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#2519 - Scott Eastwood · The Joe Rogan Experience

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  Speaker 1: Jo podcast. Check it out The Joe Regan Experience shrain
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  Speaker 1: My Day, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Rogan podcast, by night, all day. You gonna see it, brother,
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  Speaker 2: what's happening?
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  Speaker 1: You know? Back in the seat, back in the hot seat.
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  Speaker 2: You looking good, dude, Look at you, you handsome bastard.
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  Speaker 1: What's this box? This is uh the best supplements on
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  Speaker 1: the planet, sourced from Japan, America and Switzerland North Performance
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  Speaker 1: doctor Massey Do you know him as a Stanford doc?
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  Speaker 1: He started the company. I'm involved, I'm I'm getting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: heavily involved in the ownership of it, and uh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited about it. It's a one you take it a day,
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  Speaker 1: like one satchel. It's got all the all the ship,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So it's like a pre pack.
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  Speaker 2: It's a pre pack. Oh, I like pre packs. You
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  Speaker 2: got one, and I don't like to think exactly give
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  Speaker 2: me pre pack. Yeah, yeah, I like the I take
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  Speaker 2: pures now, I take uh pure encapsulation. They have those
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  Speaker 2: little men's ultra packs or whatever it's called. Yep, I
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  Speaker 2: take those every day. What a bunch of other ship.
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  Speaker 2: I'll try your stuff though, Okay, check it out.
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  Speaker 1: So what's so special about these vitamins? You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just uh, it's more for the person who's like wants
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  Speaker 1: to excel in training. So it's got all the amino acids,
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  Speaker 1: your creatines one supplement. It's big, you'll see.
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  Speaker 2: That's by the way, this is not an AD. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I guess it is for Scott, but it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you're involved in your agent. I know, but I just
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  Speaker 2: want people to know that, like I talk about cool ship,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of whether or not it's an AD. And if
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  Speaker 2: something is going to be an AD, I have to
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  Speaker 2: approve it.
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  Speaker 1: Look at your knife. Yeah, let's bust it out.
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  Speaker 2: Montana knife company, son.
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  Speaker 1: Good for cutting elk.
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  Speaker 2: That's a skinner.
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  Speaker 3: Shave.
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  Speaker 1: That dog.
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  Speaker 2: Teach it to hunt the best knives. Okay, all right, supplements,
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  Speaker 2: so how long have you been involved in the whole
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  Speaker 2: supplement thing, Like now, you've always taken them. Oh it's
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  Speaker 2: all in powder. Yep, whoa try dry scooping that you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna choke to death. That's a lot of powder, I believe. Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 2: at least I'm more convinced because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: volume here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeap.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously there's a lot of stuff. Like if you took
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  Speaker 2: every vitamin that I take every day, and you busted
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  Speaker 2: them up and put him into a powder for him,
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  Speaker 2: it would be like this exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So it's seventy plus vitamins in there. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: biggest thing, right, like efficacy and quantity. You need the
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  Speaker 1: right amount.
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  Speaker 2: Do you just mix this with waters? And how you
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  Speaker 2: do it?
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  Speaker 1: Yep, mix it with a big water and then you
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  Speaker 1: just don't have to think about it because I was
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  Speaker 1: doing so many a day right as you probably are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like oh dud, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Ran out of that one. Oh I got to wear that.
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  Speaker 2: So you're involved in this company, did you guys ever
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  Speaker 2: send the stuff out for third party testing? Do you
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  Speaker 2: ever do that?
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  Speaker 1: It's totally third party tested. So my very wealthy buddy
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  Speaker 1: started it. He did it essentially for himself. He was like,
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  Speaker 1: I want the best of the best. He's like fifty five,
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  Speaker 1: but he's an adventure athlete and he's like, I want
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  Speaker 1: the best of the best. I don't care what it costs.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like yeah, he's like, I think I can
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  Speaker 1: make a business out of this. So that's for you, dude. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So for people at home. What's the name of the
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  Speaker 1: company again?
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  Speaker 2: North Performance North Performance, and there's our website they can
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  Speaker 2: go to.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, it's we're just launching it. It's going to be
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  Speaker 1: on subscription based, come to your house every month. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: don't just think about it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh like not thinking. Yep, you got me, got me
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  Speaker 2: hooked already, sign all the things volume. So I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: believing in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Uh, when I know if you're you're a
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  Speaker 2: very reputable and ethical guy. You know, if you're involved
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  Speaker 2: in something, it's going to be legit anyway. So that's
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  Speaker 2: cool to know. How long have you been taking supplements?
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  Speaker 2: So you've been a vitamin guy forever?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I cycle in and out like anything,
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  Speaker 1: do you I I my my non negotiables typically are
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  Speaker 1: fish oil, vitamin D I take, you know, MNN or
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  Speaker 1: nad uh, and then glue thion. My dad was always
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  Speaker 1: a massive glutethion guy.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of real health benefits to glutathion. I think,
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  Speaker 2: especially leposomal glue to thion, which I think more bioabsorbable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's awesome, dude, good for you. I think every
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  Speaker 2: and don't listen to your doctor if you have a
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  Speaker 2: doctor like I had my doctor said, oh, you need
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  Speaker 2: is a balanced diet. Most of those vitamins are just
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  Speaker 2: gonna pee out. And I looked at him like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: you look like shit. I didn't say it, but trying
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  Speaker 2: to be nice. He was at a potbelly, like this
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  Speaker 2: is crazy. You have zero muscle and you're telling me
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  Speaker 2: about balanced diet. It's like, this is bananas, dude. And
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  Speaker 2: now that I've looked back on it, he was probably
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  Speaker 2: how old I am now, you know? And he looked
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  Speaker 2: like shit. There's a lot of doctors that don't understand
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  Speaker 2: that if you want to optimize your health, it's not
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  Speaker 2: about what the one hundred percent of the you know,
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  Speaker 2: f USDA or whatever, it is the requirements, Like there's
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  Speaker 2: real science on what the right doses are and you
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  Speaker 2: can find it. It's just complicated. You got to go
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  Speaker 2: online and you got to go what's the optimum dose
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  Speaker 2: of vitamin D? Are there dangers of going above vitamin D?
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  Speaker 2: Are there benefits of having a high level of vitamin D? Sure? Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you really want to do it right, you should
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  Speaker 2: work with a wellness clinic and have someone go over
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  Speaker 2: your blood work. Unfortunately, we have waste to well in town,
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  Speaker 2: so I do it with them. Yep, they go over
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  Speaker 2: your blood work. They'll actually make you a vitamin that's
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  Speaker 2: designed specifically for what your body needs. They'll encapsulate it
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  Speaker 2: all on pill form, tell you how many to take
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  Speaker 2: a day, and they'll send you like a bag of vitamins.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've actually I've been actually thinking about doing that
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  Speaker 1: test because there are certain doctors that will tell you your
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  Speaker 1: sort of your blood type will dictate what you should
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  Speaker 1: be eating. And I've never really got that done or no,
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  Speaker 1: And I know certain people just are like, this is
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  Speaker 1: a game changer.
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  Speaker 2: Wonder how much of that is voodoo?
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  Speaker 1: It might be.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it kind of makes sense though, if your
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  Speaker 2: ancestors came from specific part of the world, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. Yeah, Like, we know that's the case
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  Speaker 2: with alcohol, Like people whose ancestors came from a society. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: societies that didn't normally drink alcoholic, particularly Native Americans, had
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  Speaker 2: a really hard time with it because they just weren't
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  Speaker 2: built to metabolize alcohol. They didn't have it as a
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  Speaker 2: part of their world. And I guess if you're in
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  Speaker 2: a part of the world where your ancestors ate mostly meat,
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  Speaker 2: I bet your diet should probably be mostly meat. I
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  Speaker 2: bet it fits right in there, and it should come
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  Speaker 2: from a place where they ate a lot of specific
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  Speaker 2: kinds of grains. Like I would wonder like how much
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  Speaker 2: of that stuff is real, like blood type versus what
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  Speaker 2: food you should eat, because everybody should what everybody eats, proteins,
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  Speaker 2: amino acids, vitamins, you know, and all that stuff you
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  Speaker 2: get from fruits and vegetables and meat and food and
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  Speaker 2: fish and eggs.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking at the blue zone, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they essentially have a variety of a Mediterranean diet, and
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of a variety, aary thing. They don't just
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  Speaker 1: eat red meat, but they eat a lot of fish,
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  Speaker 1: but they do eat red meat, and they do drink wine,
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  Speaker 1: and they sort of have this diet that is kind
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  Speaker 1: of a bunch of everything. And you know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of other factors as well, you know, purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Physical activity, physical activity, community. I think a big one
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  Speaker 2: with all these blue zoned people is they're just eating
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  Speaker 2: real food. That's the real problem. What people need to
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  Speaker 2: truly get into their head is the majority of the
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  Speaker 2: American diet, as delicious as it tastes is like garbage.
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  Speaker 2: It's bad for you. It's actually bad for you. It's
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  Speaker 2: not good for you. Real food is good for you.
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  Speaker 2: If you go and you have a grilled chicken and
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  Speaker 2: some avocado and a nice salad and the glass of
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  Speaker 2: sparkling water, that's actually really good for you. Versus if
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  Speaker 2: you go and have a fucking Jack in the box
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  Speaker 2: double cheeseburger with bacon and whatever sauce and eat the
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  Speaker 2: fries like that's it's delicious poison.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I will say, I just got back from Europe.
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  Speaker 1: My body there feels so much better. And I eat
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  Speaker 1: pretty healthy. Okay, I eat healthy here and I eat
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  Speaker 1: pretty healthy there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody has the same story.
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  Speaker 1: So what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: It's our food. Our food's bad. It's there's a guy
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  Speaker 2: who broke it down. Remember that dude with the cowboy hat, Jamie.
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  Speaker 2: Remember that cat who's really good at breaking down nutrition facts.
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  Speaker 2: He broke down what.
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  Speaker 1: The gluten is, what life is? Say right, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, there's a bunch of the compounds, there's a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of preservatives. All that stuff is again bad for you.
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  Speaker 2: And all these people that live in like Italy and
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  Speaker 2: live in these Mediterranean diet places. What are they eating.
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  Speaker 1: They're eating food, actual food, real food. But it's not
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  Speaker 1: just it's not just that, it's like the way the
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  Speaker 1: dairies process, right, so you know. And I actually went
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  Speaker 1: to a cheese factory in Italy a couple times ago
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  Speaker 1: in Europe, and I asked, I, so, why can my
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  Speaker 1: stomach tolerate this and not in America And they're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: first off, we the process of making this cheese is
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  Speaker 1: like fourth to six hours in the morning every day,
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  Speaker 1: and it gets the lactose out, whereas we just slap
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  Speaker 1: it in and send it out, you know, And it's like,
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  Speaker 1: that's not it's also raw cheese. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I had this. I bought a house from this guy
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  Speaker 2: was from France. Really cool guy. He was a doctor,
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  Speaker 2: very interesting dude. I got to know. I'm become friends
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  Speaker 2: with him, and he's he would smuggle cheese back from
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  Speaker 2: France because it was literally illegal to have that cheese.
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  Speaker 2: This is California, two thousand and three. Oh, really illegal
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  Speaker 2: to bring that cheese into America because it was raw,
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  Speaker 2: it hadn't been all the biology in, it hadn't been killed.
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  Speaker 2: So like when we're drinking raw milk, what you're getting
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  Speaker 2: is all the enzymes you're getting it, and people could say,
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  Speaker 2: oh you are you a baby cow? You should be like,
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  Speaker 2: it's really good nutrition. Raw milk is good nutrition. There's
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  Speaker 2: calcium and protein and fats.
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  Speaker 1: Milk. It's good for you. It tastes good when you drink.
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  Speaker 2: If you're drinking a glass of homogenized, pasteurized milk, your
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  Speaker 2: body's like, what is this? Like this is milk that
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  Speaker 2: can just sit on the shelf for months. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: If you get raw milk, I get it on a Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: by Wednesday or Thursday, gets a little sketch. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: starts stinking. That's the cat. So this dude, listen to
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  Speaker 2: this wizard. The guy says, So he's talking to this guy.
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  Speaker 2: This guy's talking about how he's eating bread over in
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  Speaker 2: Urina America.
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  Speaker 3: I need it.
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  Speaker 4: That's because in America what we call bread can't even
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  Speaker 4: be considered food in parts of Europe. See here in America.
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  Speaker 4: It's not so much the gluten as what we've done
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  Speaker 4: to the grain. About two hundred years ago, we started
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  Speaker 4: stripping the brain and germ, or the fiber and nutrients
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  Speaker 4: to make flour shelf stable, also nutritionally dead because the
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  Speaker 4: nutrients were gone, we enriched it with fullic acid, which
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  Speaker 4: a large majority of the population can't even metabolize. Therefore
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  Speaker 4: many people experience fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity, and inflammation. But then
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  Speaker 4: the bread wasn't white enough, so they bleached it with
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  Speaker 4: chlorine gas but didn't rise enough, so they added a
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  Speaker 4: carcinogen called potassium bromate, which has been in several countries
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  Speaker 4: like Europe, the UK, and even China. Then we wanted
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  Speaker 4: to ramp up production, so we started using glyphessate to
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  Speaker 4: dry out the wheat before harvest, causing anocrine disruption and
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  Speaker 4: damaging your gut. So now you're bloated, brain fog, tired,
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  Speaker 4: and blamed gluten. But gluten is just the scapegoat. The
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  Speaker 4: real issue is ultra processed, chemically altered bleach bromated, fake
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  Speaker 4: vitamin filled wheed soaking glyphissate. This isn't bread, this is.
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  Speaker 2: I shout out to. This guy's name is Denny Door,
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  Speaker 2: Danny d E and y underscore d U r E
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram.
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  Speaker 5: I just gotta fuck with the audio there because that
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  Speaker 5: song will oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah the fu yeah, So what I get for that?
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  Speaker 1: And I have seen this actually damn it. It's just
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  Speaker 1: essentially pure greed to keep bread shelf stable for longer.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's their business model, right, So their business is
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  Speaker 2: set up on shelf stable stuff that and the problem
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  Speaker 2: is it was it was greenlit, right. So the problem
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  Speaker 2: is whatever year they started doing that, they built their
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  Speaker 2: entire business on doing it that way. So this was
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  Speaker 2: the argument when RFK Junior came in and said, you
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  Speaker 2: have to stop using these dyes for children's cereals, and
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  Speaker 2: they were saying, they were saying, this is going to
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  Speaker 2: ruin our business, and he was like, you already make
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  Speaker 2: the same kind that we're asking to make for Canada,
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  Speaker 2: because Canada doesn't allow them to use the dyes the
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  Speaker 2: same cereal they make in the United States, and it
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  Speaker 2: looks not as good because it doesn't have the juicy, delicious, bright,
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  Speaker 2: vibrant dye give you fucking cancer. But the reality is
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  Speaker 2: it's just their business model. They're set up to do
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  Speaker 2: it a certain way and to change would be very expensive.
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  Speaker 1: So what do they do.
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  Speaker 2: They fucking hire lobbyists. They hire lobbyists. They get their
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  Speaker 2: guys into the FDA, they get their guys into this organization,
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  Speaker 2: that organization, and they make sure that they're protected. And
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  Speaker 2: then we keep eating dog shit and we keep getting poisoned.
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  Speaker 2: And you go to Italy and you have a spaghetti
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  Speaker 2: and you feel great. You don't feel like you get
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  Speaker 2: shot with a tranquilizer dart. You know, it's kind of amazing,
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  Speaker 2: And there's dart in your neck. We've talked about it
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  Speaker 2: many times. You go over there, and you know, why
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  Speaker 2: am I living the way I live? These people are
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  Speaker 2: just hanging out, having a good time, having a cigarette, laughing.
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  Speaker 1: That shouldn't even be a thing we're arguing about. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even understand. It's just like that gets lumped into that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's for the betterment of society, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what like why is that a thing? We live in
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  Speaker 1: a weird world, man, a world that doesn't completely make sense.
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  Speaker 1: And then on top of it, it gets connected to
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  Speaker 1: political ideologies.
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  Speaker 2: So it used to be that the people on the
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  Speaker 2: left were really concerned about healthy food. Like when I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid, we used to go to the health
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  Speaker 2: food store. My parents were hippies and they would buy
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  Speaker 2: like whole wheat bread, and you know, like they would
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  Speaker 2: try to buy like organic food, like the that was
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  Speaker 2: the thing on the left, avoid chemicals, avoid processed foods.
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  Speaker 2: And because this, it's all these movements are connected with
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  Speaker 2: Trump and RFK Junior. There's so many people that are
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  Speaker 2: rejecting something that's beneficial to everybody because somehow or another
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  Speaker 2: they have this connected to some right wing anti science position,
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  Speaker 2: like god, you guys are getting brainwashed. We should all
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  Speaker 2: be eating organic food. That should be the only food.
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  Speaker 2: We were not doing that, okay, and it's one of
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  Speaker 2: the reasons why we're some of the sickest, fattest fucking
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  Speaker 2: people on earth while also being the most wealthy country.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Group think is like a crazy thing. It's a uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's kind of it's really sad because people
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  Speaker 1: aren't really actually thinking critically about each subject. They're just
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  Speaker 1: jumping on to something there they've been told or is
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  Speaker 1: in their echo chamber or whatever, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I like to think no matter what issued it is,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, well let's evaluate that. Let's kind of
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  Speaker 1: look at both sides. Maybe there's like and maybe there's
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  Speaker 1: some in between that's both things can.
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  Speaker 2: Be true, yes, for sure, And that's a problem if
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  Speaker 2: you if there's something that's accurate that the other side
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  Speaker 2: is saying, and you're rejecting that because it doesn't align
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  Speaker 2: with your political ideology. That's bad for everybody. Like, I
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  Speaker 2: think the group think that we have to all really
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  Speaker 2: align with is the group think of being open minded,
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  Speaker 2: being like true, actually open minded and willing to accept
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  Speaker 2: different ideas and also recognize that you are not your ideas.
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  Speaker 2: Your ideas are just thoughts. Do not connect yourself with them. No,
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  Speaker 2: you are you, And if you really want to have
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  Speaker 2: a stable you, you want to be proud of what
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  Speaker 2: you are. You should be completely detached to ideas. You
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  Speaker 2: should know which ones are accurate and which ones aren't,
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  Speaker 2: based on information, based on the reality of whatever whatever
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about, whatever subject matter is. But the reality
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  Speaker 2: is like, you can't be married to your ideas because
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  Speaker 2: they'll fuck you. They'll fuck you over every time. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's not going to work. You have to be flexible
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  Speaker 2: and you have to be willing to say, even though
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  Speaker 2: I hate this guy, he's right about that.
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  Speaker 1: It's very important. It's okay to be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, even though I can piece of said he lies
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  Speaker 2: about a lot of things, but that thing that he's
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: saying is actually true.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Well, here's an even to go even a little more.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe an unpopular or something people don't talk about is
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: they divide, in my opinion, to control. If you don't
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: have division, that's when the pitchforks come out. If you
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: don't have the illusion of choice and a team, that's
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: when you're like, well, fuck that. They're taking your money.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: They we're paying all these taxes or doing these things,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and we actually don't have a choice. Maybe that's the reason.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: It's you know, there's these teams red and blue, and
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: it's actually just one higher group that are actually making
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: decisions the big money.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, for sure, they benefit from people being at
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: each other's throats. They benefit from culture war stuff. They
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: benefit from people arguing over whatever it is Pride Month
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: or whatever it is, Black Lives Matter.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Ryle, and then people are thinking about this and this
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: instead of hey, like this is actually going on, yeah
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: talking about that.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean look every time there's i mean when
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Clinton got caught with Monica Lewinsky, they started bombing like
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: right afterwards.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: That's the real power.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: That's what they do.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good move.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: It's a good move to destop yeah, because otherwise that
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: that shit's going to stay in the new cycle until
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: something big happens. So you've got to make something big happen. Yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: it's a we're involved in a game, and we don't
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: think it's a game. We think that what we're doing
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: is trying to make the world a better place and
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: vote for people that have similar values. That's not the
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: game they're playing. The game they're playing is let's pretend
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: that we care. Let's pretend that we want to fix
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: the homeless problem. Let's pretend we want you to have
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: health care. Let's pretend. But meanwhile, they're a good percentage
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: of them are demons. They're they're just sociopaths, completely devoid
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: of any feelings of what the consequences of their action
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: are going to have on people's livelihoods, losing their homes,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: losing their businesses. They don't give a fuck. They care
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: about their own career and they want to keep on
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: truck until they become the king of the country. And
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: that's what they're trying to do. And that's a giant
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: pile of these fucking demons. There's a lot of them
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  Speaker 1: No, we were actually talking about it. My buddy gave
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: me a lift here today on his plane and he's
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: a very wealthy, successful guy, but he was getting riled
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: up about some trans thing and an issue, and I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: was like, why do you think you get riled up
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: about it? I was like, do you think that maybe
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that's just a cause for division? And what? You know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: if you get upset about a sound out of someone's mouth,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: when you think about it, it's kind of like from
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: a thirty thousand foot level, it's like you're getting riled
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: up about an idea about a sound that's coming out
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: of someone's mouth, right, Like you're letting that affect you.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Right, And it's not affecting your real life, but you're
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: choosing to focus on that, and it is an issue.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: But is it an issue that's of paramount importance in
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: your life when you're on your own private jet flying somewhere.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: No, I was I couldn't thinking about like I was
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: thinking about it. I was like, you're this especial billionaire
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and you're upset about that, and I go, you're wasting
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: your time thinking about that instead of a millionaire things
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: we could talk about or think about. Yeah, it was interesting.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Well, it's I mean, it's always been a tool, as
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: much as we like to say, No, these are real
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: issues that we face, and we really have a real
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: cultural issue that we have to I get it, that's true.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: But However, you have to recognize that that tool has
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: always been used by dictators by.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Art of war, right, I mean it's the from the beginning.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's important and it's one of the beautiful
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: things about our country is that we have two parties.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: So it's so easy to do because it's just good
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: guys and bad guys. There's no good guys bad guys
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: between pretty reasonable guys that are pragmatic, we know how
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to kill folks. I like them, like, let's go to
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the guy, let's go to the discipline side. But no,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: it's like you can only be on the right or
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: on the left, and if you're on the right, you
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: get lumped into these crazy people that you know, have
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: these big Jesus rallies and they talk in tongues, and
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: you get lumped in with white nationalists, you get what
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: riped in lumped in with Christian nationalists that think that
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the ten Commandment should be in every school and no
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: one should be able to practice any other religion as
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a Christian Christian country. There's people that really believe pushing
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: that that you get lumped in with them too. When
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you're just like, hey, I think the Second Amendment's important,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you know, like, oh, you must be a far right
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: wing conspiracy theorist. Like, oh, come on, Like you can't
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: always count on the cops. You know, you should be
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: able to protect yourself because bad people have guns. It's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that simple. Doesn't mean you're going to use them all
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the time. Like this is crazy. You could kill people
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: with a variety of different methods. You know, you don't.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You don't need to lump everything into right and left,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: but people do. They do because they're being told to.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: You know, if you're on the left, you have to
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: accept you know, trans women or women, you have to
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: there's a whole bunch of like they're kind of moving
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: away from that now in a big way. They're moving
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: away from the competitive thing, like with trans women competing
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: in school athletics, because it's like after a certain amount
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of fucking championships, you know, you just gotta go, hey,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: that's a guy, that's a guy.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Be sweet. Those people have always exist.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: But also you're letting them into the women's room, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: now you could have perverts who just say they're trans
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: and then go into the women's room too, Like you
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: didn't think about this. The fact that they never factored
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: in the one segment of society that has always been
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the most hated and the most like looked out, Like
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: make sure that they don't come near you. Psychopathic perverts,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Like psychopathic perverts that prey on men, Guys that want
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to go in women's bathrooms, Guys that want to like
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: grab women after bars. Those guys have always been terrifying. Yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and we just gave them a Willie Walker golden ticket.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Just wear a dress.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Like, imagine you're a fucking old school pervert and you're
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: eighty years old. You're like, fuck, I missed the boat. Yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you've been in and out of jail for doing all
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: kinds of creepy shit pretending you're a woman.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I think we should just be able to hunt hunt them.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Life for real. I would lose zero sly real perverts. Yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Like the thing is like child molusters people, no problem,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: just let's go hunt them. Well, they're broken and I
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: don't know how you could ever think you're going to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: fix them. And then there's this weird trend where in
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: some academic circles they're trying to label them as minor
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: attracted persons, which is just this thing of just empathy
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: falling into chaos, like you have so much empathy that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you're willing to ignore, you know, all kinds of crate
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: like what's going on in the UK with the rape gangs.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: They're willing to ignore it because they don't want to
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: be seen deemed as being racist. They don't want to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: be deems being Islamophobic.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that breakdown of culture and because of you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: some very extreme groups is pretty scary.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: It's scary.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It's super scary.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It's scary because it can happen anywhere in the world.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: It can happen in America too, and if you think
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: it can't, you're nuts. And the beautiful thing about America
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: is you're supposed to be able to practice any religion
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: you want. You're supposed to be able to be a Buddhist,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to be able to be a Baptist. No
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: one should care, and we should all be able to
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: get along. It should be a true melting pot. But
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: there's other organizations that have different plans, and their plans
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: are to take over cities. There's plans that are to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: take over cities and change the laws. And we were
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: talking about with Tim Dillon what happened with dearborn, Michigan.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: All these like liberal people are like, yeah, we love Muslims,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: everyone's amazing. So they got a Muslim mayor and the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: first thing he did is like, no more pride flags.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Shit's illegal because what he would like is sharia l.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Like if you ask the majority of practicing Muslims, like worldwide,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: how many of them would like sharia law, and it's
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: it's it's not a small amount. You know, that's their religion,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: that's what. But the problem with that is, like you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: can't push that on other people. If you want to
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: have your mosque and you want to pray five times
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: a day, wonderful, you should be able to do that
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Everybody should appreciate the fact there's also
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: different ways of worshiping God. Great. I don't know who's right.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: But as soon as a culture starts taking over and
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: putting in values that first of all, gross women, Yeah,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: grossly deteriorate women's rights grossly. That's bad.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: That's when it falls apart.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And that's their culture, and you have to understand that
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: that's they've accepted. When they're wearing those traditional head garbs
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and body coverings, that's their culture and they want women
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: to dress like that, and you know, we have to
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: stop that from spreading, Like you should be able to
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: do it if you want to. But the idea that
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you can take over a town or take over a city,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: that's a flaw in our system because every city should
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: have the same sort of national rights. Every city should
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: have the rights that we have, where you can wear
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to wear, practice whatever religion you want
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to practice, and you shouldn't be persecuted one way or
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the other. But when you get a country like England,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: it's just lets them in mass migration, and then you're
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: ignoring the chaos that comes with it. That's not good,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and that makes you wonder like, are they wanting the
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: society to deteriorate to the point where they can say, hey,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: we're going to make new laws to protect you because
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: you need to protect So you have mass surveillance everywhere,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: more police on the streets, more people getting arrested, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: in England, you know, they're also getting arrested for social
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: media posts that I've been hearing about that more than China,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: more than Russia, more than Russia and China combined.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: It seems it seems as if the grab for power
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: is is just you know, done in plain sight.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, and I hate to say this, but they
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: don't have the Second Amendment. It's part of the problem.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Part of the problem is you're not armed, so like
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: when shit goes sideways, you don't have a lot of options,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: you know, And what are you gonna do. I'll get
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: together with shovels. What are you gonna do. Grandpa's got
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a bird gun, let's go great grandpa's bird gun. What
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the fuck are we doing?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Get grandfather's bird again. That's no way to keep the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: police out of your town.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's uh, it's not good. I think hopefully
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: there's enough sensible people where we're gonna come out on
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: the other end of this. But it's gonna be real
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: hard with this right right versus left bullshit?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: No, well but you know, you know, not to like
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: toot your own horn here, But voices like yours are
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: really important because you examine a lot of different people
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and you've pulled in like almost I was thinking about
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the other day, like an encyclopedia of different type of
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: people and different types of subject matter where you can
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: type it in a chatchypetina and say, can you tell
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: me about this thing that you know, and then oh,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: do you want to hear an two hour podcast that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Joe did about it with the expert of such and such?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And that's pretty cool because then it expands people's mind.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: It's much easier than having to, you know, go and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: read about something. You're like, oh, that's an interesting point. Well,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: if it gets people stimulated, that's great.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: But the reality is we should be teaching people to
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: think correctly from the time they're young, and I think
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: we're spending way too much time giving them information and
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: not teaching them how to think correctly. Yeah, and not
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: also like, you know, giving them something that excites them
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and giving them something that they they can understand why
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it's important to be interested in something like why can
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: benefit you? How can stimulate you? Try new things out,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: like oh this is exciting, I feel better, like feel good,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: like people like tasks like that. We should be taught
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: that from the time we're young. Instead, we're just basically
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: groomed to becoming workers, you know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: As interesting is So. I turned forty in March and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I decided I was going to take the year off,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: so essentially thirty nine to forty, right, because I've been
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: working head down for twenty years, hadn't looked up, been
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: living out of a suitcase, movie to movie to movie
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to movie, you know, blah blah blah blah blah. And
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I thought it would make me, it would give me
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: better perspective, it would maybe whatever, you know, where's then
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: where am I going in the next ten years? Kind
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: of my thinking. Ah, and I actually got more depressed.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, we what the fuck is going on?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I feel more depressed. And it kind of just goes
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: back to just stay busy, get up and do shit.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, you're busy, but you're busy doing
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: what you love. And that is a gift. That's a
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: real gift. And we're both very fortunate in that regard.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And anybody who listening to this that actually does what
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: they love, whatever it is beaky being carpentry.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: You're doing what you love.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: You're so lucky.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Create. Create, don't take. Be a creator in anything, like
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: if you're a plumber or whatever, you know, fix someone's pipes,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: have a purpose and create, don't take. There's takers and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: their creators.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: It's like I was actually listening to podcasting guys said
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: that and I was like, yep, that's it. If you create,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you're exponentially happier. I think because you're you're giving societies.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: It's a benefit to the people that are interacting with
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: you with whatever you're doing. Yeah, and that's good for
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: you for sure. And I think unfortunately, look, I don't
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: want the responsibility being the guy who gives everybody curious
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: things to think about.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: You don't do not the only person, but you are.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I really think that this kind of thinking, the kind
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: of thinking that lets you explore things and gets you
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: interested in things, should be in schools intead of just
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: forcing fucking history down their throats and math down their throats.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Give people the tools to be excited about things, show
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: them cool shit, so sew them cool shit where they
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: realize like, oh, learning about things is actually really interesting.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: It just has to be something you're interested in, and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: then they'll realize like, oh, I can get good at stuff,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I can pursue something instead of just being a cog
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: in the wheel like most people feel. Most people feel like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: fuck the economy sucks. I just got to get a job,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and then then you just get home and you just
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: want to play video games or do something to stimulate
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: yourself because you hate jobs, and then next thing, you know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: you're thirty five and you don't know what the fuck
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you're doing and you're stuck, you know. And that's a
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: lot of people, a lot of people listening to this
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: right now, and it's because they were never instructed how
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to think about things. They were never instructed to try
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: to find something that you're actually interested the job encourage
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: that curiosity, whatever it is, man being a fucking car mechanic.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: What whatever thing you're interested in, there's got to be
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: a thing you just got to find that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: You can get good at anything, and that will produce money.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: It's like the also part of the problem is culturally,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I think we we place too much value in like
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: becoming rich and oh, you got to do this, and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: it's like no, no, no, hold on, don't miss the point.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Get good at something and you'll that you love and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: then that will produce. If you get good enough in anything,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you'll make money at it for sure. And the problem
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: is like with kids, it's everything today. They want it fast,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: really fast. They want ozembic, right, they don't want to
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: go on a diet, they want get you know, whatever
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: it is fill in the blank with whatever thing that
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: they want to get really fast with scams, crypto anything
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: they're going to get rich quick, you know, whatever they
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: got to do to get rich quick, because it's like
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: this this TikTok mind culture where people just want that
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: easy quick fix and a pill instead of doing the work.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: When you think about a job or going down a
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: career path, like acting, for instance, like what you did.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: First of all, you did it, you would think, oh, great,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Clint Easwood's dad, he'll help him. No, fucking made it
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: worse for.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: People were like, nah, you had to prove that you
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: were a really good actor for like a long time
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: before people go, oh, yeah, Scott's actually really good because
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: it's always gonna be your Clin Eastwood's kid, yeah, you know,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: And then he didn't fucking help you. But like your
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: grind was, I know you, your grind was years and
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: years and years and years and years and years of
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: just fucking hustling and putting in the work. Most people
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: see that and they go, wait, how long is it
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: gonna take?
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: What? Fourteen twenty years, twenty years?
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: What?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Like when we talked to comics, that's a big, big
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: thing that comes up in comedy clubs. Like most comedians say,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: a comic isn't even really comic till ten years, right,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if that's real. There's something
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: to that, there's something to reps, for sure, But I
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: think intention as is as important as what the hours
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: or you know, just the amount of time.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're just mailing it in in the gym.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: It's not the same as yeah, I'm gonna build this
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: or get really good at that. Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: One, especially skills related things like jiu jitsu is a
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: perfect example of that. Jiu jitsu one percent you get
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: better the more you do it, but one thousand percent
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: if you drill correctly and you have like mastery of
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the fundamentals of the techniques, like you really truly understand
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: like leverage points, where you're supposed to be, when it's secured,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: when it's not, when when there's an escape, when there's
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: no escape. If you don't understand that, you're just rolling
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: around and just like resisting hard with people, and you'll
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: get somewhere, but you won't get nearly as far as
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: you can get with focused, really systematic breaking down of techniques.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: So it's like the ten thousand hour thing is it's
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: there's something to it. The more you do it, the
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: better you'll get. But really it's the intention that you
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: put into each and everything you do that is as,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: if not more important than the time, Like it's amount
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: of it's about it's about enthusiasm. It's about enthusiasm and
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: your willingness to like look at it as objectively as possible,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: you know, especially if you're like with jiu jitsu. Is
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the thing it's like your egos involved because you don't
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: want to get tapped out and you don't want to
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: get humiliated, and so you don't want to try things,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: so you keep a tight game and you never grow.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And it's, uh, your ego actually holds.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: You back by that and that, but telling people that
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: it's going to take that long, if you knew how
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: long it would take to get to black belt, you're like,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: oh god, it's too much work.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Well, also, I think the thing you realize, you know,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: as your ego gets stripped from you doing jiu jitsu,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: is that you realize it doesn't matter what level I'm at,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: there's always going to be a thousand more guys above
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: that level that will still choke me out and you're
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: gonna you realize how much how Like You're like, no,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I kind of am a pussy. You're like, I'm not.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not as tough as I you know,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you know now you really know? Well I really know
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: because I work for the Ufcity, so.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: They're always around, like every week, and dozens of guys
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: who can kill me, and then there's people that can
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: kill them, which is crazy. It's like there's levels to levels.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: You know, when a guy like Iliot Taporia knocks out
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Max Holloway, You're like whoa. And then justin Gage he
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: beats up Ilio Tapori, Like whoa. It's like, there's so
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: many guys out there. You have to be humble, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: it's good for you. It's good for you to not
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: be delusional. But my point was for young people, they
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: have to get interested in the path. It can't be
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: just the results, and the path is really where you
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: grow and you become something special in life. You have
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: to be on that path for a long ass time
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and try to keep getting better at it with every
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: every day, every every effort you put into it, do it,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: whatever the fuck you're doing, do it to try to
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: get better at that thing, and eventually success will come.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to manage that success. You're can chase it,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to figure things out. But the most
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: important thing should always be the path.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's in everything and anything you do.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: If you're making music, if you're writing books. It can't
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: be I'm gonna sell a million copies. It's got to be.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I need to fucking make this the greatest literature that's
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: ever been read.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: But I think I also think we need to push
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: because of this whole like quick money and thing, the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: morals and codes people have are not taught enough to
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: young people. You know, do the right thing when you
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: say you're going to do something, be there. When you
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: make a promise, do it complete it, don't just you know,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: people just ourselves so happy and this culture of you know, whatever,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: fuck then we can just do whatever we want. It's like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: that's fucking terrible behavior to put out to young people.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: You know, you've got to have a code and a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: value system. That's my dad, I mean he was, so
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you know, you make a promise, that's all you have
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: in this life is your word.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: So it's like you gotta do something. You gotta like,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: should have been president? Why didn't you run for president?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: He would because he did, because he did politics. He
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: would have he didn't want Yeah, and then he said
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: never again. People like you would have been a fun president,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: though I don't know if I would have liked it, though,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: then it would have been like everyone No, everyone would
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: have come after me for no reason. Bro, you would
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: have been Don Junior, Jesus.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: In the box, roped up into some crypto scheme. Everybody
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: would hate you making billions. Yeah, jez Louise, Yeah, yeah,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: politics are dirty. I wouldn't have done it either if
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I was him. But you know, like when Ronald Reagan ran,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of people like finally, finally a guy who
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: like is good at acting. I mean, that's kind of
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: what the president is. It's a role as part.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Of it is a role, like you're playing a leader.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: And the way you behave it's like you have to.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: It's very formal, the way you communicate, it's very formal,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: you know, and actors are going to be better at that,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: you know, like Josh Brolin, that guy could be the president.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: That dude could kill it as the president. He looks
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: like a president.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Didn't he play a president and did George Bush movie? Yes,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: that's right, he played Bush. Yeah, he could be president.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: You know, I know they tried to get the Rock
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to run. Yeah.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I think he was thinking about it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not much. He told me fuck this, yeah, or.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe he was just hyping it up. He was kind
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of he was toying with He was like, yeah, I'm
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: going to do it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: He's very smart with social media. He's a wizard at
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that stuff. But I think he's too smart to run
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: for president.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: You crazy, like you get that giant ass pro wrestler,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that guy.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: He should be our president. At least we know that
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: our president could fuck up all the other presidents. That
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: would be nice.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Now that's what i'd like to see. I'd like to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: see some sort of version. It's like, okay, great, you
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: got to be smart enough, but you also have to
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: maybe do some sort of like fight or some sort
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: of physical like competition, because you can't just be you know,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: you gotta be athletic, you gotta be Yeah, that would
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: be cool.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: We should really make them do about seven grams of mushrooms.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Anybody who wants to be president, be good, you do
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: seven grams of mushrooms. We film it. We do it
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: in a dark room with infrared cameras or you know,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: night vision cameras.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Freak out. Yeah, yeah, we want to know how well
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: you handle God, but also expand your mind a little bit,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: don't be so rigid in your ways, right Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Well, also, I think a lot of those people would
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: benefit from a psychedelic experience because it would just make
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: them realize that, like, there's a lot more to the
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: world than you can see right in front of your face.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: And you don't think that until you have it, And
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: then you have it, and they'll never think any differently again,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You're always gonna be like, Okay, there's a part of
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: this that's not real.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I did I trust me. I did the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I did five m e O And it was I mean,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: that was some life changing stuff.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Well, you feel like you're dead when you take that stuff, right,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: that's the first thing you think, like, oh my god,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I killed myself. Yeah, like I'm not around anymore. Yeah,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: And and and I think what was the most powerful
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: thing was when you come back. It's it felt like
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: seeing the world for the very first time again, like
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the first time you saw grass the first time you
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: saw the sun the first time you felt the wind.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I cried. I bawled for forty five
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: minutes in my buddy's girlfriend's arms. After I did it, whoa,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm just so good.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I'm comfortable after about five seconds, but like, hey, stop
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: crying the couch hugging my girlfriend. Bro, you had some
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: get off her, but it was powerful. Well, your your
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: ego is completely shattered that stuff. And you probably weren't
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: even thinking of who you're hugging. You just want to
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: hug a human. And it's the feeling of it is
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: so like you're a part of everything in the universe
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: and there is no there's no like particular destination, it
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: doesn't exist. You're a part of everything all at once.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: It's a very strange feeling. And no one ever has
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: ever done it, and go, I didn't think it was
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: that big a deal. Like everybody who does is like wow, Yeah,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: like I've known. I know a few prominent right wing
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: people that have done it. They would completely change their life.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: A couple of them don't even talk about it, so
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want to mention any names. Yeah, but then
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: they want to talk to me about it and they're like, yeah,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: so I'm a different person now, like whoever I used
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: to be, I'm not that guy anymore. Like that's that's
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: because once you know, once you know that you really
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: are a part of the whole universe. And it's like
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: all the molecules, everything everywhere is connected. There is no space,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: there's no space between anything. Everything is filled with something.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: It's all a soup. It's a giant soup of energy
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: and vibration.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: And it kind kind of actually made me sad for
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the people who will never try it and are so
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: dealing with so much pain or dealing with such a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: rigid thinking or whatever it is, that it could help them.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh man, that is sad.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: The rigid thinking is a big one. It's interesting that
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: it's becoming much more accepted to talk about. You know,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I see like grown adults who are very successful who
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: run businesses, and they talk about psychedelics. And when I
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: was young, when people talked about magic mushrooms or anything
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: like that, it was always like you were a fool.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: You were a crazy person who wanted to like trip
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: and see things that weren't there. It was never like
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: you were trying to expand your consciousness, and you were
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: trying to just enrich your experience in life and have
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: a better perspective and ego, death and all those things
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: that people are trying to do and be more connected
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: to God. But now it's commonly discussed, it comes up
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: all the time. So the public's perception on this has
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: really radically shifted in my lifetime. And I think it's
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: because of the Internet. I think it's really it really
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: started to change where I heard people talking about it
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: in the early two thousands, and it was even before
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: social media, because there was a bunch of articles that
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: were written and a bunch of people were talking about
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: positive psychedelic experiences, and people were talking about how it
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: helped them quit heroin, and people were talking about all
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: these different things that were connected to mushrooms in particular.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: But then all the Terrence McKenna stuff that he was
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: talking about DMT and LSD and a bunch of different
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: psychedelics that have helped him, and so all this stuff
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: started getting out there, and then YouTube, and with YouTube
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: and with podcasts, then people really started hearing about it
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: from people like my called pollen and you're like, whoa
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Michael Pollen is a very respected journalist. Like what is
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: he talking about? He's running wrote a book about psychedelics
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: called Change Your Mind? Like what? And so it's now
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: where rational, intelligent, educated people are free to talk about it,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and they often do. And so that's just alone gives
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: me hope because I feel like that's a that's a
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: big change in how people view something. Well was it?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And I don't exactly know the history, but I've heard
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: was there alcohol lobbyists that we're trying to kind of suppress?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: You know, we use this, I mean the alcohol lobby
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: has did they also go to psychedelics as well? Where
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: they haven't yet?
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: No, Well, I'm sure they are leaning in the direction
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: of it not being legalized. But the problem with alcohol
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and marijuana is that places that do have legal marijuana,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: you see a diminished alcohol in cake. Sure, the diminished
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: alcohol intakes measurable It's like they cost the money. Yep,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: it's real. You also have the darker thing, which is
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: prison lobbies. Explain. Yeah, they lobby, prison guards, unions, they lobby.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of people that lobby to make marijuana laws,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: keep them on the books so they could keep locking people.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Up sure, because that's a massive business, right.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, their business is keeping people in cages, which is
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: really fucking crazy. Yeah, it's really crazy that someone is
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: who's in the business of locking people up can actually
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: lobby to make sure more people get locked up and
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: get locked up for something that knows. Yeah, and especially marijuana.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Like most Americans don't think that you that it should
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: be illegal. It's a large number. It's like more than
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: seventy percent. I think, like, what was the what amount
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: of Americans think that marijuana should be legal? Let's see
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: if there's a poll, put that into perplexity, see what
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: the universe says. I would say it's about sixty seven
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: percent of a Mariamericans think marijuana should be legalized, legalized.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about it? Do you think
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: about all drugs being legal?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: It's a tough argument because for sure, you're gonna lose
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: some people if you make all drugs legal. Look, if
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: they made drugs legal right now, I'm not gonna go
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: buy heroin. I'm not buying fentanyl right I'm not into math.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not interested. If I could go to the pharmacy
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: and pick up math, I'm not going to pick it
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: up but some people will. Seventy percent. Seventy percent of
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Americans say marijuana should be legal in general, according to
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: recent gallupole, if you include people who support either medical
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: or recreational legalization, it's eighty eight to eighty nine percent
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: US adults say marijuana should be legal in at least
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: some form, with only about eleven percent wanting it to
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: be completely illegal, and those people need to try it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: So look, I'm actually pot never agreed well with me,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: and I think I have. I always I got a
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: little scared in paranoid sometimes where I was like, maybe
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I have like a propensity to like some sort of
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: schizophrenia or something. I was like, this isn't I was like,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I don't like this. This made me kind of go skychoschematic.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: And so did it just.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Make you scared or did it like distort reality for
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: you in a way that no, I don't.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it distoryed reality. It just got
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: my brain, you know, it got my brain so freaked
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: out about things that was out of my control. That's
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the part I like, Now I can see why, because
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: like you know, mushrooms, they make you face some things
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: that you're going on in your life. Yeah, and I
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: think that's healthy. I don't know. Patchas never agreed with me.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I think what I like about it is when it
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: wears off.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I like I like that fear.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I like, like Joey Diaz says, go meet the devil.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I think there's some some benefit to freaking out because
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: then it calms down and you have more perspective. But
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I think what's going on is you really can't think
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: about all the threats of the world and all the
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: problems in the world, and all the things can go
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: wrong in your life. You can't think about those on
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a regular basis. You got to kind of put your
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: blinders on and keep on trucking. Sure, and then marijuana's like.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: What's that in the corner of the room that you're
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: scared of? And you're like, oh, but I will say,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: as you know important, like before the frontal cortex is
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: like fully developed, because there is some danger for young
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: men specifically yes, right, yes, and schizophrenia and like you know,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: some stuff that can come if you're not I think
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: that's with anything, right.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know as much causes schizophrenia, but it's
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: really bad for brain development, especially young people that smoke regularly.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: It's not good for you. It's just not good for you.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: And I know that's hard for people to hear because
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: they want to get high. Just trust me, if you're
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: getting high all the time when you're fourteen years old,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: it's going to fuck your head up. Yeah, it's not
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: good for you. It's just not good for your brain development.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: And it's one of the most important things about you
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: as a human being is your ability to think. Well,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: it's very import and.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: If operating system, don't screw it up before it has
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: a time to.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Like and just for he he's and hahas, because you're
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: bored in math class, you want to get high all
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: the time, you know. I mean people who have done
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: it and got away with it and they're okay, but
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of people have not. And you don't want
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: to sabotage your whole life just because everybody you know
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: is getting high. It's just not worth it. And that
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: also goes with alcohol. There's young people that are like fourteen,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: fifteen years old that are getting drunk four or five
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: times a week. Like, don't do it, man, I'm telling you,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: it is fucking bad for the development of your brain.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Whatever your look, maybe you have a very high potential,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: maybe your brain. Maybe you're always going to be smart
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna be fine. But I guarantee you where
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: if you're getting drunk all the time, you're getting high
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: all the time, wherever you would be is not where
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: you are. You might be still a very high intellect,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: still very smart. You would have been smarter, your brain
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: would have functioned better, you'd have probably had a better perspective.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: It's not good for you. Yeah, and you know we
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: glamorize it for kids, like the kids at parties drinking
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: having a good time, but fucking bad for you. Don't
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: do it, yeah, but you can't. You also can't tell
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: them don't drink, because if you tell them don't drink,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: they just want to drink. You just kind of getting them.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Well, your Europe tends to have like a better it
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: seems as a whole. I'm sure they have their problems too,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: but it might seems better. Yeah, you know, their ease
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: into it, right, have a little like less is more
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: without with anything, actually less is more. Yeah, it's not forbidden.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can have a glass of wine with
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: your family when you're eleven, twelve years old, you know,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: it's not that big a deal.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: That Protestant culture we have is very rigid. Don't do
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: this or you're gonna die.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: It creates drug addicts and hoes. People just want to
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: not listen to their parents. They just want to do
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: something that's fucking like whatever you're doing, I'm doing the
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: opposite because you are fucking annoying and you've been the
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: bane of my existence. As soon as I get out
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: of this house, I'm smoking crack.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Fuck you, dad, Do you know what you're talking about?
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: So, to get back to your question, the problem with
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: legalization is you're gonna have a bunch of people that
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: do drugs that wouldn't do drugs normally. Because it's legal,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: they're gonna try.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: About when you're of age, like I don't call it
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: twenty five.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but even then, you're gonna have a bunch of
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: people that don't like their life and just decide to
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: go to the corner store and pick up some heroin. However,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: what you're not going to do is empower the drug
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: cartels and organize crime. And that's what we're doing now.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: So in one way or another, people are going to
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: get drugs. So how are they gonna get drugs during prohibition, Well,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: they're gonna get drugs from criminals. That's what they've always done.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: That's what they did during the alcohol prohibition. That's what
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: people do. And when you've got a multi billion dollar industry,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: maybe trillion dollar industry right next door to us, which
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: is Mexico, and then just bringing it through, bringing it through,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: like what do we do when we empowering them? Or
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: would you rather have it legal and have a substantial
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: portion of those profits block out everything that comes in illegally,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: have a substantial amount of the profits put to rehabilitation
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: and treatment so other people.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I don't also think from a like a quality perspective too,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Like you're like, hey, that's cool, we get it. People
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: are gonna do this, but we're gonna monitor it and
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: make sure it is what it says it is.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, alcohol is legal. There's a lot of people
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: that don't drink. They don't like it. They don't like
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the way it makes them feel, they don't like the
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: way it makes them act, They say stupid things, they
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: feel like shit in the morning. They don't drink. That
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: will be the same with cocaine. That will be the
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: same with heroin. However, there's some people that are alcoholics,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: and alcohol is legal and it's everywhere, and these people
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: will hit bars and get fucked up every night, and
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: their life is gonna be a mess. They're gonna die
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: of liver poisoning. That's normal too. It's very unfortunate. But
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: you can't nerve the world.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you gotta like trust a little bit that.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be really hard to sell to America
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: that cocaine, heroin, and meth are now all legal. It'll
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: be really hard to sell them. Yeah, but I think
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: ultimately it'd probably be for Yeah, all those those are
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: less troublesome. You know, not a lot of people are
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: dying from MDMA, but people definitely abuse it and they
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: just get addicted to it. They're doing it all the time. Apparently,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: that whole thing about making holes in your brain is bullshit.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Oh really that was a campaign.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think it was probably just some internet horseshitt's
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: let's find out what it does. MDMA does? Does MDMA
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: cause holes in your brain? Put that in there. See
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: what perplexity has to say. Well, they think they've proved.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: The couple's therapy, right, I mean that was the impetus
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: of the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: do use it for couple's therapy, but it's also really
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: good for soldiers with PTSD and that's what MAPS has
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: done with their studies. That's the big focus of their
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: studies is PTSD with the MDMA. There's something about MDMA's
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: the empathy that it gives you, The compassion that gives
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: you lets you drop a lot of things that are
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: in your head. No, MDMA does not literally punch holes
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: in the brain that would show up as empty gaps
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: on a scan, but high or repeated doses can damage
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: serotonin neurons and alter brain signaling, especially with heavy use.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: So the holes where the holes idea come from. Anti
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: drug companies popularized dramatic brain scan images that were described
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: as showing holes, but these are actually areas of reduced
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: activity or reduced binding of certain markers, not physical gaps
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: in brain tissue. Still, that sounds bad. Reduced activity, reduced
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: binding of certain markers, that sounds terrible.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I chalk up all this. It's like moderation to everything. Yeah,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: less of everything. It's like I disagree with some people
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: that I really trust. You know, you know, what's his name,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: doctor Paul Saladino, the carnivore doctor. Yeah, I really like
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: most of what he says. But he's like, don't drink,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: and it's like it's like, well, maybe, but also it's
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: maybe pretty nice to have a glass of wine. It's
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: nice to laugh with friends and it's nice. Like, that's
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: important to in life. And I think balance, we can
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: you tip the scale one way if you're totally extreme
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: and then you're just like the social life and you're
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't you know, go out and like,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: you know, really enjoy yourself for a second. Yeah, it's important, moderation, moneration.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: And you're absolutely right about social life. Being Loneliness kills
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: people quicker than anything else. Yeah, people that are lonely,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: they have a They die younger than people who smoke cigarettes.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Well, it's bad for you. Yeah, it's being lonely is
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: actually bad for you. Feeling bad it's bad for you.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I mean it seems like it should be right, it's bad.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: It feels bad, probably bad for you. Feeling good is
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: good for you. So a little tipsy with your friends,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: you're laughing. I love you.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I love you too, Bro. It's great. It's great.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: It's great for people. Yeah, you're get to feel like shit.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: It takes your electro li likes, take your take your electrolytes.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Drink a lot of water, get in the fucking sauna. Yeah, yeah,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: don't do it every day. Don't do it get an
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: ivy Dave chabelle Tt be that trick. When I was
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: torn with Dave, all he would do is like after
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: shows they would just get ivs. He would get vitamin
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: ivs in the morning. They would do it all the
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: time to big bags of glued to thigh own to
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: deal with the alcohol.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd go into like that. They would have a room.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: You go into the room to be like eight of
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: us there, all hooked up to ivy bags talking shit.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: It was fun. That sounds good, but it's smart, Like
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: that's how you counteract the fact that, look, he takes
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of there's a lot of benefit, particularly for
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: his job. Right, Like Dave's job is being silly and
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: pointing out ridiculous aspects of our society. What better way
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: to do that than to be talking shit with your
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: friends with a couple of drinks.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: In You imagine all the things you would have missed
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been in your comedy, that wouldn't have
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: been in your life. You've just I got to go home. Now,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: it's eight o'clock. I got to go home.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: You're like, that's boring exactly.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: You become a boring person too, But there's also balance.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to realize, like I've done this dance before,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: I got to get up at six.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: See you guys, Yep, there's good to that too.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: It's like you have you have to have discipline, but
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: you also have to have the ability to cut loose.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: And it's hard. It's hard to balance those things out,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: you know, Like you're saying about vitamins, like I'm get
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: off the boat, I'm on the boat, you know like that.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: It's like there's some things that should be non negotiable,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: and for me there's two. There's nutrition and exercise. Those
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: are non negotiables. All the other things I'll fuck around
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: with in terms of like.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: They're all bonus, right, Yeah, bunds, you have to get cardio,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: you have to hit weights, you got a stretch, you
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: got a goot, good sleep.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to do the workout stuff just for
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: my brain above the body stuff. It's great to keep
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: the body healthy and I'm very aware of that and
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: I think about that as well, But for me, it's
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: my brain. When I have a nice, good hard workout day,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I'm so easygoing, I'm so free.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Do you have adhd Oh?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure?
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, same I think everybody does.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Anybody is anod.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Anything e ADHD.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Everyone has it. I think it's I think it's a superpower.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: No, I do too. We still people. And you're probably dyslexic. No,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: not okay, because that goes hand in hand quite often. Yeah,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: and and are you just like I'm just lexic? And
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: so explain to me what you see when you like
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: see text? I jump? I jump, so you know you
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: need to go left to right. My brain starts and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: then jumps and then it goes.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Is it regardless of the subject matter, Like if you're thinking,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: if you're reading about something really interesting, does it do
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: the same thing.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And now it just takes intense focus for me
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: to read. And once I get in a good rhythm,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I can get going. I can train my brain to
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: read better. But when I'm not focused or there's other
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: things going on, I jump, and then my brain has
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: a really tough time. So I get tired very easily.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh and I get you know,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I get a little frustrated tired, and then I fall asleep.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Hmmm like that. I do fall asleep if I try
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: to read at night, But I don't have a hard
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: time so I don't have the dyslexic thing, but I've
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: had friends that have it, and I don't understand. I'm like, so,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: you see it right, and you're going through it, But
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: what is going on in your brain where it's making
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: you jump back and forth?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's just losing focus. I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: In regardless of the like, it could be the most
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: important thing you've ever read. You know, Like what if
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: you just like won the lottery. You got a piece
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: of paper in the mail. I'm reading that you just
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: won five and you're like, wait a minute, do I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: owe five billion?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: What is that saying?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I can't read this? Read this for me?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I don't. Yeah, it's just I don't know
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: if it's about it's about the text messages are cool. Yeah,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I mean it's all. It's just it's harder. And now,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: you know, like when I grew up, they didn't give
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: any sort of special treatment to that. Now it's almost
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: mandatory in schools if you're dyslexic. They give you more
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: time for test taking, they give you more time for reading.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: They have you know, teachers that will help with the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: dyslexia of there's tools you can you use now. Yeah,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: so I got kind of boned.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Check something here.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: This is something weird, could be related. I've been seeing
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: this a lot online and I'm very curious about this.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: People are saying there's a link between ADHD symptoms. I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: guess we'll call it and histamine levels in your body.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: And I brought this up on the screen.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: It's not on shine for everybody, but there's something that
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: pops up about it. There is some studies to it,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: and what I've been seeing is this link. People are
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: taking zyrtech and pepsidac together, which creates some sort of
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: histamine receptor blocking HU interesting And this is where I'm.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't it blocks histamine receptors located in the blood, vessels,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: airway and skin and reducing allergic responses sinus congestion. So
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: they're saying that it's it's a reaction to histamine.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: That's like, that's the mixture of zertech Becauzertex is more
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: like allergies. Everyone's into that pepsidac is like acid, and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: I wondering.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: If there's different things that they're talking about when they're
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: saying ADHD. Like I could see people being easily distracted.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: But when I say ADHD, the people that I know
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: that haven't. Usually there's one or two things in their
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: life that they can really fucking focus on, you know,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: whether it's playing golf or whatever. It is a thing
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: that you do where you could just focus on that.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: But other stuff you're just scatter brained and you can't.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: And they'll say, oh, you have ADHD, you know, or
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: you know you're thinking a million things at once. You
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: can't focus. That's what they always call ADHD. But everyone
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: that I know that has that, it's always whether or
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: not they're interested in the thing. Sure, as soon as
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: they find the thing they're interested in, they can lock
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: in for fucking twelve hours and forget to eat.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, some some people when pressure sorry to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: cut you off. When like you squeeze people, they either
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: excel or they fold when you squeeze. Typically I excel,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: So I don't know where that comes from. But when
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you put the pressure on, I mean that's why maybe
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: you know I can do the job I do. It's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: like there's two hundred people looking at you. It's emotional scene.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: You got to get yourself to tears or it's an emotional.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: It's like you squeeze. Some people are good at it.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's also you had to be good at
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: it because you didn't have a backup plan, you know,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: that's also part of it. It's like, you know your
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: dad wasn't going to help you out. You really were
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: out there. Like, if you want to make it in anything,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: you have to be able to perform, like no matter
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: what it is. If you're a lawyer, when you're in court,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: you have to perform. You have to you have to
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: be able to like keep your shit together and execute.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: That's your job relies on that. And if you're a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: focused person, you recognize that and you work hard to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: make sure that you focus and that you can execute
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: when when it's important. It's like people that avoid things
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: that make them uncomfortable they never developed that skill. And
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: that's very unfortunate because it's one of the most important
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: skills you could ever have with anything. It's being able
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: to focus and being able to perform under pressure. It's
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: very important, and we're missing that in life. You know,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: we don't have these life or death moments like that
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: our ancestors had all the time, where some fucking villagers
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: are sneaking up over the hill and you spot them,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: and you run back to the fucking camp and you
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: grab the bows and arrows and go to war. Like
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: we don't have that, So we don't have like like
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: a constant checking of whether or not your pressure system
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: is functional.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean to bring it to this movie that
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: I've got coming out tomorrow. It's a World War two movie,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Lucky Strike. I'll say the name plug it.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: That generation of men had that right because they I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: mean World War Two. I talked to my dad about it,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: what it was like. He was only like twelve years
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: old when World War Two was going on, but he
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: says he remembers listening to the radio and everyone in
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: the family listening like you could hear pins and needles
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: because it was we didn't know what was going to happen.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, people were scared for their life, even back
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: home in America. They didn't know it was gonna happen.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: And that I think is why that generation of men
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: and women are just from a different breed, you know,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: And you know you've said it before on your podcast.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: It's like the hard hard men, you know, create easier times,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: easier times, create and it's like the cycle that we're in.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: It it's mhm, it's yeah, I don't know, it's uh,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I know. I think we need a little bit of that.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: We need a little harder, harder men.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Well, we need to stop using this term toxic masculinity. No,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: there's criminal behavior. Like toxic masculinity is a guy who
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: beats people up and robs people in rapes. That's toxic.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: That's criminal behavior. Okay, Masculine behavior is not. It's protective.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Masculine behavior is a guy who gets things done, provides
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: for his family, takes care of people. You can call
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: them at two o'clock in the morning because you need
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: a favor or you're stuck on the side of the road.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Like all that shit is important. Strong people are good.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: It's it's good to have strong people like and this
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: idea that somehow know the strength is ad for society,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: it's like really crazy. It's like, no, it's the strength
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: needs to be channeled correctly. And that's why I think
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: we have to encourage more people to exercise. And I
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: would say for men, you should at least try martial arts.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: It's so good for your brain, it's so good for
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: your confidence. It's so good for your ability, and you're
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: also your understanding of like your vulnerability. So many people
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: are fucking delusional. I've seen so many drunk people that
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: don't know how to fight start fights and you're like,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: do you want to die? Are you trying to die?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Because you coulda you gotta run into some.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Fucking guy who knows how to fight, and he's gonna
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: hit you in the face and you're gonna bounce your
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: head off the fucking concrete.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: You're gonna die.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: So stop stop doing this. But that delusional comes from
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: not being around vastics all the time. Yeah, not sharpened,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: having experience, knowing what it actually is. And it's dangerous
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: and you should. You should do some dangerous things in
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: your life. It's probably good for you. It's good to
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: experience a little bit of fear. It's good to be nervous.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you got to grow, and we are.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: We're in a society where people just want relaxation, they
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: want comfort, they want entertainment, and they just want to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: be sedentary, and that is fucking terrible for our mental health. Coincidentally,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: we're in a mental health crisis. We're a giant percentage
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: of people who act that way, or sedentary and overweight
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: and not taking care of themselves are mentally ill.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: You said something that was interesting, the being scared, being
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: really scared and pushing through that thing whatever it is. Yeah,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: for me when I you know, it's been martial arts,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: but it's also been surfing and you know, being scared
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: for your life on big days and going through that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: and getting to the other side. You've never been calmer,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: You've never been more zen with nature and clear in
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: your mind about and happy because you've accomplished them and
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: you've pushed your boundaries. You kept pushing them and pushing
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: them and pushing them.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: How old when you start surfing?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I was young eight ten? Oh wow, Yeah, I mean
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: you know where it was like and and you know,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: at first it's you know, these ways scare you, and
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: then it's you know, the you know, bigger than the
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: rooms scare you, and and you go through these it
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: kind of could be you feel like life and death
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: experience if you you know, if you push, if you're
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: pushing yourself.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Have you ever had a shark situation.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I've seen sharks, but never in a way that that's
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: been like, Oh my god.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: I'm in bro if I saw a shark, that would
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: be oh my god, I'm on a styrofoam fucking yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a difference between between you know, seeing a
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: shark further away, or seeing a shark on a boat,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: or seeing a shark you know isn't gonna hurt you.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You have a conversation with
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: the shark? Bro right, No, but look, you spent.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: You spend as much time in the water.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: You spend much.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Time in the water, as you know. The surfer have
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: done it their whole life. You you you kind of understand
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: what what sharks are gonna hurt? What's going on here?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: Jamie great White talking and powder borders last week?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Oh great, oh good lord? Do they even know it's happening?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my god? How do they not see that? Finn
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: not looking behind them? Oh my god, they didn't even
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: see it? That's you sure? This is an AI it's
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: ABC News.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Wow. But I don't actually don't think there's any more sharks.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I think there's just more cameras, you know, there's just
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: more people with drones and cameras seeing them.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Well, there has been heightened shark activity in some places
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: where people are for sure. I think particularly in northern California.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I think in Audralia too.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Australia's a lot of that man there. They
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: seem to be angry over there too. Their sharks are
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: angry everything something fucking. Their crocodiles are angry. They fucked
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: people up. I was reading reading about this guy who
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: was the first guy to die in an alligator attack
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: in Texas since eighteen thirty something, and the story is now,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true. Jamie, pull this up,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: see if it's true. The guy's name supposedly rest in peace,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Tommy Tommy Woodward. He was drinking with some friends in
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: a marina in Orange, Texas when he decided to swim
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: in Adams Buy You. People warned him about a massive
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: alligator that had been seen in the water. His friend
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: pointed out near the dock and his response was fuck
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: that gator. That was the last thing he said. And
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: then they killed the gator killed him. He was the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: first guy killed from an alligator in Texas since eighteen
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: thirty six.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't swim in the buy.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: You, but that is one of the most Texas fucking
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: things that anybody's ever said fuck that gator right before
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: he died. He's probably.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Drunk as fuck.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: He jumped in a Fuck that gator is a wild
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: thing to say before the gate eats you. And that's
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: you know, humility. You gotta have a little humility. Tommy, Tommy,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: don't say fuck that gator. Here it is man mocks alligator,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: jumps in water and is killed.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Oh this is recent No. Fifteen.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: So what is the story. What does it say? Does
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: it say he said fuck that gator? In this article?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Fuck that guy?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: So there's a sign that's supposted. It says no swimming
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: alligators and uh oh yeah it said it. He removed
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: his shirt, removed his billfold. Someone shouted a warning, and
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: he said, blank that gat blank the alligators fucking he said, fuck,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: they say blank? Why didn't they just right f dash
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: dash dash jumped in the water and almost immediately yelled
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: for help.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: That could have been with the guy actually quoted even
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: though he you know, he wasn't quoting him.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe he doesn't flex the F word.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Right right, right right? Yeah? Immediately yelling for help is crazy.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was in Florida a couple of years back.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: We went alligator hunting, and uh, they're everywhere, Like it's
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: kind of disconcerting. We're in the Everglades, like in there
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: there's a ranch where you can go hunt alligators. It is, Uh,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: they're everywhere. It's not hard to find them. They're fucking
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: all over the place. Like it's how many of them
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: are there that you don't see? Is the real question.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: It's a weird feeling because I thought like it would
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: be like hunting elk, like you got to go find them,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: like we'll be glass and for him. Where's the elk?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Go over the next ridge. Do you hear anything? Somebody
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: make a call? Do you hear that out there? No? No, no, no, no, no,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: there's there's one. Oh there's one. Oh there's one. Oh,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: here's one. Or here's a dead one. Here's one. Another
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: alligator killed. They're fucking look at this.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: No thanks dinosaurs.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Where is this? This is guy's tent? Yea?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Oh god, bro, run you get that video off what
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I've seen.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: This isn't this in like Brazil? This is in Brazil?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: I think this guy? Oh fuck all that look all
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: the eyes.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see that.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: That was what I was trying to God, that's terrified,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: so they must all come out of the water at night.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: And this dude put his tent therefore, Oh my god, dude,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: that is insane. That's insane. And you know they're all hungry.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: There's that many of them. How many deer can they eat?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: You know, they're not small at all.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Dude, they all could eat you.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Fuck all that. But the weird feeling about Florida being
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: there was the just the sheer numbers of them, and
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: then knowing how many pythons there are. And I didn't
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: see any pythons, but I go, how many do you
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: guys see pythons?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Of it?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Bro Like, occasionally you'll be just driving you'll see something
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: making its way across the road and it's fifteen feet long. No,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: like a fucking football player's thigh.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: I don't mess with that, So I don't. I'm I
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: would way rather be in the water with sharks, because
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: at least you can you can you know, you can
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: a tree if you're out in the woods. But in
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: the bye you I don't know, man's tree swamp. It's yeah, don't.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Go in the water water there, But outside of the water,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I would wait rather be on ground. If you're like
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: if you have you know, distance and the gun, you
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: have a lot of things. When you're in the water
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: with a shark, you're fucked. Man. You can barely.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Move well, you can actually if you if you they're
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: really deterrent by if you touch their nose. So if
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: they're coming at you and you poke them hit their nose,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: they're usually going to turn for real.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you done this? It gets so that's crazy.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: So when they come after you, don't flip your legs
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: and scream and from bop them on the nose. I've
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: heard that before. I've heard punch them. I'm like, what
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: are you talking about? Yeah, here it says bop the nose.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: I'll punching a shark in the face. Save this hollow
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Hawaiian surfer.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not good either way. You don't want
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: to be in the water with an angry shark.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Well, in Florida, they don't have many shark problems, but
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: they do have bull sharks. And I was watching this
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: video there's these guys that go fishing. I guess it's
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: the keys and they go off of this giant bridge
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: and it's like real.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Far to the water.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: So they have to have this like gaff system where
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: they drop a line down, then the gaff the fish
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: and they have to pull it up. They're catching these
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: tunas and they never get them to the to the
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: to the bridge. They're just getting destroyed by sharks. The
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: sharks all over the place down there. Yeah.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Bull sharks are real dangerous because they they'll keep attacking,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: whereas a lot of sharks bite out of you know,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: misconfusion right there. They sort of think you're a seal
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: or something and then they bite and the yeah, okay,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: bull sharks they'll just keep coming. They're like little chihuahuas,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: like pit bulls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck those things. They
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: catch them a lot. Now, what is going on with
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: this guy?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Bull sharks eating the tuna?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: Oh really the video there's actually no view maybe.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Not uh well, this guy is actually in the water.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: The guys that I've seen is this the keys as well?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: I said, big sharks circling. I thought it was going
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: to be a little more exciting than this.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Oh. Man, imagine you're pulling a fish in. You see
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: a shark, You're like, you just take it, Take the fish,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. But a lot of guys that they pulled
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: them in they're caught in half, you know, so you
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: can they bull shark fish down there. Now you can
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: catch bull sharks every day. They're trying to reduce the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: population because apparently it's a very high population. You know,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: bull sharks are the reason why Jaws was made. Do
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: you know the original story behind Jaws. The inspiration was
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: actually bull shark attacks in fresh water on a river
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: in New Jersey. So bull sharks are one of the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: weird sharks that can live in fresh water.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: And is this the thing nineteen sixteen.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the They caught that bull shark
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: and they killed I think two people, right, a series
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: of shark attacks. Four people were killed and one critically injured.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Instance occurred during a deadly summer heat wave and polio
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: epidemic the United States that drove thousands of people to
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: the seaside resorts in the Jersey Shore. So they think
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: it's a bull shark, it says. There's been a debate,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: but it's in fresh water.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna be.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: A fortieth anniversary Jaws screening in that bay and people
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: sat in the water to watch them.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Also natural selection, but they've they've found bull sharks as
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: far north as Illinois. Oh yeah, up the river, Syce. Yeah,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: they make their way up the river. That's scary, that's crazy.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: It's the most aggressive shark and they found them in
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: fresh water. I think that dude that used to have
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: that show River Monsters. You remember that guy?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember the show.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The guy was just caught fish all the time,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: like the craziest redneck. No, it wasn't a redneck, wasn't.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: It was actually like an educated guy with a foreign accent.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Where was he from?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: River Monsters?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: I remember the show. I just don't. I don't know
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: if I ever watched it. I just remember seeing it.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: What's it many?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: From the the River Monsters guy, the guy with the
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: gray hair. He was a fisherman, Jeremy Wade, that's his day.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Where's he from? He's not from America? Right, British?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: There you go, yeah, British biologists. I think he did
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: an episode on the bull sharks. I think there was
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: one of those where they were trying to catch them
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: in fresh water. They realized, like these things they go
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: way up the rivers, yeah, way, and they can live
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: in fresh water, unlike all the regular sharks. I think
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: maybe some of them can, but I think most of
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: them have to be in saltwater, like Great Whites stuff
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: like that. They do.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've tagged great whites and they they'll go
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: around the world. I mean you think they would have
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: They thought, you know, historically that they stayed in certain
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: temperature of waters and certain migrating patterns.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: But there they found.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Them all over.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my daughter got really into megla Don's at one
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: point in time, so we really started like researching Mega
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: don She hunting. No, not really, you know what I
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: mean for the oh no, we just got one online.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: But you you start watching doc documentaries on Megladon's and
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: you know, and then there's the people that think that
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: megadons might still be out there, and you're like, okay,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: probably not. But either way, like the fact that that
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: thing actually exists, shark the size of a whale. They're
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: fucking everything up. Like you, you wouldn't be surfing if
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: there was megadons?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Would you probably still would? I mean, I mean I don't,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's not a bad way
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: to die. I guess you.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Have to get you'll suffocate and get digested.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, out they're doing something you love. Yeah, that's a
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: good story.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I guess for other people.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be pretty quick. You know what's worse.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: What's worse you live this crazy long life and you're
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: in bed for the last five to seven years of
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: your life, and you're hurting and you're like dealing with
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: cancer or this that or just bam, get it by
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: a shark. I don't know.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I think kind of yeah, I could see it, I guess.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: But still the instant to stay alive is so strong. Yeah,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: when I'm one hundred years old and in my bed,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe they're gonna have a new drug. They're
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: gonna bring me back to life. Yeah, they probably will
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: be able to do that too. It's just gonna get
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: real weird if they really can take old people, Like
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: I was watching this video where they were talking about
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: human skin cells. At least in a lab, they've been
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: able to take human skin cells and take like sixty
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: year old skin cells and make them twenty again.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be really weird. Well, I just don't here.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I'm all about living the best version
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: of your life, being as healthy as you can. Maybe
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: not for like that. Whatever you get like being optimal,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: but isn't. Kind of the most beautiful thing about life
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: is that it is finite and that it's like people
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna live forever. It's like, I don't know
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: if I want to live forever.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, there's something to that. Man.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: Have you seen this trailer for this movie called White
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: Whale Fall? Actually, Josh Brolin happens to be mentioned him.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: What happens eating by a whale?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: No way, It's in the trailer, so it's not a spoiler,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: and it's about him surviving.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Is it real?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: I don't believe through that thing guys done in the
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: whale's mouth.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: Oh scuba diving, Oh Jesus. And then the rest of
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: the movie is about getting out, getting out?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: I guess, well, how long does he stay inside the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: whale's body?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Real? I bet he's eighty.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Five to ninety five minutes inside with his scuba tank
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: inside the whales body. This is bananas. Oh my god,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: it just keeps swallowing it.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what the movie is.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: Oh god, damn, it.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Is that real?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: This is the real?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: I saw the trailer recently and I was just think
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: of it talking about it.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: It might be awesome or the dumbest movie that's ever
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: been made. I can't decide.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. What do you do if you
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: have a knife? Do you try to carve your way
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: out of the whale?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have a knife.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but how much time would it take you to
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: carve your way out of a whale?
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Forever? You're gonna run out of air if you have
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: the scuba tank and you have a knife, do you
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: really think you can get through a whale?
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: And how much fish?
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: But it's not a it's a fucking bus.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: You're very motivated, that's true. It's just true. But you
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: got to get through rib cages. I don't know if
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: that's a thick enough plot to have a whole movement.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: The script, Scott, this is the big light, this is it,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: this is our jaws.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Oh god, the business sometimes just that's so bad. How
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: long would it take you to carve your way out
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: of a whale?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: Well, he puts sperm whale and he's got less than
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: an hour of oxygen.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Oh so that's enough time.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's enough time.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: You don't got a call through eighty feet.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: I think if you kept cutting it up it might
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: throw up. If you kept cutting the inside of his tongue,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: just kept slashing at all that he might just throw
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: you out. Yeah, he might recognize there's something wrong, like
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: you would like if something was if you put something
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: in your mouth and storty biting your tongue and be
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: like you try to get rid of it. I would
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: imagine the whale would do that too. It I just
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: start sucking up his tongue.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Also to keep you from getting digested, just stab him
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: and just pull yourself forward and stab him again.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Have an exit plan. You've got a plan.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna cut your way out. I just think
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: there's too much bone. I don't think you're gonna make
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: through it through that bone unless you go through. I
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: don't even know where you would go, like the neck.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: I could figure out how to get through on an elk.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: I will go that way. I would go where the
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: holes are. There's holes back here, where the you know,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: the guts are, and there's holes up here, you know,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: like where you shoo him.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: If you're shooting a frontal, they're not going to cast
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: you in this movie. There Like he's getting out too quick.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm getting out quick. I think I'm
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: dying of no air. I don't think I'm gonna make it.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: Let's look at the naty of a sperm whale.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Here, you're gonna be okay, you see, I want to
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: get out through the neck. See right there, that's where
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: I want to get out. But all that stuff there
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: if you yeah, but you're not. It's gonna take too
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: long for you to get through all those.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: You go right to the sphincter and just like you know, open.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just convince him to digest quickly. No, there's
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: too much traveling. Okay, you're gonna want to You're gonna
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: want to go through where you came in.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: You don't want to go through the intestines.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: And also you're dealing with acids. They're gonna burn. And
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: I think you want to cut through the front. So
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: I think, as he's swallowing you, you got to dig
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: in and you got to make your way through the
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: bottom of his jaw. You gotta start cutting and maybe
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: you get out.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: But what's greenlit this movie? We need to find out?
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some crazy person. Maybe it's really good. Josh Brolin's
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: ind it's probably kills.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: Actually, it's pretty popular, well, like New York Times best
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: selling novel. I'm like, oh, it sounds like a pretty
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: good story.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: They made a movie out of it.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: There was a whale they spotted fairly recently that had
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: a harpoon in it from the eighteen hundreds. Oh wow, Yeah,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: that's a lie. Yeah, it was alive and this harpoon
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: embedded in it. Soon you can find that story. That's
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: a wild might be some Instagram horseshit. Oh yeah, fairly recently.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: I remember they found this whale and they recognized that
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: the harpoon was from the eighteen hundreds.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: Two thousand and seven, Native Alaskan whalers near Barrow, Alaska,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: made a remarkable discovery of fifty foot bowhead whale found
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: with a metal fragment of a late nineteenth century bomb
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: lance an explosive harpoon embedded in its neck. The artifact
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: traced to New Bedford, Massachusetts. The explosive harpoon was patented
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: in eighteen seventy nine and manufactured in the late eighteen eighties,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: so the whales aged by survival. Surviving the initial attack,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: whale lived for over a century with the metal tip
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: lodge safely in its neck thick blubber. The extraordinary survival
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: story help biologists prove that bowhead whales can live for
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: one hundred to over two hundred years.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: Get shot near Massachusetts or did they travel to Alaska
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: with that?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. Well, they were probably whaling in
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Massachusetts a lot, so they probably like made good tech
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: like East Coast manufacturing, and then they probably shipped it
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: off to Alaska. There's not as many people up there,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: so they probably didn't have as much manufacturing. So I
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: imagine they.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: In the eighteen seventies and they shipped.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they would ship things by train. They would ship
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: things by training boats into the eighties. Yeah, I mean
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: they always had that. They always had trade. You know,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: you could always ship things. Not easy, but if you
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: wanted to get guns, like say if there was you know,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: if the army was in California in the eighteen hundreds,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: they had to get guns, and they would get the
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: guns shipped to them. They'd either carry the guns with
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: them as they made their way across the country or
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: they can get them shipped to them.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to I shot a movie in Iceland.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: Oh god, twenty it feels like twenty years I think
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: it was twenty years ago.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: What was it the movie?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was called Flags of Our Fathers and it
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: was also World War two, and you know the whaling
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: sort of trade was it's it's not it wasn't looked at,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: uh in the same way I think Americans like look
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: at whaling like my god, how dare you? They look
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: at its normal? Yeah, it's it was really interesting to
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: stay alive. Yeah, and it's like where do you draw
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: the line. It's everyone's got this, like, oh, you can't
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: kill this, but I can have my.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: Whaling is on the menu because you need to stay alive,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: like especially way back in the day. Yeah, there was
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: not a lot of resources in Iceland. You know, they
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: have a fermented shark dish in Iceland that it's very
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: popular that Bordaine told me was the single most fucking
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: disgusting thing he's ever eaten. Really, and it's a delicacy.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Like they all love it, this fermented shark thing.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: That that whale is a interesting question kind of like
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: what I asked. It was even older. There's like another
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: problem is that that device would have been used up
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: by eighteen ninety, it says because they were very popular. Oh, no,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: how specifically it would have gotten in that whale.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: Interesting says, what you don't know is if some Yankee
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: whaler had a harpoon made in eighteen thirty, traded it
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: to an Inuit, and then the Inuit or his offspring
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: used it forty years later. But because the bomb lance
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: was patented and stocks were used up quickly, box do
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Dose and his colleagues identified a narrow window which they
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: believe the whale was shot somewhere between eighteen eighty five
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: and eighteen ninety five. Biologists in Alaska will now try
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: to verify the estimate by examining the lens of the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: whale's eyes. Whoa whales generally become cloudy. Their eyes become
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: cloudy as they age. Found only in Arctic waters. The
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: Bowhead was in danger of being hunted to extinction at
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: the turn of the century, but bounced back after demand
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: for whale born whalebone corsets plummeted. Holy shit, dude, that
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: was it. Whalebone corsets were killing all the Imagine the whales.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: They're like, why are they killing us? Are they eating us?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: No, these chicks they just want to suck their waist
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: in tight guys think that's what. No, No, they can't
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: be serious, right, that's what they made them out of.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so it had like spines from the whale bones.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: What so that's what it looked like, like a core
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: they turned into like almost like a like strap whalebone.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: That's whalebone.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: A strange what.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Imagine having to figure that out.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they just use wood.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: Steel boning for synthetic whalebone.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: They probably ate the whales and then they were like, oh, look,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: let's excess bone we can use.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess they probably just had the bone and
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: realized it was kind of flexible.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: Whale bones weren't even made from bone at all.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: I went to U, I went to my buddy's cattle
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: processing plant in California, and they use everything, I mean everything.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: They use the part of the heart I believe. Oh
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: it's an organ I can't remember. They use it in
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: medical operations. They pull it out and then they send
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: it on ice. They use it for some patching of
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: the heart thing, I mean down to everything, hoofs everything. Wow.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: And it's actually like fascinating to scene. You're like, oh,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: this is super efficient. This uses for a lot of
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: different applications for hide, for all kinds of stuff, which
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: makes sense because it's all valuable. Why would you not
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: use it all?
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: And it makes people feel better if you know that
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: the whale is being completely harvested, like every completely everything
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: is used. Yep, that's awesome. Yeah, I mean if you
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: have a connection, that's really the best way to get food,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: if you have a connection with a really good branch
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: and they're real ethical and it's all grass fed meat.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Animals are raised on a pasture like they're supposed to.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Even the way they slaughtered him at this place was
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: super It was really gentle, and that was the whole thing.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: It's like we're taking a soul, but this is part
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: of life, right, Life eats life. And the way they
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: did it was really painless and I was just boom boom,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: and then it was it was.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: No country for old men style.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Put oh the air bullet the apparently that just shuts
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: the lights off, shuts the lights off quick, and then
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: they bleed him out.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: How badass was that motherfucker in that movie? Javier Javier
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: was so good that it might be one of the
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: single best performances I've ever seen in a movie, because
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: you believed him. You believed him when he's making that
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: dude flip that quarter. You know he's I mean, he
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: gives you the chills. Oh yeah, that hair that weird haircut.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: Weird haircut. But it's just the commitment to being a psycho.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: Like that. Dude's got some darkness in his eyes that much. Yeah,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: look at that weird haircut. Crazy haircut. God, Well, Javier
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: is a bad motherfucker dude. His there's something about his
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: bad guys that are like this Cape Fear role that
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: he's in.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: Now, I haven't seen it.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it either, but the fucking trailer may
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: be uncomfortable just seeing him in the trailer. Yeah, he's
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: a good creep. He plays a real good psycho. You know,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: there's some dudes where you're like, I believe it, and
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: some guys you're like, come on, man, you're a nice guy.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: Also, the original cap Fear, I mean Robert de Niro
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: and the original Cape Fear.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: Man, you've played bad guys. Do you have a problem
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: playing bad guys? Is it hard for you to get
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: into it?
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: What is more challenging for you, like to play a
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: bad guy or to play like the World War two thing,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: you got to play someone from a different era, which
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: I would imagine has its own challenges. But is it
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: hard for you because see, you're so nice? Do you
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: would do you have a hard time when you play
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: bad guys?
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I got to do it for Guy Richie, which
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: was like you know, the ultimate right rules, Yeah, in
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Wrath of Man, and it was actually kind of liberating,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: kind of fun. You could sort of do things you're
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: not supposed to. You know, you could like act out
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: on your impulses a little bit. Uh, you know, you
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: think of something fucked up in your head and you're like,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: why why did I think that I'm not gonna punch
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: that person in the face?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Why did I think that?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: You kind of like, you know, to like a lesser extent,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: you obviously aren't doing everything, but you you could kind
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: of like revel in your own like messed up thinking
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: m M. But I don't I don't love doing it,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: to be honest. I think I think I want to
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: do it very selectively, Like I mean, for guy ritchie'll
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: do anything right. He's I think he's one of the best,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: best best ever look at you. Yeah, And so you
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: know I was I had to kill a kid there,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: and I was I had to just do the dirty
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: work and get it done.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: Even look evil there like something something's different. Yeah, your face,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: doesn't it look like you you look evil?
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: You look like genuinely evil. Yeah, yeah, I was loose.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: I was tying up blues ends.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: There is it when you're doing that, when you're playing
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: an evil guy? Are you thinking evil a little?
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: I'm look. I mean, at the end of the day,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: it's a job. I treat it as a job. I'm
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: not one of these crazy psychos that like let things
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: become distorted in your mind.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: When you pretend you're Abraham Lincoln for six months.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean I believe him day like
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: I believe so I don't know. Maybe you know, maybe
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: I you know, if you want to be the best,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: I think it comes with the price, and that price.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: Sanity, Yeah, a little bit of sanity. You got to
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: give it up.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: My dad was never like that. He was like, it's
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: a job, Like, go to work, do the best you can,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: put in the reps, make sure you're you know your ship,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: and you come prepare and you have some something interesting.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: But I can leave it at the door man. Yeah,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: you know, you see people like their minds get twisted
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: and and we deal and with artists, right, artists are
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: it can be special.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Sometimes, yeah, and they take themselves very seriously. Yeah, But
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: there's also a certain amount of you have to be
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: thinking about how that character would think, right if you're
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: really gonna pull it off, and you really did pull
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: it off, so you had to be having some thoughts.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have some I would love to
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: talk to. I was like, it was a it was
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: a greedy role, and I was like, I kind of
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: let the greed take over, which is a little which
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: is a little scary.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: So do you have to think like a greedy guy
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: before the like like when you're getting ready for a scene,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: like how do you get your head in that space?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? A lot of a lot of manifesting sort of
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: those thoughts and emotions like what.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: Fucking do I'm gonna take whatever the fuck I want
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: right now? You know, so you sort of you know you.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: You play that, but then you gotta let it go
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: like the end of the day. Man, you gotta let
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: it go, right, you gotta be like cool, that was
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: that was that thing, and then it's gotta be slippery, right,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: I think it can be if you don't have if
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: you value this career too preciously and you don't realize, hey,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: we're telling stories. It's fun. I'm so grateful I've gotten
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: to do it. But it doesn't define me. It might
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: have made me, but it's not gonna break me. I
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: have other interests and other things, and I know there's
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: other important shit out there that I could do in
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: this life. I think you have to have that level
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: of thinking because if you think this is everything, and
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: I mean it's too extreme. It's like extreme we're talking
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: about before it can get to it's not healthy.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: M Well, a lot of people have problems after roles
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: are done. Like apparently Jim Carrey really struggled after he
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: played Andy Kaufman because yeah, yeah, I'd like to talk
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: to him about that, because it seems like he got
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: from all accounts the people that were with him on
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: the film, like he got so into that character, but
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: he was like being Andy Kaufman all the time.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we heard a lot of counts like it was.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: It was like they were like, dude, you gotta chill,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta chill. I mean, I've worked with
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: some that are that have taken it to the level.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they said Jared Leto did that when he was
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: playing the Joker. The people like, hey man, stop stop
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: sending me dead birds.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Rats your dead rats? Uh chi la boof and yeah
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: laboof lea boov.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I always get corrected.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: Sorry, but yeah, there's a lot of those guys. They
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: go into that rabbit hole and they can't crawl out.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: It's just uh, I think, just having Also, it's like
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: frontal cortex being defined rightly, you get famous too early
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: when you did you know, I was worked as a valet,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: I worked as a bar bag. I freaking did all
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: these shitty jobs that you know you kind of like, oh, no,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: I understand like how the real world operates. You get
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: famous too early, you get stunted in your growth. And
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: I truly believe that. I think so too, And I
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: think it's a real crime. When they do it to
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: little kids, it's a one hundred percent They never make
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: it out normal.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: No, I never met one.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: I met Leo Leo Leo made it out.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a child actor, that's right.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: He had good people around him, he had you know,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: he's disciplined and he.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a good sense of the world.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, but he always has like twenty year
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: old girlfriends. He's happy. I don't understand, Like, what do
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: they even talk about? But at the end of the day,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: very few. Well he did, really, he really was famous.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: You're pretty young though, Yeah. Really he might be the
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: only one. But I mean, I guess Jodi Foster, she
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: seems pretty put together. She doesn't seem like she's lost
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: her fucking marbles. But then you see the Britney Spears
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: of the world and these other people, and you go, oh, man,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: I don't think that was really good for them. You know. Yeah,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: there's I think also Corey Feldman. You see these people
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: that were like huge movie stars and they're young, and
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: as they're getting older, it's like, I don't think they're
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: doing good.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, think their heads.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: All fucked up. Yeah.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Well, when you place too much value on that too,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: It goes away.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where's your identity?
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: I had Macaulay Culkin in here, and he was very interesting,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: very nice guy, like very smart guy, interesting guy. But
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: he struggles. You know, it's like he realizes he was
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: sort of robbed of a normal childhood. Yeah, became famous
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: as a little kid man home alone. He was little.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad, I mean kudos to my dad because
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: he he did a really good job of protecting us
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: from that and very private. We didn't live in La,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: didn't live you know. We we lived in Carmel. It
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: was a very you know, as normal as it could be.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: But in the sense that he was like, no, that's
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: you know, you just you need to be a normous
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: human child and learn how the world works.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: Carmel's beautiful, man, it is a nice place to grow up.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, they say, newly wet and nearly dead.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: Right, that's what it is. People get married there and
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: then they fucking go there to die. Yeah, it's so true.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: It's a little slow for me, but it's beautiful. Yeah,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: I do, I do appreciate it.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: But they have annoying homeowners associations.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, come on that you were at a dag
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: and you you didn't know what you were supposed to do.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: This is off white, this is not white. Your fence
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: is the wrong color.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can get a life.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: Old people love to control their their neighborhood. They get
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: horrible on those homeowners associations. Old people who are really
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: into controlling the neighborhood.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: Like, ooh, I'm like so bored with that story. I'm like, God,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: can you just be different. Can you surprise me with
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: something else? You know?
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and old people like to live around other old
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: people too, makes them feel comfortable. They don't want to
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: be around parties. Yeah, so that's why Carmel like calls
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: out to them. If you keep the real estate price high, great,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: now you got old people living around old people.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the most fun. They're the most fun. They're the
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: most fun. Yeah, they're the most entitled, the most they
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: think they could tell you the most what to do
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: because they used to telling everybody what to do. But
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: still Carmel, fucking beautiful, beautiful part of the country. Yeah,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: that coast, oh my god. And also sharks out there,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of great whites, they're all over the place
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: up there. Yeah. Yeah, but it's a California, man, is
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful places on earth. It has
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: so much variation. There's something. You got deserts, you got
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: the beach, you got the mountains, we got everything all
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: in this one beautiful state. Yeah.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: Everyone was I mean, even in the development of our country,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: I was like everyone was going out west because it
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: was so prestigious, Oh the gold Rush and getting out west.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: And then California really La. It was the movie industry
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: and that's really what we made.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: It's kind of sad now because it's they've completely driven
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: it out.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, barely have TV shows, barely barely.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: It's brutal, it's brutal.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: Do you still live there? No, you live out here now?
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of I tell people I live on
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: the road because that's essentially where I am. You know,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: I was, I was Atlanta, I was here, I was there,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: I was in Italy making a movie.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: Well that's the thing about film, right, like they're never
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: It's how many films get filmed in Los Angeles these days.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: It's not done even beneficial to live there.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: I've never I don't think I've ever worked on Maybe
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: I've worked on one film, but it was for a
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: week and it was we shot the rest of it
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: somewhere else.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they make it so hard for people now. It's
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: so stupid.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough, it's rough. It's it's a sad because, uh,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: film is you know, inherently, like Hollywood is inherently something
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: that we've produced out of California, out of America, and
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: it's like to see that just get completely blown up
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: an industry.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: Oh do you have friends still live back there?
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, tons of California friends. And
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I look, I was never I don't have
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of industry friends I had. I do have some,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: but actors like sometimes aren't my people.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: They're just not.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: I just I don't know, like the I don't want
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: to intellectualize about it. I don't want to talk about acting,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's like it's
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: like cool, it's just something I do, but it doesn't
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: define me. You know.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: Some of them are just they're so self important. Yeah,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: and it's you know, you're it's not even almost not
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: their fault almost because they're getting their asses kissed all
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: the time, and they're on sets and people are trying
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: to get them bagels and coffee, and everyone's always ca
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: to them, so they start feeling like they deserve that
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: from the world. Yeah, it just gets real weird.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: It gets weird. There's a lot of deep insecurity in
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: that industry, right, it's masked by masked by like false security. Right,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: Like it's like I'm the man, I'm tougher, I'm this thing.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: You build this ego up and you're like, yeah, dude,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: like we're just doing the job here. Can you get
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: to set and shut the fuck up.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: It's just the attention that you get. You know, you
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: get so much attention from the world that you start
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: thinking you're important, and you know, it's natural, natural for
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: human beings, but especially even more natural for people that
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: pretend to be someone else for a living.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: No, and like some of the accountability man in the
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: industry is unbelievable. You know, I just worked with somebody
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: that I think was just without saying any names, but
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: you know, just maybe you know, people just get like
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: too famous or too long, but they think the world
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: owes them something, and then and it comes to like
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: doing the right thing. You're like, dude, you could just
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: it's black and white, do the right thing. Don't be
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: a piece of shit. You you can't do that. That's
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: unacceptable behavior. And they're like, fuck that I can do
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: and you're just like, what, dude, what are.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: You talking about?
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: Exactly? You could?
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: You could say a name and then we'll edit it out.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: I want to do that.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I just you know, we started working on
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: a on a film with with a director, and they decided,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: you know, after we had spent a bunch of money,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: that they just didn't feel like they wanted to work
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: with this other person and uh didn't want to do
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: the do the job, do the thing. And so I
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, well you need to pay that money
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: back now to that person who invested in you. And
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: they're like, I don't need to do that. And it's like, well, uh,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: yeah you do, yeah, you do, that's the right thing
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: So they decided they didn't want to work with another person.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't want to work with like another person
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: after we like started pre production on the film.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: So they're trying to get the person kicked off the
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: sho the movie or they just left and they just there.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: It was their their directory, of their story, their thing.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: It was just like, bro, you took money from somebody.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: That's also a good way to get sued. That seems
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: like person can get sued pretty easy for that.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's just it's like it's just the bigger
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: The bigger thing is just I've seen some behavior in
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: this business that is shocking that would not go in
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: other industries. But for some reason, because because the right Yeah.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: You're like what, there's also the thing, there's a thing
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: that some people want to be a star so they
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: can behave like that. They want to be a star
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: soar that can order people around or just do whatever
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: the fuck they want to do and just be unpredictable
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: and wild. Like they actually enjoy that aspect of being famous.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I to be honest, I never I really didn't
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: like people people think they want to be famous. You
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: don't want to be famous, you don't want to be
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: famous rich.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, rich is better.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: Rich is better, But to be fit like that goal
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: is so twisted. It's not like I love telling stories
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: and when we're doing a creative endeavor and you move people,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: whether you make them laugh, make him cry, whatever, But
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: the whole other side of that is like just really ugly,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: and it's I think I was lucky in some ways
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: because I got to see it growing up and got
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: to see like how it's bullshit.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: Right when your dad's one of the most famous movie
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: stars of all time. Yeah, and he's just your dad. Yeah,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: you go, oh, this is bullshit. It's bullshit, yeah, completely,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: And also your dad is not like a guy who
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: gives into that stuff. Either yeah, he's not a guy
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: who worships that kind of fame, or it's not interested
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: in that at all, not at all.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: He's just put your boots on, go to work. Man.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: It happens to be in a creative endeavor which is
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: really cool and gets to use that you know, use
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: that muscle.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: But did you hesitate at all about getting into acting
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: because your dad was so famous?
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: Sure? I think I was always like I think I
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: was always like, hey, I love telling stories, I love
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: watching movies. I love this. I don't know if exactly
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ever do you like just an actor?
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, that's my but you love I
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: love the storytelling of And I was like a conduit
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: in I'm doing other things in film now, producing, and
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: I do want to direct. It'd be nice to like
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: show up with my own clothes to work. But also
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: films like directors medium. It's not really an actor's medium.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: You need actors, it's part of the deal. But the
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: making of a film goes way beyond the filming of
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: a film. You know, there's a film made in script
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: and development, there's a film made while you're shooting it.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: And there's a film made in editing.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: Have you ever directed anything before?
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: I've you know, I've done in a creative capacity where
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: I've been a producer. I've I had hand in directing,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: but not like, Hey, that's my that's my name on
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: the on the thing, and I'm super proud of it.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: I just don't find the right material to go on,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: to go out and kind of schlep around.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: Do you write?
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: No, and I I it's the backbone of the industry. Yeah,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: if you could write your own thing, yeah, I don't
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: know how I like when like the discipline to do it,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: Like for what you do is it's it's tough, you know,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: like you have the.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: Thought to paper, it's that doesn't interest you.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: It does in a sense. I just don't like sitting.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: I I am really good at collaborating and talking about
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: material and saying what about this? What if he said this?
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: What if he did is? What about this? Can we
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: go this way?
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: So I think maybe writing partner, Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: you have a writing partner, someone who you jive with
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: that's create and you guys could get together and you
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: could come up with your own idea that way you
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: have like material that it's exciting for you and you
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: could direct that because I would imagine if you're even
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: working with guys like Guy Ritchie and all these directors
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: you work with, you've got a chance to see the
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: discipline in the highest level. Like you get to see
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: those guys do it, you know, you get to see
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: how they piece it together. It must be fascinating.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: It is, and everyone has a different a different way
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: of going about it, like Guy Ritchie. Here's the thing
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: about Guy Richie. You learn the script, then you show
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: up and he's just like throws it out the window
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: and goes you say this, you do that, you do this,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: and then you're like okay. And so if you're not,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work for everybody. Some people can't handle that heat.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: I love it. I'm like, this is awesome. Let's do
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: what is it? Okay, let's go.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: So meaning he wants you to improvise, he wants you
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: to talk like a real person.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: It's not necessarily that it's improvising. It's more he's seeing
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: the movie. He's wearing multiple hats, so he's seen the
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: movie what he's already shot. And then he's like, I
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: actually don't want that scene. I want him to say
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: this and this. He kind of like is molding the
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: movie in real time, in real time.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: And then what he'll do is he'll go back to
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: his trailer. They have like this blacked out trailer, and
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: they'll watch the movie and he'll they'll they'll radio in.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: And say, hey, say it like this, or do it
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: like this, or do you know, do it one more time?
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: So he's kind of like watching the movie as us
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: as an audience member. It's really interesting.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: Is he the only one you know that does it
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: that way? Yes?
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: And then you have guys like my dad who would
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: never do that. They would, they wouldn't even They're just
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: they're like right there, just going, Okay.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: Have you heard Matt Damon's story.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: I'm which one.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: Matt Damon was working with your dad and he did
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: a take and uh and he liked it, but he
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: wanted to do it again because we do it again.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: Clint's like, no, we got it.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: He's like, but I've been fucking working forever.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: On this thing.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: I want one more go at it. He's like, we
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: got it, yeah, And.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: He probably said something like, well, if you want to
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: waste everyone's time. Sure, and then.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: That's like no, no, no, no, no, we're good. We're good, We're.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: Good, We're good.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: Oh so funny, it's so funny. Yeah, it's whatever Guy
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: Richie's process is, it works. His fucking chows. His movies
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: are some of my all time favorites, right from the beginning,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: right from Locktalk and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatched. Holy shit,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: his movies are so good and he really did such
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: a fantastic job of almost like uh, he's like the
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: benchmark for that genre of like British crime genre. Yes,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: that's him, that's that you think of British crime drama. Oh,
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: Guy Richie, Guy Richie movie. Like, there's this dude. His
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: name is Lee Murray. Lee Murray. He was a UFC fighter.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: He was famous in London in England for being like
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: a street fighter and this crazy guy who's fighting in
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: MMA at a really high level like one in the UFC,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: and then was a part of the biggest armed robbery
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: in the history of the UK. Oh yeah, this guy
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: was a full on psychoangster. Oh, full gangster. He was
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: such a gangster that he got stabbed in the heart
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: in a street fight and they made a video of
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: him hitting Mit. Six weeks later, six weeks later, he's
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: back in the gym. It's he was crazy person. I
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: got to see him fight in real life. He actually
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: knocked out a friend of mine. He got arrested for
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: this crime. Oh yeah, Oh he's still in jail. He's
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: he's still in jail. It'll be in jail for probably
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: the rest of his life. They stole an enormous amount
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: of money, and they did it like in a very
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: high tech like like like the movie Heat like that,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: crazy like they had full masks on, armored fucking body armor,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: the whole deal.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: And how much did they steal?
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: Fifty three million pounds dollars.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: The biggest I think it's the biggest armed robbery in
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: Britain's history.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: And they hurt people doing it.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: They didn't hug them, they didn't help them. I don't
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: know if he killed you. I mean, I'm just wondering,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: like if.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: The largest peacetime cash robbery in world history. Wow, so
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: it's worth ninety two million dollars fifty three million pounds
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: back then, So that was in two thousand and six,
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: So this is after he had been in the UFC.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: So I you know, I called his fight in the UFC.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: I was doing commentary back then. They left over one
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million behind one hundred and fifty million
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: pounds because they ran out of room in their transport vehicles.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, how do you think it caught? Only about
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: twenty one million pounds of the stolen cash has ever
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: been recovered, So somebody made away with more than thirty
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: million pounds.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: So he flew to Morocco.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: Murray and several associates fled to Morocco because he held
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: dual British Moroccan citizenship and Morocco did not have an
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: extradition treaty with the UK, he evaded British authorities. Moroccan
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: police arrested Murray in June of two thousand and six
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: in a shopping mall and robot following an international manhunt.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: Instead of being extradited, he was tried in and Morocco.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: After initially being sentenced to ten years, Moroccan appeals court
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: extended his sentence to twenty five years in prison for
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: his role in forming a criminal gang, kidnapped, ing, and
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: armed robbery. So like, when this guy got arrested and
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: when everyone's your story everybody was saying that Guy's gotta
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: be a Guy Ritchie movie. Yeah, like that's that's how
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: much Guy Ritchie has like locked down that genre. And
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: I think there was some talk. Is there talk about
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: Guy Ritchie doing a movie on the Lee Murray heist?
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: Something came out and shit Chasing Lightning?
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: He came out.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: He didn't wake that, but something came out. It's like
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: a mini series about it.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: Oh about the heist? But has Guy Richie been connected
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: to a movie about it? Because I know a bunch
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: of people were talking about it, saying like it has
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: to be a Guy Ritchie movie, like if you're going
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: to really capture who this guy was, he was a
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: real nut, like a real like world class fighter.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: Who would play him? Like, give me the because I
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: don't know what it looks like.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: Jason Statum could probably nail it.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, then there it is.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: He's perfect cast already.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: I mean he doesn't have the hair for it, but
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: because Lee Murray had a full head of hair, but
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: that doesn't matter.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: It's been a rumor for a long time.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: But he instead did a true crime docu series called
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: The Diamond Heist instead. This is like a similar story,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: but it's not the same story at all.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, the story itself is so bananas. It's just
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: the fact that this guy was his world class MMA
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: fighter who was also a robber, like a high level banklet.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't steal like ninety million dollars without.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: Do they have footage of that robbery? Is there video
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: footage of it? I feel like they's security footage of it,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: and they look nuts. Well, I mean it looks like
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: a movie, like you know, they it might be fucking
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: masks on everything, the whole deal. It's just that when
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: you think about that kind of a guy and that
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: kind of a story, I mean, that is right up
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: guy Richie's Alley, he's like that show Mobland.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: God good, it's good.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: It's so good.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: It's good.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: It's so good. It's so like it's like a movie
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: that's like seven hours long, or however many episodes there are.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: It's great. It really is great.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: Who is he your face?
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: Who's do you have a favorite guy that you've worked with?
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: He's he's got to be up. I mean he's yeah,
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: if him, I gotta you know, I gotta work with
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: Oliver Stone.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome, which is like, you know, like sitting
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: with the Devil likenic Man.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: Uh, George Tillman Junior is a great director. I don't
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: know if you remember that movie Men of Honor, Yes,
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: remember with Cub Gooding Junior. Sure, he's a great director.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of there.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: There's I've I've gotten to, you know, work with some
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: really cool day Air is really interesting. That guy's a
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: tough I don't know if you know his story, but
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: he was He's had a really dark pass, but he
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: was Essentially he lived on a submarine for like two years,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: like underwater. Whoa, yeah, he's I'm like, you got some screwzless.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: If you lived on a submarine for two years.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: Underwater for two years, will fuck you up for two
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: hundred years?
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just thinking about getting out. How claustrophobic
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: you could get, Like I gotta get out of this,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: get me out.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: You're squashing that part of your brain way too long. Yeah,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: I could do that for an hour. I don't even
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: know if I want. I don't even know if I
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: want to get in a submarine. After I watched the
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: Tin Can they just exploded of those people?
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was like, oh, that's not wise, dude.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: When you watch the recreations of what must have happened
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: to them, they were just liquefied instantaneously by the pressure
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: of the ocean. That'd be a good way to go,
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: maybe better than a shark quick because like that.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then people are talking about you like you're
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: an idiot, like you got in that stupid tin can.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: You're a billionaire idiot.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: Worse, I can't go down like that.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: Think about all these fucking people that would love to
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: have a just a piece of your money so they
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: could go have a margarita on your lake somewhere. Go, cad,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be great.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the bottom of the ocean.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: Tell everybody I look through a tiny window. Fuck you. Well,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: you know, I had a conversation with Cameron, and Cameron
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: went James Cameron went to the bottom of the fucking
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: ocean by himself.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: No, No, that's not there's so much wrong.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: With that, even be the bottom of the Mariana Trench, right, Like,
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: I think he's the he holds the world record for
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: like single piloted submarine vehicle the deepest depths Like.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: No, and I also I feel the same way about space.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, I'm a big Musk fan, but
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: I don't have any desire bro to go to Mars
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: or go to space. Bro, have fun, you do that. Yeah, Okay,
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: I'm all good here on this planet.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: It must be awesome to be just I would like
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: to be in Earth's orbit once, just to look down.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: I bet see, like the fourth.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: They say, you have that experience, Like all these different
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: astronauts have talked about it. It's the overview effect that
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: you when you're above Earth looking down on it. It's
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: just you're like, oh my god, we're so fragile. It's
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: all just us together. We have to stop stop all this.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: Like you have this realization of what we really are
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: and what we're really doing, and how stupid tribal conflicts.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: Are and like what world I mean, yeah, world war
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: this key. We just keep repeating the same cycle. It's sad,
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: actually it's it's it's sad because eventually it'll probably happen again,
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: a world war. I mean that's the like, if you
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: look at the math, it's kind of happening right now.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: It's like, what's going on? Man? Are we going to
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: keep doing this? I guess that's what we're doing.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: It's very disturbing when you're playing a character in a
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: period piece like that. What what do you have to
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: do in terms of like make sure your behavior being
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: like they behaved and talk like they talked? Like did
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: you have to watch film of those old people?
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you talk to a lot of people in
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: this case, this this movie you know, was about jeez,
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: the guys are you know, almost all passed away at
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: this point. But I luckily got got to meet a
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: lot of veterans because I've done twenty years of doing
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: a few war movies. So I've gotten to meet these
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: folks and talk to them and hear their stories. See
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: like sometimes the pain in their eyes when they tell
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: these stories and you realize, you realize the gravity of
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: what they're caring and what they did for the world.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: There's so many heroes in World War Two, you know,
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: so many people that did so many things that affect
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: like our way of life, I mean, and affect a
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: lot of the world's way alife. I mean, all of
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: France and most of your business speaking German because of
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: what happened, and so you care like that weight with you.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: It's it can be if it's a real if it's
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: you know, you know the person, you can watch tape
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: on him, then you get it. You get that like luxury.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: But if you don't, then you know, it's just I
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: think it's about carrying that weight and just trying to
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: be as true as you can to that. It's it
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: comes with the cost doing doing these movies, because not
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: only you go and make them, but then you go
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: and promote them and you meet these people. I met
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: one of the oldest living veterans the other night at
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: at the Washington Archives in DC, one hundred and seven
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: years old, whoa Colonel Stern, and got to hold his hand,
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: you know, and really quite clear still had it like
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, like shockingly when he spoke to me, I
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh. But you could feel that
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: generation that you could feel that what he had been
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: through and he was he was actually at the Battle
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: of the Bulge. Whoa And you're like, oh, and then
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: have him tell us like we got it right, and
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: that's what it's like, you know, like brought me to tears.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like kind of like I
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: was shook. But so moments like that it comes, you know,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: it's like, wow, this is this is a great responsibility
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: to tell this story.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: I can imagine having a conversation with one hundred and
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: seventy year old guy who's been through war, and the
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: war was what how many years ago? In nineteen forty two?
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: What is that? How many years ago is that?
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: So he would probably put HI been twenty yes, so right,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: he would have been like eighty four, Yeah, eighty.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: Four years ago, and it's still the most probably impactful
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: thing that ever happened in his life. Imagine that. Imagine
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: you're one hundred and seven years old and your life
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: is kind of defined by something that happened eighty four
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's uh, it's it's it's wild what they
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: went through a while. I mean imagine, I mean if
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: they're like, hey, pack up, Joe, like we're we're going
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: to wherever, it is like I don't know wherever we're
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: going right now, and we're gonna have to kill people.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: And imagine the information you're getting. What are you getting
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: like newspaper articles and a radio broadcast? Yeah, what do
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: you read that? Shore you met a battalion commander during
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: World War Two? Stern His name was Senator Radcliffe. What's
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: his name, Herbert Irving Stern. That's his name, so it says.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 2: A battalion commander during World War Two. Stern was awarded
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: the Silver Star Medal during the Battle of the Bulge
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: for his actions. In April nineteen forty five, while driving
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: through Germany, Stern his men discovered a concentration camp with
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: three thousand Jewish women. They liberated the camp, providing immediate
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: relief to the prisoners, and destroyed the facility.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: Wow, isn't that amazing? Like we have to celebrate these people,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: you know, Like, I.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine your overseas. You're a kid, it's nineteen
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: forty five, and you liberate a camp of three thousand
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: Jewish women that are being in prison.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: It gives me chills this thinking about it.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, man, Like, yeah, thirty five years old, thirty
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 2: four years old, you imagine we can see what that
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: guy's seeing.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if we want to. I mean,
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: that would change your whole change your whole world. Like
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: look on the world, man, I mean, but.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: You have to think that way right when you're when
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: you're playing these guys, you have to almost put yourself
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: in their head. How hard. Is that? Like, what is that?
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: Like? It just it comes with like I said, it
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: comes with a cost. You you go through an emotional journey,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: you you pay a price. You have to lend your
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: own emotion and own grief and whatever that is in
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: your life and you have to kind of relive some
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: of that. And it's it's part of you know, going
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: through what it would have been like to.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 6: See some of these atrocities, to see what it's like
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 6: to lose your best friend, right besides you to lose
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 6: people that are you know, to see a concentration camp
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 6: full of women that are you know, probably skin and bones,
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 6: and like, it's just you know.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: It makes you just so it makes me so grateful
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: for what we have and where we're at.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: It's also a human's capacity for evil. When you're faced
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: with it like that. It's it's so disturbing that people
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 2: are capable of doing things like that and that they
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: still are, that they're still to this day, right right now,
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: somewhere in the world, there's human beings committing atrocities and
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: killing people.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: I know. It's it's brutal. It's brutal to think how
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: savage we can become, like it's it's crazy because you
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: think about it, it's like, we're not far off. You
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: take water away for seventy two hours and we're dead. Yeah,
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: So how quickly do we turn savage fighting each other
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: if we don't have basic needs?
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, the civilizations are very thin veneer. Yeah, it's
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: very thin, and it's very vulnerable. And I think most
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 2: people are delusional and they're very well fed, very well
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: fed and rested, and they don't have any idea how
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: precarious this thing that we exist in is. I think
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: when you're I would imagine when you're doing a World
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: War II film or something like that, like you're forced
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: to realize, you're forced to encounter that reality of the
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: human condition that sometimes, I mean throughout history, that's kind
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: of the defining moments of our past. When you think
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: about the history of the world, really you're talking about
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: the history of war. You're talking about the history of
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: war and conquests, invasions and conquests. It's like the most
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: of what we talk about when we talk about history,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: you know, we talk about the various wars and what happened,
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: what was the result, and who was the king? And
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: who did this?
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: What was it over resources. This war was really I
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: think why it's so fascinating, why World War two is
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: still so fascinating, because there is no ambiguity between right
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: and wrong in that war. Really right. What they were
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: doing in Nazi Germany was terrifying. You know, they were
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: exterminating innocent people, and we came together as a world
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: you know, a coalition and fought that evil. And that
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: is very different than a war like Vietnam, where we're
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: like why are we here or you know, you're questioning
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: what what is this just a politically motivated thing? No,
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: this was like this was to save people, and that
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: is that's very different.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we think of that as our last great war.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: That is the World War Two, in most people's eyes,
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 2: is the last just war. Yeah, you know, we think
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: it's like that's the one that needed to be done
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: because it wasn't just evil people, was evil people on meth,
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: which is really crazy when you when we I didn't
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: know that until like a decade or two ago, yea,
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: that they were all on meth. And then we had
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: Norman Ole he wrote how do I say his last name?
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 2: Or or he wrote this book Blitzed, and it's all
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: about the Blitzkrieg when they went through Luxembourg, the Netherlands
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: and Poland in like three days, and it was all myth.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: They just gave them myth.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: YEA. That was in the beginning of the war.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they had like thirty five million doses of myth.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: Nuts, man, that is nuts.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: And they gave the guys at the front of the
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: lines the most myth, the guys in the tanks, like
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: you guys get the most myth. They wounded up, just
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: messed up up, just driving for three days, killing everybody
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: they see. And then when they ran it to the
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: people in France, they were all drinking wine, so like
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: they're all chilling and how like they got just got
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: fucked up. Man.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's not that long ago.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: That's what's really scary.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: It is, it's super scary. Also, what was crazy about
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: this movie? And you know, I learned something new every
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: time I do a war movie. I didn't realize there
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: were German Americans living in America, like living, had a
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: life here, and when the war kicked off, there was
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of them that went back to Germany and
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: fought for Germany. WHOA, can you imagine that? How many
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: like like thousands whoa that went back and like you know,
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: and then they were spies and they were they a
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: lot of them spoke English, a lot of had the
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: American culture, you know, they understood and they became like spies.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: And it was like, can you imagine doing that? Fuck?
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, imagine giving up on America to go back
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: to fight for Germany? What like, hey, hey, hey settled down,
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: hold on, hold the fun. Don't you know the spot
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: is better? You should be fighting for this, you fucking dumbass.
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the people that are willing to do that, that's
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: a that's a different kind of brainwashing.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, it makes me think about
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: some of the brainwashing we have nowadays, Like and you
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: kind of think like, oh, like you know, there's a
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: lot of conspiracy theory stuff and I'm not I'm not
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: a lot, but I do see And we were talking
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: about it today. It's like how strong is the government
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: to like brainwash you know, the mk ultra stuff, like
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: the stuff where it's like you get like a patsy
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: or get someone to do something that you want them
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: to do, kill somebody whatever. Yeah, that's like really terrifying.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: I think you are your own thoughts and emotions.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: But also, if you find someone who's vulnerable, you can
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: coax them slowly but surely into becoming a different person.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: You give them a purpose, you give them a direction.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: You can I mean, they've done it before. It's not
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: they didn't stop doing it in the nineteen sixties. That
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: guy who tried to shoot Trump, he was probably a
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: product of that, if I had I guess by some organization.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's the American intelligence agencies, but someone
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: talked that young kid into getting on that roof and
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: trying to shoot Trump. Someone, you know, someone gave him direction.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: Someone just his background is too squeaky clean. After it's over,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 2: they professionally scrubbed his apartment. His apartment was professionally scrubbed.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: There was no silverware in his apartment when they went
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: to examine it. All his hard drives are gone, all
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: his computers were gone. He had more than one cell phone,
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 2: which is very odd for a twenty year old kid,
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: and had no social media profile. The whole thing was fucked.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: Can you explain to me the theory is going on
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: with like the Charlie Kirk of it all, Because I
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: know there's I've heard a lot of like stuff and
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of smart people that I like respect to, Like,
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: there's something going on with that that we don't know
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: the full.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: Well, there's something going on with the guy being able
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: to climb on top of that roof with a gun
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: and dismantle it, put it back together again, and then
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: dismantle it again and put it back together it again.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: Like the whole thing makes no sense. They think they
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: have footage of him in a backpack, so, but a
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: backpack doesn't carry a gun. And so the excuse was, oh,
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: he dismantled the gun then reconnected it. Well, that doesn't fly.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: So the problem with that is anybody who knows anything
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: about guns knows that you take a scope off a gun,
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: you take the barrel off the gun, you take the
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 2: stock off the gun, you take you gotta put it
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 2: all back together again. You might not be on anymore.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to You're gonna have to site
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 2: that gun in, right, And if you can site that
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: gun in, you're gonna want to have targets to practice on.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: You're not just gonna take one hundred and forty yard
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: shot or whatever it was where he shot Charlie Kirk,
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: not knowing if your sight is on. Because I was
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 2: hunting once and I fell with my rifle and we
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 2: went back to the range to test it and it
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: was off on a So when you're shooting on a block,
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: so you're not moving at all, all you're doing is
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: pulling the try so it's just to make sure that
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 2: the gun is on. It was off by six inches
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: at one hundred yards, just by moving from a fall,
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: you know, And so you have to check that, and
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: then you have to cite the gun back in. You
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 2: take a you just take the scope off and then
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: you put it back on and screw it back together again.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: There's no guarantee that that thing's gonna be accurate. And
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 2: this kiss not like a marksman, not like he's got
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: a ton of experience shooting people and shooting at a distance.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 2: The whole thing is, it's gross. The whole thing sounds gross.
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: The text messages between him and his boyfriend or whatever
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: it is, where you know he's saying how he did
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 2: it or he's gonna do it, they seem like AI
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: made them. It seems crazy. And then there's also the
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: fact that there was footage of him in a yogurt shop.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: Is that verified the footage that was in a yogurt
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: shop that was like twenty minutes later. The guy's just
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: chilling at some fucking frozen yogurt store. That seems weird.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: What about this stuff with like the the people that
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: were like right around the shooting and stuff, and like,
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: is there like some weird.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: Wow, there's a lot of people that think that that
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: someone some of them were signaling for the shot to
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: happen at a certain time. That's a lot of it
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: seems like speculation to me, because you know, people move
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: around all the time, people are in the crowd. If
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 2: I was standing there and I went like this and
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: at that moment someone got shot, okay them yeah? Or
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: if you look at your watch at a certain point
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 2: that and that person gets shot, like a lot of
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: movements going on, you could attribute that movement to someone's signaling.
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 2: To me, what's weird is the actual wound itself. So
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 2: a thirty odd six, well it does it's not a
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: big enough hole. Thirty odd six is a big rifle round,
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: and to shoot a guy in the neck with a
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 2: thirty odd six, you would expect, first of all, you'd
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 2: expect an exit wound, and there's no exit wound. It
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: just goes in and it looks like a smaller hole.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look like the kind of hole that I
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 2: would expect from a large rifle round. I would expect
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 2: it to just blow a giant chunk of his neck
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: right off. That's a that's a round that you shoot
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: an elk with. It's a big round. And then there's
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: a video footage of him from the back and it
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't look like there's an exit. There's no exit, so
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: it just goes in his neck and stops it.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 3: Details about him being a dairy queen are very weird.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 5: It seems like he was at a dairy queen, but
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 5: they don't know which one and the one they thought
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 5: he was that closed down weirdly a couple of weeks afterwards.
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, but he was. There is footage of him at
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: a dairy queen.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 5: Just which one it was and when it was Okay.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: Either way, After you shoot Charlie Kirk, do you really
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: go to a fucking Derek queen?
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 3: Or they're saying too.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: Right before you go to Charlie, give them blizzards, you
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 2: know them blizzards go out of caffeine in it. I
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: think it's also weird that we haven't heard him talk.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 2: He hasn't taken the stand. There's discrepancies between whether or
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: not his family turned him in, or whether or not
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 2: he said he confessed to his family. You know, I
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 2: don't know what they're saying now.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 5: He isn't even There is an update as of June
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 5: twelfth and a hearing, and this article says there hasn't
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 5: been a plea entered yet.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Prosecutors intend to seek the death penalty if
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: Robinson is convicted. He has not yet entered a plee.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 2: How is how that happened in September? How was he
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: not yet entered a plee?
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: Is that like this? They're going over details about keep
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: you in limbo?
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 5: The prosecution going on public talking about the the bullet
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 5: fragment found and defenses stand the shouldn't have done that.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 3: There's a whole back and forth about that.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: Hmmm. I don't know. I don't I don't pretend to know,
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: But it just feels like there's a lot of stuff.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, like you said, there's some bullshit where people
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: are gonna go, oh, look, and you're like, Okay, come on.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 2: Tucker, Carlson was just talking about it, and he thinks
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: that Israel killed him. He thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: And then a lot of people are saying that's ridiculous.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: And then how many people are getting paid by Israel
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 2: to run cover and how many people are just saying
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: that Israel did it without real evidence? I don't know.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 2: But he was critical of Israel, apparently in text messages
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: and saying that he was going to get out of
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 2: the Israel supporting business. I don't know what that means,
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't because apparently there was also a
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 2: long letter that he wrote to net and yaho Is
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: expressing his support for Israel. And so is that real?
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. All these days to like, nothing is
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent real. Yeah, if it's a major news
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 2: story involving anything significant, at least some of it's bullshit.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: And so we're all just sitting here wondering, did this
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: kid really shoot Charlie Kirk because of his position on
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: trans people? Is that really what we're supposed to believe?
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: He was in love with a trans man or a
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: trans woman rather, and so he shot Charlie Kirk because
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 2: of that, really do you think.
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  Speaker 1: Like a younger people though, have like a bigger distrust
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: in the media. I feel like now I feel like
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: that's it changing.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 2: So it's maybe for the best, yeah, for sure. But
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: I mean this isn't even the media, this is the government.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: You know, this is the official position. Like they paved
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 2: over the crime scene like within days afterwards. That's weird. Yeah,
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 2: but there's a lot of weird shit. Man, the Thomas
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 2: Crooks thing. They cremated him within days after he was killed.
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: You know, where's the toxic college examinations? Where's the results?
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 2: I want to know what kind of psych medication this
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: fucking kid was on, Like what was he doing? Like
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: what was happening? Why did he shoot at the president?
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 2: Why did he kill people in the crowd? Like what
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: the fuck is going on? And you know, we don't
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: ever get told. You know, this Tyler Robinson thing is
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: a weird one. Man, It's weird. Just the gun itself alone.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: I've heard varying depictions getting on that fucking roof with
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 2: a gun, going through the stairwell with a gun. He
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 2: doesn't have the gun, so did he get the gun
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 2: up there already? So they're saying it's in the backpack.
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 2: So no, it's not doesn't fit in the backpack. Well
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 2: maybe the stock, maybe the barrels in his legs. He
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 2: taped it to his pants. Fuck off, fuck off. You
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: can't put a gun back together again and make it
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: that accurate, So I don't believe that. And then he
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 2: took it apart and then jumped off the roof with
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: it and then put it back together again in the woods.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: Is that what they're saying. I don't know if that's
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: exactly what. There's some version of it, but any version
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  Speaker 2: of it with this guy under a high stress, high
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: adrenaline situations taking a party gun and putting it back
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: together again, fuck off, fuck off? Like I don't believe.
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, especially someone untrained. Yeah, like not a And.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 2: He jumped off the roof afterwards and then escaped, like okay.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 5: The thing with which one is the first shooting the
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 5: professionally scrubbed department. That's a weird detail that doesn't seem
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 5: to have accuracy.
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  Speaker 1: It says right here.
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  Speaker 2: July twenty four, twenty four House Homeland Security Committee hearing.
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  Speaker 1: Rep.
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  Speaker 2: Eli Crane said he had received information that Crook's house
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: was scrubbed, cleaned, and even silverware removed before investigative units arrived,
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: entered the article, making the allegation into record, and from
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: there professionally scrubbed and no silverware. Talking points spread through blogs, forums,
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: ex posts and podcasts. Would officials have said when Crane
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: as Pennsylvania State Commissioner Colonel Christopher Paris whether the home
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: had been extremely clean or missing silverware? Paris applied that
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 2: he had not been given any such details in his briefings.
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  Speaker 1: But see, this is why I like, do they live
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: with his parents? This is what I like. Though you're
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 1: fact checking yourself, and I think this is super important
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: because people start, no matter what we're talking about, people
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: start regurgitating their own narrative, and it's like, no, no
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: hold on, I could be wrong, and let's fact check them.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm not wrong.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 2: I don't So he was living with his his primary residence,
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 2: it says with his parents' single family home. Did he
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: have his own apartment? He had a separate apartment? It
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 2: said he didn't. But this his primary residence.
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's what you call it, but it.
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 2: Says not in his own separate apartment. Does that mean
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 2: he didn't have a separate apartment.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 5: The question did he have his own apartment or whatever?
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 5: What about the apartment?
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 2: I see, so I gave you that response. The house
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: and surrounding streets were searched and cordoned off by federal
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: agents and bomb squads after the assassination attempt, and investigators
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: reported finding bomb making materials there. Oh boy, So in
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: case it didn't work out with the gun, he had
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 2: a bomb? Did he think he was going to make
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: it off the roof? I wonder what he thought thought
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: to shoot the president and just jump away. No one's
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 2: going to notice. I think I got snipers all over
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: the place. They took that guy out the moment he
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: shot him. I wonder if someone talked him into doing
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 2: it and convinced him that they had a way to
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: get him out of there.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. See, that's the scary thing, right, Yeah, the mind control,
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: like you said, you.
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 2: Know, especially I they're giving him drugs. That's my point
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: about the Toxic College examination. So a lot of people
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: were very concerned they cremated him right away, because if
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 2: you got a hold of the Toxic College examination and
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 2: you found out that there were some drugs in there,
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: that they give people to influence them, like maybe had
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 2: an LSD in a system, Maybe he had something else
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: in some other psychiatric medications in the system that you
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: would say, well, why was he given this? You know,
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 2: is this something that we've done when we were working
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: on mind control experiments? Have we given people these things?
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: Are we still doing that? There was also metadata that
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: connected a phone from DC to his house from like
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 2: Virginia outside the FBI area where where the FBI offices are,
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: back and forth to this guy's house multiple times. Metadata
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 2: from a phone. You can't say whose phone? Who knows?
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 2: Probably nothing or don't they know. He's also in a
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 2: black Rock commercial if.
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: You want to find out whose phone that is they got,
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: Like people can find.
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 2: A house phone imagine, right, Yeah, it's all weird, it's not.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's probably a lot of people before
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: the election that wanted Trump dead. Fill in the blank
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: who you think it might be, But most likely somebody
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 2: got a kid to try to do it, and he
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 2: didn't pull it off, but he came close.
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 1: Scary man.
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 2: And then there's the real dummies who think it's staged,
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 2: which is so crazy.
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: Oh that I've heard that.
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: I was hearing that, and they let him nick his
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: ear with a bullet. What do you know how dumb
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 2: that sounds. Do you have no idea about shooting things
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: at distance? There's no way, Like it's performative. So there's
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 2: not a fucking chance in hell that you can nick
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: someone's ear with a bullet at that distance and be
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: that accurate. You can easily blow half their fucking head off, you.
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 1: Know, and and like what like they're going to take
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: that risk to bring happens kill the people behind them? Yeah,
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: because someone gets shot, right.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 2: One guy died. At least one person died, another guy
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 2: got shot really badly, and two other people I think
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: are suing now they're suing the government for negligence because
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: of that shooting. Yeah, because they're permanently injured because they
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: got shot.
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the whole the fucking the whole thing where
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 2: the lady who was ahead of the Secret Service was
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: saying that they couldn't put anybody on that roof because
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: the slope was too steep, like what and that didn't
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: even make sense because this the slope of the building
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: where the snipers were on was steeper, made no sense.
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: So it's almost like it was set up so that
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: that kid could get up on that roof and take
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: a shot.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, it seems like the powers that be
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: are pulling some strings. That's all I'm saying. Always, you
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: know what I mean that if you're not playing by
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 1: their rules, you're not kissing the ring. Kind of Hollywood's
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: the same way, you know what I mean. Hollywood is
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of that bullshit, a lot of
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 1: that like kiss the ring and things. You're like, nah,
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do that, you know. Dang, you know
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: it's like nah, you let you know. It's like like
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: you said, how bad do you want to be Batman?
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 1: How bad you want to be Batman? If it cost
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: me my soul? Maybe yeah, maybe I'm good.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 2: Well, good for you, dude, Good for you. You've you've achieved
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 2: a nice balance in your life and work relationship, and
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 2: I think that's very important, you know. And like I
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 2: always tell people like he's like the normalist guy. You're
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: like the normalist guy that it's a movie star like that.
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: I know, like every time about like I've introduce you
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 2: to people, they're like, who is he? That's Scott Eastwood?
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 2: Like what that's clean? Eas what's on.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 1: It's like, like he should, He's so normal. There's a
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 1: lot they're normal people.
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 1: There's some great ones. Oh yeah, you know they exist,
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 1: some great ones, but they're few and far between.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 2: Dude, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are fucking super normal. Yeah,
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: they're like regular guys when you talk to them, they're
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: they managed to keep their as hard as it is.
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 2: Ye keep whoever it is that's them. They they're still
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 2: that yep. So kudos to them, kudos to you, and
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 2: thanks for these vitamins. Yeah, I'm gonna take them. I'll
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 2: tell you what's up, tell me what's up. They suck,
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 2: I'm and tell you that. I'm sure they're great.
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: Uh North performance, that's what it's called.
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: And your movie.
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 2: Strike out tomorrow tomorrow, beautiful, perfect time in two hundred
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: and fifty years, celebrate the our veterans. Yes, yes, good
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 2: luck with that, Thank you, congratulations, I'm everything, all right,
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 2: all right, everybody