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Welcome everyone to Simply Bitcoin, we break down the news
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from Twitter. The daily fail name review,
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software releases Hardware releases and the websites by
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plebs or plebs. We have two very special guests
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joining us. We have Desiree, who is the CEO
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of at Thunder games and Christian, who is app game
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developer, and tinker and the co-founder of Z, BD, B, IO &
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At the time of this recording. The block height is seven
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hundred fourteen thousand four hundred twenty seven the Bitcoin
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price 48,000, 35 chain rewrite day, 752 total public lightning
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capacity, 3289 dots, The eight, Moscow time is climbing 2082 and
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the blocks to the have inning 125,000 573.
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Well, mother embarrass another all-time high for block height,
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but Phil, I think we should just pre-record that segment because
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we're just basically saying the same thing.
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We've been saying the same thing for the last three weeks.
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I've been awfully boring. But anyways, enough of us
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because people just hearsay the same goddamn numbers every day,
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guys. What do you feel?
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I'm going to pass it to Desiree. First, are you as bored as we
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are? What's going on board with
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Bitcoin? Well, the numbers, the numbers
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numbers, there's no you can't be bored with Bitcoin.
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That's simple. That's physically impossible.
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Yeah the numbers the numbers are boring to me II.
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Guess the number that used to interest me a lot was like the
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like a network capacity but like Even that I'm like where we've
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reached we've reached a point where we're not going back so
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it's all good to me now. Now I can just like focus and
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not be starting at the number all the time but then we'll do
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what the number will do and there's not much I can do to
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influence that. I love, you know, that you have
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a real Bitcoin her on the show, when they give, that type of
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answer, which is like, hey, I'm just enjoying the ride ups and
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downs. Welcome to the Bitcoin roller
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coaster. But anyways, I'm going to pass
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it on. Christian Christian, what are
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your feelings? Observations thoughts of are
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just, you know, worried. Do you know, Dennis, do you know
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him 58? Yeah, - yeah.
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All right, well, he's this meme guy on Twitter and he cursed
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everybody because he made a meme about 50 aka the price.
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So yeah. Anyway, so you don't know him,
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so it's awkward. What are your thoughts on the
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price and the numbers? I think it's she said it's
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important to see the block. I is going up with that went
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down. I saw Start to worry a little
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bit. That something is probably very
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wrong that goes down. But yeah, the numbers I don't
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check the numbers. I don't have to, I just know
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when like from my friends and family when they start to
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message me, I can tell he's going up or down.
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That's kind of like my gauge. I don't have to kind of check
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the number but we got. Oh, I know.
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That's the one time that I do. Look is like I know that we're
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in a dip. When like all the haters like in
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my life, start messaging me. Be like environment atmosphere.
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Things up or down, kind of thing.
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Yeah. And that's like my signal to buy
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buy. The dip is when when that
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happens I love the text message which is like, are you okay?
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You know, it's like are you like you know you got the best judges
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of Bitcoin drops like 30 40 % you get the text with, are you
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okay? And I love it because last time
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someone did that to me, I sent them a screenshot of nine
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bouquet, lay saying he bought the dip you know.
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So I was like here. That's my answer to.
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Are you okay? It's kind of a sign of people
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coming into Bitcoin, right? Because people have been in
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there long enough to kind of, just, like a roller coaster,
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right? Kind of up and down.
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It's like no big deal, right? But then yet, so it's gone down,
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it's like, oh, like, what's that mean, from the movie, with them,
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always like a Netflix. Want like a cowboy?
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One Buster Scruggs. It has a thing where he's in the
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news. Oh yeah, it's time.
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It's kind of like that, you know.
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No, yeah, dude. Totally it.
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The Phil, go ahead. because I just wanted to draw a special
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attention to the the really quick comment that Christian
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made about the block height that what would worry him is that if
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the block height was going down Love is like for a split second.
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I'm just listening like yeah, that I'm like, wait a second.
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What chains? Like the block height.
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Just like, doesn't go up right for a long time and then they're
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like, there's like a bug in them kind of thing.
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So, you know, that is the end of the world, though.
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I remember walking down, there was a 15 minutes, we're like, it
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didn't change or 60 Minutes or something like that.
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Like I yeah, difficulty adjustments and all this kind
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of, yeah, and I was like, wait a second.
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It's been a while dude. Much longer than 15 minutes.
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I think it's been like 35 40 minutes at one point Never
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noticed, especially with the China banned.
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But, but, but yeah, if the block height started going backwards
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that like, could for the like couldn't go, no, no, because I
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could, if you on the wrong chain of a fork and then you basically
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got real back to the other chain, which had, you know, but
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guess it would normally go to the longest and it would just
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start along exchange. It would just go to that.
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Just stay at the number. It would just go to the yeah it
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would be the Anika technical scenario which that could happen
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though. It would be another world.
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A Bitcoiners it even if the price did it move bitcoiners
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would be freaking out about it. Be like okay, this is bad.
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Something's going on. We don't know what it is.
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But anyways, I got some hope IAM for everybody.
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Check this out. Phil.
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Oh just, you know, show some numbers right because this is
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the numbers. Check this out, this is glass
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node, the lightning network capacity and the reason I
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brought this up is because Desiree cursed us, okay?
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And I'm pretty upset because she said it was going up, but now
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it's going down. Look at that did.
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And this completely happened because Desiree said What She
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Said. So desert, what are your
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thoughts on that? I don't know.
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I have no idea.
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I have not seen that yet, obviously, but I will say, I
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mean, Chris, you probably remember this.
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Like, do you remember when like Ellen big came online and put,
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like all of that Bitcoin on the lightning Network?
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And that was just like the most insane day because everybody was
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like, what the hell is going on? Like where did all of this
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Bitcoin come from? And I, We'll say I in El
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Salvador at the adopting Bitcoin conference, I got an Ellen big
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mug cake with that went there. Yeah.
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And it was like, I it's one of my favorite mugs.
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Great. So awesome, awesome, good stuff.
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So, guys, from this moment on this dip will be referred to as
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the Desiree dip. We will not forget it, but
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listen to be it all seriousness. I was gonna go show the
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lightning network capacity and then she just she gave me away
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in. She gave me a door to make a
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joke about it. It's oh sorry.
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Sorry Desiree. Welcome to Simply pick one.
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Anyways, I'm going to pass it on to Christian Christian.
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What are your thoughts? Matt look, it's just a small
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dip, it's not really important. We're joking.
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But any thoughts man? That it's literally gone
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parabolic. The lightning network capacity.
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One of the issues Zebedee. We are worried about is do we
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have enough liquidity to power like some some of the game
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studios who are coming on board, you know?
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So yeah, like you know, we're you know, we're actively trying
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to accumulate You know, to kind of bump up the liquidity, but
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then that gets into like, well, do we bite now?
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I do bite later, you know? Yeah, they're saying.
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But yeah, but like this definitely just going to be a
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shortage of liquidity going forward.
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Just like as, you know, ourselves it is there buddy.
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And also, what Des is doing at Thunder games, like a game.
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Can just like go viral just like so randomly.
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I was watching this thing on Among Us the other day this
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morning. Actually and the devs were just
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Talking about, it's like nothing, nothing, nothing
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nothing then Korean like podcaster, like pick them off
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and then he like a million daily active user, so that could
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that's going to happen at some point was with our Bitcoin
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games, I'm certain of it. Absolutely.
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And then we're going to have no liquidity.
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So it's the quiddity. But that's it.
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That's it. Can also be unbalanced and
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that's a good problem, because that's a hell of an incentive,
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right? If that happens, if there's no
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liquidity, that's a hell of an incentive.
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So, I'm Phil, go ahead. I'm sorry, and I just want to
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point out to his point. Write the Christians point about
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the channels, being unbalanced, maybe that's going to force the
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user experience for balancing channels to push forward and
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just be a little a little bit smoother because don't get me
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wrong like it's cool that the functionality is there.
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But like a lot of it people don't just like, it's not
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intuitive, you know, in a lot of these in a lot of these
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interfaces. So so maybe, you know, maybe the
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explosion of users is going to help everybody out.
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I think, I think there's a little bit of progress that's
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been made on that, but I'm actually like, more bullish on,
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you know, companies like Zebedee who for, I mean, obviously
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there's all of us who've had to deal with this for so long, but
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like, the people who are coming to the lightning Network and
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using the lightning Network to power their games, like
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zebedee's like extrapolating, all of that like, technical All
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of those, like technical things, we have to balance your own
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channels. They're like taking that away
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from the user. So, like the, you like, the
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developer doesn't actually have to deal with that, which I think
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is really powerful. Yeah, I would say we take it
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away from the developer because the user, they use a wallet that
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we might not control. So they could use our wallet,
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but they could use, well, it is Satoshi, right?
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Then it's up to wallet and Satoshi, and Zebedee to make
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sure our tunnels are balanced, but we definitely take it away
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from from the game devs, but it is I think it's kind of, like
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one of these new things, you know, how, like people say, the
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annoyed jobs will disappear. So that's your job that we need
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is like full-time Channel balancer or something here.
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And then at least be companies. Need somebody like that or maybe
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even up somebody at least two people because then, you know,
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some one person has to sleep, you know.
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So it's got a nation will go to sleep the guy who currently at
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the moment manages to channels. So go to sleep but then one of
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the games will just like take off and then like your wakes up
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in the morning and like well it was so she can't withdraw like
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all out, you know. It's it's just that happens.
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A lot in in startups on something goes wrong.
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A lot of it's just like the guy who's got that was he was just
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asleep. It reminds me of that, you know,
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that Meme with the dog and he's in the house.
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That's on fire. Like everything is fine and he's
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just holding the coffee go. But yeah, look II, totally
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brought this topic. Randy, let me these numbers
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randomly like the nose. Okay, this would be fun to talk
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about. But man, it was, it was, it was
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good, I learned. So I didn't know that Bitcoin
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and gaming was so intertwined with the lightning network
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capacity and I'm sure that a lot of years didn't know that as
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well. So it's really, really cool
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stuff. But anyways, Phil it's time for
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I tried to warn them. Nico told me to give Next, I
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still think that it's freaky, that yellow is going to appear,
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and I'm sure that this is creepy for our guests to, but let's
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just keep going. I'm back, smart ways that sense.
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All right, we have an interesting fail.
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This kind of just strange, right?
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Because we're talking about this a little bit on bitcoin
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kindergarten last night and I was putting the story together
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and it just fit perfectly, right?
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So look we've all gone through the you know the you know the
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plan demick and all that good stuff and you know, we Seeing
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all the different reasons for all the money Printing, and all
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of the control and all of the security that gets re in all of
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the freedom that gets taken away in right replaced with quote
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unquote security. So anyways, let's dive into this
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thread that laser hottel had. This is a really interesting
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thread and we're also going to pull together some stories from
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the mainstream media, just to just to show essentially how the
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narrative really is building very quickly, okay?
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So what narrative are we talking about?
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Let's dive I've in cyber pandemic.
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Hypothesis. Number one, mask the false flag
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hack. Number two, NATO triggers
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Article Five for the second time ever, first was 9/11 great.
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Reset allies together against cyber terrorism.
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Calls for digital identity. Only Internet, which we've
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already, we've already covered. Okay.
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Great, firewall of the West. Let's dive into this, right?
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So let's take a look at this. This was August 21st.
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Now, what laser has done Right? And we have to give him credit
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for this for this thread, but this is fantastic because he
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just kept on adding more and more pieces to it.
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So now, we move over to September 7th, new research
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warns politically convenient, solar storm could hit before
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2030 with 12 percent likelihood. The next solar storm could
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plunge the world into an internet apocalypse.
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That keeps large swath is of society offline for weeks, or
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even months at a time. There we go.
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September 7th, here we go, another comment around the same
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time, the White House is the White House cyber Strike Team.
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C is a published cyber toolkit, which warns of electromagnetic
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pulse and cyber attacks as possible.
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Attack vectors. All right, so here we go.
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We're fast forwarding to October 6.
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The u.s. establishes cryptocurrency Strike Team to
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Halt markets used by criminals. Now we fast forward to October
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10th. Will the Cyber pandemic,
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leverage a real solar storm in order to provide plausible
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deniability for Mass outage. Okay?
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So We could see what's happening here, right?
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They're planting the seed, right?
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The seed is being planted for what's coming.
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What's coming? Most likely is going to be some
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type of faked scenario with some type of blackouts for
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communications going on. Alright, so now we're fast
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forwarding to December 9th, right?
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Israel in the IMF leads simulation of catastrophic
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cyberattack on the Global Financial system in this latest
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Global globalist wargame involved involving 10 countries
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Okay. Now, here we go day.
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This was like just a cut like, this was like just yesterday,
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right? Powell signals, fear of major
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Cyber attack on financial system.
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Let's take a look at this. We're not going to watch the
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whole video though, because that's, you know, we'll just
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share the link. So you guys can II would say,
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you know, cyber risk that the risk of a successful Cyber
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attack is for me, you know, always the most, you know, the
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one that we would be very difficult to deal with.
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I think we know how to deal with bad loans and things like that.
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I think more a Cyber attack that were to take down a major
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financial institution or financial market.
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Utility would be a really significant financial stability
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risks, that we haven't actually faced yet.
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So that's the key right there. Haven't faced it yet.
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But soon it's going to provide a reason for way more money
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printing, because we need more excuses to print more money.
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Okay, that's my assertion. Anyways, that's my opinion.
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Because remember, you have to create narratives, right?
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Like money doesn't just get printed for nothing.
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You need reasons to do this, right?
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You need to, you need to provide reasons because you need to put
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on a show. This is an article from December
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13th, okay? DHS warns of critical flaw in
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widely used software. And this is the December 13, 20
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21 DHS is cyber security infrastructure.
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Security Agency, ordered Federal civilian agencies to update
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their software and Jen, easterly.
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The head of an agency warned that the vulnerability was being
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widely exploited by a growing set of hackers.
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So, here we go, the situation escalated before the weekend.
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When a tool, when a tool for exploiting, the vulnerability
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was made public on GitHub. A software repository, that gave
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malicious hackers, a potential road map for how to use the
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vulnerability to break into devices, and they're just there.
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Talking about the log4j software.
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Okay? This is, this is the actual
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piece of software that they're, you know, that they're talking
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about, but wait, there's more right?
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Because we're not done, it's not just like some piece of
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software. We need to worry about others.
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We need to worry about everything.
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Okay, gotta worry about the software.
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Boom. Now we've got here.
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An all right. U.s. warns that a rhenium
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government-sponsored hackers are targeting key us
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infrastructures. Now, my favorite part about this
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is this Windows XP screenshot I like that hackers today.
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I guess they're still using these old forms.
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I guess they haven't started using the new forms anyways.
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Very interesting. I applaud, huh?
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I applaud the Windows XP window, frame?
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I do. It's a rare case for the US
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government publicly linking Iran with ransomware.
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Now they link them with other things which is typically used
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by cybercriminals rather than governments.
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And it's a reminder that America's ransomware problem is
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not limited to Russia. That's right.
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Not just worrying about Ran in this in this article worrying
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about Russia to now. So you've got software that you
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can't stop. You've got countries that are
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trying to hack into you bad times, it's bad times.
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And then, of course, I had to just go do a quick search and
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this morning, right? Just for the sake of it, I could
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see the three articles that pulled up and of course,
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obviously I'm doing a search right for government warns of
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cyber. What do we pull up?
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When we pull up the, the CEO of JPMorgan warning about a Cyber
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attack, right? The j.p.
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Morgan, right? The j.p.
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Morgan counsel apparently, these guys are experts right?
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The White House is warning, the right.
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So here we go, White House, Warren, CEOs of heightened,
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cyber risk. Check this out, the White House
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is warning, CEOs of the heightened cyber risk.
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This is amazing. These guys are just full of
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intelligence then look by National Security, official
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warns of heightened risk of malicious Cyber attack.
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Okay, so you guys, you can obviously see the picture that
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we've painted, okay, it's inevitable, there's going to be
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a massive attack. It's going to block out.
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Random parts of communication wherever they see fit and
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there's nothing we can do but I'm sure that they're going to
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provide a solution. I don't know what that solution
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is going to be. I have no idea, maybe some new
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app that tracks you. I don't see how that would help.
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I know that money printing is definitely going to be part of
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the solution. I just don't know what else, I
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know for sure that we print money to make things go away.
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So we're going to do that for sure but I don't know what else
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Nico what else do we do besides that to make to make problems go
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away. Look So, first of all, like,
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we're speculating. That's number one.
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Okay. It's all speculation.
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We don't know for sure. But what I can say for a fact
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and we've actually done a pretty good job at covering this, the
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last couple months is, which is what we've been telling you
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guys. The, the internet has
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facilitated has allowed people to communicate freely and openly
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Express their ideas against the The Narrative of government's,
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right? You see the Legacy Media?
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A certain narrative and then on Twitter, you see the truth
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sleeping and even though they tried to censor, even though
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they tried to hide replies even though they try to do these
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certain things. So a Cyber attack, which is what
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laser Hatta was saying. And what Phil is saying, is a
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very convenient way to essentially kind of do like a
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patriot act for the internet, right?
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The for governments to say, look, this is what happens if,
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you know, people have too much freedom and we don't have more
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control, and they also see the China Market.
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Model, right? The China model is the great
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firewall of China, right? Chinese government has, you
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know, an army of sensors that are deleting messages and
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deleting post from their version of Twitter, which is called
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weibo, right? So, honestly, when you have that
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many articles and that many, you know, Legacy reputable news
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sources, all saying the same thing.
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I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say what is going on
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here, especially after what we've seen.
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Over the last two years, right? Government's institutions that
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you know I think the public used to trust trust in those
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institutions are an all-time low.
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I think we could say, for a fact that governments are using the
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current situation to justify printing money like never before
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and to justify a lot of totalitarian powers.
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And a lot of those totalitarian Powers aren't really Based on
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data, right? I live in Florida.
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Florida is one of the most Open states in the US and in terms
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of, you know, the, the, in terms of regulations and that's to try
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to stop what's going on in the world and it has one of the
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lowest rates in the world, right?
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You have Sweden as well. So what is going on here, right?
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And, and again, that's just a question to ask.
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And how does this connect with the Cyber?
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The Cyber pandemic? That Phil was was covering is
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why are these people talking about this so much?
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Like why are they talking about this so much?
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What would like, you know, you have to question you.
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A wiser, White House. Talk about why is the DHS
21:23
talking about this, right? What's going on right?
21:26
A decentralized system like Bitcoin?
21:29
Yeah, you can take out a couple of miners.
21:30
In fact, China did this year, but the honey badgers didn't
21:33
carry the incentives of Bitcoin made the Hatchery.
21:35
Come back in a record rate. I think none of us.
21:38
Expected it to come back so quickly, so there's obviously a
21:42
solution to the Cyber attack. These cyber attacks affect
21:45
centralized systems. Write the answer to.
21:48
This is not giving a central Authority. 40 more power so that
21:52
you can put more to Talent arianism, it's to implement a
21:56
new system that isn't prone to those types of vulnerabilities.
21:59
Anyway, that's my opinion. I'd love to get Desiree's
22:02
thoughts and then Christians, Well I personally love cyber
22:08
attacks and kidding my I mean so to me I don't know, my husband
22:15
actually works in cyber security so I hear about this stuff like
22:19
way more than the average person and it's so boring to me.
22:24
No not anymore but that's the date.
22:27
When's the black? I should.
22:29
I make another prediction you guys.
22:32
I predict like it's going to be January. 17 you heard it?
22:38
No it was we would it be before or after Chinese New Year?
22:41
I guess? I don't know.
22:43
I don't know. I don't know.
22:46
I mean it's all I don't even know what to believe anymore.
22:49
Be let me think, Desiree. Let me ask you something.
22:53
We are filling. I just seeing things that are
22:55
not there. No, I think we're totally
22:58
fucked. Like, I think we're.
22:59
So totally fucked. I mean, I think like the bigger
23:01
threat is actually China from like everything that I've heard.
23:05
and it's like, that's where and it's not like that's their cyber
23:09
attacked, it's like Theft of, you know, business Secrets theft
23:17
of, you know, things that are valuable to the US.
23:21
Like I think that's the biggest threat to the US, like, from
23:24
what I've observed personally, but, I mean, it's just like
23:28
non-stop going on Non-Stop going on all the time where, you know,
23:32
there's threats all the time and no one's actually combating
23:35
them. Like there's a tags all the time
23:36
and people are just paying Ransom where I mean like
23:39
everyone's just like Into their their budgets, right?
23:44
But like, the government is also adding it into their budgets.
23:48
Which how does the government budget for something like this?
23:51
And it's called printing money, right?
23:53
I worked. I was a consultant and I, you
23:57
know, worked on contracts for the federal government for some
23:59
time. And it's like, really, really
24:01
scary how, you know, what, what the federal spending looks like.
24:05
So, you know, when there's money to spend, they're going to spend
24:09
it all and so they can get bigger budget next year.
24:14
And where do the budgets come from from spending, from her
24:17
from, from pretty money? So, I mean, I think it's there's
24:21
a lot of things tied together, I don't know.
24:23
Like, if there's like, I think all these people are way too
24:27
stupid to actually know that something is coming.
24:31
I think it's just there's this is happy all of the time, all of
24:35
the time. Like I mean there was like I
24:37
just hear about it more often. I think most people do where
24:40
it's like, you know, I think there Like a town in Alabama
24:43
that like or a City Alabama that was like ransomware.
24:46
Damn, like all of these places and people are just it's just
24:51
the norm now and so it's just inevitable that there's a
24:55
really, really huge one coming up or some type of attack coming
24:59
up and I think these people are just like covering their asses
25:03
and trying to get bigger budgets and the government's just going
25:07
to keep printing money. Yep but are no, it's okay.
25:11
Because Bitcoin fixes us. Yeah I'm okay.
25:16
I'm okay we're okay so like I'm not I'm not bothered by it but
25:20
you know, I feel bad for the not the no corners.
25:23
Absolutely Christian. I'm going to ask you the same
25:26
question. Are we crazy?
25:28
Tinfoil hat YouTubers. Lately everything's fine.
25:34
I didn't like, I guess You know, I'm just a Bitcoin gaming dead
25:40
guy, so I'm No Authority on the geopolitics of the world are
25:44
just two idiots. Just to maybe I can give cause,
25:49
like, you guys are all in the states, right?
25:52
So it's probably like, slightly different news.
25:54
Things we see all the different environment, but I guess, I, my
25:58
understanding is like, we're kind of like, you know, it's it
26:01
seems like we're in a kind of cold war with China, right?
26:04
Yeah. And, you know, the weapons of
26:05
the future are Cyber attacks. So given that we're in a cold
26:10
war with China. It's quite possible that one is
26:15
on the way. I wonder if it's a little bit
26:17
like the nuclear deterrent, like China knows that they can shut
26:21
off our power, but we know that China can shut off our power or
26:26
but China also knows that we could show off their power.
26:29
So we don't show up each other's power.
26:31
Maybe there's a deterrent effect would stop it happening because
26:34
that's the same with nukes. We live it in a new will but we
26:37
haven't had a nuke because it's mutually assured destruction,
26:39
Right? Touch wood.
26:40
So maybe that's why it won't happen.
26:42
Even though it's literally a button press away, which it
26:45
doesn't give you much comfort. But yeah.
26:49
You know. It's scary.
26:51
No. I've just had like a kid.
26:52
So I think about these things more.
26:54
Now, you know? Hmm.
26:57
That's why I'm teaching him how to hunt and make fire and go
27:01
camping. We'll be all right.
27:02
How to get out of the city forever.
27:05
I'm a I am out of this. So yeah, already.
27:08
So a lot of Bitcoin just do that, right?
27:10
Don't they, they kind of want it stops.
27:11
Moving. They live on a farm and get the
27:13
blocks from satellite or something.
27:15
It's true and you know put your seed and metal you know buried
27:20
in in the hole somewhere, you know, protect it from vibrating.
27:24
I did that I was on a boat and it fell out and it's got the
27:28
ocean you too. Yeah, I think he's an man.
27:32
None of us should go near any water or any every time.
27:36
A big boy. Yes.
27:36
On a boat. Always, there's always an
27:38
accident. I don't know what's gone.
27:40
It's just God. God.
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29:59
I'm a nerd like that anyways, Desiree.
30:01
Did you give those memes? I gave them my glass of panda
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that? Can you beat that score?
30:23
You know what? I'm gonna go classy on this one.
30:26
Especially after my Alex Jones moment.
30:29
We're gonna go with this painting so now it's an owl.
30:34
Yep. Colorful owl pretty?
30:35
Oh wow. Okay awesome.
30:37
Very nice thing that I got and lat Gloucester I don't know I
30:41
can't pronounce anything in New England.
30:43
It's glue Chester. Gloucester I've no idea
30:47
Christian you know how to pronounce that I didn't.
30:50
Well I didn't know it's felt but it doesn't matter how its spelt
30:54
I'm in New England. Yeah.
30:56
Anyway It's a town so we have we have lots of words in England
31:00
towns or cities and in Chester so lost like so there's like
31:04
Manchester is one or Chester is another one or Gloucester.
31:07
Sir is another one. It's yeah.
31:09
Who you got? I think that's it.
31:14
I think the meaning is Roman town.
31:17
I believe. It means it was like a role
31:19
obviously in the state's it wasn't it probably was named
31:21
after the original anything about those.
31:22
It is a town was built when the Romans occupied us all.
31:26
So once occupied us they they ruled us but there were making
31:31
Romans moved over. But anyway.
31:33
Yeah, that's probably where so Christian.
31:35
What would you think you for that?
31:37
I didn't know that see more you learn the more you know so
31:40
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31:42
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34:20
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34:23
So that's like it. What you've just seen.
34:26
Scene. So let me ask you something.
34:29
How did the how the okay because I'm looking at I was a bit like
34:32
okay but how did the economics of that work?
34:36
Yeah. So right now, the way that it
34:39
sort of because obviously you can't be doing Bitcoin payments
34:43
in the game itself because of the rules with the app store,
34:49
Google Play Store. So right now the way it's set up
34:52
as you know the more you play you can earn these tickets
34:56
really Purple tickets that appear during the game or, you
34:58
know, you win them as rewards and then there is a daily raffle
35:03
where you can in turn sets daily with those tickets and I mean
35:09
pretty much everybody wins. Um but that's how it is.
35:13
We have it working out now obviously it would be more ideal
35:17
who are like doing Bitcoin payments and the game but you
35:20
know we want to always make sure that our games are available in
35:25
the App Store. Google Play Store because that
35:27
is like the safest most familiar place for people to go and
35:32
download apps. And you know that that's really
35:35
one of the biggest missions of Thunder is bringing Bitcoin to
35:38
people through mobile games. So you know like our chief
35:43
product officer, he won his first Bitcoin playing the coin
35:47
bounce and that's how he became a Bitcoin or he one Bitcoin me
35:50
like I'm not going to like delete this game for my phone
35:53
because I have Bitcoin in here and then he was really forced to
35:56
learn And how to You Know download a wallet and cash out
35:59
his Bitcoin to you know any like Zebedee wallet wallet of Satoshi
36:04
any While others choosing and he became a bit cleaner that way.
36:09
So that's really our mission is just making really fun addicting
36:14
mobile games like introduce people to bitcoin and make it
36:17
really, really simple to to earn Bitcoin.
36:22
Where it's like, you don't have to go to coinbase and like
36:24
upload a photo of your Port and like sacrifice your firstborn
36:28
and, you know, those type of things.
36:31
So it's very, very easy, simple onboarding process.
36:34
So you were you're saying, is, it's kyc free so to play.
36:39
Yeah. So, I mean, once you cash out
36:42
there are, like, you have an account and stuff like that, but
36:45
it's our. There's different types of kyc
36:49
for different limits but like to actually like earn your first
36:52
Bitcoin. You don't need to like go
36:55
through that whole Kyc process. So, yeah, and it's man, the KY.
37:00
It's just so annoying. We actually had a kyc expert on
37:03
the show, and we literally went through it.
37:07
He wrote this amazing paper, and he's essentially made the
37:10
argument, right? That with the receipts, that kyc
37:13
doesn't stop anything, right? It actually helps criminals,
37:16
right? And you guys could go check out
37:18
that episode, but Desiree, I have a question for you.
37:21
So when I asked you, like how the economics of this work like,
37:25
what's in it? For who's paying this Bitcoin to
37:28
like, who's paying the gamers Bitcoin?
37:31
Yeah. So, right now, I'm and that's
37:33
something really that we're excited to experiment with, but
37:36
right now it's just like, very traditional mobile monetization
37:40
model. So through ads, which sock and
37:44
that's something that we're working through doing surveys
37:47
and tasks who offer walls and then obviously sponsorship.
37:51
So, you know, it's working, you know, people are in and also in
37:56
game. App purchases, which, you know,
37:58
I believe the both stores and Chris, maybe you can correct me
38:03
if I'm wrong. You can actually like purchase
38:06
in-game assets outside of the App Store and so I think there's
38:11
like some things you can do there with their quaint, but
38:13
yeah, we're right now we're just operating solely on kind of,
38:17
like those traditional Mobile gaming models, which, you know,
38:20
that's something that we're really thinking about too is
38:22
like, okay, how can we make These ads or these ways that
38:28
were monetizing like more meaningful and make them more of
38:32
like a circular in-game economy. So right now, it's working
38:36
because those models like do make money very well actually.
38:41
So you know also we're not going to just throw Bitcoin into
38:45
something and hope that it's better than you know the current
38:50
model like if it isn't fixed, is it isn't broken, why are we
38:53
fixing it? So we're trying to do something
38:54
that like Actually is it's a better incentive and it for
39:00
people to switch to like, kind of what we're working on.
39:04
So I mean that I didn't know this was possible because I
39:08
never understood the incentives but now that you've explained,
39:10
it makes a whole lot of sense. But that Christian you want to
39:13
say something? Yeah, I was gonna say like so
39:15
games have ads anyway, but the usually gets nothing for ya,
39:19
right? You know, so what like Jack and
39:22
does do it Sunday games and I've also done in the past I'm doing
39:26
now is you just give a percentage of the ad Revenue
39:30
back to the player and then it kind of makes them play more if
39:32
those then they kind of make more Revenue.
39:35
So it's kind of a win-win situation.
39:37
And also, if you kind of know that your players are all kind
39:40
of like people interested in learning Bitcoin, you can
39:43
actually get a premium on the ads because you kind of, you can
39:45
go to like, you know, a Bitcoin company who wants Bitcoin
39:49
people, right? You know, things like, hey, you
39:51
know, all our players are winning Bitcoin in a something
39:54
like an exchange. For example, right here, the
39:57
winning Bitcoins are going to want to cash out maybe at some
39:59
point so show, you know, so you get a premium.
40:02
So yeah, it's quite, you know, obviously it's I think going
40:05
forward, everybody just wants to have some sort of circular
40:08
economy where people are buying and selling.
40:10
But you know, this is really cool, low-hanging fruit, you
40:14
know, it's just, and it's a great way to set to onboard
40:17
people because, you know, people, you know, bit confused
40:21
or about how to get into Bitcoin and they don't want to go to an
40:24
exchange and then have the kyc Themself up to the eyeballs to
40:26
get the first Bitcoin but with lightning games because the
40:30
first amounts are so small, at least Zebedee, you know up to
40:36
her like a decent amount, you have to do any kyc and then if
40:40
you start to get like in a more than like two hundred dollars
40:43
or, you know, a few days then it you know, unfortunately, kyc
40:47
comes it into it, but just to kind of orange pill people.
40:51
You can just do that by tapping a screen and yes it's really
40:54
cool to see it. And I think people, I mean, I
40:58
hate care we see as much as the next person but like, you know,
41:01
ultimately like most places you have to do it, especially, you
41:05
know, if you're a business there's Frameworks we have to
41:07
operate within. But, you know, I find it like,
41:10
when people this is me, yeah, I'm calling you this would be
41:14
great in jail. No.
41:17
But, you know, I think it's so much better to, you know, for
41:21
people to have actually won the Bitcoin.
41:23
In had have having had fun winning that Point they're going
41:26
to be like much more okay with going through that kyc process
41:30
because they've already earned the Bitcoin rather than going
41:33
through like kyc with with coinbase up front and then being
41:37
like, oh shit. Now I have to actually give you
41:40
Fiat money to and like it feels like you're having to do so much
41:45
up front. Where is like with games?
41:47
You know, like psychologically, it feels like you're being
41:51
gifted something and then you're having to do like some of tap,
41:54
some kind of Happy task on the other side and so I think people
41:58
are more willing to do that. At least that's what you know,
42:01
we're finding anyways. That's a that's awesome.
42:05
That the incentives are aligned that it gives you the ability
42:09
because you know it's exactly what you said right where people
42:13
were trading in time and they're getting nothing in return and
42:17
now you guys have figured out a way to essentially reward them
42:21
with the best thing that you could reward them with which is
42:24
SATs and Bitcoin. So let me ask you guys
42:27
something. I'm assuming all of this is over
42:31
lightning. Yes.
42:35
And sometimes over database, but definitely over lightning.
42:38
So, like we have anything at Zebedee, you know, because we
42:42
have our own Langlois Latt, and we also have games that use our
42:46
API. So, sometimes if the user is
42:49
playing. Now, a game on our platform with
42:51
wallet of Satoshi that Center over, like me where the plane
42:54
with our wallets 0.2, send it over lightly because it's
42:56
get-go. From our note to our note, then
42:58
we do like a very this new technique all databases super
43:01
scalable. But yeah, it's Lightning people
43:04
get sets pretty much because I actually tried to do that.
43:07
I was doing this in. 2013-2014 I had a mobile game, pretty much
43:12
what Thunder games are doing but it was all on chain and I was,
43:17
you know, in got a lot of hate and for filling up blocks along
43:22
with such a nice and ultimately stopped working because any
43:28
areas like it cost too much to send these microtransactions.
43:32
Yeah, so So instead of going over to some other chains that
43:36
my contemporaries went over or make you my own solution II knew
43:39
that lightning was, you know, coming?
43:43
Yeah, so it and it's here and it works great.
43:46
So let me ask you something. Now, there you look back, right?
43:50
Was that it compared to where? And of course don't name names
43:55
or anything, you know, not to try to put any people, any
43:58
people on the spot. But, you know, part of the show
44:01
is, you know, to at least provide Counter narrative to a
44:04
lot of the shit coin channels, right?
44:05
And I think that you said something really interesting,
44:08
which was you decided to stick with Bitcoin and you decided not
44:13
to develop with shit coins. So how where do you see your
44:18
contemporaries now and compared to where you are?
44:23
Or perhaps that is too much of a delicate question you know like
44:28
to name names. But it was funny because he's
44:32
quite a The word that's a German word like schadenfreude.
44:36
Is it the word or something? But I remember that we were
44:39
building on bitcoin and then we're also doing other stuff
44:42
with like, what are now called nft is I guess but they're
44:45
called tokens on counterparty which is the protocol.
44:48
So doing all this stuff payments and stuff and then a all got
44:51
expensive. And everybody went out whenever
44:53
said, hey, this is new chain which these got zero fees and
44:57
its really fast, so we should just jump over on that.
44:59
And I remember telling my contemporaries like they haven't
45:02
solved. I think technically they're just
45:04
basically not a popular chain you just kicking the can down
45:07
the road as soon as that chain gets popular you know you're
45:10
going to have the same issue. So all those people now are
45:12
moving from aetherium to Solana now or something.
45:15
Sure, they kind of move from Bitcoin to a theory of anatomy,
45:19
from a theory of to like EOS and to a Solana.
45:22
So yeah it's kind of. So that's why you know, I just
45:27
like to be fair I think a lot of those people they were had made
45:29
companies so they needed to kind of get their product out there.
45:33
And it needed to be working. So you know, I was just an indie
45:36
developer so I could just kind of, you know, shop for a year or
45:39
two. Well lightning was ready.
45:41
So but yeah you know that was the main reason I just didn't
45:45
see. They think they sold didn't
45:47
really solve anything technically descale and Bitcoin
45:50
actually is has the best chance of scaling because it's Bitcoin
45:54
is inherently simple. It's just trying to do one thing
45:56
right? It's trying to do money when all
45:58
these chains will try to do all sorts of things like smart
46:00
contracts and that's an order of magnitude.
46:03
Difficult to scale, even if it's possible.
46:05
But with Bitcoin, all you've got to do is kind of say all you got
46:08
to do but you've got to scale one use case kind of sending
46:10
money. So that's why we're able to make
46:13
something like the lightning Network.
46:16
That's like, I mean, there was like an interesting article and,
46:20
you know, I would love to hear about people's opinions were
46:23
like, I think it was Roy from Breeze who came out and like,
46:26
you know, there's a lot of people who are like trying to
46:28
build on top of on top of lightning and, you know, you
46:32
create these like their lairs, you know, doing a lot of what
46:35
you're talking about Chris. I mean, I feel like you have
46:39
like some type of weird like crystal ball where you this like
46:42
see this happening down the line.
46:45
I mean, you're like the OG with, like the coin gaming to.
46:48
So, I mean, like what do you think about that stuff being
46:51
done on bitcoin and on top of the lightning Network?
46:55
Would you mean like what was stuff like smart contracts or
46:58
defy? Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, so I
47:02
think there's two questions. It one is like a philosophical
47:05
question. Like does this stuff need a
47:07
blockchain? I think a lot of it times, they
47:09
just deal blockchain because it's a hype and that it what
47:12
they actually want, doesn't really need it.
47:14
It's kind of like, what's the word?
47:15
It's a Rube Goldberg machine. You have seen these machines
47:17
where yeah, you know, and then went to a fight, you know.
47:20
It's just so I think there's a lot of that.
47:22
But with, so I have this thing on Twitter where I've been going
47:28
back and forth, a lot of people seem to misunderstand lightning
47:30
and it's for great as it is. People think that lightning Is
47:33
like a silver bullet and people keep saying stuff like when
47:37
lightning NF tease, for example, but the lightning for example,
47:41
can't do an EFT. He's just because you know, it's
47:45
a simple thing. Like it's quite easy to explain
47:48
on technically but I guess most people probably understand what,
47:51
maybe not that lightning is all about liquidity, right?
47:54
Lightning works because you can send Bitcoin because it's all
47:57
locked up in channels. You have liquidity and then ft
48:00
as a token of one so you don't quite have look so Yeah.
48:03
All those kind of things. I think it those things, I think
48:07
we're going to see more and stuff like trustless side
48:09
chains, you know, under some proposals, like space chains or
48:12
something or what, once we get certain stuff Forks, you know,
48:16
would be possible. Yeah, so I think for a lot of
48:19
that kind of smart contract stuff, will probably back up and
48:22
up something really interesting. And people are, what is the
48:24
space chain? Yeah, it's so it's so it's I
48:30
guess it could get quite difficult because he was facing.
48:33
It is, I guess it's kind of a type of side chain which side
48:35
chains have been spoken about in Bitcoin for a long time.
48:38
I meet, hold on, let me ask you a better question.
48:40
What does it enable? I'll leave it at that.
48:43
Well yes, a space chain enable its base chain.
48:46
Lets you do it basically lets you have your own other
48:52
blockchain which uses Bitcoin so it doesn't have its own altcoin
48:56
but it's kind of also. The security of it is anchored
49:00
to the Bitcoin maintain. Okay, a lot of like They do this
49:03
right? They'll want to have some
49:05
certain feature so you can't be on bitcoin.
49:06
So they'll make their own chain, but then you end up with a
49:08
different token and then you also end up with you got to like
49:11
do your own Mining and all this kind of stuff.
49:13
So Satan is the Bitcoin. They wanted to find a way.
49:16
Can we utilize, you know, to the current miners a Bitcoin to
49:20
secure this change but the certain issues for certain
49:23
proposals and you know gets very complicated very quickly but I
49:28
think we're slowly moving into the realm where you know Bitcoin
49:33
is slow, but eventually I think that's probably what's going to
49:36
happen. We're going to have these like
49:37
side chains and space chain is one proposal that would let you
49:42
do this stuff and lightning would do other stuff.
49:44
Lightning would focus. I think lightning would focus on
49:47
payments, but I think lightning is very good for bridging
49:50
between chains. I think that's why it's quite
49:53
useful. So, because lightning is not
49:55
specific to bitcoin a lightning can work on, you know, Litecoin
49:59
had lightning before Bitcoin did, right?
50:00
So it's kind of, you know, Lightning can be the thing that
50:04
is almost like a, you know, Super Hyper space shuttle, but
50:08
Gnostic, yeah, I suppose. So I can't that.
50:12
So I guess all Tech is blockchain act that Maggie.
50:15
Yeah, agnostic. But yeah, so yeah, but I'm a lot
50:21
of people probably hear about stuff like igb, for example, an
50:25
RGB. I think they've been, you know,
50:28
they keep saying lightning and tokens and stuff, but a lot of
50:32
the token stuff they're doing. Is not using lightning at all.
50:34
It's using kind of basically, like almost like side chains,
50:37
and stuff. So I think, you know, lightning
50:39
is cool. But what makes it cool is that
50:41
its focus and it's kind of It's laser focus, so that's why I
50:46
think like me shouldn't do all these other things, like smart,
50:49
contracts, and device, not the right tool for the job.
50:51
So we have other ones, you know, but ultimately the thing about
50:56
lightning in these things is that we can't use the Bitcoin
50:59
base chain for everything, but we can do stuff off chain.
51:02
And then, once we have an issue, like we have to say, we settle
51:06
kind of on chain. I think the same model that
51:09
makes lightning work. Will make these other things
51:11
work. Awesome really, really cool.
51:14
So, I wanted to Pivot to what you are working on Christian.
51:19
So let me pull up the zbd site, right?
51:22
And this is the thing that caught my eye, because this is a
51:24
huge game, right? I don't play personally but
51:27
Counter-Strike, right? Yeah, I'm sure I go and earn
51:30
Bitcoins so that's absolutely crazy.
51:33
That is a huge multiplayer game. And so, how does that work?
51:38
So you could play Counter-Strike for Bitcoin.
51:40
Yeah, that's it. You got it.
51:44
That's it. Yeah, so that's a great answer.
51:49
I don't mean that sarcastically I mean that totally seriously,
51:52
something. Tell you any crap.
51:54
I know. That's amazing.
51:55
That's amazing. It's so good to clarify that,
51:57
like, lot of people think well like, is it like a special
51:59
version of Counter-Strike or do I have to download or install
52:02
this mod and both cetera et cetera?
52:04
But you actually can just, you download, Counter Strike off
52:06
steam, and then you go, Susie beti.
52:09
And there's a widget, you download called Infuse and
52:12
Infuse is basically a little window.
52:14
Pops up. So you download kind of take off
52:16
steam you login, you play. And then we have the, yeah, this
52:19
companion window which is basically the thing that kind of
52:23
adds SATs to Counter-Strike. So through this window, you'll
52:27
basically, you'll have a list of games that you can play, and
52:31
you'll click on the game and then that will talk to your
52:34
Counter-Strike game. So, when you click enter game on
52:38
the Infuse, widget, it enters you in the game on the
52:43
Counter-Strike client. Then it will show your your
52:46
Bitcoin your SATs balance in the window.
52:49
So you shoot somebody you get more sacks, you get shot, you
52:51
get less SATs and then at the end of the game in that window
52:55
you scan the QR code and you can withdraw.
52:58
So it's yeah was really dude. That is you're blowing my mind
53:03
right now. That he's actually laziness
53:05
that. We did it.
53:06
This is how you get paid. You get paid to play video games
53:10
that only get paid, you get paid in Bitcoin, that's freaking
53:12
crazy. So guys, And it's also so simple
53:16
like what the Christians like said.
53:19
I mean it it's so simple to do, like, I mean, it is easier to do
53:24
everything he just said like hat like install.
53:27
The Infuse thing, and all of that than it is to play, the
53:30
actual game of csgo. It is like so beautifully done.
53:34
Like anybody could do it if you even if you've never liked used
53:37
steam before it's really good II.
53:41
Figured that was the case when he just said, You just play and
53:45
you get paid. So I figured right then and
53:46
there I was like, wow you know, this could like they're the real
53:50
deal but let me ask you guys something.
53:52
Okay so what and this is a question for both of you guys
53:55
and whoever wants to answer it where's the future of Bitcoin
54:01
SATs and video games going? Hmm.
54:06
I mean I think I mean I think it's just going to be slow I
54:10
think we're still super super early.
54:13
You know obviously All of these games that are coming out that
54:16
are just like, more. Generally blockchain games are
54:22
really massively popular right now.
54:25
I mean, look at acts infinity and there's just a bajillion of
54:28
them and their take the getting an insane amount of investment
54:33
dollars. And, you know, I don't think
54:36
that's a bad thing for Bitcoin gaming, like, hopefully, we can
54:39
also ride that game. But I think in terms of like,
54:42
you know, I think they're like sprinting.
54:44
Where I was like, we're in it for the marathon, right?
54:47
Like I think those games are super fun but there's games are
54:51
just like they're just leaking value, right?
54:55
Like I don't think there's like a long-term plan for actually,
55:00
like you said, like in some that were thinking a lot about is
55:03
like really creating like game economies that make sense.
55:07
And so I think in the end like I hope a lot of those people who
55:11
are doing blockchain came gaming, Come to like Bitcoin
55:15
gaming, right? And really just like I love what
55:19
Chris said is just like really just, you know, focusing
55:22
focusing on bitcoin for one use case and that being money and
55:28
these value transactions. And I think like if we can fix
55:32
that and gaming and make it like really empowering for players
55:37
that I think that we solved a lot of the problem.
55:39
Like I think that's just something that is just so
55:43
important to Solve and to work on and then like the fun things
55:47
come like, and of teas. And like in-game assets for
55:50
robot like that will all come but I think, you know, trying to
55:54
solve everything all at once, like nothing gets solved at all.
55:57
So yeah, I think it's just going to be slow and it will take time
56:02
and you know, there's not that many people who are who are
56:06
doing this right now. But you know the special exhibit
56:09
e has a bunch of like great developer tools for people to
56:12
like add Bitcoin into their Names.
56:14
And so, you know, I think it's just going to take time.
56:18
It's not the fun sexy thing but like is getting all the hype on
56:22
Twitter or wherever. So, you know, I think we just
56:25
have to like keep our heads down and keep building and like I
56:29
think maybe next next Bull Run will be like our time to shine.
56:34
That's kind of my prediction. Awesome.
56:36
Really good to hear that. Phil go ahead.
56:39
I was gonna say I do have a, I do have another, I have a
56:41
question for both of you guys from a you So from a fellow
56:45
viewer and a fellow Bitcoin or if you don't mind as well, okay?
56:50
So he's asking essentially, how hard would it be for any game or
56:55
genre to switch an in-game economy to something that hits
56:59
real world? Like they did with Infuse?
57:02
They replaced in game currency. But separate from the real game,
57:05
they modded it for their own servers.
57:07
I wonder how hard it would be for a game to swap over fully.
57:10
Considering for example, outside marketplaces were skins gets,
57:14
Old, how does one Swap all that over to a lightning Network
57:18
economy? Oh, I suppose if the Game Dev
57:22
the person. So obviously csgo works because
57:25
csgo is not open source, but it's model, you can have
57:28
plugins. That's why we add Bitcoin to it.
57:30
Obviously, you know, we can't. We don't have complete control
57:33
of everything, but if you are the game day so valve makes
57:36
csgo. They wanted to they could just
57:38
like me to it right there. Just basically send us an email,
57:41
we'll take. See, do you see AAA Developers?
57:44
Doing that eventually. Yeah, yes and no.
57:48
So like the larger games like all large companies, they're all
57:52
risk-averse. Right so the the kind of let the
57:55
smaller games kind of blazed a trail and a lot of what I see a
57:59
lot of these large Studios. So we've had interest from large
58:03
Studios but what they've said is like will secretly.
58:07
We actually have we have like these secrets smaller studio so
58:11
we actually own but you know they are actually Associated
58:15
with us. So we can like try out all these
58:17
few stuff and if it fails, it doesn't hurt our brand.
58:19
So a lot of these large studios are kind of doing that at the
58:22
moment that they're experimenting with their kind of
58:25
smaller Studios. Nobody knows.
58:27
I guess it's kind of like the comedian, you know, before they
58:31
do the next lecture, the go out like secretly to like, you know,
58:34
clubs and do all that bad, the material.
58:36
So, yeah, they are doing that. I personally think that, like,
58:42
what at the moment, the whole gaming space is, Like 90% 99%
58:46
it's like basically blockchain gaming.
58:48
It's like n FTS and nobody knows why in NF t means and nft
58:52
because like they do it on all these different chains.
58:54
Like I hear an announcement Melania, Trump is doing anything
58:58
he's now or something. Yeah, it's somebody's doing like
59:07
ultimately they're all going to do NF tease but in, you know,
59:09
the most kind of centralized way and I think that's very
59:14
different from What we're doing and but my point is is that it's
59:20
kind of sad but it's kind of good because it means that
59:23
Thunder games and Zebedee early and going to reap all the
59:26
rewards but nobody knows about the lightning Network yet
59:29
because you know, we haven't done a nice.
59:31
Yeah, we haven't pumped it. We haven't got like billion
59:33
dollar just for marketing, right?
59:35
So we're kind of like the slow and steady diligent Worker.
59:39
Who's like it's not it's not funded by crazy, inflated ico's
59:45
or something, but we work, we work slower.
59:48
But everything we do is going to last and it matters where I
59:52
think some of these other games that they will follow the
59:55
typical a Ico cycle, right? They'll go really really crazy
59:59
and make me billions of dollars and then eventually their token
1:00:02
dumps, all the players leave to go on to the next one you know
1:00:05
it's like they're getting these quick.
1:00:09
These vertical these quick stimulus and effect but they're
1:00:12
not, I don't think they have anything sustainable but games
1:00:17
that utilize a value mechanism, which ultimately settles in
1:00:22
Bitcoin, I believe it's much more sustainable.
1:00:25
So it's like it's it's it's a marathon not a Sprint and so I
1:00:31
think I do see those games coming over and I'll just end
1:00:34
with, I've been a couple of gaming conferences, where we
1:00:38
showcase Games at that, we do Zebedee.
1:00:42
And we've always been like the blockchain gaming room, right?
1:00:45
So we've been at tables with other people making blockchain
1:00:48
games and the lightning games are the only games where people
1:00:52
could just go up play a game like, scan a QR code, and get
1:00:56
the SATs or the other games is like yeah, you have to get this
1:00:58
token but you get on buying a chain but you can also get our
1:01:01
Sushi swap. Then you have to stake it.
1:01:03
It was yeah. So I think once we start they
1:01:06
start to see the lightning Network.
1:01:09
Nothing here about it, you know, I think there's a lot of low
1:01:12
hanging fruit of, just getting lightning, Network known.
1:01:15
And but, yeah, maybe that's what.
1:01:18
That's our job. There's a night.
1:01:20
That's what we got to do. Get the word out there.
1:01:22
Phil, I just show incredibly bullet.
1:01:24
Yeah, you guys have a very bright future in front of you.
1:01:27
I could already see it. I think the sky's the limit
1:01:30
really cool stuff. Absolutely blew my mind today.
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1:02:19
All right guys that was our show before we go.
1:02:21
I want to give a very special shout-out to our awesome guest
1:02:25
definitely go check out Desiree Dickerson you could check out
1:02:29
her Twitter linked down below. She's the CEO of Thunder games.
1:02:34
Download Thunder Bay right now. Earn some Bitcoin you heard that
1:02:38
right play video. Game, you're in Bitcoin.
1:02:40
Absolutely crazy. Another special shout-out to
1:02:43
Christian Moss, you can give them a follow with the link down
1:02:46
below. He is the CEO of zbd.
1:02:50
Co-founder the CEO fucked up. He's the co-founder of zbd I
1:02:54
should have asked first and guys download the plug-in for csw
1:02:58
earn Bitcoin playing CS c yeah that's a Counter-Strike that's
1:03:03
absolutely mind-blowing I'm so I can't believe it but anyways
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