Latest / The Family Teams Podcast / Ep. 254 | What About Stay At Home Dads During This Crisis?
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- 0:00Before 100 years ago, there was just no such thing as breadwinner. Like there was this kind of this context of like, I leave, I make the money. Like that didn't exist.
- 0:12What's up, guys? Jeff and Jeremy here. Another good question today. Now, this one, I don't, the relevancy of it is different in this moment than I think in normal, but I still think it's a helpful question regardless that'll be evergreen. And the question is, what about stay-at-home dads? Is that okay? Is that appropriate? Brandon asked this, so this is a question that we're trying to answer from our community.
- 0:32Could I still fulfill my God-given role as a father, staying at home to nurture and raise our kids while my wife takes up the role of the breadwinner? Would I be giving up my responsibilities as the leader in my household? I have heard many different takes on this, and I can't figure out exactly what the Bible really says.
- 0:48says about it. That's a good question. Hard question. I know a lot of people wrestle with it. I'll say one thing and I'll let Jeremy then talk about kind of the vision I think we see in scriptures, but I'll talk about the more, what would this be, sociological or historical perspective. And that's the fact that before a hundred years ago, there was just no such thing as breadwinner. Like there was this kind of this context of like, I leave, I make the money. Like that didn't exist.
- 1:09The world of the scriptures, the home was an economic and a familial kind of orbiting force that was all wrapped up into one, meaning like it was just its own entity. It was its own unit. There was no one that was a breadwinner. There was no one that was not a breadwinner. It was just a team that works and serves each other. Now, there was, of course, I do think there was...
- 1:32structure, organization, deference, et cetera. But I really like, this is only a 21st century question to a 21st century problem. And so I just think it's kind of useless and pointless at some layer. Now, you know, of just like, we...
- 1:47And here's another way to put it. I think it becomes really problematic when you then try to go into the first century text and have it answer your 21st century problem. That's what I'm trying to say. It's like, no, we have no context or even ability to understand how different it was in the first century than today.
- 2:06Um, in the point of just like, yeah, that classic model of like, should I stay home or should I leave? It's like no one ever left back then, but it was just like a, it was more of this team rather than, yeah, I can go on and on and on that. But I just think you have to start there of like, get yourself out of that framework first, because then don't, don't answer the problem with the 21st century, century answer. You know what I mean? That's right. Try to answer it with the first century answer. And so that's what I think is different. But what would you say, Jeremy?
- 2:27Yeah, I think what Jeff is describing is in the first century, the household was actually an economic unit as a whole. And so as a team, the household would go out and the household would make money. And so the husband, wife would work together, the kids would work together. And this was true in just about every culture at every time until really recently. And now it's becoming true all of a sudden again with this crisis. Totally.
- 2:50Families are asking, how are we going to make a living? We have to work together. And so I think that that's one of the ways that things have really changed. And so when he's asked who should be the breadwinner, the one thing I would say biblically, and that is that you guys, it's really important that we're being formed by the story of Scripture. And one of the most relevant things,
- 3:10elements of Scripture or parts of the story for this question is Genesis 3. So after the fall, God told Adam, He said that, you know, you will, by the sweat of your brow, you will make a living. You'll scratch a living from the earth. And I do think that there is, it's a critical that if your wife makes more money than you, that you don't then pull back and no longer participate in
- 3:35in sort of income-producing ventures. And a lot of the guys I've talked to that are stay-at-home dads, their wife is working, but they are engaged in income-producing ventures. I think that's really critical that you participate in what it means to really scratch a living from the earth, to toil. And so I would say that if you abdicate responsibility from the...
- 4:00from the responsibility to provide for your family, and you don't have, you're not like building up skills, you're not getting stronger in those areas. If you're completely separating, your wife is 100% making money, you're 100% in the house. I think that from a story perspective, there's discipleship for men
- 4:20that Genesis three is describing that I think it's critical. You don't abdicate or not experience that. So, um, and there's a lot, a lot of deeper reasons for that. Uh, but I, I would say that that's the line that I wouldn't cross. Um, if you're at more, if you're more at home than your wife, if you're watching the kids, um, and training them and parenting them.
- 4:38you know, a little bit more than she is. I don't think that's necessarily the issue. But I would say what Jeff said, just come in full circle. The best scenario, you guys, is to work as a team and create economic opportunities that you can invest in together. And if you can find ways to do that, that's the killer solution. And I think
- 4:58uh, with the crisis and things that are happening. Um, I would really seriously consider that. So in order for us to help you guys figure out how to, what, what do you do as a family during this crisis? Um, we're going to put out a five day challenge. So Jeff, I want you to tell them a little bit about what that's, that's about.
- 5:15Yeah. So guys, we're in this particular moment right now and we're just getting inundated with requests that we want to help serve. We want to come alongside. And so we just built this little kind of program where it's five days to use this crisis or this moment to transform your family into a team. And there is a very particular way to walk out of this crisis as a team or strengthen stronger using tools and resources that maybe you didn't have before.
- 5:37And we want to help you with that. So if you go to any of our sites or social, et cetera, we're basically laying out this five day program. It's totally free. We're literally just going to dump emails to you, probably PDFs, videos, links, et cetera. That's just going to say, step by step, we want to resource you, equip you and make you feel not pressured or stressful or burdened by the amount of it. We're going to hold your hand and come alongside you. And we're really, really excited for that.