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Mini: Revolving Doors · Why We Do What We Do

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  Speaker 2: Try to keep it short and sweet. I like to
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  Speaker 2: think of these as like your Snapple facts, where it's
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  Speaker 2: like just a little bit of information that you're going
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  Speaker 2: to drop into a into a discussion and then like
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  Speaker 2: get people talking about things like you know, for me,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that I ever would have studied why
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  Speaker 2: we do revolving doors, but I love revolving doors. They
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  Speaker 2: were so much fun when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, and that is why. It's because they're fun.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we created them.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's why.
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  Speaker 1: But we will talk about it. But this will be
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  Speaker 1: one of those things where someone will talk about revolving
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  Speaker 1: doors and you'll say, did you know that revolving door?
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  Speaker 1: And then you'll be able to actually exactly while pushing
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  Speaker 1: your glasses up just like you did. But this will
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  Speaker 1: this will be full of some fun facts. And so anyway,
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  Speaker 1: some context is I was in a place where there
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  Speaker 1: were a lot of revolving doors, and I was thinking,
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  Speaker 1: this feels like there's some element of control of human
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  Speaker 1: behavior behind the design of these things. So let's learn
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  Speaker 1: about where revolving doors come from and why we use them.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so, a revolving door is a large opening to
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  Speaker 2: a building with three or four panels or leaves about
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  Speaker 2: the door height from Florida ceiling or Florida frame, whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want to say. Yeah, Basically, they're usually mostly glass
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  Speaker 2: that are all joined on one long edge on a
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  Speaker 2: central pivoting shaft to create something like a fan of
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  Speaker 2: glass doors, sort of kind of like a turbine and
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  Speaker 2: a hydroelectric dam. So I view from the top, it
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  Speaker 2: would look like either a plus sign if it had
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  Speaker 2: four panels, or a Mercedes logo which would only have
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  Speaker 2: three panels if.
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  Speaker 1: You had never seen a revolving door. We're trying to
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  Speaker 1: paint a picture here of what it looks like that
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  Speaker 1: you might recognize it if you saw it. There are
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  Speaker 1: lots of movies too, so if you watch movies, you've
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  Speaker 1: probably seen one. But anyway, so the fan of doors
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  Speaker 1: is situated in the circular enclosure because they're going to
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  Speaker 1: rotate on that central pivoting shaft and the circular enclosure.
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  Speaker 1: There's an opening on the outside of the circular enclosure
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  Speaker 1: and an opening on the inside, so there's a clear
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  Speaker 1: opening that passes through. But the panels are spaced such
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  Speaker 1: that they exactly form a sort of V shape to
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  Speaker 1: the interior and exterior opening of that building. So on
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  Speaker 1: the inside, if they're perfectly lined up, the edges will
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  Speaker 1: exactly meet that opening, and the same will be true
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  Speaker 1: on the inside. What this means is that if you
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  Speaker 1: approach a revolving door that is flush with its opening
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  Speaker 1: the sort of edges of the opening, you'll walk into
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  Speaker 1: that opening between those panels that's that sort of V shape,
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  Speaker 1: and the door will rotate counterclockwise. In countries that drive
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  Speaker 1: on the right side of the road. It was actually
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  Speaker 1: curious as like, do these also go counterclockwise? Yeah? Actually sure, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you for countries that drive on the left side
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  Speaker 1: of the road, they're actually they're more likely to go
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  Speaker 1: clockwise apparently. And bridges it's mixed. Summer clockwise, some are counterclockwise.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay to me, I know, I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: would just wait till someone watched the door. Yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: mostly there rotating counterclockwise, meaning that when you go in,
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  Speaker 1: you'll go right, and you'll follow the motion of the
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  Speaker 1: door as they rotate around, and for a moment there
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  Speaker 1: you will be fully encased in the doors and the
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  Speaker 1: walls of that sort of system as it rotates. But
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  Speaker 1: eventually the panels that you are between will face the
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  Speaker 1: opposite opening, and you will exit the rotating doors, whether
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  Speaker 1: you're coming from inside or outside.
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  Speaker 2: So I think one of my favorite challenges of being
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  Speaker 2: on this podcast is being able to define things and
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  Speaker 2: describe things that are everyday or common things that we'd
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  Speaker 2: never thought we would have to describe, Like having to
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  Speaker 2: describe a revolving door is such a unique exercise.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's harder than you would think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, you did a great job.
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  Speaker 1: It's a door that revolves. What do you want?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, door, it turns. Why would I need to explain
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  Speaker 2: it anymore? A last here we are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Sometimes the doors are automated so that they move electronically,
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  Speaker 2: often on a sensor when someone enters. So basically they'll
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  Speaker 2: walk in, they'll they'll cross some barrier and that senser
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  Speaker 2: will pick it up and they'll start turning. They might
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  Speaker 2: break and stay in place if someone attempts to push
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  Speaker 2: it in the opposite direction. Some rotating doors are ma
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  Speaker 2: annually operated, meaning that they only move when a user
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  Speaker 2: moves them, usually by simply pushing the door or a
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  Speaker 2: handle on the door in the desired direction, or whichever
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  Speaker 2: direction the actual door turns.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so there it is, painting that colorful picture
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  Speaker 1: of what a revolving door is and how it works,
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  Speaker 1: and more or less details that one might need. And
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  Speaker 1: so the question then becomes again, why revolving doors? What's
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  Speaker 1: the purpose of these? Is it to facilitate foot traffic
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  Speaker 1: because it kind of seems like they move sort of slow,
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  Speaker 1: so you really can't get people entering and exiting very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Is it to block people from rapidly exiting and entering.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe is it to impart a particular feeling of being
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  Speaker 1: trapped just so that you feel relieved when you get
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  Speaker 1: on the other side. Sure of, like you know, it
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  Speaker 1: feels good to fart, to just let it out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. Anyway, So those are some questions that
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  Speaker 1: I had, and the answer is yes to a few
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  Speaker 1: of them.
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  Speaker 2: So if you have ever been in a major city,
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  Speaker 2: you have probably revolving door that is usually full of people.
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  Speaker 2: On this show, sometimes we have ads and it's always
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  Speaker 2: a revolving door there too, and we're back. So welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: You've arrived on the other side of that revolving door.
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  Speaker 1: Yes you made it through.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you went through. You went in from the outside,
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  Speaker 2: and now you're on the inside here in this podcast,
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  Speaker 2: in our luscious voices. So, revolving doors have many functions
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  Speaker 2: and benefits depending on situation. For one, they help regulate
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  Speaker 2: the air and temperature between inside and outside of a building,
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  Speaker 2: so I for high rise buildings in particular, air pressure
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  Speaker 2: and heating and air conditioning is tricky and expensive. Rotating
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  Speaker 2: doors prevent a lot of air from escaping or entering
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  Speaker 2: the building relative to normal doors when people use them,
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  Speaker 2: and this actually saves on energy and cost as well
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  Speaker 2: as ensuring a comfortable indoor environment. And there is some
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  Speaker 2: speculation that this may also help prevent airborne pathogens from
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  Speaker 2: entering the airspace of a building, which I would imagine
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  Speaker 2: like a door that stays open could probably allow greater
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  Speaker 2: you know, biological enemies in if you will.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the door opens and it's like
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  Speaker 1: there's no, there's no like air lock.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't like compartmentalize it.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, exactly, that's a better way of saying it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that that prevents it from getting in. Who's to say
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  Speaker 1: whether it works as well as one might hope, but
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  Speaker 1: certainly better than just an opening that's just there. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: because these are never, actually not never the vast majority
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  Speaker 1: of time, they cannot be oriented in such a way
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  Speaker 1: that air can pass all the way through that opening
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  Speaker 1: and into the building, because however the doors are arranged,
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  Speaker 1: they will always form a block that prevents air from
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  Speaker 1: flowing through.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Revolving doors are always open, but always.
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  Speaker 1: Closed exactly, yeah, exactly right. And actually that kind of
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  Speaker 1: leads to another purpose and benefit of a revolving door,
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  Speaker 1: and the reason for them is that because they always
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  Speaker 1: form a barrier, that also means that they do help
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  Speaker 1: constantly block sounds from the outside. There's really never a
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  Speaker 1: time when the seal between the inside and outside is broken,
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  Speaker 1: and so it it does help just keep out some
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  Speaker 1: of the constant noises that you'd otherwise hear if doors
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  Speaker 1: were swinging open and shut all the time or unlike
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  Speaker 1: an automated door sliding open and shut. And they do
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  Speaker 1: help control the flow of foot traffic in a way
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  Speaker 1: because it sort of controls how quickly people can enter
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  Speaker 1: an exit. You just really can't get a huge rush
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  Speaker 1: of anyone ever at one time, so that can help.
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  Speaker 1: And also relevant to that in a way is that
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  Speaker 1: they can't be slammed at all. And I mean a
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  Speaker 1: lot of doors have those those things that essentially slow
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  Speaker 1: their closing. Yeah, but these also like because they never
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  Speaker 1: actually open and shut, they're never slammed, So you never
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  Speaker 1: have the sound of a door slamming, you don't really
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  Speaker 1: have the sounds of the outside, and you don't have
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  Speaker 1: a huge amount of foot traffic that can come through
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  Speaker 1: at once.
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  Speaker 2: Right and anymore, Revolving doors are built fairly large, so
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  Speaker 2: large in fact that they are often much wider than
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  Speaker 2: a typical door, which improves their accessibility for people in
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  Speaker 2: wheelchairs or carrying oversized objects such as luggage or furniture.
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  Speaker 2: And because of their size, the fact that many of
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  Speaker 2: them have a mechanism by which doors can be fully opened,
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  Speaker 2: they can actually function as an emergency exit if needed.
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  Speaker 2: They can basically the fans can either fold in on themselves,
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  Speaker 2: or there's some mechanism that basically removes the blockage and
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  Speaker 2: does open a wider space for people to leave.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And then it ends up being wider than normal
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  Speaker 1: doors would sort of be anyway, right, And similarly, they
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  Speaker 1: note that this could potentially be a security thing if
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  Speaker 1: there was someone who, for example, was stealing something and
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to prevent their leaving, they could technically just
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  Speaker 1: lock those doors in place and there's really no way
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  Speaker 1: to get through them, So that could be a thing
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  Speaker 1: as well. But there are of course several disadvantages to
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  Speaker 1: revolving doors. As I've mentioned several times now. They are
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  Speaker 1: very large, right, and that means that they take up
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  Speaker 1: much more space than a typical door would and may
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  Speaker 1: not make sense in a building that just has limited
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  Speaker 1: sort of space for that sort of thing limited real
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  Speaker 1: estate in the wall or the floor plan or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: because it's going to extend into that space, out of
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  Speaker 1: that space and take up a huge chunk of the wall.
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  Speaker 1: So they kind of only work when you have a
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  Speaker 1: pretty large space that you're working with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I don't know about you, but I tend
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  Speaker 2: to have a like low grade anxiety when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to walking through revolving doors, even though I love I
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  Speaker 2: love them for the same reason I have a blast
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  Speaker 2: on escalators. I have a low grade anxiety, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it's because of all the fears that the nineties
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  Speaker 2: have taught us, like you're gonna get sucked into the
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  Speaker 2: escalator or caught in the door. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you have those thoughts at all. Like I'm fluent and
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  Speaker 2: using revolving doors, but it still makes me a little
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  Speaker 2: bit nervous to get caught in it because it can happen. Right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so most revolving doors are very safe, but nevertheless, there
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  Speaker 2: is an increased risk of getting a finger caught in
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  Speaker 2: a door or jewelry or clothing stuff like that. And
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  Speaker 2: despite the fact that they can make a good exit,
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  Speaker 2: they still form a bottleneck for a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: exiting at once and maybe require to be supplemented by
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  Speaker 2: additional emergency exit doors of a standard variety. And I've
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  Speaker 2: seen buildings where you have the revolving door, and then
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  Speaker 2: on either side there are just kind of standard doors
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  Speaker 2: that you can walk through if you have some type
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  Speaker 2: of phobia related to walking through a revolving door.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or again in the case of an emergency or
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  Speaker 1: for whatever they might be needed. But yeah, you're exactly right,
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  Speaker 1: as they do typically have it sort of as an option,
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  Speaker 1: and they generally prefer people use the revolving door for
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  Speaker 1: most standard use, but there could be circumstances under which
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  Speaker 1: it makes more sense to have all of those doors
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  Speaker 1: in play, or some of them, or just the alternative
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  Speaker 1: sort of standard open and closed door variety, et cetera. Right,
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  Speaker 1: and then finally, revolving doors, as we're talking about disadvantages here,
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  Speaker 1: they are often much much heavier than typical doors, which
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  Speaker 1: may be more difficult for people to use when they
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  Speaker 1: have limited mobility if they're like the manually operated doors.
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  Speaker 1: So I found a few different varieties. There's some doors
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  Speaker 1: that kind of spin at sort of just a slow,
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  Speaker 1: gentle pace that you can just kind of walk into
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  Speaker 1: and they'll just move along. There are some that only
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  Speaker 1: move on a sensor, so you get in and they
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  Speaker 1: start moving. There are some that are like electronically assisted,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like they don't move on their own, but
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  Speaker 1: if you push them, they'll kind of start to move. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and there's like a thing that helps them. And then
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  Speaker 1: they're the ones that are just completely manual, where you
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  Speaker 1: go in and you just push them yourself. And so
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  Speaker 1: for those that are just you have to manually operate them,
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  Speaker 1: they're heavy. I mean, they're just really big doors, like
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  Speaker 1: they just take up They're very heavy, and they weigh
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  Speaker 1: a lot, and they're also forming that pressure seal against
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  Speaker 1: the glass, so you're kind of finding multiple forces. So
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  Speaker 1: if you are someone who's maybe has a cane or
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  Speaker 1: you just have limited mobility for whatever reason, that could
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  Speaker 1: end up proving more difficult than it would be to
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  Speaker 1: just have like one of those you press a button
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  Speaker 1: in the door opens and you go in, or a
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  Speaker 1: sliding glass door or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Cool, All right, Well that's what I have to say
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  Speaker 1: about revolving doors. I think is there anything you'd like
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  Speaker 1: to add or anything that we forgot before we revolve
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  Speaker 1: this one closed.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite revolving door that I've ever gone through is
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  Speaker 2: the one at the hospital that I was born at.
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  Speaker 2: I just remember, I have like the fond memories of
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  Speaker 2: like visiting my mom on the day my brother was born.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, exiting when you were born.
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  Speaker 2: Exiting when I was born. Yeah, yeah, that's too. So
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  Speaker 2: just I just really loved It's a very early member.
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  Speaker 2: I was maybe three, and I just really loved going
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  Speaker 2: around and around and around in that and that revolving door.
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  Speaker 2: So I hadn't really thought about that until this episode.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you for that.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome. That reminds me of the scene on I
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  Speaker 1: think it was Elf where he gets into the New
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  Speaker 1: York City, finds a revolving door and is just yelling
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  Speaker 1: as he runs around in circles inside of the little
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  Speaker 1: trium thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was about that's all when I was three,
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  Speaker 2: So that's a pretty accurate picture, huh.
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  Speaker 1: I generally have kind of enjoyed them. I definitely thought
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  Speaker 1: that they were fun when I was a kid, and
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  Speaker 1: now they are sometimes fun and sometimes obnoxious. And I've
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  Speaker 1: seen some very older, like some very old models of
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  Speaker 1: revolving doors where it's like really skinny. It's basically the
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  Speaker 1: width of an actual door, and so you basically can
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  Speaker 1: only fit one person in at a time, and it's
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  Speaker 1: the really tight Showeez. Yeah you kind of yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: exactly right. You kind of have to shuffle to push
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  Speaker 1: the doors because you don't have enough space to even
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  Speaker 1: like get.
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  Speaker 2: A stride in your step, right, right, and.
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  Speaker 1: So like those are probably less than ideal, but for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, I think they serve an important function
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  Speaker 1: in some places. So but yeah, that's revolving doors.
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