Latest / Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports / Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 3-6-25

Transcript

Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 3-6-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: The BACKUS and Shaker Studios. Their passion is Justice Kicks
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: f MHD one Proofield ten for Poulder.
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: This is coach like Sanford.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: This is Alex tryan Emmy Morning Sprint coming up at ten.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: This is Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five, Moser, Lombardy
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: and Kine. John Legwald is our Broncos insider.
• 0:25
  Speaker 3: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five Pro Football the Insider
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: I've covered Chef Legwall.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: His appearances are always must listen radio.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: We learn a lot, brought to you by the International
• 0:37
  Speaker 3: Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Start with a job and for the career. Iv e
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: W Local sixty eight.
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: It's Leggy Web Yep yep on Altitude Sports Radio ninety
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: two five.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this. One of our people on twitch says,
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: kill us with your facts. Mister Legwald. Oh, we can't
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: wait for this time of the week. Jeff Lagwald joins
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: us other Ramas Law hotline car accident. You need Ramos Law,
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: medical doctor and attorney ramas Law dot com. Leggy, I
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: have a host of things to discuss with you today,
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: but I want to start here. Every wide receiver seems
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: to be wanting a trade a whole bunch of wide
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: receivers now on the market that previously we didn't think
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: would be Do you think the Broncos will be actively
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: involved in any discussions for these guys, whether it's Davante Adams,
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: whether it's DK Metcalf, whether it's whoever that's on the
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: market right now, will they be actively involved?
• 1:40
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, actively, I bet they'll kick the tires.
• 1:45
  Speaker 4: I bet they will, whether they ever admit it or not.
• 1:47
  Speaker 4: They'll ask around. I mean Metcalf fits the physical profile
• 1:52
  Speaker 4: Sean Haydon Watson a receiver, so I mean he likes
• 1:57
  Speaker 4: the bigger receivers. So like the guys, yeah, at least
• 2:05
  Speaker 4: internally talk about. But you you're seeing now when you
• 2:10
  Speaker 4: ask gms.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: About receivers, they just roll their eyes.
• 2:14
  Speaker 4: I mean they they want the ball more, they want
• 2:17
  Speaker 4: the ball better, they want more money, they want to trade.
• 2:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, they always seem to want something as a
• 2:24
  Speaker 4: position group, and I think I guess in my time
• 2:28
  Speaker 4: covering the league, I've done more, far more frustrated wide
• 2:32
  Speaker 4: receiver stories than I have any other position combined.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 2:37
  Speaker 4: You know, you don't even hear quarterbacks have this much
• 2:41
  Speaker 4: angst publicly as receivers do. And and you know again,
• 2:46
  Speaker 4: it's it's what you think the value is. Like they
• 2:49
  Speaker 4: le Broncos had no interest in the Deebo Samuel sweepstake,
• 2:53
  Speaker 4: So I guess if you do the math from there,
• 2:57
  Speaker 4: it would seem to have a pretty narrow view of
• 2:59
  Speaker 4: what they would be intrigued by in the veteran receiver market.
• 3:02
  Speaker 4: And I think health plays a big part. How healthy
• 3:06
  Speaker 4: are you? How much are you going to be on
• 3:08
  Speaker 4: the field.
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: Well, to me, I don't think anybody wanted Debo. I
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: mean if he goes for a fifth you know, I mean, look,
• 3:18
  Speaker 3: wide receivers, crack me up, Jeff. They are divas. You know,
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of them are they fight? You know, they
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: they complain that they're just they're hard to deal with. Man,
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just so you got to get
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: the right guy. Does that come through free agency? Does
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: that come through the draft? That'd rather have a homegrown guy,
• 3:39
  Speaker 3: you know, go out and pick one off the vine
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: that you can make into the guy that you want
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: to have to be honest.
• 3:45
  Speaker 4: With you, Yeah, And I you know, I think right
• 3:48
  Speaker 4: now they're actively trying to figure out a way to
• 3:50
  Speaker 4: get Courtland Sutton squared away. Too, So what would be
• 3:56
  Speaker 4: what would adding a free agent wide receiver due to that?
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, doesn't upset you know? And
• 4:02
  Speaker 4: Peyton talks a lot about makeup in chemistry and your
• 4:07
  Speaker 4: and your locker room and all of those things.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: What's to do in your locker room if if you sign.
• 4:13
  Speaker 4: One of these guys, no matter how much they may
• 4:15
  Speaker 4: help you, for what you wouldn't give Courtland Sutton? You
• 4:19
  Speaker 4: know that type of thing. I think that is a consideration.
• 4:22
  Speaker 4: How big it consideration?
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: You know? I would I don't know that.
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: Jeff, we were talking a little bit earlier about Zach
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: Allen going into last year of his deal and but
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: he knows going.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: To need to be paid as well.
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: Could you again reiterate what you think those guys should bring,
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: because Brett wants to pay Zach Allen is the third
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: highest paid in.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: Defensive whatever it takes.
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: And you know what, I don't disagree with him, because
• 4:45
  Speaker 3: he's a peck of a cog piece. But could you
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: also blend that into how much hay you have to
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: make when you have a quarterback who's on a rookie
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: deal or not being paid forty million dollars a.
• 4:56
  Speaker 4: Year well, this is your This is any team's best
• 5:00
  Speaker 4: window to compete for it all is.
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: When you have your.
• 5:05
  Speaker 4: Established starter, who you think is your long term solution
• 5:09
  Speaker 4: on his rookie deal.
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: Now you know, teams have gone on to have.
• 5:13
  Speaker 4: Great success, you know, when the quarterbacks and the second deal,
• 5:16
  Speaker 4: the Patriots, the Chiefs, you know, even the Bills to
• 5:20
  Speaker 4: a certain extent.
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: Now you know with Allen on his but your.
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: Best window to do big things, you know quickly as
• 5:30
  Speaker 4: you can, is when you're when that quarterback's on the
• 5:33
  Speaker 4: rookie deal. So the Broncos clock has four years left,
• 5:37
  Speaker 4: you know, Max on bo Nicks's rookie deal.
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: So that's that's the window. And you know it's intriguing.
• 5:45
  Speaker 4: Because I mean, they were already facing it anyway, but
• 5:48
  Speaker 4: you know, Benito and Allen would come up at the
• 5:51
  Speaker 4: same time for free agency after this season, the twenty
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: five season, so that they're facing this all the way
• 6:00
  Speaker 4: through twenty twenty five. And they knew that before. And look,
• 6:06
  Speaker 4: the season Zach Allen had was a bargain for the
• 6:10
  Speaker 4: for the Broncos. Of course, if you're the player and
• 6:12
  Speaker 4: as representatives, you're gonna want a little something more. I mean,
• 6:17
  Speaker 4: than the metrics are you You were one of the
• 6:19
  Speaker 4: best players at your position in the league. You were
• 6:22
  Speaker 4: named an All Pro and your peers named your Pro
• 6:26
  Speaker 4: Bowl selection. So yeah, you're you're worth whatever you can get.
• 6:31
  Speaker 4: Uh and you showed what kind of player you are
• 6:35
  Speaker 4: and that you might still be an ascending player, which
• 6:38
  Speaker 4: is a which is always a coveted thing. So that
• 6:41
  Speaker 4: they they've got big decisions to make. You know, does
• 6:46
  Speaker 4: one of them get the franchise tag a year from now? Maybe,
• 6:49
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe that's a short term solution, but it
• 6:52
  Speaker 4: will be two of the biggest questions they have financially
• 6:56
  Speaker 4: until they make a decision who's getting the money and
• 7:00
  Speaker 4: how much.
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: So we are about a week away from free agency
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: opening up a little less than a week. Two years ago,
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: the Broncos spent a bunch of money. We're a huge
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: player early in free agency with McGlinchey and Ben Powers
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: and Zach Allen. Last year not really signed Brandon Jones
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: and that was maybe the only notable free agent signing.
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: What does this year look like. Do you think their
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: players early or is this gonna feel a lot more
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: like last year.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: I think it could be a mix.
• 7:30
  Speaker 4: I think they could be players if they think it's
• 7:32
  Speaker 4: the right guy at the right price. I don't know
• 7:35
  Speaker 4: that they'll, you know, like they gave McGlinchey more than
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: anyone else would have. They probably gave Ben Powers more
• 7:43
  Speaker 4: than everybody else would have. I don't know that they'll
• 7:45
  Speaker 4: be that kind of player where they just put the
• 7:48
  Speaker 4: biggest number out there and go get it. I think
• 7:51
  Speaker 4: they'll be more we think this guy fits and here's
• 7:55
  Speaker 4: a pretty big number to go with it, and you're
• 7:58
  Speaker 4: hoping that the player thinks it's the best spot for him.
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: But I think it will be a mixture of both.
• 8:05
  Speaker 4: I don't think they will take nothing but big swings.
• 8:08
  Speaker 4: Their issue is and you know, it's stuff we don't
• 8:12
  Speaker 4: talk about or you know, if you're a fan, you
• 8:14
  Speaker 4: don't just bring the players.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: You know, don't tell me the rest of this stuff.
• 8:18
  Speaker 4: But they've added voidable years to almost every deal they can,
• 8:23
  Speaker 4: so their wiggle room even though their cap room is pretty.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: Good, their real life wiggle room is not.
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: So they've still got to be They got to get
• 8:34
  Speaker 4: them right again, like last year. They got to get
• 8:37
  Speaker 4: them all right because this bill will come, do you
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: know two three years from now, when they're trying to
• 8:44
  Speaker 4: figure out what they're gonna do with Benito when they're
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: trying to figure out what you're gonna do with Allen,
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: you know, and bo Nix's nine figure deal will be
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: waiting out there if he keeps playing like he did
• 8:56
  Speaker 4: as a rookie.
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: Just your boy Bred over here raised a very good
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: question yesterday. I thought it was fantastic and I want
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: you to maybe raise it to some gms around the
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: league or people you know. But it was a really
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: smart question about running backs, Brett.
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: Could you please reiterate, Well, I.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: Was wondering, are we just are we in a running
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: back renaissance? Has the cyclical nature of how we view
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: that position come back around to they're important enough to
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: spend high end first round capital on again. And the
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: way I posed the question was this, if I told
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: you that I just I took Barry Sanders into a DeLorean. Okay,
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: so now you have twenty one year old Barry Sanders.
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: You know who he is, you know what kind of
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: career he has, that he's a Hall of famer. And
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: I implemented that guy in the draft where the the
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: gms across the league knew exactly the player they were getting,
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: was a Hall of Famer for ten years. Would he
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: be the first overall draft pick.
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: This year?
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: This year?
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: This year, he would because there's no QB. Okay, yeah,
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: well no consensus QB. Now you know, cam Ward is
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: closing in on the majority, but not like a consensus
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: like Joe Burrow at number one or Peyton Manning at
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: number one.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: Not like that.
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: But you know, I think there would still be the
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: outlier GM or two who would fight you and say
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: value and a lot of that. But I was saying
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: years ago, it's time for teams to start despite the
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: fact no one calls you a genius for running the ball,
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: that with all these nickel defenses, it was the way
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: to go on offense. It's a matchup you can win
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: a lot. And I think that's what's happened. I think
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: people are finally with the quarterbacks more involved in the
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: running game. I think people have finally decided why keep
• 10:43
  Speaker 4: As much as people want you to throw the ball
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: analytically and even you know, visually people want you to
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: throw the ball all the time, the play right now
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: in today's league is to run it.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: And this year was a good a good indicator of that.
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: Does work if you have the right people doing it,
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: and you know, everybody copies the champion, and you know
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: a lot of the good teams are very good at
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: running the ball right now, and that's and this is
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: the best class of running backs I can remember in
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: a very long time in the draft. So I think
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: the two things together will combine. I think during the
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: draft weekend you're going to see how much people like
• 11:28
  Speaker 4: these running backs. But I've been to a few combines
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: and that may have been the best position workout overall,
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: and I've ever seen.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: Wow top to bottom.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Well, on top of that, I go back to a
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago when Bijon Robinson was number eight overall,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: jamiir gives his number twelve, and I go, if you
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: ask those teams right now, are they happy with their
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: selections of value on those picks? And I go, well,
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: Bijon just ran for fifteen hundred yards and cut like
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: sixty balls out of the backfield. I'm pretty sure they're
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: happy with the choice.
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, people were saying, oh, Saquon shouldn't have
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: been taken it you know where he was, and they're
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: not saying it after this year exactly exactly you had
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: to wait a few years.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: But you know, patience is a virtue. I guess, you know,
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: just just wait and the good stuff will come. But
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: this is a in the draft.
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: That's a fabulous group of running backs, and I think
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: the free agent running backs are going to feel the
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: pain because of it.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: That's too bad. We were talking about Jamior Gibbson. When
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: the line selected him at twelve, I'm like, God, it
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: seems like a little bit of a reach. But now
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's a hell of a smart pick. I mean,
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you just got to trust, trust your instincts,
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: I guess, and what your needs are and go for it.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: Because that guy's an awesome player. I just, Jeff, I
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: would like to see a running back renaissance. I really would,
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: because that's what I grew up on, right, I mean,
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: that's how valuable those guys were. But when you look
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: at the total number of running backs now taking in
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: the draft, on average, it's not even half of what
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: it was. Let's say in nineteen ninety one, where you
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: have like forty five running backs taken. Now you've got
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: like eighteen to twenty two.
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe I think this year will be a little blip
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: this is a good group. Okay, but you're right, and again,
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: you know, the pressure of the business has created this
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: in some ways. Some of this isn't a football decision.
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: It's it's coaches trying to get hired. It's offensive coordinators
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: trying to be head coaches, and what owners respond to,
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: what a fans respond to. You know, no one ever says, Okay,
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: the team I love needs a head coach.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Let's go out and find the best defensive mind we can.
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: No one says that ever, I mean ever, they say,
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: let's get an innovator. We need to be you know, innovative,
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: an offense and creative, and we need to do more thing.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: It's always that, and that that's not conducive to people,
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: you know, who are coming up in coaching to say,
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: to try and convince their head coaches, I think we
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: should call more running plays. I mean, look how the
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: Broncos struggled this past year trying to figure out when
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: to run the ball, and they have one of the
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: most experienced coaches in the league calling play just.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: A couple of quick ones.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: LEGI.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: On the subject to running backs, there's a report out
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: of this sports anchor Darren Wolfson in Minnesota a couple
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: of days ago where he said that there is legit
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: steam for the Broncos in regards to Aaron Jones, have
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: you heard anything on that.
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: Well, he fits their offense the best of any free
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: agent running back, So I've put his name on any
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: list I've made. He's had three fifty catch seasons in
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: the last four years. That's and he rushed for one
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: thousand yards last year and he at twenty nine.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: So he's thirty.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: He just turned thirty and he's coming off a thousand
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: yard season with fifty catches. That's a joker in Peyton's offense.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: He fits he of all the free agent running backs,
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: he is the best fit for the Broncos. And if
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: you're going to pursue one that old as a running back,
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: you want a guy with the health history he has.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: He's on the field a lot, so he checks all
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: the boxes. They better have interest would be my reaction
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: to that.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And then last thing for you, you were
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: at the combine. You saw a whole bunch of people
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: participating for the local products that were there between CUCSU
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: everybody else. Is there anybody who stood out? Tory Horton
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: guys like that.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think Tory helped himself. I think
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: people were wondering, you know, how does he look coming
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: off the injury? And he ran really well, So that's
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: that's always a good start, you know. I think, you know,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: none of the receivers were really spectacular in the drills
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: because the quarterbacks were not spectacular in the drills. Other
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: than the the Louisville quarterback shuck, everyone else had a
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: pretty middling throw you know, throwing session.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: You know a lot of people have been.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: That Jackson Dark was head and shoulders above everybody there.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: I personally did not see it that way, and many
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: coaches I talked to did not see it that way.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: So I think that's a media creation.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Uh So, the receivers did not have a great day
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: catching because the quarterbacks did not have a great day throwing.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Overall, what happened to Will I think he helped himself
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: when he ran, for sure what happened to Will Howard,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: But he was he had a tough day. He was
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: all over the place. You know, mill Row had a
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: tough day. He was all over the place.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Again, It's it's hard for a quarterback because you're throwing
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: the twenty guys, you've never thrown a pass too, for
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: the most part, and it's you're hopped up.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: It's a tense situation.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: And the combine, unlike Pro Day, which is why some
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: guys don't throw at the combine, is they picked the
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: most difficult routes and have you throw those over and
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: over because that's what they want to see. They don't
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: want to see you connect on the easy ones. They
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: want to make you throw the hard ones, and that
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: impacts some guys.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Thirty seconds. I got one guy that I love that
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: could be a mill.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Round anything in thirty seconds. You know this? All right?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Fine? Twenty five seconds?
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Saveon Williams TCUs six foot five, two hundred and thirty
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: pound running back, wide receiver. Whatever. What about him? Are
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you with me? Should I be excited about this? Guys?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: They're intrigued with him.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: There's not a lot of intrigue.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, you know, I think, uh, I
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: think people see him as a more athlete than player
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: right now. So that's your banking on potential, you know,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: And that's a down the board guy to be excited about.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Let's say that twenty five seconds, that's all I needed
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: for you to crush my dreams. That's all it took.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't trust it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: It still remains in a in a day three or
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: late day two format.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: All right, gotcham Jeff always appreciate the time. Thanks for
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: killing us with those facts, buddy. We'll talk to you
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: next week. Thanks those Jeff Lakeweld ESPN dot com. All
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Conversations with Leggy brought you by the International Brotherhood of
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Electrical Workers IBW Local sixty eight. Start with a job
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and with the career.