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Steve Price | 30 August · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: Live.
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  Speaker 2: This is Steve Price.
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  Speaker 1: Good evening, Welcome to Friday Nights. Steve Price with you.
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  Speaker 1: Politics dominates tonight as attitudes tighten the closer we get
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  Speaker 1: to the next election, whenever that might be. Now coming up,
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  Speaker 1: we will talk about the first interview done by the
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  Speaker 1: would be US President, Kamala Harris on Democrat Friendly CNN. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the first question, as seen on Sky Today from CNN,
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  Speaker 1: was a free kick about what she would do on
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  Speaker 1: day one in the White House. Have her listen to
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  Speaker 1: this motherhood statement?
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  Speaker 3: And I look at the aspirations, the goals, the ambitions
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  Speaker 3: of the American people. I think that people are ready
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  Speaker 3: for a new way forward.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. I'll talk to my panel about that later in
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  Speaker 1: the program. Also coming up, what has happened to the
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  Speaker 1: media standards in this country when a breakfast program is
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  Speaker 1: able to insult their female staff with a demeaning stunt
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  Speaker 1: and no one seems to complain about it. The Australian's
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  Speaker 1: media writer Sophie Illsworth will have a look at that
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  Speaker 1: for us later. Plus, are we teaching our children the
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  Speaker 1: skills they need for life? Now? Mining billionaire Gena Reinhardt
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  Speaker 1: does not think we are, and we'll catch up with
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  Speaker 1: an education expert to talk about that as we go
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  Speaker 1: through the night. But you know, first up, you know
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  Speaker 1: your leader is under great pressure, your prime minister. When
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  Speaker 1: you witness the last couple of days of Anthony Albanesi's
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  Speaker 1: prime ministership, he's got a backbench revolt over of all things,
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  Speaker 1: a question in the National Census. Now the sense is
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  Speaker 1: not even due for another two years. The census was
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  Speaker 1: asking this question and then dropped it. They were asking
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  Speaker 1: Australians about their sexual identification orientation. Now, folks, we're in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of a cost of living crisis. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need to tell you that record housing prices, stubborn interest
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  Speaker 1: rate level, expensive power bills, despite what labour tells you,
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  Speaker 1: grocery prices through the roof. Business is collapsing on a
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  Speaker 1: daily basis, and your government is worried about whether to
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  Speaker 1: ask has your sexual identity changed since the last census.
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious, so focused on this was a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: Labor backbenchers that the Prime Minister was forced to backflip
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  Speaker 1: on a question in that census in two years time.
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  Speaker 1: That I'm tipping Albaneze he didn't even know about. This
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  Speaker 1: was his response on ABC Radio today when he was
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  Speaker 1: asked about it. There will be a sexuality preference sexuality
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  Speaker 1: or a sexual preference question in the senses.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yes, sir, will as long as the testing goes
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  Speaker 4: okay and a question can be developed in a way
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  Speaker 4: that is sensitive and that gets the information that is required,
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  Speaker 4: and the ABS will be testing that there's a draft
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  Speaker 4: question has been developed.
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  Speaker 1: Seriously, who cares? But I'll tell you what the shows.
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  Speaker 1: Labor MPs on narrow margins are getting very nervous the
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  Speaker 1: closer the election gets. If you're one of those labor
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  Speaker 1: MPs who are either themselves LGBTQI or hold a seat
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  Speaker 1: with the large sexually diverse electorate, you want to be
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  Speaker 1: seen to be making a noise about your community being
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  Speaker 1: in a census question last time and dropped this time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, forget about balancing the family budget, filling the
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  Speaker 1: car with petrol, or paying the mortgage. You want to
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  Speaker 1: be able to tick a box saying last census I
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  Speaker 1: was straight, now I'm gay or whatever. This nervousness extends
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  Speaker 1: to labor MPs with large number of Muslim voters in
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  Speaker 1: their electorate who are forming their own parties. The Muslim
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  Speaker 1: Electric MPs are with that big numbers of pro Palestinian voters.
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  Speaker 1: They fear the Greens are attacking them from the left.
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  Speaker 1: Look my point here is the Prime Minister appears to
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  Speaker 1: be walking on eggshells trying to keep everybody happy, which
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  Speaker 1: might explain why he got so ups set when a
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  Speaker 1: Kiwe journo captured him joking about going halves with the
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  Speaker 1: US over some security project for Pacific Islanders. Now the
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister would normally laugh that off, as he should have,
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  Speaker 1: but the pressure is clearly getting to him. Have a
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  Speaker 1: squizz at his awkward responses to questions about that as
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  Speaker 1: he was about to return to Australia.
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  Speaker 4: People try and read something into it. You must be
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  Speaker 4: pretty bored.
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  Speaker 5: Loud Do you think that.
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  Speaker 1: This No, we didn't not at all.
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  Speaker 6: What was the quiet bit.
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  Speaker 4: It's a cracker of an announcement. That's what I said,
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  Speaker 4: That's what I stand by.
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  Speaker 7: It was given the sense that there are concerns raised
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  Speaker 7: by his members that this is solely about car China out.
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  Speaker 8: Of the region.
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  Speaker 4: No one's raised that yesterday. Not a single person at
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  Speaker 4: the plenary raised that yesterday.
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  Speaker 9: This is Pacific.
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  Speaker 4: Lead and it's a cracker of an announcement.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, is that the image of a strong prime minister
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  Speaker 1: charging around the South Pacific rebutting the creeping influence of China,
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  Speaker 1: or a bloke who doesn't know whether he is Arthur,
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  Speaker 1: Martha or Anthony. But first I've and speaking of Gina
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  Speaker 1: Reinhartchi spoke at the Australian's Bush Summit in Port Headland
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  Speaker 1: in WA today and I'll take you there shortly. But
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  Speaker 1: as each day and week goes by, I think the
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  Speaker 1: Australian people are slowly waking up to the fact that
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  Speaker 1: there's wooly headed rush toward renewables championed without criticism by
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  Speaker 1: the federal government is irresponsible and downright dangerous. The series
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  Speaker 1: of Bush Summits, which were excellent around the nation this week,
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  Speaker 1: have highlighted something I've been talking about all year. Comfortable
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  Speaker 1: city dwelling activists and their fellow travelers in Labor and
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  Speaker 1: the Greens, state and federal refuse to understand that Australians
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  Speaker 1: living outside the big cities, by right of birth or
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  Speaker 1: by choice, whether they be food producers or regional townsfolk,
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to sit back and be forced to
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  Speaker 1: cop the change to their lifestyle that massive renewable energy
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  Speaker 1: projects are going to bring Let's start here with Gina
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  Speaker 1: run Art Today. She spoke the truth. Green activists don't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear what she's got to say.
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  Speaker 10: It's no good having the resources in the pilgram unless
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  Speaker 10: we can export them and receive revenue from them. Hence,
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  Speaker 10: we should have defense to keep our railways and ports
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  Speaker 10: open and our vital sea lens. You may ponder, and
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  Speaker 10: how do we pay for this defense. We're already in
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  Speaker 10: a huge record debt, with huge government spending, borring and
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  Speaker 10: important prayers.
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  Speaker 2: Dig baby, dig well.
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  Speaker 1: Gina was simply saying what sensible people have been saying
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  Speaker 1: for some time. Renewables can't underpin our base load power requirement.
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  Speaker 1: The sun doesn't all was shine, the wind doesn't always blow,
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  Speaker 1: and the capital to hook all this new energy up
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  Speaker 1: will be using her word, humongous. And At another of
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  Speaker 1: the Bush summits this week, held in Victoria, farmers reacted
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  Speaker 1: to a series of maps released by the Victorian state
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  Speaker 1: government that incredibly showed up to seventy percent seventy of
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  Speaker 1: the state of Victoria would host renewable projects or transmission
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  Speaker 1: lines seventy percent. As one sheep and cropping farmer from
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  Speaker 1: the wimmer Marsha McIntyre said communities were highly distressed by
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  Speaker 1: seeing those maps. Joining me now life inm was Senator
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  Speaker 1: Michaulia Cash. Good to see you those bush summits. I
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  Speaker 1: think this week wherever they were, Senator actually spoke some
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  Speaker 1: truth to what real Australians are thinking.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely, and just look at the disaster that is energy
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  Speaker 11: policy under the Labor government, I mean Chris Bowen has
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  Speaker 11: been shown to be both they coward and a con man.
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  Speaker 11: Under Chris Bowen and mister Albanisi, Australians need to understand
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  Speaker 11: you are heading towards energy poverty.
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  Speaker 8: They promised cleaner energy steve with their renewables on the experiment.
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  Speaker 11: Will guess what today Chris Bowen took out the trash
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  Speaker 11: and what he forgot to tell Australians was the recent
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  Speaker 11: data shows since Labor came to office, our missions are
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  Speaker 11: now one percent higher. Forget about the cheaper energy they promised,
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  Speaker 11: the two hundred and seventy five dollars off your energy bill.
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  Speaker 8: Australians are struggling.
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  Speaker 11: Every day to pay their power bills, with some Australians
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  Speaker 11: now paying in excess of one thousand dollars and let's
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  Speaker 11: talk about consistency. Well, mister Alberanisi, you need to stand
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  Speaker 11: up and advise Australians under your renewablesonly energy policy, when
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  Speaker 11: the sun stops shining and the wind.
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  Speaker 8: Stops blowing, how do I turn my lights on?
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  Speaker 11: So Jena was stating that the blinding obvious under Labor
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  Speaker 11: Chris Bowen is both a coward and a con man.
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  Speaker 8: But you're right, or and more Australians are finding out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get it. I want to get
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  Speaker 1: your view on the sense that I get that out
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  Speaker 1: in the regions definitely, but also I think in suburban Sydney, Brisbane, Perth,
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  Speaker 1: no matter where you are, people are now. I think
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  Speaker 1: Michaelia is starting to actively question the scale, the cost
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  Speaker 1: and the disruption of this rush to soilm when they're saying,
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  Speaker 1: why are we destroying our own country here for what purpose?
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely, and Steve all Australians should actually have a look
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  Speaker 11: at the maps that they saw at the Bush Summit,
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  Speaker 11: because they actually show the Australia that we love and
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  Speaker 11: hold dearly today will not be the Australia that we
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  Speaker 11: know under Chris Bowen. Again, Labor put all their eggs
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  Speaker 11: in the renewable basket. No other country in the world
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  Speaker 11: Steve is doing that. All the coalition is saying is
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  Speaker 11: you need a balanced energy mix. We will deliver a
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  Speaker 11: policy to Australians that does provide them with the cleaner
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  Speaker 11: energy they want. That absolutely will provide them with the
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  Speaker 11: cheaper energy they so desperately need. But more than that
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  Speaker 11: will ensure that we have energy security for decades and
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  Speaker 11: decades and decades to come.
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  Speaker 8: Mister Albanesi is presiding.
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  Speaker 11: Over a country that is on a spiral towards energy poverty.
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  Speaker 11: Mister Albanesi doesn't seem to understand that energy security, Steve
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  Speaker 11: is national security, and they are compromising Australia's national security
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  Speaker 11: with their bizarre I mean, I just don't even understand
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  Speaker 11: it renews only approach.
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  Speaker 1: So pull out a map of Victoria. As I just
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  Speaker 1: mentioned there, and this came out at the Bush Summit
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  Speaker 1: that was held in Victoria. Seventy percent of Victoria is
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  Speaker 1: either going to host a soul of farmer, wind farm
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  Speaker 1: or transmission lines. And I can tell you what's worse
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  Speaker 1: the fedral government. The farmers are going not here mate.
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  Speaker 11: And what's worse is I'm laughing because it is just
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  Speaker 11: so unbelievable. What's worse is you look at these maps
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  Speaker 11: and you then think, okay, perhaps mister Albanesi will deliver
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  Speaker 11: me the cheaper, cleaner, consistent energy. That is just fairies
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  Speaker 11: living at the bottom of the garden. As I see
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  Speaker 11: today is confirmation with the data that came out that
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  Speaker 11: under mister Albanesi's experiment with Australia's energy security, emissions under
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  Speaker 11: mister Albanese's government are almost one percent higher.
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  Speaker 8: That is a fact.
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  Speaker 11: Australians are not getting the cheaper energy. Mister Albanese, he
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  Speaker 11: promised them, he liked them, basically, didn't he They are
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  Speaker 11: now paying almost in some cases one thousand dollars more.
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  Speaker 11: And as for your consistency, again, for simple questions can't
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  Speaker 11: be answered when the sun stops shining and the wind
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  Speaker 11: stops blowing, how do I turn my lights on?
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  Speaker 8: Energy?
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  Speaker 11: Poverty is mister Albanese's plan for Australia, and Steve, we're
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  Speaker 11: heading there.
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  Speaker 1: Well to that point, let's have another quick listen to
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  Speaker 1: what missus Reinhard had to say today.
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  Speaker 10: Which services would you like cush without the mining industry
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  Speaker 10: revenue and how much more tax would you like to pay?
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  Speaker 10: Let's keep uppermost in our minds and encourage others to
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  Speaker 10: why jepardize this bonanza? Kill the geese laying the golden eggs.
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  Speaker 1: She's right, isn't she?
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  Speaker 8: Of course she is.
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  Speaker 11: She has basically stated exactly what we are committed to
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  Speaker 11: in the coalition. Peter Dutton has made it clear a
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  Speaker 11: strong mining industry in Western Australia equals a strong economy
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  Speaker 11: for all Australians. In the last ten years, the mining industry,
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  Speaker 11: despite what the Greens and labors say about them, have
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  Speaker 11: paid around two hundred and fifty two billion dollars in
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  Speaker 11: wages to Australians. That's Australians that wake up every morning
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  Speaker 11: and rely on the mining industry for their job. But
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  Speaker 11: in addition to that, the mining industry has paid around
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  Speaker 11: three hundred and fifty seven billion dollars in the last
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  Speaker 11: decade in taxes and royalties. So when mister Alberizi attacks
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  Speaker 11: the mining industry as he is doing, the Greens they've
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  Speaker 11: already said if they are in government with mister Alberanisi,
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  Speaker 11: there will be a forty percent superprofits tax.
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  Speaker 8: Pretty obvious.
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  Speaker 11: Australians need to start thinking very carefully. What services am
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  Speaker 11: I now prepared to give up? Is it going to
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  Speaker 11: be I don't know my health services, Is it going
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  Speaker 11: to be schools? Is it going to be my road infrastructure?
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  Speaker 11: Because something has got to give. And when labor on
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  Speaker 11: the Greens look at where are we now going to
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  Speaker 11: make up that money that comes into government because we've
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  Speaker 11: destroyed our mining industry. Well, the Greens have said half
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  Speaker 11: a trillion dollars they are coming after the mining companies
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  Speaker 11: in the Australian people. Australians need to wake up, Greens
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  Speaker 11: and labor again, energy poverty. We're heading down that path.
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  Speaker 11: But more than that, what services do you want cut?
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  Speaker 11: Because under mister albin EASi and the Australian Greens, you
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  Speaker 11: destroy our mining industry, you attack them.
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  Speaker 8: There's only one outcome.
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  Speaker 11: Money doesn't go to federal government. Federal government has to
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  Speaker 11: say it Wasustralians, these are the services we are going
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  Speaker 11: to cut and that is going to be Australia's reality.
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  Speaker 2: Steve.
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  Speaker 11: If you vote back in mister Albersi or worse, mister
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  Speaker 11: Albanesi and the Australian Greens, well God.
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  Speaker 1: Help us if that happens. I just finally, trying to
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  Speaker 1: be vaguely optimistic. Is there no adults in the federal
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  Speaker 1: cabinet Now we have a cabinet system of government that
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  Speaker 1: have got the courage to step up and say listen, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we're going too quick and we're going too hard. This
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  Speaker 1: ain't going to work.
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  Speaker 11: The answer to your question is a very simple no.
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  Speaker 11: But the reason is this, mister Albanzi is not a leader.
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  Speaker 11: Leadership begins at the top. Mister Albanesi has shine with
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  Speaker 11: his backflip on the census question. Last week he had
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  Speaker 11: his ministers out there saying well, we can't go down
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  Speaker 11: this path, it'll divide Australia. He was lent on by
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  Speaker 11: the Greens, he was lent on by a few backbenches
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  Speaker 11: and this week, oh sorry, I'm doing a backflip, and
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  Speaker 11: now we will have that particular question. It does not
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  Speaker 11: matter who leans on mister Alberanisi, because he does not
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  Speaker 11: know what he personally stands for. Australians need to understand
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  Speaker 11: he will go whatever way the breeze is blowing, and
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  Speaker 11: that now filters down to the people in his cabinet,
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  Speaker 11: his ministers and the Australian Labor Party. With Peter Dutton, though,
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  Speaker 11: what do you get. You get someone who is principled.
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  Speaker 11: You may not like him, but a bit like John Howard.
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  Speaker 8: Guess what you know?
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  Speaker 11: Peter Dutton will fight for you, he will stand for you.
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  Speaker 11: But more than that, you know what Peter Dutton stands for.
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  Speaker 11: And that is the leader that Australia needs, not the
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  Speaker 11: insipid and weak Anthony Albanesi who does not know and
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  Speaker 11: shows it every.
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  Speaker 8: Day what he stands spot.
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  Speaker 11: That is dangerous. Steve a dangerous place to be, but
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  Speaker 11: it's also dangerous to have for Australians.
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  Speaker 1: A week leader, Kayle Cash, have a great weekend, thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much than joining us tonight. Now a change
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  Speaker 1: of pace. I really want to query the policing of
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  Speaker 1: standards on commercial radio when a segment now I've written
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  Speaker 1: about this in the Herald Sun, it's up online now
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  Speaker 1: in the paper tomorrow. I really can't understand how this
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  Speaker 1: would allowed to go to air. I'm talking about a
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  Speaker 1: demeaning and disgusting and not surprisingly, this segment was fronted
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  Speaker 1: by Kyle Sanderlans and he's on air partner Jackie Henderson
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  Speaker 1: on the Kiss network around the country. Now, the segment
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  Speaker 1: involved our apologies for talking about this on a Friday
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  Speaker 1: at seventeen minutes past six. The segment involved taping staff
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  Speaker 1: members female staff members in a urinal, playing it on
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  Speaker 1: air and trying to guess who was who. The segment
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  Speaker 1: I heard was five females, apparently the week before it
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  Speaker 1: was men. Now, as I said in print, you can
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  Speaker 1: imagine the outcry if this happened in any other workplace
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  Speaker 1: in the country, female labor politicians would be in revolt.
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  Speaker 1: So what did they say about this disgraceful muck? Where
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  Speaker 1: was the Communications Minister, for example, Michelle Roland, the mother
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  Speaker 1: of two daughters, or the female executives of the radio
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  Speaker 1: network ARN that puts this stuff, put this stuff to air,
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  Speaker 1: or act with the government body that is supposed to
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  Speaker 1: oversee commercial media on free to air Crickets Kiss FM
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  Speaker 1: sacked their local announcing team of Jason Lauren to make
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  Speaker 1: way in Melbourne for Kyle and Jackie Oh after they
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  Speaker 1: signed a reported two hundred million dollar ten year deal
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  Speaker 1: to remain at ARN, but the move has backfired. Jason
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  Speaker 1: Lauren poached by rival Nova, now the number one FM
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  Speaker 1: breakfast show in Melbourne, while Kyle and Jackie Old barely
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  Speaker 1: moved the dial for more. I'm joined by media writer
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  Speaker 1: for The Australia and Sophie Elsworth. Sophie, great to see
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  Speaker 1: you again. You know, I want to get into the
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  Speaker 1: otter grubbiness of that in a minute. But firstly, how
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  Speaker 1: does this happen? How does this go to air? And
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  Speaker 1: there's no complaint, there's no outcry.
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  Speaker 12: Because, really, Steve, the Akma, the media regulator is very weak.
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  Speaker 8: They don't do a lot.
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  Speaker 12: So these commercial radio networks who are dabbling in very
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  Speaker 12: big paychecks for these prominent stars, get away with whatever
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  Speaker 12: they want. Now we're not reading your column today. Just
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  Speaker 12: the shock to understand they think this is acceptable to
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  Speaker 12: put this to air.
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  Speaker 1: But where all the Mids' outrage?
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  Speaker 8: Where is the outrage?
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  Speaker 12: There is no outrage. It's disgraceful, Steve, and it warrants
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  Speaker 12: a real crackdown on what content is going on air now.
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  Speaker 12: Remembering they air in Melbourne and in Sydney in that
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  Speaker 12: breakfast slot. They're on air when parents are driving their
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  Speaker 12: children to school. And is this something you want your
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  Speaker 12: children to hear?
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  Speaker 1: I doubt so. Some producer or someone in there decides
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  Speaker 1: that this is a segment which will be funny and
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  Speaker 1: five women who work on the program are asked to
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  Speaker 1: make an audio recording themselves urinating in a bathroom. They
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  Speaker 1: then play this on air, and Kyle and another male
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who he is are then supposed to
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  Speaker 1: guess who is who when the audio is played. How
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  Speaker 1: is that even possibly within the guidelines of what is
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: tasteful media or radio?
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: Well it's not, Steve. But again we go back to
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: the media regulator. They are not a strong regulator, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 12: often when radio stations push the boundaries, nothing really happens.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: A great story about the nine radio and people being
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: on air and not disclosing their commercial contracts. What's happening
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: done about that? I had an inquiry? How long did that? Last? Twelve?
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: We had?
• 21:00
  Speaker 12: Of presenters? You had Ben Fordham, Jackie Felgate, Sophie for
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: Micah spooking items or having deals with outfits and not
• 21:09
  Speaker 12: disclosing it. And all that happens is the media regulator
• 21:12
  Speaker 12: says that's not very good. Do a little bit of training.
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: So we've got a.
• 21:16
  Speaker 12: Weak media regulator and these commercial radio outlets they are
• 21:20
  Speaker 12: going for this really grubby sort of content. Now it
• 21:24
  Speaker 12: works in Sydney, Steve Kyle and Jackie O. Often the
• 21:27
  Speaker 12: top ratings show in the breakfast slot. They're you know
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: type shed Ford them here. They've been here a few
• 21:33
  Speaker 12: months now, three ratio, three ratings, I think two full
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: ratings periods and they're not making their mark. Their ratings
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: is down around six point one percent now in Sydney
• 21:45
  Speaker 12: it's around fourteen percent. By the difference because it's a
• 21:48
  Speaker 12: different market here, Steve, you would know this better than anyone.
• 21:51
  Speaker 12: The breakfast slot in Melbourne is dominated by Ross Stevenson,
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: Russell hower Croft. They're up over twenty percent of the
• 21:58
  Speaker 12: share every survey years as long as I can remember.
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: So when you get these FM stations in Melbourne that
• 22:05
  Speaker 12: are trying to do what works in Sydney, you can't
• 22:08
  Speaker 12: just translate it across.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work. The great news story out of this
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: is KISSFM. At the end of last year sacked a
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: combination called Jason and Lauren Jason Lauren and they were
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: out of a job. They got picked up by Nova
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and guess what. They've gone over to Nova and in
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the ratings that came out during the week, they're the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: number one FM radio program in Melbourne.
• 22:34
  Speaker 12: Well, isn't that remarkable that they are beating Kyle and
• 22:37
  Speaker 12: Jackie o who. There was so much hype around Kyle
• 22:40
  Speaker 12: and Jackie o. Arn poured in so much money to
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: promote them in Melbourne. It was all this hype. There
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: were buses, there will placards, billboards. It hasn't worked now, Steve,
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: I reserve my judgment completely. They haven't been here that long,
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: but they're shirt certainly not going the right way to
• 22:57
  Speaker 12: pick up new listeners.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the contrast couldn't be more clear about
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the content that they're presenting. And if you looked deeply
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: into those radio figures, and I used to run a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: radio station, so I know you would be able to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: work out exactly how many of the listeners that were
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: on that station have shifted across to and over. Absolutely,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: so they've moved there. They've shown with their feet.
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: But the problem is Steve Aarn, who owned Kyle and
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: Jackie Oh, they have committed to this, so it's going
• 23:26
  Speaker 12: to be a failure if they pull them out. So
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: they'll give them time and hope they pick up audiences.
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: But I think there would be people internally scratching their
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: heads and saying this has not worked.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Since his Colin went up about lunchtime and on the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: heralds some website. It's in the paper tomorrow. Paul Barry's intervened,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the host of Media Watches. He had to go up
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: meet No, he's.
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: Actually said this is appalling. He's on your side, Paul Barry,
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: he's on your site.
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: Maybe you could go for his job. He's leaving Media Watch, Steve.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Stranger things have happened. Stranger things.
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: Isn't that interesting?
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: But I suspect this will get widely picked up to
• 24:03
  Speaker 12: anyone who hasn't read your column do because I think
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: it brings home how bad some of this content is
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: that is going to air.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It's disgraceful. Sophie, thank you very much. Sophie Ellsworth from
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: The Australian. There coming up after the break still ahead,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to Gina Reinhardt and her criticism of
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: our education systems she made during the week, saying it's
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: too woke and teaching propaganda. More on that with an
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: education expert shortly and next the Queensland state election cast
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: doubt over Here we go again, Brisbane's Olympic Stadium plans.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to our Friday regular Campbell Newman up next,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: welcome back to Price with you and I'll talk to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: our panel shortly. Now to this billion dollar gold mine.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about that. It's been in the
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: news all week. Central western New South Wales is where
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: it's located. It's become a real fiasco for federal laby.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: You've got to say, with almost unanimous conduc nation of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the Environment Minister Tanya Plibersex eleventh out decision to block
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: that mind on indigenous heritage grounds. Now, a former Land
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Council leader says that plibersc has quote been hoodwinked. New
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Southwest Premier Chris Mins is putting pressure on his federal
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: counterparts to reverse that decision, and even the Prime Minister
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: seem to be walking back the position yesterday. Let's bring
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: in my Friday Night regular, former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: This saga is extraordinary that you can get a billion
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: dollar gold mine, eight hundred jobs. It's been okay, ticked
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: off by every man and his dog, and then at
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the last moment you get the federal minister come in
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: with something called Section ten says oh no, no, this
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: is not going to happen. You've got to move your
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: damn amazing look this yeah, look, this is.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: A huge issue on Australia day Stuve because it is
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: actually happening on a range of different projects. You do
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: see it, and it is increasing, rightly the sovereign risk
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: of trying to get any sort of project up in
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: this nation. And I said last week on this program
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: that this needs some very careful scrutiny. I think potentially
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: there's now a threshold there for it to be referred
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: to the National Anti Corruption Body. I think the MIND
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: proponent should be looking if there's some sort of judicial
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: review or other legal avenues. But it's really good to
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: see Chris Min's, the new South Wales premiere, pushing back
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: hard on this. Thank god that he is. I mean
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: we've got at least him and the South Australian Labor
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: Premier who seemed to have more common sense than the
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: rest of the Labor Party put together.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I fans of both of them. I mean,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you've worked in business and in politics. I mean imagine
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: if you were on the board of a mining company,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: whether you're offshore or a local mining company, You're sitting
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: around the board table going well, we've got this lease.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: It looks like it's good. Looks like we're going to
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: pull about a billion dollars with a gold out of there.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And you see this and you go, well, hang on,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: are we really going to invest? Is it safe? And
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: we're going to go through all the processes. And I
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: was speaking to someone yesterday suggested that it might be
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: several one hundred million dollars they've spent already. You'd go
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: somewhere else, wouldn't you. Well, absolutely you would.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: And that's something that a lot of politicians don't understand,
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: and say a lot of bureaucrats don't understand, is that
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: capital is mobile in this connected world, and companies can
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: decide where they will set themselves up, where they'll choose
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: to mine or farm or set up a bank. They
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: will go to where the economic conditions, the business conditions
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: are the most beneficial. And what's happening in Australia, it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: this is just a bit of a titanic sort of example,
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: is that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: We are absolutely sore. We're all over here.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: At our our political class and our bureau credit class
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: are sawing the branch off and we're all going to
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: fall into the abyss. You know, once upon a time,
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: we supported projects, we supported economic growth, we supported the
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: need for jobs, particularly in regional communities. We're doing this,
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: but you know what I mean, the Coalition have done
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: this too. My government approved a high value agricultural project
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: on Cape York would have provided jobs and economic opportunity
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: for indigenous people on the Cave, and Susan Layer is
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: the Federal Environment Minister, and a coalition government killed it
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: after it had been through many years of approvals. So
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: both sides of politics have got things to answer. And
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: these sorts of decisions which ultimately hurt Australians.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Well, let's hope they backflip on. I don't know they will,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: but let's hope they do. Let's talk state election now.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: David Christal fully he's out there talking up his priorities.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: He's a bit of what he had to say.
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: Youth, crime, health, housing and cost of living. I firmly
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: believe they are the battle lines for this election. There are, however,
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: some massive challenges but also opportunities that if given the
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: privilege of governing, I intend to focus very firmly on.
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: One is productivity and another is finally bringing taxation and
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: regulation certainty back to Queensland.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Has he got it right?
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, it's good to hear him saying that, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: I just look for a bit more, a bit more
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: detail when he talks about productivity.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: This is the guy who at the Queensland Media.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: Club in the last two years when asked about the
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: size of the public service, which has out by tens
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: of thousands of people.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: So it's about the right size.
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: And if there's an area where we need productivity, we
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: need reform, where we need a public service to be
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: a service, to put the community first and their own
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: pay packets and job conditions.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: For themselves.
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: It's about here in the public service in queens and
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: we need, we desperately need reform. And he's going to
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: have to attack that as a priority.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got too many public servants in every state
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: right around the country. The incumbent, Stephen Miles admits it's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: going to be quote a tough ass to get Queenslanders
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to even think about voting labor. That sounds like a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: bloke who reckons he lost already.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: Oh well, he's got to play the you know, the
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: sort of the underdog here. It's called expectation management, but
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: I think it is increasingly looking like we're going to
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: see David Christoph Foley as the next premier. And there's
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: some real warnings here for Anthony Albanie as well. I
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: think that Queenslanders won't just stop at giving labor at
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: the state level.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: A dust up.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: I think it's coming for for the federal labor as well.
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: Not that there's many seats that they hold up here,
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: but their hopes of perhaps clawing something back from the
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Greens etcetera, well maybe that's going to be particularly difficult
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: now as well.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Now I'm loaded to raise this. I mean, this Olympic
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Stadium has become a joke, this thing. I mean, it's
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: all over the place. First they're going to upgrade the Gabba.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Then we've got the new stadium at Victoria Park, then
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: fix up q Sack. Now it seems if David Chris
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Ihahlei wins, he'll go back to the Gabba proposal. Campbell,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: can you sort this? Can't you be made the czar
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: of stadiums up there and sort this out?
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: No?
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: No wanted to point me to I think Steve because
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: I'd get it done. Well why not, Well they don't
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: want people like that. Yeah, I'm joking, of course, but
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: that seems to be the way we operate in Australia today.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: If we don't want it done, we picked the usual suspects.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: But look, I think David's getting himself in a bit
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: of a muddle here. The GABA is going to be
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: extremely expensive and extremely disruptive to get it right for
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: the Olympics. If that's his choice. Qusak, He's right, it's
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: a disaster. It's got terrible public transport. It is just
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: the worst of all options. And Steven Miles sort of
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: keeps pushing this like a drunk clinging to that proverbial
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: lamp paste. Just give it up, Premier, give it up players.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: So David's on the right track to say goodbye to that.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: But the GABRA, I'm afraid I think is going to
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: be a pretty bad option. So my sort of pick
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: on the whole thing is a new stadium Hamilta north Shore.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: There's a private sector sort of group that want to
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: push that saying they will do it, They'll provide most
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: of the capital, and I think that they'll be limited
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: sort of pressure on the taxpayers funds to get that
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: off the ground. So that's what I support. But I
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: do think we need a new Stay and I've been
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: on a bit of a journey here myself, so you know,
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: but I think we've got to put our best foot
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: forward for the Olympics.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: It's a never ending road, I've got to say. Campbell
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Newman also, pleasure to catch up with you on a
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Friday night. Thank you, my friend. Now still ahead. Vice
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: President Kamala Harris Well, she sat down for her first
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: interview since becoming the presidential candidate. But what do we
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: really learn, if anything, about her as a person? My
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: panel away in sooner. Next monding Michael Gina Reinhardt. We've
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: talked a lot about her tonight. She says our schools
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: are teaching children propaganda over facts. Education expert Kevin Donnelly
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: on whether the system is too woke. That's next, Welcome
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: back to Price with You. Danika de Giorgio coming up
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. My panel had joined
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: me shortly. It's been a big week for a billionaire
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Gena Rehinhart, and we mentioned at the start of the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: program her comments on the dash to renewables and how
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: dangerous it is. She's also climbed into the education system
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: this week. She slammed Australia's woke education system and has
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: called on the government to overhaul the curriculum. Here's what
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: she had to say.
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: Why would our school children want defend our country in future?
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: A country they've learned not to like, even to hate.
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: They are taught that it is wrong to say there
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: are two genders, indeed even told off if they say that.
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: They are being taught propaganda rather than facts and work
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: causes instead of understanding rationale and logic. Can you believe
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: that in the entire high school economics and business curriculum, mining,
• 34:43
  Speaker 10: coal and iron ore do not receive even a single mention.
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: From the gold Russian vendigo to the iron ore exports
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: of the last five decades, our country has been underpinned
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: by mining. So how can we call this an economic
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: and business curriculum if our school children don't learn what
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: underpins so much of our economy.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Well, things have certainly changed since I was at school.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: We have certainly taught about the gold Rush, We talk
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: about the Eureka Stockade, we learned about that part of
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Australian history. I'm surprised, and that's the first time I've
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: heard that that's disappeared from the curriculum. Joining me now
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to discuss whether Gena ehin Hutt is correct about this.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Senior research fellow ACU doctor Kevin Donnelly. Good to see
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: you again, Kevin. I know your opinion on this. You've
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: been expressing it brilliantly for years. Gina makes a pretty
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: good point, doesn't she.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Steve, and she's well, she's right.
• 35:45
  Speaker 13: And as you know, we've talked about this, others have
• 35:49
  Speaker 13: talked and written about this over the last thirty forty years.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I mean there are two issues here for me.
• 35:55
  Speaker 13: One is about nation building, having pride in the country,
• 35:58
  Speaker 13: and the other is about climate alarmism, about how young
• 36:02
  Speaker 13: people for years.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Now and it goes back to al Gore.
• 36:06
  Speaker 13: You might remember that video many years ago, an Inconvenient Truth,
• 36:11
  Speaker 13: which lied about what was happening in terms of climate change.
• 36:15
  Speaker 13: I mean that went to schools around Australia. There was
• 36:18
  Speaker 13: a book at the time as well, called New Wave
• 36:20
  Speaker 13: Geography that talked about mining companies like BHP being the enemy.
• 36:27
  Speaker 13: So whether it's climate change, whether it's nation building, there
• 36:31
  Speaker 13: is a serious issue here. And as you know, I
• 36:34
  Speaker 13: reviewed the National Curriculum in twenty fourteen and that really
• 36:38
  Speaker 13: brought home, how things like the environment, sustainability, they are
• 36:43
  Speaker 13: key issues that all subjects have to address.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: But there's no balance.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I mentioned that, you know, back in ancient history when
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I went to school, we learned about the Eureka Stockade,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: we learned about the gold Rush, we learned about the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: influx of Chinese people into Australia to work on the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: gold fields. I mean we learned all that. Would I
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: be shocked now, Kevin to go back teleport myself back
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: into a classroom as a year ten or eleven student
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: about what I was not being taught.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Well, it's changed completely.
• 37:16
  Speaker 13: I mean in the history subject there is mention of
• 37:19
  Speaker 13: Eureka Stockade, I'll have to say that, and the gold rushes.
• 37:22
  Speaker 13: But the problem is so few students are now studying
• 37:26
  Speaker 13: history because most of it is what Jeffrey Blaney, our
• 37:30
  Speaker 13: great historian called, or called a black armband view. So
• 37:34
  Speaker 13: it's very negative, it's very pessimistic. And the IPA did
• 37:38
  Speaker 13: a survey only a couple of years ago asking eighteen
• 37:41
  Speaker 13: to twenty four year old would they defend Australia God
• 37:45
  Speaker 13: help us if we were invaded, and about thirty two
• 37:49
  Speaker 13: percent said yes. The rest said no. They wouldn't defend
• 37:53
  Speaker 13: the nation or they didn't really care. So what we
• 37:57
  Speaker 13: now have our generations of young people who taught this
• 38:00
  Speaker 13: black armband view, which is all very pessimistic or very negative.
• 38:05
  Speaker 13: There's nothing to celebrate about Western culture, about the origins
• 38:09
  Speaker 13: of this nation. As you know, during the campaign about
• 38:12
  Speaker 13: the Voice, it was all about the critics saying we
• 38:16
  Speaker 13: were invaded, we committed genocide. The woke activists have taken
• 38:22
  Speaker 13: over the curriculum, and I just hope if it is
• 38:26
  Speaker 13: one term elbow and there's a new government under Peter Dutton,
• 38:30
  Speaker 13: that we change that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he could do better than to start to talk
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: about that. Kevin Donnelly, thank you very much for joining us.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I've got to say it puts a huge amount of
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: responsibility onto the shoulders of parents. Now still ahead, another
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: labor backflip, Why a denity politics is winning again? And short,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: superficial and full of waffle. That's how Kamala Harris and
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Tim Waltz's highly anticipated first interview has been described. I'll
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: find out if my panel up next. Welcome back to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Steve Price with you on this Friday night. Now, I
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: put myself through the torture today of watching US Vice
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: President Kamala Harris sitting down for her first interview today
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: as the presidential nominee. It's amazing she's been in hiding
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: for weeks from asking or answering any serious questions from reporters.
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  Speaker 1: She chose to do the interview, not surprisingly, on the
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  Speaker 1: CNN network with the host Dana Bash. She even brought
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  Speaker 1: along her running mate Tim Waltz. Is sort of some
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  Speaker 1: security blanket now. Kamala Harris was asked what she would do.
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  Speaker 1: This is the first question. What a hand passed. This
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  Speaker 1: was what she would do on day one if elected.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look.
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  Speaker 3: One of my highest priorities is to do what we
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  Speaker 3: can to support and strengthen the middle class. When I
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  Speaker 3: look at the aspirations, the gals, the ambitions of the
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  Speaker 3: American people, I think that people are ready for a
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  Speaker 3: new way forward in a way that generations of Americans
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  Speaker 3: have been fueled by hope and by optimism.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about putting you to sleep. I mean this thing
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  Speaker 1: was pre recorded, so I don't know if that was
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  Speaker 1: actually the first question and the first answer. But where's
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  Speaker 1: some vibrancy, Where's someone you want to follow into battle?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, a new way forward. Now, hasn't this
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  Speaker 1: woman been in the White House's vice president for the
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  Speaker 1: last four years? What the hell has she been doing?
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  Speaker 1: She was then asked about criticism that she was flip
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  Speaker 1: flopping on policies, including fracking. Ever listened to the answer,
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  Speaker 1: do you still.
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  Speaker 12: Want to banfracking?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 3: And I made that clear on the debate stage in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty that I would not banfracking as vice president.
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  Speaker 3: I did not bandfracking. As president, I will not bandfracking.
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  Speaker 3: In twenty nineteen, I believe at a town hall you
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  Speaker 3: said you were asked, would you commit to implementing a
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  Speaker 3: federal ban on fracking on your first day in office?
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  Speaker 1: And you said there's no question in favor of banning fracking.
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  Speaker 3: So yes.
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  Speaker 1: So it changed in that campaign.
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  Speaker 3: In twenty twenty. I mean very clear where I stand.
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  Speaker 3: We are in twenty twenty four, and I've not changed
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  Speaker 3: that position or will I going forward. I kept my
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  Speaker 3: word and I will keep my word.
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  Speaker 8: What made you change that position at the time, Well,
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  Speaker 8: let's be clear.
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  Speaker 1: My values have not changed. Gee, Big Tim wasn't much help.
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  Speaker 1: Now joined me to discuss this and a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: Is tonight's panel Small business Women Australia CEO Amanda Rosensky
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  Speaker 1: and news contributor Joe hulde Brand. Great to see you
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  Speaker 1: both as usual on a Friday night, Joe, Yes, we
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  Speaker 1: can you. What's the explanation here? Is she trying to
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  Speaker 1: sort of downplay everything and be sort of calm and
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  Speaker 1: think the thinking person's candidate as opposed to the circus
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  Speaker 1: that surrounds Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 5: What's going on if you just follow the pendulum here, pricey,
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  Speaker 5: She never said that she wanted to ban fracking. That
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  Speaker 5: was all just in your imagination. Now, close your eyes
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  Speaker 5: and go to sleep, and when you wake up with.
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  Speaker 2: The lad just be a dream.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a pretty It was a pretty ridiculous
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  Speaker 5: interview was ridiculous before it even started. I'm reminded of
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  Speaker 5: all the other presidents who sat down for their first
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  Speaker 5: big interview with their running mates next to them.
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  Speaker 6: Let me think that would be I think zero. When
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  Speaker 6: was the last time he saw.
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  Speaker 5: Albo and Richard Marles sit down for a joint interview together?
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  Speaker 5: On seven point thirty? I mean the fact that she
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: needed to Involtz there at all, and the fact that
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: he was going to do it with her, you know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Batman and Robin together in case Batman gets in trouble,
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: then Robin can sweep in and untie the ropes and
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: save him from the save him from the conveyor belt.
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  Speaker 6: It's all pretty ridiculous. The only things of.
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  Speaker 5: Substance that she said were reversals of three key positions,
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  Speaker 5: which is basically fracking, as you said, where she did
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  Speaker 5: unequivocally say she wanted to ban it in twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 5: and then refers to her position in twenty twenty, and
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  Speaker 5: she's kept that word, as she said, kept that promise,
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  Speaker 5: although I didn't keep the promise before that, which was
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  Speaker 5: the opposite.
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  Speaker 6: I also said she'd supply arms to Israel.
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  Speaker 5: Prior to that, she was said to be much more
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  Speaker 5: pro Palestinian and urging more, urging more support for Palestine
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  Speaker 5: rather than Israel. And the other thing she did, of course,
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: was say that she was going to be tough on
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  Speaker 5: border security, which the borders I did not.
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  Speaker 1: So well, Amanda, Amanda, you're a great salesperson. You exude enthusiasm.
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  Speaker 1: You're one of those sort of people that you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you said to me, right, oh we're going over
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  Speaker 1: the trenches, follow me, I'd be there with you. This
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  Speaker 1: woman has got no charisma whatsoever.
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  Speaker 14: Look, I think natural charisma comes from a true passion
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  Speaker 14: for caring about the people, the country and wanting change. So,
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  Speaker 14: regardless of what side of politics you're on, people that
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  Speaker 14: genuinely believe in helping and making a positive change, it's infectious.
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  Speaker 14: You want to follow them. You want to, you know,
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  Speaker 14: believe everything that they say. And unfortunately she's sending off
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  Speaker 14: vibes of I'm here, I'm going to do what I'm told,
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  Speaker 14: and that is why she does change her views. And
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  Speaker 14: if you look at it, a lot of the changes
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  Speaker 14: are usually connected in some way to big, powerful conglomerates
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  Speaker 14: or organizations that say, oh, we don't want you to
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  Speaker 14: say that anymore, we want you to say this. And unfortunately,
• 44:30
  Speaker 14: if we have government officials or you know, politicians from
• 44:34
  Speaker 14: any side that can change what they stand for simply
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  Speaker 14: because someone higher up, so it could be someone with money,
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  Speaker 14: usually tells them to do that.
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  Speaker 8: We're in big trouble.
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  Speaker 1: What is the interesting thing, Joe, You've got charisma?
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  Speaker 2: Two.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to leave you out on the charismas goal, mate.
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  Speaker 1: I'm apologized.
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  Speaker 6: I was going to say.
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  Speaker 5: One of the interesting things that come with us almost
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: like a new tick instead of a nervous laugh. Is
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: she'll not while she's saying something, as if she's agreeing
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  Speaker 5: with herself, as if she's just hearing.
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  Speaker 6: It for her first time. My position has changed, but
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  Speaker 6: my values haven't changed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we all do a bit too much
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  Speaker 1: nodding Joe Anthony Albanezi this backflip on the government's decision
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  Speaker 1: to take out of the senses questions about what people's
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  Speaker 1: gender and sexuality is in a census that's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be run for another two years. This is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of backflipping and yes it's in, No, it's out.
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  Speaker 1: He was on the ABC this morning. This is his explanation.
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  Speaker 1: There will be a sexuality preference, sexuality or sexual preference
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  Speaker 1: question in the senses.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yes, there will, as long as the testing goes
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  Speaker 4: okay and a question can be developed in a way
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  Speaker 4: that is sensitive and that gets the information that is required,
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  Speaker 4: and the ABS will be testing that there's a draft
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  Speaker 4: question has been developed.
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  Speaker 1: Someone else with the career a bypass. But Joe, why
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  Speaker 1: is he even getting himself involved in this.
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  Speaker 6: It's a very good question.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't want to It's a short answer, full disclaim.
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  Speaker 5: My wife is the communications and media director for Equality Australia,
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  Speaker 5: so I have some intimate knowledge of this as I'm
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: walking past her office, as she's on the phone twelve
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  Speaker 5: hours a day, so she's been very heavily involved in this.
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  Speaker 5: But it's not necessarily a backlip, and it's not something
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  Speaker 5: he wanted to go out and do precisely because he
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: doesn't want to be seen to be focused on anything
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: but cost of living at the moment. What it is
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  Speaker 5: is there was a sort of push earlier on and
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  Speaker 5: push years ago in fact, for this question to be
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  Speaker 5: included in the future on the census. So it's not
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  Speaker 5: like he's getting taking it out.
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  Speaker 6: Of the census.
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  Speaker 5: It was a proposal for a new question to be
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: on the census to capture people's sexuality, so you could
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  Speaker 5: map the data of you know, what sexuality Australians were where,
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  Speaker 5: just like they map the data of religion or racial
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  Speaker 5: or ethnic background, all that sort of stuff. And frankly,
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  Speaker 5: I think the government just had it well and truly
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  Speaker 5: on the back burner.
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  Speaker 6: Want to touch it by barge, I think you probably
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  Speaker 6: imagine my question.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he should just leave it alone. I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand it a man.
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  Speaker 6: Austrailia have come out and said no, you have to
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  Speaker 6: do this, this is something you said you.
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  Speaker 14: But if you understand I think what people need to
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  Speaker 14: understand is how the sense how the census works. So
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  Speaker 14: people actually put in submissions from associations, Individuals put in
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  Speaker 14: submissions like an inquiry of what they think would work
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  Speaker 14: and which should be included and not And and if
• 47:32
  Speaker 14: people don't put in the submissions, they're kind of not heard.
• 47:35
  Speaker 14: And with the like, for example, with religion, they want
• 47:37
  Speaker 14: to take out the option of selecting which religion you
• 47:40
  Speaker 14: are and simply have are you religious, yes or no?
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  Speaker 14: And that means that pretty much people that identify particular religion,
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  Speaker 14: and you know, it's quite a big deal for a
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  Speaker 14: lot of people, especially in Western Sydney, that's completely eliminated.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing I remember about the census, Joe, is
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: last time we tried to do it, they did it
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  Speaker 1: online and crashed in five minutes.
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  Speaker 6: That's how that could out anybody. But yes, that the
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  Speaker 6: religious question is an interesting one.
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  Speaker 5: I think a lot of lapsed Catholics could fall off
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  Speaker 5: the radar because previously it was I listened to a
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  Speaker 5: whole bunch of other religions and then it was either
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  Speaker 5: none or other, so it still captures that. But yes,
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  Speaker 5: you're right there. It does say you know, it does
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  Speaker 5: give you right up front, now are you religious or not?
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  Speaker 5: And it might cause people to have a bit of
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: an existential crisis as they're filling it out to actually, no,
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  Speaker 5: maybe I'm not.
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  Speaker 6: Whereas previously they would have said, oh yeah, I'm an Anglican,
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah I'm a Catholic or whatever.
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  Speaker 14: They just essentially essentially trying to eliminate religion all together.
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  Speaker 14: And this is a slow way of doing it.
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  Speaker 1: But I presume you can just refuse to answer questions
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: if you don't want to do it. Amanda rose Or
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: was great to see you on a Friday, Joe Hildebrand. Likewise,
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  Speaker 1: Danika di Giorgio is up next.