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SAI IT WITH YOUR CHEST! | RHONY Recap with Dustin Ross · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset,
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  Speaker 1: in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space
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  Speaker 1: or scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: So raindrops, Dustin says he has lots of thoughts as
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  Speaker 2: we get into the latest episode of.
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  Speaker 3: New York City.
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  Speaker 2: So, Dustin, you know, the thing with this Roni recap
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  Speaker 2: that I love and the rest of us do as well,
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  Speaker 2: we love it when you kick things off and go
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  Speaker 2: on the tangent. So, when it comes to this episode,
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  Speaker 2: we can start wherever you want to. I'll try to
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  Speaker 2: picture us in different directions, but what's pissing Dustin off today?
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  Speaker 3: So, let's start with, I was trying to understand.
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  Speaker 4: I knew it was a Cuban party, and I know
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  Speaker 4: that Cuba has some beaches and you know and things
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  Speaker 4: like that i wondered if there was water on the
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  Speaker 4: floor because why were daisy's jeans so high up here
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  Speaker 4: at the party now you talk about everybody on this
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  Speaker 4: show what they cook what they don't cook what they
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  Speaker 4: wear how they house look how it don't look and
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  Speaker 4: you came in here looking like that she came in
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  Speaker 4: there looking like that and i know daisy is a
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  Speaker 4: makeup artist but her husband do hair why daisy hair ain't.
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  Speaker 3: Never done why.
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  Speaker 4: And always talking about somebody. She really made me sick
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  Speaker 4: of her this episode. And I still recognize the value
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  Speaker 4: in her on this cast. I still recognize that we
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  Speaker 4: need somebody to agitate things and shake things up. And
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  Speaker 4: she is incredible at that. She's good at her job,
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  Speaker 4: but she gets on my nerves. And what did it
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  Speaker 4: for me was at Aaron's husband, Abe's birthday party, when
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  Speaker 4: Cy called Carol and Daisy fixed her goddamn mouth to say.
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  Speaker 3: Um, excuse me, Sy, excuse me, Carol.
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  Speaker 4: Who the mother, who in the fuck is Daisy talking to, Carlos?
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  Speaker 4: Is it me or was that not? And then what
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  Speaker 4: really sealed the deal for me was once she started
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  Speaker 4: mimicking the way that she saw Sy call Carol and
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  Speaker 4: she changed her diction and her tone and inflection.
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  Speaker 3: In her voice, deepened her voice. Carol! Carol! Carol! Carol!
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  Speaker 4: She started doing like that. Are you trying to say
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  Speaker 4: that she lacks manners and that's how she acts? I
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  Speaker 4: don't like the summation of that. I don't like where
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  Speaker 4: that takes me mentally. I don't like that combined with
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  Speaker 4: the give the sushi to the doorman. I don't like
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  Speaker 4: that coupled with the conversation she had at Carol's house
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  Speaker 4: about Psy saying she don't come from a family family.
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  Speaker 4: that has empathy into what kind of family, what kind
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  Speaker 4: of family you come from. Cause your mom's, her mom's
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  Speaker 4: house looked just like her house, which there was nothing
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  Speaker 4: wrong with her house, but you judging everybody else's house.
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  Speaker 4: So like, what's really going on here. I also think
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  Speaker 4: that having money and having wealth is something that, um,
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  Speaker 4: means something more to Daisy than it does to most people.
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  Speaker 4: I think Daisy is operating from a lack, a mindset
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  Speaker 4: of lack, right.
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  Speaker 3: And lacking.
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  Speaker 4: And I think, I think that she is waiting for
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  Speaker 4: this Bravo situation is like her big break.
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  Speaker 3: And I respect that because it would be mine too.
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  Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is I also wouldn't be on
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  Speaker 4: there judging other people's furniture and shit calling it Pier
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  Speaker 4: 1-ness and all those things that can rub people really
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  Speaker 4: the wrong way. I know I'm not crazy and I
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  Speaker 4: know I'm not the only person that's seeing this. That's
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  Speaker 4: why I was so glad Cy went on to check
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  Speaker 4: that and see Cy understands those microaggressions.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why she told her, Daisy, shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm serious now. Now I'm sick of your ass.
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  Speaker 4: Psy had been sick of her when she talked about
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  Speaker 4: the sushi and all that, but she kept her composure. That,
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  Speaker 4: excuse me, Carol, like, let me teach you how to
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  Speaker 4: have manners and how.
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  Speaker 3: To act in this space.
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  Speaker 4: The condescending nature of those words triggered Psy and pissed
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  Speaker 4: her off. And that means that Psy thought just the
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  Speaker 4: same motherfucking thing that I did when that happened, as
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  Speaker 4: I did when I was watching it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like Daisy this week. I did not. Did not,
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  Speaker 3: did not, did not. And why does she always look windswept?
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  Speaker 4: She always looked like she coming in from high beach
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  Speaker 4: winds and not in a good way. That ain't beach waves.
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  Speaker 4: It's wore out. I'm tired and downtrodden. She always looked
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  Speaker 4: like she had a rough time before she got to
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  Speaker 4: set emotionally.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: Daisy always looked like her call time was like 7,
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  Speaker 4: 10 p.m. And it looked like she had to do
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  Speaker 4: Martha and maybe like for morning news. So maybe you
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  Speaker 4: had a call time for Martha was six that day.
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  Speaker 4: And which means she had to leave her apartment all
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  Speaker 4: the way downtown at like four 30 to set up
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  Speaker 4: all her shit. You know, maybe it, maybe it's just
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  Speaker 4: long days, but Daisy always looks like she walked through
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  Speaker 4: a car wash before she went to the scene.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't understand why. Is it just me?
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  Speaker 5: Oh God. Where do, okay. Well, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Love her on the show, though.
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  Speaker 5: So where do we begin? Where do we begin?
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  Speaker 3: Where do we begin?
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Let's start with... Let's just start with Daisy.
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  Speaker 5: Yes. I agree with everything you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start with the scene with her and Carol.
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  Speaker 4: Love the Prada jacket she had on, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: Daisy being in her state. That little Prada jacket was dope.
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  Speaker 4: It was cropped. That's what made it dope.
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  Speaker 5: I love it, too.
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  Speaker 2: And on top of that, I like Carol's apartment, by
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  Speaker 2: the way. It's so chic and cute and very her.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I'm here for it.
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  Speaker 3: It's eclectic. It matches her personality. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: It is a.
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  Speaker 4: Mixture of styles and textures and prints that works.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? It works. So, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: like her apartment, too.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm definitely here for it. And I love the
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  Speaker 2: fact that she does not want more than three people.
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  Speaker 3: Hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: No ice, no food, no nothing. Carol is actually hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: I love Carol.
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  Speaker 2: What I didn't love was the things that Daisy had
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  Speaker 2: to say about Psy.
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  Speaker 5: It was downright nasty.
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  Speaker 2: And this episode, especially that scene, showed me Daisy does
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  Speaker 2: not like Psy.
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  Speaker 3: And never has.
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  Speaker 5: And never has.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you why I'm shocked I
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  Speaker 2: didn't get this earlier in the season, but I got
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  Speaker 2: it in this scene. Especially towards the end when, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, Psy says, shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 3: On a bad foot. On that.
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  Speaker 4: That's why she leaned that way.
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  Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up. Had to get on the good foot.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: But here's what hit me in this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Because they keep mentioning to us they were friends for
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  Speaker 2: 20 years, they are drilling that down our throats because
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  Speaker 2: they want us to believe they were consistently friends for
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  Speaker 2: 20 years.
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  Speaker 3: And not had just known one another for 20 years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You guys were not friends in terms of hanging out
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  Speaker 2: for 20 years straight. You guys met 20 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: when y'all used to run to each other, how's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Y'all may have been to parties together, different holiday shit.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that you are even mad that, well, she
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  Speaker 2: doesn't find her apartment. All of this shows me that
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  Speaker 2: you guys aren't as close as you guys are trying
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  Speaker 2: to make it seem to the audience that you are.
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  Speaker 2: And based on how Daisy talks about Psy, Daisy talks
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  Speaker 2: about Psy as if Psy is beneath her.
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  Speaker 3: 100% agree.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? And here's the deal.
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  Speaker 2: Daisy is on the show because Psy recommended her.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the point of blame. The way it works, Dustin
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  Speaker 5: and casting, this is the reboot.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to Destiny.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Destiny.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing is, they had to get this one right.
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  Speaker 2: They had to get this right. So long story short,
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Let's be clear. This is Psy's third season.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't recommend her season one. You didn't recommend Daisy
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  Speaker 2: season two. But you recommended Daisy season three because I
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  Speaker 2: think Psy said, this bitch.
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  Speaker 4: I know she would be good though.
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  Speaker 5: I know she'll be good TV.
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  Speaker 3: I don't fuck with.
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  Speaker 5: This bitch, but whatever. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Against my own judgment, let me recommend her And the
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  Speaker 2: things that Daisy said, I'm going to read this to you.
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  Speaker 5: Now, she did start off.
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  Speaker 2: With a compliment saying that there is a soft side
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  Speaker 2: to side, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: And then it goes down here from there.
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  Speaker 5: She proceeds to.
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  Speaker 2: Say, she invited me to her apartment and gave me sushi.
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  Speaker 6: I don't eat supermarket sushi.
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  Speaker 3: Mind you, she walked in and said, oh, you're so fancy.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, when she first got there and seen said sushi.
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  Speaker 4: she uttered out her mouth oh you're so fancy wow
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  Speaker 4: sigh you're so fancy talking about the sushi that she
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  Speaker 4: went on to talk about when she talked.
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  Speaker 2: About the sushi fakeness number one she goes on to
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  Speaker 2: say Psy is far from an open book. She is
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  Speaker 2: like an iPhone where you forgot your password, but when
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  Speaker 2: she opens up, she is great. Carol then says that
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't like onions and compares Psy to an onion
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  Speaker 2: and says she's complicated in ways that's not interesting to her.
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  Speaker 2: The screaming, the weaponizing, she is boring and predictable. When
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  Speaker 2: you peel the layer back of an onion, you're not
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  Speaker 2: getting a watermelon.
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  Speaker 5: You're just getting an onion.
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  Speaker 3: Now, look. I. OK. I don't blame Carol.
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  Speaker 4: I don't agree with Carol, but I don't blame Carol
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  Speaker 4: because I'm trying to think like, OK, what if I
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  Speaker 4: was that person?
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  Speaker 3: Right. And if I was Carolyn, you ask me anything
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  Speaker 3: that even happens.
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  Speaker 4: Intimated or hinted at me being connected to that bullshit,
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  Speaker 4: and you know what bullshit I'm talking about, I'd be
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  Speaker 4: on your ass too for the rest of the time
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  Speaker 4: I knew you. And so I'm not surprised by Carol's
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  Speaker 4: take on Psy. I don't agree with it, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: not surprised by it at all. That's exactly how she
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  Speaker 4: should feel after Psy asked you, so you never went
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  Speaker 4: to the island? That was the nail in the coffin
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  Speaker 4: for me. You know? So I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely get Carol. The Psy thing, all of what
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  Speaker 2: she said was horrible. Then to say Psy can be
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  Speaker 2: the most compassionate person, but she can also be the
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  Speaker 2: coldest person.
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  Speaker 5: This is not a friend.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: This is a woman who you have tolerated the way
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  Speaker 2: Destiny told Arianne she tolerated all the people before Martell.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: This is what it is. You don't like Psy.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the reason why you don't like Psy,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to say it, I think, and she
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  Speaker 2: hasn't said this, this is how I feel.
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  Speaker 5: I think Daisy sees Psy as being ghetto.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. I agree.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that's what she thinks as well, as evidenced
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  Speaker 4: by her trying to fucking tone police her and police
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  Speaker 4: her behavior in that way. As if Psy was making
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  Speaker 4: an outburst or distracting people when she called Carol's name.
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  Speaker 4: She may have raised the volume level of her voice
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  Speaker 4: a little bit because y'all are in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: a motherfucking house party. with glasses clanging and music playing
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  Speaker 4: and cigars rolling and Cubans cubing.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Everything was going on in
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  Speaker 3: the party. So she had to say, hey, Carol, Carol.
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  Speaker 4: And plus, Daisy was running her mouth anyway, taking up space.
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  Speaker 4: So Cy had to cut through that in order to
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  Speaker 4: have some dialogue with Carol, who didn't want to talk
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  Speaker 4: to Cy anyway, because now Carol don't like Cy.
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  Speaker 3: Now that's Cy's fault.
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  Speaker 4: However, Cy had to work a little harder to have
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  Speaker 4: some sort of engagement with Carol.
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  Speaker 3: And Daisy knew that.
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  Speaker 4: Daisy also knew what she was doing by, by addressing
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  Speaker 4: Psy's behavior when it came to manners in that space
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  Speaker 4: amongst the other ladies in the cast. She knew exactly
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  Speaker 4: what she was doing, doing that in front of Carol.
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  Speaker 4: She knew exactly what she was doing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she, it was all intentional based on she
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  Speaker 2: wants to little girl her.
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  Speaker 5: Like, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: She, it's interesting to me because, listen, if you are
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  Speaker 2: Lisa Vanderpump, where you You yourself have all of this
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  Speaker 2: wealth and access and private planes and all those things.
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  Speaker 6: I may be a little bit more understanding. I'm going
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  Speaker 6: to give you a good example.
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  Speaker 2: There is people out there who's not too fond of
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  Speaker 2: EJ Johnson.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Fine.
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  Speaker 6: Get it.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But there's also people who's like, look, based on how
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  Speaker 2: he grew.
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  Speaker 5: Up, don't know that world or the access in which
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  Speaker 5: he lives. So guess what? I'm going to let him live, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because they understand that you live in a world that
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  Speaker 2: isn't normal or relatable to me. The thing with Daisy
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  Speaker 2: that's so shocking, nothing about her screams wealthy or screams bougie.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, none of that.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-mm, legacy, none of that.
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  Speaker 4: And also, I would also like to add further to
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  Speaker 4: your point, the people who do have the wealth and
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  Speaker 4: the things, the accoutrements that will communicate to a person
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  Speaker 4: that they would judge your behavioral standards or want you
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  Speaker 4: to be quote-unquote boozy, those are the people who appreciate
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  Speaker 4: motherfuckers that are 100% themselves the most. They want you
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  Speaker 4: to have a personality and they want you to be 100% yourself.
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  Speaker 4: They don't want you to posture And act the way
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  Speaker 4: that you think they want or expect you to act. No,
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  Speaker 4: they want you to be respectful, which they want anybody
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  Speaker 4: in the world to be. But be yourself. They don't
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  Speaker 4: try to tone police you or do any of that shit.
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  Speaker 4: They enjoy the color added to the situation. So the
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  Speaker 4: way you can tell that people really don't have shit
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  Speaker 4: is when they do things like what Daisy did to
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  Speaker 4: Psy in that case. Oh, no, we're in this space,
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  Speaker 4: so you got to act like this. That's how you
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  Speaker 4: know a motherfucker ain't used to nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: That's how you know. Because really the people, Martha's around
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  Speaker 4: her ass.
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  Speaker 3: Hello? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: So that's how you know so they don't give a
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  Speaker 4: damn about you being how you are. They take you
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  Speaker 4: as you are. So, you know.
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  Speaker 5: That's actually a really good point. The thing is this.
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  Speaker 2: That's actually a really, really smart point because for Daisy
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  Speaker 2: to be so elitist, Martha, who has it all, doesn't
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  Speaker 2: even treat you like you're just a makeup artist.
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  Speaker 3: Nope.
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  Speaker 5: She treats you like.
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  Speaker 2: A human who she's fond of and who she considers
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  Speaker 2: a friend. And yes, she may come to your apartment
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  Speaker 2: and say, why you got this bread, this type of cake,
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  Speaker 2: and all those things. But She really does see you
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  Speaker 2: as a friend and she don't mind you traveling with her.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, beat my face.
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  Speaker 2: But she also enjoys you so much so she's on
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  Speaker 2: this show. She's been filming a couple of times. So
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  Speaker 2: the fact that your humility can't even allow you to
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  Speaker 2: see people for who they are is very strange to me.
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  Speaker 3: Their belted leather jacket fooled me.
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  Speaker 4: When the cast photo came out and I saw Daisy
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  Speaker 4: with that hair over her shoulder and that belted leather
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  Speaker 4: jacket on, I was like, I'm going to like her.
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  Speaker 4: It was the damn jacket. I've been hoodwinked and bamboozled.
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  Speaker 4: Jacket doozled. You know what I'm saying? That's what happened.
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  Speaker 4: That's what happened.
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  Speaker 1: It was all.
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  Speaker 3: It was smoking mirrors, man. Smoking makeup mirrors, as a
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  Speaker 3: matter of fact. That's what it was. Over it. You
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  Speaker 3: know who else had me laughing in this episode, Carlos?
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  Speaker 5: Erica. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Erica is funny.
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  Speaker 2: When.
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  Speaker 4: When they were at the party and Cy and Erica
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  Speaker 4: and who else was over there talking to them? I
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  Speaker 4: can't remember, but Cy mentioned Daisy. And then Erica was like,
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  Speaker 4: some kind of way it got quiet. And Erica was like,
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  Speaker 4: so I was like, what do you know?
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  Speaker 3: You know something? And Erica was like, she's like, what
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  Speaker 3: do you know?
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  Speaker 4: Well, she said, you know, all that. something about your
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  Speaker 4: Instagram or the, the, the Devin piece. That's what it was.
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  Speaker 4: Which we'll get to Devin in a minute and how
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  Speaker 4: New York is going to have eight housewives next season.
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  Speaker 3: Cause Devin is getting upgraded.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: But anyway, um, cause clearly in the one episode, the
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: seasoned vet has entered the space, but anyway, um, That
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: was funny, though. Erica was like, someone on Instagram, you know, like,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know. So I was like, I've never seen
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: her Instagram in the way Erica was like.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: It was just funny.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: She's naturally and unintentionally funny, and I'm enjoying Erica.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I'm enjoying what she has to this cast.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Again, someone who is married to a billionaire, and she
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: never even wears it on her sleeve, literally.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: She rips her dress. She's so, like, Whatever.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I appreciate what I have, but it doesn't make me
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: who I am as a person.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Thank you. That's my point. They don't act like that.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: They like for you to be yourself. So I'm looking
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: forward to Daisy versus Erica coming up soon, too. That
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: was in that midseason trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: That's when she left the table and the whole run
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: for his gumping happened. So let's get into Devin Simone.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: So Devin Simone. We have a clap for Devin Simone. So, Raindrops,
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: I told you guys this before.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I'm familiar with Devin Simone because of Wendy Williams. She
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: used to be a, gosh, a returning guest, constantly returning guest,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: excuse me, on Wendy Williams' show.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: She is married. She's a matchmaker. She's gorgeous.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: I've always liked her.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: You know what's so funny?
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I thought I met her later in life, but she
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: reminds me of Jasmine Henley Brown.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Totally. Completely, totally, totally. In fact, they would probably be friends.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: They would be. Shout out to Jasmine Henley Brown.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Jasmine H. Haynes.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Haynes. That's right, because there's been a change. Jasmine H.B. Haynes. Mrs. Haynes.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: Our girl is Mary Raidrop.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: There you go. Let's get to Daisy. I'm not Daisy.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Lord Jesus, we're over Daisy. Let's get into Devin. Devin.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Devin is coming in through Aaron.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Yep. Top of the food chain.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, to come in through the
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: queen bee of the show is everything. Not only that, Dustin,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Aaron met Devin Simone through her husband, Abe, who worked
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: with her matchmaking company, all those things.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Devin is married to a white man.
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: I'm intrigued with New York City interracial couple.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: What is that like? How did y'all match? What's the
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: story there?
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: What's the story there? This whole story about Devin versus Psy.
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: So the moment Devin walks in and sees Psy as
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: high to everybody, and then they're like, do.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: You know each other?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: There was no hug.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: There was about 10% out of 100% of eye contact.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: It was a fleeting glance at best. Hi, hello. At best,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: that's what it was. And I was like, oh.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: And what I loved most about it is that once
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: the history was shared, which apparently they had met previously
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: at a Fashion Week party, and then Jaisal had offered
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: a year ago for them to hang out, and Sy
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: declined and said that she wasn't fucking with Devin's Instagram.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Of course, Jaisal told Devin that Sy said that. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: so that was between them. But what I loved the
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: most was that Devin was like, look, Here's what happened.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: And I know that some people are, you know, clamoring
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: for approval or whatever.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not that girl. So I'm totally fine with us
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: being like you over here. I'm over there or whatever.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not either. And you're pretty. And
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I want to get to know you. She conceded. She
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: conceded in real time. And what was that?
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Okay. Okay. You tell me if I'm reaching. Cause you know, listen,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: if I'm gonna call out Daisy, I'm gonna call.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: On Aaron and Jesso and Carol. Si, I'm gonna call
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: you out. Something in me, and listen, I could be
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the only one thinking this and that's okay. I really
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: hope I'm wrong when I say this. I don't want
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Psy to be that girl who's intimidated by another pretty
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: woman of color. Agreed.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: It gave me, her.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: Reasoning for not liking her was so weird.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And then to go on her Instagram and your confessional saying,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, it is boring.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: It's not inspiring.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I think that's what it's about, friend.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I think it is some competition and not even related
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: to the Real Housewives of New York. We got to
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: go back a little bit for this to make sense.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: At least this made sense for me, right? Okay. Cy,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: we know, came into the Real Housewives of New York
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: City as a digital influencer, an online influencer. Her thing
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: was always, you know, I'm a fashion influencer with my
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: campaigns and my fashion. And Devin, we know, was originally
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: on the real world, did the challenge, had a career pivot,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: started being a professional matchmaker and amplified her business so
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: largely that she was featured, as Carlos, you just said,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: a recurring figure. contributor to the Wendy Williams motherfucking show,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: which was the number one daytime talk show as a matchmaker.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: That is the peak.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: That's as high as you can get when it comes
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: to media visibility being introduced to the.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Media, right?
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Oftentimes people who are fashion influencers or digital influencers have
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: aspirations to transition into work in media, in traditional media.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: So Devin having an Instagram that was aesthetically pleasing, right?
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Coupled with her transition from reality TV into legitimate business
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: that now infiltrates the media space, right? That's a little
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: bit of the same spotlight that goes on the fashion
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: influencers and the people who are tastemakers and have something
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: to say.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: It all overlaps.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: And I think that there was some competitive energy there
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: from Psy when she found out that this girl who
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: had success in media success as an online influencer success
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: as a matchmaker was coming to the show. And that's
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: why she said, Oh, her Instagram is boring. She doesn't
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: have to come to lunch. Cause like, no, I I'm
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: the one who works in the influencer digital space. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: think it was relative to that. Devin pushed through and
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: busted into mainstream media as mainstream as it gets.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: And now she has level set with Cy. She passed
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Cy in, in media and influencing. Now she's level set
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: with Psy, sort of, by being on the same shelf.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Psy feels like she has a little bit of dominance
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: as a housewife, a full-time housewife, and Devin's a friend.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: That's what it looked like to me.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: That makes sense.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Makes a lot of sense.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And in Salted Injury, you come in through a woman
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I ain't fucking with.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Because here's what's interesting. She didn't come from Jessel.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: No.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: And all the scene we know is from Jessel. So why.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: So the fact that they, which is the producers, said.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: Come through Aaron at Abe's birthday party, now fucking sighs like, great.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: You're on the other side. You're on the other side. Yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: So that would explain the cold reception, all of that shit.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: But no, I love Devin. So the moment that.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Devin and Cy had that moment where Cy immediately apologized and.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Then said, okay, you're pretty, so I'm sorry.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Cy, the reason why it's hard for me to connect
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to Cy, I just think Cy to me just gives
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: a phony ass girl. And that's why for me, when
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: it comes to Daisy, if you want to have issues
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: with her being whatever, make it about something that at
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: least I'm seeing. I think Psy's phony, but to make
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: it about all the things that doesn't make sense and
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: makes you elitist isn't working.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Agree with you 100%.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: But baby, Psy doesn't want any smoke with Devin Simone
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: at all because Devin is going to give it right back.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And on top of that, I agree with you. Eight
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: housewives for sure. Devin impressed me in one episode.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Already brought her husband in. All of that. You know
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying?
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: You already know she got a husband that's willing to
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: film like the pieces are there, you know what I mean?
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: So the elements. So I, yeah, I think they struck
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: gold with Devin. I think she, she, she plays very well. Well,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: even though this is our first time seeing her on camera,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: obviously we might be speaking a little prematurely, but based
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: on what we did see and what we know that
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: she is skilled in and her, her previous experience as
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: a television personality, her, and this, she almost has that
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Stacey Rush advantage, right? Because like Stacey Rush through her
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: time on QVC, learned about presentation and about, you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: the way she's showing up on camera in a way
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: that really, really greatly aided her participating on this show.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Devin has that headstart too through her work as a matchmaker,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: which made her have to talk to all different types
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: of people, really find connection amongst people.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: So she not who knows how to do that. Then
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: she was on TV.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Before and she was on TV as a personality, as
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: a business woman. So the composure, the poise that she
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: presents with, she's next level. And she's a professional at this.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: So I really think that she's going to be a
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: great addition to this show.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I see it. I see it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: The conversation with Carol, Carlos, her and Carol, when Carol
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: was kind of being a little stank to her side,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: she's like, so wait, what was the... You know, she's like, similarly,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I had the same.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Right in. No time wasted. Jump right in. New to
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: jump right into it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Babe, what Carol said. What'd you say?
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I like this girl.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: A friend of my enemies and friend of my own.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Loved it. Loved it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Loved it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Like you said, Carol has all the reasons to have
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: an issue with Psy.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Based on what happened on the island.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: But the fact that Devin and I won in this
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: one episode befriended Carol and We know she and Jessa
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: are cool so much so that Jessa was like, I
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: did tell her what you said about them. That let
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: us know they're cool. She came in through Aaron.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Looked good in a swimsuit.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: The pool scene when they went her and Erica and
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Jessa were in the pool. She looked beautiful at the end.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Listen, I'm happy. And bring on Devin. Has a cast photo.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Official friend. You know what I'm saying?
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Bravo has already highlighted her multiple times today. And there's
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: social media. So like Devin is having a little, it
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: looks like she's having an impact and we welcome it.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: And we on her side. Yes. Thank you very much.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Devin, you better not disappoint Devin.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: You better not. Because we got your back, man. So,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Listen, Davey, you are down here. Davey, I have nothing
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: else for you.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: No, with them mom jeans on. Mom jeans, mom jeans.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: She had on mom jeans and Lee's. What kind of
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Gloria Vanderbilt? See, she's in Sassoon. See, she had on
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: some Sassoons.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Show some Sassoons. Like, Daisy, come on. What shit did
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: you be talking about people and that shit? You know
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Talking about everybody's house and shit. But anyway, yes. Her
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: husband seemed cool.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Daisy's husband.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Well, the thing is this. I thought he seemed cool, too.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I think he played the background well.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: He knew when to back away from the conversation and
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: just engage enough.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I like them. The thing is this, I like the husbands.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I like that A, the confessionals.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. Me too.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: With his black t-shirt because he's so cool.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: And that's a big deal, right, Los? You know, but
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: you're up for EP. You know, the husbands getting a
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: confessional is a big deal. Not everybody's husband gets that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: No.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Not even... What's his name? It's not Pivot.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm the gay one. No, the one that they
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: stare with. No. Oh, God. The one that they... Aaron
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: accused of being gay. You know what I'm talking about.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean when I said.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: That.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Sorry, because I don't think that matters. Povitt is his name.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Povitt is his name. The one that had the gay
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: rumor attached to him. Povitt.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, Carlos.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: My bad.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Listen, this is the perfect segue into this conversation because.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I will say this.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: Actually, I want to hear from you first.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: What did you think about that scene between him and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Jessa when Jessa told him about Aaron spreading rumors that
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: he was gay and his reaction to it?
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I think he was trying to be overly cool about it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: I think in his mind, he was like, I want
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: my reaction to this to message that that I'm not homophobic.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I'm also not gay.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to make a big deal out of this,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: but I'm also going to take a couple of digs
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: in my response. He's kind of fidgety, all that other stuff,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: you know, and probably been on thin ice with me
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: since he made that Beyonce, Elon Musk comment a couple
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: seasons ago. Last season, I think it was in the
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: trailer in the first episode, whatever. So, You know, whatever.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I also am sick of people.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Using being gay as something inflammatory and something to accuse
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: someone of to devalue them in some way.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So I'm over the whole shit, to be honest with you.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: say that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: But other people on the cast look like they might
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: do something gay first before Pauly would. Or at least
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: be down to do something gay together with him. I'll
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: put it like that.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: The women or the men or both?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: The men.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: And one of two. Two of the women look like
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: they DL for sure. Two. But anyway, yeah, so you know.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: Clay, it's New York City.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Fuck it. Yeah, be you. Be who you are. What
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: they say, Carlos, be who you are for your pride.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Are you gay?
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Why would you ask me a question like that?
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: That's what Povitt was supposed to say. Listen, somebody need
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: to show Povitt the fucking Tyler Perry movie. That was
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: for colored girls. When Janet Jackson's character asked her, wasn't
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: that for colored girls, Carlos? When Janet Jackson's character asked her,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Are you gay? Why would you ask me a question
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: like that? Oh, so you doing the bending. And nobody
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: bending me over.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Pauly need to see that scene because that's what he
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: should have said. Why would she make a rumor on
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: me like that?
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: That's how Pauly was supposed to respond. Then Jess will
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: pull that short flip bob behind her head.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Are you gay?
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Why would you ask me a question like that? That's
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: what he should have said.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: That is such a Jessa move. The bob behind the ear. Okay.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I will say this. I'll start by saying this. I personally,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's gay.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: Which is a strange.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I'll say this even as I'm saying I don't think
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: he's gay. But I'm also aware that Just because I
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: am only watching him on TV.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know. The totality of him.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because being gay doesn't mean you're feminine or whatever.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: But I just don't think it. But with that being said,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I do have to acknowledge, though, Dustin, where there's smoke,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: there's fire.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: And if something has been rumored for years.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Persistently.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Where it has reached all these other women in big-ass
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: New York City, I at least have to wonder, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen, we may need to get some answers from
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the husband and wife for the reunion.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: Did something happen.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, again, I don't think he's gay, but did something
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: happen at Equinox That appeared gay.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: And let's be mature about this conversation, right? Because something
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: very well allegedly could have happened, right?
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: And him and Jessel, it might not have been a
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: deal breaker for them. You know what I'm saying?
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: It's all kind of people who stay together for whatever
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: reasons they are. Him not working while she works full
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: time ain't helping with the character profile.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: And I'm just glad she ain't on Married to Medicine
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: because you see how Toya Bush Harris did Lisa Nicole
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: at this spot.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: Baby, y'all better be glad that they married to medicine.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: Know that.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Remember that guy that approached Quad?
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Yes. I know I love you, but I read Quad.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: I said Quad, the acting was Tyler Perry.
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: Good.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: When the guy came up to her on the separate
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: beat and she goes....
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: What? Who you?
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: I want to forget about that episode. And I know
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Kauai do too. And she knows that damn well. She
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: know better than that shit, that stunt they pulled.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Okay. And I love Kauai. We love Kauai. Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: There's water under the bridge now. Try to forget about it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: But Kauai, you didn't do that shit.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: It was a scheme that Kauai set up. I love you, Kauai.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Now here's the deal. Here's the deal.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: So wait, let's dig in. Let's dig in.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Maybe something may have happened. Maybe there was an incident.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe who knows? It could have been, maybe this is
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: a reality after dark conversation, but there's a lot of
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: different things that could have been going on that could
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: have been alarming and something that could have broken down
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: a lot of marriages that other marriages could have made
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: it through.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: You just never really know. And a lot of.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: People deem certain things experiment, experiment, experimental.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: And not definitive. You know what I'm saying?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: So like being gay by definition means something. And that
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: might not be, you know, applicable to the way he's
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: living his life currently. You just never know how this
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: thing could really go. But as he was pretty clear
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: in the scene and I have no choice, but to
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: take his word for it. When he said like, I'm straight,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not gay. There's nothing wrong with being gay, but
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I'm not that. So I'm just taking it at face value,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: no matter what, mannerisms or anything else may suggest. I'll
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: just take it at face value.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: I will end by saying this.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: It doesn't help that they've been honest about not having
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: sex in two years.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: That don't help at all because it's right there. I'm
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: going to say it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Dustin, if I'm in a marriage....
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: And it's right there. And we ain't fucking in two years?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Somebody's fucking somebody else.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: And second of all, second of all, if you ain't working,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: you mean to tell me you ain't working right now
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: and you ain't over there tearing Jess' ass up just
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: to say thank you for paying the rent and the groceries?
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: As you New Yorkers like to say, food shopping.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Now, what do we say
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: for Michigan? We're going to the grocery store. We're going
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: grocery shopping. Go get groceries. I got to go. That's
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: what people in the, I got to go food shopping.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: So anyway, because Carlos, you know, we'll go all the
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: way off track, but the least you could do is
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: be in there ringing Jessel's bells.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? To show some appreciation and, He's.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Rigging walls, allegedly, Dustin.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: For your sustenance and covering. You know what I'm saying?
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: You need to show appreciation for that by sustaining and
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: covering her. So if you're not even doing that, plus
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: they saying you would you be you know in locker
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: room at equinox i don't know but i don't but
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: according to what he said that ain't him and we
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: have no choice but to take that for.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: What it's worth um listen i it's it's it's very
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: interesting um And listen, it's New York City, marriages are everywhere.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: And listen, it's hard to find a good apartment.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: And a woman that'll pay for it while you cook.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I said, what?
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: He wanted to be a food, a cook, a food influencer.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Who gonna buy the food? That's the shit you do
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: after you got all your investments in place. Everything's running
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: its damn self. You're making money in your sleep. Then
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: you waste money on being a food influencer to the pops.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: You need to buy food to influence the stomachs of
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: your children. That's what you need to be. That's the
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: food influencing you need to be doing. I was shocked.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I was for real. Them tummies, them little tummies, them
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: kids tummies. Them boys, don't they got twin boys? That's bad.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: And Jessa didn't want no more kids because the twins.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Were so bad. Ain't that what the story was, Carlos? Yeah,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: them little boys need to eat. They're growing boys. So
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: that's the food you need to be influenced. And I
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: was shocked that he even felt confident enough to bring
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: that to television as a heterosexual male in a traditional way.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: According to our society, heterosexual relationship, it is odd for
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: the man not to be the breadwinner and to be
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: as forthcoming with the fact that he's not the breadwinner.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: To be bold enough to go on one of the
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: most popular shows on television, on one of the most
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: popular networks on television, and admit that you're not fucking working.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Or fucking.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Or fucking. As our Jamaican brothers and sisters say, wagwan.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: A wagwan, okay?
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Or in terms of Phaedra Parks Esquire. Do them both.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Do them both. Oh, Carlos. I almost said something.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: The Real Housewives of Atlanta will premiere next year.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, it will.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: We'll be recapping it because I can't wait to see C.T., Anyways, child. So, Justin,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: this was a great episode. We are so happy that
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Devin Simone made her debut.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Me too. Me too.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that every episode after this, we get
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: a chance to see her because we are halfway through
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the season and so.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Far so good.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: 100%.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: One last note, we didn't talk about Aaron and Abe's townhome.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Oh!
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: What do you think, Carlos? Be honest. When I saw,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say it, I don't care.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: When I saw that wood paneling that stopped at the
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: top of the stairs and then the regular painted wall
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: sconces began, I was like, okay, so they haven't even
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: tried to like just update this in any way.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: And what my friend brought up a good point, what
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Aaron and Abe tried to do was rush in a
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: whole bunch of modern furniture to kind of camouflage. They
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: use a lot of jewel tones and modern furniture. to
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: camouflage the obvious, you know, upgrades that the place needs.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Bare bones wise, it's a beautiful brownstone on the Upper
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: West Side. So they can, if they decide to buy
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: that or whatever, get a situation with the landlord where
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: they get some upgrades worked into the deal, that can
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: be a, it's a dream home in New York City.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Carlos, you know that. It's the dream home.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, yeah.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: But it needs some love, some TLC.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: I said, where is the Murphy's oil soap for these
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: walls and all this wood?
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Where is the Murphy's? I ain't seen nothing. Them kids
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: running around and falling all over. It was just a lot.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: When Daisy slammed them doors and Jessel tore them doors up,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: talking about, I don't think she needs to be slamming
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: the doors like that.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: It's going to fall apart. And what the hell is
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: that green puff in the corner?
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: I was like, Jessel, they going to call Jessel's husband gay?
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: And she is mad as fuck about it. She showed
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: up looking good, okay, on purpose, and then went in
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: there and tore the entire house up.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: More than it already was tore up.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I was surprised of the condition.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: That it was in because, you know, when we saw
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: the home.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: In the Hamptons. Beautiful. Gorgeous. Beautiful.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: I expected something else. And I was... So.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: I started thinking because, like, Erin, you know, Erin be
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: in her shit. Like, she wears nice clothes.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Like, her jewelry and stuff and them confessionals on them
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: bracelets probably was Alexis Batar or something.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: With all those bangles lined up. Like, she has good style. Even, like,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: the little.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: When they were on Mosquito Island, she had the little
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: black Jill Sanders set on on the beach.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Just, like, she be in
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: her shit. And I wonder if That doesn't always follow me.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Follow me.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: You got certain people who love to dress well. And
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: then they also like their homes to be like they're
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: into home decor as well. The style interest overlaps in
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: like their own wardrobe as well as a Marlowe Hampton.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Perfect example. They have other people who love clothes and
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: love style and just don't really care about like. their
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: home decor or whatever. They won't live nowhere, broach infested
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: or nothing, but like, they don't care about updating and
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: fixing up a house, whatever. I was just wondering where
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: they fall in that because after the, the home damage
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: in the Hamptons that are expressing, like, we got to
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: get a loan and shit, you know what I'm saying?
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: All this other stuff.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, I wonder if they, spend money on
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: clothes and like childcare and stuff.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Cause that shit gets expensive.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: They got four kids. Yeah. They got four kids.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: I'm assuming.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: So I just wonder if the money kind of goes there.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: And also to be clear, that's not a cheap town
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: home to rent whatsoever. They paying what you think Carlos
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: about 19, 22.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: About 22 grand a month. So like, I'll just wonder
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: why they pick that one.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Cause it doesn't reflect, The taste level that we saw
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: executed in the Hamptons home, nor does it reflect some
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: of the taste level we've seen Aaron's wardrobe, minus those
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: capris and them.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Kidneys she had on her back.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine if she just had on a black,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: if she had on like a black wide leg pant?
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Think about how that would have just changed the whole shit.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? And some dope shoes. Because
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Erin can dress, Carlos. She be at her shit, so
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know what happened with them.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: I'm stuck up in the capris, child.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, them cigarette-led capris she had on. You know they
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: had little slits at the knee bend, right on the end, Carlos.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Little one-inch slit at the knee bend. I was confused, baffled, befuddled.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: You know? That's all. I was just like, wow.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: And then Jessel came in and tore it up, talking
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: about Alcatraz on the Upper West Side.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Bars on the window and shit. Jessa went on. Oh,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: you didn't call my husband gay?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Jessa was funny. She made me laugh this episode. She
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: made me laugh this episode. And like you said, it
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: was her give back.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: As it should have been.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: And it goes to show you too that guess who
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: did not have anything to say about it?
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Daisy. And with that being said, we'll see y'all next week.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Raindrops, let us know your thoughts on this
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: episode of Roni.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: And don't forget, Dustin is on tour.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: So Dustin, you'll be in D.C. November. Once again, let
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: the Raindrops know.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: That's right, baby. November 20th, the Miracle Theater in D.C.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I cannot wait. I've been in the lab cooking. Chef
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: cooking with the pot. Been in the lab with the
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: pen writing. I'm so excited to premiere this new material.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: It's all new shit. I've never done any of these
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: jokes in any city before. So it's all new stuff.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: About 90 minutes worth of material. We're going to have
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: a good time. So come on out. DustinRossLive.com is where
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: you can get your tickets. And again, that is on
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: November 20th in Washington, D.C.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: At the Miracle Theater. Holler at your boy. Thank you, Los.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: Thank you, man. I'll see you next time. Love you, bro.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Love you, bro. Peace out.
• 48:20
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• 48:24
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• 48:27
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• 48:30
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