Latest / The Art of Costume Podcast / The Great - Season Two
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- 0:12Though, I will say, I did yelp when he stabbed her hand, I was
- 0:15not emotionally prepared for that.
- 0:17Right? Right.
- 0:19I was like, oh, this is serious. Yeah.
- 0:23And like stabbing in the hand. You know, how you don't like,
- 0:25people crawling on the walls? Yeah, I don't like people
- 0:29getting Stabbed in the hand. I'm like I can't I can't do
- 0:33that. I have a phobia of that cast.
- 0:45I'm Elizabeth Joy glass and I'm Spencer the great hello
- 0:49Elizabeth hello Spencer huzzah huzzah wowee.
- 0:55I feel like we should just get into this Cove the great season
- 0:592. Is even crazier than the great
- 1:03season one. Yeah, some of you might be
- 1:07wondering, hey what happened to season one?
- 1:09Well, luckily, for you, we did our Patron episode this month,
- 1:14all about the great season one. So if you really want to keep
- 1:17time into those costumes, head over to our patreon, we have a
- 1:21great episode there. Today's all about up season to
- 1:24yesterday's all about season. Two of you haven't seen season
- 1:28to get Hulu. It's kind of cheap with that
- 1:32only costs, The Who ads are so loud.
- 1:35Have you noticed this? They are.
- 1:37This is okay. This is a problem.
- 1:39I have not just with Hulu but like with the YouTube and other
- 1:43like platforms that have commercials I'm like, I can
- 1:47barely hear the show. Y and then I'm like startled.
- 1:51I'm like I'm almost scared to death on a regular basis when I
- 1:55watch these platforms because it's like the commercials are so
- 1:59loud. Full disclosure, I had to watch
- 2:02both seasons of The Great in preparation for a recordings
- 2:05this week, so that's that's 20 episodes.
- 2:08So that includes some time in bed and I like you do not have
- 2:13the best hearing. So I have my volume at like, a
- 2:17solid 100 in bed and still, you could sometimes barely make out
- 2:22like what Catherine saying you're and ones Whispering.
- 2:25I have subtitles on suddenly Hulu is Lasting this IMVU
- 2:32commercial at, like, 1:00 in the morning that like, shakes my
- 2:36entire apartment building, Lily shakes my entire nervous system.
- 2:43I can't, I'm just like, like if I have some sort of medical
- 2:49emergency while watching Hulu, Hulu should be blamed because
- 2:54what they're the loudness of their commercials, probably
- 2:57triggered. It that being said, We still are
- 3:00looking for sponsors. So feel free to hit us up but
- 3:04yeah, it's just we need to talk about the volume of your
- 3:07commercials. That's all there needs to be an
- 3:09adjustment in that area may be like we're in a commercial
- 3:13start. The vibe automatically adjust,
- 3:16you know, like like the brightness on your phone.
- 3:20Yes, we need that for audio. Well, if you're listening to
- 3:25this podcast I hope you're wearing comfortable headphones.
- 3:28Yeah. And enjoying are Umm I don't
- 3:30think we're very loud. I don't think we are.
- 3:32I hope or not. Yeah, house with admire to calm
- 3:36collected. Soothing yeah, soothing
- 3:40soothing, soothing voices better my cup of tea?
- 3:43Yes. Yes.
- 3:46I'm your ride to work at a comfortable level.
- 3:51As you Glide down the highway Let's get into the great season
- 4:022. It is an occasionally true
- 4:04story, everybody, and being the history nerd that I am.
- 4:08I have to stress how Loosely based on history this really is.
- 4:14And if you want to know the real story of Catherine, the Great
- 4:18there is the wonderful YouTube Channel History, tea time with
- 4:22lynsey holiday. She does a great two-part series
- 4:26on Catherine, the Great PBS Masterpiece, This also has a
- 4:30mini series on Catherine, the Great.
- 4:33And if you have young ones and you want to teach them about
- 4:36strong, female leaders throughout history.
- 4:39The Royal Diaries has a historical fiction book called
- 4:44Catherine, the Great journey. I love the freight.
- 4:48So, if you want to know the real story or educate, your young
- 4:52ones, here are your resource. I believe.
- 4:55I thought I read that season 2. They changed it to like like a
- 4:59The barely true story or something.
- 5:02I don't know. Yeah, well, that's the goal for
- 5:04a season 3, I don't know. No, it was definitely season two
- 5:08like after her husband died within.
- 5:11Like, I think weeks of her like, taking over died in prison right
- 5:18clothes. All right.
- 5:23Well, I'll bring us in with a summary.
- 5:26This is the summary for the great season 2.
- 5:30Four months after she launched a coup against her husband,
- 5:33Catherine gains the upper hand in her war against Peter and her
- 5:37reign as a begins. But with the crown comes a
- 5:40variety of obstacles, including grief, pregnancy, crocodiles
- 5:46macaroons, and even a visit from Catherine's mother and that is
- 5:51season 2 that is season 2. If you don't want spoilers, stop
- 5:56turn around. Go to Hulu, don't forget the
- 5:59lower the volume. In commercials or going behind
- 6:02the Wardrobe, we have series Creator, Tony McNamara, and
- 6:07costume designer. Sharon long Spencer, what the
- 6:12hell are you doing? I knew you had a weight on your
- 6:16desk. I knew you had a wig on your
- 6:18desk. Oh my gosh.
- 6:22Spencer, you're like it. I love it.
- 6:29Oh my gosh, this guy. He was like, showing me
- 6:33something yesterday and I'm like, oh, Spencer, you have a
- 6:37wig on your desk and he's like, no.
- 6:39I don't know, I don't know. I don't like like really
- 6:41thought. I don't know why you're denying
- 6:43it but okay. It was so stupid.
- 6:46I was trying to say something else was like, oh crap.
- 6:49She's on the wig. All I could do is just deny.
- 6:55I was like too. Very strange when I guess it's
- 6:57his business. Let's see.
- 6:59You fit inspired by Peter. Yeah, I've just really, I've
- 7:04just really become such a period person.
- 7:06Over all of our past episodes. The Gilded Age we're talking
- 7:10about doing Bridge Orton, you know, the great, all these
- 7:14different period, things they've done.
- 7:16I'm just diving into this world. I am Spencer, the great.
- 7:20You know, this is my world. I got the wig, I got the T, I'm
- 7:23ready, I love it. I love it.
- 7:25Of it. I was gonna send one to you, but
- 7:30I thought that would have needed some explaining plus I just
- 7:34didn't. Yeah, I'm sorry.
- 7:37That's fine. There's always Bridget in any
- 7:44way we have costume designer. Sharon long, whose notable work
- 7:50is the Harry Styles. Music video, kiwi Chloe.
- 7:55Be excited about that. Sure, I talked to Cosmopolitan
- 8:03quite a bit about coming on to the great.
- 8:08She said and she said, I have to say they're not the most
- 8:12exciting dresses. She Catherine, the Great tended
- 8:16towards very loose clothing. There are some actual garments
- 8:20left and they wouldn't inspire you at all her wedding dress and
- 8:25her Her coronation dresses. Are the two that would take your
- 8:30breath away. I found it better to read about
- 8:33her. Then to look at those pieces of
- 8:35clothes clothing because you would never think they belonged
- 8:39to a queen. She tried very hard, not to over
- 8:43all people, so that she was very approachable.
- 8:46She never wore the same dress twice, if it made an impact,
- 8:51once it would never make the same impact again.
- 8:55So she was like season two new costume designer.
- 9:00She's like, okay, let's figure out who Catherine.
- 9:03The Great was and then was kind of like, oh hmm, never mind,
- 9:09never mind, that's real this back.
- 9:12And she really took inspiration from who Catherine?
- 9:16The woman was and then clearly kicked it up up up, like a
- 9:21million notches? Yes.
- 9:26She also talks about how her season one look impacted her
- 9:31designs for the second season, Sharon said season Once costume
- 9:37designer Emma. Fryer designed for Katherine as
- 9:41a very young woman. So she had quite youthful, fresh
- 9:45colors, like, pale blue, yellow. Mauve.
- 9:49It seemed appropriate to keep her in the same color ways.
- 9:53I couldn't see the character of In whose German and very
- 9:58practical suddenly going into dark colors.
- 10:02L, looks fantastic in pastels and you always want your Leading
- 10:06Lady to look her best towards the end of season 2.
- 10:10That's when I started breaking into other colors.
- 10:13I purposely left the red until the end.
- 10:17So she was like, you know what? Emma, fryer, she had it down.
- 10:21Yeah, well just color plays such a huge role.
- 10:25On the show. It really is like almost a part
- 10:28of the characters. It really is.
- 10:30And it's a lot of, you know, what, this series.
- 10:34I kind of get that feeling from Bram Stoker's Dracula, where
- 10:39it's like, the costumes are the sets.
- 10:41Yes. Cuz it's like, yes, the sets on
- 10:43this are fantastic, but you're constantly looking at the
- 10:46clothes like, oh yeah, always the clothes for sure, especially
- 10:50since 90% of the show. Both season one and season two,
- 10:54take place inside. The same Palace it like rarely
- 10:58leaves and when it does it goes to like the woods or that same
- 11:02like dumpy Battleground where they're just feeding people
- 11:04macaroons. So yeah it's like they're either
- 11:08at the palace are trying to fight and or end a war.
- 11:14But with that, we're going to take a little break e-brake
- 11:17before jumping into our first episode huzzah.
- 11:37Hi. This is Dan.
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- 12:03support. All right, let's get through
- 12:23this. Elizabeth has the ha.
- 12:26Now, we are in episode 1 heads, it's me after months of fighting
- 12:32in the palace, a pregnant. Kathryn, finally wins the
- 12:36Russian Throne from Peter when he Finally agrees to abdicate,
- 12:40these first couple seasons were wild.
- 12:45The kids with the head. I was like, oh my gosh, like
- 12:50this is insanity, Insanity. I love it.
- 12:55And it's just hilarious to me that this entire War like took
- 12:58place, like within the palace grounds, that's insane to me,
- 13:01that historically accurate, not really, cuz I, if I remember
- 13:07correctly, he had he was kind of warned that she might do
- 13:11something like this but the real Peter he was extremely arrogant
- 13:15and like hated her just didn't think she could actually do it.
- 13:20So he was at some other Palace because he was going to have a
- 13:22party and she like she basically like could the government and
- 13:27everything and then went after him nice.
- 13:31But right away, I mean, this show has so many costumes.
- 13:35It's like, yes, it's almost intimidating.
- 13:39Episode. We're about to do with them out
- 13:41in costumes. Everyone looks great.
- 13:43Like it's so funny that like all the Nobles around, Peter are
- 13:46still like living a Luxe life and it shows in their costumes
- 13:50while like Catherine's forces are looking a little bit more
- 13:53beaten down. Because they're very serious
- 13:55about this campaign. They are like, even like the
- 13:59children it's like they're still dressed.
- 14:01Like you can tell their clothes used to be really nice but
- 14:04they're like so dirty. Yeah, I'm like they're playing
- 14:07with the The head as a football instead of, you know, fighting
- 14:14raccoons with which the, the raccoon looks so Savage to poor
- 14:19guy, right? I was like those poor animals
- 14:23one part especially of this first episode that I thought was
- 14:26hilarious, was Peters doubles. Yeah.
- 14:32Like each one, like they're clearly dressing him up and just
- 14:35like his wardrobe. And it's like, The one that's
- 14:40also played by Nicholas Hoult like none of them actually look
- 14:44like him. They just like, with his clothes
- 14:46on. They kind of a little bit look
- 14:48like him. Yeah, they have that like, Peter
- 14:51style, but we're not actually Peter, except the one that is
- 14:54played by Nicholas Hoult, which, like, always catches me off
- 14:57guard. I'm like, is that actually him?
- 15:00He like they make him look like so gross.
- 15:04And with just like that, like that terrible British changes
- 15:08his voice a little Little. Yeah, he does not sound like
- 15:13himself but yeah, we still see Catherine and like this very
- 15:18pale blue. I like how she's still.
- 15:20It's very like a still very fancy but it's like a little
- 15:25like militant almost one. Cool thing.
- 15:29About Catherine the Great when she like when I was like okay
- 15:33time for the coup she changed into a Russian military uniform
- 15:37and was like let's That's dope and then Peter the whole time,
- 15:44he's just like laid back in his like comfy, Furs still like in
- 15:48party mode. He's listening to Shots by Lil
- 15:51Jon, right? He's just kind of wait for all
- 15:54this to blow over, he really is a special event.
- 15:57Even like when they run away he's got that like great like
- 16:01brocade with like fur-trimmed coat and his like gold Lemay
- 16:06pants and I'm like, dude, you do not understand what's Going on,
- 16:09do you? It's very serious.
- 16:13The first episode is so funny. It's so funny and I just love
- 16:17how the rest of the season. He's like if I hadn't gotten so
- 16:20hungry she would have lost like do that was not your problem.
- 16:25So relatable though. I'm like yeah sometimes my
- 16:27Hunger gets a better me. I love when Peter like is like
- 16:31trying to test the situation and he sends one of his doubles
- 16:34outside to see like what would happen and got.
- 16:36It's hot instantly and Catherine's just Shaking your
- 16:39head like don't like what do you think you're doing so funny but
- 16:47even funnier, we have the return of Aunt, Elizabeth so good.
- 16:52I loved her even more in season two.
- 16:55We talked about this in their Patron episode, our Elizabeth
- 16:59and Aunt Elizabeth are kind of the same person, but she becomes
- 17:04a little bit more wild and a little bit more.
- 17:07I don't know what it is. It is about her, but sees it
- 17:10too. She just becomes greater.
- 17:12I agree. I think it's because like,
- 17:15Catherine does keep her as such a close advisor.
- 17:18Like she feels a little Freer to just like kind of do what she
- 17:22wants. Because it's like, the whole
- 17:24reason she's supporting Catherine is because she knows
- 17:26Catherine is like Progressive and like and actually, like
- 17:31sensible ruler, and it's like, she's like, I love my nephew,
- 17:34but if he's gotta go, he's gotta go.
- 17:36Yeah. My nephew's kind.
- 17:39The piece of shit. So, yeah, Elizabeth looked
- 17:42stunning, all the time her fits are just so interesting.
- 17:45We talked about this on patreon but like, yes, sometimes they're
- 17:48very like, masculine feminine feminine and non-binary wearing
- 17:53some pants one day or wearing like, very Exquisite gown.
- 17:58Next Yankee patterns, she's just, she's your cool.
- 18:02Aunt, Elizabeth she definitely is and I felt like this season
- 18:06they like up to the D or inspiration.
- 18:09A little bit especially with her one standout costume from this
- 18:15is when she chases Peter on Horseback in her nightgown and
- 18:20just that gigantic yellow robe. I was like, you look so good
- 18:26girl, like you are just chasing after and getting him.
- 18:31Yes. He's pregnant through this whole
- 18:33ordeal. Yes to top it off though.
- 18:37When he finally agrees to He she wears this amazing silver blue,
- 18:43fur trimmed coat, then I was like oh you you are making
- 18:49yourself out the angel of the situation.
- 18:52Yeah that that dress lays a little too hard.
- 18:56Yeah it's so nice to I mean the fabric is just so beautiful,
- 19:00it's a museum piece right away. Most of Katherine's wardrobe
- 19:04pieces are like Museum where they yeah even though she's
- 19:08handed. The head of her lover, which
- 19:11honestly, I have to say, it didn't really bother me that
- 19:14much, honestly, for Leo, is it bother you that she was handed
- 19:18to Leo's head? It was her reaction was sad and
- 19:22heartbreaking, but I don't miss Leo.
- 19:25Has that weird? I mean true, I kind of sit the
- 19:28chaotic relationship between Catherine and Peter.
- 19:32I personally don't. But you doing the real
- 19:37Catherine. The Great.
- 19:39Don't sip them but I never read her in textbooks, ship them.
- 19:45Okay. I can see that I can see that.
- 19:49But then we're quickly brought to episode 2 where Catherine's
- 19:53are really starting her Reign episode 2 dickhead on the day of
- 19:59her coronation Katherine finds that ruling the nation.
- 20:04As she wishes will not be easy. And Peter begins to realize how
- 20:09Crushed his place in court is oh man.
- 20:12That's a rough transition. I mean I had a feeling it would
- 20:15but it's pretty rough. It is Roth and I love how she's
- 20:19just keeping this like this. Like, silver blue color palette.
- 20:25She's just like, yes, I am going to be the Empress of Russia.
- 20:30This is who I am. I love all her Cape to looks
- 20:34because she just kind of like Glides through the palace Glides
- 20:37through the forest. And she has her little Hood
- 20:40moments. You also have to remember that
- 20:41it's like probably freezing cold outside even though they don't
- 20:45really do that great of a job to tell you what the weather's like
- 20:49you could just tell because yeah, the costumes are always
- 20:51super heavy. I feel like they keep it in this
- 20:54like ambiguous like fall time like the entire time.
- 21:00Yeah, but one thing I really love about this episode is the
- 21:06opening scene. Where the maids are cleaning the
- 21:13floor and they're wearing like, very traditional costume.
- 21:17I was like this was beautiful and so well coordinated.
- 21:21Yeah, very beautiful. And like even like the Fabrics
- 21:24have like a very Russian inspiration to them.
- 21:28I could kind of see like the textiles, very interesting, very
- 21:32beautiful, the poor maids and servants.
- 21:35Really have a rough go in this season though.
- 21:39The serfs do not fare. Well, in this season.
- 21:42No, they do not who does farewell in this season.
- 21:47Muriel is back as a lady. Oh my gosh.
- 21:51Her like one of her first dress has is so beautiful.
- 21:55Like that red sash over it. Oh my gosh.
- 21:58That's so starting Hank. Yeah, she's back and she's ready
- 22:03for vengeance. She is ready for Ventura.
- 22:06And she's like, I'm here. She's like, I made a mistake.
- 22:08II didn't support my girl and she needed it but now I'm back
- 22:12and I'm going to support my girl Until the End.
- 22:15Yes, I supported my girl 85% of the time, which is better than
- 22:19some of you better than most of the ladies in the court.
- 22:24Um, but Katherine has to deal with a lot of the men of the
- 22:28Court. Who pretty much hate her.
- 22:32Yeah, they're all terrible to them but they also bring what I
- 22:36love about them even though I hate all of them.
- 22:39You could tell that they really the costume designer.
- 22:41Sharon, she really Drew like a lot of Inspirations from the
- 22:44different, like regions of Russia.
- 22:47You could tell within the costumes.
- 22:48You could tell that all these different nobles were all from
- 22:51like different parts which was really interesting.
- 22:54Yeah. Especially the one that gets
- 22:56murdered at the end. I was just like stunned by like
- 22:59how tall his hat was. Yeah, why?
- 23:03But okay, I like it. I don't know.
- 23:06A lot about traditional Russian. Like clothing, but I could I
- 23:10recognize these Silhouettes which is very interesting.
- 23:13Yeah, it is it's also very interesting because like with
- 23:17the exception of like a few characters like this this guy in
- 23:22the right on the top, it's all very like french-inspired with
- 23:26like a little bit of like traditional like mixed in there.
- 23:31Yeah, so it's kind of like hmm. Like we're like what are you
- 23:34doing more of right? It's the rush of thing really
- 23:38has to do with The hat and the facial hair and then like the
- 23:41length of their like tunic. That's yeah, like, that's where
- 23:45the Russian inspiration really, like shows through.
- 23:48I agree. Well, ladies, they are as put
- 23:54together as ever. But we also have, we get to see
- 23:58the little girls of the Court, a lot more in this season, which
- 24:04is really great. And they all like, look
- 24:07beautiful, but they also kind of like I don't like their parents
- 24:10to a little bit, but it's nice to see some children around here
- 24:14that aren't evil, right? And I love, we have the addition
- 24:19of the school teacher Katya velcro who I love her because
- 24:24she's just like cath like the mirror of Catherine in Russia.
- 24:30Like it was almost a large ring. Like how kind and normal the
- 24:36school teacher was like you have expect everyone in this
- 24:38courtroom. To be either insane or mean or
- 24:41both. So the school teacher like
- 24:43really caught me off guard. And I still don't trust her
- 24:46which I mean, but it makes sense though because to like in a
- 24:50country like that at the time to receive and just that I'm in
- 24:53general as a woman to receive that kind of education to the
- 24:58level where you can, then, educate others.
- 25:00Like you probably have to be very like Pleasant and like, you
- 25:04know, give people what they want to get to get that for yourself.
- 25:08Yeah, but her costume is very beautiful.
- 25:11I love like, the floral applique is to it.
- 25:14Hmm. Very graceful.
- 25:16It, she's very graceful. She's always dressed to the
- 25:18nines to which I love talk about dressing to the nines everybody
- 25:24at Catherines coronation. My favorite look was on
- 25:28Elizabeth's that. Yeah.
- 25:30Thrilled like collar things he has going on stunning, she's
- 25:34giving me like Queen Elizabeth Vibes a little bit.
- 25:37Yes, I agree. I agree.
- 25:40She's stunning. Archie's, like full priest mode.
- 25:46Yeah, he looks great, Peter. Even I'm a Peter fan.
- 25:50Peter looks good. Tune is like traditional
- 25:52ceremonial a Garb, which we never really saw where a lot in
- 25:57season 1. No he didn't.
- 26:00He does look good. But who looks incredible is
- 26:04Katherine. Yes, Sharon long talk to To
- 26:09popsugar about this, she said the coronation costume is
- 26:13scripted. It's a traditional Russian
- 26:17sarafan that we started developing two months before L
- 26:21ever put it on. We reckon that in total it took
- 26:25three people two weeks to complete it.
- 26:27It's quite complicated to make something that could look frumpy
- 26:32appear. Beautiful.
- 26:34This shape of it is a bit like a farthingale and the member Is of
- 26:39our workroom shaped the skirt first.
- 26:42So we could try that on L as soon as possible and established
- 26:46the shape over her pregnancy. The bump almost disappearing
- 26:50into this kind of cone shape but it wasn't a maternity dress,
- 26:54which was great because I think that helped L feel beautiful.
- 27:00It was stunning. It's like this has such an
- 27:04impact on. Like I like how they were like,
- 27:08Hired by the sarafan but it's definitely like its own thing.
- 27:14Yeah, it was just beautiful, seen her like Glide across that
- 27:17room as usual. And like this really beautiful
- 27:19golden color like this. She needed this moment to really
- 27:24like cement herself as empress and let ever know that she's
- 27:27like the real deal. Which I think she did with this
- 27:29costume. Oh man, it was so good.
- 27:33Absolutely. And like, I love cuz Muriel's
- 27:36like you're going to wear that. Are you crazy?
- 27:38Crazy. Like that's so old-fashioned.
- 27:43Sharon continue. Talking about the construction
- 27:45of it. She said, underneath the dress,
- 27:48there is this cage made of steel rings.
- 27:51So it's sort of buoyant, then at the bottom of that, they applied
- 27:55a very stiff, fibrous crinoline so that the skirt didn't
- 28:00collapse in. On top of that, we had
- 28:03petticoats full plus frilled hip pad.
- 28:08Adds to soften the overall look from underneath her rib cage.
- 28:15There were probably three days worth of applique work, which
- 28:20involved cutting off the Golden embroidery and repurposing it
- 28:25onto the bodice layered, with beadwork, and Lace.
- 28:30There's lots. And lots of hand sewing
- 28:32involved. People, I think people probably
- 28:36assume it's done by machine. But it can't be well, I'm
- 28:41exhausted just reading this, that's so much work, right?
- 28:46I I was like her popsugar interview is incredible but she
- 28:52was even talking about like that lace overlay which they were
- 28:55calling like an apron is it's like is encrusted with like
- 28:58pearls and stuff. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like
- 29:01she wears it for 5 minutes in the show.
- 29:05I know it's very very short but it's so Awful, such an impact.
- 29:10But what I love most of all was like, the headpieces.
- 29:13She was wearing. The headpiece was incredible and
- 29:18Sharon talked about it. She said, the headdress was one
- 29:21of the hardest parts due to covid.
- 29:24There was the Jeweler and then the technician, who was making
- 29:27it, they met in a garden somewhere and I was unable to
- 29:31meet them because I was being tested.
- 29:33Oh man, it ended up being quite a drawn out thing without Trying
- 29:39on all different paper shapes on her head.
- 29:43That's taking pictures, drawing on them and sending them to the
- 29:48jeweler who then come back with something.
- 29:50Well, I'm like that sounds terrifying.
- 29:54Like to be like a. Let's put some paper on your
- 29:56head. Hope it comes out correctly.
- 30:00Yeah. This is a major gamble right
- 30:03here. Like I would be terrified.
- 30:08But she talked about trying it on it.
- 30:11L2 popsugar. He said, when she put it on, she
- 30:15went. Oh my God.
- 30:17It did look fantastic. The idea was that she walks into
- 30:22the throne room and she just looks spectacular which is not
- 30:26what everybody expected. Sometimes, L sent me images and
- 30:30sometimes I sent her images so we could make sure she felt
- 30:34fabulous in it. It didn't just need to be a
- 30:37costume. She had to inhabit it properly.
- 30:41It's like she does. She does this costume.
- 30:46It's incredible. So, beautiful one of our, one of
- 30:50my favorite costumes, who talked about on this podcast.
- 30:52I just love if, if a costume needs several slides of notes
- 30:57for Elizabeth to go through, you know, this costumes are real
- 31:00deal, you know, it took time and effort and thoughts.
- 31:07It's just like, Oh my gosh. But that it's all hand sewn and
- 31:11applique. I'm like the fact that that
- 31:14headpiece looks so spectacular. It's like oh my gosh.
- 31:18Like someone give this woman and Emmy just for this dress.
- 31:22Please seriously. I wonder if she's eligible this.
- 31:26I mean season, right? Or was she eligible last every
- 31:29season? I think it's this one.
- 31:31I think it's this one too because I feel like it didn't
- 31:33end all that long ago, right? I don't know.
- 31:37We'll figure it out later. Right?
- 31:39If it is eligible it's for sure gain nominated that's just like
- 31:43without a doubt. Absolutely but this brings us on
- 31:47to season 3 alone. At last as Catherine's rain
- 31:52begins in Earnest. She finds herself and needing to
- 31:55put Peter in his place on his favorite day of the year.
- 31:59Meanwhile, Georgina finds a way to get the life, she can't have
- 32:04in Catherine's Court. This episode is Is when
- 32:10Catherine's pregnancy belly really starts to show through.
- 32:13Yeah. And it starts altering her
- 32:16costumes, she can't wear everything she wanted to wear
- 32:19but still she still makes it look so fabulous all the time
- 32:23she really does and they talked about this and the popsugar
- 32:27interview as well about the course at she said it has
- 32:31openings on the side that laced. So you can expand the corset as
- 32:35the tummy gets bigger and bigger.
- 32:37But since the Worth it is rigid and the bump is silicone.
- 32:42It was moving from side to side so we ended up putting the
- 32:46corset under the bump which helped retain the proper lines
- 32:50of the dress and kept her frame more closed which felt more on
- 32:57par with the period nice. So they were like, we tried it
- 33:01over, it didn't work, we just put it under the trials of a
- 33:05costume designer like how do we make this?
- 33:08Girl, look pregnant and with the period.
- 33:11Exactly. And trying to figure out what
- 33:15her maternity wear should look like.
- 33:17In this period was actually difficult.
- 33:20She said, there's not a massive amount of reference you lose the
- 33:2518th century shape, which is tiny waist with structure and
- 33:30you get a raising belly that you have to accommodate while still
- 33:35making her look Regal and light. With a sense of Purity and
- 33:39optimism. It's incredibly complicated.
- 33:43I can't even imagine. I'm just I feel exhausted
- 33:45already like Sharon. You, you killed it?
- 33:49Yeah, yeah. Like I can't imagine.
- 33:53I do love in this episode though.
- 33:54When she whatever it is she takes to say up and she's just
- 33:58like in her corset. I'm like, you mean cocaine?
- 34:02I'm pretty sure that's great. I could not remember what it
- 34:06was. She was wired and I I was
- 34:09stressed out. I was like, girl, you need to
- 34:10take a nap. This is not good at, right,
- 34:14right? She's just like, no, I need to
- 34:16fix everything and it's like you can do that later even when she
- 34:20was like, we should free all the serfs.
- 34:21I was like how you talk about this tomorrow.
- 34:24Like I'm with you but I don't like the way you go to belt is
- 34:28right now. Yeah.
- 34:30Right. She just has no chill neither.
- 34:34Does anybody else in this court though?
- 34:37So Is besties are really having a tough time.
- 34:41I mean my favorite part is when Gregor is outside doing like
- 34:46charades for Peter, it's ridiculous.
- 34:48There's nothing, I'm like, regular.
- 34:50What are you doing there? If there's snow on the ground,
- 34:53put on a coat. Finally for like the first time
- 34:56in 13 episodes, just like snow happening outside.
- 34:59I'm like it's finally time to where the winter clothes, right?
- 35:03I am like Tatiana and her husband.
- 35:06They're appropriately dressed when they're seeing.
- 35:08Seeing off Gregor and Georgina, the Tatiana looks ridiculous
- 35:13that I love her. I love Todd, she's a horrible
- 35:17character. She's just so stupid, but she
- 35:21always looks fantastic and over the top.
- 35:23And I love this scene with like the fur and like the freely go.
- 35:27And she's like, oh my my dear friend.
- 35:30I'll take over as mistress, right?
- 35:33And well, now that I think about it.
- 35:34Did she ever get her chance to be the mistress?
- 35:37I want to say? No, because I think she did
- 35:39because of Peters love for Katherine.
- 35:41It's so beautiful. George looks beautiful and
- 35:47purple. She wears a lot of purple in
- 35:48this show and she's just one of my favorite characters, but she
- 35:52really liked. I left her born season 1, season
- 35:562. She really started to take a
- 35:57dive. I'm glad that she was doing what
- 35:59was right for her, but then she came back and I was like, no,
- 36:03girl, this isn't for you. Hmm, one character I really
- 36:08Identified within this. Season was the doctor though, I
- 36:14was just like when he has that bowl of wine.
- 36:17I'm like, yes, sir, I'm sure, you know what you're doing.
- 36:21He's a very questionable doctor, there's one scene where I think
- 36:24he gives pills to Catherine's mother and she's like, what are
- 36:28these? And he straight says, I don't
- 36:30know, but they seem to work and she's like, okay.
- 36:34And I was like, yeah, it's definitely Crush.
- 36:38Of all, but also Catherine's like well this is the most
- 36:43reliable doctor I can find and I'm like oh yeah and he's
- 36:46dressed like a doctor though. Like even though his costume
- 36:50isn't it doesn't vary too differently from all the men of
- 36:53the Court. You could tell he is a little
- 36:54bit more sophisticated and probably the only doctor
- 36:58available at this moment. Yes.
- 37:01We also have this great lady of the court.
- 37:04I don't remember her name, but she wears this sick black alpha.
- 37:08Fit with like green and red floral embroidery and I'm like,
- 37:14oh, you look good. I know exactly who you're
- 37:17talking about. Couldn't tell you her name.
- 37:20I think she's only in this one episode and if you're in more
- 37:23episodes, I'm sorry. But she's probably not
- 37:26listening. Yeah.
- 37:30Also looking incredible and making moves and Elizabeth and
- 37:34Mary all standing by their girl looking fabulous.
- 37:38S and Elizabeth D being dragged away from Peter's Room, probably
- 37:44my favorite scene so funny. But then also there's a theme in
- 37:51this episode where Elizabeth Muriel and Catherine the woods
- 37:56and their costumes complement each other.
- 37:58So well, it's sickening like Mario's ring like this blue,
- 38:03very textured coat which I love it.
- 38:06Catherine is wearing one of her big drapey.
- 38:08P. It's like has no shape
- 38:11whatsoever which makes it so iconic and then to Elizabeth
- 38:15just looks like herself just which is just stunning, always
- 38:18impeccable. Yes, one of my favorite costume
- 38:21scenes from the whole show. Yes.
- 38:23They all look like Regal and beautiful and they're like, we
- 38:27are here to support you and like, be a united front, right?
- 38:31Install these stupid men, couldn't tell you what was
- 38:34actually happening in this scene because I was very distracted by
- 38:37how amazing it cost. Is where she was missing, Leo.
- 38:42Oh sorry. Yeah bring that's okay.
- 38:45It's okay. Well, wasn't okay.
- 38:47Was Peter in this episode had a full-on meltdown.
- 38:51Yeah. Have a full meltdown and is like
- 38:53typical like jerky Peter costume to when he's like very undone is
- 38:59shirts all just wide open but you always have to be wearing
- 39:02his necklaces though. That's very Peter.
- 39:05And then he always throws on like a crazy hat at the The same
- 39:08time. I know he has this giant hat.
- 39:11That like looks like a moose, a moose huff, and I'm like, what's
- 39:16going on here? And then the floral robe.
- 39:20Yeah, I am like that. You look insane.
- 39:23What is happening? Peter has a meltdown outfit.
- 39:26Like this is like rich person meltdown outfit like right.
- 39:30It's very different than mine. I just got a side view of your
- 39:33wig. It looks looks incredible.
- 39:36I'll give you more detail shot. Very okay.
- 39:39Okay, that was my one of my favorite looks of that episode
- 39:44but um, he's not done, having wild breakdown outfits, we are
- 39:50in episode 4, the devil's lunch, as Catherine continues to, try
- 39:54to win over the ottoman Ambassador, and avoid war, Peter
- 40:00continues to undermine her and prepare for Paul's Arrival.
- 40:05All right? The ottoman Ambassador.
- 40:07He Was a cool guy. I actually loved his costumes.
- 40:11Very, very cool. The colors were awesome.
- 40:16Allah is like very different compared to like the Everyday
- 40:20People. The Russian court is writing
- 40:21like lots of Reds and oranges and yellows.
- 40:25You could tell he comes from a different region.
- 40:27Absolutely much more like traditional like Silhouettes but
- 40:31I love how just the whole time like Catherine's trying to
- 40:34convince him like yes a female leader is a good idea and he's
- 40:37just like, but Your husband just like is it though is it a good
- 40:42idea? Catherine.
- 40:43Like that's the entire episode it really is.
- 40:46But like I love the hunting scene when he finally is like oh
- 40:50you are an intelligent capable leader and she's wearing that
- 40:55fabulous. Blue hunting outfit.
- 40:57Yeah. And that hat that is just
- 41:03curling around. I'm like, you look incredible.
- 41:05You're right Elizabeth. We gotta bring hats.
- 41:08Back you, you're you're very really have to bring hats back.
- 41:11Yeah, I'm bringing the 2000s back.
- 41:15Forget Y2K core, let's bring back at 9:00 period costume
- 41:21only. Um, speaking of period costume,
- 41:25I love this scene, something that was very unpopular, it was
- 41:29the baby shower, it's hilarious. I love it.
- 41:33I love the use of like the baby blues and I like very baby pink.
- 41:38To it's it's very cute and very fun.
- 41:42But at the same time, like Peter is still incorporating his
- 41:46animal prints. He loves like a clash of animal
- 41:49prints that makes him so happy and it makes me happy he really
- 41:53does. And Sharon talk to Cosmopolitan
- 41:56about this she said, because it's a baby shower and there
- 42:00weren't baby showers back then. We were at license to do
- 42:04whatever. We like we chose baby colors.
- 42:08Sure. Sherbert color is even though
- 42:11the traditionally Russian colors are red and green at the time, a
- 42:15lot of the silks were imported from Europe because the court
- 42:19was still trying to be French which is much lighter and
- 42:23frothier and frillier. It was just really, it was just
- 42:28a really fun thing to do to make a lovely looking piece of
- 42:31television, and they made a lovely looking piece of
- 42:34television from just like the painted cloud.
- 42:38Oh yeah, you everyone in these just like crazy, like, baby
- 42:45shower outfits. I was like what?
- 42:47Where did you all get this on such short notice.
- 42:50It's so hilarious that everyone essentially hates each other,
- 42:53but they will, for sure, participate in a costume party.
- 42:56Like, even if I plan on killing you next week, you know, I'll be
- 43:00up at the costume party. We're gonna party it up and
- 43:03sleep with whoever, and then I'll come murder, you after the
- 43:07party. He I would not be surprised.
- 43:10Like I said, I need to check on this.
- 43:12She might have already been nominated for an Emmy for this.
- 43:14I don't remember want to season came out, but if not this, for
- 43:17sure, might be one episode. So I would be like, submitted to
- 43:20the television Academy for costume.
- 43:22Design Cosgrove and the hair, the hair stylist deserves.
- 43:27Oh yeah, all the Emmys as well. But I do love Vellum antov and
- 43:34Aunt Elizabeth at this party. They're the only two like In
- 43:38dress code, Bella meant have never changes not if anything,
- 43:43he just washes his outfit for a nice occasion, which is very
- 43:47kind of him. Exactly.
- 43:48He like strips off parts of it but like never is fully out of
- 43:53uniform. Another great look for Katherine
- 43:56do in this episode is the white blouse and blue skirt moment
- 44:03when Archie is trying to make amends with her.
- 44:08It's a Hilarious. And I love Catherine's look
- 44:10because it's very like she goes back to like her teacher Vibe
- 44:14sometimes Catherine really like settles into like this very
- 44:17kind, Middle School teacher that you feel comfortable with and
- 44:21that's like what makes her like so presentable and approachable
- 44:24to the court which I really appreciate exactly.
- 44:29We also get like a close-up of Aunt Elizabeth in this scene and
- 44:34I love it because you get to see all the different patterns and
- 44:37textures. Really wears on how it's just
- 44:39like beautifully orchestrated and not Clash.
- 44:43I know it's expert. Work is let's talk about episode
- 44:505. Episode 5 is called animal
- 44:53instincts because this is one of my favorite episodes.
- 44:55It's hilarious. This is when it says as Peter
- 44:59and Catherine begin to grow closer.
- 45:01The court is thrown into chaos by an escaped crocodile.
- 45:05I'm obsessive this episode it's genius.
- 45:08It is so brilliant. And it starts off with like
- 45:12Peter and his crew hunting and then Catherine is like attending
- 45:17a like lecture by Voltaire. And being like, look at all the
- 45:22lovely scientists. I learned back to the court and
- 45:26like, look at all this like, great Improvement and nobody
- 45:29cares. No one cares.
- 45:33There's a demon winged animal on the loose.
- 45:36There is, there is On, I love how Tatiana now that George is
- 45:42gone. I feel like she's up to the
- 45:44crazy factor to like get his attention.
- 45:50So like this lime green hunting. Outfit is insane.
- 45:54Yeah. She looks like a full-on pirate
- 45:56right now and I love it. It is incredible.
- 46:01Also, incredible. Muriel keeps coming out with her
- 46:06disease D or inspire. Tired outfits.
- 46:10This riding outfit was adorable, very beautiful.
- 46:14I love the colors of Muriel at all times.
- 46:16I also love Shakey shake. It was so cute.
- 46:20He was adorable until ladies hrvatska killed her, which I was
- 46:25very upset about, right? Right?
- 46:29But before we get to that, we have the crocodile hilarious,
- 46:34it's so good. I, I was like, how did the I'll
- 46:38get about the palace, it's insanity and I loved every
- 46:42second of it. I just how did this happen?
- 46:46It was so crazy. And I love how like the first
- 46:50people to encounter it or of it's a, of course, the girls
- 46:53school, I had my love how the schoolmistress is just like shoo
- 46:58shoo. It's like it's a crocodile.
- 46:59You can't shoo away and a crocodile.
- 47:02I know it's like a dog or something is in the palace.
- 47:05Like this is just a crocodile rocking around.
- 47:08Its It's incredible to imagine and writers were when they wrote
- 47:10this to like and enter crocodile was walking around the house.
- 47:14Floor genius, genius, absolutely genius there is more genius.
- 47:21Looks to come though. After our break
- 47:41Hi. This is Dan.
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- 48:06Poor. Elizabeth.
- 48:26I just came back from the powder room and I had to fix my wig.
- 48:30You had a fix your wig. Yeah.
- 48:33These things are really itchy. Actually I'm like, let's get
- 48:35this over with so I can rip this bad boy off.
- 48:38Oh, I can only imagine as can the girl Walls of her new school
- 48:44can only imagine the new world Catherine is trying to bring
- 48:48them in episode 6, a simple jape.
- 48:52Catherine tries to show the girls of her school that she is
- 48:55creating change through a simple jape and some Extreme Action.
- 49:01So beautiful, I love Catherine and yellow.
- 49:04She just like Radiance positivity, she has that
- 49:08pregnancy glow. I mean, she always has a glow to
- 49:10her and she just when she appears to To the students.
- 49:13She just you could tell like, oh, that's our leader.
- 49:16She's very inspiring. And I think the costumes really
- 49:19serve that absolutely what ha. So the costumes are surveying,
- 49:25are the merchants that are being made and so Lords.
- 49:30And Ladies, I was like, these people are insane.
- 49:36Like, what are they? I think they're like all on
- 49:38drugs. I love it and I love like the
- 49:42merchant like Very dramatic makeup that actually was my
- 49:45inspiration for today's look whatever and it find the makeup
- 49:50but that would have been what I was looking for.
- 49:53I I can see it. I can see it just like their
- 49:59colors are like all over the place.
- 50:02They're over there patterns are like this.
- 50:05This like military-type jacket but it has this crazy striped
- 50:10pattern on it. I'm just Like who dressed you?
- 50:14There's Stripes. There's Reds, just Pink's.
- 50:18There's white, there's blush. There's blue if it's all over
- 50:22the place and I love it. It's chaotic Perfection.
- 50:26It is it is what is also chaotic Perfection is shaky all made up
- 50:33to be a noble woman. So, beautiful.
- 50:37I love it. She looks great.
- 50:40And I love that her costume really like, Makes her look so
- 50:43established but also like very like AIDS appropriate and
- 50:46fitting to her. They that it was a great job.
- 50:49It was a wonderful job. I also love lady Svenska in this
- 50:54scene in the green cuz it's like once she finds out who shaky
- 51:00like actually is, she's like so jealous.
- 51:03I'm like disgusted. And it's like, you're just like
- 51:06a little snake like no ladies, Svenska is the snake, the snake
- 51:10Svenska Elizabeth and I I talked about this in the patron
- 51:14episode. So you have to listen for a Holo
- 51:16conversation, but ladies, fence, gives one of my favorite
- 51:20character. She has beautiful.
- 51:23I love all her costumes. However, I will not stand behind
- 51:26her, in her actions. No, it's white forward.
- 51:30No. She, as she gets what she
- 51:32deserves, she does. I that's one of the only times
- 51:36you ever see me walk away from a favorite character like that.
- 51:39Yeah. Yeah.
- 51:42But what is it? Rate though, is when Catherine
- 51:47freeze, the serfs and we just have Tatiana, like running
- 51:51around her home in her undergarments because she does
- 51:54not know how to dress herself. It's so good.
- 51:58I mean, you and I talk about this all the time, we love
- 52:00seeing like the process of how people get dressed as like a
- 52:03part of this podcast. So she's just like, running
- 52:06around with her cage. Feel like, that's some good
- 52:09stuff right there. Right, right.
- 52:12I, uh, Also, love Muriel's dress in this episode, because Mario's
- 52:17very, like, very bright, very colorful, like, Dior inspired
- 52:21gowns. And she has another one.
- 52:24When she finds poor shaky dead in her apartment and it's like,
- 52:29she's like this bright ray of sunshine, but then they changed
- 52:33the lighting and same dress, same everything she looks.
- 52:37So scary, it becomes very Gothic, Crimson Peak, like it,
- 52:42like, it's Just immediately, you're so right, the lighting is
- 52:45everything. She just walks up.
- 52:46She's like, can I borrow this the guards?
- 52:48Like sure. Just grabs her Garden is like, I
- 52:50have some stuff to do. Yeah.
- 52:52She's like I have revenge and after that episode 7 stapler.
- 53:01Well, Catherine tries to put together a science.
- 53:05Fair interference. From Peter, puts the fair in
- 53:09Jeopardy and an unexpected visit from her mother puts Catherine's
- 53:13and nerves on end. Oh, I love this episode of so
- 53:17good. It's so good.
- 53:19She starts so simple. She's so sad after everything
- 53:23went horribly wrong with freeing the serfs but Mario's are just
- 53:27be like, don't worry about it. We have all your science people
- 53:31here. Yeah.
- 53:33All you nerds are here. I'm obsessive to idea that and I
- 53:37kind of Googled it a little bit, but looks like, Catherine.
- 53:39The Great did actually have something to do with the roller
- 53:42coaster. Way, which is actually pretty
- 53:44dull. I have not heard of that but
- 53:46that's cool. I'm not willing to go all the
- 53:49way. Say like she invented the roller
- 53:50coaster but like I saw some Google articles about like how
- 53:54they don't know dabbled in roller coasters.
- 53:58She was a great patron of the Sciences so I wouldn't be
- 54:01surprised but I love her going around to see all the different
- 54:05entries and the school teachers it like not velcro but velcro
- 54:11basically dress. Is there answers like, hmm?
- 54:16I don't know. That seems a little too easy
- 54:19access. They're like, they're like this
- 54:21is brilliant. Unforeseen.
- 54:23Drapes. Like, yeah, they're like, this
- 54:26is not the time or place for this at.
- 54:30Then I also love the guy who invented half of the roller
- 54:34coaster. That's right.
- 54:37He's just like brown, fur, just like boring outfit and like, of
- 54:42course, I didn't think this all through.
- 54:44Yeah. All the scientists are dressed
- 54:46like scientist. Absolutely absolutely but then
- 54:51my gosh oh my gosh. Answers favorite character was
- 54:53steps on the screen how did you know you're talking about it
- 54:59yesterday? Yeah Gillian Anderson plays
- 55:02Catherine's mother Perfection and her costume when she emerges
- 55:07out of that Carriage. So good, this super large.
- 55:12Penny has just it's everything, it is everything, it is
- 55:18everything. And she's like clearly she
- 55:21raised Katherine with a lot of like joy and love but she's like
- 55:26I am here on a mission because I don't like what you're doing
- 55:29here but I still don't understand her deal but I loved
- 55:33her the entire time. Well because Katherine
- 55:36overthrowing, Peter put one of her other is putting one of her
- 55:41other daughters marriage. Potential marriage in Jeopardy?
- 55:45Yeah, but I was like, it was conquering Russia, not enough,
- 55:49mom. Like it's not like she
- 55:51conquered, you know, like Pasadena like it's Russia.
- 55:57Well, no, she's mad because Katherine was just supposed to,
- 56:00like, stay put and have babies. Yeah, and now she's impeding one
- 56:05of her other sisters from doing that parents these days right
- 56:09everybody? Right.
- 56:10I'm sure all the listeners are nodding their heads.
- 56:12M-my. My parents would actually be
- 56:15very proud if I conquered a country.
- 56:17I'm just saying why? My parents would be like good
- 56:20for you. Good for you.
- 56:23Catherine's mother is not happy about it though and she
- 56:26continues to show her displeasure when she refers to
- 56:29Peter as the emperor wearing this.
- 56:32Fantastic. Blue green, red gown.
- 56:38Whoo, I loved this look so Good. You could tell she definitely
- 56:44comes from Germany. A little bit of a different
- 56:47influence in our costumes. I saw another costume that I
- 56:51loved is Peter's like open chested moments like his
- 56:57crocheted lace top. That was where, every time he
- 57:01wore it, I was like, do I want a crocheted knit top?
- 57:07That's black with like a giant pearl necklace?
- 57:11I think I do. I really love this.
- 57:15This look of her mother's though, because it's like a
- 57:17little bit of asymmetry with the sleeves were like one has like
- 57:21the beautiful lace overlay and one doesn't.
- 57:24Yeah. And it just kind of like sets it
- 57:26off and makes it like a little bit different and I'm like, ooh,
- 57:29Catherine's mother change in it up.
- 57:33But what I love most in this episode is Catherine's final.
- 57:37Look with this adorable little jaunty hat and just like the
- 57:41cutest little mature. Nidhi health is.
- 57:44It's very cute. It's almost like she's trying to
- 57:46like, age herself down a little bit because, like, mommy's
- 57:49around, you know, yes, it's try to like, put on her best
- 57:52behavior. If the cute little proper hat.
- 57:56Meanwhile, her mom looks like a full-on like evil witch, which,
- 57:59I love, right. I also love Mario.
- 58:03She's just like this look sciency.
- 58:06Right? Lad, burgundy, I feel like
- 58:09that's she went into her wardrobe and was like, what
- 58:11looks Art, but we have episode 85 days, both Kathryn and Peter
- 58:22prepare for the imminent birth of their son.
- 58:26While Catherine's Catherine's, mother creates Discord for her
- 58:31before her untimely departure. This is another great episode.
- 58:37I love it so much and I love that we got Jason Isaacs in this
- 58:40episode. Yeah.
- 58:43Lucius. Malfoy is in the house, just in
- 58:47a hole. Just Chillin.
- 58:51I was like, I've never seen Peter looks so dirty as he does
- 58:56in these scenes, and then I'm like, this is our wild, right,
- 59:00right. But then it's so sad when
- 59:03development off is like, yeah, I felt the same way and then I had
- 59:07to use them and it's like, ooh yikes.
- 59:11Okay, Val meant off. No, wonder Do you want to be at
- 59:13War all the time? But yeah.
- 59:17Peters, dad makes a debut in one of his like I don't know.
- 59:23Like a fever dream or something of him.
- 59:25Yeah, he's been digging a hole forever and Jason Isaacs, Lucy
- 59:31smoothly shows up in a fever dream and he's clearly like
- 59:35decked out in his Royal attire. It's very sophisticated very
- 59:39established. I loved it.
- 59:41Very the Of Peter. This is why Peter has issues
- 59:46because this is what Peter was supposed to be.
- 59:49And this is also a Peter is not what?
- 59:51Peter could never be. Yeah.
- 59:54But I love how like taken aback. Her mother is why just this
- 59:58entire court in general? I love when everybody showing up
- 1:00:03in her room and she's like, what is happening?
- 1:00:05I know when on Elizabeth is just sitting on her bed, like this is
- 1:00:09a typical Aunt, Elizabeth move. She does this like every morning
- 1:00:12too, Probably different people. Oh yeah, definitely, definitely
- 1:00:16the cathodes. Bob is like, what are you doing
- 1:00:18here? I don't know.
- 1:00:19Yeah, I don't take visitors in my bed.
- 1:00:22She's like, I'm in my PJs. Let me get changed, and then
- 1:00:25Archie walks in because, like her Archie and Mary, all they're
- 1:00:31all like her mother is not good for her, like her mother needs
- 1:00:35to leave. Oh my gosh, Elizabeth has this
- 1:00:37purple gown with this big white like tie thing going on.
- 1:00:42Fall studying. I mean I feel like she wears
- 1:00:45that whenever she needs to be responsible, and elegant, Aunt,
- 1:00:48Elizabeth heard that we have a little game called one costume.
- 1:00:52Rule them all. And she's really throwing her
- 1:00:53entries in, in the season. She is, she definitely is.
- 1:00:58As is Catherine's. Mom.
- 1:01:02This little cigar seduction outfit of hers with the black
- 1:01:07overlay over this amazing. Like, yeah, praying, I was like,
- 1:01:12Oh, cat. Does it for me?
- 1:01:15It does it for me. I'm I love it.
- 1:01:18I love that her silhouette is so extreme that every time she
- 1:01:22walks up to a door. It's like, it's very subtle
- 1:01:26humor. But you see her, like, have to
- 1:01:28turn aside Ike. I like push everyone and kind
- 1:01:30of, like, inch away in the door. That's such subtle.
- 1:01:34Excellent comedy. I love it so much.
- 1:01:37Absolutely. And she just has like for the
- 1:01:40shore of all time. She's on this show.
- 1:01:42She Says all the costumes this green number ridiculous, it's
- 1:01:48extreme and I love it. The fact that they used her to
- 1:01:52promo this entire season when she only had two episodes was
- 1:01:56extremely rude. But I see what the marketing
- 1:01:59team did there because they brought me in.
- 1:02:02They brought you in and then they brought you in even more
- 1:02:04with her death. I was like did not see that
- 1:02:07coming. I could not believe I was like
- 1:02:10actually shook for a second just sitting on my Bed.
- 1:02:13Like what just happened? I do not like that.
- 1:02:16I was like, this is this is a lot.
- 1:02:18This might be too much but Catherine is unaware of her
- 1:02:23mother's demise and episode 9 Walnut season after the birth of
- 1:02:28P of Paul Peter and Catherine struggled to be the parents.
- 1:02:32They want to be while Mario tries to find a husband and the
- 1:02:37king and queen of Sweden seek refuge in Catherine's Court.
- 1:02:43I didn't understand what they were doing here house like
- 1:02:45they're seeking Refuge sounds like something bad happened in
- 1:02:48Sweden. Yeah they were overthrown but
- 1:02:51they played no actual part in the story.
- 1:02:53They were just there giving commentary.
- 1:02:55Yeah, I feel like next season they're gonna they're gonna be a
- 1:02:59bigger part. I think it was just like oh get
- 1:03:01them. They're probably that's a good
- 1:03:02point but I love Catherine's back to a very like traditional
- 1:03:08French silhouette. This actually looks very like
- 1:03:12Volution period to me. Yeah like it to anybody who read
- 1:03:19American Girl dolls, it was given me really strong Felicity
- 1:03:23Vibes. This is Yo, green and pink
- 1:03:26dress, she wears, nice solid reference, that flew over my
- 1:03:31head. And that's what I'm here for
- 1:03:33Spencer. But everyone is bringing out
- 1:03:40their wardrobe in this episode Have Georgina's back.
- 1:03:44Also giving me Felicity Vibes in this adorable white red and blue
- 1:03:52number. Everything's get real friends
- 1:03:54around here. Everything's a real French
- 1:03:57Voltaire is being real French. The ladies of the Court are
- 1:04:01being real French. Because George is like, we gotta
- 1:04:04read books now but she's just being sneaky.
- 1:04:08I don't understand her deal. Yeah, I yeah.
- 1:04:12I was very Confused by her motives after she came back.
- 1:04:14I was like, okay. You want Peter, you didn't like
- 1:04:17your life in France, like I don't understand.
- 1:04:20Yeah, I'm confused here. But anyways, anyways even more
- 1:04:26confusing is when this little kid is like I'm gonna take your
- 1:04:29fortune was like excuse me. Mario Mary's this eight-year-old
- 1:04:37kid, this kit though. It has a pretty stellar
- 1:04:41wardrobe. I mean he Looks fresh to death
- 1:04:44over here, right. Like so, whoever's dressing him
- 1:04:48knows how to dress him. Yeah, but one of the funniest
- 1:04:51parts of this episode was one Muriel is interviewing
- 1:04:56candidates to be her husband and I love the one guy.
- 1:04:59She was like, it says, you've had Six Wives before, what
- 1:05:03happened to them. He's like, I love clumsy women.
- 1:05:06He says they fell and she was like, they all fell.
- 1:05:11I was like, Mmm, that's a good joke.
- 1:05:19But I also love how the doctor just puts himself out as a
- 1:05:21candidate, he's like yep. Um you know who also was shook
- 1:05:27though in this episode by some unsuspected happenings.
- 1:05:33Poor Aunt Elizabeth. Yeah.
- 1:05:35They did not have to do a Elizabeth like this no but also
- 1:05:40Peter really needs to work on his communication skills.
- 1:05:43That's what we really need to get to if he knew this Entire
- 1:05:47time. How long has he had to like talk
- 1:05:50to her gently about this? Right, right.
- 1:05:54He knows she's a little crazy like come on and I'm like, I'm
- 1:05:59guessing that like his mother probably murdered him because he
- 1:06:04was probably the son of Peter's. Father, probably.
- 1:06:08That's what I'm going to guess, but I love Aunt.
- 1:06:11Elizabeth at home. Look, yeah.
- 1:06:15She's she looks like Has that almost like we talked about the
- 1:06:19Middle School kind of like teacher Vibe a little bit.
- 1:06:21Very sophisticated. Like, she's reading books are
- 1:06:25enough, she actually knows how to read, but she has like her
- 1:06:27book reading costume. Yes, absolutely.
- 1:06:32But this then brings us to episode 10 wedding.
- 1:06:37This episode's. Trust me the hell out.
- 1:06:40Yes. Katherine finds out about the
- 1:06:42death of her mother needs to try and make peace with the Ottoman
- 1:06:48Empire. All while trying not to be crude
- 1:06:51by her estranged, husband, Peter, so stressful.
- 1:06:57And like one of the most wild things about this episode is
- 1:07:00what Catherine's wearing for a majority of the time is like
- 1:07:03this white gown with like red roses on it.
- 1:07:06Beautiful, it's beautiful bike. I'm trying to still understand
- 1:07:10what those costumes trying to say.
- 1:07:12I think it was just kind of like at this point, she's in a very
- 1:07:15good place in her life. Eve.
- 1:07:17And it's just like, oh, like falling in love with Peter.
- 1:07:21Everything's going great. And then it's just like a turn
- 1:07:26for the worse. A turn for the worse.
- 1:07:28When Muriel just blurts out. The fact that Peter murdered her
- 1:07:33mother, right? And in she's buried in the
- 1:07:35backyard, which I'll say Mario, looks fine into this last
- 1:07:40episode. Oh my gosh, this wedding gown.
- 1:07:44I was like, yes, please. I'm all about it.
- 1:07:51She's like marrying, her like nine year old cousin.
- 1:07:54So she doesn't lose her money, but she's like, no, we're having
- 1:07:57a whole last wedding. Like this is gonna be a good
- 1:08:00wedding. I'm gonna look good, she's
- 1:08:03making real baller move. She's like, I'm getting paid.
- 1:08:06I have my new man and I'm getting married.
- 1:08:09So like, because and we might all get shot and killed during
- 1:08:12this wedding, so at least we're going to make it nice.
- 1:08:14Exactly, exactly gotta say. And Gregor is relationship
- 1:08:18adorable. I'm into it.
- 1:08:21I like it. Mario needs a have some
- 1:08:24conversations with Gregor, though.
- 1:08:25Like hey, I know you're planning a coup, maybe don't.
- 1:08:28Yeah. Because we're a thing now and
- 1:08:30I'd appreciate if you don't do that however, they don't really
- 1:08:33seem to have that conversation but I love it.
- 1:08:35I. Yeah, it's wonderful.
- 1:08:38She looks incredible. Who also looks incredible is
- 1:08:42Katherine in Peters nightmare. What she's eating the Heart Like
- 1:08:47full-on Khaleesi. Yes.
- 1:08:51And I was like, oh my gosh, I love this because a, she's
- 1:08:55wearing this wonderful wild wig that has, like, pearls and
- 1:08:58rhinestones just like encrusted with in it.
- 1:09:01But then she's also wearing her wedding gown, right?
- 1:09:05Which I'm like Peter, some psychological issues right there
- 1:09:10but then also her like makeup and hair is done up where she's
- 1:09:14giving me like real karela Vibes.
- 1:09:15Like she has a cycle said, kind of Recycle badass chick Vibe
- 1:09:21looked heard that Peter has a real issues.
- 1:09:25He needs to work out. Yes, yeah, I love that.
- 1:09:30It's definitely. It's like a badass.
- 1:09:31Motorcycle, chick encrusted with diamonds.
- 1:09:35Yeah. But she has like bigger issues.
- 1:09:41She's meeting with the ottoman Emperor and is wearing this.
- 1:09:47This very militant looking red and white jacket opposed to the
- 1:09:54very dirty looking ottoman emperor in his like, Furs, and,
- 1:10:00like brocade Fabrics. Yeah, you could tell, he doesn't
- 1:10:04really change a lot. He just has his like, one Royal
- 1:10:07look that he's probably wearing all day long everyday and
- 1:10:10Catherine's showing up ready to fight.
- 1:10:13She's wearing white, which makes her very graceful a She has the
- 1:10:18contrast of red in it, where, you know, that she's really bent
- 1:10:22on dealing some real Vengeance today, she is, and the ottoman
- 1:10:27Emperor is the one who gets the brunt of it.
- 1:10:31Yes, though. I will say, I did yelp when he
- 1:10:33stabbed her hand. I was not emotionally prepared
- 1:10:35for that, right? Right.
- 1:10:38I was like, oh, oh, oh, this is serious.
- 1:10:41Yeah, and like stabbing in the hand.
- 1:10:43You know, how you don't like, people crawling on the walls.
- 1:10:47Yeah, I don't like people getting stabbed in the hands.
- 1:10:50I'm like, I can't, I can't do that.
- 1:10:52I have a phobia of that. Oh my gosh, Kevin this is off
- 1:10:59topic, but one of my best friend's Fanny.
- 1:11:03Hmm, who listens to this podcast.
- 1:11:05Sometimes she has a fear of having exposed ankles when she
- 1:11:10gets into cars, because she's afraid of people like flashing
- 1:11:13at her ankles from underneath her car.
- 1:11:15But I think is, Hilarious. But I love this phobia so much.
- 1:11:20Like, hands and feet and ankles must be protected at all times.
- 1:11:25Oh, I don't know. Oh my gosh, that gave me a
- 1:11:28flashback to, when I took, I took ice skating lessons for a
- 1:11:32little bit. As a kid, one of the reasons I
- 1:11:36didn't progressed very far is because I was afraid of like,
- 1:11:39falling on the ice and someone going over my hand, my hand
- 1:11:46phobia. Yeah.
- 1:11:48And just like, cutting off my hand with their ice skate.
- 1:11:52No. Like, that was a real fear of
- 1:11:55mine. I get you.
- 1:11:57It's a real phobia. Huzzah carry on with the
- 1:12:00podcast? We end on Muriel's.
- 1:12:04Wedding reception where everyone's dressed to the nines.
- 1:12:08I love this like this, like off-white and like Rosy, gold
- 1:12:14and Pink's. Like She's got going and I feel
- 1:12:18like people followed it, which I appreciate about this court, you
- 1:12:22give them a theme and they will run with it, right?
- 1:12:25They it doesn't matter what the occasion is.
- 1:12:28They all know that their game ready to kill all their friends.
- 1:12:30However, we will still dress up for the theme because the theme
- 1:12:34is law around here. And I, yes, I respect that about
- 1:12:37these people. They're like we will follow your
- 1:12:40dress code and then murder you. I'm down with it.
- 1:12:47And the show ends with some heavy Cliffhangers.
- 1:12:50I get why there's a lot of these people were arrested, but why
- 1:12:54was her bestie arrested? I don't know.
- 1:12:59Honestly, I have to watch this episode again because I too was
- 1:13:02very confused about a lot that happened.
- 1:13:05I feel like maybe because she kept her mother's death secret.
- 1:13:11She kept it a secret for a little bit, but she did
- 1:13:14eventually tell her which is different compared to Erin else,
- 1:13:17who's arrested? However, George wasn't arrested.
- 1:13:21So, I'm like, what were your decisions Behind these orders?
- 1:13:25Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:13:28I'll so Katherine investigate, right?
- 1:13:31I need season 3 immediately also watching Catherine, stabbed
- 1:13:36Peters, double to death. Well, I should say to death,
- 1:13:39because he gets up and walks away, which is so sad.
- 1:13:43But can you imagine that like, oops moment where you turn
- 1:13:46around, He's right there and I like him and he knows she was
- 1:13:50100% for pair to stab him to death.
- 1:13:54No, she thought she killed you. Yeah.
- 1:13:57You weren't enough with it? That's crazy.
- 1:14:03It's so crazy but that brings us to the end of season 2 and it's
- 1:14:08time for our favorite game, the one costume to rule them all.
- 1:14:20Oh my gosh, I love this. So so so much.
- 1:14:25I'm so ready to play. There's so many costumes to
- 1:14:28choose from right Spencer. What's your one costume to rule
- 1:14:32them all? Okay, my pic was Catherine's
- 1:14:37mom's first initial gown when she gets out that carry.
- 1:14:40Yeah, it was just like comic. You instantly knew that this
- 1:14:44woman is no joke. She is here for some serious
- 1:14:48business. What?
- 1:14:49She's not letting anyone In. Hi.
- 1:14:51I'm Mike. Gillian Anderson.
- 1:14:54Just kills the swirl. She kills every role.
- 1:14:56I'm obsessed with her. She's so great.
- 1:14:59And just I loved offer. Costumes are so Exquisite and
- 1:15:04that pain yeshe is in the hips. It's extraordinary.
- 1:15:08But I have to say Aunt, Elizabeth was really gunning for
- 1:15:11my Top Choice multiple times. If I really had more time to
- 1:15:15think on this Elizabeth had a really good chance, especially
- 1:15:18with that one gown. She Where's I think at the
- 1:15:21coordination with the blue frill?
- 1:15:23Oh yeah man. That was 1.5.
- 1:15:29Like honestly all the characters were really trying to have the
- 1:15:33one costume to rule them. All Catherine's coronation gown
- 1:15:37was trying like well what's yours her, my one costume to
- 1:15:41rule them all was Muriel's, first rest back as a lady with a
- 1:15:47pink Sash and the pink shoes and the The deep blue gown.
- 1:15:52I was like, this is how you start to get your revenge,
- 1:15:56right? She had all her clothes and the
- 1:15:58U-Haul and she was ready to go. The second she got the green
- 1:16:02light. She was like, I'm gonna be the
- 1:16:03best-looking lady in this court. I am the Queen's right-hand
- 1:16:07woman. Let's get revenge, I love it.
- 1:16:12It's so good. Such a great.
- 1:16:13Look, she looked great and I'm hoping that Catherine has like a
- 1:16:18come to whatever moment. Let's Mario out of jail Justice
- 1:16:22for Mariel. She did what she had to do?
- 1:16:25Yeah, yeah. Pretty much.
- 1:16:28Those are, if I can't wait for season 3.
- 1:16:30I'm so glad that we decided to watch this neither.
- 1:16:34Can I, I'm so excited. But Spencer, what are we
- 1:16:38watching next week? Okay, next week.
- 1:16:41I'm really excited about this film.
- 1:16:42I don't know if you've ever seen it, but to me it's just that
- 1:16:45costume design classic. And it is, we're coming up on
- 1:16:49June, which Is pride month, of course.
- 1:16:52So, I want to do a little something fun.
- 1:16:54We are watching Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, which just fills
- 1:16:58all my drag queen fantasies. It's such a good film, and I
- 1:17:01know you're going to love it. I'm sure the audience already
- 1:17:04loves this film, so we're going to have a good time.
- 1:17:07I cannot wait to watch this. I looked it up and saw a couple
- 1:17:10images and I'm like, okay, how have I not seen this?
- 1:17:14And I need to see this. It's insane, and you're going to
- 1:17:17love it. Well, everybody watch.
- 1:17:20Priscilla Queen of the Desert and join us next week.
- 1:17:24But in the meantime, if you heard what you liked, please
- 1:17:27give us a little five-star text review on Apple podcast or
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- 1:17:34I love. They said.
- 1:17:36If you heard what you like, it doesn't make sense.
- 1:17:38But it does make sense that I love it.
- 1:17:40If you heard what you like, did I really say that?
- 1:17:44Yeah. But it was cool.
- 1:17:45I like it. I heard what you liked and I
- 1:17:47like it. Okay.
- 1:17:50I guess we're rolling with that. Thanks for listening.
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- 1:18:58But I also love how the doctor just puts himself out as a
- 1:19:01candidate. He's like yep.
- 1:19:03Whoa, shit. House cat.
- 1:19:06Just walked by my window that was like, the biggest cat I've
- 1:19:10ever seen. Was it big?
- 1:19:13It was a big FCAT. You sure it wasn't a lion of
- 1:19:16some sort. I'm sure had a very housecat
- 1:19:19qualities but it was huge. Anyways, I've never been
- 1:19:23interrupted by a cat on this podcast.
- 1:19:26It's usually Elizabeth. I just saw a big ask.