
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  questioning relating to the media, Special Master, I understand, proceed.
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  You can answer answer yes, and that was her must
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  have been March. If that's the date that she called question.
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  And during the week that you met with miss Churcher,
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  she showed you photos of people. Correct answer, yes question,
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  and you thought about whether there were abusers. Correct McAuley objection, Borgia,
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  and she talked to you. McCauley, sorry, let me an
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  eject objection. If you can pause for a moment, Go ahead,
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  Special Master. You did answer, move forward, Borgia, and she
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  talked to you about your time with Jeffrey Epstein and
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  being sexually trafficked. Is that correct McCauley objection, Special Master.
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  You can answer answer yes question. And then the article
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  came out about it, right McAuley objection, answer yes question,
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  and people called you about that article. Correct McCauley objection.
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  Answer yes question. And so you had a meeting for
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  a week, you looked at pictures, you talked to miss Churcher,
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  an article came out, you talk to people, and this
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  happening right around February March twenty eleven. Correct answer objection,
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  Special Master. You can answer answer yes question. And now
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  April seventh, you have a telephone call with mister Sciola
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  and mister Edwards. Correct answer yes question. So you had
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  time with miss Churcher with your friend calling with the
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  article to think about these activities. Correct answer, Yes, McCauley objection, Borgia.
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  Question and your best recollection in April of twenty eleven
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  was that about nine months? It wasn't a full year,
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  It wasn't six months, but between six months and a year,
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  which is why I'm saying nine months. That was your
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  best recollection as to the timeframe at that point after
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  you first met Jeffrey when he asked you to provide
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  services for one of his friends. Is that fair? McCauley objection, Virginia.
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  As you can see in that answer, I'm not even
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  sure it wasn't six months, but between six months and
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  a year, which is why I'm saying nine months. It
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  was an assumption question, was it your recollection at that time?
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  McAuley objection, answer by Virginia. It was my best assumption.
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  It could have been three months for all I know.
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  It could have been six months for all I know,
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  But it's an assumption question. It could have been a
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  year for all you know. Then right objection answer, no question.
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  Why is three months fair and twelve months not fair?
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  Answer because it wasn't that long? Question? But has your
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  memory improved since twenty eleven. McAuley objection, argumentative, go ahead,
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  answer going through everything that I have gone through over
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  and over and over again. Yes, it has. Question so
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  is your memory improving over time about the events? Answer
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  it's not improving. McCauley objection, Sorry, let me just object argumentative,
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  special master. You can answer. Answer it's not like that.
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  It's improving over time. But the more I talk about it,
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  the more I'm able to remember stuff. Question are there
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  things that you remember now that you didn't tell Miss
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  Churchier in your interview? Answer definitely possibility. Question you don't
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  know one way or the other. Answer she didn't ask
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  me everything, and I didn't tell her everything. Question why
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  did she call you? Do you know? Answer? I think
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  I've answered this previously, haven't I? Special Master, You can
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  answer it again. McAuley. You can answer it to the
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  extent you can recall. Answer she called me because she
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  was interested in the Jeffrey Epstein sagas so to speak.
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  Question did miss church Er tell you she had talked
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  to anybody else before she talked to you? Answer like
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  in order to get my number? Answer No, about the
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  same subject matter that she was asking you about. Answer
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  I'm not aware of her conversations with other people. Question,
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  I'm talking about what she told you. Did she tell
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  you that she had talked to other people? McAuley objection
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  asked an answered answer, I'm thinking I can't recall a
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  specific person that she said, but I'm sure she did
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  talk to other people about this. I know she talked
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  to the Delimail to see if they could run the story. Question,
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  after you gave the telephone interview to mister Scrola, did
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  you call him and say anything that you told him
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  was wrong incorrect, I should say from your telephone conversation.
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  Answer no, not that I can remember. They're a on
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  VR defendant. Exhibit number five was marked for identification. McCauley,
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  I'm going to object to this picture. This has pictures
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  of Virginia's children on this, and we have safety concerns here.
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  We're not going to be putting this in the record,
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  and I think any line of questioning regarding her kids
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  or identification with respect to them is absolutely inappropriate. She's
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  a non party witness, she's a sexual abuse victim, and
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  injecting her children into this is inappropriate. Miss Borgia. I'm
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  still going to mark this as an exhibit. This is
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  under seal, and if you want to take other steps
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  after this, that's up to you. Virginia one of my children.
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  She gets cut off by McCauley. Hang on, take a
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  deep breath. It's okay. We'll handle it, special Master. So
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  explain it to me. Why, Borgia. I haven't asked any
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  questions yet, Special Master. Well, explain to me about the exhibit.
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  You can market, but we're going to keep it. I'm
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  going to tell you what other than after the lawyers
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  see that. Let's put the copies here and we're going
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  to hold those separately and apart from the rest of
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  the exhibits. Because I tend to agree with Miss McCauley's
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  concern on this. So proceed with the question on that grounds. Question,
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  Ms Roberts, the document that's been marked as VR Exhibit
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  five is a compilation exhibit with two pages from a
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  Facebook profile. Do you have that? Answer? Yes, I do.
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  Question is this a Facebook profile that you created? Answer?
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  Yes it is. Question did you input pictures into it? Answer?
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  I sure did. Question is page one and accurate depiction
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  of your Facebook profile? Answer yes, question and the second
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  page of this exhibit, It says Virginia Roberts November eleventh,
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  twenty thirteen. Do you see that answer? Where am I
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  looking at? Question at the top under the name Virginia Roberts,
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  it says November eleventh, twenty thirteen. Do you see that? Answer? Yes,
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  I see that question? And is this an entry that
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  you made into your Facebook account? Answer? Yes, question you
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  posted the picture? Answer yes, question? Do you know below?
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  The first entry under the photo says, Hi, buddies, we'd
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  love to hear from our pen pals across the sea.
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  Our new address is and it states an address therein
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  goes On DC where I'm reading. Answer yes, question, Did
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  you make that entry into your Facebook profile? Answer? Yes, question,
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  and this is a true and accurate depiction of that
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  entry that you made. Answer yes, question by Special Master?
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  Is that it McCauley. I'm going to ask to the
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  extent that the exhibit gets used at all, that every
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  picture of her children is redacted. If you want to
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  leave the date, that's fine, Virginia. Can I also ask
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  why Special Master hold on McAuley? It's okay, Special Master?
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  Do you have an objection to the redaction of the children? Borgia?
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  I do in this regard, and I would like to
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  make my objection on the record without the witness present,
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  Special Master, without the witness present, Borgia, correct, special all right,
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  let's hold that because I don't want to lose this.
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  We'll go back to that on the next break when
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  the witness takes a break, we'll go ahead and put
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  that on the record. But in the meantime, let's go
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  ahead and put the exhibit. You hold yours, and we'll
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  hold the rest of them. Miss Borgia, there are several
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  copies here, Special Master, put them there. Ms McCauley, as
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  an officer of the court, will you take those exhibits,
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  and then on a break, put them in an envelope
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  and mark them and I'll seal them right away so
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  that this way you can provide the provisions on that McCauley. Okay,
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  Special Master, thank you, and then we can go ahead
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  at the next break, and you can make your objections
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  at that point. Go ahead, proceed. All right. We're gonna
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  wrap up right here, and in the next episode we're
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  gonna pick up where we left off. All of the
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