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Year Two Jump & Coach Pederson Development | Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, March 28 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

0:03
Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drivetime with John Osier, Hers and Brian
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Speaker 1: Sexty Sexton Jangs Drive Time. It starts right now. Good morning,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Jags Drivetime. We'll call it the Owners
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Speaker 1: Meetings Edition as I am here in Jacksonville at TIAA
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Speaker 1: bank Field and John Osier is in Arizona. You know,
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Speaker 1: the meetings are generally at the builtmore out there, but
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Speaker 1: something tells me John's at the fair field end down
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Speaker 1: the road. We have got a jam pack show, lots
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Speaker 1: of things to talk about today. So without further ado,
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Speaker 1: let's bring in the senior writer from Jaguars dot Com.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, we're not going to do that yet. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna go big things right out of the gate, and
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Speaker 1: we'll start with big Thing number one. Year two. It's
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Speaker 1: a pretty big deal. And Doug said yesterday that he
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Speaker 1: was looking forward to the second year of the program
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Speaker 1: that he got started last year. It's been a while
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Speaker 1: since we've had a coach in year two to see
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Speaker 1: the continuity. He is anticipating a lot of very positive
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Speaker 1: and productive storylines coming from year two and we can
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Speaker 1: show them now on tape this spring. Those those issues
1:23
Speaker 1: and that's where we get that's where we get better,
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Speaker 1: and that's where we take another step. It's just the
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Speaker 1: details of what we're doing in all three phases. And
1:32
Speaker 1: you know, that's why this offseason will be exciting to
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Speaker 1: get the guys back. Off season program begins April seventeenth.
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Speaker 1: All right, Big thing two no surprise here, Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: in year two with Doug, and Doug was effusive in
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Speaker 1: his praise yesterday when he met with the media at
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Speaker 1: the owner's meetings. I truly believe that he there's so
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Speaker 1: much more for him and and and he's he wants that,
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Speaker 1: you know, and he's willing to He's willing to do
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Speaker 1: what it takes to to work. And and uh, that's
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Speaker 1: what you want um as the leader of your football team,
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Speaker 1: right and that that rubs off on the rest of
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Speaker 1: your team. And Big thing three is improvement. And I
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Speaker 1: touched on this last week. If you saw a happy
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Speaker 1: hour with Jeff Logham an improvement is more than just
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Speaker 1: adding players to the roster, though they'll do that when
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Speaker 1: the draft comes up later in April. They didn't get
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Speaker 1: a lot of that done in free agency for the
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Speaker 1: obvious reason. There's not a lot of money, but there
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Speaker 1: is plenty of room to get better. And the coach
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Speaker 1: touched on that issue yesterday. We're not necessarily installing the
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Speaker 1: offense again or the defense again, right, it's now, it's
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Speaker 1: just how we make it better and how we use
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Speaker 1: our players better um in certain situations. And so now
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Speaker 1: we bring in the senior writer, John Ozier, who joins
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Speaker 1: us from where the fair field in just outside the airport?
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Speaker 1: Is that where you're staying, John, And it is super
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. I bet it is.
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Speaker 1: You have to take a bus in a new brilliant
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Speaker 1: over to the owners meetings or they actually let you
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Speaker 1: in the good place to be. Yeah, I'm glad. No,
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Speaker 1: it's more remote. I love Rocks and hope they let
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Speaker 1: me in. So it's good. It's a living Let's start
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Speaker 1: with Doug yesterday, and obviously at the coach's breakfast, coaches
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Speaker 1: are relaxed. It's a different scene than we see when
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Speaker 1: Doug stands in front of the media at the at
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Speaker 1: the podium or on the practice field after a day
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Speaker 1: of training camp. And he was I thought, very candid
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Speaker 1: when he talked about the approach that this team has
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Speaker 1: this offseason. Yeah, you had to be quick. I mean
3:35
Speaker 1: they shortened this thing up. It used to be an
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Speaker 1: hour and now it's a half an hour. So we
3:39
Speaker 1: were trying Demetrius Harvey from the Times Union and I
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Speaker 1: were trying to get Jaguars related questions in sort of
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Speaker 1: around a lot of national people, and that Doug does
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Speaker 1: attract a national audience, which is kind of cool. But
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Speaker 1: I was really trying to get with Doug on getting
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Speaker 1: an idea at the combine. We talked to our draft
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Speaker 1: with him and free agency of what maybe to expect
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Speaker 1: with that not really being very busy this year, I
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Speaker 1: wanted yesterday to try to get an idea for what
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Speaker 1: he had seen in the film work that I know
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Speaker 1: they've done ever since they got back from you know,
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks off after Kansas City. I wanted
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Speaker 1: to get a feel for, Hey, you've dug down into
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Speaker 1: this offense. Now you talked for a year about how
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Speaker 1: you thought there'd be a second year jump. What are
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Speaker 1: you really doing to see that? And the thing really
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Speaker 1: struck me and I asked him about it. He sort
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Speaker 1: of gave a quick answer on Trevor and he was
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Speaker 1: almost trying to hide a smile and I said, you're smiling,
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Speaker 1: we think about this, you're excited about this, and you
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Speaker 1: know that's when he kind of relaxed and gave the
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Speaker 1: answer that we saw on big things. I think he
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Speaker 1: saw in tape. I think him and Press Taylor and
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Speaker 1: the offensive coaches saw a kid who improved dramatically, had
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Speaker 1: major stretches where he was really good. We saw it
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Speaker 1: against against Los Angeles the second half Dallas at times
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Speaker 1: where he was lights out and putting up points any
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Speaker 1: quarterback could do. I think they see where they can
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Speaker 1: take away certain things that he wasn't doing quite a
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Speaker 1: way of I think they just see where they're going
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Speaker 1: to streamline this thing, and I think they think he's
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Speaker 1: going to exploit. I don't think they really want to
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Speaker 1: talk about it and get giddy, but I think there's
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Speaker 1: a feeling there that this thing's gonna jump well and John.
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Speaker 1: It's easy to look at the roster and see where
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Speaker 1: other guys will improve dramatically when the quarterback does. Here's
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Speaker 1: one example that people might not relate to the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: But you got a cornerback like Tyson Campbell, right, he's
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Speaker 1: a young guy going into his third year. He's an
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Speaker 1: ascending player, someone you want to be able to count on.
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Speaker 1: What if he's playing with the league, which he rarely
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Speaker 1: did in his first season and last year, you know
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Speaker 1: they were close games. What if there is a pass
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Speaker 1: rush from Trayvon Walker and Josh Allen because they can
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Speaker 1: tape their ears back and get after him because they're
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Speaker 1: leading by fourteen points. How much better does that make
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Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell right when you look at the whole roster,
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Speaker 1: he's the lynchpin that gets it all rolling. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think we saw that a little bit. And it's a
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Speaker 1: little hard to really discern the stats because you know,
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Speaker 1: stats can be twisted any which way. But the offense
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Speaker 1: got better late last season if you remember it, you know,
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Speaker 1: Doug talked about it. The second half of the season,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence got better. Fifteen or fourteen touchdowns, one interception,
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Speaker 1: whatever that number was, it was much better than the
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Speaker 1: first half. The defense in the second half the season
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Speaker 1: after Detroit, they gave up three four hundred yard games
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Speaker 1: in a row that ended with Detroit, and the five
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Speaker 1: games after that they never gave it four hundred yards.
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Speaker 1: Their turnovers forced went way up in that last five
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Speaker 1: games as opposed to the previous eight. You've got to
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Speaker 1: think a lot of that had to do with playing
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Speaker 1: with more leads, playing in situations where you know the
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Speaker 1: other team's got to pass. I agree with you, Brian.
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Speaker 1: And one thing Doug said yesterday I asked him about
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Speaker 1: the defense later on in the conversation, they said, we
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Speaker 1: got to get better pass rush. Yeah, but he didn't
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Speaker 1: say if that would happen once you get a lead,
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Speaker 1: because I don't think he wants to give the defensive players, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: we get a lead, we're gonna get the passer. But
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Speaker 1: NFL people know if if you're facing third and eight,
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Speaker 1: that's much easier to get a sack than if you're trailing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, then if you're trailing by seven and facing
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Speaker 1: third and two, you know, and they were they get leads,
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Speaker 1: they're going to get better pass rush. And there were
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Speaker 1: two players that he talked about, and you know what
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Speaker 1: they at length he talked about, so let's start with
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Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker since we're on the defensive side, and he
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Speaker 1: talked about what he liked from Trayvon last year and
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Speaker 1: what he needed to see from Trayvon. He mixed a
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Speaker 1: little bit of Josh Allen in there, but I thought
8:00
Speaker 1: when he was talking about the past rushing improving, he
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Speaker 1: was leaning heavily into last year's number one overall pick,
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Speaker 1: taking a big jump forward, maybe John even Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: kind of jump sometime in this year where he gets
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Speaker 1: it where the light goes on and all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden he's playing to his potential. Yeah, And he went
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Speaker 1: a couple of different directions there. The big thing, I
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Speaker 1: keep getting questions about Treyvon what he's doing to improve.
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Speaker 1: So I asked Doug about that, hoping you get into
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Speaker 1: it a little bit. I think the big thing he
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Speaker 1: said was, look, players get better in year two, not
8:38
Speaker 1: necessarily because they're working on a certain move on the
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Speaker 1: practice field out at their individual camp in Colorado. You
8:45
Speaker 1: know what I mean, everybody sort of wants that they
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Speaker 1: get better because they don't have just a grind of
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Speaker 1: an offseason going into the draft. They get better because
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden they know how to study a
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Speaker 1: little better. They you know, a lot of these guys
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Speaker 1: come in from college and they've been better than their
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Speaker 1: opponent for years. They haven't had to study the offensive
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Speaker 1: tackle across from him. So most rookies get better learning
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Speaker 1: how to study, learning how to take what they see
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Speaker 1: on tape and putting it into use in a game.
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Speaker 1: Knowing how to approach different offensive tackles if you're Trayvon,
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Speaker 1: So he talked more about that as a concept. I
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Speaker 1: think he, you know, with Trayvon's will, with his work ethic,
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Speaker 1: with his frame, obviously he's got everything. I think they
9:27
Speaker 1: think he'll take a jump for that reason. But I
9:29
Speaker 1: do think that obviously we've talked about it, Brian, this
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Speaker 1: team needs those second year guys to be impactful on defense.
9:39
Speaker 1: Doug certainly believes that has app now on the other
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Speaker 1: side of the ball. He mentioned briefly Etn being one
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Speaker 1: of those second year guys. Even though it'll be his
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Speaker 1: third NFL season, it'll be his second year. He expects
9:50
Speaker 1: him to take a big jump. But the conversation went
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Speaker 1: to Calvin Ridley and what the coach had seen watching
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Speaker 1: tape and where his thoughts were on how the guy
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Speaker 1: they traded for last October might become someone they really
10:04
Speaker 1: can count on, you know, this October and November as
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Speaker 1: they make another playoff run. Yeah to your first point
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Speaker 1: at ETN very quickly, Doug said it at the combine,
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Speaker 1: and he's sort of hinted at it yesterday and then
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Speaker 1: got off on another topic. I think he believes the
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Speaker 1: running game is gonna be a lot better, not that
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Speaker 1: it wasn't good last year, not that anybody did anything wrong.
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Speaker 1: He just believes there's some continuity stuff there too. With
10:28
Speaker 1: Travis learning to hit holes in the NFL, there's a
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Speaker 1: learning curve there. With second year of running backs. It's
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Speaker 1: not talked about as much as quarterbacks. I think he
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Speaker 1: thinks overall there's gonna be more continuity and better out
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Speaker 1: of the running game with all running backs. Yes, he
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Speaker 1: got into Ridley a little bit. I thought it was interesting.
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Speaker 1: This was the first time they've really wanted to talk
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Speaker 1: about Ridley because he hadn't cleared suspension yet before. And
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Speaker 1: he he didn't go all in. He didn't talk about him. Hey,
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Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be the one. He's gonna change the offense.
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Speaker 1: But they definitely believe that this guy is going to
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Speaker 1: fit what they do, help everybody and raise everybody else.
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Speaker 1: You know, if this kid's what he is, meaning a
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Speaker 1: number one receiver, all of a sudden, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of pieces in place offensively, and you know, Doug didn't
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Speaker 1: go into that kind of detail on it. You gotta
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Speaker 1: hear a new voice. They're excited about what they've seen
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Speaker 1: from them, and they think that what he does well
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Speaker 1: fits what they do well. Yeah, I think that much
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Speaker 1: was clear listening to him, And you know he touched
11:27
Speaker 1: a little bit on Evan Ingram and Christian Kirkins A
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Speaker 1: Jones and how this guy gives them one more weapon,
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Speaker 1: but it's one more chess piece to try to create
11:37
Speaker 1: the sort of mismatches and the sort of matchups that
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Speaker 1: they were looking for last year but couldn't always get there.
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Speaker 1: And when you combine that with Trevor Lawrence taking a
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Speaker 1: big step forward a defense that might be able to
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Speaker 1: give you some turnovers in field position. Look, John, I
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Speaker 1: mean you know it as well as I do. Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson from the moment he got here was calm and confident, right.
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Speaker 1: He knew that he knew what it took to get
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Speaker 1: this team up off the mat, and by the end
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Speaker 1: of the year he had done that. I gotta imagine
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Speaker 1: that you felt that confidence yesterday sitting next to him
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Speaker 1: as he talked about where he expected this team to
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Speaker 1: go this year. Yeah, I don't want to put words
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Speaker 1: in his mouth because he's you know, doesn't need me
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Speaker 1: to do that. It seemed to be Brian this we
12:21
Speaker 1: we listened to him all last year and whenever he
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Speaker 1: was asked about it, he talked about the offense was
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Speaker 1: going to be better in its second year than it
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Speaker 1: was in its first. Center he just believes that he
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Speaker 1: knows what continuity means. So then last year they sort of,
12:35
Speaker 1: you know, they got very hot at the end, it
12:37
Speaker 1: turned into its own story. Twenty twenty three was no
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Speaker 1: longer what they were talking about. They wanted to go
12:43
Speaker 1: win it when they could then, so that kind of
12:45
Speaker 1: got back Bernard a little bit, and I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: Doug thought about it as much. And then it seems
12:50
Speaker 1: like you take a couple of weeks you decompressed from
12:53
Speaker 1: Kansas City. If it was that long, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what it was. But all of a sudden you turn
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Speaker 1: the page to twenty twenty three and you just get
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Speaker 1: the feeling that now they've gone back, they've looked at
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Speaker 1: what they were last season and maybe even looked around
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Speaker 1: the team meetings, going, hey, we still got a second
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Speaker 1: year jump coming, you know, and as good as they
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Speaker 1: were getting at the end of last year, if you
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Speaker 1: push that forward and you get rid of some of
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Speaker 1: the inconsistency and start, you know, add Calvin Ridley to it.
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Speaker 1: It seemed to me that maybe the coaches are looking
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Speaker 1: at it now and deep inside and not want to
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Speaker 1: talk about it too much. They're feeling the excitement on
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Speaker 1: film that everybody else is sort of feeling on Twitter
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Speaker 1: and on social media. I know you love Twitter, Bryan,
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Speaker 1: so I think they're feeling the same sort of thing
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Speaker 1: that the fans are starting to feel. And it's real.
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Speaker 1: So that was sort of my gut listening to Doug.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's way off. Maybe you're depressed. You're the only
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Speaker 1: guy I follow on Twitter, John, you give me everything
13:48
Speaker 1: I need. I'm a good follow. Yeah, yeah, I would
13:52
Speaker 1: say that you are all right. We're gonna take a
13:53
Speaker 1: break when we come back on JAG's Drivetime, we'll take
13:56
Speaker 1: a look at some of the other issues around the
13:58
Speaker 1: National Football League that John is covering from Arizona and
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Speaker 1: get his thoughts and maybe a preview of his conversation
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Speaker 1: later today with Jaguar's owner Shot con All that and
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Speaker 1: more straight ahead on Jack's Right Time. You know, obviously,
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Speaker 1: different team, different different circumstances, all that but different coach
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Speaker 1: from the standpoint I think of, you know, just just
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Speaker 1: relating to the players a little bit more. I had
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Speaker 1: great relationships with the guys in Philly, but I think
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Speaker 1: just understanding the roster, being more involved with the roster
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, and just kind of understanding the different dynamics,
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Speaker 1: you know, for me, understanding better the team, the roster,
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Speaker 1: the makeup, the chemistry, and that I think is one
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Speaker 1: of the differences that I saw, you know, along with
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Speaker 1: having fun with the guys you know every day. That's
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Speaker 1: head coach Peterson from yesterday's AFC Coaches Breakfast. Bryant Sexton
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Speaker 1: back with you here on Jack's Drive Time from TIAA
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Speaker 1: bank Field and Jacksonville. John Ozier joins us from the
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Speaker 1: Built Moore in Arizona. John had struck me was he
15:14
Speaker 1: was asked questions by some Philadelphia reporters, you know, about
15:18
Speaker 1: players in situations in Philly when he was there. You know,
15:22
Speaker 1: he was also asked questions about quarterback development and about
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Speaker 1: his year out of football Spice. I think Ryal Holleran
15:31
Speaker 1: was the guy who asked him that about Sean Payton
15:33
Speaker 1: coming back in Denver, so it was a fair question
15:38
Speaker 1: so how are you different? You know what's different about
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson in Jacksonville than Doug Peterson in Philly? And
15:45
Speaker 1: I didn't cover him in Philly, but I would say
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Speaker 1: he seems relaxed and confident. Yeah, I can't imagine that
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Speaker 1: he wasn't relaxing confident there. But you know, you come in.
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Speaker 1: I've got to think he's in a good place right now.
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Speaker 1: You you come in, you got to do per Bowl rings.
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Speaker 1: So he knows what that looks like. He said all
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Speaker 1: year that they thought the team was you know, early
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Speaker 1: he thought the team was good. It proved itself to
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Speaker 1: be good. He believes there's gonna be a second year jump,
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Speaker 1: so he thinks they're going to be better. He has
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Speaker 1: that frame of reference in Philly where they went and
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Speaker 1: won the super Bowl in the second year, whether or
16:17
Speaker 1: not making the playoffs. I don't think that means that
16:19
Speaker 1: he's you know, already fitting himself a ring. But I
16:24
Speaker 1: think he expects this to be a good year where
16:26
Speaker 1: he sees, you know, and a fun year, you know, improvements,
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Speaker 1: fun watching players reach their potential as fun. I think
16:34
Speaker 1: he thinks he's going to see that out of this
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Speaker 1: offense and I'm sure again I didn't know Doug news
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Speaker 1: in Philly. I don't pretend to know him, you know,
16:43
Speaker 1: on any sort of a level past covering him now.
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Speaker 1: But I'm sure you know, a year away from the
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Speaker 1: game some perspective there. It wasn't easy to be dismissed
16:53
Speaker 1: in Philly as he has. So I'm sure there's a
16:55
Speaker 1: little bit of a perspective that comes when you age
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Speaker 1: as a human being and you know, and as a
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Speaker 1: person and experience. I've gotta think he's in a really
17:04
Speaker 1: good place. And I think you saw that reflected in
17:06
Speaker 1: Jacksonville last year. Money where the mouth is, so to speak.
17:10
Speaker 1: You know, you say you don't panic, you say you're
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Speaker 1: a level headed guy. He showed it after October last year.
17:15
Speaker 1: You know, I've got to think this is a good
17:19
Speaker 1: time to be Doug Peters. All right, So let's touch
17:21
Speaker 1: on a couple of things. First of all, the Jaguars,
17:24
Speaker 1: as it had been reported last week, yesterday they announced
17:26
Speaker 1: the signing of two backup defensive tackles, Michael Dogby, who
17:30
Speaker 1: was right there in Arizona with the Cardinals for a
17:32
Speaker 1: number of years, and Henry Mondeau, who's bounced around with
17:34
Speaker 1: a couple of different teams. Most recently he was with
17:36
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. That's the kind of solid signings
17:41
Speaker 1: you hope they're solid signings. They both look like they
17:44
Speaker 1: are that you need to have when you've got a
17:46
Speaker 1: quarterback you're about to pay. Yeah, you need guys who
17:51
Speaker 1: all three of their recent signings they're running back from
17:53
Speaker 1: believing Dernis Johnson sort of the same deal. Fifth year
17:57
Speaker 1: in the NFL. When you put on the tape you
18:02
Speaker 1: have you know, none of these guys have missed a
18:05
Speaker 1: whole lot of time, so they've got four years to
18:08
Speaker 1: look at and see what they are. I think Trent
18:11
Speaker 1: Balky looked at these guys and said, hey, we know
18:12
Speaker 1: exactly what's walking in the building. We don't have to guess.
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Speaker 1: They're not projects, they're not developments. They're plug and play guys.
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Speaker 1: Two of them on one year deal. I think they're
18:22
Speaker 1: all on one year deals. So they're that thing that
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Speaker 1: makes sense. You know, they're veterans who know the league.
18:30
Speaker 1: They're sort of younger versions of Adam Gotsis maybe ye
18:34
Speaker 1: who came in and not two or three years ago.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, we don't talk much about Adam, but every
18:41
Speaker 1: couple of games is making a play where you go, oh,
18:43
Speaker 1: Adam Gotsis, So I think these are sort of that
18:46
Speaker 1: kind of guy. And as you say, you have to
18:48
Speaker 1: have that in the NFL. It can't just be the
18:51
Speaker 1: eighteen guys that you talk about first wave. You have
18:56
Speaker 1: to have good players as you're you know, second nine
18:59
Speaker 1: to ten, Ruth if you will all right guys in
19:01
Speaker 1: the defensive one. The Competition Committee meets at the Combine
19:07
Speaker 1: in Indian late February early March. Then they present their
19:10
Speaker 1: recommendations on proposed rule changes to the owners here at
19:15
Speaker 1: this meeting. And so there are a couple of things.
19:17
Speaker 1: I'm just curious if you've heard anything about the rugby
19:20
Speaker 1: style play which Philadelphia they converted that short yardage play
19:25
Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts being pushed from behind thirty seven times
19:30
Speaker 1: in forty one attempts, so a lot of success there.
19:33
Speaker 1: There's a talk about replay for roughing penalties, which introduces
19:37
Speaker 1: a lot of different variables that none of which seemed
19:40
Speaker 1: to be like it would help the situation. And then
19:42
Speaker 1: finally what they're calling the brock Purty rule, which is
19:45
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the roster because brock Purty was injured.
19:48
Speaker 1: They were down to their third which is like their
19:50
Speaker 1: fifth this year in San Francisco in that playoff game
19:53
Speaker 1: in Philly. Be hearing anything at all about the prospects
19:56
Speaker 1: of any of these being a a new point of
20:00
Speaker 1: emphasis your rule in twenty twenty three, I haven't heard
20:04
Speaker 1: much beyond and heard of the combine, which that um
20:08
Speaker 1: the rug yourself from. It seems like people want to
20:15
Speaker 1: figure out a way to not have that be a thing,
20:18
Speaker 1: not necessarily because it's anti Philadelphia. I mean, I think
20:21
Speaker 1: thank people giving credit for figuring it out and making
20:23
Speaker 1: it work, but the injury potential there and the potential
20:27
Speaker 1: for it just not to look like football is pretty high.
20:30
Speaker 1: So the feeling, the only vibe I've gotten, is that
20:34
Speaker 1: they're they want to try to figure out a way
20:36
Speaker 1: to make that not what it was. And again it's
20:41
Speaker 1: not because it was it was too easy. Credit to
20:43
Speaker 1: him for doing it, but when you have they try
20:46
Speaker 1: to get you know, this, huge bodies not colliding as
20:52
Speaker 1: much in a game where that's always there quarterback in
20:56
Speaker 1: the middle of that pile. Was that you got that
20:58
Speaker 1: quarterback in the middle of that your quarterback? I mean, yeah,
21:00
Speaker 1: that's you're a guy and he's in the middle of
21:02
Speaker 1: all those human beings. There's a potential for serious injury
21:05
Speaker 1: there too. Yeah, so I don't think that'll be around long.
21:09
Speaker 1: I don't have a feel for whether it'll be outlawed
21:12
Speaker 1: in the next couple of days or not, but I
21:15
Speaker 1: think gradually, well, we won't see that the brock Prity rule,
21:20
Speaker 1: you know. I think teams generally speaking, there was a
21:24
Speaker 1: little bit of an outrage after that because oh, they
21:25
Speaker 1: shouldn't have that rule. Well, there's a rule to prevent
21:27
Speaker 1: that you can carry three quarterbacks. So I'm not sure
21:30
Speaker 1: there was a whole lot of sympathy with then. A
21:32
Speaker 1: lot of people are in the league for the forty
21:34
Speaker 1: nine ers because everybody knows that you're able to you
21:39
Speaker 1: can carry three if you want, that's up to you.
21:41
Speaker 1: So I never got a sense for that. And you know,
21:45
Speaker 1: the only people I've talked to about the roughing thing
21:50
Speaker 1: fans want to see more things reviewed because they think
21:54
Speaker 1: it'll help the roughing penalty. To me, if they review roughing,
21:58
Speaker 1: it's going to be the same thing is interference, where
22:01
Speaker 1: the competition committee goes, okay, you wann't reviewed, go review
22:05
Speaker 1: it this year. It'll be a disaster. It'll be a fiasco,
22:08
Speaker 1: just like interference. It won't help anything, and I'll take
22:10
Speaker 1: it out the next year. I don't think they'll review
22:13
Speaker 1: roughing because it's your thing, Brian, and my blood starts
22:17
Speaker 1: to boil because it's a pet peeve of mine. More
22:20
Speaker 1: replayed things. When their judgment don't change the final outcome,
22:25
Speaker 1: it just causes more more controversy. It's one more person
22:30
Speaker 1: to make a decision, and it's still their opinion on
22:32
Speaker 1: what they saw. All right, A couple more names to
22:34
Speaker 1: throw at you. And again, you're not covering these stories,
22:37
Speaker 1: but you're talking to your your peers out there who
22:40
Speaker 1: are covering them. Peers. Okay, I'm sorry to put you
22:45
Speaker 1: in that uncomfortable position of having to acknowledge your greatness, John,
22:48
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. There's been all sorts of
22:51
Speaker 1: stories back and forth. There any idea that that maybe
22:55
Speaker 1: gets solved, or if people are thinking this thing is
22:58
Speaker 1: going to drag out. I think generally we talk about
23:01
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers with other media people, it's sort of a
23:06
Speaker 1: deep sigh of at some point it will happen, but
23:10
Speaker 1: they're tired and sort of dealing with it. It's like, Okay,
23:13
Speaker 1: we've talked this to death. There's not a lot of
23:16
Speaker 1: new ground to cover, even if you're hang out talking
23:18
Speaker 1: about it over a party. I think there's a feeling
23:21
Speaker 1: that'll eventually get done and it'll be on Aaron Rodgers time,
23:24
Speaker 1: which who knows when that is. Yeah, well there's not
23:27
Speaker 1: a story headline that they made progress yesterday, so we'll
23:30
Speaker 1: see up go ahead. No, sure sure that it exactly
23:35
Speaker 1: any any scuttle butt on the Lamar Jackson situation. When
23:39
Speaker 1: John Harball was in his breakfast yesterday, Lamar tweeted that
23:44
Speaker 1: he wanted to be traded. It put the coach in
23:46
Speaker 1: that unique situation of having a comment. And of course
23:49
Speaker 1: now you've got places, you know, they're looking for a
23:51
Speaker 1: quarterback Indiana, in Indianapolis, Atlanta, thinking well, maybe now's the
23:56
Speaker 1: time to strike while the iron's hot. Any sense of
23:59
Speaker 1: what's going on with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, the only feeling
24:02
Speaker 1: that I've talked to you from different people is you know,
24:05
Speaker 1: he's sort of been on the trade ball. Yes, he
24:08
Speaker 1: tweeted it out. Yes it was a crafty mood to
24:10
Speaker 1: put Harbor on the spot, but he's sort of been
24:13
Speaker 1: available for a long time. So did it change very
24:17
Speaker 1: Was it good to get in the Twitter verse for
24:19
Speaker 1: a day and get that out there that he's unhappy
24:20
Speaker 1: wants to leave? Maybe, but it doesn't change that much.
24:24
Speaker 1: Everybody's known he's available to be pursued for what two
24:30
Speaker 1: or three weeks now, So it doesn't really change that
24:33
Speaker 1: much in reality. Maybe it changes some perception, and you know,
24:36
Speaker 1: sometimes that gets things moving, But I think the general
24:39
Speaker 1: feelings is that you just don't know much beyond what
24:44
Speaker 1: you knew yesterday morning. All right, and before we let
24:47
Speaker 1: you go, how about a thought on your your upcoming
24:50
Speaker 1: conversation this afternoon with Jaguar's owners shot con Where are
24:55
Speaker 1: you going without? Yeah, it's it's it's an interesting off season.
24:59
Speaker 1: You know, when things are quiet, like when teams are winning,
25:03
Speaker 1: you don't get that much from the head coach in
25:05
Speaker 1: the offseason because there's not a whole lot of movement
25:07
Speaker 1: going on, right So, you know, I think for people
25:10
Speaker 1: watching it, the news from Doug Peterson probably felt a
25:13
Speaker 1: little bit like the news from the combine with Doug Peterson,
25:16
Speaker 1: because you know, they're not making a lot of moves.
25:18
Speaker 1: They're trying to get better internally. That doesn't cause for
25:20
Speaker 1: great headlines. I think Shod's sort of the same way. Frankly,
25:24
Speaker 1: you know, the stadium thing is probably a few years away.
25:30
Speaker 1: It's a good team right now. He kept the coach,
25:33
Speaker 1: he kept the you know, the GM obviously do. There's
25:37
Speaker 1: no change there. So my main thought with him is
25:40
Speaker 1: gonna be, Hey, you're an owner now who's been through
25:43
Speaker 1: a lot as an owner, had a lot of rough seasons.
25:46
Speaker 1: What's it like being out here when you're a successful
25:49
Speaker 1: owner or you enjoying that a little bit? Talking to
25:51
Speaker 1: him a little about the Miller Electric Center, I'll talk
25:54
Speaker 1: to him about Balky, and I'll talk to him about Peterson,
25:56
Speaker 1: sort of where he sees it going. I don't anticipate
26:00
Speaker 1: bombshell out of this, but I think fans will be
26:02
Speaker 1: interested to see how he feels about the team right now,
26:04
Speaker 1: particularly head coach, GM Electric centers, just sort of how
26:09
Speaker 1: he feels about things going forward, all right, And you
26:11
Speaker 1: might tell him you have no peers. You might just
26:15
Speaker 1: let me know that he's sitting down with you know,
26:17
Speaker 1: an all time great. Well, he'll see it the right way,
26:22
Speaker 1: which is I have no peers, because you know I'm
26:25
Speaker 1: down here, baby, John Os you're from Arizona. Thanks for
26:28
Speaker 1: joining this this morning. John Safe travels home tomorrow. Brian,
26:31
Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, appreciate it. When we come back your
26:34
Speaker 1: own Jack's Drivetime, we'll check in with the Florida Lottery.
26:37
Speaker 1: You know, all season long we talked about a scholar
26:39
Speaker 1: athlete program and the Bright Futures program that the Florida
26:43
Speaker 1: Lottery is intricately involved with. We'll find out from the
26:47
Speaker 1: Lottery's perspective how it all went. Welcome back to Jags
27:02
Speaker 1: Drive Time here at TIAA bank Field, and joining us
27:04
Speaker 1: from Tallahassee now is the Secretary of the Florida Lottery,
27:07
Speaker 1: John Davis, And welcome Secretary Davis to the Jaguars Drivetime. Well,
27:13
Speaker 1: thank you, and I appreciate having the opportunity to talk
27:16
Speaker 1: about the Florida Lotteries education initiative and what we're trying
27:19
Speaker 1: to accomplish here. Well, we've been talking about it all
27:22
Speaker 1: season long through the stories of individual student athletes here
27:26
Speaker 1: in North Florida. But just give me a sense there's
27:28
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways that you get the word
27:29
Speaker 1: out about the Florida Lottery. What made sense to you
27:33
Speaker 1: about partnering with an NFL team. Well, first, let me
27:37
Speaker 1: say how proud we are to be able to partner
27:39
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars and to support such a phenomenal team
27:43
Speaker 1: and organization. And here at the Lottery, our focus is
27:47
Speaker 1: to be able to bring awareness to our mission of
27:49
Speaker 1: enhance and education as well as to the Bright Future
27:52
Speaker 1: Scholarship program and the opportunities it provides to all students
27:56
Speaker 1: across the state of Florida. And to be able to
27:58
Speaker 1: partner with the dag you are and as well as others,
28:02
Speaker 1: really creates that opportunity in them and the bandwidth that
28:05
Speaker 1: you all have to be able to be able to
28:08
Speaker 1: get the message out. And you know, as the father
28:10
Speaker 1: of two high school students in one college student, I
28:13
Speaker 1: am fully aware of Bright Futures, but I don't know
28:16
Speaker 1: that a lot of people understand the link, the correlation
28:18
Speaker 1: between the Bright Futures and the Florida Lottery. Can you
28:20
Speaker 1: expound on that for us? That is correct. The Brightfagies
28:24
Speaker 1: Scholarship program was created by the Florida Legislature in nineteen
28:28
Speaker 1: ninety seven and it's primarily funded by the Florida Lottery
28:32
Speaker 1: and the contributions that we the resources that we bring
28:36
Speaker 1: in through our gaming system goes to help fund the
28:39
Speaker 1: scholarship and as we all know, it can be life
28:42
Speaker 1: changing for so many students. And to date the program
28:45
Speaker 1: has been able to help more than nine hundred and
28:49
Speaker 1: fifty thousand students across the state pursue their dreams of
28:53
Speaker 1: a higher education. And we will continue to work with
28:56
Speaker 1: organizations like the Jaguars to be able to help get
28:59
Speaker 1: the message out. Well, and you talked about the students,
29:02
Speaker 1: and we told the story of five individuals from different
29:06
Speaker 1: high schools throughout the course of the year, and I
29:08
Speaker 1: know that you told the story of hundreds as you
29:10
Speaker 1: went out and about spreading the message of the Florida
29:12
Speaker 1: Lottery and Bright Futures. How do these features? How do
29:15
Speaker 1: these young people being featured like this, how do they benefit?
29:19
Speaker 1: What does it mean to them? It means a lot.
29:23
Speaker 1: We have the opportunity, you know, the FARTA Lottery. You know,
29:26
Speaker 1: we support a wide range of educational programs that are
29:30
Speaker 1: designed to improve the education here in the state, including
29:34
Speaker 1: our Through twelve programs, our community colleges or state universities.
29:39
Speaker 1: When you begin to think about the constructions of new
29:42
Speaker 1: projects for new educational facilities, and of course, the Bright
29:46
Speaker 1: Future Scholarship program, and these funds are used to support
29:50
Speaker 1: classroom instructions, technology infrastructure improvement, and many other educational initiatives.
29:57
Speaker 1: And this funding provides quality EDGY choices for Flaters families
30:02
Speaker 1: which are able to help it quip today's youth with
30:05
Speaker 1: the skills they need to become tomorrow's league. And I
30:08
Speaker 1: know that on April eighteenth, you're hosting an event here
30:11
Speaker 1: at the stadium, be inspired by Jags Jobs event, So
30:15
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about the event and what
30:17
Speaker 1: you hope to get from it and what students should
30:19
Speaker 1: expect to get from it. Yes, you know, we partner
30:23
Speaker 1: with diverse organizations and schools, you know, like the Jaguar Program,
30:28
Speaker 1: that share the Lottery's commitment to education, and these partnerships
30:32
Speaker 1: provide a platform for the Lottery to be able to
30:35
Speaker 1: share our education mission and to be able to bring
30:37
Speaker 1: awareness as I mentioned earlier, to the Bright Future Scholarship program.
30:41
Speaker 1: But most importantly, you know, we're dedicated to making sure
30:44
Speaker 1: that every student in this state, regardless of their race, religion, ethnicity,
30:50
Speaker 1: or socioeconomic status, knows that a bright, a brighter future
30:54
Speaker 1: is possible and attainable. And it's it's incommented upon us
30:58
Speaker 1: and to make sure that we identify good partners around
31:01
Speaker 1: this state that have the exact same mission and drive
31:07
Speaker 1: to do the work that is necessary to position these
31:10
Speaker 1: kids as well as to educate and make sure that
31:13
Speaker 1: their families as well as other community organizations are aware
31:17
Speaker 1: of the opportunities that it discs. So being able to
31:20
Speaker 1: partner is something that allows us to just expand that
31:25
Speaker 1: net to be able to help these students. Well, I'm
31:27
Speaker 1: sure you know, Secretary Davis, Jacksonville is a vibrant, thriving
31:32
Speaker 1: new city. To watch all the things that are happening downtown,
31:35
Speaker 1: especially is to see the potential of Jacksonville. And we
31:38
Speaker 1: enjoy telling the stories of that next generation of young
31:42
Speaker 1: people getting the opportunity to go out and achieve their
31:45
Speaker 1: goals and their dreams. And we hope to see you
31:48
Speaker 1: at a game in Jacksonville this fall. I definitely I'll
31:51
Speaker 1: look forward to that and can't wait to football season starts.
31:54
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I was rooting and I was so
31:57
Speaker 1: excited just to watch the guys be able to turn
32:00
Speaker 1: it on towards the end of the year last year,
32:02
Speaker 1: and they made they made it so fun for so
32:04
Speaker 1: many and not just for us here in the state
32:07
Speaker 1: of Florida and they're in Duval County, but having an
32:10
Speaker 1: entire nation watch what the Jaguars have in store. And
32:14
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to them continuing at work next year
32:18
Speaker 1: and displaying it on the field. And I'd also just
32:22
Speaker 1: like to say that I'm extremely proud of the work
32:24
Speaker 1: that the Florida Lottery is doing to support not only
32:27
Speaker 1: to students they're in Jacksonville, but all across the state
32:31
Speaker 1: and as they go on to pursue their dreams and passion.
32:34
Speaker 1: And I'm so excited for what the future definitely holds
32:38
Speaker 1: for the students here in that great state of Florida.
32:40
Speaker 1: Secretary John Davis at the Florida Lottery, thanks so much
32:42
Speaker 1: for your time this morning on Jags Drive Time. Look
32:44
Speaker 1: forward to seeing you in the fall. Thank you, and
32:47
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33:09
Speaker 1: know number one, you know we've we've established a culture
33:13
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Silcare are they? Are they? Culture? Fits. I
33:15
Speaker 1: think for me, you know the high character and look.
33:20
Speaker 1: Not everybody's perfect, but at the same time, you want
33:22
Speaker 1: to guys that are going to fit the culture that
33:23
Speaker 1: you've already established. The more from head coach Doug Peterson
33:29
Speaker 1: yesterday at the AFC Coach's Breakfast at the Biltmore in Arizona,
33:33
Speaker 1: and as we alluded two moments to go with John Ozier,
33:36
Speaker 1: you can expect an interview with Jaguars owner's Shod Cohn
33:39
Speaker 1: in a story and probably to drop in the video
33:41
Speaker 1: format at some point in the next twelve to twenty
33:45
Speaker 1: four hours. That'll do it for JAGS Drivetime. Happy Hour
33:48
Speaker 1: comes your way Thursday at four o'clock with JP Shadrick
33:52
Speaker 1: and Jeff Logeman and John and I will be back
33:54
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