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Colts Fire Sale Coming?! Taylor, Sauce & Buckner Trade Talk + Lamar Update | Tent Talk · Banter with the Boys

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Welcome back to Banter with the Boys. Gridiron
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updates. This is our tent talk. Boom. Episode.
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You already know. I am Smelty, of course. And
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alongside me, our co -host, Roberto. But now
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I got to get it in unison. I'm almost there.
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You're working on it. Only one lasso that time.
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That's right. And then to my Larry, old Jake.
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Hi. Up? Yeah. He's here. Kev behind the camera
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getting everything done for us as always. Let's
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just rip this thing off right away here. Excuse
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me, I was struggling with that. First off, Smeltsy's
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down right now. A little chest congestion. He's
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questionable to return. Upper body injury. He's
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going to fight through here. Jalen Hurts, done
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for the season with a blood clot. That's more
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than one multiple. Yeah, that's crazy. So in
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the same spot, you have injuries. It's the same
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thing, really. No, I'm just kidding. No, truly.
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We hope Jalen hurts, you know, heals up quick.
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And that's very serious thing. Not cool. Not
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cool. And, you know, obviously questions arising
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right away from it. If this was known before
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and if he was allowed to play with it and all
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this stuff coming out. Crap, there is even a
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crazy fake -ass story that Kev was putting out
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there this morning, but it's almost legit for
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a minute. You didn't see that in the group chat?
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Oh, I think I did. They kept him up overnight,
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worried about him going to sleep, and then he
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still played in the London game? No, but that's
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wild. For safety, yeah. Which, if that story
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is true, that's why they play. I really hope
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that's not true. I did not, for some reason,
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I did not hear any of that. I was talking about
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him suing. Suing the Eagles organization. Wow,
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if he was. okay you can't sleep because man yeah
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that's not yeah so that's not good okay well
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we get all the information those are sources
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sources per sources yep yep flock doc uh per
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sources yep uh all right let's keep rolling down
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the list here davante adams that was a big one
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uh we touched on him in the uh recap episode
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but uh rams receiver down with a torn hamstring
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out estimated six to ten weeks massive loss for
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the rams offense which is Already not necessarily
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been looking the best, but he's been a big factor.
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He's been a huge factor. He's been their big
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goal line touchdown. Red zone guy, yeah. It gets
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worse for the Rams. Puna Ford, their D -tackle,
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torn triceps, expected to miss the entire season.
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Colby Turner, the other D -tackle, his groin,
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he's expected to miss four to six weeks. Just
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bad to worse for the Rams every single week right
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now, whether it's the game or injuries. Preseason
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Vegas favorites. Yeah. They were a pretty favorite
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here, too, on the boys, I reckon. Yeah. We really
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talked up that defense, and they made the big
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trade. Things were just tracking for the Rams
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to have an outstanding year. But season's not
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over, and you never know, of course. But that
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doesn't help things if you're the Rams. Let's
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see. Did you have something? No. Oh, no. Right
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on. You were just. sign yeah yeah right um sauce
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uh the colts corner uh he left week six with
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a calf injury timetable uncertain however wait
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till we get to the news portion of this i do
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believe sauce could be on the block and on the
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way out of indianapolis after some big news there's
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a lot of news actually for indianapolis this
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week but we'll get to it um vlad mcconkey uh
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concussion he's in protocol We know that that
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could be next week or five weeks from now, so
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never know there. Rashad Bateman is ruled out
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during week six. Flock, Doc, do we see Rashad
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Bateman in week seven for the Baltimore Ravens?
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No. No good? No, we don't see him. What about
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our friend? Lamar? Yeah. The word on the street
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right now for Lamar is that he could potentially
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practice this week. Yes. However, he's still
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being considered day -to -day. And with him not
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playing last week? A lot of us were really optimistic
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last week based on how he was at least walking
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around that it felt like, okay, he's going to
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play even though he didn't really practice. Hopefully,
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he actually practices in some kind of limited
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capacity this week because it's going to be a
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division game against the Bengals. Kind of want
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to have... All your weapons. Your whole arsenal.
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Yeah. Locked and loaded. So you're not officially
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saying, take the extra week this week for Lamar.
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You'd like to see him in there? Yeah. Right on.
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They need it. Don't take the extra week. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, I was expecting him to play last
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week, and then he ended up taking the extra week.
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If you've got a personal message, just look right
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into that camera. Lamar, practice. There it is.
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There it is. Lamar practice. From our own Allen
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Iverson. That's it. That's right. Excuse me,
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G. Willikers. Let's see. A couple more concussions.
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Reed Blankenship, Texans safety. He left the
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game against Jacksonville. He's in concussion
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protocol. Nolan Smith. That one actually looked
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kind of bad, too. The Eagles edge rusher. He's
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in concussion protocol as well. I don't know.
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Another Bryce Young. I talked him up last episode
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for whatever reason. As a good moral person,
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whatever you believe in, when Nolan Smith went
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down, you could see Bryce Young kind of off to
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the side praying for him immediately before he
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even walked off the field. So, I don't know.
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Just, again, good moral thing from old Bryce
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Young there. And team – no, they were not teammates.
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I just sinned right there. Anyway, Devontae Turpin.
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Those two were in college. No, that's – anyway,
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sorry. Kavante Turpin. Rib cartilage. He did
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not return. X -rays are negative. So we'll see.
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We'll see his timetable. Let's see. Blake Group.
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Rams kicker. Torn ACL placed on IR. No good.
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No good. No good. What else you guys got for
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injuries? You got any more? Doc's always got
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a list or two. Jury's still out on Cam Juergens.
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Oh, that's right, Juergen. Yeah. Then, I don't
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know, Voorhees for the Ravens again, still kind
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of eh. We'll see. Oh, Vikes. Do they get Jordan
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Mason back? I think we get Mason back. It's the
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word on the street. Sources are saying. Yeah,
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I just thought about that. That would actually
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be great for the Vikings. Aaron Jones has just
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been carrying the team on his back right now,
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other than the defense. So offensively, yes.
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So it would just be good to get him some help.
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But don't worry. We got some trade speculation
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coming up in the news, and I got some ideas for
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the old Minnesota Vikings on both sides of the
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ball. Yeah. Well, you got any injuries? I just
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had Romeo Dobbs kind of on the fantasy aspect
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on the list. And then another running back out
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of Denver. Batty got hurt, too. So, pick up Coleman.
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If he's available, Chardon Charbonnet is possibly
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coming back. So, if he's available. And Weird
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with... scataboo right now in new york and what's
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going on with zero carries last week yeah tyrone
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tracy jr so if he's available i would pick him
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up and then omar cooper jr showing some flashes
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the guy from in first rounder from indiana that
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got pretty much undrafted one of the craziest
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things i've seen in fantasy football this year
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a first rounder uh not getting drafted at all
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and then What about Lane, Jacoby Lane? Is he
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possibly coming back on that? He played this
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past week. He actually looked really sharp. All
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right, so he might be available in some leagues,
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too. Yeah, with Bateman going on the shelf. And
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Lane looked pretty good, too. All right, so check
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your rosters for that. And then Mikael Washington,
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Ricky out of Dolphins, too. I mean, if he's still
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available, he's been showing some flashes. Was
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that just a rob? Fantasy Minute right there?
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I loved it. Just snuck it in there. There was
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one injury we forgot to talk about, fellas. Mike
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McCarthy went down with a foot injury near the
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end of the second half. Oh, not a pickleball
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injury? This is first half. Okay, this is end
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of the second half, but this is AI slap right
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here. Kev, Europe, was the one that brought up
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this injury that I totally forgot about. But,
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yeah, Mike McCarthy, foot and ankle injury. Let's
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see. Nothing major. End of the first half, he
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was stepped on. Right on. Yeah, yeah, spent the
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whole halftime in the blue tent. But he is expected
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to travel with the team. So, no downtime from
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Mike McCarthy, it sounds like. So, good news.
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Well, I mean, with Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback,
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too, it's like, do you? Do you really need your
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head coach calling plays? Probably not. Probably
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not. When he takes so long to get them in. Anyway,
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let's see. Top of the news probably here. Colts
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GM Chris Ballard is fired. He gone. And is this
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the beginning of the end for the Colts? You know,
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if they lose any more games, is it they just
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start selling off at this point? Yep. I mean,
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if they do, it'd be perfectly a good time to
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do it before the Vikings game. I mean, yes. So
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the guys on that list, clearly, you know, DeForest,
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Buckner, Taylor, you know, do any of those. I
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mean, what are they waiting for? What are the
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Colts waiting for at this point? They just fired
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the GM. So is that the next step after firing
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a GM is not having a great season to start to
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cut some of the. higher -priced vets to attempt
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to get picks for the new GM and do all, you know
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what I mean? They shouldn't go into a full rebuild
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or anything crazy, but is that the next step
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after you fire the GM? Are we going to see some
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of these? They're in second place right now.
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I know, but I think some of these big -name players
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could get moved from Indianapolis. I'm telling
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you. I just don't think it's Major League Baseball.
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I don't think people move as quickly as everyone.
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I don't know if you dump. I was just looking
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at Jonathan Taylor. He's only 27. For some reason,
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I thought he was 29. He's still on the list.
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I don't know. Who else are they getting? A team
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like Denver. Do you think they try to go all
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in and try to get a Jonathan Taylor to fix that
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missing piece? They'd have to work out some kind.
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They'd have to be giving up. a one yeah for like
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jonathan taylor maybe for like deforest buckner
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um i don't maybe do like a like a second well
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i think a second is a little heavy what what
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i mean where do you think taylor what's taylor's
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he's one of the top value to you yeah i don't
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know second and fourth probably in the same year
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second and fourth And then you're probably going
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to be end of the second and end of the fourth.
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So Minnesota right now was like, hey, we want
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to engage in JT talk. Yeah. Do you give up your
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do you give up your twenty twenty seven first
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round with the expectation that is going to be
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a late first round pick? No. No? Yeah, and the
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money wouldn't work with the other thing I'm
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thinking of. It's essentially a second. I'd be
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like bundle him and Sauce for like a couple big
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picks, so like two firsts or something, or a
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first and a second. They gave up a one for Sauce,
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so they're going to likely expect a one in return
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for Sauce. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Okay, so between
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their two defensive players, Buckner or Sauce,
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who gets traded first? Buckner, because he's
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going to be cheaper. Yeah. Right on. Right on.
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But anyway, I don't know. I just feel like there
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could be some more shaking up yet to happen.
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Sure. And we're seeing it more every year. We've
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seen these trades for these bigger all -star
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players. Traditionally in the NFL, you didn't
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see a ton of it, especially during season. You'd
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see more off -season, if anything. But, yeah,
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I'm starting to see these GMs be a little more
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aggressive and not valuing those future picks.
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And that's where the NBA is like that. How far
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out can you... The salary cap is just so much
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different, I think, in the NFL. You've got to
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really start playing with numbers to move these
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big numbers. When everything turns into a freaking
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roster bonus or something, they can hide it and
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make it happen. You've got to almost restructure.
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A lot of things. It's more than just one. How
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many years out can you trade a... Three. Three.
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Okay. There were conversations this past offseason
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about increasing that number from three to five,
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I think. Yay, nay on that for you, Doc. I don't
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know. Does it make the league better? No. I don't
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know. I think you'd see. The worst teams continue
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to get worse, probably, because they're going
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to be like, oh, my God, we could trade all these
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picks and grab LeBron Dime and then be mint.
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You know what I mean? I don't know. And then
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if that backfires, you just set yourself back
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possibly five years. But you also see it work.
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Look at the Rams. They have an F them picks mentality,
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and it works year after year after year. They're
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still competitive. Yeah. And that's what you
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want out of your team. Band -aided together,
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yeah. Anyway, keeping the theme of trades here,
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would you rather see the Vikings trade for a
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– if they have some money after J .J. Mack a
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little bit and then they had money prior, they
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had like 18 mil just chilling all season. So
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do they – Go after a running back to help in
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that backfield? I vote no because Mason's coming
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back. How much are we going to get? I don't know.
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Or Aaron Jones goes down and then you're messed
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up back there. Or do you try to go get, like,
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a safety or something? I mean, secondary is always
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going to be helped because it's such a long NFL
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season. I guarantee you that someone's going
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to get banged up back there. And then you start
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playing with, you know, your practice -wad guys.
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And against NFL quarterbacks, that's where they
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can expose those guys the most. But I would say
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second on that list is just since Jackson, our
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left guard, is out for a year, even a simple
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fourth -round trade for some depth is something
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I'd like him to see. Go get Ezra Cleveland. I'll
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bring him back. Bradbury, you know, what do you
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want? Ed McDaniel? That's right. Hey, yes, that
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would be great. If you could, again, if the numbers
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worked out. Winfield or Buda Baker, who would
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be the better fit in Minnesota for Flores? I
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mean, I prefer a corner. They're used slightly
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different, but... I mean, it's a ton of Theo
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Jackson. They're mixing it up. They're mixing
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between Josh Metellus, Theo Jackson, and Harrison
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Smith. They're kind of running a three -combo
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thing there. And they rotate so crazy and different
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that... And they're just kind of all changing
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positions. So just another definitely a slot
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corner or another outside corner, too. Because,
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I mean, even though Rodgers and Murphy have been
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playing really nice, but if one of those guys
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go down. Yeah, how sustainable does that feel
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right now? I mean, that changes that defense,
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I think, a lot because they have so much trust
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right now with those two on the outside. Yeah,
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don't get me wrong. I don't want to. add something,
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and then blow everything up, and the defense
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is playing outstanding right now. But I'm just
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saying. But you'd go corner. But not like a true
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number one, unless one of those get hurt. Well,
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what if you could go get sauce? Would you take
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them? No. No. I mean, I would. I'd love them
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to be on the Vikings, but why? We have Rodgers,
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and then we're going to do it with Murphy. But
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you just said corner, so I was just throwing
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a corner at you. But if you do that, then one
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of them's got to play nickel. Who do you trust
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most as your nickelback? Yeah, but can one of
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them, like Rodgers, also maybe start playing
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a little safety, a little mess around back there
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with his speed a little bit? You know what I
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mean? I don't know. Not for the cost it would
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take to get sauce. Sure, right. You would probably
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be better off getting Buda Baker to play, like,
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play down. Hybrid, yeah. You know, take some
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snaps away from 3 -0 Jackson, if anything. Well,
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well. As the trade deadline nears, I think it's
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three weeks from tomorrow, anything you're looking
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for the Ravens to do yet, or do you think they're
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done? Juergens was the big one. Probably still
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looking to get some offensive line depth. They're
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still banged up. We don't know right now when
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Juergens is going to start playing. Again, hopefully
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it's this week. We were hoping it was last week.
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Yeah, offensive line depth, probably also looking
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at depth at corner. The front four on the defensive
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side, they're working well together right now.
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They're playing strong. So I think generally
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speaking, we're probably not going to see any
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real big or significant moves, and it's just
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going to be more like depth pieces. Right on.
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And we've still got a couple weeks out, right?
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Three weeks out before the deadline? Yeah. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. But conversations are starting. Obviously,
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things will continue to change as injuries happen.
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Like, John Jennings is hot right now. That news
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is hot that he could get traded. It'd be a low
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-level trade, but that he could go back to San
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Fran, who could use a receiver and all this other
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crap or whatever. Take one of their corners.
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Yeah, yeah. There you go. Hey, actually, that
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would work. Get some corner depth out of that.
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What was the thing I was going to say bringing
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up in this? Oh, Justin Herbert, you said you
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all were done with the trade talk for a minute,
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unless you got something else. Herbert, you looked
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into him on all 22. His feet, he's just very
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inconsistent. He had so many, just in this last
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game watching, he had so many balls batted at
19:44
the... at the line of scrimmage, you know, on
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screen passes or just different arm angles. I
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don't know if that's just the tape on them, but
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really the defense, you know, and his accuracy
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was a little suspect, I thought, just watching
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a little bit through it. Their lack of running
20:01
game really hurts that offense, too. Do you think
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he's a need -to -change -your -scenery kind of
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guy and would maybe spark back up a little bit?
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You give him a number one receiver, I think he's
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a different player. Yeah. Like they're missing
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a wide receiver. So is that what I should shift
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my focus for for Vikings 2027? Is what? Is Herbert?
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No. I don't think. No. I'm throwing out all these
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horrible hypotheticals. No. No. Yeah. It's not.
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It's not all on Herbert. No, it's not. He's still
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also learning a new offense, which I don't think
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fits him in any way, shape or form. So this is
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this Mike McDaniel. That's the other thing. How
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much longer is that? He's on all stuff. You know,
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a lot of screens, a lot of bubbles, a lot of
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misdirection stuff. And also, to your point,
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the offensive line isn't doing him any favors.
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He's the most hit quarterback right now. And
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they're one of the most injured old lines, probably,
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of the season, along with your boys, honestly.
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I mean, you can't dump him. I mean, he still
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is too young. 100%. Let's see. Let me think.
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Oh, the only other piece of news I had. Bill's
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safety, C .J. Gardner -Johnson, suspended one
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game following his week six ejection. That's
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it. Good. A little Hawk Tuohy. Yeah, that's right.
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I think that was the penalty, wasn't it? Yeah,
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yep. Yep, for spitting on a player. Classic.
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Who did that last year? That was Dak. Jalen Carter.
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He did it on Dak, right? Towards Dak. Allegedly,
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Dak did it first, and then he did it back. Because
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Dak was just spitting at the ground, though.
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He's like, ah, I spit on the ground. No, I think
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he tried to spit at him, and just like his balls,
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it just went. What? Yeah, that came out wrong.
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That's not what I. Throwing balls, guys. I should
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probably stop saying balls, I guess. Unbelievable.
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That's not. Oh, my God. Yeah. I can see how that
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came out. That didn't sound good either. All
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right. We got to just end the show deeper. We
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got to just end the show. Got to learn to put
22:02
the shovel down. Jake. Yo. Yep. Roberto. Yep.
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