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Leah Kate on Writing for Kesha, Genius, & 10 Things I Hate About You | Delulu with Ryan Lu #209 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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I want him to message me and beg for me back after he hears the
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song 1,000,000. Percent did it.
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Work. It did actually shut.
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Up. If you're a psycho and if you're
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a girl, you're in the right place.
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You're. In the right place And you like
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unhinged pop music. Leah, Kate.
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There we go, nice to meet you. Hello genius Lulus, and welcome
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back to Delulu. Today we are joined by a true
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genius, a pop genius herself. She's an artist who's not afraid
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to talk her shit, and we're about to talk a lot of shit.
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On a lot of shit. A lot of shit.
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We're going into all of it, but please welcome Leah, Kate.
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Hi, Leah. Hello.
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Thank you so much for being here.
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Oh my God, thank you for having me.
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Well, like I told you before the show started, you guys, I'm a
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fucking massive fan of Leah. I love her music.
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Her new album, Genius, We're gonna do a deep dive today.
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But this album, it's so well written.
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It's just well written pop. It's catchy, it's good.
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You're like what I want from pop music right now.
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Oh my God, thank you. Seriously, I love it and I loved
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breakup and I keep mentioning that to you, but that was from
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your last album and I fucking love and breakup.
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I love the music video and like you're just like my vibe, which
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is like dance cry drunk, you know what I mean?
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Literally and how you described it before Psycho Girl.
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Pause. Psycho girl Pop.
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Unapologetic Lulu pop. It's all of that.
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And like, I live for it. I put it up.
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If you're a psycho and if you're a girl, you're in the right
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place. You're in the right place and
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you like unhinged pop music. Leah, Kate.
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There we go, nice to meet you. Well, Leah, we want to get to
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know you more, so I know that you're originally from Lai Am
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and you've always been in LA. Well, I moved away for a few
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years when I needed to like get the fuck out of town totally.
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But yeah, I'm like, born and raised in LA.
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Well. You went to New York?
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Yeah, that's right. Oh, my God.
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I just moved here from New York. You did not.
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I did. Oh my God.
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I. I mean, I feel like these are
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two such major cities and they're full of heartbreak and
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like, devastation. And oh, yeah, New York was like
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a lot of heartbreak for me. Oh.
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Shit A. Lot of my hands, well, came from
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New York, actually. I totally got that.
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What about Los Angeles now? Yeah, also filled with
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heartbreak. I need to like go to like
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Nashville next or somewhere maybe like.
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Fresh start. Yeah.
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Honestly, I'm a big kind of running, but like you just got
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to be inspired. Like, I feel like for me, I
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would rather like go out, live a life and have something to write
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about. It can be super devastating,
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right? I know you know that.
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Just cause like. Especially all throughout Genius
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too. There's a lot of yearning and
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longing and like, you know, reflection.
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I get it. Oh yeah.
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I love that. Well, did you always see
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yourself as like an artist and a performer?
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Oh my God, since I was like 3 years old I have memories of me
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being like that's what I want to do.
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Like pop star? I always want to be a pop star.
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It just sounded like what I want to do.
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I love to sing. I love to entertain.
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I would go to school and I'd be this like mute though.
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I was so shy. I used to get these doctors
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notes that exempt me out of speaking in class because I felt
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like so stupid talking out loud and I didn't want anyone to like
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hear what I was saying. And I was so shy.
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I was literally a mute. And then I would get home and be
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like singing and dancing and like having my brother make
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music videos with me and writing my songs and was like two
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different people. But I always knew that's what I
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wanted. I just didn't think it was
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possible because like you needed a record label and it was pre
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TikTok and I had no idea what the fuck to do.
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I was like, I just have all these songs for me.
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Like I mean, you were doing it though.
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I was doing it but for myself. And then I was like.
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It's expensive. It it is.
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It's like I just didn't even know where to begin.
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My parents were like, you go get a job and like do make your
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music on the side on the weekends.
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And I was like, OK, that's cool. Like being realistic with you.
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Realistic And then I would get these jobs and I got fired from
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all of them. I couldn't keep a job for my
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life. I have.
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Been fired from every job I've ever had prior to.
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Consecration literally saying every single job inspired me.
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Yeah, just like they. Said I had an attitude.
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Oh my God. Single one said I had.
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An attitude, really. That's so funny.
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Why? I like your music.
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Oh my God. They all said to me, you don't
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look like you want to be here. That was like the main.
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I was like, you're right, I don't.
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And then I was like, I'm just going to pursue music.
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Like why am I doing this? Yeah, I was like, whatever.
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And so I moved back to LA and moved into my parents house and
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was just like, here I go, I'm living at home.
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I'm just gonna pursue my music career now.
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And then it like randomly kind of worked.
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And I was like, OK. And you know what?
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You could have been a neppo baby about it too because your dad
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worked in radio. Well, my dad did work in radio
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forever for sure. But like The funny thing is he
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never put me on the radio. I took.
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I begged him. Even when I had the biggest pop
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radio hit in America, he was like, I'm still not putting it
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on the radio. That's crazy.
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It was so annoying. I was like, Dad, come on, like
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you like work at radio stations. Just he was like plug your
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daughter and he was like no. I know I would ask that too, but
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you didn't use your nepotism and that worked because like, you're
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self-made. Yeah, I'm fully self-made.
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I wish I was like a proper Nebo baby.
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Oh my God, I think I'm doing so. Bad.
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Me too. Oh my.
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God I would like be literally running the world if I was an
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EBO A. 100% I mean, you're going to get there anyways.
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You're already doing it kind of so. 100% we're.
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Just going to get ready for that.
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Exactly. So you start doing music, you
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start putting your music out, and you're doing this
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independently, though no label, because I know you signed to a
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label at some point. I did and then you talk about in
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Meltdown, Dancing on Tables got dropped by your label.
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So that's that whole journey there too.
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Wait, so how was that like signing to a label and then?
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It was crazy because I had done everything by myself for so
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long. I had.
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It was just literally me running the show.
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I had an investor come along, Alexis Ohanian, who's my
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favorite human ever. He founded Reddit.
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Yeah. Shout out to Alexis.
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He is married to the legend Serena Williams.
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Like, he's a tech icon. And he reached out to me and was
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like, I want to invest in you. Shut.
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Up yeah and it was when I had like no money to market my songs
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and my song Fuck up. The friendship was going viral
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and I was like perfect timing. I need some marketing funds.
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Just got asked to do like the Madison Beer tour.
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So could also use some help like covering my cost to get to
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Europe for a 2 month tour. It was great.
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And then everything kind of like we did a deal and then we did
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another deal and then finally I was like, OK, let's do the third
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deal, like for an album. And the first single was 10
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Things I Hate About You. And that exploded and it got so
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big that I don't know, it was wild.
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And I signed to a big a big record deal, which was really
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cool. But I kind of like prefer being
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independent. Really.
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Yeah. Because it was like it was
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stressful having 30 people tell me what to do all the time.
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I. Was going to say having too many
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cooks in the kitchen is so challenging because like I'm in
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the process right now. I'm trying to hire my my own
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team in house under me and I feel like I want to be really
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picky about the people that I'm putting on my team just because
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I feel like I've seen and I work with so many people who have a
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million people on their team and it's like a giant mess.
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Even getting you on the show was such a process by no fault to
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you or your team, but. But like, why didn't I ever hear
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about you wanting me on my show? I've been.
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Wanting you. Oh my God, I was showing Leah
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right before the show these despo emails I was sending.
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To Despo. Her team and I was like, hey,
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just following up if we can't Leah Kate on the show, please.
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Hey, I really love and break up. Hey, I'm really loving meltdown
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and I'll we'd love to have her in.
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We would love to schedule her crickets.
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Radio silence. So I need a publicist if
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anyone's out there. OK, I have something to
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recommend to you. My publicist has got you on.
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That's true, Charlie. Shout out to Charlie.
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It was quick because literally I hired him and he was like, so
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who do you want on the show? And I was like Leah Kate.
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I've been trying to get Leah Kate on for so long.
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And literally that day I drive home, he's like, call me.
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And I didn't call him. But then he sends me a voice
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message and she's like, she's on no.
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Oh my God, you're worth. The money, Yeah, Incredible.
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Wow, he really delivered. Really delivered.
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I mean to be. Honest.
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He was nepple boyfriending though because his boyfriend
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wrote with you on genius. True, he's a nepple boyfriend.
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And you know what? If he wants to use his nepple
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boyfriend connections, fuck you. Be a nepple boyfriend.
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I love that. Yeah, Oh my God.
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I'm trying to be a nepple girlfriend.
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Same. Someone hit me off Literally
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same. Well you mentioned 10 things I
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hate about you. This is obviously your biggest
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song at the moment until we get the Meltdown campaign going.
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But. As a Virgo, I love Liz.
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I fucking love List. Do you?
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Love list. I love a list.
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Oh my God. You're listing all the things,
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and this song is like, honestly, it's so polarizing.
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You know, the response to it was like, either you love it or you
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hate it, but it's so fucking massive.
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And I feel like even when people didn't like it, it just fueled
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the song blowing up. Oh yeah.
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It's been a couple years since then.
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Like, how do you feel about that song?
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It's crazy. It's been a few years but it
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still goes so hard. I still hear it on the radio all
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the time. It's still if I play it at any
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show, everyone knows the words. You're probably going to play
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it. For the rest of your life.
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Oh duh, for sure. I would like a new ending song
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if we could blow up a new OK where are we?
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What are? We trying to blow up right now.
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What do we think? Maybe like Meltdown or Genius,
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Yeah. Oh my God, genius.
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You like that one? Love, genius.
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Yeah, it's super well. This entire album's well
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written. We're going to get into it.
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I want to do a deep dive on your music.
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Like that's my priority for sure, yeah.
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OK, so with the music again, brutally honest lyrics,
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intentionally unapologetic, you started music and your initial
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music was very pop punk. It was like it felt more pop
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rock, you know what I mean? Then you transition to the just
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like bona fide pop star. So how is that artistic growth?
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Like where is it A decision to start making like more
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intentional pop music? I think I just always want to
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stay evolving and making the song stronger and better and
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more in your face and like, in your face.
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Yeah. In your face 100%.
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Yeah. So I just like, it just kind of
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happened naturally, you know, I'm just like, on this planet to
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be a pop star. So naturally the songs became
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more of pop bangers. Oh my God, I fucking love that.
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Thank you. So I want to get into genius.
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But before we move to genius, I need to talk about on breakup.
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Oh yeah, let's talk about it. I know it's your.
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Favorite. It is literally my favorite.
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It's just like such an emotional like pop banger and like also I
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feel like that concept of regretting breaking up with
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someone isn't really spoken a lot about in music or in
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general, right? You know the retroactive like.
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Is that a mistake? 100% and.
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Lyrics are so specific and I love specific writing and lyrics
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like getting drunk on a towel, you know what I mean?
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Like that shit. Like you really are going there.
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Oh yeah, that one was real. For people to know it's about
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them. Right 100 Oh, so do I.
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I'm like I want him to message me and beg for me back after he
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hears the song 1,000,000%. Did it work?
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It did actually shut up. Yeah break up we for a second,
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but I didn't last. There's a reason why we broke
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up. Okay, well.
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That's what I really love about your music though.
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Like I love that you reference like things so candidly because
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like when I listen to your music, Oh my God, my team will
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tell you I'm still slightly going through it, but I was
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going through it so hard in September and I was drinking a
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lot. But I would play your music
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drunk as fuck, just screaming the lyrics.
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I'll specifically and meltdown, but like I was just really
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feeling and I was like, you're making music for girls like me.
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Oh my God, I love that so much. Thank you.
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No, thank you. Stay drunk screaming at That's
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why I make music because I was a drunk screamer in my life and
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like, Oh yeah, I love nothing more than drunk screaming
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feeling songs myself or like being in the club.
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And I was always just like, I want to make the music that like
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a girl like me can drunk cry, scream to.
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Fucking literally. I drunk cry, scream to it, I
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drunk dance to it. It's just like.
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I feel you. It's.
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So healing and it's so. Healing.
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And I also feel like you're music and lyrics are so
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versatile because like it could be really wink wink and then it
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can be really vulnerable, right? Like 2 years.
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Yeah, there's like so many sides of me A. 100% I feel like you
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see a lot of them on Genius. Oh yeah.
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OK, let's get into genius. Let's get into.
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It honestly, guys, forgive me. This is literally for me.
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Yeah, I want to talk about this album.
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Oh my God, stop so bad. Well, how's making genius
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compared to super over? Which was your?
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Debut album, Yeah. It was like so much fun.
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We, I went to Hawaii with all of my collaborative Raiders, and we
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were just on the beach with like, a chef and I we just,
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like, rode the album in the most magical place ever.
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It was such a dream come true. It was over like, a year and a
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half. We wrote it.
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But like, we really went to Hawaii to, like, finish it.
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And I just feel like these are my best lyrics and my best songs
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today. Yeah, absolutely.
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They're just delulu. Oh my.
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God, that's why I like them like.
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Genius is about a very delulu crush I had who like just wasn't
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like like going back. He wasn't clocking it.
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But I'm like, I know you're into me like just shut up.
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Like why are? You doesn't take a genius.
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It doesn't take a genius like you are obsessed with me.
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Stop. Literally.
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Yeah. It just like kind of evolved
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into like the whole album. Obviously I wrote the whole
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album about this stupid crush. I had like, wasn't even a
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boyfriend. Yeah, it was like a crush, not a
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boyfriend. I was like, I'm obsessed with
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you. We like actually made out one
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time. Like our album?
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Yeah. Like.
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Wait, girl, why are you so me? OK, I'm gonna lead to this.
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Next one I'll go save it. Delulu as fuck.
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So I want to talk about your song, not to be dramatic.
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Let's talk about it, banger. Thank you.
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As a dramatic girl myself, definitely relate.
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It's just like super strong and it comes off very strong too.
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Wait, what is the most dramatic thing you've done for this
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subject? This.
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Muse This song, not to be dramatic, is a very true story.
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And I was in love with this boy. Like seriously obsessed with
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him. I would have done anything for
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him. And I one night he was just like
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talking to his ex in front of me.
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And I was so mad. I was like, he puts me through
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hell. It's like one weekend he likes
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me. One weekend he goes to me.
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I'm just like, I've had it. And I was really drunk.
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And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to like go make
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out with his best friend and make sure he learns about it.
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And in my brain, I was like, if I do this, he'll never talk to
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me again. And this is for the better.
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I'm going to sabotage it. Yeah, that's literally what went
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through my head. I was like, I can't stand this
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anymore. He's putting me through hell.
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So I went and I hooked up with his best friend and yeah, it was
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a crazy decision. He didn't talk to me for so
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long. We just now have become friends
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again. Recently.
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Yeah, not now, but like in the last like year, but like.
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This. Yeah, literally, Gagiana, I was
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such a mistake. But like, whatever.
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Got a good song? Got a binger?
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Sometimes you just got to do the crazy shit to write about it,
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and I really do believe that, you know, it's crazy.
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So you're talking about like you made this whole album off of
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this person and like, whatever. I would say that's probably a
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really dramatic thing for you to do.
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So dramatic, like I really titled my whole album off of
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like one crush, I add. Girl, literally.
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It just ate me alive. You know those crushes that like
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you? Just like I want to marry you.
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I can't explain why, but like you are everything I want.
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Oh my God. We're soul sisters, trust me.
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We are right like I like loved him for like a year.
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I like still love him and he still doesn't text me.
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I was like what the fuck? You put on an album about.
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Literally like respond. You know what's crazy?
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So I'm prepping for the show and I was like, I'm going to ask you
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what the most dramatic thing you've ever done is.
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I was like, I'm going to share mine.
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But honestly, I think you shared mine for me because I I wrote an
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entire album about this boy and I decided this is going to be my
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artist debut. I'm going to put it out about
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this man. I'm going to play you some
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stuff, but not right now. But you're going to hear it.
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So that's what I'm saying. That's most dramatic thing.
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I'm like. Wait, twins?
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Twins. Yeah, like delulu.
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Shits crazy. Oh my God.
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OK, we're we're, we're for the dramatic girls.
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We are. OK, you're on the right show.
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I feel like I am you. Are Oh my God, wait, thank you
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for that T Lulu that's crazy because I really love this album
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and I love knowing the intricacies behind it because
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we're talking about some other songs right before we got in
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here and I was like, how much do you relate to this?
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Like how real is it to you? And you're like, oh.
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Real. Oh my gosh.
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Wait, so let me dive into the Goss Goss then.
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So if I'll to my understanding, like it's like a best you who's
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like hooking up with this person you're infatuated with or
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someone and you're like, like, you know, you shouldn't watch,
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you know, you shouldn't pay attention to it, but.
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It was about a friend. Yeah.
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Yeah, I had. I wrote down on my notes one
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day, like I shouldn't look, but I will.
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All just makes me ill. And I didn't know what it was
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going to be. And then that song, it turned
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into a song in Hawaii. But it's like when you can't
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stop stalking a certain situation.
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Yeah. You can't stop looking and like
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a situation just makes you so sick and like, you don't even
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know why. And yeah, it's about a friend
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who kind of did me really dirty and it's still like, makes me
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sick to think about and. I feel that right now, right?
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Because that's the song that I like.
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I'm drunk, crying to right? And my roommates know this, and
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they watched me perform this song a million times in the
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living room. You need to send me videos of
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that. I literally will.
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I literally will. I showed you the video of me
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doing meltdown. Party obsessed.
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You guys, I need to show you guys this video, but basically I
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was at a party. I don't know who did it.
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It might have been me. Someone queued up Meltdown by
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Leah Kate. I got up on the fucking stage,
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perform for my life. That is really.
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Perform for my. Life, it makes me so happy.
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I mean that song was I think they played I'll too.
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Actually, I think it was me who killed cute these.
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Songs. Yeah, you're like somebody cute
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it. Like I remember being there
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drunk, screaming. That should be me, not like, you
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know what I mean? Like, Oh my God.
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And that's how I felt too. Oh my God, It's just so
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cathartic too. It is right, you know.
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What I mean, like I said, this album is just a well written pop
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album. Thank you so much.
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I feel that way to have like this album should I feel like be
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the biggest album in the world? Like why is it not?
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I mean, honestly, it is. Like it's really fire.
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Yeah, it will be, right. Need to keep our.
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Words we're manifesting. We are like saying it here.
16:45
First Genius by Leah Kate will be the biggest album in the.
16:48
World. I mean honestly it's only been
16:49
living in the world for like about a week as of us filming
16:52
this. Yeah, it's been a week.
16:53
Like the retroactive blow up of genius as it continues to go
16:56
along. You need to keep going with the
16:57
campaign for it. You know what I mean?
16:58
100% Oh my gosh, Leah, you were on the fucking mood board.
17:02
So that's my producer over there.
17:03
We're starting to roll out music.
17:05
We're getting everything ready for me, for my music.
17:07
And I literally referenced the Meltdown visualizer.
17:10
No, literally we just bought a fucking camcorder.
17:13
No, 'cause I told him I was like, I want this like this like
17:15
vintagey feeling aesthetic and like that video was just so good
17:18
like. Oh my God.
17:19
Oh my God. I'm so glad you love that one.
17:22
No, it's so good and it's just that like barfies dumb got like
17:25
girl right. I love it like.
17:27
We just got a camcorder and like a karaoke bar and.
17:30
It came out so good, like I think you should have just said
17:32
like it was a music video. I know right?
17:35
I should have. No, it's so good.
17:37
I love it. And also the photo shoot for
17:38
Genius is so cut Hulu. Oh my God, it's so Hulu.
17:41
Giving everything, Yeah, like what the fuck?
17:43
I have to serve Hulu always. You have to always.
17:45
I feel terrible. We censor show, so it's gonna.
17:48
Perfect. Beep.
17:50
Beep. Beep.
17:53
Oh my God. That's what I love about Ill
17:55
though, I just felt like it's so relatable because it's just
17:57
like, I shouldn't pay attention to this but I am and that should
18:00
be me and not you fucking scream it so.
18:03
Real. And then the bridge, like it
18:05
also kind of gets me off like it's oh.
18:07
My God yes, it's like that song is too real.
18:10
Those are like the most real lyrics on the album.
18:12
Oh my gosh, no. Like that song yourself is like
18:14
magnum opus. Yeah 'cause you asked me for the
18:16
show start You like your favorite on the album and
18:18
you're. I think it's meltdown like.
18:19
It's ill, it's ill ill ill. So underrated.
18:22
Like if Taylor put out ill it'd be like literally the biggest.
18:25
We're gonna. Blow it up we are.
18:26
OK, we should make it a single single.
18:28
Let's do it. Yes, it's like, that one's so
18:30
fucking good. So good, I'm so like it's just
18:33
it'll get the attention it deserves soon.
18:34
I'm gonna make sure it does. Yeah, Everyone's dream ill right
18:37
now. If you wanna know what I was
18:38
going through in September 2025, Yeah.
18:40
So check it out. Basically, when you're doing the
18:42
rollout for Genius. I was losing my fucking mind.
18:44
My producers laughing. They've all, they've all seen.
18:46
They've all seen me lose my mind over the.
18:48
Last couple months. No, it does.
18:50
And then you soundtracked it for me.
18:52
Oh. My God.
18:53
That's why I love the album so much.
18:54
Says. But you know, we talked about
18:56
the writing on Ill. It's so good.
18:58
But one of the most cleverly written songs on Genius is Wink
19:02
Wink. That one's crazy.
19:03
I mean, that must have been a bitch to write.
19:05
Oh my God, I was. You put the hogs like, let's go.
19:08
Figuring out the play on all the words was like such a mind I
19:11
would. Never have anybody do that.
19:12
Just genuinely, genuinely, I would not have anybody do that
19:14
like. We almost gave up on the song
19:16
because we're like, I can't think of anything else.
19:18
Like it was insane. We had to come back to it
19:20
because it was just such a mind fuck.
19:22
Like it started with a note. It all starts in my notes.
19:26
But I put the hot in psychotic because I wanted to write that
19:29
song with my best friend and collaborator Madison Love for
19:32
like 3 years and we like couldn't figure it out It just
19:34
like. Wasn't working Madison on ill or
19:37
creepin? She we wrote creepin together.
19:39
I was looking at the credits. And I saw my name.
19:40
Best songwriter ever. Love her that was.
19:42
Incredible. That's what I clocked because I
19:43
was looking at the songwriting credits.
19:45
Creepin is another one of my favs.
19:46
I want to get into that, but I want to keep talking about Wink
19:48
and. Wink.
19:49
Oh my God. Yeah, so clever.
19:51
Yeah, so we're like, I put the audience psychotic, we're gonna
19:53
write the song. We tried a few times, so like
19:54
never worked out. And then we finally got it and
19:57
we're like, we got it. Like we got it.
19:58
This it's not it's not called it without in psychotic, but like
20:01
we got the lyric and that's all that mattered.
20:03
Yeah, and it opens the song. It opens the song.
20:05
You immediately know this is about to be fucking and iconic.
20:08
Yeah, yes, those are the most psychotic lyrics of all time.
20:12
So psychotic, like I was telling you, like I put the diss and
20:14
obedience. I just clocked that today.
20:16
Yeah, that's a. Weak wink 'cause you release it
20:18
prior to Genius too. Yeah.
20:19
And I was just like, Oh my God, there it is.
20:21
It's so insane. That song is like batshit.
20:24
And then the chorus, like, am I single?
20:27
Absolutely. Wink, wink.
20:28
Are you? It's so great you're.
20:29
Crazy. That's so crazy.
20:31
My friends listen to that. They're like, this is the most
20:33
you song we've ever heard. And I fucking love that.
20:37
You just. So realized as a pop star.
20:39
Yeah, right. You know exactly what you want.
20:41
And what you're going to say, I just realized I still want to be
20:43
honest in my songs. Like why not?
20:45
Oh my God, fuck it. I'll just be like, brutally
20:47
honest. Yeah, the crazy girl is like me,
20:49
like. Yeah, right.
20:51
Like why be basic and like? Like I said, you bring something
20:55
so new to the pop scene. Like, thank you.
20:57
You're what pop music needs right now.
20:59
It's reminds me of like early 2010's Ke$ha when she came onto
21:02
the scene, you know what I mean? 100%.
21:04
And Speaking of Ke$ha, so you Co wrote attention.
21:06
I sure did. That song is such a fucking
21:08
banger. How did that come about?
21:09
So Attention by Ke$ha, featuring Slater and Rose Gray.
21:13
Rose Gray, right? I was in the studio with my
21:16
friend and collaborator Pink Slip, and Ke$ha called, and it
21:19
was like, what's up? And he was like, I'm just
21:21
sitting with Thea Kate right now.
21:22
Do you want to come by? And she's like, yeah, for sure.
21:24
And I was like, what the fuck? Ke$ha's coming.
21:27
He's like, yeah. And then she got there and she's
21:29
like, play me your stuff. And I started playing her all my
21:32
new songs. She's like, let's write
21:33
something. And I was like.
21:34
Stop. I'm Gaggiana.
21:35
Say less. And we literally wrote that song
21:38
and a week later they're like, it's coming out.
21:40
And I was like, sorry, Oh my God, are you kidding?
21:44
And that is crazy. I was like a dream come true.
21:46
I was texting my manager the whole timing like, I'm running
21:48
with Keja, I'm running with Keja.
21:49
What do I do? Shut.
21:50
The hell up. And that's crazy because I feel
21:51
like when you write a song like you, usually it can take years
21:54
before it even comes out. Oh, years.
21:55
Like Creepin is 2 years old. Yeah, it can take years.
21:59
Oh my God, and Creepin is actually my current fave because
22:02
this was in the new batch because you did the X12 and
22:05
three and I love Creepin and I was telling you before the show,
22:08
but the bridge of Creepin is so Ke$ha.
22:10
Oh my God, it's so Ke$ha. We wrote it like with the
22:13
intention of getting Ke$ha on it.
22:14
We had no luck, so it stayed my vocal.
22:16
But you know what? I got a Ke$ha cut this year so
22:18
it's OK. Period.
22:19
It kind of worked out and. Honestly, period.
22:20
Creepin people get on the remix. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
22:24
It belongs to me. That's a good idea.
22:25
Let's get Ke$ha on the remix. Let's get Ke$ha on the remix.
22:28
Ke$ha, do you want to be on the remix of my song Creepin because
22:30
I wrote a part for you? I had no luck in getting you on,
22:33
but it's never too late. I'm shooting my shot.
22:35
Wait, would she go on the bridge?
22:37
For sure. OK the bridge of creepin is so
22:40
Ke$ha and I felt like it was so much homage to because you start
22:42
auto tuning yourself through. It Oh my God, yeah, your.
22:44
Delivery was so Ke$ha. Right.
22:46
I sang it for Ke$ha. I literally wrote for Ke$ha.
22:48
I was supposed to be on the part.
22:49
It was not for me. No fucking yeah.
22:52
No, I love that you did it, though.
22:53
Yeah, I know. That song is so good because
22:55
then it's like, it's so relatable being out with someone
22:57
new, being drunk so. And missing my.
23:00
Alcoholic era. Oh my gosh, it's proudly.
23:02
Right now, but I am sure it's a problem, but we'll get.
23:04
Into it at some point. We'll unpack that later.
23:07
We'll. Talk about that later.
23:07
We'll talk about that in therapy.
23:08
Not to Lulu, but basically just like that is so fucking real.
23:11
Being with someone new, being drunky monkeys and then like
23:15
have you creep starts creeping in.
23:16
Yeah, and. It's just so well written, like
23:18
I was telling you, like the lights through the blinds.
23:20
Like the spiders? And the post chorus like.
23:22
I'm with the guy and I'm drunk out my mind and I thought I was
23:25
fine till the thought of you was creeping and just like the
23:28
lights flashing right through the blinds, like the spiders in
23:31
the night. Yeah, the thought of you is
23:33
creepin then. Creepin, creepin, creepin,
23:37
creepin. Wasn't wasn't gonna come in here
23:40
and do acapella today. I don't know.
23:41
What the fuck? I mean, we just gotta do what?
23:45
Wait, I'm living 'cause I love creeping.
23:47
Wait, what if I was bullshitting you and I actually know the
23:49
songs? Oh my God, you're like not
23:51
singing along. I'm like, hmm, why don't you
23:53
know that lyrics? I thought it's your favorite
23:55
song. Oh my God, right.
23:56
Oh my God. Call me out.
23:58
Stop. No, I'm a fan obsessed.
23:59
So you and I, No, I know you're like a real one.
24:02
OK, good. You listen.
24:03
I can tell. Good.
24:04
I like know your little choreo that you did for the Meltdown
24:06
visualizer? Stop.
24:08
That's what I was dancing to. Like, I was like dumb guys, you
24:11
know what I mean? Oh my God, dumb guys.
24:13
Bar 5. I'm micronuclear and I my follow
24:19
my whole life right off the face of the air.
24:23
Imagine if I. Really didn't.
24:24
Oh. My God, he's passed the test.
24:26
Everyone he knows the. Lyrics So at the time I had
24:30
written a song called Self-destructive because this
24:32
guy said I was very self-destructive.
24:34
And your song Meltdown didn't have the leader.
24:38
Chip I could post on Spotify, but I wanted it to be like, I
24:41
wanted to post the I might go nuclear and I might just blow my
24:43
whole life, you know what I mean?
24:45
Right off the face of the earth. A little nod to it, but yeah,
24:49
yeah, I love Meltdown. It's actually the song currently
24:51
on my Instagram. You know how you can play a song
24:53
on your Instagram? Are you kidding?
24:54
It's. Literally a song on my
24:56
Instagram. Do I follow you?
24:57
Well, you don't have to if you don't want to, but you can
24:59
verify that Meltdown is the song.
25:02
Oh my God. Wait, wait.
25:03
I'm just going to show you like OK Why is like my free page?
25:08
This a silly little crush. I haven't been able to sleep in
25:11
three days. My screen time is 8 hours.
25:15
Following Liz. Memorized.
25:16
OK, genius. It's just like, it's literally
25:20
like my stupid free page me when Mr. Mixed Signals decides he
25:24
likes me today. OK, this is like me right now
25:27
and. Then you write an album about
25:28
it. And then I literally wrote an
25:29
album about it. What's your Instagram?
25:31
Ryan, Lou. Ryan.
25:33
Lu. Lu am I?
25:35
The first thing Emotions. No, is it not?
25:38
Oh, you are third. I was.
25:40
Like wait, why am I not the first?
25:42
I've followed you back, thank you.
25:44
Where do you see? Meltdown.
25:46
Let me see. It's on the my bio.
25:48
Oh my reverifying 'cause I'm like maybe thank.
25:51
God, it's literally in your bio, duh.
25:53
I fucking love Meltdown. Oh my God, I'm obsessed.
25:57
Yes, and I love Easter eggs and that's how I'm feeling.
25:59
I too was having a meltdown. Oh my God, I'm still having a
26:01
meltdown. Do you have a meltdown a day
26:03
'cause I do. Really feel like I do, I crash
26:04
out so much. Wait, same If you have a
26:06
meltdown a day then genius keeps the doctor away.
26:11
Oh. T yeah.
26:12
TTT OK I love hearing that my producer's laughing because I
26:15
literally crash out to him like daily.
26:16
Wait, Sam, Really. I crash out daily.
26:19
I have this one friend named Lolo who's an artist.
26:21
Yeah, yeah. And I would like FaceTime right
26:24
now and see if she could like come on really quick.
26:27
That would work because. I'm on a podcast and I would
26:29
like you to be on for a second. Please answer my call right now.
26:32
And. She just put out a song, right?
26:33
She. Did.
26:34
On your story. We're going to call her really
26:36
quickly. If she doesn't answer, we're
26:37
going to be so mad at her because.
26:39
We're not streaming. We are not going to stream her
26:41
songs if she doesn't answer this damn call.
26:45
The hat looks so good on you. I'm obsessed.
26:47
Like, oh. My God, I'm so happy you're
26:48
wearing it. I'm so mad at her.
26:51
We're dropping her. We are dropping her.
26:53
We're not streaming by. OK, Lolo, sorry.
26:55
So basically I call her once a day for like for the crash out
26:59
for like a different crash out. And I feel like she's like
27:01
borderline annoyed now but she still loves it.
27:05
But she's one of those friends who's like annoyed but if I
27:07
don't tell her something and she's mad.
27:09
So I'm like you need to relax and answer my call when I call.
27:13
Literally. I mean, it's simple.
27:14
Yeah, it's so simple like it. Doesn't take a genius.
27:16
It doesn't take a genius but she's like my crash out friend.
27:18
Like I call her for all of the crash outs.
27:20
She knows like all of my secrets.
27:22
So if you guys want to find out anything about me, just become
27:24
her. Friend, we'll have her on the
27:25
show so we can get a little. More.
27:26
Yeah, yeah. That's so crazy.
27:29
Yeah. My crash outs, they're so
27:30
intense. My team, I know.
27:31
They're so sick of me right now. Oh.
27:33
My God. Right?
27:33
Same. Literally same.
27:35
Oh my God, I feel so bad because I've been so guys, I want
27:38
everyone to know I have been straight up performing through
27:42
this entire situation of the past three months.
27:43
This is like the worst three months of my life, Scott.
27:46
Are you OK? I, I don't know, am I OK?
27:49
He's laughing. I, I don't know, am I OK?
27:51
Oh my God, we're all not OK. I mean, period.
27:53
And that's why we're streaming, genius.
27:54
Yeah, so we can feel better. Stream Genius so you can feel
27:57
better about your dumb fuck decisions that you made over the
28:00
weekend or just in your life. We'd be making them.
28:03
Yeah. OK, so I also love stupid.
28:06
That's so fucking real. Just to be like dumb just so we
28:09
can like. So we can hang out?
28:11
No, that's so me. Like I would still see you even
28:14
though I know I shouldn't. Like I'll play stupid.
28:16
Do you see what I mean about like this album being Oh my God,
28:19
genius? It is so well written.
28:21
Thank you. It's.
28:22
Just Oh my God, like this is. Your message I wrote stupid with
28:25
the girl that I wrote 10 things I hate about you with also Oh.
28:27
My God we. I also like that it's next to
28:30
Genius on the track listing the last two songs.
28:32
Stupid genius, Stupid genius. It's not funny.
28:35
It's so clever and smart, it like fits together.
28:38
It does. Right, I know people are
28:39
clocking that. Too.
28:40
They're clocking that because I'm a stupid genius.
28:42
Are you? I'm a stupid genius.
28:44
Yeah, we built our period, period we're.
28:46
Stupid to Lulu geniuses. Yeah, 100%.
28:49
Period. We'll take it.
28:50
Period. Well, this album is such an
28:51
experience in the world that you built around it.
28:53
Thank you. Oh my.
28:54
God, more. I want more now as a fan.
28:56
A deluxe, perhaps? OK, wait, what about the deluxe?
28:59
What are we saying? There's a deluxe in the works.
29:01
Stop. And it might be better than the
29:03
actual album itself. I mean, I honestly completely
29:06
believe you. We demand more.
29:07
We demand more. Just wait for the deluxe.
29:11
You're going to like drop dead. Sorry, I don't I don't actually
29:15
mean that, but like you know what I mean?
29:16
You're going to like. We're like on such a same
29:19
wavelength. We are right.
29:20
I have a. Session on Friday and the
29:22
concept I have and the song I want to work on is called Better
29:25
Off Dead. Oh my God, love.
29:27
So if it comes out, we're clipping this.
29:30
I'm taking a songwriting credit. OK, you'll get a.
29:32
Percentage. Yes.
29:33
Love that. I mean, you are on the mood
29:35
board for it. Am I?
29:36
Yes. Stop.
29:37
I'm not kidding. The reference is ill.
29:39
Can I show you? Yes.
29:39
Can you hand me my phone? Stop.
29:41
Like. You're kidding.
29:43
I'm literally not kidding. I'm going to show you right now.
29:46
I don't know if it's going to show up on the camera.
29:48
So everyone first we're streaming Genius by Leah Kate.
29:52
Yes, we are. This is my session the
29:55
references. Oh my God.
29:58
It's literally. No.
29:59
It is literally ill. Oh my fucking God I love this so
30:03
much. It's like this is amazing.
30:05
I love when I make like the reference list.
30:08
Yes, seriously. I.
30:09
Mean it's. Just so.
30:11
It's an incredible we're like that.
30:14
What's it called? The 16 Chapel thing?
30:16
Yeah, you know that again. I have no idea.
30:18
Yeah, that thing we're like dumb and Dumber.
30:21
Oh my God, yeah. Oh my God.
30:22
You know those? What's that mean Where it's like
30:25
two dumb bitches saying exactly that's that's?
30:28
Exactly. That is literally 2 geniuses. 2
30:31
geniuses. OK, we love it and I love two
30:32
stupid. Geniuses on my track.
30:34
Oh, you like genius? Yeah, the title track.
30:36
I mean, honestly, the verses and the way that you delivered it
30:38
were so interesting. Like it was so like tongue in
30:40
cheek and like you're so sarcastic and it was just like
30:43
so callous. You know, Oh my God, I really
30:45
wanted to deliver it that way. I rerecorded it like so many
30:48
times because it needed to have that tone and like sauce and
30:52
tongue in cheek nature behind it because I was talking to my
30:55
biggest crush being like, okay, so we're talking at the party.
31:00
Yeah, you know, can. I just tell you how smart that
31:02
is because the song being called genius and you're delivering it,
31:05
so your cadence is so. Dumb and valid.
31:07
So dumb. Yeah.
31:09
I hope you know I clocked that was that.
31:10
Intentional. No, that was intentional.
31:11
OK, for sure. How?
31:12
Smart you are. As a writer.
31:13
Yeah. Like that's crazy.
31:15
Had to sound like a dumb fuck but I'm really a genius.
31:18
Literally, that's what I love about it.
31:19
Like the concept of the entire project is so good.
31:21
Oh my God, thank you. I love a good concept.
31:23
Nothing makes me happier than like a great concept.
31:26
When we came up with Genius, I was like, that's it, yes, that's
31:29
just it. Like, I mean it's just start to.
31:31
Like rhyming genius with indecent is I.
31:33
Would Oh my God. Like, right. 100% genius.
31:37
Genius, genius. You're a genius.
31:39
Thank you. So I also love two years.
31:41
It's like super vulnerable it is.
31:43
But I also like that it starts off really soft and acoustic and
31:46
then like it hits. Yeah, two years was about my
31:49
brother passed away a couple years ago and I wrote that song
31:52
about him and that was the first song I ever wrote about him
31:54
because it was honestly too hard to write about.
31:56
Like I couldn't even think about it.
31:58
Still honestly can't. But like finally I was like, I
32:01
need to write a song about it. And we, we wrote that and oh.
32:04
My God, it's a beautiful song. Thank you.
32:06
Oh my God. It's like that one is like
32:07
really sad. Well.
32:08
I love the range they have on the album and like showing the
32:10
sides of yourself too. Thank you.
32:12
That's incredible. I'm going to listen to it
32:13
differently now 'cause I oh. My God didn't.
32:15
Clock that. Thank you.
32:17
That's what I like. Like this is a fun album and
32:19
like the more you listen to it, you're going to notice things
32:20
like I said about like in the Diss and Obedience.
32:23
Like that was new too. I just clocked that on my way
32:24
here. I It's like every listen you're
32:26
going to clock something else that's new.
32:27
It's. Just a such a fun experience.
32:29
It's just such a good album. Like congratulations on the.
32:31
Release. Oh my God, I love you.
32:33
We I'm such a fan so. Oh my gosh.
32:35
OK so I have been talking to you for a minute now and I do not
32:41
know your Zodiac sign. I want to take a little guessy
32:43
based on everything you're saying.
32:44
Yeah, let's guess. Oh God, I don't know.
32:47
Unapologetic. I want to say Leo, but no, I'm
32:48
not going to go with Leo. I want to say Aquarius because
32:50
they're free. No, I'm not going with that.
32:53
You're Virgo. I'm a Virgo.
32:54
OK, T. Because, thank God, because.
32:56
We're so similar. I'm a Virgo.
32:58
You are. I'm a Virgo.
32:59
Oh, my God. Stop.
33:01
Yes. Oh, my God.
33:02
OK. You're such a Virgo.
33:02
Because I was like, everything you think and everything you do
33:04
is so me. So I'm like.
33:06
We both This makes so much more sense I.
33:08
Know and Virgos have such a bad rap.
33:09
They do right, right. But like, we're the best out
33:11
there. The.
33:12
Best like an unearned bad rap, right?
33:14
Yeah, it's like fucked up. Yes, entirely.
33:16
Like, give us a chance. Give us a chance.
33:18
Right, we'll write an album about you.
33:20
Yeah, we will. It's going to be a good Don't do
33:22
us dirty because you'll hear about it.
33:24
Oh my God, so I love quoting people in my lyrics and I'm
33:27
always like you're a Co writer now so if you don't if.
33:30
You. Oh my God.
33:32
Me. I will.
33:35
I'm so I have a lot. I'm writing like you.
33:37
You really are on the mood board right now because I'm feeling
33:39
clue scorned. Oh my God, done.
33:42
You should like I am your your reference.
33:44
You're the reference guy show I'm your inspire.
33:46
You're literally the reference, love.
33:48
OK, well we're going to play a little game here.
33:49
OK, so this is WW8 DGD. What would a delulu girl do?
33:54
Oh. My God.
33:56
What would a genius girl do? Yeah, so.
33:58
We have some delulu besties submitted questions and we're
34:00
going to give our best delulu slash genius advice to them.
34:03
Oh. Perfect.
34:04
I love giving advice. OK, same.
34:06
We're very qualify for it, clearly.
34:07
Yeah. All right, so our first question
34:09
is, I'm making it super obvious I'm into this guy, but he's not
34:13
getting the hint. What should I do?
34:15
Text him and say what are you doing tonight?
34:17
Want to hang out? Yeah, just do.
34:18
It just like ask like what is there to lose?
34:20
I'm such a fan of just telling people how I feel and just like
34:24
doing it and. Like, I like camping games,
34:26
yeah. Yes, I do like games, but like
34:28
in a. Crazy way in a crazy way in.
34:29
A crazy fun way, you know what I mean?
34:31
For sure. I mean, honestly, I guess what I
34:33
would say to this person is, I don't know.
34:36
It doesn't take a genius. Doesn't take a genius.
34:38
Doesn't get him. Yeah.
34:39
Just so easy. I always tell people I feel
34:42
about them. It's very rare for me to like
34:44
someone. So if I like someone, I'll be
34:45
like, I like you. Literally the same, yeah.
34:47
I then have to tell them yes. Yeah, or make an album about it.
34:50
Yeah, or make an album about it. Literally.
34:52
Absolutely. Wait, are you still in that
34:54
situation that genius was about? No.
34:57
OK. So yeah, no comment.
35:02
You're like, where's my PR team? Where's my PR team?
35:05
OK, fair enough. We're excited for the deluxe.
35:08
Yes, we are. Story's not over.
35:09
Yeah. OK, so here's our next one.
35:12
All my friends hate the guy I'm dating, but I really like him.
35:14
Is it a problem or should I just ignore them?
35:16
Ignore them. I would ignore them.
35:18
I also like a little controversy.
35:19
Yeah, I love some controversy. Yeah, I find that like people,
35:23
I, like all my friends, always hate.
35:24
Me too. I mean, there's always like, Oh
35:27
my God. Yeah, same.
35:28
Right. I'm like.
35:30
Who's the problem here? Yeah, I always find the problem
35:33
and bring them home. Same.
35:34
Same same same. OK love that.
35:37
So I think I have a crush on one of my best friend's boyfriend.
35:40
I can't get over it. What should I do?
35:41
What are we thinking? You just have to get over it,
35:46
really. Yeah, if it's your best friend
35:48
like you don't. Want to ruin the friendship?
35:49
You don't want to ruin the friendship like the friendship.
35:51
But you don't really like this friendship?
35:53
Yeah. If it's just like a crush, like
35:55
get over it. I would say out of sight, out of
35:57
mind. Distance helps so much because
35:59
proximity is such a real thing. Yeah, it is just like don't ever
36:03
think about him or go hang out with him.
36:04
Set a boundary. Yeah, just like.
36:06
Yeah, if this friend means something to you.
36:08
If she doesn't, then I guess whatever, go for it.
36:11
But if it's like, if it's like your best friend, then yeah.
36:14
We don't want. An I'll situation.
36:15
No, we don't. No, no, no.
36:18
T Hell no. I love I'll so much.
36:20
Love, we're going to stream it after this.
36:22
Hell yeah. I'm literally going to stream it
36:23
after this. I'm going to go right into the
36:25
studio right now. You're better.
36:25
Blast the album, love. Oh my God, we.
36:28
Need to do something psychotic? Eye looking pictures all the
36:31
time you. I want to dress up.
36:33
Bought it. Blame my sadistic, I don't mind.
36:36
But you're on your best behaviour.
36:40
I remember nights when. We were trashed, never took
36:45
before a traitor. Turn around and.
36:47
Stab me in the back, I feel like an idiot.
36:51
You really know the words Shit you were not.
36:53
Kidding. It's a wordy 1 though.
36:54
Yeah, pictures on the Internet like you and his friend.
37:00
Oh yeah, you know what I mean, love.
37:03
Oh my God, that song's so good. It's really, what if I didn't
37:05
know the lyrics and you like, try.
37:06
I feel like this podcast is over.
37:09
Just get up and walk out. Never.
37:11
I mean, that song's so fucking good.
37:13
Oh my God, I know. And the idiot line is so real.
37:16
So real. Oh, and then like when you do
37:18
your oh, oh, I'm not going to attempt it going.
37:21
Oh my God. Also the vocal production is
37:22
dreamy as fuck. The vocal is pretty good, right?
37:25
When you get. To the I recorded this song.
37:27
Shout out to my producer Zach Skelton.
37:29
We recorded this song 7 times. No, fucking even more.
37:34
Like, should we get him on FaceTime?
37:36
Really. Quick, you tell him.
37:37
Oh my God, because I'll do research.
37:38
He looks buff. Wait, Oh, he's buff.
37:41
Hold on, let's call him really quick.
37:42
Zach. Zach.
37:45
We're bringing a lot of guests on today.
37:46
We're bringing so many guests. Hold on, we're going to FaceTime
37:49
him really quick, Really quick. We need him.
37:53
Please answer. He just had a baby so I know
37:55
he's like on dad duty but please.
37:58
Answer. He has to answer you.
37:59
He has to answer me. Please, please, in the spirit of
38:02
ill. Please answer please.
38:04
I want to talk about how many different times we recorded this
38:06
song, no. Tell him to call back.
38:09
We'll. Answer him to call back.
38:10
We will answer. We will answer.
38:12
To get there. OK, let me let me text him.
38:14
Hold on, Zach. Urgent.
38:16
Call me now. Exclamation point 9. 11911.
38:20
That's urgent. Call me now.
38:24
Perfect. We recorded that song.
38:26
You're so crazy. Wait, that's me texting.
38:30
Oh my God, you know, like we recorded the song maybe even 10
38:34
times. Like every time we recorded it I
38:35
was like I hate it. And I came back and like did it
38:38
again. Oh my God.
38:39
He texted me. Hold on.
38:40
Oh my God. OK, can't talk in a sesh, not
38:43
even for one min. 40 seconds. 40 seconds.
38:48
We just want confirmation. 40 seconds. 40 seconds lol I'm just
38:52
going to call him again. Shameless begging.
38:56
Shameless begging. 40 seconds. You're literally so me.
38:59
I'm so crazy. Like this is the thing.
39:01
Like crazy too. I like to get what I want.
39:05
Me too, you know? Yeah, Literally.
39:06
He's typing I. Feel like I always get what I
39:08
want. Though do we think he's going to
39:09
call? I think he's going to step out
39:10
and call. Hold on.
39:12
He's going to step out and call. We're going to manifest it.
39:15
Oh, my God. He thinks it's like an emergency
39:17
function. I feel bad.
39:18
No, we. Need to talk about ill.
39:19
Oh, my God, we need to talk about it.
39:21
OK, I think he's I think he's going to call.
39:22
OK, No, but he's calling. But we need to FaceTime.
39:26
I'm Facetiming FaceTime. FaceTime.
39:28
FaceTime. I feel like an idiot.
39:35
She's answer. Sucking on a cigarette.
39:38
Zach, Zach, Zach, please answer. Is he should I, I should have
39:44
accepted his call. I should have just accepted the
39:47
call. OK, I'm just going to call.
39:49
I'm just going to call. We're going to we're going to
39:50
get this. We're going to make it.
39:52
FaceTime won't work on my end. Zach, don't kill me.
39:58
I'm in a podcast right now and we're talking about say hi to
40:01
the podcast. Hi Zach, we're talking about ill
40:05
and how many times I made you rerecord my vocal on it.
40:09
Can you clarify? I want to say.
40:11
We 5 or 6 different days. Different days.
40:15
It was worth it. It's so good, the bridge is so
40:17
good, it's all good. It was my favorite song on the
40:19
album. You are a God.
40:22
Thank you. Thank you, Zach.
40:24
We apologize. Honestly, we don't we don't tell
40:27
Leah, but we kept like her first takes for most everything he's
40:31
going to find out on the show. Oh my God, we love the that's.
40:34
Insane. It's just you're ready.
40:35
I just kept doing worse and worse.
40:37
We probably did go with like the first take.
40:40
He was basically like you wasted our time magic.
40:42
From the top. You're so right, Zach.
40:43
I should have listened to you. They were so good.
40:45
First instinct first. Well, Zach, love you and miss
40:49
you. And I'm going to come visit you
40:50
in Nashville soon. Please do.
40:52
I will. OK, have a good session.
40:55
Bye. Girl.
40:56
He hates you. Kill me.
40:57
He. Hates you?
40:58
Oh, you wasted that. Man's time.
41:00
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry that.
41:03
Was good. Yeah, that was good.
41:05
Wait, that's so funny. I like that you're like truly
41:07
chaotic. I'm truly insane.
41:09
You're truly. Chaotic, chaotic.
41:11
Love that. That's super good.
41:12
I am who I portray myself to be in the songs.
41:15
Super authentic to you? Yeah, I was literally, Oh my
41:18
God, 'cause I was telling how I was telling for how excited I
41:20
was to have you on the show. And he was really excited to
41:22
have you, too. And I was like, no, listen to
41:23
her lyrics. She's so unhinged.
41:24
Oh my God. I was like, she's like, crazy
41:26
love you, they'll love you. You write for me, 'cause I was
41:28
like, that's the one, OK. So I'm dying, though we kept the
41:31
first take. That's so true.
41:33
It's so good. We did we literally 7 different
41:35
days OK and I kept the original vocal.
41:37
That is so funny. You're just wasting that man's
41:39
time. He wanted to murder me.
41:41
By the end I was like, this is the last time I swear.
41:43
They chose the best one. It sounds so dreamy 'cause I
41:45
also feel like you don't get enough praise for being a
41:47
vocalist too. Ohh yeah.
41:49
Like, literally. Yeah, right.
41:50
I don't like she uses auto tune. I'm like no, I like.
41:53
Well, yeah, I do. But also saying that too 'cause
41:55
it's. Just like pop star pencils A
41:57
vocal effect. But yeah, Ill is like you sound
42:00
so good and creeping too. Love you.
42:02
Oh my God I love you. OK, so clearly we're crazy,
42:05
girly whirly. Crazy.
42:06
Crazy, very delulu. So I want to know what your most
42:09
delulu take is. Do you have one for me?
42:12
What's delulu? Delusional, crazy,
42:14
controversial. What do you think is like a
42:15
little crazy out there? I mean, you're, you're kind of
42:17
all of it. But like something I've done.
42:19
Something you've done, something you are, something you think.
42:22
I just think I'm like so impulsive, it's insane.
42:25
I don't even let like my thoughts process.
42:27
I just think of something and I go and I don't think about like
42:29
the end results of anything. I'm just like, that's a great
42:32
idea and I'll do something and like I won't think.
42:35
And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
42:37
But I would say that's like the most delulent thing about me.
42:39
Can I tell you? Yeah, my publicist, when we're
42:41
getting on the show, he told me that no, that you're impulsive.
42:44
Stop He. Was like, she's so random, Ryan.
42:47
So just. Roll the bunches.
42:48
I'm crying. I know, God.
42:50
Thank you, Charlie. I wish you were here.
42:51
Thank you, Charlie. Ohio way thing, Yeah, yeah, He
42:54
told me that it was the right prep for me though.
42:56
Yeah, he was just like, she's gonna be very like random and
42:59
all over place. I'm like, okay, we're gonna make
43:00
it. That's pretty spot on.
43:01
I love that. Yeah, okay.
43:03
You're really true to your brand.
43:04
Yeah, I am right. You thought I was?
43:07
Yeah, absolutely. And I'm loving it.
43:09
I'm super happy about it. Okay, perfect.
43:11
Okay, cuz if you were, I feel like when I make my music I put
43:14
on, I don't put on a persona, but it's like also like the most
43:16
dramatic, chaotic version of myself.
43:18
Oh, for sure. No, me too.
43:20
Like there are parts of me that's like I'm just a psycho
43:22
dog mom who likes to get in bed at 7:00 PM and go to sleep.
43:25
But like, I'm loyal. Yeah, exactly.
43:27
But I'm still like me at like the core like.
43:29
I love that and it comes off so good.
43:31
Thank you. Seriously, I can't even imagine
43:32
if this album didn't exist because like I said like it
43:34
really got me through or is getting me through all.
43:37
It's written like literally every song like has a different
43:40
like in my life right now, like creeping right now for me
43:42
because I've been getting super drunk over the weekend.
43:45
The thoughts be creeping in. Literally, literally, the
43:48
thought of you is creeping in. So that's like the most truest
43:51
words I've ever said. Absolutely.
43:53
I completely agree with that. Yeah.
43:55
OK. Well, Leah, this has been such a
43:56
joy. I want you on forever, please.
43:59
We want to talk so much more about.
44:00
Oh my God, yeah, we all come back for the deluxe if there is
44:03
one. Please.
44:05
Of course there's going to be deluxe.
44:06
Possibly as long as we stream Genius.
44:08
Yeah, as long as you stream the damn album, then maybe I'll put
44:10
up more music. If not, I'll retire.
44:12
OK. And we're not letting that
44:13
happen. We're not letting that happen.
44:15
Do you want Leah Kate to quit music?
44:17
I don't think so. So if you don't, go stream
44:19
Genius the album. Very big, bold, dramatic
44:21
statements on brand. On brand I will quit.
44:25
Oh, I love it. Just kidding, Leah, we close
44:28
every show by manifesting together.
44:29
Is there anything you want to speak into existence right now
44:31
here on the Lulu? Yeah, let's speak into
44:33
existence. That genius album is going to be
44:35
the biggest album in the whole fucking audience.
44:37
Yeah, and every single song is going to be a radio hit.
44:40
Oh my God, you wrote them to be radio hits.
44:41
Literally, I don't settle for anything else.
44:44
Any of them could be a single. Yeah, no, that's true.
44:47
They all could be single. Nothing is an album track.
44:50
I don't write album tracks. You need to tell me like what
44:51
are you going to push right now for a single?
44:53
Like creepin, I'll genius, stupid.
44:57
I'm going to go hard on like all of them because I'm going to
44:58
make one of these damn songs blow up.
45:00
Yes, OK, creepin. Creepin.
45:02
Let's get creepin. I think it's going to be all.
45:03
Yeah, OK. It's really relatable.
45:05
Yeah, it's relatable as fuck. Yeah, it's so catchy.
45:08
Yeah. You're OK.
45:09
Back to Creepin then. Actually Creepin, we're going to
45:10
do all of them. We're going to every one of
45:12
them, OK? We're going spam tick tock.
45:13
Yeah, let's do it together. I'm going to do it.
45:16
Are you how I'm going to do it? Fuck yeah.
45:18
Literally. OK, well Leah, you're a true
45:21
genius. So are you.
45:23
Thank you. Thank you for having me on.
45:25
Thank you so much for being here and thank you Delulu Besties for
45:28
watching this episode of Delulu. This was your healthy dose of
45:31
delulu, so now you can go live your true Lulu bestie Leah Kate,
45:35
where can the Delulu's find you? You can find me on Instagram, at
45:38
Leah, on TikTok, at Leah Kate Music, YouTube.
45:40
I don't fucking know, probably Leah Kate Music, Spotify, Leah
45:44
Kate Twitter. I don't fucking remember, but
45:47
you can find me everywhere. I'm everywhere.
45:49
She is everywhere. Leah, Kate, honey, we're.
45:51
Streaming over, which was her debut album as well as her
45:54
newest album Genius. Guys, if you heard me talk about
45:58
these songs, you all need to listen to her literally right
46:00
now if you at least want to get a peek into what I was going
46:03
through. Yeah, don't you want to know?
46:05
Yes. Don't go listen.
46:07
Go listen to Genius, everyone stream Genius and we're excited
46:09
for the potential deluxe and everything else that's coming.
46:12
But look up Leah and it's Leah. Leah.
46:15
Yeah. OK so if you love this episode,
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46:28
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46:30
We will. We will personally do it, we
46:32
will fuck it. We might just do it anyways, but
46:34
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46:35
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46:38
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46:40
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