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Cursed Towns & Witch Trials (Feat. Cult Of Conspiracy) · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Baby, I'm a gamester too.
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  Speaker 2: It takes a little tangle.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to mess with me?
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  Speaker 2: Mess with me?
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  Speaker 8: Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. I got a
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  Speaker 8: bunch of us here, and I got these two guys
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  Speaker 8: to chop it up with them again.
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  Speaker 9: But before we get to them, we will.
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  Speaker 8: Get to the rejects that are joining us today. First,
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  Speaker 8: we'll start off with Lisa, the ocult reject to mad scientists,
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  Speaker 8: What is up and what is going on?
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  Speaker 10: How's it going? Thank you for inviting me. This looks
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  Speaker 10: like a really fun panel on a wonderful Monday night.
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  Speaker 9: Thanks, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 8: And we got Colby and Julia joining us. It's been
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  Speaker 8: a minute since Colby's been on. Very fucking excited finally
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  Speaker 8: get my man back on here. What is going on
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  Speaker 8: with both of you?
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  Speaker 9: How will you.
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  Speaker 5: Doing well? Thanks for having me back on. I'm excited
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  Speaker 5: to meet Jonathan and Jacob. Listen to their show probably
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  Speaker 5: daily at this point. I mean they've put like but
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  Speaker 5: like fourteen out a week now.
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  Speaker 3: That.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really dig in the Tavistock one right now.
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  Speaker 5: I'm in like episode two of that. I'm really looking
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  Speaker 5: forward to the third one. So yeah, good work on that, yo.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. That was one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: just kind of a I had heard a thing I'd
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  Speaker 2: heard of, Oh, Tavistock, this English group, they've been breaking
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  Speaker 2: down the American culture for decades, and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'll do a little dig in, We'll shoot a little
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  Speaker 2: show about it. I had no fucking clue that this
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  Speaker 2: was going to be at least three full episodes in
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  Speaker 2: all the content, and then when I found out how
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  Speaker 2: deep down that rabbit hole was, it was like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: we could easily make twenty episodes out of this half.
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  Speaker 11: See it's fun ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: You a whole podcast, even just a podcast for real shit.
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  Speaker 2: It goes back to the nineteen fourteen or some shit,
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  Speaker 2: and it hasn't stopped it today and it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we simply must.
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  Speaker 6: Speak on it.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I appreciate the game recognizing game on that
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 9: Bless and Julia, did you please, I'm sorry, did you
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  Speaker 9: mention that?
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  Speaker 12: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm on like every other day, so
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  Speaker 3: if you haven't found me, you never will. But you
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  Speaker 3: can't find me on the Cult of Conspiracy every Saturday.
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  Speaker 8: Hell yeah, that's what That's why I had to get
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  Speaker 8: you off. Uh, Ethan Indigo, my man, sir, what is
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  Speaker 8: going on?
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  Speaker 4: Peace owner to be here excited to hear what everyone
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  Speaker 4: communicates about. I'm a writer and researcher and i just
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  Speaker 4: put out an article recently on a cult research institute
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, more to come on the esoteric and esoteric
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  Speaker 4: and salute to you guys.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you very much, sir. And last but not least,
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  Speaker 8: JJ Vance not the vice president, was going on.
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  Speaker 7: So Nick Greiding, Sir, is always I appreciate the invite,
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  Speaker 7: fellow rejects, is always looking forward to the conversation. And
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  Speaker 7: John and Jacob I've caught a couple of your shows there,
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  Speaker 7: like your all style and looking forward to the conversation.
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  Speaker 7: Nice to meet you, JJ Vance, host of Operation GCD
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  Speaker 7: and perhaps more notably not the vice president.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, and for the conversation.
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  Speaker 9: I think Grok still thinks you are right, doesn't Grok?
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  Speaker 6: Actually yeah, absolutely thanks, I'm yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I will tell the twixter or Ai Grock or Groke
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  Speaker 7: there to draw a picture some Operation GCD themed pictures,
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  Speaker 7: and all I get is JD Vance, So you'll have that,
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  Speaker 7: I guess.
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  Speaker 11: I mean at this point, just kind of lean into it, right.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Don't vote for me in twenty twenty eight though, because
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  Speaker 6: I'm not running.
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  Speaker 9: I fucking love this all right.
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  Speaker 8: So now so now to the Cult of Conspiracy. Guys,
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  Speaker 8: Jacob you go for us. Please let everybody know what
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  Speaker 8: is up with you.
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  Speaker 9: Guys.
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  Speaker 2: We are the Cult to Conspiracy. I am one half
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  Speaker 2: of it. Jonathan and I have been running the Cult
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  Speaker 2: of Conspiracy podcast for coming up on five years now,
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  Speaker 2: I think h and we dive into everything conspiratorial, whether
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  Speaker 2: it be the esoteric and the spiritual, whether it be
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  Speaker 2: the government three letter agencies coming together to fuck us
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  Speaker 2: as a collective there's nothing that's really off topics for us.
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  Speaker 2: We come from very different places as far as this goes.
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  Speaker 2: I am a Marine Corps veteran, I am a Christian,
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  Speaker 2: and I have more of that type of boots on
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  Speaker 2: the ground, feet firmly planted on the ground approach. While
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan being a licensed hypnotherapist who does QHHT with a
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  Speaker 2: discipline and a real concentration into past life progressions and
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  Speaker 2: speaking to the higher self, he looks at things from
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  Speaker 2: a very esoteric and mythical type of background. So while
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  Speaker 2: I keep my feet on the ground, he keeps his
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  Speaker 2: heads firmly in the clouds. And we bring these types
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  Speaker 2: of different perspectives into any and all things that we
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  Speaker 2: dive into. So me and him, although we are very
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  Speaker 2: different in so many ways, we have found this weird
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  Speaker 2: gel that we just kind of get down with and
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  Speaker 2: lo and behold. We found out we were slow. It
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  Speaker 2: was surely collecting lightning in a jar, and we've just
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  Speaker 2: kind of fucking the game up ever since.
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  Speaker 8: Well, if you got a license hypnotherapist with you, I
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  Speaker 8: hope they think that, Oh absolutely.
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  Speaker 9: Man, I was gonna ask. I didn't know. I didn't
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  Speaker 9: know you were I mean that must work out well
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  Speaker 9: for podcasting, right.
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  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, yeah, Well, it helps you to get to
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  Speaker 12: understand the mind and the subconscious and what people are
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  Speaker 12: kind of ignoring all the time. Whenever the signs are
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  Speaker 12: always there. Call it your intuition, call it your connection
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  Speaker 12: to God, whatever it may be. It's something that is
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  Speaker 12: always there, and it does have a lot of the
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  Speaker 12: answers that you may be searching for. I'm somebody come
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  Speaker 12: from a very esoteric, magically kind of a witchy kind
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  Speaker 12: of side, you know. I have another podcast called Meta Mysteries,
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  Speaker 12: and we dive into all of the wild shit over there.
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  Speaker 12: We've had uh Satanic well I don't want to say wizards,
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  Speaker 12: but uh, people who were practicing Satanism literally chopping heads
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  Speaker 12: off of chickens and sacrificing them to certain demons of
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  Speaker 12: the Croatia.
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  Speaker 2: And it works every time, you know.
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  Speaker 12: So, I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and say
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  Speaker 12: that I would ever do such a thing. I only
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  Speaker 12: like to dabble in sex magic personally.
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  Speaker 13: Oh, for the love of fuck, Yeah, that's why he
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  Speaker 13: does it. Sex magic is a whole other thing to do.
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  Speaker 13: You do you really, Jonathan, do you really? I mean
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  Speaker 13: I may have dabbled times. You're like, actually, everybody's.
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  Speaker 12: Gonna be doing it anyways, if you really think about it.
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  Speaker 12: It's just more of a subconscious kind of programming. So
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  Speaker 12: instead of allowing you know, if you're somebody that, uh
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  Speaker 12: I don't want to get too graphic here, but if
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  Speaker 12: you're somebody that likes to watch a lot of porn,
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  Speaker 12: then you're already doing that anyway.
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, the suckypist has got you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're only just feeding the industry.
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  Speaker 9: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 7: This is like a control burn theory. You're it's gonna
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  Speaker 7: happen anyway, We're gonna make it, make sure it's controlled.
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  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I mean literally, it's it's actually really easy.
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  Speaker 12: I didn't plan on talking about sex magic today, but essentially,
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  Speaker 12: literally you just think about whatever you're trying to manifest
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  Speaker 12: as you come up on your orgasm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 9: That's a typical.
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  Speaker 8: Like even sigil magic they tell you that, Yeah, if
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  Speaker 8: you're using sexual whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh well I'm a Christian.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, good one.
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  Speaker 2: But like I said, we come from very different backgrounds
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  Speaker 2: and different perspectives.
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  Speaker 11: But that kind of makes the show what it is.
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  Speaker 9: Oh he's like I'll just take away for a glass
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  Speaker 9: of wine and I'm good. Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean we don't always agree on a lot, honestly, but
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  Speaker 2: they are like the key things we can agree on. Right.
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  Speaker 2: We can agree whenever we're talking about some government agency
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  Speaker 2: that's fucking us. We couldn't agree whenever this group is
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  Speaker 2: using some sort of esoteric black magic. They're not doing
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  Speaker 2: it to better mankind. They're doing it to better themselves.
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  Speaker 2: And it's that's what I'm saying. It's almost because of
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  Speaker 2: our differences that makes the cult of conspiracy what it is.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 9: No, No, that's great, No, for sure.
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  Speaker 8: I mean that's that's say the same thing with what's
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  Speaker 8: going on on the occult rejects.
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  Speaker 9: Everybody different angles, everybody has their own like little thing
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  Speaker 9: and it works out amazing.
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  Speaker 8: But no, no, sorry, I didn't mean to like go
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  Speaker 8: off on that and like like put you on the spot.
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  Speaker 9: I was just when I heard that, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 9: oh shit, okay, let's ask him.
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  Speaker 8: So your show man, where the get No, No, when
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  Speaker 8: he hit sex magic, I think most people just you know,
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  Speaker 8: come to whatever.
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  Speaker 9: So I was just interested to whatever.
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  Speaker 12: Uh, it's just like rituals all rituals. Rituals are is
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  Speaker 12: just like things that you regularly do on a daily
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  Speaker 12: basis anyway, like brushing your teeth.
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  Speaker 9: I was gonna say, making a couple of uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: my black wolf here in the morning, very ritualistic.
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  Speaker 8: H So, yes, guys, Dudley Town, we're gonna talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get pretty wild.
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  Speaker 12: We covered this a few months ago, and uh, the
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  Speaker 12: rabbit hole is quite deep and we found something that, uh,
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  Speaker 12: to be honest, only sounds like it could come from
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  Speaker 12: a Hansel and Gretel movie, maybe a Blair Witch Project movie.
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  Speaker 12: And strikingly enough, they kind of ring together if you
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  Speaker 12: listen to the story of Dudley Town.
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  Speaker 11: So it's gonna get pretty wild, dude.
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  Speaker 12: There's gonna be a lot of weird like strange synchronicities
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  Speaker 12: and everything all throughout this It's gonna get a little spooky.
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  Speaker 12: So don't listen to this before bedtime.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, and I should also make this mention now for
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  Speaker 2: anybody who's questioning the validity of this story right to
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  Speaker 2: make it sound like it's it's just a creepy pasta.
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  Speaker 11: It's one of those Internet things.
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  Speaker 2: Keep in mind that's to this day if you go
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  Speaker 2: near the grounds of the Dark Entrance Forest on the
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  Speaker 2: way to Dudley Town and you're caught, you get thrown
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  Speaker 2: in jail, no questions asked.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, this is still to this day the way it is.
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  Speaker 2: Look, they have highway patrol that go around this area
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  Speaker 2: looking for stragglers who try to make their way into
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  Speaker 2: this town. It is forbidden by all parties still currently today.
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  Speaker 8: I did find that I can justify I when I
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  Speaker 8: scram across that, I was like, obviously, must not be
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  Speaker 8: all bullshit because they won't even let you into the
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  Speaker 8: fucking place.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Well, that whole area is kind of creepy. It's all
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  Speaker 7: got of a very enemy, sleepy hollow. New York's not
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  Speaker 7: far away, but that's kind a very sleepy hollow vibe
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  Speaker 7: through there. I actually I hail from Fairfield County, Connecticut,
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  Speaker 7: just just south of Witchfield County there.
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  Speaker 11: Okay, Oh, so you're ready to remember.
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  Speaker 6: Those spooky regions if you will.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, Fairfield's one of those witch trial places.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Fairfields a lot of things, yes, sir, It's home
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  Speaker 7: to a lot of It's basically a den of iniquity,
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  Speaker 7: kind of like Westchester County, New York.
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  Speaker 6: If you ask me. But fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: But okay, So you growing up in and around that area,
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  Speaker 2: you heard about this story or the dark Entry Forest
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  Speaker 2: in all of this or was this still kind of
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  Speaker 2: one of those folklorish things that most people don't know about.
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  Speaker 6: No, I definitely heard about it.
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  Speaker 7: I moved away from there as a child, and but
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  Speaker 7: I have my family goes back to the founding.
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  Speaker 6: Of that area.
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  Speaker 7: So I have a lot of family up in that region,
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  Speaker 7: you know, extended families and whatnot. So no, I mean
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  Speaker 7: it's something, folks, it's it's common folklore in the area.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, all right, So it basically starts.
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  Speaker 12: Dudley Town was settled in the mid seventeen hundreds by
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  Speaker 12: a handful of families, including the infamous Dudley family. It
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  Speaker 12: was tucked away in the woods of Cornwall, Connecticut. The
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  Speaker 12: land was rocky, the soil was infertile, and the isolation intense.
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  Speaker 12: Farming failed, people struggled. One by one, families began to
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  Speaker 12: either die off or disappear. The town was eventually abandoned,
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  Speaker 12: leaving behind nothing but crumbling stone foundations and overgrown force trails.
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  Speaker 12: But the legend didn't die. It only grew and that's
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  Speaker 12: when the rumors of a curse began to spread. So
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  Speaker 12: that's really where it all started, back in the seventeen hundreds,
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  Speaker 12: and allegedly it had something to do with the Dudley
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  Speaker 12: family coming in there and settling, and it gets pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 12: So whenever we talk about the curses. According to one
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  Speaker 12: version of the legend, the so called Dudley curse began
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  Speaker 12: in fifteen ten with when Edmund Dudley, an English nobleman,
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  Speaker 12: was executed for treason. His bloodline, it said, was cursed
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  Speaker 12: from that moment on. Supposedly, his descendants fled to the
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  Speaker 12: New world and unknowingly brought the darkness with them to
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  Speaker 12: a place that would eventually become Dudley Town. Now here's
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  Speaker 12: the thing. So historian like Reverend Gary Dudley have tried
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  Speaker 12: to debunk this curse. He claims that there's no genealogical
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  Speaker 12: link between the Connecticut Dudley's and the doomed English trader.
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  Speaker 12: But if that's true, then how do we explain the
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  Speaker 12: wild lists of madness and death and mystery that we're
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  Speaker 12: about to get into. So there's a bunch of really
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  Speaker 12: strange things that happened in Dudley Town, which kind of
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  Speaker 12: started all of the lore and a lot of the myth.
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  Speaker 12: The first one is is that there was this general
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  Speaker 12: Herman Swift.
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  Speaker 11: He was living in Dudleyville.
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  Speaker 12: His wife was struck by lightning and died on their
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  Speaker 12: front porch, and then he reportedly lost his mind shortly
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  Speaker 12: after and died. If people don't know whether he wandered
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  Speaker 12: into the forest or what. It's kind of unknown how
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  Speaker 12: he died, but he I guess he went mad.
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  Speaker 2: Uh give the distinction. Also, there are countless stories of
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  Speaker 2: people who just like decided to walk into the woods
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  Speaker 2: and were never seen again. Now, like so many that
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  Speaker 2: we can't even like keep a record of how many
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  Speaker 2: there are. But you'll notice that as these stories gone,
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  Speaker 2: that's a reoccurring theme of like no one really knows,
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  Speaker 2: but it's believed they just wandered into the forest alone
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  Speaker 2: and was never seen again. This town kind of has
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  Speaker 2: that stigma with it it do. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: the suicide forest over there in was that Japan? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: in Japan?
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  Speaker 9: That shit is crazy that place.
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  Speaker 2: It is. Indeed. Now the other thing too, they're saying
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  Speaker 2: that it may have come from the Dudley Curse. From England.
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  Speaker 2: There are some that believe that it was because of
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  Speaker 2: a Native American burial ground that they didn't know.
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  Speaker 11: That they had settled upon.
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  Speaker 2: Some believe that it's because of the witch trials that
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  Speaker 2: took place with the Puritan movement. There's so many hypotheticals,
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  Speaker 2: but nothing that we can absolutely concrete nailed down to
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  Speaker 2: be the reason for the curse. But everybody can at
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  Speaker 2: least agree that there is something cursed about this place.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, are the dudleyst like elite family or anything like?
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  Speaker 3: Did they come over on like the Mayflower like all
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the elite fucks with all the weird
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  Speaker 3: curses and shit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, it says that he was a noblemen. Though
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  Speaker 2: he was a nobleman, but I mean, we don't know
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  Speaker 2: to what level. I'm sure we could look at the
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  Speaker 2: English records and see. I don't think he was an
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  Speaker 2: earl or something of like the upper echelon of elites.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he had a fiefdom necessarily. He was
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  Speaker 2: probably a lower level Sir Dudley.
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  Speaker 1: Right, like your average scumbag.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of right. But they settled the town in the
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  Speaker 2: seventeen forties, so this is pre this is colonial America,
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  Speaker 2: but it was pre Decoration of Independence and all of that.
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  Speaker 11: It was still British colonies, all these things.
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  Speaker 2: And it would make sense if it was a family
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  Speaker 2: of bridge of what's the word I'm looking for, dishonored
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  Speaker 2: British noblemens that came to a new place to try
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  Speaker 2: to re establish themselves and make, you know, make their way,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak.
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  Speaker 11: And that's a story that we hear recurring.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the people that were not exiled from
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  Speaker 2: England but saw no future of advancement there. It would
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  Speaker 2: make sense that they would come over here and set
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  Speaker 2: up a land of some type, a farm of some type,
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  Speaker 2: to try to make more advancement for their bloodline. This
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: is this is not an unprecedented occurrence. But for them
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: to go into the absolute sticks, this town, especially in
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: the seventeen forties, it's not like it was near some
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: sort of a bustling metropolis. It was in the middle
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: of the sticks, like forty miles away from any other
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: little village of any type. And I mean, seventeen forties
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: forty miles is a lot different than twenty twenty five
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: forty miles, you know what I'm saying here, it's a
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: it's a little drive away. Back then, that was a
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: full day or two's journey to make it from point
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: A to point B. So they set up with the
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: intention of it being off the beaten path and where nobody.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Not nobody could find it, but you would have to
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: know where to go in order to find it, you
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 16:36
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it's and actually it was a it was
• 16:38
  Speaker 12: a Dudley curse. So whenever Edmund Dudley came over in
• 16:42
  Speaker 12: fifteen ten, all this crazy shit didn't really start happening
• 16:46
  Speaker 12: in Dudley Town until the seventeen hundreds, so it's almost
• 16:49
  Speaker 12: like a bloodline kind of curse.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: As far as these bloodlines, you're all mentioned in the
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: nobility class of some of these folks where.
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: They came from.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: That swift fella and many folks that settled Litchfield County
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: as a result of getting land warrants from a service
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: service in the Revolutionary War. That swift Fellow was a
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: close associate of Washington. He was a colonel out of
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: the Connecticut chapter that of the secret society that started
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: this country, the Society of the Cincinnati. So these are
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: some people that are into some not only a cult stuff,
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: they're into some.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: Power stuff too.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: So oh dude, So just a note.
• 17:23
  Speaker 12: And his wife is the one that was struck by
• 17:25
  Speaker 12: lightning and then he went crazy.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: So just going on here.
• 17:29
  Speaker 12: So another story is a man whose entire family died,
• 17:33
  Speaker 12: some to disease, some in a fire, wandered into a
• 17:36
  Speaker 12: forest and was never seen again. I guess the ones
• 17:38
  Speaker 12: that didn't die in the fire. Another story is Mary
• 17:42
  Speaker 12: Cheney and Harriet Clark both committed suicide, and in Clark's case,
• 17:47
  Speaker 12: she claimed to see demons in the forest beforehand.
• 17:51
  Speaker 11: So there's that.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Nobody likes that kind of shit.
• 17:55
  Speaker 12: But as another man died during a barn raising under
• 18:00
  Speaker 12: mysterious circumstances and some people believe that it was murder,
• 18:03
  Speaker 12: these are kind of just the spark notes that we're
• 18:04
  Speaker 12: going to dive.
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: Into more than that. Was a real barm burner of
• 18:07
  Speaker 9: that one off.
• 18:11
  Speaker 12: So even visitors today report feelings of dread, nausea, and
• 18:15
  Speaker 12: electrical interference. Some say that they've seen shadowy figures or
• 18:19
  Speaker 12: creatures in the trees even nowadays. So yeah, and also
• 18:24
  Speaker 12: probably the craziest, most wild, mysterious part about the whole
• 18:28
  Speaker 12: thing is that if it wasn't so mysterious and lower
• 18:33
  Speaker 12: filled and mythological damn near to this point, then why
• 18:37
  Speaker 12: is it that whenever you go to Dudley Town to
• 18:39
  Speaker 12: this day you don't hear any birds, You don't hear
• 18:42
  Speaker 12: any bugs. It is complete silence when you walk into
• 18:45
  Speaker 12: the forest.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: There's tons of YouTube videos of this, by the way,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: people that although yes it's prohibited, of course because YouTubers
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: be YouTube in, they get out there with their cameras
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and they show all of the prohibited signs, no trespassing,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: all that. The second they stepped over the gate and
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: get into what was once the road to Dudley Town,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you could see the dilapidated slabs of what was once houses,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the cobblestone, uh you know, structure of some type that
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: was once a chimney probably is dead silent in the mid.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Is the what is the stated reason for the abandonment
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: and prohibition of the town.
• 19:21
  Speaker 12: So it had a lot to do with the land
• 19:25
  Speaker 12: being infertile, and then something to do with there just
• 19:28
  Speaker 12: wasn't very many jobs there, so a lot of people
• 19:31
  Speaker 12: got up and left. I think that originally it may
• 19:33
  Speaker 12: have been some kind of don't quote me on this.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: It's been a while, but some kind of coal.
• 19:37
  Speaker 12: Mine or something there that eventually dried up or something
• 19:41
  Speaker 12: like that. I know that a lot of people moved
• 19:42
  Speaker 12: there and then out of nowhere, everybody either died off
• 19:46
  Speaker 12: or left.
• 19:47
  Speaker 11: And Dudley Town is really not that big.
• 19:49
  Speaker 12: It's it's barely even it's legally not even a town, like,
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: it's so small it's essentially just a giant neighborhood. And
• 19:57
  Speaker 12: and so yeah, it's uh, it's got a lot weird
• 20:00
  Speaker 12: shit going on with it, but just moving on into it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: As far as the paranormal kind of stuff, So paranormal
• 20:06
  Speaker 12: investigators say that Dudley Town is a dead zone, a
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: place where energies don't just linger, they feed. Some even
• 20:13
  Speaker 12: claim that there's a dimensional portal in the forest.
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: I was going to say that because of the silence,
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: I was going to bring that up. I was going
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: to bring that.
• 20:20
  Speaker 12: You hear that a lot, especially with the UFO kind
• 20:22
  Speaker 12: of stuff. It gets really quiet right before something happens.
• 20:26
  Speaker 12: So yeah, some people claim demonic entities, time slips, hallucinations.
• 20:31
  Speaker 12: It's got all the ingredients of something much deeper than
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: just a ghost story. So also, despite being completely abandoned.
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: The land is now owned by a private group called
• 20:41
  Speaker 12: the Dark Entry Forest Association. They've closed it off to
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: the public and don't allow any visitors. And their reason,
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: they say, is because they want to preserve the land
• 20:51
  Speaker 12: from vandalism.
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: So that is something that they do have.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: You have skids basically that will try to use the
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: abandoned houses in Dudley Town in the old the woods
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: where nobody's going to fuck with them, and they use
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: that as a spot to squat and do drugs and
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: things like that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 11: So there have been vandalism issues.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: In the past. However, none of that makes sense as
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: far as why it is that heavily guarded and that
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: heavily no trespassing and actual jail time associated, Like it's
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: not even like your first time caught. There's a fine
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: first time caught, you're getting slapped and thrown in. That
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: makes no sense out loud as to why it's that
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: heavily watched.
• 21:27
  Speaker 12: Well, and there's not even any like protected insects or
• 21:29
  Speaker 12: protected wildlife or anything in there. So the fact that
• 21:32
  Speaker 12: this private group would just buy it and then gated
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: off from everybody to even heer, it's like there's got
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: to be some weird shit going on there, especially if
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: there's demonic entities and hallucinations and there could be some
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: kind of portals and shit, could it be an alien
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: kind of hot spot? And we're gonna get to a
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: little bit as we go down farther as to what
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: else it very well could be.
• 21:55
  Speaker 11: What grounds are is it built on? And dude, so listen.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: It would also make sense to me if the land
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: was dangerous, right, if the houses were barely stood up,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: and if they didn't want someone going in there and
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: knocking the house down on top of them, and it
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: was for public safety. There is no structures that are
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: currently standing that would be an issue in that regard.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: It's none of the official narrative as to why no
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: one can go there actually makes sense out loud. But again,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: this is in the Dark Entry Forest, So the Dark
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Entry Forest Association has bought it and it's privately owned,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: and they said no one can go in there. If
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, Jonathan, are we getting to the last
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: family to own in the nineteen twenties? We will eventually? Okay?
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this place for like high love of radiation or
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: anything that would make people go like batshit or something
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 12: Well, the people that go there like ghost hunting, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: you know, you got to sneak in because the cops,
• 22:52
  Speaker 12: I guess are are watching it like very intensely. But
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: I guess if you can sneak in, what happens is
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: those what are they like EMF readers or something like that,
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: starts spiking like crazy, like whenever you go to a
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: haunted house.
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: So there's got to be something going on in there.
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: Don't I don't recommend messing with those Connecticut State troopers.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: Those boys are a little bit DEMENSI if you ask
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: me there the oh man, you ain't kidding, Yeah, yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: But so what was the word on the street in
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: between the Revolutionary War period of General Swift and the
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: nineteen twenties when the Dark Entry Forest incorporated folks moved in,
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: What was the what was the word around town there?
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: Because I mean, obviously was it's not that densely populated,
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: but obviously more folks.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: Moved into the region during that time.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: So it's been off and on populated by different families,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: but it's not it's never been a bustling metropolis. Right.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: There is one story of a Civil War Colonel if
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. Who After the Civil War Union guy,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: of course, he goes up and settles in this town.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: He's sitting on his porch. Lightning strikes through his porch
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and kills his wife. Multiple light strikes have killed people
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: in this place. Multiple people have wandered off into the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: woods to this place. So it's like basically, anybody who
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: tries to live a life there just has ship happened
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: to them.
• 24:09
  Speaker 11: It's it's insane.
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: I would I would question the lightning strikes, actually question well,
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: what's going on.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: Any of this?
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: So I like, we're all right, because I mean, this
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: is an area where this group, the society of Cincinnati
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: would populate, Like I said, General Swift there and these
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: that group is into some weird stuff.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: If you ask me.
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: About what this area was, it involved at all in
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: the French Indian War. Chance was an integral.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: We're about to get to what You're good.
• 24:45
  Speaker 12: Yeah, there, because there's a certain you know, Indian tribal
• 24:49
  Speaker 12: nation that is there called the Shaktag tribal nation, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 12: they're indigenous to the who. Satonic Valley in Connecticut possesses
• 24:58
  Speaker 12: a rich tapestry of tradition and stories passed down through generations.
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: One notable narrative is the Firefox story, which offers insights
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: into the tribe's cultural heritage. So I actually I brought
• 25:08
  Speaker 12: a lot of these to the table because they they're
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: said to that that maybe the Shakta Goak or Shakta Goki,
• 25:15
  Speaker 12: I don't know exactly how to say it, but they
• 25:16
  Speaker 12: were there before a lot of this colonialism really started
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: to go down, and they have some wild shit with them.
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: So obviously Native Americans, they're into rituals and ceremonies and
• 25:28
  Speaker 12: offering to spirits and medicine and spiritual healing and burial practices,
• 25:33
  Speaker 12: and it's fucking it's pretty wild. So whenever you see
• 25:37
  Speaker 12: that literally this is some of the land that Dudley
• 25:40
  Speaker 12: Town was literally built on top of, you know, maybe
• 25:42
  Speaker 12: a lot of those spirits are kind of just lingering
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: around there, and maybe that's that's why a lot of
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: the stuff goes on. And I did want to bring
• 25:49
  Speaker 12: up where was it there's a oh, okay, so I'm
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: kind of jumping all over the place right now. But
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: because we're talking about the natives, so they have this
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: thing and it's not just with the shaktag tribe in Connecticut,
• 26:04
  Speaker 12: but they have this thing called a spiritual withdrawal. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: so in many Native traditions, the land is sacred because
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: the spirits of ancestors dwell there. If the land was
• 26:13
  Speaker 12: taken violently or desecrated, elders or spiritual leaders might withdraw
• 26:18
  Speaker 12: their blessings, essentially abandoning the spirits or asking them to
• 26:22
  Speaker 12: go quiet. This could lead to a land becoming spiritually
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: hollow or even hostile. Such land might be described as
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: feeling dead, heavy, cursed, no animals, no growth, eerie silence.
• 26:34
  Speaker 12: It fucking lines up right, it does. And this is
• 26:37
  Speaker 12: not unprecedented.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: By the way, different tribes have different beliefs as far
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: as their connection to the land. Right we see how
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: west these native tribes that would torture enemy tribesmen or
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: something along these lines, they were very meticulous not to
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: spill an excess of blood because they truly believe that
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: once the earth takes in so much blood, it gains
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a thirst force. Right, So they absolutely believe that the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: earth itself has a spiritual nature that humans can affect
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: with what we do. So if all of these elders
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: remove their medicine and remove their spirit from a land.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: There are some cases where, like Jonathan said, it might
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: be hollow and spirit lists, but something's got to fill
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: that void, right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 11: That is just the way that life works.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: And so with that empty void, unless some other people
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of a good spirit come and fill the land with it,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: something bad will fill the space. And this is why
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: we have possibly some of the curses that are associated
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: with this. Now. To answer your question, I don't think
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: there's any reference to this spot itself being implemented in
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the French and Indian War. However, the Shaktagoat tribe was
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: absolutely a part of the French and Indian War, if
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. They became a part of the Iroquois
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: confederacy later on. I think they share a language family
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: with them, so they absolutely were a part of it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: But I don't know for sure if Dudley Town was
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: like in the mix of it or not.
• 27:57
  Speaker 12: Okay, thank you, yes them so uh So, I do
• 28:02
  Speaker 12: want to get to a little bit more of that,
• 28:03
  Speaker 12: and of course the trials and all that kind of stuff,
• 28:05
  Speaker 12: but I kind of wanted to tie my own theory
• 28:07
  Speaker 12: into this. And I know that you know, whenever you're
• 28:09
  Speaker 12: talking about the Brothers Grim and Hanseling Gretel and all
• 28:12
  Speaker 12: that shit that was just stories. But you know, as
• 28:15
  Speaker 12: they say, typical people who write those stories said that,
• 28:19
  Speaker 12: you know, they.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Don't even they don't even know where they got it from.
• 28:22
  Speaker 12: It almost just came to them out of the ether, right,
• 28:25
  Speaker 12: And and so they call what is it called, like
• 28:27
  Speaker 12: a magic writing or striving divination. It's some kind of
• 28:34
  Speaker 12: different automatic writing, automatic writing, that's it. Yeah, And they
• 28:39
  Speaker 12: all say that, you know, it just came to me.
• 28:40
  Speaker 12: And I just started writing and the story came to me.
• 28:43
  Speaker 12: So could it be the ether was already in the air.
• 28:45
  Speaker 12: Maybe they kind of siphoned it out, decided to put
• 28:47
  Speaker 12: pen to paper. And so that's kind of how my
• 28:49
  Speaker 12: mind works. So as far as you know, some of
• 28:52
  Speaker 12: the some of the things that kind of match up here,
• 28:56
  Speaker 12: as far as Hansel and Gretel, so I have so
• 29:00
  Speaker 12: all right, So the Hansel and Gretel story, it also
• 29:03
  Speaker 12: talks about a dense, silent forest where people vanish. It
• 29:06
  Speaker 12: talks about cursed land hid hidden deep in the woods,
• 29:10
  Speaker 12: where innocent travelers stumble into something unholy, the crumbling remains
• 29:14
  Speaker 12: of a house, or in this case, an entire village,
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: where lives were devoured not by witches, but by something
• 29:20
  Speaker 12: far more ancient. So if Hansel and Gretel were real kids,
• 29:23
  Speaker 12: Dudley Town is exactly the kind of place that they'd
• 29:25
  Speaker 12: get lost in and never come back from. So just
• 29:28
  Speaker 12: want to throw that out there, you know, it tickles
• 29:30
  Speaker 12: your fantasy fancy and get really weird. So anyway, getting
• 29:36
  Speaker 12: into it as far as the Connecticut witch trials. So,
• 29:41
  Speaker 12: while in Dudley Town, located in Cornwall, Connecticut, it's renowned
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: for its eerie legends and tales of cursings curses, there
• 29:48
  Speaker 12: is no documented evidence directly linking it to historical witch
• 29:51
  Speaker 12: trials or accusations of witchcraft. However, the area's haunted reputation
• 29:56
  Speaker 12: stems from more stories of curses, mysterious deaths, and paranorm
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: wax rather than any recorded witchcraft persecutions. However, the broader
• 30:04
  Speaker 12: region of Connecticut has a notable here history of witch
• 30:08
  Speaker 12: trials that predates the infamous Salem events. So it's going
• 30:12
  Speaker 12: to get into a couple of a couple of towns
• 30:16
  Speaker 12: and or a couple of cities.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I think, oh my god, you're not too terribly far
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: away from Dudley Town as well, which leads us to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: another possible theory.
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Puritan movement that all sixteen hundred, So that
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: does predate Dudley Town allegedly. But is it crazy to
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: speculate that if these people that were practicing witchcraft in
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: these areas were under persecution when they heard of a
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: new town that's way off in the sticks getting founded,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: is it crazy to think that they might have decided
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to make their way out to this newly formed town,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: to Dudley Town, and just kind of operate their witchcraft
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: super under the radar who knows well.
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: And not only just that, but even the three more
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: notable towns or cities within Connecticut that were not very
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: far away from Dudley Town is Windsor, which is forty
• 31:05
  Speaker 12: four miles away, Hartford is forty four miles away, and
• 31:07
  Speaker 12: then Weathersfield is forty eight miles away.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 31:12
  Speaker 12: So, however, the broader region of Connecticut has a notable
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: history of witch trials. It predates the Salem events, as
• 31:20
  Speaker 12: I said, and so the early beginnings. So Connecticut was
• 31:24
  Speaker 12: the site of the first large scale witch trials and
• 31:27
  Speaker 12: American colonies, occurring between sixteen forty seven and sixteen sixty three,
• 31:31
  Speaker 12: nearly three decades before the Salem witch Trials. The first
• 31:34
  Speaker 12: person executed for witch draft in America was Alice Young
• 31:39
  Speaker 12: of Windsor, Connecticut, who was hanged in May of sixteen
• 31:42
  Speaker 12: forty seven. The extent of the trials, so throughout the period,
• 31:46
  Speaker 12: Connecticut indicted thirty four individuals for witchcraft, resulting in eleven executions.
• 31:52
  Speaker 12: These trials were characterized by reliance on spectral evidence and
• 31:55
  Speaker 12: intense interrogator interrogations. Spectral evidence that you're a witch that yeah, you.
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: Know something, Uh, I was just wondering about with this situation.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: My opinion with the saale on witch trials, even going
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: by things that like I know, uh, run from Wicked
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: Planet has told me and just from like stuff that
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: researched in it, my opinion, I do think some of
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: the people pointing the fingers were actually, if anything, the
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: real witches, and it was a land grab because they
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: wanted the property that the people were living on that
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: they were making the accusations. Sure, so, like did you
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: actually kind of maybe take a look at the properties
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: that these people were blamed for being witchcraft, uh, you
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: know into witchcraft, like where it was where they lived
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: to see if there.
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: Was any significance. I know that might be like a
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: wild thing to even think of, you know, I'm just
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: asking them.
• 32:45
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's actually pretty difficult to find a lot of
• 32:48
  Speaker 12: information on this, Like we found as much as we could,
• 32:51
  Speaker 12: but a lot of it is kind of like shrouded
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: in mystery. Now, I'm sure if you go to like
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: the county courthouses, maybe there's some shit going on in there.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: But I guess, like what I'm what I was, I
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: guess what I'm trying to just started like it's what
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: I was.
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: Guess.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: What I'm just trying to, like really get at is
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: like I'm wondering if you had a cultists that understood
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: there was something up with that area, and they were
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: accusing people that property that was the interest of them.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: It's very possible, right, But like we said, Dudley Town
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: itself on record has no witch trials that took place.
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, even.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Forty four miles and forty eight miles away. But that's
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: my point, right, If these witches were being persecuted in
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: their villages and their towns, it would make sense that
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: they might try to go off into the woods and
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: find a new place where there was no sort of
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Puritan execution possibility for them where they could operate completely
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: under the radar. Yeah for sure.
• 33:47
  Speaker 12: So yeah, so getting into some of the notable cases
• 33:50
  Speaker 12: as far as the quote unquote witches that were persecuted.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Mary Johnson.
• 33:56
  Speaker 12: So Mary Johnson was executed in sixteen forty eight, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 12: she was executed after confessing to entering into a compact
• 34:04
  Speaker 12: or packed with the devil, making the marking the earliest
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: such confession in the colonies.
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: So I wonder how they like that. They like, I
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: found this letter underneath a pillow, I mean, and it
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: says I will do anything for it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I won't know what torture led to her admitted, but
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: apparently she entered into a fustian bargain.
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: I mean, you stu people's fingers off to play admit
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: to anything.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: With this lady in particular, there's a whole documentary about
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: her on HBO right now. I just watched it, and
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: it was like she admitted to witchcraft, but it was
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: like she put like Huckleberry jam on somebody's like fucked
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: up leg and that was like which half ship.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Like they were just all it was like one of the.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: Less that's what I was gonna say.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's from the perspective, right, because you mean we're
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: talking about purits and so kind of putting jam on
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: someone's leg, that's the devil had that Maybe lady.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: That was accused, she like her husband was low key
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: trying to like get freak nasty with her, and then
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden she was getting accused of being
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: a witch. And it's like, oh why because your husband
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: was trying to fuck on the DL like come on.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: And that's crazy too, that that sex alone has been
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: used to show signs of satanic influence because if you
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: go far but enough back, a husband's trying to fuck
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: his wife and she says, no, oh well you got
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: the devil in you. Now cut to the nineteen sixties
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and if your wife wanted sex too much, oh well,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: she's getting into a frenzy and we need to hospitalize
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and bottomize her for being a sexual devian. How dare
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: she want to fuck? It's like, bro, what like there
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: is no plushing you you know what I mean? But right, right,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: so that same thing a lot of herbology what we
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: would now call basically I think it's right now twenty
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: five percent of all pharmaceuticals are naturally based and naturally sourced, right,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: we would call that medicine. You're using herbs to remedy
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: stomach pains and migraines and shit like that. Back then,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: what do you mean you're not praying away your headache?
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: Obviously she's a witch.
• 36:02
  Speaker 11: It's like, bro, what what the fuck would here?
• 36:04
  Speaker 12: We couldn't called it Jesus jam and she wouldn't have
• 36:07
  Speaker 12: been hung See.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about right there, because it
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: was like literally some of the stuff that these women
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: were getting accused of, it would be something that nobody
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: would blink an eye at like today. But so with
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: the witch trials, I kind of like take it with
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: the grain of salt because I think whatever was going
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: on in like Dudley Town was way more sinister than
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: somebody like with the witch trials, like rubbing jam on
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: somebody's like bee whole. I mean, she doesn't out to talking.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: About the jam was a lubricant. I think.
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: To that point went to medical practice.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: If you had stomach pains, they would blow tobacco smoke
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: up your asshole. And that's where the phrase comes from,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: blowing smoke up your butt to make you feel good.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: That's a real medical practice that was done around the
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Revolutionary War time frame, right.
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: So yeah, that's that's a high class service these days
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: these datu if you know what I mean.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: But no, exactly that was medical procedure during this day
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: and age. Never mind the fact taking something with a
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: little alkaline and to settle over a cidic stomach. Right,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: that's that's witchcraft. So I agree with you, and we
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: can we all remember reading The Crucible right in school,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: the proctors and all these things. No one actually died
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: as a result of the witchcraft until the Witchfinder General
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: came to town and started murdering people over the old affair, right,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: So I agree with you. A lot of these witch
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: trials that took place were usually people that were trying
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: to settle beefs, and so of course you're gonna throw
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: your neighbor under the bus, especially if it's a neighbor
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: that you want their land or you're jealous of them
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason. Yeah, you'll you'll run it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Up those slaves like that. One of the first ones
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: was like Titchuba. Yeah, she was like a house slave
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: or something, and she was doing the same thing. She
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: was using like African practices to like uh us his
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: remedies and stuff like that, and she got accused of
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: which witchcraft? But I mean, like this Dudley Town stuff
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: like that's legit. Like people are disappearing, people are getting
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: struck by lightning, people are seeing fucking demons in the trees.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: That's stuff that's different. I feel like that's a lot
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: crazier than some. Like I said, before the witch trials,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if how creepy those really already were.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: But isn't it interesting with the witch go ahead?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, to your point, in Louisiana, in
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: New Orleans, Okay, in the big famous cathedral in front
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: of Jefferson Square, you had Catholic masses held in that
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: cathedral in the morning, and then Marie Levo would be
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: doing voodoo rituals at the same altar in the evenings.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And that was done for forever. So how wildly drastic
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the world changes in the matter of one hundred years,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent with you?
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I dude to if I made there, Jonathan, to
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: the note of the witch trial, isn't it you know?
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: I understand the malfeasance and the various actors and whatnot.
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: I don't disagree. I do think it's not mutually exclusive, though,
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: Whereas isn't it odd that we see folks major folks
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: in the occult then you know when Sorry and the
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: Witch Trials are essentially figures in the occult scene today,
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: not the least of which Jack Parsons Marvel Jack Parson's.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: Mister gape Lodge himself of the O t O his.
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: Fourth great grandmother was an accused, which his fourth great
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: grandmother Parsons was an accused. Which that's one such example.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: There's many others who else.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: His grandma it was an accused, which fucking Jessica Parker.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: Dude, you're gonna tell me mine?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Not mind you Wait a minute, horse faces great grandmother?
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Right, Witch Trials?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Can we also acknowledge that was the only role where
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: she looked attractive ever period ever? Like five inches of
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: makeup on her? Yeah, horse dude, that.
• 40:01
  Speaker 11: In the corset. I think they did her serious service.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, other than that, she they tried to
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: make her look like an icon in Sex in the City,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: and it's like, y'all stop it stop.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Nobody's buying that ship, dude. And then she dated John F.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Kennedy Junior, Like, what the fuck was he thinking?
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: Come on, they hated dude.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Horse face mcgillicut.
• 40:24
  Speaker 10: He is.
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: Don't talk about him like that. He's a very handsome gentleman, right,
• 40:33
  Speaker 12: She's handsome.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, her great grandma.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Was accused in the witch trials. Just to f YI,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: just thrown that out there.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: You got Joseph's grandfather.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, his great grandfather was was one of the
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: accusers in that business as well. So again, there's a
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: lot of these and George Bush has lineage there as well,
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: so and many folks would claim that he's descended up Curley.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: You know, I'm kind of that mindset. So you know
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: a lot it's weird that you have this occult stuff
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: from then three hundred and four years later almost and
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: you're like, these families are still involved in the same stuff,
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: it seems.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying there's even though these.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: These witch trials are obviously a lot of scare and whatnot,
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: I think there is obviously something going on there, like
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: you know, maybe it is occult is blaming non occultists,
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: you know, you know, to get the heat off of
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: them to some regard.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: Maybe that's it. I'm not sure, but get weird.
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: I Uh, I was tripping balls with somebody one time
• 41:24
  Speaker 12: and we decided to watch Sex in the City. And uh, well,
• 41:28
  Speaker 12: I say we, but it was actually.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Her show to watch while you're tripping balls, like all
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the things watch Fantasia, likely someone.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: Ever watched Sex in the City if I was tripping balls.
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: I mean, I do like your style, sir.
• 41:42
  Speaker 12: It is crazy because legit, like you know, you start
• 41:45
  Speaker 12: seeing all the blurry images and maybe things get a
• 41:48
  Speaker 12: little bit more distinct. Dude, I I like busted out
• 41:51
  Speaker 12: laughing several times just by looking at Sarah Jessica Parker.
• 41:56
  Speaker 12: What the fuck is she trying to full dude? Like
• 41:58
  Speaker 12: you right, you're Jouanna man and what the fuck man?
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: And the big blonde lady too from Police Academy. That's
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: that's a if that ain't to do. That's a big lady.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah trail.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, her features are very large the movie.
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah she was yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I love that movie. Uh Why am I thinking that
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: was Michelle Pfeiffer. That wouldn't her?
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: That was have that look to her before she went
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: full Jessica Parker style.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm thinking probably, uh, the.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Age did not do her well. Yeah, you're right, Dan, she.
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: Used to have a look like that, a very similar
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: look to But yeah, you didn't pay attention to her,
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Michael Jordan Wingspan, I.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Guess it's been a hot minute since I've seen the
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: movie Mannequin two, so I mean, well, also I should say,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they came up with a second
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, it's damn okay.
• 42:53
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so, uh, just to get back into some more
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: of the uh the witchcraft cases. So in sixteen fifty one,
• 42:59
  Speaker 12: Joe and John Carrington, they were a married couple from Weathersfield,
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: and they were both executed for witchcraft along with Catherine
• 43:07
  Speaker 12: Harrison in sixteen sixty nine.
• 43:09
  Speaker 11: She was convicted in Weathersfield.
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: Her case became significant in shaping legal and theological responses
• 43:15
  Speaker 12: to witchcraft in colonial New England. So, while these trials
• 43:19
  Speaker 12: were widespread in towns like Weathersfield, Hartford and Windsor, there
• 43:22
  Speaker 12: is no historical record of witch trials or executions taking
• 43:25
  Speaker 12: place in Cornwall or Dudley Town. The legend surrounding Dudley
• 43:28
  Speaker 12: Town focus more on curses attributed to the Dudley family
• 43:31
  Speaker 12: mysterious illnesses, suicides, and alleged paranormal phenomena. Some narratives suggest
• 43:36
  Speaker 12: that the founders of Dudley Town were descendants of Edmund Dudley,
• 43:39
  Speaker 12: as I said earlier, and so, but they didn't necessarily
• 43:43
  Speaker 12: find a genealogical link. As far as the reverend guy,
• 43:48
  Speaker 12: I guess he was trying to figure it all out.
• 43:49
  Speaker 12: But anyhow, while Connecticut has a rich and complex history
• 43:52
  Speaker 12: of witch trials, Dudley Town's haunted reputation arises from tales
• 43:55
  Speaker 12: of curses and unexplained events rather than documented witchcraft person cusians.
• 44:00
  Speaker 12: So getting back over to it, so that's as far
• 44:03
  Speaker 12: as the witchcraft goes, at least in the surrounding areas.
• 44:06
  Speaker 12: I just want to, you know, throw that in there.
• 44:08
  Speaker 12: Just we're trying to figure out why is this place
• 44:10
  Speaker 12: so haunted? Why is it so dead? Why is it
• 44:12
  Speaker 12: so creepy? And a lot of this stuff is rate
• 44:14
  Speaker 12: in it. They're they're neighboring. I mean, you're talking about
• 44:17
  Speaker 12: forty miles away. Yeah, maybe back then it was more
• 44:19
  Speaker 12: than a hop, skip and a jump, but nowadays you
• 44:21
  Speaker 12: can get there in what you know, an hour. So,
• 44:26
  Speaker 12: but but then you got the Indian burial grounds. As
• 44:30
  Speaker 12: I was saying about the shack to Go tribal nation,
• 44:32
  Speaker 12: and they have this story called the fox fire story.
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: So in this story, a fox yearns to obtain fire
• 44:38
  Speaker 12: and devises a plan to acquire it from a firefly village.
• 44:41
  Speaker 12: The fox fabricates a story about losing his feathers, a
• 44:45
  Speaker 12: fox losing his feathers okay in a fall and borrowing
• 44:49
  Speaker 12: a fur coat from a cedar tree to gain the fireflies.
• 44:52
  Speaker 12: The fireflies trust. The fireflies, believing his tail, welcome him
• 44:56
  Speaker 12: and bestow upon him blueeshell necklaces as tokens of hos hospitality.
• 45:00
  Speaker 12: The fox then attempts to discover the source of their light,
• 45:03
  Speaker 12: leading leading him to the village's burial grounds, where he
• 45:06
  Speaker 12: encounters the glowing form of the deceased sachem these This
• 45:11
  Speaker 12: encounter underscores themes of cunning, curiosity and the consequences of deceit.
• 45:16
  Speaker 12: So as far as this whole thing goes, it's it's
• 45:18
  Speaker 12: just more so about the rituals of deceit and everything,
• 45:21
  Speaker 12: and you know, certain curiosity kind of killing the cat.
• 45:25
  Speaker 12: But this is just one of the stories within the
• 45:27
  Speaker 12: shaktagok Uh tribal nation. So, but as far as rituals,
• 45:31
  Speaker 12: they did have rituals and ceremonies deeply rooted in spirituality, nature, reverence,
• 45:36
  Speaker 12: and seasonal cycles, uh, consistent with many algonquin Uh speaking
• 45:41
  Speaker 12: tribes of the Northeast. So some of the rituals and
• 45:44
  Speaker 12: ceremonies that I wanted to get into as far as this, uh,
• 45:46
  Speaker 12: the these native people were practicing. They they held seasonal
• 45:52
  Speaker 12: ceremonies connected to planting, harvesting, and hunting. I don't think
• 45:55
  Speaker 12: that's too out of the ordinary. They would have ceremonial fires, drumming, singing,
• 46:00
  Speaker 12: and dancing were core parts of these rites. Rituals were
• 46:04
  Speaker 12: often honored. They honored spiritual or spirit beings connected to nature,
• 46:10
  Speaker 12: such as rivers, animals, the moon, et cetera. And then
• 46:13
  Speaker 12: they had the green corn ceremony, which is a late
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: summer harvest ritual observe across many Northeastern tribes likely had
• 46:22
  Speaker 12: a oh, I'm sorry. It symbolized renewal, purification, and community gratitude.
• 46:27
  Speaker 12: So not anything super crazy. As far as rituals and ceremonies,
• 46:31
  Speaker 12: that's that's pretty common, I would say, probably amongst most
• 46:35
  Speaker 12: native tribes back then for sure. But then they would
• 46:39
  Speaker 12: have the offerings, so the offerings to spirits. What they
• 46:42
  Speaker 12: would offer would be food, tobacco, or handmade items to spirits,
• 46:46
  Speaker 12: especially before or after hunts, during illness, or in major
• 46:50
  Speaker 12: life events. These oftering. These offerings were made at sacred
• 46:53
  Speaker 12: spots such as rivers, forest clearings, or burial mounds, not
• 46:57
  Speaker 12: as sacrifices, but as acts of respect and exchange with
• 47:00
  Speaker 12: the spirit world. So the reason I wanted to bring
• 47:03
  Speaker 12: a couple of these up is because we were talking about,
• 47:06
  Speaker 12: you know, if these people really were like kind of
• 47:09
  Speaker 12: misplaced and got kicked out, or maybe they got slaughtered
• 47:12
  Speaker 12: or something like that, could it be that they're the
• 47:15
  Speaker 12: ones that kind of cursed the land. I mean, I'm
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: not saying that. You know, it's inherently evil to have
• 47:20
  Speaker 12: rituals and ceremonies and offerings. That's basically all of human
• 47:24
  Speaker 12: civilization up to a point, right, But they would also
• 47:28
  Speaker 12: have medicine and spiritual healing and all, and and some
• 47:32
  Speaker 12: certain types of burial practices. So yeah, I mean, it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 12: it's not anything too crazy out of the ordinary. But
• 47:39
  Speaker 12: I did want to get to the the Shaktago people
• 47:42
  Speaker 12: how they were they, uh, They were indigenous to this
• 47:45
  Speaker 12: north northwestern part of Connecticut and eastern New York. They
• 47:48
  Speaker 12: experienced significant of people and displacement due to due to
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: European colonization. While there isn't extensive documentation of direct large
• 47:56
  Speaker 12: scale massacres by European settlers, specifically uh targeting the Shaktagke,
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: their history reflects a pattern of displacement, cultural assimilation, pressures,
• 48:06
  Speaker 12: and conflicts that affected many Native American tribes during the
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: colonial period. So you would have such things happen as
• 48:14
  Speaker 12: far as the impact of the European colonization. You would
• 48:18
  Speaker 12: have land encroachment basically, just get your shit taken from
• 48:21
  Speaker 12: you right. Then you would have establishment of reservations. So,
• 48:25
  Speaker 12: in response to land pressures and colonial policies, the Shaktagoki
• 48:29
  Speaker 12: or Gok were among the first native groups in the
• 48:32
  Speaker 12: area to be assigned to reservation. So this confinement disrupted
• 48:36
  Speaker 12: their traditional nomadic and hunting practices. Then you would have
• 48:39
  Speaker 12: certain cultural pressures. So it says missionary efforts aimed at
• 48:43
  Speaker 12: converting Native Americans to Christianity often undermined indigenous cultural practices
• 48:48
  Speaker 12: and beliefs. The Shaktagke, like many tribes, faced pressures to
• 48:52
  Speaker 12: assimilate into European ways of life, leading to a gradual
• 48:56
  Speaker 12: erosion of their traditional customs. So then, oh it, I
• 49:00
  Speaker 12: guess it was. Yeah, it was kind of involved in
• 49:04
  Speaker 12: the French and Indian Wars then, but at first it
• 49:06
  Speaker 12: was actually involved in the in King Phillip's War, which
• 49:09
  Speaker 12: is from yeah, five to seventy eight.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: If anybody doesn't know about the King Phillips War, yeah,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: you know about it because you're from that area, but.
• 49:16
  Speaker 11: Most people outside of the immediate area have never heard
• 49:19
  Speaker 11: of King Phillips War.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: It is a pretty remarkable little slice of pre American
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: American history. Yeah.
• 49:30
  Speaker 12: So as far as King King Phillips War from sixteen
• 49:33
  Speaker 12: seventy one, it.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Was extremely bloody. Some some myself included, might call it
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: damn near genocidal slaughter. Some might call it a massive
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: victory for the European powers. Yeah, it's it's pretty crazy, honestly.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: And the King Philip, by the way, he was a
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: native tribesman that they gave the moniker of King Philip.
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: That wasn't his given name.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: But basically they almode themselves like fully fought to the
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: last man to defend what they called their own and
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: it was not pretty for them or their wives or
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: their children. There is a monument erected at one of
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the battle sites to this day, although unless you know
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: what you're looking at, you would probably never even realize
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: that that's what you're looking at it.
• 50:19
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but that's to this point, right.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: We don't know if it was native curses that made
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Dudley Town so inherently cursed. We don't know if it
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: was because of the witch trials that were going on
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: around this area. We don't know if it's just something
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: within the land like we're talking about, maybe it's a
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: portal of some type. Maybe aliens see it as a
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: hotspot for radioactivity. Like there's no guaranteed, surefire answer to
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: any of it, but there's that little bit of credence
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: for all of it individually.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: So like the ritualism, like what Jonathan was talking about earlier,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: where they made like little sacrifices, doesn't that remind you
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: like not trying to get like way out there. But
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: you know how they say, like there were there's supposed
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: to be like little people or quote unquote fairies and
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: stuff that live in like remote weird.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Woods and forests.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Since you make little offerings to them of like tobacco
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: and like they're supposed to not fuck with you as
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: long as you do that. But it did remind me
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: of that, because like when you talk about like the
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: fairy lore stuff, it's it goes with like interdimensional portals
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: and like dead zones and stuff like that, and these
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: people were making offerings and stuff. It just that's that's
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: kind of what it reminded me of too.
• 51:37
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, and you don't want to keep your house
• 51:38
  Speaker 12: too clean or else Brownie the elf will come in
• 51:41
  Speaker 12: and wreck your shit.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: You ever heard about that?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: All that shit?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, brownies aka leprechauns, depending on which folklore you're reading
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: from what country.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're friends with the Robert the Doll JJ.
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: No way get him out of here. I'm over.
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: They got quaddies up there, and those regions there right,
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: they call their little demon beasts in the in the
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: forest of little elfin creatures puckwodgies.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's the thing you have, the elves
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: and the brownies and the leprechauns. That's scene as more
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: of a Western European story arc, but the native tribes
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: had their own versions of that. So how much of
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: that story and lore came across into the founding of
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Dudley Town from Europe.
• 52:21
  Speaker 11: Who's to say how much of.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: That was already here from the from the native tribes
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: that lived here at that time, how many how many
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: of these stories actually tied in neck and neck? Is
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: that possibly the reason for what's going down in Dudley Town?
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe it has nothing to do with any of the shit, like,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: who actually knows, But like we're someway, it's very interesting
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: to look at the entirety of it full picture for sure.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: For sure, Yeah.
• 52:44
  Speaker 12: They were, so they were kind of They weren't the
• 52:47
  Speaker 12: primary participants in the King Phillips War, but they did
• 52:50
  Speaker 12: suffer from a lot of the aftermath, as many tribes
• 52:53
  Speaker 12: did in the New England area.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: And then the French and Indian.
• 52:59
  Speaker 12: Wars, which you know, obviously was between the French and
• 53:02
  Speaker 12: British colonial interests, they were impacted broadly as well. So
• 53:06
  Speaker 12: you have these wars that are almost forcing these people
• 53:09
  Speaker 12: out and other native people forcing them into reservations and
• 53:14
  Speaker 12: not allowing them.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: To really do what they would naturally do.
• 53:17
  Speaker 12: So they did face obviously migration, so facing continuous pressures,
• 53:23
  Speaker 12: some of them, some of the individuals and families migrated
• 53:26
  Speaker 12: to other regions seeking refuge among other tribes or in
• 53:29
  Speaker 12: less contested areas. Says that they do, they did maintain
• 53:33
  Speaker 12: some kind of resilience though that.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: That there is still.
• 53:38
  Speaker 12: You know, people that are upholding a lot of the
• 53:40
  Speaker 12: memories and a lot of the tribal myths and everything
• 53:43
  Speaker 12: like that.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: But I wanted to.
• 53:45
  Speaker 12: Bring them up, especially if they were going through a
• 53:47
  Speaker 12: lot of the displacement and shit like that. I imagine if
• 53:50
  Speaker 12: you were, you know, they connect spiritually to the land,
• 53:53
  Speaker 12: and if you're being displaced from that land, then maybe
• 53:56
  Speaker 12: you would be prone to have a sort of spiritual withdrawal.
• 53:59
  Speaker 12: But there's actually a couple of them that I did
• 54:01
  Speaker 12: want to get to, such as spirit offerings turned to warnings,
• 54:05
  Speaker 12: so offerings of tobacco feathers or sacred stones could be
• 54:08
  Speaker 12: left at border areas or burial mounds, not as a
• 54:11
  Speaker 12: blessing but a warning. These acted as spiritual stop signs
• 54:14
  Speaker 12: to settlers or trespassers, so entering the land after ignoring
• 54:18
  Speaker 12: those signs could bring illness, madness, or bad luck, very
• 54:22
  Speaker 12: similar to what you're seeing. And and also in some
• 54:26
  Speaker 12: other legends, disrespecting sacred sites, especially especially burial grounds, provoked
• 54:32
  Speaker 12: spirits or guardians to curse intruders, so that would be
• 54:35
  Speaker 12: spirit offerings turned to warnings. So essentially you would have
• 54:39
  Speaker 12: if they were there before and that was their land,
• 54:41
  Speaker 12: they would have these certain spirit offerings to you know,
• 54:44
  Speaker 12: ancestors or you know, the the whatever they were worshiping,
• 54:49
  Speaker 12: and if they were kicked off of that land, then
• 54:52
  Speaker 12: then they change, you know, so no longer they are
• 54:54
  Speaker 12: a spirit offering, but they're almost like a like a
• 54:57
  Speaker 12: spiritual trap in essence, and then they also have an
• 55:01
  Speaker 12: invocation of ancestor spirits or animal guardians. So this is
• 55:04
  Speaker 12: where it's gonna get a little crazy. Uh So, tribal
• 55:07
  Speaker 12: shamans or medicine people called what they would call upon
• 55:11
  Speaker 12: animal spirits or nature guardians to watch over the land.
• 55:15
  Speaker 12: So these beings could in essence protect sacred sites from
• 55:18
  Speaker 12: trespassers that could cause fear hallucinations, disorientation, or aggressive, aggressive
• 55:24
  Speaker 12: encounters for those who enter without permission, and later they
• 55:29
  Speaker 12: would be perceived as monsters or demonic forces by settlers
• 55:33
  Speaker 12: or modern paranormal investigators. So maybe whatever old girl was
• 55:36
  Speaker 12: seeing the demons and all the fucking evil spirits and
• 55:39
  Speaker 12: all that stuff. Could it have been some kind of
• 55:41
  Speaker 12: invocation left over from the natives that were you know, uh,
• 55:45
  Speaker 12: they they had their ancestors or animal guardians watching over them.
• 55:49
  Speaker 12: And this is what it would seem like.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Now, I mean, to a European settler, what would you
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: call this thing in the woods that defies all explanation,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: that's clearly not an animal, but clearly not a person,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: And especially if you're somebody who has some sort of
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: a background in Christendom, something that's unexplained and dark and
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: ominous is clearly demonic forces in and of itself. But
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: you know, it kind of, like we said, it all
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: ties in and it kind of makes sense to paint
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: the tapestry, if you will, of why this town is so,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: for lack of better words, cursed. Yeah.
• 56:21
  Speaker 12: Well, and that's the thing is that, you know, if
• 56:24
  Speaker 12: you were to see a bigfoot or a dog man
• 56:27
  Speaker 12: or you know, a skin walker or something like that,
• 56:29
  Speaker 12: these people probably didn't have any idea about what the
• 56:31
  Speaker 12: fuck that was. You're on the east coast, right, and
• 56:33
  Speaker 12: a lot of that shit's going on way out on
• 56:36
  Speaker 12: the west coast, so maybe they didn't even hear about
• 56:38
  Speaker 12: these kinds of things, if they were even going on
• 56:39
  Speaker 12: back then. I don't know how far back Skinwalker Ranch goes,
• 56:42
  Speaker 12: but yeah, I mean I would probably perceive it as
• 56:45
  Speaker 12: something demonic, especially if you have you know, actual witches
• 56:49
  Speaker 12: that were being hung and executed, just you know a few.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Millennialis for.
• 56:57
  Speaker 12: So, yeah, you'd have the spirit offerings turned to warnings,
• 56:59
  Speaker 12: but then you would also have the invocation of ancestor
• 57:02
  Speaker 12: spirits or animal guardians. But then you would also have
• 57:05
  Speaker 12: the curse through song or ritual. So some oral histories
• 57:09
  Speaker 12: from Algonquian speaking people mentioned songs or rituals that can
• 57:13
  Speaker 12: be performed during mourning or vengeance. These weren't casual curses.
• 57:18
  Speaker 12: They were sacred and rare, but when they were performed,
• 57:21
  Speaker 12: the land would become spiritually locked, cut off from harmony, health,
• 57:25
  Speaker 12: or peace. And these ceremonies often happened after betrayals like
• 57:30
  Speaker 12: broken treaties, massacres, or grave desecration, so that kind of
• 57:35
  Speaker 12: lines up right absolutely absolutely. They also had protection on
• 57:41
  Speaker 12: burial grounds. So one of the strongest taboos in many
• 57:43
  Speaker 12: Native traditions is the disturbance of burial grounds. So it
• 57:46
  Speaker 12: says that if a burial site was desecrated. Spirits of
• 57:49
  Speaker 12: the dead could become restless or vengeful. They might the land.
• 57:54
  Speaker 12: The land might be said to cause madness, infertility, or
• 57:59
  Speaker 12: supernatural occurrent and is. And in many cultures they weren't.
• 58:03
  Speaker 12: These weren't ghosts in the Western sense. They were wounded
• 58:07
  Speaker 12: energies that affected time, memory, and perception. That absolutely hallucinating
• 58:13
  Speaker 12: in a sense. You would think, right, if you're going
• 58:15
  Speaker 12: to hallucinate, that's probably what's going to sort of fade
• 58:18
  Speaker 12: out a little bit.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: And the infertility that we're talking about, it's not just
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: in humans. Right, Whenever a land is barren and nothing
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: grows there anymore, no more agriculture, you can't farm it anymore,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: they basically mean the land is infertile. The native tribes
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: basically put these two in the same conversations. So when
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: we look at Dudley Town and how, yeah, they tried
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: to have farms that operated here, none of them took.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: And it's not like Connecticut is known for having unrich
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: soil by any means. I mean, hell, there's an entire
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: genus of tobacco Connecticut tobacco as a matter of fact,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: that grew there for years, in year centuries that the
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: native tribesmen knew how to cultivate with precision, Yet somehow
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: in Dudley Town they can't get ship to grow. Yeah.
• 59:04
  Speaker 12: Yeah, And that's the thing. It's not like desert area
• 59:07
  Speaker 12: desert or anything like that. I mean, it's it's gonna
• 59:10
  Speaker 12: be raining a lot up there in the northeast.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: So, uh, you know what, this reminds me of that
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: other cursed town, Jonathan. You may have heard of it,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: because I think your family's from out there in like
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Pennsylvania area. But it's that town that's on fire, that's
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: always on fire, that inspired Silent Hill, that curse Wild
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about it, I.
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: Know what you're talking about, the.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Name of it, but it's on fire. It's always on fire, just.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Like coal mine. The coal mines on fire underneath the ground.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: And so they went around and started like drilling a
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: hole to see if the fire is still going. They
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: did that every few miles. But they didn't realize was
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: they were making air holes to keep the fire going. Right, Damn,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: what is the town? I know what you're talking about.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: And it was like the inspiration for Silence.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: But it's like there's these little cursed weird towns like
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: they pop up randomly kind of like all over and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: it's like the same thing as Dudley.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: It's like nobody can live there.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: It's fucked off and it's just weirdness and like creepiness.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: All that makes sense though, Why it's so dangerous because
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: the land is giving way because the coal that was
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: the bedrock of it is burning away and it's falling.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: So like to say that nobody can live there because
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: it's dangerous, that makes sense to me, right, at least
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I could put the pieces together in my head. There's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: nothing like that with Dudley. It's just a town quote
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: unquote town and more like a village in the middle
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: of the woods with nothing around it. So why is
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: it so dangerous? Why can nobody go? And it's there's
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: no out loud. None of the answers giving as far
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: as the official narrative goes, makes any sense unless.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: There's some type of freakish, naturally occurring source of radiation
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: out there. Because the one of the other things that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: it made me think of is if you guys have
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: ever watched the movie Hills Have Eyes.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like all the.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Fucked up, weird people were living in this little village
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: out in the middle of the desert, right, and they
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: were like testing radiation shit on them, and it fucked
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: their faces up and made them like eat their sister.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: But the point is is, like they test out weird
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: radiation shit on people all the time, fucks up the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: whole town. Then nobody can live there. I think a
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: similar thing was going on with like the Diachtlav Pass
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: in Russia, with like some weird radiation shit. They blamed
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: it on Aliens, but there was like a bunch of
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Soviet weirdness. But anyways, there's these little random villages and
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: towns and stuff, and it's like nobody really knows what's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: going on, and it's happening like right under our nose.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that town that you were thinking of in Pennsylvania
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 12: is called Centralia, that's right. That's right, and burning since
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 12: nineteen sixty two, resulting in the town becoming largely abandoned.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 12: The fire, which started in a landfill and spread to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 12: coal mines below, is expected to continue burning for over
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 12: two in fifty years.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: If that I mean, honestly, that's a low estimation by
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: my account.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: Dude, America, even our fires are better than everybody else's
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, come on now, help.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: The whole asceted.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: Occurrences and things going on there makes me think of
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: some kind of geo magnetic or geo energy. And I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: looked at the topography. I don't know if you guys
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: got into it, but it's at fifteen hundred feet and
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: there is a hill there, and actually it's called Dudley
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: Town Hill, so it's.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: Obviously right on the hill.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe amount.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: But it also when you mentioned the burial sites, I
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: believe this may not be true for culture at every time,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: but some of the more higher ups of the people's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: would be buried up high at the top of the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: hill from what I understand. I don't know if that
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: took place all all the time with certainty.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 12: Oh and also as far as the radiation levels, I'm
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 12: just looking. There was an article back in twenty twenty
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 12: by cornwalllive dot com that says mystery as incredibly high
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 12: radiation levels detected in Cornwall, which is where Dudley Town is.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you there's something freaky going on with the radiation.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: There's going to be some motherfuckers coming out.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Of caves with fucked up hills have Ey's faces trying
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: to fuck their sister.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm not even playing.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: I mean, I was going to say, because you mentioned
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 10: Skinwalker Ranch and then you're mentioning what's it called that
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 10: they claimed to have seen things and didn't look normal.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 10: And I looked at up real quick, and I remember,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 10: because of the whole bad thing with the white nose
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: syndrome and the fungus and all that other stuff, there
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 10: are cave systems in northwestern Connecticut that are closed off
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 10: because they're trying to prevent the further transfer of whiteness
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: center anyway, But so there are cave systems in northwest Connecticut,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 10: just as they were in Skinwalker. And so the radiation
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 10: thing would make sense because it would be almost like
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: a direct opening down to the ground. And so when
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 10: another in another episode, we talked about how the earth
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 10: itself emits in certain areas intense I guess off gassing
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: of radiation.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Sure where they're hiding out at in these fucking caves.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: With the radiation, there is an opening to like journey
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: to the center of the earth in Lee Town. And
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: that's why they got that bitch walled off, because if
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: you like literally you could stumble down into a cave
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: and nobody ever seen your ass again, and you're stuck
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: like with Godzilla and fucking calng and shit like Inner
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Earth stuff. They put that in the last one. I'm serious.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: That's a real thing, the hollow shit.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, and there was a conspiracy podcaster on there too.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: I felt very represented.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, So this is the thing. These people would take
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: off into the woods, never be seen again. Do we
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: know what happened to them? Is it possible that they
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: twisted their ankle and they screamed, nobody could hear them,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: and they starved to death. Yes, that there's a greater
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: than zero percent chance of that. Is it equally possible
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: that they happened to wander into a very dense radiation
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: cloud before humans even knew what radiation was, and they
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: just succumbed to their injuries. In that regard that, there's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: so many possibilities and nothing absolutely.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 11: Concrete about it.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: But what we do know for certain is something is
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: so wrong with this town and has been for centuries
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: that nobody can do shit with it.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 12: So just the other day we covered how Cash Bettel
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 12: and fucking Dan Bongino were both saying that Jeffrey Epstein
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 12: did kill himself in the box, so stupid. But what
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 12: we said, what was very interesting as far as that
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 12: story goes, is that the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 12: York City they shut it down whenever Epstein died.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: And that was literally where everybody.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 12: If you got convicted of anything and you were in
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 12: the New York City area, that is where you would go.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 12: And so I find it interesting about how that gets
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 12: shut down and nobody's allowed to go in there. And
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 12: it's almost kind of similar to this whole Dudley Town
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 12: in a way where all right, so you know, big
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 12: names die, and you know, and then nobody's allowed over
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 12: there anymore. And I just find it really strange about it. Dude,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 12: they don't even let anybody go on there, like you
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 12: have to get like super permission.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I think you got to pay them off or something
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 12: I'm thinking about, dude, I'm buying a fucking RV in October,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 12: and I'm just gonna live in RV and I'm just
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 12: gonna travel to all these crazy locations and whenever that happens,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 12: Dudley Town is going to be one of the first
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 12: ones that I go to because I wish a motherfucker
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 12: would you know, just I want to go up in
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 12: there and see what happens.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Like, tell me to get up property.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 12: I will be performing not sex magic, but some kind
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 12: of magic over there.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: And maybe it's an aanst we don't know if that
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: was said. I'll get you a Geiger counter for when
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: you go, just so we can see. I got one, pathetically.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Satan himself then he can get it right,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: like I would be up in there trying to figure
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: it out.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 9: You know what I do wonder about this this property.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: I really wish Ricardo was here because you'd probably be
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 8: able to explain these things that I want to talk.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: About a lot better.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 8: But a lot of things that you had said, I
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 8: might kind of stuck on the lightning And know this
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 8: may sound like silly, but that's something that kind of
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 8: goes along with the other theories that I'm wondering about.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: With the pressure. Uh, if you get lightning, I mean
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 8: that that's gonna there's pressure.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 9: Behind that to create that to happen.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: Now, back in the day, I can't tell you what
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: the contraption was made out of. He was on the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: show A few days ago talking about and he's talked
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: about it before and he's posted about it. There's was
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 8: some sort of contract option that would take a like
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 8: kind of a I don't know if it was four
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 8: hurts or whatever, but it can start to compress it
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: and it would start to cause And this was stuff
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: back in I think, almost like medieval times that was
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: being used as like weapons. But the problem is that
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: you couldn't direct it. But if you're there able to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 8: compress this frequency and it would cause people to either
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 8: hallucinate to the point to where they could possibly kill
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 8: themselves or others, but they.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: Couldn't direct it.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: I know this sounds crazy, but there's actually like scientific
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 8: proof of this shit existing. Now that's compression. Again, you
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 8: have lightning that's from compression. I'm just wondering if there's actually,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: like not saying that that contraption is there, but if
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 8: there's actually like really something going on over there that
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: could be causing people to hallucinate what they think is
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 8: like Bigfoot or whatever the fuck you know it was
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: popular these days. That could be a hallucination. Maybe it's
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 8: not even there because of the area that you're in.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: You're just seeing shit.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I wanted to bring up too, as far as
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 12: lightning involved in witchcraft. For example, So there's these things
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 12: called witch marks and lightning stones. So it says in
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 12: folklore people believe that fulger rights, which are natural glass
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 12: tubes formed when lightning strikes sand, had magical properties. These
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 12: are sometimes used in protection charms or power spells. And similarly,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 12: witch's stones or lightning struck wood, especially oak, were used
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 12: in amulets or wands for added potency. Now I don't
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 12: know if that guy, because he was like a colonel
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 12: or somebody high ranking, so I don't know if he
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 12: was into that.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe his wife was, We don't know.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 12: I mean, what was that Mary Todd Lincoln was was
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 12: doing all the crazy shit in the White House, as
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 12: far as like trying to summon ghosts and spirits and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 12: all that shit too. So I mean, I suggest that
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 12: Hillary Clinton was doing it too, but any of us, right.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: I mean stuff, absolutely sure, absolutely, Look, Harry Potter had
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: a lightning strike on his head that was supposed to
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: be a mark of a hers that was meant to
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: kill him. Let's keep in mind the author of Harry
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Potter used a lot of the grimoires and the Witch's
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Hammer and a lot of her uh spell work, and
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of the backstory to how magic works.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 11: I look, I'm just saying Satan.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't say it. She did. I'm not even trying
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: to be that Christian guy. But at the same time,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: straight from the bitches melted.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she she was definitely into some shit. But I
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: still love Harry Potter. The thing that I was going
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: to say, though, was the the diatlav Pass incident that
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: I brought up earlier that happened in Russia, with how
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: all those people died in a weird way. They tried
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: to blame lightning on that too, So I think that's
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: interesting that it is the that radiation thing and the lightning.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: They said, oh they got they all got struck by
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: ball lightning or some shit like that. And it was like, well,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: why is one guy's face melted off the other guy's
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: wearing the other ones like clothes early summer, missing tongs
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: and eyes and fingers. It's like ball lightning, dude, Like,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: is that really what we're I mean, they it's always
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: like some kind of weird hodgepodge of things.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they say it was a bear that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: attacked him. Or something like that.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a bear. There was an avalanche, sh
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: ball lightning.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which the fact that we are having the conversation
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: of whether ball lightning removed this dude's tongue from his mouth. Also,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: an avalanche removed this guy's eyeballs. The rest of them's fine. Oh,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: by the way, a bear took the carcasses. And it's like,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: you understand out loud, the series of events that would
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: have to take place this is this is like a
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: rom com style series of what the fuck are we
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: talking about here? This is worse than cocaine bear? Yeah,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: the actual official narrative to that incident. Yeah, I actually
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: looked into that excuse the weirdest fever dream and the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: Russian officials are like, nope, this is totally what happened.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: This this is real life right now. It's like, my boy,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: my brother in Christ, what are we talking about right now?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 10: Just a quick in sort of a fun fact. Tolkien
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 10: was neighbors with Schrodinger and C. S. Lewis. Feuds sown.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: Wow like Chronicles of Narnia, guy, yep, I love Chronicles
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: of Narnia.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 9: God.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 11: That was a golden age as far as literature is
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 11: concerned the.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 10: Fact, but the fact that she was friends with Schrodingers.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 10: I mean they must have been discussing quantum stuff, which
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 10: gives rise to a lot of this stuff in the books.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 11: Very possible.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 12: I did want to there was some other like wild stories.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 12: So a lot of this Dudley township is really stepped
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 12: steeped in myth. But it actually it's not necessarily myth.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 12: It's just that it's.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: Old and so.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 12: But there was another one in eighteen seventy two. There
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 12: was this dude named Horace Greeley who was running for president,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 12: and one week before he lost the election, his wife
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 12: hanged herself in Dudley Town, where she had grown up. Yeah,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 12: I mean, buck, I'm just saying, this little ass legit
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 12: fucking neighborhood, not even a town, and all of these
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 12: people are committing suicide, They're getting they're going mad, they're
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 12: getting sick, they're wandering to the forest never to come back.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 12: It's like, dude, what the hell is actually going on?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 12: And just to dove a little bit deeper on that,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 12: doctor William Clark. So in nineteen twenty four, doctor William Clark,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 12: he was a New York cancer specialist. He bought a
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 12: thousand acres on Bald Mountain, part of which belonged to
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 12: Dudley Town, and one summer he went to New York
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 12: for a brief business trip and returned to find his
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 12: wife had gone insane and she spent the rest of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 12: her life in a mental hospital in Dudley Town.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he bought this town. He was a part
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: of the well to do, aristocratic section of New York
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: right now, I mean the state, I mean New York City, Manhattan, Okay.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: He was a very upstanding citizen, well known cancer doctor.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: In the nineteen twenties, he bought Dudley Town with the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: intention of turning it into a country retreat for the
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: the elites of New York to try to get away
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: from the hustle and bustle of the city and go
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: out to like Cabins. He had so many plans of
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: turning this place into a.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 11: Country estate resort for these people.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: He didn't own the town pretty much any time before
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: his family started dying, and then he did nothing with it.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: He left the town, left it untouched until it was
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: bought by the Dark Forest Entry Society, and that's who
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: owns it to this day.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I also wanted to bring up too. There was
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 12: this guy named Nathaniel Carter. His family lived in abiel
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 12: abiel A b I. E. L. Dudley's house, but then
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 12: moved to Binghamton, New York. They built a log cabin,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 12: and one day while Nathaniel was away, natives killed his wife,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 12: captured his three children, and burned his house down.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 11: And then whenever he returned, they killed his ass too.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so wild stuff, but I did want to go
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 12: a little bit farther along that. So as for the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 12: Carter tragedy, which I just brought up, it says Carter
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 12: built a house at the forks of the Delaware Wilderness,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 12: right in the middle of Indian country. And so this
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 12: was I guess beforehand, and his three children survived, and
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 12: his son became a state Supreme Court justice. So I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 12: mean something good came out of there, I guess.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it depends on what laws he passed.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: He might have been a piece of shit, like I
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. I don't know what core
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: cases he presided over. It's possible he was cool. But
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: to your point, basically, nothing good came out of or
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: ever happened in Dudley Town. It was riddle with controversy
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: from its founding till right now.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Is there any reason for the name Dark Entrance to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: the company the thing, or is already doing anything else.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: That's the name of the woods, the dart Entry for
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: it is the actual name of the woods that Dudley
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Town is in.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 12: Well, from what I read, it's actually the name of
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 12: the road that brings you to Dudley Town. So the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 12: Dark Entry Road that leads through the woods. It's literally
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 12: the only road that allows you to get to Dudley Town.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 12: There is no other way to get there. And so
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 12: literally it's called the Dark Entry Road. And then it
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 12: became the Dark Entry Forest, and then it became the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 12: Dark Entry whatever the fuck I called it.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Well, that's not ominous at all, but it does. Like
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: at the very beginning of this episode, I think it
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: was Jonathan or Jacob said that it reminded you of
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: the Oki Kahara Forest in Japan, and legit like it's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: American Oki Kahara Forest. Like when did they name that
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: road the Dark Entrance Road, like fucking recently or like
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: it's always been called that. I mean, they know something's
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: going on, right.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of the Dark Forest in
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: North Germany, right, where the story of Hansel and Gretel
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: came from originally. And I mean there's all kinds of
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: legends and all kinds of lore of monsters that lurk
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: in the dark woods in North Germany, right, So to
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: say that that kind of has some sort of a
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: rhyme or reason possibly to why Dudley Town is this
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: village in the dark entry forest that's so cursed. But
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: it's not even just legends and lore. These deaths are documented,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: not just in the annals of some creepy pasta internet thing,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: and not just some kid's storybook. No, No, there's actual
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: state records of these deaths occurring in this town. So
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there's a little bit of connection. Maybe
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: when you put that much dark kind of mindset into
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: a place, it just manifests itself into such a I
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, I wanted to.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 12: Add a little bit more to it. So as far
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 12: as the guy that didn't end up buying it, Walter Clark,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 12: So he bought his place in nineteen hundred per weekend
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 12: visits talking about his place in Dudley Town, and his
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 12: wife had a chronic disease and couldn't stand the pain,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 12: and then sometime in nineteen eighteen, she committed suicide in
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 12: New York City, but Clark continued to spend country weekends
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 12: at dudley Town. When Clark first arrived, dark Entry Forest
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 12: was just a name. There was no forest and no
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 12: Dark Entry because dudley Town farmers had clear cut the land.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 12: But Clark wanted to change that, so in nineteen twenty four,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 12: he and his friends formed the dark Entry Forest Association
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 12: with the aim of reforesting the land. They hoped to
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 12: run a woodmill and offer recreation to children, so they
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 12: planted thousands of trees, and by the nineteen thirties, a
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 12: New York ski club used trails for skiing, and summer
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 12: camps used them for horseback riding, and visitors would also
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 12: canoe down the Hoosatonic River. However, that ended up dying.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 12: I don't know if they got it was for a
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 12: lack of visitors or because people were going missing, but
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 12: that's actually so. Sometime in the nineteen thirties they ended
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 12: up closing it down to the public and it was
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 12: literally like built for visitors, and for some reason, not
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 12: only do they like close it down, but nobody can
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 12: even get in now, So it makes you almost wonder,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 12: like think about like like national parks and shit, yea,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 12: how people are always going missing and everything, and like
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 12: they built this whole thing up, so it almost makes
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 12: you wonder, like, you know, what's really going on, Like
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 12: why would you, oh yeah, make it so illegal for
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 12: anybody to go there if you literally built it up.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 12: I mean yeah, it was like one hundred years ago,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 12: but to shut it off after only literally they were
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 12: only doing it for like ten years as far as
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 12: like reforesting the whole thing, So it's kind of strange
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 12: how that happened.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: And to me, it's screams cult there, Jonathan, when you're
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 7: saying it like the National park things, Yeah, they are
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: cordoning things off in a very specific fashion. And this
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 7: this property does a butt of state for us actually,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 7: so it is very secluded in that regard as well.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 7: But you know, these things scream cult to me. Said
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 7: that the fella William Clark, right, yeah, and Clark, you
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 7: see you mentioned Horace Greeley who ran against Useless as
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: Green in the eighteen seventy two presidential election and obviously lost.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: So you know, Clark's both Agreeley A Dudley and his
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 7: Clarks go back to the Salem witch trials. So when
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 7: I say Colt, I mean you know these things get
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 7: passed down through the blood lines if you asked me.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean especially whenever you're dealing with like so
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 12: many people are obsessed with their blood lineage.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. I I personally I don't understand it.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 12: I know that you know, blood magic absolutely works, and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 12: and you know, especially it's it's done within a lot
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 12: of the occult and witchcraft and stuff like that. But
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 12: I almost I just wonder, like, so as far as
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 12: the blood, Nick, I wanted to ask you this because
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 12: you're a fellow ocultist, sir, But as far as blood goes,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 12: what do you think is so magical about it? Like
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 12: why do you think that spirits love it or entities
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 12: love it, or you know, demon love it or whatever?
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Like why specifically blood is it? Like just because it's
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: the life force.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 8: I think it's part of the it's part of the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: I guess, the whole God. I don't know how to
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 8: answer this story an easy way. I think blood is
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: what ties spirits into the flesh.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 9: I mean it's part of it.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 8: I think it's part of our original jail cells to
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 8: begin with.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Bleeds can't live without blood, so I could see it
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: being a part of the like you said, Johnathan, possibly
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: the life force, if you will. I don't. I'm not
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: sure if the blood is tied to the soul inherently,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: but I know that a soul can't inhabit a body
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: that is dead and doesn't have blood pumping through it,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: So maybe there's a connection in that regard. I don't know.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: You remember the vampire episode that I did with you
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: guys about the zombies and the vampires, because like even
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: the Native Americans used to do that thing where they
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: like slice their dicks over and over again and like
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: bleed in a bowl and like offer it to the
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: Because it's like Nick was saying, I think it binds
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: the spirits. I think it binds your life force. I mean,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: the life is in the blood, but it's also such
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: a spiritual essence. And I mean, to cut your dick
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: over and over again, I mean, you gotta admit it.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: You got to start chopping some dicks off, right.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 9: Oh well, just the trauma that what's released too.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: They're the whole origual aspect of it.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: Sure. Yeah, So I think the folks that started this
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 7: this country, ye of America, the Society of the Cincinnati,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 7: they very much care about blood lines. One group that
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 7: spa it was an offshoot to them, was the Mormon Church.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: They care about blood lines in DNA, and I think
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 7: a lot of it what they're I mean, they probably
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: have numerous reasons, but I think they're big into like
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 7: genetic memory and like they want to they want to
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 7: pass down stuff specifically within you know, some very very
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 7: narrow trees, if you will, I could believe this.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I do think some some blood stuff might actually
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 8: be a little bit more sigh, instant actual ritual sometimes too.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 7: Well, but I mean that's pretty esoteric, especially they've been
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: doing this for hundreds of years to understand that there
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 7: is some sort of memory passed down through the Yeah.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 9: And also, you're totally right.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: I think this is kind of one of those spots
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: where science and spirituality actually kind.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 11: Of meets in the middle. To be completely honest with you.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: And I mean I use that term and usually, like
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: we brought up earlier talking about like hermeticism or medical
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: practice of using herbs and her bology, right. I think
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: this is one of those times where like that I
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: would consider using the spiritual and the physical world meeting
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: in the middle. Plants, I believe, do have some sort
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: of a spiritual essence to them, and we can also
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: use them for their medicinal properties. I don't think that
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: that's inherently separate from using them for their spiritual properties either. Blood,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: I think is also in the same conversation DNA. While
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: it is a very scientific conversation, I think that there
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: is so much esotericism that is involved with blood, magic,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: blood letting, all of these rituals. I think this is
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: one of those times where it's the blending of the two,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, which I think is also
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: what alchemy was. I think it was the blending of
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: the science and the spiritual, not just one, not just
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: the other, the mixture there of both.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 8: You know, that's that's real. I just wanted to say
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 8: this real quick, and then, you know, sorry to jump in.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 8: I know we're gonna say something the June, uh, just
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 8: to say the science and spirituality an alchemist, as somebody
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: I had just recently covered Robert Flood, Uh, he was
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 8: an alchemist. He was into the occult, but like he
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 8: kind of solidified I think, like e theory on blood
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 8: circulation that like we kind of still go on based
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: on today.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 9: And he actually was.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 8: He even gave us like a thermometer that was used
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 8: with just air and water, and because of that we
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 8: ended up going to what we use today.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 9: So like again, like somebody like that was.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 8: Actually into the heart and he had books where he
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 8: was showing the nervous system, the veins, drawings of inside
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 8: the brain, the eyes.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 9: I mean, these people are into that shit as well.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 10: To answer your question just really quickly. So, the blood
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 10: originates in the bone marrow, which is a side of
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 10: all the stem cells. And so when you look at
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 10: stem cells, you're looking at the complete blueprint of the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 10: entire human being. And so you're looking at plur puting
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 10: and total potent cells. So when you look at that,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 10: you look at all ancestral memory, all of it in
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 10: that area. So the blood holds all the memory.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 12: Interesting, So the spirits are essentially after your heritage to anybody, Yeah.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 9: Or it could be a fee from thousands of years ago.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: I'm glad.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 7: I'm glad we of uh they're experts, Yeah, because my
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: garbage can't do. The explanation was obviously not that gray.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: It is. I think that is an important thing.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, like your immune cells, it contains receptors to all
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 10: the different bacteria, viruses, parasites, and everything that all of
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 10: your ancestors have ever encountered since the beginning of time.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: Wow, you blew my mind with that. That's incredible. I
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: had no fucking idea. That's crazy. Who else was into
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: that shit? Fucking Leonardo da Vinci was really interested in blood,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: in the human anatomy, and I despite what people say,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: he was a heretic, but he was also an occultist.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 8: Yes, so yeah, when I went to the Vatican, it
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 8: was less than a year ago already the lady in
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 8: there said that they acknowledged now that he drew the brain, Yes,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 8: on the ceiling.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 9: They don't dispute that is not a brain though.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: That why I mentioned it is because he was obsessed
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: with the human anatomy and blood, and he was performing
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: autopsies in the basement of the Vatican, which was illegal.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Through the time, but we were letting him do it.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 10: So it was human big up bodies and then perform
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 10: I guess like autopsy. But he was a closeted anatomis
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 10: and physiologist.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you have go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: There's another way to look at sex magic too, but
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: blood magic and specifically and more of a Dooist or
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: Eastern methodology, which is very alchemical and it's about developing,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: just like uh, Star Wars kind of talks about, I
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: forget what the chemical or or contrace.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: This is.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: This is like, this is.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: Our mitochondria, right, and so when really an example of
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: blood magic might be at least for a health aspect,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: is developing ourselves to be functioning at a higher rate,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: and maybe to to Knicks point, it's also allegorical for
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: when our blood has more mitochlorian or what I or
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: the magic is the mitochondria and different chemicals that are,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: you know, enabling electrical flow better. Maybe we can make
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: more spiritual connection beyond that too. So the mitochondria, I
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: think is a real physical aspect of blood magic that
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: we can we can raise right without the dallas. They
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: don't they don't hurt themselves right.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 10: Like blood just and that still be the last thing
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 10: I say is that it is the ability to carry
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 10: h metal and then be conductive and generate electricity throughout
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 10: the body. Right, it's what keeps electrical system aside from
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 10: the neurons and all that other stuff. But if you
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 10: were to look at which is a it looks like
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 10: a Maltese cross. It looks like all of the symbolism,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 10: whether it's the swastika or whatever, it looks like all
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 10: the symbolism of ancient esoteric the heme group that holds
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 10: the iron within the red blood cell. So you see
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 10: it over and over again throughout the blood system.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: We're talking about the blood and how there's a connection
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: to the bones through the marrow and things like this.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: This kind of gives a whole nother light to why
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: so many cultures do bone carvings on the dead and
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: use that as a part of their esoteric practices.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: We think of that because, oh, well bones, it's a
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: rigid thing. They could carve into it easily, and it's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: something that they could pass down sure out loud that
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: makes sense? Or is that a way to do kind
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: of third party blood magic through bones and through rooms
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: and all of these things.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 11: I see the connection one hundred percent.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: I think necromancy serve is that we're talking here.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 11: Oh one thousand percent.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: Brother, as a former Mormon.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 7: I I know what you're talking about, and I think
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 7: that's you're onto something there.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 6: Yep, yepes.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 10: Fire Like. It takes a lot to break down bones.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 10: When you talk about like cremation or whatever. You put
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 10: them in the in the oven, you jack it up
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 10: to five hundred degrees or whatever. When they're done, they
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: still have to pulverize the bones.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's chunks that come out one hundred percent.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 10: Out of the incremation process, so bones endure. That may
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 10: be also another reason why they also do the carvings.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 8: I could see it one hundred percent, you know, real quick,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 8: I just want to say, Ethan, you talked about I
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 8: guess the electricity and the blood and the whole thing
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 8: with like kind of talking about I guess like Star
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 8: Wars going back to the stuff inside their blood if
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 8: you I mean, it could just be a coincidence, But
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 8: if you even think about the dudes at the end,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 8: I mean, those motherfuckers are shooting electricity out of their fingertips.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think he got a lot of his
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: ideas from she related topics, not not even like.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: Generally, but specifically a.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: Lot of the force.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: You know, really, it's very brucelyish.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 12: To, oh, dude, Jacob actually bet me that I couldn't
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 12: learn to harness my chie to be able to move
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 12: things just with my own force. And in a couple
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 12: of weeks we're going out to Florida for Brohemian Grove
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 12: and I'm gonna put on a fucking spectacle for everybody
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 12: over there, and I'm gonna sing Jacob into a believer,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 12: because shun the goddamn believers. Okay, I will move shit
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 12: with my mind like I am a Jedi.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: I'm actually working on a little video presentation right now,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: just like it was the guy send pie Chan whatever
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: which the name alone, the jokes right themselves, everybody. I
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: hate to be that guy, but shit, and there's tons
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: of videos of this guy going like ooh and like
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: moving things. I'm working on my own little video presentation
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: for you. I'm gonna show it on the cold here
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: in about a week of me harnessing my cheek to
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: move things. Yes, don't worry, it's gonna be wonderful. How
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: dare you what what? I'm trying to get a little
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: more woo woo. I'm gonna show you how I could
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: be moving things in my hands. Bro total.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: You guys heard of Andrea Pooharich.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: The name sounds familiar. Jog my memory here, Julia.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: He's he came out in the late sixties early seventies
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: and he was with this other guy named Yuri.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: Gellerh were trying to.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: Teach people how to move things with their minds and
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: ben spoons and like he was one of the first
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: like telekinesis guy.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: He's getting really big right now because of the telepathy
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: tapes and like Nephelin Desk Squad, they're kind of tying
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: him into it and their presentation on it's pretty interesting.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 7: Hell yeah, a lot of science elogy stuff with irregular
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 7: andre Perhart because they did.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: All that through SRI, with folks like hal Putoff.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 7: Who's been telling folks since nineteen ninety two that aliens
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 7: eat strawberry ice cream in Nevada and he's still today
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 7: on Joe Rogan spouting off more nonsense. But some folks
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 7: never learned even though he's an O two seven, you
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 7: know OT level seven ZW you know disciple of scientology.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: You know, we just did an episode on scientology and
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: uh we actually had some people message us be like bro,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: they might need to be careful. They'll come after you.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: For of all. First of all, they can fucking trot.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: You'll get ready. We stay ready first of all. Second
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: of all, all we did on that episode was just
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: bring up other people that brought things to light and
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: how they went out of their way to fuck over,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: like out of their way to ruin these people's lives,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: the level of spy fuel.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 11: Craft that was done to rootin people.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: And it's like, first of all, Tom Cruise can come
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: get some whenever he's ready. Okay, I'm not worried about
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: the scientology Pope coming. Dude, he does his own stunts. Man,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna he's gonna do reach up,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: punched me in the knee.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: He's five foot five. I'm pretty sure he's like.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: That's for sure.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: He's super fucking short.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: But if I would not fuck with Jacob anyways, because
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: I asked him to send me a video clip for
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: my nineties series and he's walking around in his backyard
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: just wielding an axe, just tossing it around havezardly.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, weapons around me, but that's because I
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: do armored fighting, So I mean, it was it was
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: weird that I that I had the axe in my
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: hand when I sent that video. I was actually like
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: hitting my dummy and like getting a workout in.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 11: I was like, oh, yeah, I did have an act.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: It's dull. It's dull. I should mention the one behind me.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: So it made the video.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: It made the video, especially as you're talking about like
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: John Benet Ramsey swinging it.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: Watch this video.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: The As a matter of fact, I was just saying around,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: So yeah, for anybody who doesn't know, I do armored
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: m m A. So me and my boys put on
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: eighty pounds of steel armor and beat the fuck out
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: of each other with axes and swords in a cage.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 11: And that's that's what we do for fun sometimes.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: So you know you're going to get ready if you
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: stay robots robot that's what. Yeah.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 7: As far as scientology goes, I think they're amongst their
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 7: own little civil war right now, as far as the
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 7: cubing run, amongst the internal executives and whatnot. And I
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 7: agree with you on Tom is all I do. I
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: do like watching his films. He does play it's all
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 7: guy who knows how to fight very well.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: Oh he's a phenomenal actor. And I'm not going to
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: take that away from him. But also am I like
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: if I was to meet him face to face him
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, he like decided that he wanted to
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: try me. Like, first of all, I am here for
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: your smoke, sir. I don't know what your terms are,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: but they are acceptable. But well, just beware. He wields
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: that you know Xenu's superpowers because he is. He is
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: Xenu's numbers two disciple on Earth behind Miscavige. So well,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: if he can make Xenu come down on that Boeing
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: seven forty seven like they believe all the aliens fly
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: on I I you know it, he might get a
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: convert out of me.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 11: But until then I'm good.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: I've tried the little e meters before and uh, for
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: the record, just so everyone knows, you just squeeze him.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: That's how you make it ping. It has nothing to
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: do with your electro anything. It has nothing to do
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: with your spirit.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: I think you're supposed to stick him in your butt.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: You did it wrong.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 7: Oh you get eight certain one into the rectum right,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: he goes into the mouth that we can complete the circuit.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: See, it's like it's like a saddle you'll hold in
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 8: one and you sit on the other.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well fair enough. Maybe I just didn't do
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: it right, you know whatever.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: But what were just walking down the street and you
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: saw like a scientology booth?
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: How did you get into that? Oh? The E meter thing?
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 9: I visited? Clue, dude.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: I was in middle school at my uh at my
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: local flea market, and as we do, I'm looking at
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: the butterfly knives and the crazy flea market things, and
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: I see this booth set up through like eighty dianetics books.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 11: I'm in middle school.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: I have no fucking clue what dianetics is, right, And
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: the guy that was working it looked like a complete
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: certified crackhead. Like I'm there's no other way to describe
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: this skinny white guy right right right. And my dad,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: who had been around the block of time or two, like,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: knew exactly what this was. But my dad isn't the
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: type that's gonna shield me from the Oh, don't go
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: talk to them. He's gonna let me explore, and he's
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: there to watch. My dad's just the best.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 11: And I see he's got this weird thing.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: It's like two silver cans they hooked up to wires
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: and it's a little pegger pegger, wow, meggar, excuse me,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: and the little needle pings out, and uh, I'm thinking, like, yo,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: am I about to get shocked? Is this one of
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: those prank things where it's gonna send He's like, no, no, no,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go through a list of things and
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: you just hold them and I'm gonna stop you whenever
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: something causes you stress or this and this, we're gonna
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: talk about it.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 11: I'm like, all right, keep in mind, I'm like twelve.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: I couldn't give a fuck less about dianetics or any
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: of this other type of bullshit. I'm you know, whatever,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for swords at discount rates and shit, but whatever.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so I hold it and I'm thinking about
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: like my friends in school and whatever. I think about
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: my parents for a second and it pings. He's like, oh,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: right there, what were you thinking about? I was like,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about my parents? Do they cause you stress?
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: My dad's right there. He's like, do I need to
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: like walk away so you can answer honestly. I'm like, no,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: this guy's not my therapist. What are we talking about here? No,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: my parents don't cause me stress. He's like, oh, well, uh,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: I really think you should buy this book. It was
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: like seventy dollars again, fu fucking twelve And I met
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: a flea market in Louisiana.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 11: What the fuck do you think I came here with seventy.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: Dollars my ass, dude. But anyway, before I hit the
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: fans back, I start squeezing them like crazy, just to
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: see what would happen, pling ping, ping ping, And I'm like, oh,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: so that's your gambit. You're just waiting to see when
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: finally my nut my muscles twitch.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 11: I'm supposed to work myself for that fuck off.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 7: It's because when you squeeze harder, it creates a greater
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 7: con Uh, you know, you sweat more. So it's it's
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 7: measuring the sweat on your on your palms, is what
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 7: it's doing. So you sweat more than it's gonna be
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 7: ping more of your sweat less, it's gonna ping less.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 7: And it is silly, right, I mean, yeah, but they yeah,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 7: they're an interesting group. They're an interesting group.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 8: Nonetheless, I remember when I was a kid, I saw
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 8: that Yo, that book was on the TV.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 9: I remember seeing all the team in the stores.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 8: I remember commercials even asking my fall that I had
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 8: seen it so many times I had asked my dad.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 9: I was like, what is that book supposed to be about?
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 8: So I show it fucking constantly at one point and
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 8: he was just like, I don't know. That's some cult shit.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 8: And he's like, the guy's supposed to be dead. He's like,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 8: I don't think he used.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: Sold The book sold retail for twenty five ninety nine.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: This fucker is trying to hawk it for seventy bucks
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: a pop. He was a piece of ship, which I
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: mean told me everything I needed to know about the
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: Church of Scientology.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 7: It's a money grab. It's a money reason like broke people.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 7: So he's got to email you. I mean, you gotta
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 7: start capitalizing what you get in. They want you to sell.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 7: They want you to have bigger dreams than twenty five
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 7: ninety nine, right, which you have them seventy dollars dreams.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 9: You really don't mean it if you don't spend the money.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 6: Exactly, dude, I'm telling you, no one with.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 9: That bad.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 11: Oh man. These people every.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: Want to sell.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 7: You can suffer twelve dollars if you have twelve dollars dreams.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 7: But I mean they want you to have like one
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 7: hundred dollars dreams too, or dollar dreams, you know, so
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 7: some people's kids.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 12: Man, I'm telling you, look, there is one more thing
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 12: that I did want to mention as far as nothing
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 12: here and this this is pretty wild actually, so the
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 12: Warrens family.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever heard of them, but.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 11: Hold on, Oh shit, is that me and you flooded that?
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that Jonathan beat the funking on me with
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: a long sword. What's actually I.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 12: Think this one as a matter of fact, Yeah, a little,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 12: it got a little bent. If you want to play it,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 12: go ahead, we can watch it all right.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 8: So, yeah, you threw it up, told maybe this might
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 8: what you were talking about fired up?
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: Would you prefer to with with weird metal? Look? How
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: sure my hair was.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 7: No more?
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 9: The lacking on you off?
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 6: Just a flesh wound.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, it left a pretty sizable bruise. But
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: I mean the armor it protects us from dying. But
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: we have a lot of broken bones in this sport,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: like a lot.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 12: So yeah, kind of bad for that got his sword
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 12: a little bent up there, but he said, hit him
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 12: as hard as I could.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: And I mean it's not too often somebody tells you that.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: You know you.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 11: Absolutely I was charging people. I was a little farmer's mark.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: We put on an event for Hindsight twenty twenty when Louisiana.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: It was one hundred and six ambient temperature that day
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: with like eighty percent humidity. Hey, wearing eighty pounds of
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: steel armor in that environment not my smartest idea I've
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: ever done, gonna be honest with you. But it was fun.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: The kids enjoyed it.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 11: They came up and beat the shit at me with
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 11: like frying pans and little axes.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: It was a good time. Yeah.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good party anyway.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 12: Right, So yeah, I wanted to get into this, just
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 12: this one last thing as far as Dudley Town goes som.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 12: So yeah, it says over the years there's allegedly been
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 12: everything from suicides to demonic possessions and all of the
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 12: hysterical drama in between.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: The Warrens.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 12: So if you're unfamiliar with the Warrens, you probably know
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 12: where they're most well known from, and that is Ed
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 12: and Lorraine Warren, which were in the Conjuring series and.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 6: Stuff like that, Right, Annabel the Doll, right exactly.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Annabel as well.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 7: And they just lost they just lost that Robert Roberts
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 7: cousin or something.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: Where did you hear that they lost it from?
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: It was Connecticut. It was in New Orleans a couple
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Hold on, now, what the fuck has happened?
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there was news articles just a few days ago.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: They were lost in trainsit somewhere.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: Just so they can make.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: Moving curse dolls. Losing the place.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Annabel, the haunted parcel.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 7: It's as bad as not warning folks that you got
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 7: a haunted doll and you go in an old Civil
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 7: War museum to go look at a mound, you know
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 7: what I mean, and suddenly that person gets on it.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 6: For thirteen years, but Jesus.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: All that, dude.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 12: But as far as the Warren, so that's and Lorraine Warren,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 12: they're always like, they're very well known. They've been doing
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 12: a lot of ghost adventure type of investigating over the
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 12: last I think like fifty years.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: They've been doing it for a hot minute.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 12: But it says the Warrants famously recorded a Halloween special
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 12: from Dudley Town in the early nineteen seventies, declaring it
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 12: officially officially in their quotes demonically possessed, which essentially opened
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 12: the supernatural floodgates. Since then, it has been home to
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 12: all sorts of alleged paranormal experiences, with visitors witnessing all
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 12: manner of spirit and fansom as well as having unsettled
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 12: feelings of dread and fear. As you might expect, the
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 12: area has also drawn the attention of those enthralled with
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 12: dark forces and demonic rituals, plus a healthy number of
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 12: amateur ghostbusters and teenagers simply searching for trouble. In short,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 12: it's become a damned destination, so it's literally called like
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 12: the village of the Town of the Damned is what
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 12: it's known as.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: There's tons of eyewitnesses and again it's literally a YouTube
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: search away of people that illegally, of course, have made
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: their way into Dudley Town. There's reports of them walking
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: through the woods and then hitting a patch of super
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: cold like almost like a section of the woods that
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: happens to be air conditioned where that's obviously not possible.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: Then they walk through and it's back to the regular temperature,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: or them being pushed like hard shoved and falling and
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: then turning around. Nobody's there a cold hand slapping at
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: them or something like this. There's tons, tons of these
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: stories and nobody has any real quote unquote reason behind it.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 11: None of the stories make sense.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: But when you look at the history of this place,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: it doesn't take long, It doesn't take much of a
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: deep dive anyway, to show that there is obviously something there.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 11: There's obviously something I would.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: Say malicious personally low of the malfeasance going on within
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: the land.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 11: Is it the soil itself?
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: Is it the radiation? Is it spiritual? Is it a
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: burial site? Is it Salem witch esque? Is it English
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: curse esque? Is it something else completely? Why do lightning
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: strikes keep happening in this motherfucker? Why do people randomly
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: just wander off into the woods never to be seen again. Look,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: we don't have the answers. The answer actually is yes, yes,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: all of that.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: I almost wonder if it's like a Bermuda triangle type thing.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, what's that like?
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 6: A Bridgewater triangle Bridgewater, Massachusetts?
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: Is that Is that a thing I have not heard
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: of that?
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah? It's apparently haunted by the same war of King
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 7: Phillips war apparently, is why that's so spooky and mysterious.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 7: But it is this kind of Bermuda triangle concept. But
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 7: on land Okay, it's extremely My former stockers in a
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 7: mental institution there right now. It's I've been, I've been
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 7: kind of you know. It's a weird place to put.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: Him, you know what I mean.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: Is he the guy that made you eat a human hamburger?
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 7: That's a different guy, Buffalo jere Erviza. This is the
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 7: guy whose family broke the curse of the Goat for
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 7: the Chicago Cubs. He's from this famous sports hypnosis family
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 7: that they're credited with breaking the curse of the goat.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 7: And he used to work for the family business before
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 7: he started his own PR firm and stalked me and
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 7: then later someone else hired him to be.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 6: His PR rep. That's what he was.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 7: He was stalking me to you know, hire you know,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 7: wanted me to hire him his my PR rep. I'm like,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 7: I don't need a PR rep. Some guy did hire
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 7: his PR rep and he he stabbed him a lot.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: Using the money.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 9: Jacob Jacob Jacob.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 6: Ken revisa famous sports hypnotist.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, do you pay attention to see what this guy did?
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 9: He was a hypnotist.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 7: Scary that comes from this hypnosis. Jacob offense there, Jonathan.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 9: I did wear that armored Jacob.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: No, fuck that Jonathan hypnotizing once before, and it was
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: actually really cool. I highly recommend everybody go.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 6: To I'm see.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying there's probably not some benefits to it, right,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying, you know, when you got a mind
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 7: I see. I'm just saying you got a multi state
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 7: trans apocalypse assass and it seems kind of like a
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 7: mind control assassin from a famous sports hypnosis family.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 12: Well, I did arry, I did bury some uh some
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 12: some suggestions into a subconscious that he a cross yet so.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: You put some trigger?
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he sounds like doing some crazy ship.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: Look, whenever Jacob starts like, you know, pitching attention, oh,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: I just want you to know. I'm telling you. Look,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: everybody calls me a fed because I'm more feet on
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: the ground. Well, I've been saying this, dude, if I'm
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: the Fed, Jonathan's clearly my handler.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 11: He hypnotized me.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: Nothing else.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: I can see it. I can see the dynamic here.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: You see it.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: Part mentioned something about the Warrens just really quick. So
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: the Warrens are infamous for the conjuring and Annabelle stuff.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: But they were also the first investigators for the Amityville House. Yeah,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: and they actually interviewed the actual serial killer guy Ronald
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: the Fayo, that murdered his whole family in there.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: They're also known for working.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: The case that inspired the Exorcist movie. But what people
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: have found is wherever they go, there is a lot
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: of activity that follows after that, So it's like they're
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: almost conduits for some weird activity. The year that they
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: investigated the kid that inspired the Exorcist, Ouiji Board.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Sold off the shelves, so it's like, if.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: They've been somewhere, you almost have to wonder if they
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: didn't contribute to a little bit. They're spiritual feds, well yeah,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: and it's like they open up doorways that they don't
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: know how to close and shit like that everywhere they go.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: So that intersts me that they've been there and that
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: they said it was demonic just.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: Out of curiosity.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 12: Julia, you cover like a lot of a cult ritualistic
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 12: type of murders, and that's like what you're most famous
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 12: for coming on the cult. Do you ever feel like
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 12: you may be evoking a lot of these type of energies.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 12: Whenever you're diving into stories like this, like does it
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 12: keep you up at night you see shadow entities at
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 12: the base of your bed?
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: Or is there any crazy shit going on?
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 5: I might end up dead from all the stuff he
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: talks about it. I think about that often.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: No, he might really end up dead.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: But that's the.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: Thing that gets me the most, that haunts me the most.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: I have covered a lot of like occult you know,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: ritualistic murders, But the things that get me the most
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: upset are like things to do with kids, obviously, like
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: when I read Program to Kill and I read about
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: all the pedophile rings and stuff like that, the Franklin scandal,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: MC martin preschool. There's actually a cult it's called the
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: Hand of God, Right Hand of God cult that you covered. No,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: which one the one that's a kid did alure in?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 6: Oh Jesus and they all think they're Jesus. They're all gett.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: The children of.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: God, children of God.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 6: The Phoenix family.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: Phoenix Yeah, and they were like, oh, yes, if your
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: kid can't get to sleep at night, you got to diddle.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: Them from the rubs. Yeah, followers do this to their
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: own kid, well made, I mean ship.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 6: Rivers Phoenix said he lost his virginity at the age
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 6: of three.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: That see, but.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: That's that's that's coming from the cult.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: That's why I say like the murder is the murders
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: are almost easier to talk about because you know somebody
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: died in the end and they got put out of
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: their misery. These kids grow up and it's like the
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: torture never stops that they're just fucked for life.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 12: Have you seen a recent picture of Amanda Binds bro
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 12: Oh my god, I.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: Talk about her all the time. She looks fucking horrible.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 11: And apparently is making a killing. Now it's insane.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: Would watch that.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 6: Ridge?
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I personally don't understand it. Listen, I like my
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: women thick. Okay, that's not a secret. I've been very
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: vocal about this in the past, but I mean that
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: that is.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: Not It looks like she works the taco bell drives
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: through in Detroit.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 11: Oh no, no, she never knows exactly what you mean.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Whenever I heard about her only fans, I was like,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, is she like on a comeback? Does
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: she rebrand herself and now she looks nice? No, there's definitely.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 7: She appears to have taken over process an offshoot of
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 7: the Processed Church of the Final Judgment because her old
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 7: buddy JJ Brian was used to be a leader. He's
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 7: dead and there's two females now and I suspect she's
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 7: one of them is leading that that.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can just look it up. JJ Brian he was.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 7: He was a Victorianism It's a processed church offshoot operated
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 7: out of some art galleries. He started it after he
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 7: got busted for being a spook over in Libya, and
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 7: before that he worked for Brent Scocroft. He was Brent
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 7: Scowcroft's assistant for number of years. Prince Gocroft was Henry
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 7: Kessinger's VP of Kissinger and Associates and also a retired.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 6: Air Force general and National security advisor. You know, spooky,
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 6: spooky spook right.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: But so Amanda Bying. She was one of the ones
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: that was with Dan Schneider in the hot.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 7: You know, I have no doubt that that that plays
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 7: into it, but just look at the she was.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: Her and Brian were tired. She was, she was into
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 6: that Victorianism stuff with.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: Literally JJ Brin is known.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 12: He goes by this name because he's an artist, but
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 12: he goes by the name of the Crown Prince of Hell.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: So if that doesn't make anybody think of Alistair Crowley
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: in some way, then I don't know what.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 6: It's the Limah. It's an off shoot.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 7: It's the Lima a guy a lodge, scientology, process, Victorianism.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 7: I mean, they just they professed to be an offshoot
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 7: of I mean, it's all the process symbols and theology and.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 6: Christ and all that stuff.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: Wow, tattooed eyebrows that look like exclamation points.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you, I'm telling you she's in some cult
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 7: shit and she's at the top of that cult.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 6: And now that Brian's dead.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, nothing about it.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 7: I just my allegations at least, right, and I got
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 7: nothing to prove a close relationship with him. There's no
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 7: there's no question about that her and Brian were tight.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: She orgasms and she goes Amanda, please just like.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 9: That's good.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 11: That's goodt I mentioned.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: Her in my nineties series for the Cult of Conspiracy
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: because she is one of those weird ones. And you know,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: we recently covered something about Britney Spears because she's fucking.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: You know, bat shit these days too. If that's even.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 6: Her, Yeah, yeah, all the nineties.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: People have like kind of been losing it recently, But
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: that's goes back to my original point though, is like
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: all these kids were fucked up off the Disney Channel
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: and Nickelodeon and like all these Mickey Mouse Club like
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 3: they all have dark, dark, dark histories. It's like I
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: would almost rather be murdered and somebody do some kind
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: of weird occult ritual with my body. It's like I'm dead,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: who the fuck cares. But it's like these kids, they
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: don't get off the hook. It's like that's life. They
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: get a life sentence, and it's wayward death.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely appalling.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 12: Jacob always likes to bring up Hillary Duff about how
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 12: she came out like unscathed, but there's some controversy with
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 12: old Cakes as well.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: Hold On, hold on.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: I got a big, fat ass.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: Now, Yo is what I would consider the goat as
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: far as that's concerned. Now, I'm not saying this for
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: a confirmed fact, but as far as I can tell,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: she is the only Disney kid to make it out
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: of that life with her head intact. She seems to
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: be a good person. She seems to be doing her
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: own thing, and she wasn't drug into all of the disgust.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 11: I could be wrong, but as far as.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: Nora tattoos, no drug uses, well, she's married and just
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: actually get a complete, all natural birth, no drugs, nothing
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: like that at home. I mean, as far as I
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: can tell, she's she's up there. She's up there in
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: the goat status. But Jonathan, don't don't break my heart here.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: But what do you have about the Duff?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 12: I mean, look, sometimes we can overlook these things. Whenever
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 12: you got dumps like a truugh what what like that
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 12: whole thing with her ass that is astronomical. Literally, However,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 12: I'm sorry we're going to deflate that as a little
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 12: bit because she actually this.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: Was a Q and on thing.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 12: So take it or leave it. But Hillary Duff was
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 12: mentioned as child trafficking.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 5: It's you a number hearing about this too, because if
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: you get jail out, it's because.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: You've got a management position.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: You're not like, you know, what's your name, Amanda Bayan
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: sweeping the floor? You actually are executive now. I don't
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: think you ever really get out of it.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: Well, what about the black girls?
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 7: Sounds like Lindsay lohand to me, right, that's kind of
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 7: remember she was over in the Middle East trying to
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 7: kidnap a kid on Instagram one day and like no
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 7: one really asked any questions about it.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: But she also public lost her fucking mind, right so
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: as she did Herbie Reloa. Immediately after that, she went
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: downhill and apparently she want to come back right now.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 7: She's started speaking like Farsi in that video, Dude, Like,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, you're you're a Marina. I'm sure you did
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 7: some time over there in the in the Middle East.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, like, Farsie's not the language you pick up overnight.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: Nah, past tune in. Farsi are absolutely hard languages to learn.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: Their sentence structures completely back ass wheres from.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 7: English saying, and she she's speaking fluently in that video
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 7: from when she's trying to kidnap that kid.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 6: I'm like, what is going on on?
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: She's she's been activated. Yo.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 12: This is where a lot of that uh that QAnon
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 12: shit about Hillary uff really started.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: So it was trending back in twenty twenty.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 12: But she had posted a video of her eight year
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 12: old son naked on Twitter and.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 11: She's let me see so she said that.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 12: Someone pointed out on Instagram that I did a nude
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 12: of her son. So I did a nude of Luca,
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 12: which is the name of her son, and then she
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 12: goes which I did, so we covered that up with
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 12: a sticker. It's like you put your naked son on
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 12: Instagram in Twitter and then you're like, oh, we're gonna
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 12: just throw a little sticker up there. That almost sounds like, uh,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 12: like maybe you're fishing.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 11: I hadn't heard about that one.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 6: Now sounds like onto Instagram.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 11: Sound like you see ol uh oh uh. What's his name?
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady? You know what I'm saying. How he was
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: with his eight year old son. It sounds something kin
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: to that fuck.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 6: When they were were they kissing? Is that the one?
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 6: Is that what you're talking about? A little too long
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 6: their neck.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 7: And behind the stadium mana on the stands disgusting.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: Also, I'm not a big fan of Tom Brady, but
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: you know, I think he's I think he's a little
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: over hyped, but neither nor there.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 7: He also started charges in that whole FTX thing, and
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 7: he took about five hundred million dollars for sponsoring, so
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 7: you know, I got questions.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: He's also from witchcraft too.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 10: I was just gonna say that Giselle was a professor
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 10: switch from Brazil.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, his career spiraled out of control after she left
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 5: his life, which is you know, his age.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: Who knows. It could be.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 5: Either way, but it is Tom Brady's ex wife.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: She left him for like her jiu jitsu trainers, right,
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: she was the secret model.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah, he had actually said or I forget had said that.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, my wife was involved in witchcraft. And you
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 12: know she she just so happened to guess right every
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 12: time I would play in the super Bowl, because he
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 12: went to like seven or eight or I don't know
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 12: how many fucking super Bowls he went to, maybe nine
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 12: something like that, and because I think he won six
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 12: super Bowls, and I guess she allegedly quote unquote guessed
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 12: right every time that he was going.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: To win or lose because she made it happen exactly.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 5: She was sissed at him when they played the Giants.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 6: I never heard this before. Now, I never heard. I mean,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 6: I'm into it. I never heard you whitch.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's quite open about it.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 6: I just don't.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 7: I hate Tom Brady so much. It pays so little
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 7: attention to it. So I've completed some blind. It's clearly
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 7: a blind splot blind spot form here now I gotta go, yeah,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 7: check that out.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 11: Would you say it's possibly a blind side?
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 6: I might have been blindsided? There you go.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: God damn see, I don't even watch the NFL. To
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: be honest with you, I can't tell you last time
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: I sat and watched the game. I just can't.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 11: I'm not knocking those that are into it by any means.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: Everybody's got to find their blue pill thing, I get
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: that right, But dude, it's so fucking rigged. And even
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: trying to watch a game now, there's so many new
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: rules that they didn't have when I was growing up.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: It's it's it makes it unenjoyable at.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 5: The awful sports just saturated with awful the culture now
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 5: that it's I used to enjoy football, but last time
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 5: I tried to watch a game is just like all
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: this stuff that didn't used to be there.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 7: There's actually there's actually some some substances. I mean, some
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 7: actual real substance. What you're saying not just you know,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 7: not I'm not diminishing your opinion there, callby, I'm just saying, like,
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 7: does the league's change a lot over the years, it
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 7: is one team now, like legally speaking, they make all
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 7: their decisions now is like one thirty two branched team
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 7: basically where they all profit share, right, like oh, entertaining.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 6: One like that?
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 7: Right, there was a whole different kind of league. I mean,
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 7: I just I'm looking back. I mean, it has evolved
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 7: quite a bit to the point where it has just
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 7: become this real shitty product if you ask me. But
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 7: it's always always been scandalous though.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 11: We did a deep dive on the NFL.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: They are the only sport that is listed as an entertainment,
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: not as an athletic division, meaning that the entertainment no wrestling,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not calling that a sport. Yeah, but you think
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: that when you watch a game, an NFL game, you're
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: watching competition, you're watching athleticism. No, no, dude. According to
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: the American law, they are being taxed as an entertainment industry,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: meaning that the games are rigged.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 11: There is a text there. Well, yeah, right, the.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 7: Individual team matters are taxed, but the league's not taxed. Again,
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 7: there's just so many games they played with these legal mechimisms.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 7: Years They over the years of folks have corrupted those
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 7: legal mechanisms they corrupted back in the sixties at this
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 7: point where it's just it's I mean, and it's always gangsters.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 7: The whole league was started by gangsters. It's still you know,
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of you know, organized crime figures. You know,
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 7: Para Selton's uncle was how to sell his team from
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 7: the as the Chargers because you know, he was an
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 7: organized crime crime guy.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 11: Absolutely.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 10: I was telling Neck that it's the only sports thing
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 10: where they have the combine and if you knew anything
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 10: about picking cotton, they're called combines auctioning.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 11: Uh huh.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 7: Wasn't that a Nike commercial? Didn't they make a Nike
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 7: commercial with Colin Kaepernick of that andsion?
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: That sounds about right, all right.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 6: And now they should have they missed an opportunity.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: Oh dude.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 12: Speaking of Colin Kaepernick, there was there was a guy
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 12: that I went to high school with, literally lived right
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 12: next door to in Louisiana. His name is Eric Reid,
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 12: and he was one that was like always on Colin
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 12: Kaepernick's side every time he was taking a knee or
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 12: you know, holding his fists up in the air or whatever.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 12: So it's just crazy, like how small of a world
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 12: it is whenever, like, legit, dude, I used to live
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 12: next to this fucking guy and he was the wuietest
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 12: although like never talked, like we're super shy, and all
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 12: of a sudden he's leaving. He's leading some kind of
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 12: Black Lives Matter movement. I'm like some some there's definitely
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 12: some corrupt shit going on in the NFL.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: We really in all sports.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 7: Had you been Colin Kaepernick's adoptive parents, like what a
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 7: dick this kid is? We raised him, sit with him
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 7: all these football games.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 2: Think about being cameltoe hair his dad who She's saying like, oh,
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: I'm Jamilicia, Well, I get down with this and this
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: and this. Her dad is a white.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 7: Dude, Okay, Professor Scott's Irish, lady, what are you talking about?
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: Right, he's a professor. He has worked his ass off
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: to get to a level where his name is reputable
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: in US in education, and all she says, oh is Jamaican.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: You know we smoked that reefer. And he's just like,
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: fuck you, what do you?
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 6: Legally speaking, they're Jamaican.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 7: But the Hamilton's and the Browns movie, they're about seven
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 7: in the early seventeen hundreds from you know, Scotland and Ireland,
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 7: so they're they're Jamaican in that regard.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's part of the Brahmins, like the fucked up Brahman.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 6: That's your mom's side.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 6: The Indian, Yeah, that's even worse side, you ask me.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: And dependent on who she was talking to, depending on
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: what race she claimed, Kamala was just trash, absolutely.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: Trash, trash ass bitch one.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: Again. I heard her claim black, I heard her claim white,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: I heard her claim Indian. I heard her claim Southeast Asian, like,
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you cannot actually be behind fifty seven when
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: we know who the fuck your parents are, bitch, Like,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: you know, hey, I know, I'm just an asshole Republican
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: I suppose. Yeah, yeah, I'm with.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: You, Jacob.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 7: I enjoyed the Kamala show. Though it's a good It
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 7: was a good show to watch. I mean that, you know,
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 7: it's funny to watch. It's a lot of comedy, if
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 7: you asked me, because who knows who knows who's running
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 7: things these days. But it certainly wasn't her, and it
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 7: certainly wasn't the other fella, you know what I mean.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: But she was the America's drunk aunt every time she spoke,
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: it sounded like she just down two fucking bottles of
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: oh and was just spitting off of the mouth about whatever.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: She seemed a drunk aunt at the party.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, she was washing down some Benzez with some wine
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 7: for breakfast, for sure. That's the Kamala Harris power breakfast.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: It still blows my mind that the left really tried
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: running her as like the serious voice and it's serious.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's how dumb they are. They're like, this is
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 7: a good candidate. We're gonna be right behind her. It's
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 7: it's just that's the nature.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: Like they threw her in there to throw the game.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 11: But at the same time they ruined themselves.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean to turn this into a whole
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: political conversation, but at the same time, why not if
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: the Left as a whole cannot find a person who
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: is likable, who is not a psychopath, then I don't
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: know if they'll win another election.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 11: At least for the next four or five.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: Like that, that seems to be the thing, right, if
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: you could find somebody who's just left of center, who
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 2: can make the screaming lib towards satisfied enough. But also
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: seems like a decent person who seems even slightly remotely
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: competent to run against whoever the fuck goes after Trump, right,
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: and that's I don't know who that will be. I'm
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: hearing things they're saying, good question. But maybe he'll groom
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: his children to take on that. Maybe we'll have a
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 2: Trump dynasty, Donald Junior or even Ivanka or who knows,
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: who knows barn when the time comes, who knows it's
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: realisly go ahead.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 7: As Hillary has already thrown her hat in to run
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 7: in the next the twenty twenty eight election.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 11: I don't know how many times her witch's cap that is.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: You know, the country has spoken multiple times, even when
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: the Democrats completely chop Bernie Sanders off of the legs
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: to get her to the position of the DNC candidate.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: America doesn't want her. They never have.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 7: It's insane, for sure, for sure, But this is why
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 7: we got Biden and Harris because of John Podesta running
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 7: the DNC and and league with Clinton and Obama.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: But really, I would argue Pedesta is the one making
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: those decisions. I think it's honestly even deeper than that.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: And we talked about this in the Tavistock episodes we
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: just recently did. It's like the only the only reason
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: we know certain names is because they are somebody's bitch. Okay.
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 2: The only way that we know Podessa's name, The only
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: way we know the Rothschild's name is because they are
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: somebody's lackey. They are answering to somebody. That's the only
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: way we were even allowed to know their names. And
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 2: when you get to that level of we're talking the
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: international shadow government that is running the world. I'm not
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: saying it's Tavistock. I'm not saying it's the Committee of
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: three hundred. I'm not saying it's the Club of Rome.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 9: I'm not.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's all their boss right, it's.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 6: Named the hierarchy.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 7: They're there too, from Podessa to sit through the route
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 7: through Linda Rothschild, you know what I mean. So that
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 7: you you know you're talking about there as far as
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 7: these connections go, where where the commanders are coming from.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 6: I don't know what they're going through.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 7: But Podesta, the Jesuit fella, you know they're in uh
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 7: him and a townier deep in with the Vatican to date.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 7: You know they're they're taking over from somebody. But they're
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 7: they're portraying those orders, manifesting his orders through they're they're
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 7: big occultist. They're definitely manifesting them through you know Hillary Clinton,
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 7: you know Obama, because they did a deal together back
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 7: to Diane Feinstein's Layer back there in two thousand and nine.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 6: So gosh, they're all on one team. They're all on
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 6: the same they're all cute.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: And fine Stein's another one that she just I'm not
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: saying that I wish for anybody's death.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 11: I'm saying that she needs. She needs to go away,
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 11: like it's it's to the house.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: Fine. Stegin's not dead yet, is she?
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 6: I think I think she is. Maybe I'm thinking Pelosi's died. No,
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 6: I think Pelosi's alive.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 11: No, yeah, Pelosi's husband and her under indictment right now.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: For inside her.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 7: Mind, sign's dead there she died in office then, right
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 7: she they finally maybe the Chinese spy killed her.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 6: That was her driving.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, got in twenty twenty three? Good, I mean,
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: I mean rip and all that, but like fuck, yes,
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: all right, okay in office thanks to a twinkie.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 11: Yeah that was I forgot about that.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 6: Actual story. She came to she came to power thanks
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 6: to a twinkie.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 2: But I think it's all a part of the plan, right,
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: even our American politics right now, I believe that our
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: elected officials are selected, not elected. And yes, while this
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: past election, I believe that, yes, the American people's voices
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 2: were heard. I also think there was no possible way
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: that they could have pretended like Kamala won this election
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: like they did with Biden, right, they could at least
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: try to put the piece together. They stole the election
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent. That's not even an up conjecture. And fine,
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: at least in some way, shape or form, we could
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: imagine a world that's true. There's no way they could
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: have done that with Kamala and not had a revolt
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: on their hands. I mean, fuck, we were about two
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: centimeters away from having a real life civil war if
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: Trump would have caught that round in the dome rather
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: than in the ear.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 6: It's I hear you, I hear you.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 7: I don't I just don't know when folks are trading
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 7: getting vaccines for cheeseburgers and French fries. The help revolt,
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 7: but the Blazzia commercial, but you know what I mean.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 7: But I hear and I hear what you're saying, but
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 7: I just think that you'll be surprised what folks be
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 7: convinced of. I think when when it's all said and
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 7: done with what Biden's state of health was. I know
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 7: for a fact he was getting lost in his home
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 7: ten years ago, So yeah, you know what, where is
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 7: that now?
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 6: It's not good? Where is that now?
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 7: These reports that he was getting lost in the clauset
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 7: of the White House totally believable to me because ten
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 7: years ago.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 6: That he couldn't get his way off his own home.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 7: So obviously that's gonna you know, progress, He's gonna the
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 7: rooms are gonna get smaller that he gets lost and
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 7: now he's down to.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 6: The class in a week.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: And I'll be honest with you, I actually have a
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: weird able to speak on this perspective. The Joe Biden
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: that just ran against Trump is not the same human
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: being that was the VP under Borough open to it.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 11: I'm not saying he's a clone. I'm not saying he's a.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 2: You know, all the acting and the plastic surgery and
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: all of this, I'm not saying he's a cyborg. I
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: don't know what the correct answer is. So I was
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: stationed in Washington, d C. Okay, I actually march in
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: the Obama's inauguration. I have put eyes on Obama and
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: Biden myself at a very close distance.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 11: I can tell you any.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: Shoutow of any doubt Joe Biden, that was the vice
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 2: president under Barack. Who's saying Obama is not the guy
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: who ran against Trump? These are two different human beings.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean like, oh, well, you know he's
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: changed a lot.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 4: No.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 11: No, I mean like they have different DNA. These are
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 11: different people.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 7: I don't disagree with you, sir, because I know I'm
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 7: a retired Air Force military police police dude.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: Oh god, you were an MP.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I plan coordinator, executed the two thousand and nine
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 7: inauguration duties, all all the MP duties for the two
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 7: thousand and nine or inauguration for the area.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 10: Where were you?
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: Where were you stationed? Anacosta?
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 6: Well, I was stationed there to Andrews D of the
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 6: Pentagon during during my seven years there in d C.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 2: Andrews is where I did my pistol quaw. As a
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, I was station at eighth and I
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: in Washington.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 7: D C.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 6: Okay, I'm familiar with these spots. Yep. Yes, and in
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 6: the range of Andrews used to be run by a
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 6: number of my friends over the years ran that range.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: So wait, you were there from what year to what year?
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: I was there from ten to fourteen. I was there
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: from two thousand and six to twenty fourteen. Son of
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: a bitch. We were chopping up the same dirt at
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: the same time. First of all, I think you could
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: agree with me fuck DC.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 6: Well yeah, I could agree with the twenty fourteen when
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 6: I left the place.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, the traffic there alone, the fuck the
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: fuck the you know how dangerous it is and how
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: it smells and all of that.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 11: Dude, the traffic of Loon is horrible.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 6: Do you recall it?
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 7: This was working the range over there at Andrews, perhaps
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 7: a very short, very bald fellow with BCG glasses like
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 7: you get in basic training.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 11: Actually I don't remember the name, but I remember that
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 11: particularly well.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: He ran.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 7: He ran the range over there from two thousand and
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 7: eight to twenty thirteen. His name was Rob Karate. I
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 7: taught that man how to use a at walkie talkie,
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 7: because that's what he would call them back in the
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 7: Saudi Arabia back in two thousand. You know, it was
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 7: right when they moved all the combat arms guys into
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 7: security forces, molding combat arms and law enforcement and security
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 7: all into one field. This dude was a combat arms guy,
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 7: you know, by training before they mold him into that.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 7: He had never even touched any sort of radio communications before.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 7: And he was a staff sergeant. I was.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 6: I was an air first class, So you know, all right, dude.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 2: First of all, I need to ask you something because
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: I keep telling this story and people think I'm lying.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 11: You were there during this timeframe.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: Do you remember when a guy jumped the fence at
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: the White House, nady through all the security and got
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: caught White House making a sandwich in the kitchen. Sure, yes, No,
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: he broke in, dude, and he was in the kitchen
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: making a sandwich, and it was while Obama was there.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 2: Do you remember this?
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 5: No?
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 7: I remember that he initially did knock on the door,
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 7: encountered one Secret Service agent who did not apprehend him,
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 7: and then he proceeded on into the kitchen.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 6: He's like, well, fuck, if no one's gonna stap.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 2: Me, dude, I've been trying to tell people that this happened.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: They're like, no, it didn't. I'm like, bro, look, it
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: absolutely happened. And two worked at Secret Service years later,
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, bro, how many different security measures did
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: he like hit? And how many of y'all watched him
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: and just let him go? Like what were you doing?
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 2: And the answer I got was we were kind of
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 2: bummed that the kitchen was where he was headed. I'll
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 2: leave it at that. And I was like, bro, what
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: the fuck? And then cut to the Secret Service blunder
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 2: that was Butler Pennsylvania, and it's like, you know, I'm
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: starting to think that the Secret Service might also be bought.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, they weren't known for doing their jobs
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 7: an eleven twenty two sixty three, were they?
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 6: So I mean it is kind of their thing, right
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 6: Jesus Christ.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: I'm glad someone else can remember this one was there
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: when that took place. Good God, And that town capital building, yeah,
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 2: what's it? And that woman that tried driving her car
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: into the Capitol Building and didn't get very far up
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 2: the steps with it.
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 6: The one that got popped real quick.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she got popped.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 6: I was in the that's when I left after duty.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 6: Was in the reserves at.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 7: Andrew's I was the superintendent of the security reserving it
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 7: there on that flight line in One of my troops
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 7: was a Capitol Police officer involved in that incident.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 9: God damn.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 11: Yeah, what a wild time to live in DC.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 6: Oh you were there for the horrible town It's ad
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 6: of iniquity.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I did mention.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 12: So you guys were talking about how Biden's a clone.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 12: Trump actually shared a truth. I guess it's called a truth.
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 12: It's not a tweet on truth social or whatever. He
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 12: shared a message on there saying that there is no Biden.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 12: There is no Joe Biden. He was executed in twenty twenty.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 12: And Biden it's a He's a clone. He's a clone
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 12: or a double or a robotic engineered, soulless, mindless entity
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 12: is what you see. Oh shit, hashtags hashtag democrats don't
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 12: know the difference.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: I totally saw this.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 6: I forgot and that's legit. He did send that.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't on true social even check. I didn't have
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 7: a true one my first visit to true social as.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: A result of that that post.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: He said that on Twitter social, but.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 7: It was it was reposted on the Twitter. But I
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 7: had to go verify it. I'm like, come, it's wild ship.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 7: You have to go see if that's real.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean is a reanimated corpse. Everybody
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: knows is already fallen off.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 11: He's a clone, probably the best clone out there.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 2: Some are saying I don't know, but I'm just saying
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: he's probably a cone. Yeah, I could believe this.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 12: It wasn't his post, but he shared it on his page,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 12: So pretty crazy, dude, I don't I don't think it
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 12: takes a genius to find out or to look at
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 12: Joe Biden and be like, yeah, that's not Joe Biden. Dude,
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 12: about that ear lobes and we talked about literally the
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 12: hire facial structure is totally different. And then let's just
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 12: say that he is some kind of soul of sensity. Well,
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 12: that would make sense for all of the children sniffing
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 12: it would, indeed.
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: And I mean you think back to the Biden that
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: was there when Obama gave his his leaving office speech,
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: right when he was stepping out, and he had made
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 2: a comment about how the new administration I have hopes
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: that they will do what is right and what is
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: best for the American people. And then you see Biden
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: in the background doing like like cutting a joke, and
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: the people laughed and like the whole like he kind
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: of had a sense of humor with them back then.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: That was that was a guy, the dude who swore
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: in and quote unquote beat Trump. That that is not
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 2: the same, homeboy. I'm sorry, the two don't even look alike.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: But to the point the Liberals either A they can
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: tell the difference and they just didn't want to say anything,
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 2: or B they're.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 11: That retarded and can't tell the difference.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. It could be both.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 6: It's an emperor a close situation. I think at least
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 6: to some degree.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 12: You know, I could see that it doesn't even matter dude,
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 12: if it was him or not. He's just a placeholder
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 12: to carry out whatever they're trying to do. And so
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 12: I mean, whether he was a clone, if it was
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 12: real Biden and maybe he just had like extreme dementia
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 12: or whatever. Like they they got they got done what
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 12: they planned on doing. I think, well, yeah, that's.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 2: Why he pardoned every single member of his family and
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: all the other people. Literally a few hours before he
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: left office, just started signing these mass pardons for any
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: and all crimes that they may or may not have
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: committed signed Joe Biden, Like, wait, I'm I'm sorry. You
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: would have to have some sort of insider knowledge to
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: know that these people could be indicted for you to
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: just sign such a Yeah, just guessing.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 12: Retown transformed into politics, but that's just usually what happens
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 12: on conspiracy shows.
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 6: Well, you're not, You're that far off.
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 7: Like I said that General, General swift Bell, you're talking
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 7: about earlier in the rest of the early inhabitants at
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 7: post Revolutionary War where Society Cincinnati members getting land grants
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 7: and Joe Biden's a Society Cincinnati, remember, as a result
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 7: of being the US president or you know this android
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 7: Joe Biden, what have you.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 6: Jesus?
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know if they're going to
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: let him live much longer. And I don't mean him
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: as in jail. I mean the character of Joe Biden.
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 9: You know what I mean?
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 6: I feel that's this thing round chocolate chocolate chip, ice cream?
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 4: Is that?
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 6: What is this thing?
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 7: Is this a new modern like technological advancement? We got
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 7: an android that runs on ice cream, chocolate chocolate chip.
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 11: It's possible.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 6: Isn't that what he's always eating? Why do they always
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 6: show that dude eating ice cream? Have you ever noticed
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 6: that he's.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: Like he's got.
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 11: I don't know, there's a few he wants to go
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 11: to the ice cream truck.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: He has an excuse.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: Is that their way of trying to make him look
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: more innocent?
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 9: Like what it is?
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: Man eating an ice cream goat?
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: So cute, except it gives everybody the fucking creeps, like
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 3: having the opposite effect.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: I can't take away or remove that guy from the
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: video of the guy when now I was growing up Davis,
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 2: this bad man. Everybody called him pap Pa, and uh,
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I was in the pool and the kids
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 2: you should pull the leg hairs and and I know,
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 2: I know what you know about education and poor kids
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: are just as smart as white kids. And I can't,
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 2: I can't remove the two.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 6: Cornpop was a bad dude.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: Corn Pop, that's it. Corn Pop was a bad dude.
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 2: It's like great, wait, I'm sorry.
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 6: And he ran with a bunch of bad boys too.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: I think they were asking you about the green new Deal,
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 2: big Dog, but sure, let's talk about corn Pop.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, your lifeguard, Joe, what are you talking about? Corn pop.
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 7: He's talking about fighting the locals as a lifeguarden. Some
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 7: of these tails are just sobered. I mean, it's it's
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 7: again back to the people running things are so dumb.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 7: They hired a passure you, they hired some pr agency
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 7: that cancoct this stupid corn corn pop tail because neverone
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 7: questioned it. They had a local Delaware news reporter or
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 7: do a local news report from corns Old neighborhood confirming
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 7: corn Pop did exist and not a figment of Joe's imagination.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, what that happened.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: It didn't matter if he exists wid Yeah, you know that.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 6: That was what they took from the argument. So they
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 6: took from the conversation.
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: That would be uh. You know, I'm not saying I'm
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: not necessarily pro either political party because they're both doing disgusting,
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: underhanded things behind closed doors. Right, we can all agree
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: with that, But I will say, as far as that's concerned,
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 2: the liberals are doing the mostest of being like actual retarded.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 11: I don't even understand how that's logic.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 12: The mad Scientist has something that she would love to interject,
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 12: which I think is an awesome facet to this story here.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, just very quickly because I started looking up the
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  Speaker 10: area and I saw I ran across an article that
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  Speaker 10: said the Nazi American Bund tried to buy Southbury, Connecticut
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  Speaker 10: in the late nineteen thirties. Nick and I talked about
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  Speaker 10: the Nazi American and being involved heavily in Long Island
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  Speaker 10: and with a lot of these laboratories that have been
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  Speaker 10: linked to eugenics and with children testing and what have you,
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  Speaker 10: one of them being in Montalk. But when you look
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 10: at Southbury, Connecticut and you judge the distance to Dudley Town,
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  Speaker 10: connect it's about thirty miles away.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 12: And so it was in nineteen thirty seven, which was
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  Speaker 12: around about the time that they shut it down to
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 12: the public interests.
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  Speaker 10: Well, and you know what cued me in is that
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  Speaker 10: when you said that it was established in seventeen forty seven.
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  Speaker 10: And Nick and I have gone back and forth with
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 10: the nineteen forty seven being linked to a lot of
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  Speaker 10: the German experimentation here in the States.
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  Speaker 2: Oh she, I can believe it. Project paper clip, y'all,
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  Speaker 2: it's worth the look into forty seven.
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  Speaker 8: President, this year is nineteen seventy eight, and this year
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  Speaker 8: had the same calendar, and that's forty seven years ago
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  Speaker 8: as well. Whoa yeah with that four to seven?
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Was there anything else that you guys had on that
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 8: is already over two hours? So I figured me, no,
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  Speaker 8: that's about it, yo.
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  Speaker 9: That was that was a lot. That was a lot. Yo.
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  Speaker 9: That town is fucked up something that.
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  Speaker 2: Please, it's all my bucket list of places I want
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: to go check out for myself.
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  Speaker 11: But I don't know if I'm willing to catch a
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  Speaker 11: charge for a video.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I never know.
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  Speaker 9: If you guys go, let me know, I'll go with.
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  Speaker 9: I'll go bring my equipment.
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  Speaker 2: I need a mug shot. I'm jealous of all these people.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 9: Medi we can send the drone up first, see what happens.
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's why I would go, because I would
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 9: do the drone first.
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  Speaker 11: Yes, indeed, Oh man, we gotta make it happen one
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  Speaker 11: of these days.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Let everybody know what's happen where they can find your
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 8: amazing work again, please, guys.
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  Speaker 8: Hell yeah, thank you guys very much. That was again,
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 8: that was a well presented I mean that was a
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 8: chock full of information in there, a lot of wild ship.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 8: I really having this man, Yeah yeah, that really was
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  Speaker 8: a real for real uh yeah, I'll leave your guys
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  Speaker 8: stuff in the bottom. I got I'll put every everybody here.
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  Speaker 8: Who's the links, I'll throw it in the bottom. Thank
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 8: you all again very much. I had a blast and
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 8: until the next one, everybody be well.
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  Speaker 4: Lea o