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Full Show Podcast: 27 March 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 1: earlier this show with One Root Love where you Live
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Speaker 1: News Talk, said good morning.
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Speaker 2: In a six half to five, we'll talk helium and
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Speaker 2: MRI scans before six bit of a shortage, there were
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Speaker 2: potential for one. Anyway, Vincent's in the UK for US
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Speaker 2: Auckland's getting a brand new cruise terminal, all going to
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Speaker 2: be open next year, and we'll look at this Tom
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Speaker 2: Phillips Netflix doco as well.
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Speaker 1: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: Right out of the twenty seventh of March Israel's kill
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Speaker 2: Drans Navy guy in charge of the Strait of Hormuz
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Speaker 2: Trumps speaking right now at an event in Washington, and
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Speaker 2: he's still talking about a deal.
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Speaker 3: They are begging to Macaden on me.
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Speaker 4: They're back into Makeadal and anybody that saw what was
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Speaker 4: happening over there would understand why they want to make
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Speaker 4: a deal.
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Speaker 3: But they say, oh, we're.
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Speaker 2: Not talking to them now. They do say that it's
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Speaker 2: their legal right to control this straight Over.
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Speaker 5: The past few days, our American counterparts has the gun
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Speaker 5: sending messages to others, other countries that are our friends.
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Speaker 5: There are messages through others to which we respond with
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Speaker 5: our own position and demands that is not called conversation
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Speaker 5: nor negotiation.
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Speaker 2: Already bag to Trump for sec and he's taking another
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Speaker 2: swipe at NATO.
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Speaker 4: We're disappointed with NATO because NATO has done absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 4: I said twenty five years ago that NATO's a paper tiger,
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Speaker 4: but more importantly that we'll come to their rescue, but
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Speaker 4: they will never come to ours.
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Speaker 2: Rather make rather to the boss of NATO is reluctant.
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Speaker 2: There is still reluctant to criticize comp when.
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Speaker 3: It comes to the commercial person Trump, and what I've
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Speaker 3: been seeing is some frustration with him about the Europeans
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Speaker 3: needing to take time. On Friday, twenty two countries and
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Speaker 3: by now over thirty countries have committed to come together
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Speaker 3: to discuss to what to where an amendment. But it
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Speaker 3: comes to making sure that the sea lanes stay open.
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Speaker 3: And this is exactly also to the request person than Trump.
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Speaker 2: I'll give you the var and the van in a second,
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Speaker 2: the numbers from NATO on how much they've actually managed
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Speaker 2: to increase the spinning buy that's coming in just a second.
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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on a early edition with
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live Us Talks, a'd.
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Speaker 2: Be very good morning, eight minutes after five. So the
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Speaker 2: numbers on NATO are there and managed to increase their
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Speaker 2: spending last year by twenty percent and that's wow, congratulations
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Speaker 2: Pad on the back. This is Europe and Canada increased
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Speaker 2: their spending by twenty percent in the last year. And
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Speaker 2: this is what Rutter's been telling his NATO meeting overnight.
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Speaker 2: And the problem with that sounding good is that it's
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Speaker 2: not actually that great when you look at the fact
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Speaker 2: that they are now only just meeting their two percent
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Speaker 2: of GDP goal that they set back in twenty fourteen.
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Speaker 2: And you'll remember that last year they had another summit
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Speaker 2: and they said we will hit five percent of GDP. Well,
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Speaker 2: if they promised in twenty fourteen to hit two percent,
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Speaker 2: and what are we now twenty twenty six and they've
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Speaker 2: just hit it. Then the five percent they promised us
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Speaker 2: last year, we should probably get in what twenty thirty eight,
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Speaker 2: so we'll look forward to that. By the way, you're
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Speaker 2: getting an update today from Nichola Willis on the fuel
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Speaker 2: alert level system. That'll be fun anyway. Don't worry if
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Speaker 2: you are worried, and I don't think you'll be worried,
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Speaker 2: but if you were worrying, we're not going into one
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Speaker 2: of the alert levels. She's just telling us what the
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Speaker 2: rules are and what will trigger them. Interesting when you
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Speaker 2: look at diesel, A lot of talk this week about
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Speaker 2: diesel and how much we use it and the country
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Speaker 2: runs on it, etc. So Australia far more reliant on
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Speaker 2: diesel and they have massive subset is. In fact, they've
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Speaker 2: got about eleven billion Australian dollars worth of subsidies. Most
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Speaker 2: of it goes to the miners, but you need to
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Speaker 2: get from pretty far out way back in the outback
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Speaker 2: into the city. So they use a lot of diesel
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Speaker 2: in Australia seven point seven barrels per person per year,
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Speaker 2: so that's twelve hundred liters per person just to keep
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Speaker 2: your outback going. In New Zealand we use seven hundred
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Speaker 2: and forty liters per person, so they use way more
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Speaker 2: than us. We're about the same as the US and Germany.
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Speaker 2: So when they talk about a diesel shortage, that's why
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Speaker 2: the Aussies get so freaked out. And in a little
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Speaker 2: update on Air New Zealand for you this morning, because
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Speaker 2: we've told you was it last week? We told you
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Speaker 2: about the flight disruptions and the cancelations that they were doing.
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Speaker 2: So for syth Bar analysts, they've come out with some
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Speaker 2: new numbers for them. They reckon potential pre tax losses
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Speaker 2: across the current year and next year totally half a
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Speaker 2: billion dollars. This is their latest estimate. Andy Balley has
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Speaker 2: done this and Hugh Lockwood both with forsyth Bar very good.
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Speaker 2: So at the moment because of the there's a lag
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Speaker 2: with the fuel contracts, means their cash costs have only
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Speaker 2: modestly gone up to date but likely will material materially
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Speaker 2: start to increase from April. So this is the numbers
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Speaker 2: that they remember they had a forty million dollar pre
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Speaker 2: tax loss sorry after tax loss that they announced recently
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Speaker 2: well for the year to June twenty six. These guys
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Speaker 2: reckon Air New Zealand's underlying after tax loss will hit
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Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty six million. For twenty twenty seven,
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Speaker 2: they reckon that will hit one hundred and forty eight million,
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Speaker 2: and by twenty twenty eight, fingers crossed God, willing on
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Speaker 2: a hope and a prayer, they'll be back to profit.
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Speaker 2: Rail Bridge twelve after five views, talk ZAIDB the Tom
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Speaker 2: Phillips documentary. We're about to talk when we come back
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Speaker 2: from the break, we'll talk to somebody about this. But
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Speaker 2: I do you care? I don't care. Of course, it's
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Speaker 2: going to be on a Netflix. Netflix is where people
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Speaker 2: watch stuff. So does that surprising? And let's not forget
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Speaker 2: I think the thing that people always forget about this.
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Speaker 2: It's not like Tom Phillips was killed. Tom Phillips died
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Speaker 2: and then the documentary suddenly started. They hadn't caught him
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Speaker 2: when the documentary started. So wouldn't we want the publicity?
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Speaker 2: You know, wouldn't we want the attention? Wouldn't police want
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Speaker 2: the attention? Wouldn't the family want the attention? Let's try
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Speaker 2: and find them. Let's try and find the kids. Film
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Speaker 2: after five.
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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on Iheard Radio Early Edition
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Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and One Roof Love Where You Live.
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Speaker 2: News talks had been five fourteen. Good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: The OECD's updated numbers on the UK and the impact
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Speaker 2: of what's happening in the Middle East, and the UK
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Speaker 2: economy is going to suffer the worst in terms of
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Speaker 2: growth in the G twenty so their GDP now expected
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Speaker 2: to grow just zero point seven percent this year. That
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Speaker 2: is down half a percent from one point two percent.
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Speaker 2: This is all to do with the Middle East and
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Speaker 2: their inflation. They were expecting two and a half percent,
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Speaker 2: now going to average four percent according to this latest report.
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Speaker 2: We speak to Vincent out of London.
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Speaker 1: Before quarter to Brian Bridge.
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Speaker 2: The featured documentary about Tom Phillips is going to be
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Speaker 2: on Netflix. Is anyone surprised to hear this? The cops
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Speaker 2: gave the film crew access. Some journals aren't happy. James
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Speaker 2: Hollings is Massive University journalism program lead and former news
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Speaker 2: editor with me this morning. James, Good morning, Good morning, Ryan.
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Speaker 2: How are you great to talk to you? Very well,
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Speaker 2: Thank you. So the new bit in the story is
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Speaker 2: the Netflix link? Does that actually change much? Do you think?
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Speaker 7: I think it does actually and I think there's some
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Speaker 7: concerns that we should have really because we have. I
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Speaker 7: think the people that are making the documentary they're acting
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Speaker 7: in their own sort of interests, which is fine, and
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Speaker 7: they've applied and they've been given permission by the police
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Speaker 7: everything else, and they've taken a punt and they've and
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Speaker 7: they've done very well out of it. But the problem
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Speaker 7: is is that it's going to be broadcast overseas, and
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Speaker 7: this as I guess most journalists known, most of the
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Speaker 7: genders probably know, there's an awful lot of legal tangle
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Speaker 7: around this case and a lot of suppressions around it
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Speaker 7: because of the way that it involves children and anything else,
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Speaker 7: and we don't really know how that's going to play
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Speaker 7: out overseas. I mean, is the he's in a law
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Speaker 7: going to be a respected in the way that it's
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Speaker 7: it's made and as it's broadcast. So, for example, there's
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Speaker 7: a whole of the things that us on journalists weren't
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Speaker 7: able to talk about and say about this case because
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Speaker 7: of the legal suppression around the family and everything else
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Speaker 7: that can apply to an overseas streamer.
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Speaker 2: Do you think, James, do you think they could make
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Speaker 2: two versions of it, one that we get and one
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Speaker 2: that the rest of the world gets, Or are they
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Speaker 2: doing one version that abides by our rules, and you're
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Speaker 2: worried about how other media might react overseas and what
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Speaker 2: digging they might do.
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Speaker 7: Well, we don't know. It hasn't been spelt out. Nothing's
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Speaker 7: been said by the police about that about how they
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Speaker 7: intend to sort of safeguard and make sure it conforms
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Speaker 7: with New Zealand law. So that's one issue. The other
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Speaker 7: issue is that it's a really poor, poor decision by
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Speaker 7: police to do this, I think, and you can see
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Speaker 7: why that they're so embarrassed and that to sit there
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Speaker 7: thoughts so hard not to have it came out that
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Speaker 7: it was Netflix that's doing it, because it's a poor
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Speaker 7: look and it's a bad decision by police to completely
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Speaker 7: sideline all the New Zealand's journalists and broadcasters in favor
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Speaker 7: of an overseas commercial entity, basically sell off what is
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Speaker 7: really privileged public information to an overseas broadcaster will not
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Speaker 7: sell it and give it away.
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Speaker 2: In the fact, what information are you talking about. You're
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Speaker 2: talking about the access that the film crew got, because
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Speaker 2: do we know that New Zealand media asked and were declined?
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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know that, but it will be supposed
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Speaker 7: to heat in theirst.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, James, appreciate your trying this morning.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: James Hollings, Mass University journalism program lead and former news editor.
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Speaker 2: Nine ninety two is the number to text on that
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Speaker 2: your thoughts? Does the fact that it's Netflix and it's
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Speaker 2: international does that sit of sway your view on it?
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Speaker 2: I guess eighteen minutes after five you're on news Talk
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Speaker 2: ZB and we're back in a second. Auckland's getting a
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Speaker 2: new cruise terminal.
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Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's
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Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge and one roof love
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Speaker 1: where you live news talks.
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Speaker 2: I'd be twenty one after five at a update on
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Speaker 2: Trump and his visit to China, which was meant to
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Speaker 2: happen earlier but now being delayed. They have given some
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Speaker 2: dates the fourteenth to the fifteenth of May. Of course,
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Speaker 2: the war's delayed things. So visit is going to take place.
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Speaker 2: She will meet Trump. They will be in Beijing. Our
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Speaker 2: first year as president, nearly ten years. Remember Obami used
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Speaker 2: to love a China trip. I think he had three.
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Speaker 2: I was there for one of them back in twenty fourteen,
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Speaker 2: but I think he had three during his time as
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Speaker 2: president across both terms. Bryan Bridge, Downtown Auckland's getting a
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Speaker 2: new cruise terminal. Port of Auckland's doing it two hundred
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Speaker 2: million bucks. They Reckon opens March twenty twenty seven. Potential
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Speaker 2: to double ship calls to one hundred and sixty a year,
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Speaker 2: could add an extra one hundred thousand terrorists as well.
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Speaker 2: Jackie Lloyd, New Zealand Cruiz Association CEO, with me this morning, Jackie,
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Ryan. So how big is this?
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Speaker 2: How big of a deal is this?
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Speaker 8: This is a game changer, really is for Auckland and
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Speaker 8: also for New Zealand. We're absolutely thrilled that Porter is
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Speaker 8: going through with this work. And from a cruise industry
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Speaker 8: point of view, it really shows that New Zealand and
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Speaker 8: Auckland welcomes and wants cruise lines.
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Speaker 2: What bit changes is it the four and a half
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Speaker 2: thousand plus the big ships.
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Speaker 8: It's a bit of a mix of all. I mean,
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Speaker 8: certainly they can go up to four and a half thousand,
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Speaker 8: but certainly my understanding is smaller ships can still use
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Speaker 8: the space as well. But what it does is it
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Speaker 8: creates a dedicated welcome area to people visiting New Zealand.
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Speaker 8: That are disembarking off ships. Currently they're using temporary locations
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Speaker 8: that have to sort of be built in the morning
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Speaker 8: and taken down in the afternoon. We've got a really
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Speaker 8: a dedicated welcome and a dedicated infrastructure for cruise which
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Speaker 8: is fantastic.
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Speaker 2: Does it look a bit pozzo when they get off
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Speaker 2: at the moment?
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Speaker 8: Well, let's just put it this way. We've been using
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Speaker 8: temporary space for the last twenty years. If you think
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Speaker 8: that where cruise lines coming at Princess Wharf, theyre using
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Speaker 8: the Hilton's conference space that was really supposed to be
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Speaker 8: a temporary effects back in the early two thousands and
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Speaker 8: here in twenty twenty six we're still using it. So
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Speaker 8: to have that dedicated space where MPI, where customs can
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Speaker 8: be based full term, and also to have a welcoming
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Speaker 8: check in area and dedicated space for coaches and buses
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Speaker 8: and also for taxis is real.
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Speaker 2: Important, fantastic. It includes the new Bledislow North Wharf. Where's that?
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Speaker 8: So that from my understanding is about two three across
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Speaker 8: to the east of Queenswarf so still very much in
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Speaker 8: walking distance from downtown Auckland, which is a key part
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Speaker 8: of the positivity I guess of cruise lines coming into Auckland,
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Speaker 8: they can have passengers that walk directly off the ship
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Speaker 8: and straight into town to go shopping, to go to hotels,
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Speaker 8: to go to retail and or so to hospitality.
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Speaker 2: Has part of the project like do we have a
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Speaker 2: problem with attracting tourists who want to come cruising here
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Speaker 2: or has the problem being just our facilities that the
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Speaker 2: companies that run the ships actually don't want to go
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Speaker 2: and have a temporary you know, lift of steers coming
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Speaker 2: to pick them up.
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Speaker 8: Look, it's a little bit of a mix of from
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Speaker 8: an infrastructure point of view and from a welcome point
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Speaker 8: of view. So there is still a really strong interest
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Speaker 8: in cruis is coming to New Zealand. You know, cruise
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Speaker 8: at the moment is around thirty seven million cruise passengers globally.
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Speaker 8: That's up from thirteen million back in twenty ten, so
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Speaker 8: it's a huge growth. But what we have been is
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Speaker 8: probably quite an unwelcoming country for the last wee while
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Speaker 8: we've had changes and costs and increases, we're at changes
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Speaker 8: and regulations and we've not really looked like we wanted
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Speaker 8: to have the cruise industry and cruise passengers in our
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Speaker 8: in our areas, and this dedicated terminal for cruise and
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Speaker 8: a cruise birth in Auckland really really does change that
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Speaker 8: mindset for the cruise sign.
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Speaker 2: Brilliant Jackie. Good to talk to you this morning, as
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Speaker 2: always Jackie Lloyd, New Zealand Cruise Association CEO. So three
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand tourists we get on cruise ships coming into
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Speaker 2: Auckland at the moment they reckon could be up to
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Speaker 2: another one hundred thousand as a result of this, so
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Speaker 2: fantastic good news this morning on a Friday, twenty five
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Speaker 2: percent is now about two percent. It's groundhog day. This
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Speaker 2: of course, you do the recovery begins in earnest there
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Speaker 2: for your average Kiwi. Now. A Harris presidency could arguably
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Speaker 2: who cares. We live here. The question is whether the
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Speaker 2: midterm elections are actually going to change anything for Trump
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Speaker 2: and the and by extension, US, and the answer is
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Speaker 2: basically no. Even if the Republicans lose the midterms, Trump
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Speaker 2: still has the power to start wars and do tariffs.
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Speaker 2: The courts have slapped down some of them, but he's
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Speaker 2: Trump is the commander in chief and doesn't need Congress
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Speaker 2: trade imbalance, there's offensinal crisis. Whatever, you're in business. So
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Speaker 2: for those hoping that November's midterm elections would put Trump
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Speaker 2: He's two from two years and rocking the boat, and
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Speaker 2: minutes after five year on news Talks, here'b Chris Hopkins
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Speaker 2: is in some trouble this morning. This is not to
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Speaker 2: do with his personal life. It's COVID and the vaccines
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Speaker 2: and the mandates and the teenagers. There's a new cabinet
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Speaker 2: paper being unearthed by Derek Ching at the Herald. I'll
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Speaker 2: live to London and we'll talk about MRIs and Helium
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Speaker 2: Good morning twenty four away to the six year old
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Speaker 2: news talks you'd be It is Friday. Vinson is in
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Speaker 2: the UK for us shortly and we'll talk about MRI
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Speaker 2: scans in the link with Helium and Helium getting from
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Speaker 2: out of the Strait from Katta in just a few seconds,
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Speaker 2: I'll bring you across Chippy. But Kate is sent in
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Speaker 2: a lovely text Kate, I don't want me to read
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Speaker 2: this because it sounds a little bit like you're patting
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Speaker 2: yourself on the back. Kate'son wided up and says I'm up,
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Speaker 2: always up early and about work full time and able
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Speaker 2: to obtain all the news and information I need from
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Speaker 2: your show. Thanks and keep up the good work. Have
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Speaker 2: a great day, Kate. I very much appreciate that. Thank
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Speaker 2: you very much. Now, Chris Hipkins, so you know the
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Speaker 2: Royal Commission of Inquiry the second phase of the Royal
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Speaker 2: Commission into COVID, and it found that there was some
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Speaker 2: advice floating around about the risk of my card ditis,
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Speaker 2: which is basically inflaming your heart, the risk to teenagers
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Speaker 2: from taking a second jab, So that was floating around
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Speaker 2: in the Royal Commission's report. But the Royal Commission said
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Speaker 2: that that advice was never delivered to Ministers I Hipkins
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Speaker 2: and Verel, who were the then ministers responsible, never given to
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Speaker 2: them so that they could make a decision about where
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Speaker 2: the teenagers should get the second jab. You know, where
19:09
Speaker 2: the parents should be told, whether the kids should be told, Hey,
19:12
Speaker 2: if you get the second jab, there's actually a bit
19:13
Speaker 2: of a risk of your heart in flaming, which presumably
19:17
Speaker 2: many of them wouldn't have gone for now the hero
19:19
Speaker 2: there is a cabinet paper that exists that the Royal
19:23
Speaker 2: Commission didn't get their hands on, and you think how
19:27
Speaker 2: long did they spend how much money? Anyway, the Herald
19:29
Speaker 2: got it. Derek Ching at the Herald has got his
19:31
Speaker 2: hands on this paper. So what the paper shows you
19:35
Speaker 2: is that there was advice to Hipkins. In fact, there
19:38
Speaker 2: was a cabinet paper in Hipkins's name from March twenty
19:42
Speaker 2: twenty two that included advice on that very question. So
19:48
Speaker 2: Labour's response so far has been basically to say the
19:51
Speaker 2: Royal Commission has found we didn't know, we weren't told, etc.
19:54
Speaker 2: This cabinet paper calls that into question. At the time,
19:58
Speaker 2: thirty thousand kids hadn't had their second JAB and we're
20:02
Speaker 2: subject to mandates to have the JAB. So that is
20:07
Speaker 2: a very big question mark hanging over Chris Hipkins this
20:09
Speaker 2: morning twenty two away from by the way, you can
20:12
Speaker 2: read the full story I don't do, encourage you to
20:13
Speaker 2: do it Zed Herald dot co dot NZ Ryan it'll
20:17
Speaker 2: away from six. Let's go to our reporters, Color and
20:19
Speaker 2: dneedan morning colorm morning, right, what's the latest with full
20:22
Speaker 2: sythe bar Stadium.
20:24
Speaker 10: Well Danedan Venues, which runs the stadiums unveiled a capacity
20:27
Speaker 10: reduction system for the venue which sees them using retractable
20:32
Speaker 10: curtains to transform the stadium into four different sized venues.
20:37
Speaker 10: So the stadium with these curtains will be able to
20:39
Speaker 10: hold events ranging from a three thousand capacity mini area
20:44
Speaker 10: arena it's full sized thirty eight thousand stadium mode. Daneedan
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Speaker 10: Venues CEO is Paul Dawn. He says the city has
20:51
Speaker 10: been missing out on a growing number of mid sized events.
20:54
Speaker 10: He says, currently they've got a bit of a Goldilock situation.
20:57
Speaker 10: Our town hall's too small, the stadiums too. But this
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Speaker 10: new system should fix that. The cost of it hasn't
21:04
Speaker 10: been revealed and for how much ratepayers are contributing. It'll
21:07
Speaker 10: be installed before Christmas.
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Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather got a strong win?
21:11
Speaker 10: Watch here, Gail force northeaster is through the day, occasional rain,
21:15
Speaker 10: a high of twenty all.
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Speaker 2: Right, thanks mate. Claire's and christ Church morning, Claire, good morning.
21:20
Speaker 2: So your new stadium, your big news stadium. You've got
21:22
Speaker 2: some details of the official opening.
21:25
Speaker 11: Yes, officially opening today and I can tell them the
21:28
Speaker 11: tiny voice, I think because everyone's sick of hearing about
21:30
Speaker 11: the new stadium. And maybe they are sick of hearing
21:32
Speaker 11: about it, but I will say Ryan, I would argue
21:34
Speaker 11: they weren't here fifteen years ago when we had the
21:36
Speaker 11: guts of the city ripped out. There is so much
21:39
Speaker 11: to celebrate about the new stadium. The final piece of
21:42
Speaker 11: the puzzle for christ Church is so it feels is
21:44
Speaker 11: coming to fruition who's who of the city, And I
21:48
Speaker 11: understand some other dignitaries from Wellington and the like will
21:51
Speaker 11: be here today to cut the ribbon and officially welcome
21:54
Speaker 11: the new stadium. The construction on this, of course began
21:57
Speaker 11: almost exactly four years ago. This it has to be
22:00
Speaker 11: one of the only pieces of infrastructure that's been delivered
22:03
Speaker 11: on budget and on time. We know, of course, the
22:05
Speaker 11: first major event is Super Rugby super Round on ANZAC weekend.
22:09
Speaker 11: We've got six sixty and Symphony coming in May, Robbie
22:12
Speaker 11: Williams the first International coming in November, and then the
22:15
Speaker 11: food fighters come in January. There are still some final
22:18
Speaker 11: checks to get through in the meantime though, and that's
22:20
Speaker 11: why we've got the links of these warriors watching parties
22:22
Speaker 11: being announced. We've got cleaning that needs to be done.
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Speaker 11: But for now it's very much a sense of celebrations beginning.
22:29
Speaker 2: Now, as you say, a well deserved celebration as well,
22:31
Speaker 2: after a long hard slog. And I noticed that you
22:34
Speaker 2: guys are doing lots of clever advertising as well to us.
22:37
Speaker 2: Auckland is to get us down there. I've just seen
22:39
Speaker 2: it online in the last few days, so they're doing things, well,
22:42
Speaker 2: how's your weather.
22:43
Speaker 11: Well, if anything's going to lure you, it's the fact
22:45
Speaker 11: that Scribe is performing at the first Crusaders match.
22:47
Speaker 2: So there you go, Ryan, just for you.
22:49
Speaker 11: Hey, look, it's a good day for testing the roof
22:52
Speaker 11: on the stadium because it is raining here. We've got
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Speaker 11: northeasterlies and gales about at a high of twenty two.
22:57
Speaker 2: All right, cheers clear morning, Max MECHX Max Max Max.
23:03
Speaker 2: Do you are down down a hole somewhere Mex tell
23:07
Speaker 2: us about the water entity. There's a big tour and
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Speaker 2: pro between wats and little about this too, isn't it.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's really the story of the week here in
23:16
Speaker 12: the Capitol, and we may be getting to the bottom
23:18
Speaker 12: of these massive water bills we're going to start receiving
23:22
Speaker 12: in the Capitol. Councilor Tim Brown has told the Post
23:24
Speaker 12: apparently all five councils, you know, Polydor, the Hut, Wellington,
23:29
Speaker 12: they want to transfer as much of their infrastructure debt
23:32
Speaker 12: as possible directly to Tiaqi.
23:34
Speaker 3: Why it's getting ugly.
23:37
Speaker 12: It hasn't even started yet operating, fixing leaks and it's
23:40
Speaker 12: already underwater. It's also expected to open with higher expenses
23:43
Speaker 12: than revenue. Nowonda Simon Watts, as you say, was left
23:46
Speaker 12: scratching his head this week. He couldn't believe the latest
23:49
Speaker 12: information out of Tiaki. Why we all know, look our infrastructure,
23:54
Speaker 12: the pipes, the leaks, et cetera.
23:55
Speaker 2: It's a bit buggered.
23:56
Speaker 12: But you'd have thought that replacing Wellington Water would be
23:59
Speaker 12: a fresh start. But rather than a new cash injection
24:02
Speaker 12: or reducing that infrastructure debt, it does seem like one
24:05
Speaker 12: point seven billion dollars is going to be unloaded in
24:08
Speaker 12: debt onto Tiaki way and it leaves you very cynical
24:11
Speaker 12: about local government.
24:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I'm asking why how's your weather?
24:16
Speaker 12: Indeed, scattered rains, strong norther least twenty two.
24:19
Speaker 2: Cheers Max Neva's good morning Neva, No one of us.
24:22
Speaker 2: How have Auckland and Upper North Island feed with the
24:25
Speaker 2: bad weather overnight?
24:26
Speaker 13: Yes, well, you know fine, Ada Far North under states
24:29
Speaker 13: of emergency for seven days following all the heavy rain
24:32
Speaker 13: in the Gales. We also know that some people that
24:34
Speaker 13: were evacuated from their homes in Kaitaia due to all
24:37
Speaker 13: the flooding, all the risk of flooding. Emergency services obviously
24:41
Speaker 13: very very busy. They carried out three rescues. This is
24:44
Speaker 13: from people trapped in their cars and floodwaters in Northland
24:47
Speaker 13: also received lots of calls overnight weather related obviously for
24:52
Speaker 13: down trees and lifted roofs right across Auckland, White Cut
24:54
Speaker 13: or Nbay of plenty.
24:56
Speaker 2: All right and things improving today.
24:58
Speaker 13: Yes, that's the good news for Auckland TV. Rain's going
25:00
Speaker 13: to clear, partly cloudy this morning, isolated afternoon showers, still
25:04
Speaker 13: very muggy. Today's high twenty five.
25:07
Speaker 2: Brilliant, Thank you neither. It is seventeen minutes away from six.
25:11
Speaker 2: You know, do you have if you work in an office,
25:13
Speaker 2: do you have plants? I had a look around our
25:15
Speaker 2: office this morning and we have plants everywhere. The Commerce
25:19
Speaker 2: Commission just came out yesterday out of Parliament. Commerce Commission
25:23
Speaker 2: was in the Select Committee and I don't know how
25:25
Speaker 2: it came out, but somehow it came out that their
25:28
Speaker 2: bill for watering the plants and caring for the plants
25:31
Speaker 2: is twenty three thousand dollars a year including gist. So
25:35
Speaker 2: this covers watering, pruning and replacement of plants six floors
25:42
Speaker 2: and Wellington and Auckland twenty four grand a year. Who's
25:46
Speaker 2: making like the millionaires running around offices watering plants? Seriously?
25:51
Speaker 2: The Post had this story and they rang an aw
25:55
Speaker 2: confirm that does this, and they said paying fifteen to
25:57
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars a year for eighteen large pop plants
26:00
Speaker 2: was normal. What on earth? How is it that expensive?
26:05
Speaker 2: And do we actually need plants in the office. I've
26:07
Speaker 2: never once gone in an admired one. I didn't even
26:10
Speaker 2: notice they were the Earth go to the park at lunch.
26:13
Speaker 2: We're in London.
26:13
Speaker 1: Next International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance Peace of
26:18
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business who.
26:21
Speaker 2: Talks to be Lit's hear from Trump talking NATO overnight.
26:25
Speaker 4: Were very disappointed with NATO because NATO has done absolutely nothing.
26:30
Speaker 4: I said twenty five years ago that NATO's a paper tiger,
26:33
Speaker 4: but more importantly that we'll come to their rescue but
26:37
Speaker 4: they will never come to ours.
26:38
Speaker 2: How has that gone down? Vincent meca Any, a UK
26:40
Speaker 2: europe correspondent, joins us this morning. I suppose it's just
26:43
Speaker 2: more of the same from him on NATO, isn't it.
26:46
Speaker 3: Yeah?
26:47
Speaker 9: And he completely does not understand what NATO is. It's
26:49
Speaker 9: a defensive alliance and the only time that NATO has
26:53
Speaker 9: been called on to defend one of its members was
26:55
Speaker 9: after nine to eleven when they did enact the articles
26:59
Speaker 9: that mean the defense of one is the defense of all,
27:02
Speaker 9: and NATO came to the assistance of the United States
27:04
Speaker 9: when it came to Afghanistan. So he is completely wrong
27:07
Speaker 9: in what he's saying. Yes, there have been issues in
27:09
Speaker 9: the past decade. We all had the sort of, you know,
27:12
Speaker 9: the benefit of the Cold War being over and could
27:14
Speaker 9: take down defense spending, and we weren't matching in some
27:18
Speaker 9: countries the two percent requirement that came in in twenty fourteen,
27:21
Speaker 9: but all countries are now surpassing that on their way
27:24
Speaker 9: to roughly five percent each. He doesn't understand that if
27:27
Speaker 9: you do something like this, which is a war of choice,
27:29
Speaker 9: that is not what NATO is there for. And particularly
27:32
Speaker 9: if you don't tell your allies that you're going to
27:34
Speaker 9: do it, they can't prepare and assist you. So there
27:37
Speaker 9: has been a scramble in Europe to try and help
27:39
Speaker 9: allies in the region, the likes of Katar, the UAE,
27:42
Speaker 9: and that's something that France and the UK have been doing.
27:44
Speaker 9: But he's completely wrong to say that NATO should have
27:47
Speaker 9: sent all ships and guns with him when he has
27:49
Speaker 9: clearly no plan into what he's doing.
27:51
Speaker 2: To be fear on the spinding front. Was listening to
27:54
Speaker 2: Rutsa's speech last night as well, and he's saying, you know,
27:57
Speaker 2: we're going to get the fight. We're hoping to get
27:59
Speaker 2: the five percent of We increased twenty percent last year,
28:03
Speaker 2: but they promised to get to two percent back in
28:05
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and they've only just got there now.
28:09
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right, but I mean you have to look
28:10
Speaker 9: at the pressures really. I mean the sort of as
28:13
Speaker 9: I say, the peace dividend that was had was felt,
28:17
Speaker 9: you know across the West. You know, the Cold War
28:19
Speaker 9: was over. It was unthinkable at that point, you know,
28:22
Speaker 9: in a sort of twenty twelve, when you'd have to
28:24
Speaker 9: start taking it up to two percent to get there
28:26
Speaker 9: in time, that there would be you know, war in
28:29
Speaker 9: sort of mainland Europe again. And then after the Saciy Olympics,
28:32
Speaker 9: of course, Russia does start its invasion of Ukraine. That
28:35
Speaker 9: was a sort of game change moment. But I think
28:37
Speaker 9: people in Europe, in some countries didn't realize quick enough
28:41
Speaker 9: how big a threat Russia was starting to pose. And
28:44
Speaker 9: it seems like from you know, what we've seen so
28:46
Speaker 9: far in terms of you know, even Volkswagen coming out
28:49
Speaker 9: now and saying that it might shift one of its
28:50
Speaker 9: plants into making parts for you know, munitions. There is
28:55
Speaker 9: now very much a feeling in Europe that we're on
28:57
Speaker 9: a war footing. But he's completely misappropriating what has been
29:00
Speaker 9: going on with his voluntary war and war of choice
29:04
Speaker 9: in Iran, with the sort of Europeans spending on NATO,
29:07
Speaker 9: which is a defense alliance.
29:09
Speaker 2: Vincent, thank you. Vincent Macaviney a UK europe correspondent ten
29:12
Speaker 2: to six Bryan Breed gouvernment's getting advice in a potential
29:15
Speaker 2: helium shortage. This is used in MRI machines. A quarter
29:19
Speaker 2: of the global supply is imported from Cutter. Obviously that's
29:22
Speaker 2: affected by the Strait but also the strike we told
29:25
Speaker 2: you about last week on the RUSS Lafann facility. That's
29:28
Speaker 2: where it all comes from. They're worried about cancer care. Here.
29:31
Speaker 2: Doctor Debrah Powell, APEX National Secretary with us this morning. Debraah,
29:34
Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. How important is helium for MRI machines.
29:40
Speaker 14: Absolutely essential. It's the substance that cools these machines. They
29:45
Speaker 14: work at a very high temperature, so we have to
29:48
Speaker 14: call them to make sure that they can keep on operating.
29:51
Speaker 2: Do we have a shortage yet? Is there anything wrong
29:53
Speaker 2: with the MRI machines as we speak, or is it
29:55
Speaker 2: we're just looking ahead and hoping it doesn't happen.
29:58
Speaker 14: I think we're just looking ahead. The m machines have
30:02
Speaker 14: been maturing over the years. They used to take a
30:04
Speaker 14: lot of helium, about one and a half liters of
30:08
Speaker 14: liquid helium, but our current machines don't take that sort
30:13
Speaker 14: of level, and they also recycle their own helium. So
30:17
Speaker 14: we really only get into trouble if we have to
30:20
Speaker 14: quench the machine is what we call it. I'd call
30:24
Speaker 14: it purging that if something does go horribly wrong, then
30:28
Speaker 14: the helium is released into the atmosphere. It doesn't happen
30:31
Speaker 14: very often, but if it does, then have to replace
30:35
Speaker 14: the helium in the machine. So that's really the main
30:39
Speaker 14: risk I think that we have here. Most of our
30:42
Speaker 14: machines these days are more modern, so they're not taking
30:44
Speaker 14: as much helium.
30:45
Speaker 7: We've got a.
30:46
Speaker 14: Very good replacements program at the moment for our MRI machines,
30:50
Speaker 14: which is rather fortunate. So no, this is we need
30:54
Speaker 14: to watch and make sure that we have a little
30:58
Speaker 14: bit of spare capacity in the system in case that
31:01
Speaker 14: it's not going to affect cancer treatment or any of
31:03
Speaker 14: the other things that mrs do at this point in time.
31:06
Speaker 2: How good you know. I was looking this morning at
31:08
Speaker 2: the numbers. We have about twenty per million people. Germany
31:12
Speaker 2: has about thirty five per million, the US thirty seven.
31:14
Speaker 2: Japan has sixty MRI machines per million. Does it make
31:18
Speaker 2: a big difference to cancer care? Does it make a
31:21
Speaker 2: big difference to you know, survivability all that stuff?
31:24
Speaker 7: Oh?
31:25
Speaker 14: Absolutely, And it's not just cancer. These machines are used
31:29
Speaker 14: for a wide range of diagnosis and then monitoring of disease, cardiac, neurological,
31:35
Speaker 14: all sorts of things. So yeah, it makes a big
31:39
Speaker 14: impact on how patients generally flow through the system. But
31:43
Speaker 14: cancer care in terms of diagnosis, how far is the
31:46
Speaker 14: cancer spread so we can actually get all of It's
31:49
Speaker 14: not just the main primary. All of these things mrs
31:53
Speaker 14: are absolutely critical to best treatment for our patients. They're
31:56
Speaker 14: fabulous machines.
31:57
Speaker 2: Not the debral pow Apex National Secretary. It is eight
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Speaker 2: to six News Talks b Mike Next.
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Speaker 1: The First Word on the News of the Day Early
32:06
Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and One Roote Love Where.
32:10
Speaker 2: You Live News Talks that'd be five to six. Is
32:13
Speaker 2: not all bad news out there. David seam Whisday was
32:15
Speaker 2: talking about Alberta in Canada. They reckon they've wiped out
32:18
Speaker 2: their entire provincial budget deficit in the last two weeks
32:21
Speaker 2: because of the price of world because they do pump
32:23
Speaker 2: a lot of it out of there, don't they? Five
32:25
Speaker 2: to six and Mic is with us on Friday morning morning.
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Speaker 15: Mike, Greetings, Ryan, Netflix and the Tom Keeley.
32:32
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, good. I couldn't give them money, but just generally,
32:36
Speaker 2: the whole story was before he was caught. So wouldn't
32:40
Speaker 2: you want police to go out there and try and
32:43
Speaker 2: get publicity, to try and raise whatever alarm they could
32:47
Speaker 2: to get people interested, to try and get the things
32:49
Speaker 2: sold and get the kids found. Didn't they do that? Yes,
32:52
Speaker 2: but they've been criticized for it, which I don't think
32:54
Speaker 2: is fair.
32:55
Speaker 15: People criticize people for everything. I just can't believe. It's
32:58
Speaker 15: a story in a will where there's a war and
33:00
Speaker 15: we might run out of petrol and we don't have
33:03
Speaker 15: any helium and the ceramics industry.
33:04
Speaker 2: But now he's closed down. His sounding alarmis no, no, no, no.
33:09
Speaker 15: Big story this morning is of course, Hipkins. Yeah, I know,
33:12
Speaker 15: and that's is there a resignation?
33:15
Speaker 2: Do you know last night? Because I had heard about
33:17
Speaker 2: the story last night and I was thinking, do you
33:20
Speaker 2: have to resign? The thing is he'll come out and say, well,
33:24
Speaker 2: he hasn't specifically addressed it in his response to the
33:27
Speaker 2: Herald No, which is always telling not exactly. But we
33:31
Speaker 2: asked him to come, I canst him come on my
33:32
Speaker 2: show today and he said, no, probably doesn't like you. Well,
33:37
Speaker 2: I'm not terribly mean to him.
33:38
Speaker 15: Here's the problem.
33:39
Speaker 2: So did he lie?
33:41
Speaker 15: Is the is the critical part, isn't it? So what
33:43
Speaker 15: we for people who have not followed this is that
33:45
Speaker 15: in the commission I mean, how useless of that? What
33:48
Speaker 15: a waste of time they are? So anyway, so he
33:51
Speaker 15: hid behind that? Or did he genuinely not know when
33:54
Speaker 15: you present the evidence and go there it was, mate?
33:57
Speaker 15: Does he then go I never saw it, I don't
33:59
Speaker 15: remember it. Or does he go, maya culpat if he
34:02
Speaker 15: sees what if he's been lying, I would have thought
34:03
Speaker 15: that's a risen name.
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. But the language they used in the
34:07
Speaker 2: commissioners don't recall yeah, exactly exactly the best and of
34:11
Speaker 2: course they.
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Speaker 15: Just of course do remit. They never fronted the commissioner.
34:14
Speaker 15: They wrote by a lawyers.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, more on this this morning, very good Mike with
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Speaker 2: your next can joy your Friday?
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