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Rihanna Told Me To Go Back · Untraditionally Lala

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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous.
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Speaker 2: It's La La Kent. Welcome to untraditionally, La La, Hello, gorgeous,
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Untraditionally, La La. I am so hyped
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Speaker 2: beyond words. As you guys know, I am very specific
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Speaker 2: when it comes to my guests, but we also know
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Speaker 2: that I am a fiend when it comes to the
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Speaker 2: Real Housewives, especially Beverly Hills. And when they introduced this
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Speaker 2: new woman who was a part of the cast, all
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Speaker 2: you had to say to me was, she's a manifestor
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Speaker 2: teaches you how and she goes by the money queen
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Speaker 2: I have, Amanda Francis.
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Speaker 1: Welcome, Thank you for having me. You're so welcome on
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Speaker 1: an trout.
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Speaker 2: Well, I have to say so when you first stepped on,
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Speaker 2: because it's a very intimidating. I don't feel like you
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Speaker 2: get intimidated. No, not easily, not easily. And you can
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Speaker 2: tell you like you are solid in who you are
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Speaker 2: and I love that. But you rattled cages. And I
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Speaker 2: had dinner with Alex back asking who you know? Oh really,
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Speaker 2: and I said, how's it going? And I asked about you,
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Speaker 2: and he goes, let's just say this, we needed her,
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Speaker 2: and I was like, excellent, excellent.
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Speaker 1: I compliment, right, great, come outlets. I'll take that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, take it. So I have to ask, what
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Speaker 2: was the first season like for you?
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Speaker 1: Awful? Like I think it's weird that we're supposed to
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, you know, it was a learning
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Speaker 1: and growing it's not very much fun. You did not
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Speaker 1: have fun, not like I can think of a few
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Speaker 1: singular moments while filming that I'm like, Okay, I was laughing,
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Speaker 1: that was fun. I was getting to know someone, I
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Speaker 1: was connecting with someone like that was enjoyable. But no,
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Speaker 1: did it look like I was having fun? Very often?
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Speaker 2: It did? Not know And I know it's a very
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Speaker 2: silly question and a stupid question, but no, it's like
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Speaker 2: a required question, but like air question. But it didn't
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Speaker 2: look fun.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: The pr response would be that I'm grateful for the
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Speaker 1: opportunity and whatever, But I'm like, no, that was miserable.
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Speaker 2: You know, not go back.
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Speaker 1: Well, we haven't decided, you know. Rihanna DMed me. Shut
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Speaker 1: the fuck.
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Speaker 2: Out of way. Hold on, this is a whole podcast
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Speaker 2: in itself.
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Speaker 1: What did she say? She said, come back, we need you.
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Speaker 1: You will get your redemption, trust me. I know. Bagg
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Speaker 1: reb herself.
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Speaker 2: If I had pearls, I'd be a clutching what.
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Speaker 1: I know you too?
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: It definitely swayed me a little, it really did, and Eddie,
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Speaker 1: so Eddie didn't think I should go back, and my
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Speaker 1: husband because he's just worried, he's concerned.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes up.
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Speaker 1: The show takes up not just a lot of your time,
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Speaker 1: but a lot of your psychological space. And that's something
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Speaker 1: that's really hard to understand, probably if you haven't been
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Speaker 1: through it. But like, I'm someone who likes to figure
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Speaker 1: things out, make sense of things, wrap my head around things.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't wrap my head around what it was like
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Speaker 1: the whole season, like what is my job here?
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Speaker 2: Totally?
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Speaker 1: Are we getting to know each other and bonding or
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Speaker 1: are we like doing secret strategy takedowns? Like what is this?
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Speaker 1: And I don't watch Bravo. I didn't really know a lot.
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Speaker 1: And maybe I should have, but probably not, because then
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Speaker 1: I would have I would have probably said no. If
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Speaker 1: I would have thought my job was to have takedowns
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Speaker 1: or whatnot, I would have said, I'm not taking them.
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Speaker 1: Other women, it's just not who I am. I'm not
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Speaker 1: even be able to pretend to be that because I'm
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Speaker 1: not that you know, then, how did you.
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Speaker 2: Fall into it? If you didn't watch Bravo.
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Speaker 1: I bought Kyle's house like December of twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 1: and it's like I had just done a few episodes
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Speaker 1: on Selling Sunset when I bought Kyle's house, So like
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Speaker 1: Reality Show World was like on my mind and I
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Speaker 1: had in the very back of my head, wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: interesting if this led to something someday. I was not
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Speaker 1: thinking I will be on a show with Kyle Richards.
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Speaker 2: Would you call that manifesting in that moment?
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Speaker 1: Oh, let's tell the whole story. Then, let's tell the
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Speaker 1: whole story.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to learn.
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Speaker 1: Okay, No, can I like I can be really woo
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Speaker 1: woo like your audience.
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Speaker 2: I'm a woo woo weird.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's be weird. No, so I move into Kyle's house.
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Speaker 1: I think that's interesting because at the time I am
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Speaker 1: manifesting reality television, I am I do really deeply believe.
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Speaker 1: Like the first time I ever wrote in one of
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Speaker 1: my desires lists, I make these like lists of what
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Speaker 1: I'm manifesting. Okay, the first time I ever wrote down
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Speaker 1: reality show was like twenty sixteen, So I mean like
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Speaker 1: this has been something I believed I would have or
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Speaker 1: create at some point forever. So I buy Kyle's house.
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Speaker 1: I had just done selling Sunset. I'm thinking, like what
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Speaker 1: I believe I meant to be on television? What does
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Speaker 1: that mean for me? What does that look like? I
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Speaker 1: don't really know. But I went and saw an energy
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Speaker 1: hiller who felt like she should clear the vibes from
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Speaker 1: the house. She's like, a lot has been filmed there,
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Speaker 1: a lot has gone on there, like let me do
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Speaker 1: a clearing of the house. And then she said, there
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Speaker 1: are gifts for you inside of this house. There are
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Speaker 1: like energetic like like impartations like knowing, like knowledge like
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Speaker 1: the who this person had never seen the show, whoever
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Speaker 1: lived there before you is leaving like gifts for you,
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Speaker 1: like information for you around how to be on televis,
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Speaker 1: be a businesswoman, have kids? Like the person who lived
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Speaker 1: here before you knows things that you're going to need
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Speaker 1: to know.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And I was just like I know nothing about the
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Speaker 1: Kyle or to showed it. I'm just thinking like, well,
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Speaker 1: that's interesting, Like I'll take the like we call that
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Speaker 1: codes right, like yeah, like have you heard the phrase
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Speaker 1: before the phrase codes mean like people say, I have
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Speaker 1: the money codes all the time, Like I have a
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Speaker 1: lot of innate knowing and understanding around the energy of money.
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Speaker 1: That's like how okay it would be described. They're saying,
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Speaker 1: the person before you had some like codes, some knowledge,
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Speaker 1: some something that you're going to pick up on by
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Speaker 1: living here, and that's going to mean something to you.
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Speaker 1: That would be the woo, the like the wou side
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Speaker 1: of what happens.
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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with everything that's happening right now.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So when I forget about that, like you you
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Speaker 1: like an energy hill Hiller tells you that, you say, fine,
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Speaker 1: but then like, I'm not thinking about that all the
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Speaker 1: time totally right, So I forget about this for years,
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Speaker 1: Like years go by. I still believe that someday I'll
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Speaker 1: be on television that I meant to that there's something
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Speaker 1: there for me. I don't know what. It'll be a
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Speaker 1: lot of dolls. I guess I'm like not actively manifesting it.
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Speaker 1: But it's like it's like what I call holding on
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Speaker 1: loosely when you believe, like you've put the intention out
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Speaker 1: there like it's in the ethers. You think it's your destiny,
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Speaker 1: but you don't.
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Speaker 2: Like.
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Speaker 1: An active manifestation is when I like, I believe I
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Speaker 1: can have this and I can have it this month.
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Speaker 1: And for me, it's like God, Angel's universe, like what
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Speaker 1: would you have me do to create this? Now it's
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Speaker 1: like a very like active manifestation. Okay, this wasn't that.
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Speaker 1: This was like I believe it all happen someday. Let's see.
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Speaker 1: I thought the television part of my life would come
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Speaker 1: way way later, like when my kids weren't little, Like,
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Speaker 1: this is not something I thought I would do. I
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Speaker 1: have like two under two at home, right, that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: So then one day I get a text message a
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Speaker 1: girl who is in my courses who credits me for
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Speaker 1: her success. She's an entertainment attorney and like the way
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Speaker 1: I helped her believe in herself, believe that she was
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Speaker 1: worthy of money and business in life, she wanted like
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Speaker 1: she credits me with who she is today. She got
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Speaker 1: a call from a casting agent that she knows, and
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Speaker 1: they're like, do you know anyone that would want to
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Speaker 1: be in our house is Beverly Hills, And she's like,
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Speaker 1: one person's coming to mind. She bought Kyle's house and
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Speaker 1: the casting agent was like that's a great connection. Would
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Speaker 1: she do it? And she was like, probably not, but
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Speaker 1: I can. I can text. She texted my friend Kara.
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Speaker 1: She's like, I know someone who knows her. Let me text. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so Kara. She texts Kara. Kara texts me. I say no,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to fight with other women on television.
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Speaker 1: Are you mean nuts? And then she said Lauren, that's
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Speaker 1: the entertainment attorney. Lauren says, just get on the phone
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Speaker 1: with her and the casting agent, like, just do a
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Speaker 1: quick call. I was like, okay, now it goes yeah,
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Speaker 1: check the vibes. But it goes so fast from there.
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Speaker 1: You do the phone call, they say, well, let's just
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Speaker 1: shoot like the casting tape. You shoot the casting tape.
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Speaker 1: They say, well, why don't you just have a conversation
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Speaker 1: with the showrunner. You have a conversation with the showrunner.
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Speaker 1: You're the text or an email at that point that
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Speaker 1: said can you come into NBC Universal for a final meeting?
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Speaker 1: Wonderful And the next thing you know, your real housewife
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Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills.
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Speaker 2: It's great.
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Speaker 1: But that whole like from the text message to I
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Speaker 1: need a film at Jennifer Tilly's house was like two
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Speaker 1: and a half weeks.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a whole different summer plan last summer.
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Speaker 1: We had our beach house in Newport. We were gonna
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Speaker 1: spend the whole summer in Newport. I wasn't gonna go
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Speaker 1: back to LA at all all summer. So it was
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Speaker 1: like this, it was this dream I had created. I
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Speaker 1: always had this like manifestation, this like dream of We'll
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Speaker 1: have our summer on Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard or the
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Speaker 1: Hampton's and I had been to all those places, but
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Speaker 1: that's really hard when you live in LA. Right, Yes,
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Speaker 1: But then I discovered your kids in travel it's a lot.
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Speaker 1: I discovered a little island in Newport where we now
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Speaker 1: have a home, like we I signed a year lease,
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Speaker 1: and so it was the summer of the year lease, right,
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Speaker 1: And I was like just not going to leave Newport
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Speaker 1: all summer. And I was like, I'm going to drive
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Speaker 1: back to LA to film like god knows how many
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Speaker 1: times a week, multiple, Right. So yeah, I'm like a
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Speaker 1: little irritated about that. So there's part of me going, Amanda,
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Speaker 1: this is a unique opportunity. This is something that doesn't
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Speaker 1: happen to everyone. This is something you have been manifesting.
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Speaker 1: You probably wouldn't have pick Housewives, but you would have
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Speaker 1: picked like like a ver you knew a version of
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Speaker 1: this was going to be in your life, like you
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Speaker 1: have to seize the day on it, Like what I like,
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Speaker 1: who's are you going to say?
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Speaker 2: No? Well? And that's but I'm also in this stage
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Speaker 2: of life where it's just everything's a yes, because I'm like,
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Speaker 2: why is where I get woo? I'm like, everything is
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Speaker 2: for a reason.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Timing does not happen by mistake. So if something is
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Speaker 2: entering my life and maybe I have another plan, there's
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Speaker 2: a reason why it's happening, and I'm not supposed to
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Speaker 2: go do that other thing that I had planned.
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Speaker 1: They have theories on this. There's a book on this
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Speaker 1: called the Year of Yes. Yeah, there's this theory where
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Speaker 1: see what happens when you just say yes to everything
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Speaker 1: and see what it creates? Like see what the universe
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Speaker 1: is presenting you?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, the people I know who've tried this theory
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Speaker 1: have loved what it created for them.
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Speaker 2: Well, I know that your experience on Housewives this season
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Speaker 2: was not great, No, but a watcher fabulous.
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Speaker 1: Thank you tell me why it was fabulous?
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Speaker 2: Because you definitely rubbed people the wrong way, which is
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Speaker 2: very fun to watch.
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Speaker 1: Okay, right, people, but yeah, like why are they triggered?
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Speaker 1: Like what has happened?
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Speaker 2: I mean the people in the group. Yes, I'm kind
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Speaker 2: of off, like the social media of it all. So
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Speaker 2: I don't know what the feedback was from, like viewers.
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Speaker 2: I just know what I was watching, and I know
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Speaker 2: what I like to watch, and when I'm consuming Bravo,
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Speaker 2: I know why I'm there, which is to have a
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Speaker 2: strong personality enter the group and have feathers be fucking ruffled.
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Speaker 1: And why is that fun?
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Speaker 2: It's just an addiction and it's part of the Bravo universe.
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Speaker 2: There's just something iconic and wonderful about it, and moments
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Speaker 2: that maybe right then are like ooh, or I wish
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done that. Later on become like the
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Speaker 2: most iconic television on the planet, and we love to
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Speaker 2: see the rise and fall of people. It sounds toxic,
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Speaker 2: and it is. It is. It's a very toxic way
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Speaker 2: of thinking, right, but it always comes full circle. So
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Speaker 2: if you were misunderstood by the group this time, I think,
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Speaker 2: how wonderful that it happened your first season because it
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Speaker 2: wasn't want to go go it up? Right?
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Speaker 1: I think it was. Yes, I think it was a
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Speaker 1: rough first season that ended on a high note. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I had a great reunion.
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Speaker 2: The reunion was great.
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Speaker 1: I felt like there was resolution reunion. To me, it
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Speaker 1: felt like I just knew how to exist in that
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Speaker 1: world and still be me. Because here's what I'm thinking
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Speaker 1: at the dinner tables while we were still filming. I'm thinking, like,
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna yell at you. I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: cuss you out. I'm not going to get all dysregulated.
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Speaker 1: That's not who I am. So how do I stand
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Speaker 1: up to you while still being me? Because the way
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Speaker 1: you guys stand up to each other is not making
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Speaker 1: any sense to me, Like that's it's just not right.
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Speaker 2: I'm the type of person where I get two finger
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Speaker 2: guns in your face and start going fucking I'm trying.
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Speaker 2: That makes great television blackout, Well, if only it happened
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Speaker 2: just on top of the shut That's just who I am, bab.
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Speaker 2: But I did enjoy watching just I find also with
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Speaker 2: watching reality TV is how perspective is just the end
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Speaker 2: all be all of most relationships that we form. Something
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Speaker 2: can happen and the way you look at it or
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Speaker 2: hear it is going to be completely different from the
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Speaker 2: person that you're having the conversation with. So that dynamic
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Speaker 2: between like you, Dree, You and Bose which was crazy
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Speaker 2: and I want to dive into. There's so much I
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Speaker 2: want to die, like my mind million miles an hour.
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Speaker 2: I just liked watching you, and it was it's very
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Speaker 2: rare that you can have someone for me on TV
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Speaker 2: where you don't get dysregulated, but you still have my
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Speaker 2: attention here.
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Speaker 1: I am right, yeah, I mean, I don't know how
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Speaker 1: else to be. But what I liked about the night
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Speaker 1: in Italy, I call it the ping Pong pizza dinner
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Speaker 1: in my head because we're eating pizza and I learned
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Speaker 1: how to play ping pong meaning energetic ping pong meaning
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Speaker 1: no matter what you throw at or conversation, whatever, no
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Speaker 1: matter what you throw at me, I'm gonna throw it
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Speaker 1: back to you. Because what was happening at the dinner
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Speaker 1: tables was people were saying shit to me, and I
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Speaker 1: was like, I don't care that much about what Dari
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Speaker 1: thinks of me. I don't know what even to say
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Speaker 1: right now other than I didn't mean to harm you.
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Speaker 1: To eat and I want the best for you, which
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Speaker 1: is not good television. Right by that dinner, we were
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Speaker 1: all eating pizza and Bo's does the whole your life
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Speaker 1: is not pure, you are not being honest about your
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Speaker 1: life or whatever, and I'm like going back and forth
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Speaker 1: with her. By that night I was like, I can
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Speaker 1: do this. I just say whatever is true, whatever is real,
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Speaker 1: and whatever. I just say whatever I really feel without
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Speaker 1: insulting and yelling and name calling because that will never
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Speaker 1: be me. And that night I was like, Okay, I
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Speaker 1: did it. Like I found my therapist and Kyle and
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Speaker 1: multiple people were like mentioned this idea of like television,
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Speaker 1: Amanda like me and Kyle had to come over station
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Speaker 1: where she told me about like TV Kyle handles it
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Speaker 1: a little bit different than Kyle. Kyle Kyle handles it.
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Speaker 1: And my therapist was kind of hitting out the same thing,
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Speaker 1: like regular you isn't really what is probably going to
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Speaker 1: be the end result here, It's going to be a
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Speaker 1: you on TV that is still real. And by that
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Speaker 1: night I felt like I got it, And so by
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Speaker 1: the reunion, I was like, say anything to me. I'll
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Speaker 1: just tell you what I think about it. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean it's true. It doesn't mean it's real. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean you can harm me.
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Speaker 2: Right, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Because early in the season, I'm like, are you trying
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Speaker 1: to hurt me? Like you just met me? What have
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Speaker 1: I done to you? I don't get what we're doing here.
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Speaker 1: By the reunion, I was like, people are going to
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Speaker 1: try to bring up dirt. That's the show, So ping
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Speaker 1: pong it back without because it'll never be be me
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Speaker 1: without trying to take them down.
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Speaker 2: Totally, because I just and it's a fine line.
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Speaker 1: I just can't. I just don't want any I don't
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Speaker 1: want to see another woman go down because it's something
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Speaker 1: I brought up on a show.
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Speaker 2: I totally get that.
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Speaker 1: That's like not going to be the thing I do.
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Speaker 2: Who would you say you were? Obviously you and Bose
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Speaker 2: were not connecting.
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Speaker 1: Any stupidest thing about that, like really annoying is I
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Speaker 1: don't think that's accurate. I think that is almost a
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Speaker 1: result of television. Because the first time I sat down
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Speaker 1: with Bose, it was that lunch with me and Bose
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Speaker 1: and Deuritte, and I was encouraging dread right, and like,
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Speaker 1: why no one thinks I'm a financial planner?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: Like no one thought I was going to give her
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Speaker 1: advice on like what you know how that She's like,
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Speaker 1: what is this fru freu mess? Like no one thinks
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Speaker 1: I'm a financial planner. I was encouraging her that if
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Speaker 1: you don't know what's in savings and you don't know
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Speaker 1: what's investments, and you don't know like what's going on
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Speaker 1: with your money, like get your head on straight, Like
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Speaker 1: who are you going to be? Where you going to decide?
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Speaker 1: What outcome do you want?
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Speaker 3: Here?
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Speaker 1: Like it was a great talk and in real life
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Speaker 1: boss going amen, Yeah, she was agreeing with me as
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Speaker 1: I'm encouraging Deriat. And then Bose and I are quoting
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Speaker 1: Bible verses back and forth to each other, and we're
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Speaker 1: talking about manifestation from a biblical perspective because honestly, we
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Speaker 1: have a lot in common with our Christian backgrounds. Right,
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Speaker 1: So Bose and I actually got along like great. And
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Speaker 1: I think if there was no show without the show
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Speaker 1: of it all, I think like I would have loved
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Speaker 1: to hear more about what her badass Bo's workshop thing
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Speaker 1: had been about and how it was going, and if
16:15
Speaker 1: she had run outs and if she was doing email market,
16:17
Speaker 1: Like there's parts of me as the online entrepreneur that
16:21
Speaker 1: would have had so many questions and so many felt
16:23
Speaker 1: like I think there was just probably common ground, and
16:27
Speaker 1: it felt like it got all distorted. It seems like
16:29
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that way.
16:30
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Yes, but there's two things
16:33
Speaker 2: happening at once. And I always say you have to
16:34
Speaker 2: when you enter this world, you have to be able
16:36
Speaker 2: to separate reality from reality because even though what goes
16:41
Speaker 2: on on the show is very much real life, right
16:43
Speaker 2: these things and conversations are happening, there's.
16:46
Speaker 1: Your real response to the situation you really are in
16:49
Speaker 1: one that it's not your real life, because these are
16:52
Speaker 1: my real life.
16:53
Speaker 2: I go home to two children, you go home to
16:56
Speaker 2: four children, and it's just as different. How do you
17:00
Speaker 2: let the worlds bleed into each other? It can become
17:03
Speaker 2: very suffocating. Yeah, So back to what your therapist said,
17:06
Speaker 2: and Kyle, when I step into film, I have to
17:09
Speaker 2: do the exact same thing because it's self preservation. It
17:12
Speaker 2: is not normal to go into a group of women
17:15
Speaker 2: where you guys all have very strong personalities and then
17:19
Speaker 2: you allow a bunch of random people who are watching
17:21
Speaker 2: to then insert their opinion. You have totally some sort
17:26
Speaker 2: of like you got to become a Sasha fears like beyond.
17:30
Speaker 1: Right, all of that you just said true, And then
17:32
Speaker 1: there's so many other layers that, like it's really hard
17:34
Speaker 1: to wrap your head around. There's producers, you know, with
17:37
Speaker 1: spring things in people ear like I'm not even saying
17:39
Speaker 1: in a manipulative way, just in keeping storylines moving forward,
17:42
Speaker 1: Like remember how you felt when you saw dury last
17:45
Speaker 1: might be said to you. Remember you said this and
17:47
Speaker 1: she said this, might be said to you as you're
17:49
Speaker 1: walking into like film again, Like that also doesn't happen
17:52
Speaker 1: in real life. In real life, we're probably getting over
17:55
Speaker 1: things and processing battles. Yeah, totally of picking my battles, right,
18:00
Speaker 1: So that's different. And then also interviews, interviews don't happen
18:04
Speaker 1: in real life.
18:05
Speaker 2: You don't get Andy's notes in real life.
18:08
Speaker 1: For the next interview.
18:09
Speaker 2: Here's your cue, car, I'm gonna ask you all of
18:11
Speaker 2: these questions.
18:13
Speaker 1: I so all of these layers, and then media and
18:16
Speaker 1: then social media and then reddit and fan opinions. Yeah,
18:20
Speaker 1: this creates this very interesting thing, right, so.
18:23
Speaker 2: You have all of that going on, but then which
18:27
Speaker 2: is very much real life, But then we watch as
18:31
Speaker 2: your actual real life comes into play while filming, which
18:35
Speaker 2: is the passing of your child, which I'm not gonna stop. Sorry,
18:41
Speaker 2: I don't know why that just came to me, Like
18:47
Speaker 2: how how were you able to be like, I'm going
18:50
Speaker 2: to go and film with this group while hitting a
18:56
Speaker 2: day of just like the ultimate morning.
19:00
Speaker 1: Well, I was really naive, so I hadn't had any
19:05
Speaker 1: negativity yet. No one had thrown anything at me yet.
19:09
Speaker 1: I had not had one like accusation Amanda tell me
19:11
Speaker 1: about this. So I knew logically that that kind of
19:15
Speaker 1: thing happened on this show, but I didn't think it
19:17
Speaker 1: would be coming at me. Kyle said something to me like,
19:21
Speaker 1: get your mind off it. Come to the dinner. I
19:23
Speaker 1: made sure all the producers knew what day. It was,
19:26
Speaker 1: like everyone knew and then you know, you didn't see it.
19:29
Speaker 1: But Erica came up to me early that night and said,
19:32
Speaker 1: what's going on with you? And I said, you know,
19:34
Speaker 1: it's anniversary of Zion Staff I told her. So it's
19:36
Speaker 1: not like it was a secret, So it's not like
19:39
Speaker 1: the whole I don't know people act like I was
19:41
Speaker 1: withholding it then using it as leverage.
19:44
Speaker 2: You said at the very beginning of the season, when
19:46
Speaker 2: like the audience really met you.
19:50
Speaker 1: Oh, I told everyone straight away a child, Yeah, because
19:53
Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a what's the phrase, like
19:56
Speaker 1: elephant in the room or something. It's like I find
19:58
Speaker 1: in new relationships. I don't know if I do it
20:00
Speaker 1: correctly or not, but sometimes when I'm meeting someone for
20:02
Speaker 1: the first time or forming a friendship that I think's
20:05
Speaker 1: going to be in my life, I tell them about
20:08
Speaker 1: Zion Kinder early on, because if I don't let someone
20:11
Speaker 1: know early on, then there's this awkward moment where I
20:14
Speaker 1: mentioned that I had a twin pregnancy and they know
20:16
Speaker 1: I don't have a twin right right, So I kind
20:19
Speaker 1: of just tell people like as soon as it comes up.
20:23
Speaker 1: It makes it easier going forward. They don't accidentally say
20:26
Speaker 1: something like hurtful later, you.
20:29
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
20:30
Speaker 1: So that's what I do. So I told all the
20:31
Speaker 1: women the very first night. I thought, Okay, well, now
20:34
Speaker 1: everyone knows. So later when pregnancies come up, kids come up,
20:38
Speaker 1: like I was still still that it was less than
20:40
Speaker 1: two years old. We're filming like she's only a year
20:42
Speaker 1: and a half, so I'm still technically postpartum, right, yeah,
20:44
Speaker 1: So I'm just thinking like, no, matter what happens from here,
20:46
Speaker 1: everyone knows. And then filming on the anniversary of the death.
20:50
Speaker 1: I really thought would be fine because nothing had occurred yet.
20:53
Speaker 1: I didn't know that someone was saying to Sutton, Hey, Sutton,
20:57
Speaker 1: go tell to read what Amanda said, when Amanda never
20:59
Speaker 1: really said anything, right, you know, I feel kind of
21:02
Speaker 1: set up on that night, honestly.
21:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's where it does, because when you're dealing
21:10
Speaker 2: with something like that, which is very much your real life,
21:12
Speaker 2: you're still showing up and having to film what's going
21:16
Speaker 2: on within the group, and like, we know you're going
21:17
Speaker 2: through something, but like, remember that dinner you guys had,
21:20
Speaker 2: We're gonna need to talk about what was said there.
21:22
Speaker 2: And that's like during that dinner, I didn't understand why
21:28
Speaker 2: anyone thought that you were like pulling that out at
21:31
Speaker 2: the perfect time, because when you said I'm hanging on
21:33
Speaker 2: by a thread, I just could see it.
21:35
Speaker 1: In your eyes and hang by a thread?
21:36
Speaker 2: Oh, could you really want to be hanging on by
21:38
Speaker 2: a thread?
21:38
Speaker 1: And it's just the timing of it, right, Like I
21:40
Speaker 1: go talk to the psychic. I headed off with the psychic. Angie,
21:44
Speaker 1: She's I still know her. She's wonderful. I headed off
21:46
Speaker 1: with the psychic. I asked her if she's getting anything
21:49
Speaker 1: for me about Zion. I think maybe there's a chance
21:51
Speaker 1: there's a message, right, like, wouldn't that be beautiful?
21:53
Speaker 2: Yeah?
21:54
Speaker 1: Nothing comes through. So I'm crying, and then I go
21:57
Speaker 1: cry in the bathroom and then I dry my tears.
21:59
Speaker 1: I sit at the time the second I set down.
22:01
Speaker 1: Derey is like Amanda, like I, and so when I'm
22:04
Speaker 1: saying to her, it's not a good day, I cannot
22:06
Speaker 1: even wrap my head around what you're saying. It's because
22:09
Speaker 1: I couldn't even wrap my head around what she was saying,
22:10
Speaker 1: like I need to be let's table it right, because listen,
22:14
Speaker 1: had I formed some really strong opinion about Durte and
22:17
Speaker 1: her ex and whatever, and it was an opinion I
22:19
Speaker 1: was holding or whatever, I probably would have been prepared
22:21
Speaker 1: to talk about it. But I didn't remember saying anything
22:24
Speaker 1: bad about her. So then I spend the whole rest
22:27
Speaker 1: of the season worried that I said something horrible about
22:30
Speaker 1: Durrete at Kathy's house that I'm not remembering right, and
22:33
Speaker 1: now the fans are going to see what I actually said.
22:35
Speaker 1: And then I watched the scene at Kathy's and I
22:37
Speaker 1: didn't say anything when you.
22:40
Speaker 2: I remembered it, right.
22:41
Speaker 1: I remembered it perfectly right.
22:43
Speaker 2: The worst feeling where you're like, I feel like I'm
22:45
Speaker 2: being guessed, and then you start I feel.
22:47
Speaker 1: Like crazy, did I see something?
22:49
Speaker 2: Like now I already.
22:51
Speaker 1: Love what because now I satched? Now I feel great.
22:54
Speaker 1: Well now that we had that situation at Kathy's with Deret,
22:56
Speaker 1: and then there was one thing with Rachel and I
22:58
Speaker 1: guess like three things with bows between and like the
23:00
Speaker 1: mask and the I'd lose money on my course, whatever
23:05
Speaker 1: the mom thing. By the time we got through the reunion,
23:08
Speaker 1: I was like Amanda France's you remembered everything right. Actually,
23:12
Speaker 1: you trust yourself like you trust yourself like none of
23:15
Speaker 1: us remembers everything perfectly ever, but you remember how you
23:19
Speaker 1: felt and you remember what the energy of the moment was.
23:22
Speaker 1: Like trust that, but like we don't normally have cameras
23:27
Speaker 1: to validate whether we remember it right.
23:28
Speaker 2: It's so wonderful. So well, it's wonderful roll the tape,
23:32
Speaker 2: but it was wonderful in.
23:33
Speaker 1: My case because I was trying to remember things accurately
23:35
Speaker 1: and I was always trying to tell the truth. So
23:37
Speaker 1: when I did remember things accurately. It was like trust yourself.
23:41
Speaker 2: You know. Once it aired. Did you get a message
23:44
Speaker 2: or anything from Deury?
23:45
Speaker 3: No?
23:46
Speaker 2: Are you guys okay after the reunion?
23:48
Speaker 1: I haven't talked. I don't think thinking about each other.
23:50
Speaker 2: Are you contact with anybody?
23:52
Speaker 1: Do you think me and read are sitting around thinking
23:53
Speaker 1: about one of the.
23:55
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what the girls of
23:57
Speaker 2: BAH are sitting around thinking about.
23:59
Speaker 1: No, I've seen I saw Kathy. Kathy and I have
24:04
Speaker 1: her grandkids and my kids are in the same school.
24:08
Speaker 1: Three of her grandkids and my two youngest kids go
24:10
Speaker 1: to the same school.
24:10
Speaker 2: Right.
24:11
Speaker 1: So I was at Kathy's for her grandson's birthday party,
24:14
Speaker 1: super cute, and Kathy and I talked about all kinds
24:17
Speaker 1: of stuff.
24:18
Speaker 2: Show.
24:18
Speaker 1: Kathy's wonderful. We talked about show.
24:20
Speaker 2: It's very easy.
24:21
Speaker 1: She's just actually she's great, Like she really has this
24:25
Speaker 1: like great I think, very maternal, big sister mentor like
24:29
Speaker 1: I'm here vibe. Yeah, and kind of the one that
24:31
Speaker 1: answers the phone, kind of them that calls you and
24:33
Speaker 1: checks up on I just think she's a vibe. Jennifer
24:36
Speaker 1: has been great to me. She's been filming, but we
24:40
Speaker 1: at the Reduni, We're like, okay, we're gonna get lunch
24:42
Speaker 1: when you get back from New York. I don't know,
24:43
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm on okay terms with plenty
24:46
Speaker 1: of people, but like, I don't think a lot of
24:51
Speaker 1: the cast is hanging out when we're not filming anyway.
24:54
Speaker 1: I don't think any of the casts is hanging out
24:55
Speaker 1: or not except what I guess in real life, like
24:58
Speaker 1: Sutton and Jennifer hang out with our friends in real life,
25:01
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, real real life.
25:14
Speaker 2: I do have to ask, when you watched the season back,
25:17
Speaker 2: was there any point in time that you looked at
25:20
Speaker 2: certain things that you said and thought, I wish I
25:24
Speaker 2: wouldn't have said that.
25:26
Speaker 1: I watched the first so I didn't watch. Oh I watched,
25:33
Speaker 1: I didn't watch after Sedona?
25:36
Speaker 2: What was the reasoning? Too hard?
25:38
Speaker 1: I hated that, Like I thought my Sedona was just
25:41
Speaker 1: a very like cringey like depiction of who I am, okay,
25:49
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm just I'm just not gonna watch,
25:52
Speaker 1: just not gonna do this to myself.
25:53
Speaker 2: That's very interesting though, because I did.
25:55
Speaker 1: Not Sidona was the ten thousand dollars on crystals, which
26:00
Speaker 1: was like we were looking at the bottom of the crystals,
26:02
Speaker 1: deciding which ones we were going to buy, and I was like,
26:04
Speaker 1: I spent ten thousand non crystals in one sitting, but
26:06
Speaker 1: like that in context of looking at how expensive they were,
26:09
Speaker 1: that was a normal thing to say in a conversation.
26:12
Speaker 1: And then it was the I have sun skin in
26:15
Speaker 1: my Chanel backpack, which in context is cute and funny
26:19
Speaker 1: to go hiking and have sun skin in your Chanel backpack.
26:22
Speaker 1: Like the juxtaposition of that, Like me and my friends
26:24
Speaker 1: find that funny.
26:26
Speaker 2: But can I tell you when I first entered the
26:29
Speaker 2: last show that I was on and I showed up
26:32
Speaker 2: as myself and no one thought that I was funny.
26:35
Speaker 2: And I remember looking around being like my friend's back
26:38
Speaker 2: in Utah. I think I am a hoo and a half.
26:40
Speaker 1: I like I am hilarious, like once you know my humor,
26:44
Speaker 1: Like people were recre little clips of my courses, just
26:47
Speaker 1: little things I say where I'm teaching, not even meaning to,
26:49
Speaker 1: and like put it like DM me or put it
26:51
Speaker 1: on Instagram, be like you are so funny, Like being
26:53
Speaker 1: funny is part of like my personality. I think my identity,
26:57
Speaker 1: like I I identify, I get it yet yeah, the girls.
27:00
Speaker 1: But if your wheelmor is a little dry, yes, then
27:03
Speaker 1: you can very easily crop something and make it seem
27:06
Speaker 1: like it's serious.
27:07
Speaker 2: One person I remember, after like a couple of years
27:12
Speaker 2: had gone by, finally my group that I also filmed
27:16
Speaker 2: a show with, they were like, oh, oh, this is
27:20
Speaker 2: just like your thing.
27:23
Speaker 1: This is like this is like one of her her bits.
27:26
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, And when a new person would come in,
27:28
Speaker 2: they'd be like that Lala, and they're like, no, no, she's
27:30
Speaker 2: just being She's being a lot. That's just her bit,
27:32
Speaker 2: like she's spinny this way. I think that will happen.
27:34
Speaker 2: I think you choose to go back, people are going
27:37
Speaker 2: to get.
27:37
Speaker 1: You well, I think so. I think a lot of
27:39
Speaker 1: things are working in my favorite with that more they
27:41
Speaker 1: saw me be consistent the whole season. They saw me
27:44
Speaker 1: like continue to be the like it's clear that I
27:47
Speaker 1: was just being myself by the end of the season.
27:48
Speaker 1: You get that. That helps. I think a lot of
27:50
Speaker 1: people have come over to my social media and so
27:52
Speaker 1: now they get more of the humor, more of the
27:54
Speaker 1: personality through just like my content, and a lot of
27:57
Speaker 1: people have taken a chance like on my work, read
27:59
Speaker 1: my book or a bought like a five dollars offer
28:02
Speaker 1: twenty Like I just did this twenty one day manifestation
28:05
Speaker 1: program that was twenty one modules for twenty one dollars
28:07
Speaker 1: and we had over five thousand people sign up, and
28:10
Speaker 1: a lot we're from the Bravo world, So I think
28:12
Speaker 1: the Bravo people are going like, Oh, this is what
28:15
Speaker 1: she teaches and how she teaches it, and this is
28:17
Speaker 1: what she does, and this is her humor and this
28:20
Speaker 1: is her with her family. I think they're getting more context. Yeah,
28:23
Speaker 1: and it's making more sense to people. And you're not
28:24
Speaker 1: going to win them all and I don't need to. Yeah,
28:27
Speaker 1: but it's going to be clear that, like you're saying,
28:29
Speaker 1: you just being you, it's gonna be clear that I'm
28:31
Speaker 1: just being me. Because what I said to production in
28:34
Speaker 1: the show runner and a lot of people in a
28:35
Speaker 1: lot of moments was I don't know how to be
28:37
Speaker 1: anything with me.
28:40
Speaker 2: I met someone who fakes it very well.
28:42
Speaker 1: I don't really know how, you know, like I don't
28:45
Speaker 1: have I will never be someone capable of like playing
28:48
Speaker 1: a character. You know.
28:50
Speaker 2: I don't think you need to.
28:51
Speaker 1: It's not within me, right, I think some people do.
28:53
Speaker 1: I think people show up to the show of like
28:55
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the girl's girl and I'm going
28:57
Speaker 1: to take this dance and it's every scene. Make sure you.
29:01
Speaker 2: Think that it's much more calculated then you're capable of.
29:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm intentional. I have intentions. I've been planned, but like, yeah,
29:08
Speaker 1: I can't fake it.
29:10
Speaker 2: I think we all saw that. I mean, I don't
29:12
Speaker 2: think you can fake being calm, cool and collected. Thank you. Well.
29:17
Speaker 1: Think I have a background in therapy, right, Like I've
29:19
Speaker 1: been mastering counseling. So that means you have people to
29:22
Speaker 1: sit there and your client is telling you crazy stuff
29:25
Speaker 1: and you can't show it on your face. No, you
29:26
Speaker 1: have to be You have to collect your thoughts and
29:28
Speaker 1: figure out what you are gonna say to them, like
29:31
Speaker 1: what is most helpful for them to be heard and
29:33
Speaker 1: understood in that moment, which might not be your shockun
29:36
Speaker 1: off face.
29:37
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. No, you can't have that,
29:39
Speaker 2: So like I have that, and then I don't know.
29:41
Speaker 1: I'm just I am. I've done a lot of internal
29:43
Speaker 1: like work on myself. I am a regulated person. I
29:45
Speaker 1: don't fill off the handle easily.
29:47
Speaker 2: What made you want to get into the business of
29:49
Speaker 2: like turning manifesting into like your livelihood.
29:54
Speaker 1: Well, I never really decided to do that, like, okay,
29:58
Speaker 1: it just happened kind of damn, I mean honestly. So
30:02
Speaker 1: I'm in my master's program. I started coaching business, so
30:05
Speaker 1: I'm life coaching like part time and on the side,
30:08
Speaker 1: I do that through my master's program. Then I get
30:10
Speaker 1: into my dream PhD program and my business is growing
30:13
Speaker 1: like quickly, and I'm like, I think I have to
30:15
Speaker 1: choose business or PhD. So I was like, PhD's not
30:17
Speaker 1: going to help me help more people or make more money.
30:20
Speaker 1: I think I have to do this online. I think
30:22
Speaker 1: I like, I just sensed and I was right that
30:25
Speaker 1: this was the time to go big on the internet,
30:27
Speaker 1: Like there weren't a lot of.
30:31
Speaker 2: I don't know.
30:31
Speaker 1: I just had a feeling that like I could make
30:34
Speaker 1: a name for myself or whatever, and I was right.
30:36
Speaker 1: But I have But I have like three thousand people
30:39
Speaker 1: on Instagram as I'm feeling this, So this isn't based
30:41
Speaker 1: on any logic or reason.
30:43
Speaker 2: I just love it.
30:44
Speaker 1: This is love it, this is my vibe, right, this
30:46
Speaker 1: is totally delusional manifestie. I'm going to go all in
30:50
Speaker 1: on my cell vipes. So I quit my PhD program,
30:54
Speaker 1: I go big on my business and I'm like, Okay,
30:56
Speaker 1: so far my clients have come from flyers. Iying like
31:01
Speaker 1: feeling stuck. I'm Amanda Francis, call me for life coaching
31:04
Speaker 1: flyers at every Starbucks in Dallas every week for like
31:08
Speaker 1: over eight years, Texas. I'm from Oklahoma, but I went
31:10
Speaker 1: to grad school in Texas.
31:11
Speaker 2: Okay, got it? Yeah?
31:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, So all it was from referrals and flyers all
31:17
Speaker 1: my clients, and I'm like, okay, I figure out how
31:19
Speaker 1: to promote myself online. So I'd been practicing this like
31:25
Speaker 1: through grad school, but I was like, I got to
31:26
Speaker 1: go big on this with how do I put inspirational
31:29
Speaker 1: and motivational content online every day in a way where
31:32
Speaker 1: people would be interested in working with me? And I
31:35
Speaker 1: basically that's what I did. I coached my clients and
31:37
Speaker 1: I got good at internet marketing before I knew the
31:39
Speaker 1: word was internet marketing, you know. And then eventually I
31:42
Speaker 1: go like, Okay, I can only see so many clients
31:47
Speaker 1: in a week, and I'm only gonna be able to
31:48
Speaker 1: charge so much per like coaching package for life coaching
31:52
Speaker 1: these young girls, right, most of my clients were young girls,
31:55
Speaker 1: so what should I do? And then I had an idea, like,
31:57
Speaker 1: why don't you train other therapists on how to put
32:00
Speaker 1: come a coach? Create a course called become a Coach.
32:03
Speaker 1: So that's what I did. I created my first digital
32:05
Speaker 1: course and I enrolled fifteen people in it, many of
32:07
Speaker 1: them had a background on mental health counseling. And I
32:11
Speaker 1: sold out that course like I hit the number I
32:13
Speaker 1: wanted to hit, and I was like, oh my god,
32:15
Speaker 1: I can make a lot more money and help a
32:16
Speaker 1: lot more people at once. This was like the vibe.
32:19
Speaker 1: I was like, I think digital courses are going to
32:20
Speaker 1: be like my thing. And so then I just kept
32:22
Speaker 1: creating courses on whatever I was learning, you know, like
32:25
Speaker 1: here's how to sell online, here's how oh, here's how
32:28
Speaker 1: to create your own digital course. Like I was just
32:30
Speaker 1: creating courses, creating courses. They were doing well. I was
32:33
Speaker 1: developing a following of like repeat buyers. It was good.
32:36
Speaker 1: And I was noticing a theme that all my clients
32:39
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to me about money. All of my
32:42
Speaker 1: clients wanted to hear my thoughts on many because I
32:47
Speaker 1: had a way of noticing and pointing out people's patterns
32:50
Speaker 1: that I don't think was normal or common.
32:52
Speaker 2: Especially at the time night came with money for it.
32:55
Speaker 1: Let me be specific, Like a client tells me, Okay,
32:58
Speaker 1: I remember this one girl, like she's in my mind
33:00
Speaker 1: right now. She had a sales job and she was
33:02
Speaker 1: telling me that like she had never gotten a commission
33:05
Speaker 1: over this amount. She did not believe what was possible
33:08
Speaker 1: to commission over that amount. And I'm like, well, it
33:10
Speaker 1: is your commission capped and she's like no. I was like, well,
33:13
Speaker 1: let's play with it. What would it be like if
33:16
Speaker 1: your commission was this instead of this? Like could you
33:19
Speaker 1: believe it? Could you feel it? Could you imagine it? Right? So,
33:22
Speaker 1: like essentially like we're working on manifesting. But then another thing.
33:26
Speaker 1: The same client was telling me that she paid off
33:28
Speaker 1: all of her debt and the next month she had
33:30
Speaker 1: an expense that went right back up to the same
33:32
Speaker 1: amount of debt. And I'm like, okay, so you kind
33:34
Speaker 1: of have an expectation as set point around your available
33:38
Speaker 1: for this amount of debt. Can we imagine it being lower?
33:41
Speaker 1: Can we play with that? What would it mean about
33:44
Speaker 1: you if you had less debt? And when you do
33:46
Speaker 1: that with people, you kind of start getting into their
33:48
Speaker 1: unworthiness like they don't feel worthy of the things they
33:51
Speaker 1: spin on. They don't feel worthy of the school they
33:53
Speaker 1: went to that the use student loans for Like, there's
33:56
Speaker 1: a lot of like a lot of our insecurities will
33:59
Speaker 1: come up if you look at look at how you
34:01
Speaker 1: spend money, how you carry debt, what your income is.
34:04
Speaker 1: People cap themselves all day long. We have like these
34:07
Speaker 1: set points. Anyway. So I'm realizing that, and I'm working
34:10
Speaker 1: with people on that, and I'm like, I'm going to
34:12
Speaker 1: create a course on this. Let me create my first
34:14
Speaker 1: money mindset course, though I don't think that was really
34:18
Speaker 1: a thing, and so I called it Money Mentality Makeover
34:21
Speaker 1: and it was a three module course. I sold it
34:23
Speaker 1: for like one hundred bucks and people were like obsessed.
34:26
Speaker 1: They loved it. So basically that course I've added to
34:30
Speaker 1: every year for thirteen years. Those those three modules are
34:33
Speaker 1: still the first three modules, but now the course has like,
34:35
Speaker 1: I don't know, twenty six hours of content or something.
34:38
Speaker 2: What was your relationship with money when you created it? So, however,
34:42
Speaker 2: you wanted to be rich as fuck everything.
34:45
Speaker 1: I always thought I would make money, Okay, Yeah, Like
34:48
Speaker 1: when I took out my insane student loans to go
34:50
Speaker 1: to grad school and stuff. I really believed that I
34:52
Speaker 1: would pay them back. I really believed I would be okay.
34:55
Speaker 1: Like I remember driving around like my clunky, beat up
34:58
Speaker 1: car and having this like attitude of like, no, this
35:02
Speaker 1: is a good thing. It's a vibe for me to
35:04
Speaker 1: have a clunky, beat up car because this is my beginning, right, Like,
35:09
Speaker 1: it's only you can only like have a good time
35:11
Speaker 1: with your clunky car if you know it's not the
35:13
Speaker 1: end of your story. But I knew. I knew I
35:17
Speaker 1: would look back on that season of being a broke
35:18
Speaker 1: grad school student and it would just be my beginning.
35:21
Speaker 1: You know. I've always knew I would make money. I
35:23
Speaker 1: thought I would have a private practice in therapy, that
35:26
Speaker 1: I would write books, speak on stages, and be a professor.
35:29
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because I do all of that
35:31
Speaker 1: stuff now is just through like life coaching personal development world,
35:34
Speaker 1: not therapy world. But I do all the things I
35:36
Speaker 1: always thought I would do so again manifesting.
35:39
Speaker 2: But as far as money, everything I.
35:42
Speaker 1: Teach and money Men Teddy Makeover is all based on
35:44
Speaker 1: what worked for me and my clients. I had debt
35:46
Speaker 1: I couldn't pay down. I had that like, oh, wait,
35:50
Speaker 1: I can never make more than this no matter what
35:52
Speaker 1: I do. What is that about? Like all these like
35:54
Speaker 1: things that I described in my book and have taught
35:57
Speaker 1: and money men Teddy Makeover is all based on my
36:01
Speaker 1: experience around having a really clean, clear, healthy relationship with money.
36:08
Speaker 2: So then does that makes sense? It makes all the sense.
36:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
36:10
Speaker 2: And by the way, I have an interesting relationship with money.
36:17
Speaker 2: And here's why. I lived a very beautiful and privileged
36:22
Speaker 2: life as a child. And then two thousand and eight
36:26
Speaker 2: hits the recession, my dad basically lost everything. I had
36:31
Speaker 2: been modeling quote unquote in Salt Lake City, Utah. I'm
36:36
Speaker 2: stacking my pennies since the time I was like a
36:38
Speaker 2: young girl. My mom worked and was able to financially
36:42
Speaker 2: support the family through a really difficult time. I was
36:46
Speaker 2: able to contribute so now. And then I got with
36:51
Speaker 2: a guy who that's a nuanced situation. He had money.
36:56
Speaker 2: That's a quote unquote too. Where it comes from who
37:00
Speaker 2: it is, I don't know. I lived a beautiful life
37:02
Speaker 2: but continued to work while I was with this man
37:06
Speaker 2: because my mom had taught me you always have to
37:09
Speaker 2: be an independent person. Yeah, because there is going to
37:12
Speaker 2: be a day where a plan B needs to happen.
37:14
Speaker 2: And that doesn't necessarily mean that, like your rich guy
37:17
Speaker 2: is going to leave you, but maybe the guy hits
37:19
Speaker 2: on some hard times and you have to keep you
37:21
Speaker 2: a flash.
37:22
Speaker 1: She's saying, don't me dependent on a man? Told me
37:24
Speaker 1: a similar thing, yes, and I took it. My mom said,
37:27
Speaker 1: go to college, get a good job, make a lot
37:29
Speaker 1: of money, never depend on a man. And I took
37:32
Speaker 1: those words very seriously.
37:33
Speaker 2: You have to. Yeah, And when I talk to women
37:37
Speaker 2: who don't know what is going on with their finances.
37:40
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it makes me crazy. I was talking
37:42
Speaker 1: about it on Good Day LA this morning. I was like,
37:44
Speaker 1: there's no excuse anymore. There's no excuses. Twenty twenty six.
37:47
Speaker 1: Get the log into the account. Know how much is
37:50
Speaker 1: an investment in savings? Like what's the income? What's the output?
37:53
Speaker 1: Like how much does it cost for you to live
37:54
Speaker 1: and survive each month? There is no reason not to know.
37:57
Speaker 1: Even if you aren't the money maker, you have to know, yes,
38:01
Speaker 1: just because you're gonna look. Guess Also, women are fucking
38:03
Speaker 1: smarter than men. You're gonna look at how he's managing
38:06
Speaker 1: finances and go.
38:06
Speaker 2: Like, Babe, this doesn't make sense.
38:08
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be great if we contributed this this way? Like,
38:10
Speaker 1: if you educate yourself a little, you're probably gonna have
38:13
Speaker 1: a good fucking idea. Like women are smart and capable,
38:17
Speaker 1: and we got to empower ourselves around money, whether we
38:20
Speaker 1: make it or Like, I love being a money maker.
38:22
Speaker 1: Nothing is ever gonna change that. Yeah. But if Eddie
38:25
Speaker 1: like whatever, ends up making more money than me and
38:27
Speaker 1: we won the lottery, like I don't care what, I
38:29
Speaker 1: would never not know. I check all my accounts, like
38:33
Speaker 1: I'm so intentional, I don't know, it's just no excuses.
38:37
Speaker 2: Well that's my biggest thing, because I'm a mom of
38:38
Speaker 2: two little girls, and I need them to understand same
38:43
Speaker 2: that it is great. I hope you go fall in love,
38:46
Speaker 2: and I hope you have butterflies and rainbows. But shit
38:50
Speaker 2: gets real really fucking fast. Yeah, and you don't even
38:53
Speaker 2: have time to think. Yeah, and sometimes your bank account
38:57
Speaker 2: is the only thing standing between sex king and swimmy.
39:01
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well totally. Oh I just had something so good flat.
39:05
Speaker 2: In my head.
39:06
Speaker 1: Many women, little girls, Oh my god, right there? Oh
39:14
Speaker 1: how about this? Like I was a self made woman
39:20
Speaker 1: with the multiple seven figure yearly business when I met Eddie.
39:23
Speaker 1: That meant. I just remember being single, being ready to
39:27
Speaker 1: meet my person and knowing that like I didn't have
39:30
Speaker 1: to base it on money, like I want it right,
39:33
Speaker 1: like I wanted the I was clear though, I wanted
39:35
Speaker 1: my person to like do something they love, have meaning
39:38
Speaker 1: and purpose in their day, in their life, be very
39:41
Speaker 1: much a contributing member of the family like Eddie would
39:44
Speaker 1: never moosh on me. Eddie would never like he would
39:47
Speaker 1: never let me pay for everything. Like if we go
39:49
Speaker 1: on a date, he pays, you know what I mean.
39:51
Speaker 1: Like we're going on a camping trip this weekend. He
39:53
Speaker 1: planned it, He's paying for it. Like I don't know.
39:56
Speaker 1: It's that's kind of like our thing. If I plan it,
39:58
Speaker 1: I pay for it. If he plans it, he like
40:00
Speaker 1: I don't. He just is a contributing member of the family,
40:03
Speaker 1: Like he buys groceries, He's paid some of the bills,
40:05
Speaker 1: like it doesn't like, yes, I'll pay the mortgage, I'll
40:08
Speaker 1: make more money. I don't care. But if you were
40:09
Speaker 1: like a mooch, I wouldn't think you were hot, you
40:12
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
40:12
Speaker 2: Yes, the dynamic is working. You found your person and
40:15
Speaker 2: what he contributes and you contribute is a great life.
40:19
Speaker 1: I don't need him to contribute. I've said before, do
40:22
Speaker 1: you want to be a stay at home dad? Because
40:23
Speaker 1: it's on the table. But he would never you know,
40:26
Speaker 1: he's a man who goes off there and a.
40:27
Speaker 2: Lot of work. A stay at home anything, I know.
40:29
Speaker 1: But he's a man that goes out there, right, yes,
40:34
Speaker 1: but he goes over there and he does his work
40:35
Speaker 1: every day. And that mattered to me.
40:37
Speaker 2: Very hot too, He's so hot and all is that man?
40:40
Speaker 1: Six five?
40:41
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about this. I really like the direction
40:44
Speaker 2: of this. How do I manifest a six to my
40:47
Speaker 2: mad man? Oh my god?
40:48
Speaker 1: I can talk about this all day. Okay, we need
40:50
Speaker 1: a new position. I'm trying not to.
40:51
Speaker 2: Get that a new position because this is how we're
40:53
Speaker 2: going to wrap the podcast is finding me a six
40:56
Speaker 2: foot tall, dark and handsome oh like a fucking horse,
41:00
Speaker 2: huge pan.
41:01
Speaker 1: Good for you, heyse, God, pise God, Thanks God. Okay, So, okay,
41:08
Speaker 1: there's so much here to manifesting a man. It's like,
41:11
Speaker 1: honestly a little bit more nuanced than manifesting money because
41:13
Speaker 1: we're not just talking about money, which is an nanimate
41:17
Speaker 1: object that is like a ref like money is available
41:20
Speaker 1: in droves Like many is out there. We're talking about
41:22
Speaker 1: like a human being who has free will, So it's
41:25
Speaker 1: a little bit more of like a nuanced manifestation. So
41:28
Speaker 1: there's many, many things. But here's what I did. So
41:30
Speaker 1: I would say number one, when you get really clear
41:33
Speaker 1: on like the characteristics, like the like what you desire, Like,
41:37
Speaker 1: I would make these lists and I said to God
41:41
Speaker 1: and to my journal and to everyone, that's six' three
41:43
Speaker 1: was my? Minimum minimum? Minimum? Yeah MIGHT i remember right
41:48
Speaker 1: AFTER i Met, EDDIE i had a date planned With
41:50
Speaker 1: eddie AND i had a date planned with someone else
41:52
Speaker 1: the same. Weekend And eddie was six y five and
41:54
Speaker 1: the other guy was six. Four And i'm telling my dad.
41:56
Speaker 1: This My dad's, Like, amanda And i'm like six freeze the, Minimum,
42:01
Speaker 1: Dad and he's, like but you want to like have
42:03
Speaker 1: kids and settle. Down i'm, like six threes is. Minimum,
42:06
Speaker 1: Like so What i'm saying is be clear on your, standards, Right,
42:09
Speaker 1: Okay you got to know your standards from the physical
42:12
Speaker 1: things the emotional, things like think about all like the
42:15
Speaker 1: things you really, want like how do you want to travel?
42:18
Speaker 1: Together what do you want your home life to?
42:20
Speaker 3: Be?
42:20
Speaker 1: Like how do you want to feel at the end
42:21
Speaker 1: of the day when you're in bed with. Them, like
42:23
Speaker 1: the most potent manifestation isn't just the mental. STUFF i
42:28
Speaker 1: love the mental stuff because it helps you get, clear
42:30
Speaker 1: but it's how you feel when you think about the, thing, right,
42:33
Speaker 1: Yeah so think about that feeling of how you're going
42:36
Speaker 1: to feel in bed with them at the end of the,
42:37
Speaker 1: night or having dinner with, them or co parenting with
42:41
Speaker 1: them or. Whatever LIKE i.
42:43
Speaker 2: Want to feel.
42:44
Speaker 3: Feminine that's why it's like a gun, energy have big
42:48
Speaker 3: dick energy all day long. Time when you get, HOME
42:52
Speaker 3: i want to melt and just be a little, baby right, yeah.
42:57
Speaker 3: Perfect so the manifestation home and of that would be
43:00
Speaker 3: feeling that, now envisioning that, now holding that energy, now
43:04
Speaker 3: but like as a, practice okay you, know, yeah believing
43:08
Speaker 3: that you can have, it knowing that it's yours would
43:10
Speaker 3: be the energy of like the manifestation for.
43:12
Speaker 1: That and then then this was a big one for.
43:16
Speaker 1: Me you might not have. THIS i had to look
43:18
Speaker 1: at before Like eddie could come into my, life and
43:21
Speaker 1: like the relationship, STICK i had to look at HOW
43:24
Speaker 1: i was kind of fucked up with, relationships very fucked.
43:28
Speaker 1: Up it was really annoying to look at so that
43:31
Speaker 1: these were the things THAT i had to work on
43:32
Speaker 1: in it It i'm so THANKFUL i did HOW i
43:35
Speaker 1: expected men to like validate. Me, now of course your
43:39
Speaker 1: man should compliment and praise and think you're the best
43:42
Speaker 1: thing on, Earth but it was LIKE i was. TRYING
43:44
Speaker 1: i was like it was a needy, energy LIKE i
43:46
Speaker 1: need you to validate, me like it's your.
43:48
Speaker 2: Job.
43:49
Speaker 1: Okay WHEN i identified that and, MYSELF i was, like,
43:52
Speaker 1: WAIT i expect a man to do that for. Me
43:54
Speaker 1: shouldn't that be like SOMETHING i do for. Myself shouldn't
43:57
Speaker 1: that be between me And? God and just like my
43:59
Speaker 1: like confidence and like WHO i? Am so that was
44:02
Speaker 1: like kind of a toxic. BEHAVIOR i to look at. That,
44:05
Speaker 1: OH i had abandonment issues that was really run. Deep
44:10
Speaker 1: that was fucking me. Up SO i was noticing like on,
44:12
Speaker 1: dates even IF i didn't like the, GUY i would
44:15
Speaker 1: be worried that they didn't like. Me i'd be worried
44:18
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't call me. BACK i felt like every
44:21
Speaker 1: guy went out with needed to be chasing me, down
44:24
Speaker 1: knocking down the, door trying to marry, me or it
44:27
Speaker 1: was like it was, affecting like my senses is self
44:30
Speaker 1: worth on my. Date SO i was LIKE i had
44:32
Speaker 1: to look at. That so if this applies to anyone,
44:35
Speaker 1: listening like the WAY i really like healed that WAS
44:40
Speaker 1: I it was like a really beautiful. Season, HONESTLY i
44:43
Speaker 1: got a lot better at taking care of me and
44:46
Speaker 1: loving on me and being really close and connected to
44:50
Speaker 1: myself and like holding myself energetically and, emotionally if that makes.
44:55
Speaker 1: Sense like you, know like you'll go through something and you're,
44:57
Speaker 1: crying and like you want to go to a like
44:59
Speaker 1: you want to go to a man and have them
45:01
Speaker 1: cuddle you and tell. EVERYTHING i would like go to.
45:03
Speaker 1: MYSELF i have like memories of like hugging myself and
45:06
Speaker 1: being Like, Amanda i've got. You so there was like
45:10
Speaker 1: some hilling inside of. Me, okay that made it to
45:12
Speaker 1: where When eddie AND i so we we. Met we
45:15
Speaker 1: dated for a few. Months he was newly. SEPARATED i
45:19
Speaker 1: had abandonment issues all over the, Place like it did
45:21
Speaker 1: not go, well so we broke. Up when we came back,
45:23
Speaker 1: TOGETHER i had done a lot of healing work on,
45:26
Speaker 1: myself particularly around that abandonment, thing and it's like it
45:29
Speaker 1: came back together so seamlessly BECAUSE i wasn't afraid he
45:33
Speaker 1: was gonna, leave, right and if he did, LEAVE i
45:35
Speaker 1: Knew i'd be. Okay and SO i was so like
45:38
Speaker 1: whole and complete and HOW i was experiencing. Him and
45:42
Speaker 1: then he loves to be a, man so he's showing
45:44
Speaker 1: up super. Masculine i'm showing up super, feminine and Like
45:47
Speaker 1: i'm also not needing to control him LIKE i had
45:50
Speaker 1: been controlling in, relationships not meaning to be BECAUSE i
45:53
Speaker 1: was scared they were going to leave, me. Right but
45:56
Speaker 1: Now i'm like leaned. Back i'm like in the. Feminine
45:58
Speaker 1: i'm like, Chilling i'm, Trusting i'm, receiving like him trying
46:02
Speaker 1: to take care of, me, right because even with the money,
46:05
Speaker 1: thing like he takes care of me in a million
46:07
Speaker 1: ways all day. Long he brought me up my vitamins
46:09
Speaker 1: before a bed last night and filled up my water
46:11
Speaker 1: bottle and like you know he Does, god he does
46:13
Speaker 1: this shit every.
46:14
Speaker 2: Night i'm up in there fucking get my own, water
46:16
Speaker 2: flipping my own, mattress no taking out the fucking. Trash
46:20
Speaker 2: do you know what any? Think it's, well the cars
46:21
Speaker 2: of a gas, no none of.
46:23
Speaker 1: That you're doing none of. That you're doing none of that.
46:25
Speaker 2: Between anymore the manifested my six five.
46:28
Speaker 1: Man, yeah between a good man and an. Assistant you
46:29
Speaker 1: should be doing any of that. Shit it might take
46:32
Speaker 1: more than just a. Man and when you live a big, life.
46:34
Speaker 2: You, Know CAN i tell you WHAT i do with
46:47
Speaker 2: the abandonment? Issues? YEAH i am so terrified That i'm
46:54
Speaker 2: going to get hurt THAT i push them away SO
46:57
Speaker 2: i can hurt them. First OH i had. Yes so
46:59
Speaker 2: mine was he do you like?
47:00
Speaker 1: Me do you like?
47:00
Speaker 2: Me do you like?
47:01
Speaker 1: Me or let me reject IF i If i'm sure
47:03
Speaker 1: you like, me let me reject you so you can
47:05
Speaker 1: come chase. Me, yeah LIKE i gotta get it was
47:07
Speaker 1: shitty yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah Oh, jesus nobody you've
47:11
Speaker 1: given me. That AND i would, say but if you
47:14
Speaker 1: can work on that and observe that in? You so,
47:16
Speaker 1: okay what would be the? Fear there would be the wound,
47:17
Speaker 1: There i'm going to get, hurt SO i have to
47:19
Speaker 1: hurt you. First what if it's more LIKE i don't
47:23
Speaker 1: have to get hurt in every? Relationship and WHEN i,
47:26
Speaker 1: DO i am. Okay like IF i, DO i am. Okay,
47:31
Speaker 1: yeah play with.
47:31
Speaker 2: That why when you say, that let's play with that,
47:34
Speaker 2: well because.
47:35
Speaker 1: We're just trying on. Image we're just trying on belief
47:37
Speaker 1: systems are trying on thoughts like you, know, yeah because
47:39
Speaker 1: the belief is just a thought we kept, thinking so,
47:41
Speaker 1: like think about, that play with, that see how that.
47:43
Speaker 2: Lands you, KNOW i really dig.
47:45
Speaker 1: You thank? You if people can you can you imagine
47:50
Speaker 1: IF i could have just talked with the women like they.
47:52
Speaker 1: Didn't i'm and this is MAYBE i live a weird.
47:55
Speaker 1: Life i'm used to everyone in my, world from friends
47:57
Speaker 1: to clients to family being available for. This people know
48:01
Speaker 1: WHAT i, do so they want my thoughts on, it
48:04
Speaker 1: like a friend asking me about an abandonment thing like or. Whatever.
48:07
Speaker 1: Whatever it, is a money, thing a business, thing a relationship.
48:09
Speaker 1: Thing people come to. Me So i'm sitting in this
48:13
Speaker 1: room of housewives and no one's common to me for
48:15
Speaker 1: a life quack, Right And i'm, like, okay so you
48:18
Speaker 1: don't want to learn from me and receive from? Me
48:21
Speaker 1: AND i just want to be helpful and useful to.
48:23
Speaker 1: Everyone so what DO.
48:24
Speaker 2: I think to?
48:25
Speaker 1: Do hire was?
48:25
Speaker 2: OFF i think the timing was. OFF i think there
48:28
Speaker 2: were a lot of women who were going into new
48:30
Speaker 2: seasons of their lives and just not receptive to what
48:34
Speaker 2: you were bringing to the. Table that is not a forever.
48:37
Speaker 2: THING i think if the offer not if when the offer,
48:42
Speaker 2: comes you Take rihanna's. Advice oh cool is that to,
48:45
Speaker 2: say you thank's.
48:49
Speaker 1: Advice i'm going TO dm her back you. ENTER i
48:53
Speaker 1: THINK i can do it very differently a second. TIME
48:55
Speaker 1: i just think it will be a different experience for you. Know,
48:59
Speaker 1: yeah like but like what we just, Did, YEAH i love,
49:03
Speaker 1: that AND i think that's normal and friendships AND i
49:06
Speaker 1: would want to do that ON, tv and it just
49:08
Speaker 1: didn't seem like there was room for, it you.
49:11
Speaker 2: Know yet yet just wasn't the. TIME i.
49:14
Speaker 1: Know, well, Also i'm like ten plus years. Younger, YEAH i,
49:19
Speaker 1: mean you got to be a really, secure confident person
49:21
Speaker 1: to know that you can receive from someone at any,
49:23
Speaker 1: age you know WHAT i.
49:24
Speaker 2: Mean, Oh i'm looking for whoever wants to give me,
49:26
Speaker 2: advice same LIKE i seek advice for my five year.
49:28
Speaker 2: Old like, today you very you seem like you've been
49:31
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