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Petty 2026, Hip Hop, R. Kelly & New Oldheads w/Jarri Knows #136 · The Grounded Show

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Yo.
• 0:03
  Speaker 2: So we were talking a little bit before we started recording, right,
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: and Bro, Like I'm getting to a point now, Rod
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: just can't hold it in anymore.
• 0:13
  Speaker 3: I can't, Like, I can't stop it. Bro.
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: I have to listen to R Kelly Dog. I've been
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: trying to boycott him this whole time. Like, I'm like, Bro,
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: he's you know, the stuff he did was insane, Like
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: the way the way everything went down was horrible.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Bro.
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  Speaker 3: Right, but I need to listen to I wish bro. Bro.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: He he's a musical genius. Bro. Unfortunately, you know what
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like when you really like go back and
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: listen to his lyrics, his melodies, his song concepts, It's
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: like it's so much music inside this this monster that ass. Bro.
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: It's insane, Bro.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: And not even just the music that he like did himself,
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: Like it's even the stuff he wrote, the stuff he produced,
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: Like even like earlier I was listening to the Charlie
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Wilson joined the Charlie last name Wilson.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: R Kelly wrote that like he wrote that that's R
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: Kelly bro Dog.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Come on, Bro, how could you write a song for
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: somebody else's name that's not that name?
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  Speaker 3: B for a legend that way.
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: Bro, Like this man was making hits when you wasn't
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: even born and you just said, here, let me give
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: you your best solo song.
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: Bro. Yeah, Bro, I sane.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: Do you think he gets his powers from the kids?
• 1:27
  Speaker 3: Yo?
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  Speaker 2: That reminds me of the the Dave Chappelle thing, you
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  Speaker 2: know that he rapes but he saved.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you know what I mean? Like, Yo, that's insane, bro.
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: Like you said something about it earlier, Bro, Like how
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: somebody so sinister is so fire at music? Bro?
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  Speaker 3: Like how what a what a waste?
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: Like why couldn't it just go into like and likes
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: he's like a prolific pedophile. He's not just some dude
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: that slipped up at a party one time, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: He can't forget to check that out? He was you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean?
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: That was like his jam. Like you saw the one,
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: the one story about him going to court for the
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: pedophile thing and then he like bagged a kid on
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: the way out, Oh my god, like a little fifteen
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: sixty year old girl was at the courthouse Like like
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: you're he's like the Ted Bundy of Like, Yo.
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  Speaker 3: It's just crazy.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: How like these things like shape up and the way
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: things go, Bro, because it's like you said, Bro, you
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: would think that that ability will be put into the
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: right person, you know what I'm saying, But instead it
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: would go to I don't want to.
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: Get a whole time like Hong time.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: Why would a whole time? I don't know how the
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: hog time people. Yo.
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: That's insane.
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  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, man, like honestly, Bro, like when all that
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: stuff really came out and like it was true, I'm like, dang, Bro,
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: I can't bump ourt Kelly.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: It just it felt weird, Broye. But man, like so
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: many hits, so so much of.
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  Speaker 3: Like the Yo.
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  Speaker 2: The first piece of music I ever bought, Bro was
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: a cassette for ten cents. It was the Space Jam
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: cassette and it had I Believe I Can Fly on
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: one side and then the Space Jam song on the
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: other side. Bro that I believe I could fly dog
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: as I was like seven or eight, Bro, that shit
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  Speaker 2: changed my life.
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: Bro's I believe that I could fly?
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: Though it's a timeless piece of art like that that
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: literally it's a perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Song, literally, Bro like that even like like the energy
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: in it, the frequency is saying, Bro, like you cannot
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: help but feel inspired. That's the same way I felt
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: when the World's Greatest came out. Bro, When the World's
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: Greatest came out, I was in middle school. We'll be
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: on the bus, all of us singing our hearts out, Bro,
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  Speaker 2: Like we felt like the goats in that moment.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of the thing that's missing from music right now.
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: It's positive affirmations. Yeah, prove affirmations go hard.
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  Speaker 3: Yo.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy because I have a message you earlier about
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: something I read. I mean, I heard fifty cent talk
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: about because you know he's doing his little media run
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: now because of the Diddy doc and everything. But something
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: he said, because the interviewer asked him, right, is the
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: first time in thirty years hip hop is now on
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  Speaker 2: the top ten charts. You know what I mean, something
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: you've been on for a while, Like you did a
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: video a while ago talking about how raps kind of
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: like falling off and the way the culture's going, like
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  Speaker 2: you kind of saw it like real early. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But something that fifty said was this
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: is a direct quote. Our culture loves things that have
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  Speaker 2: been damaged by the experience. And basically what he was
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: saying by that is you think about people like pop Smoke,
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: which specifically.
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: Was one of the ones that he mentioned, Like.
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  Speaker 2: There was guys that was prolific and the voices of
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: their generations, like what happened with Tupac back in the day,
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, losing somebody like Tupac
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: and hip hop was insane, bro. Losing somebody like Biggie
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: and hip Hop was insane, Like with the level of
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: rappers they was, you know, and that's happening all the
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: time still from those days. Like of course rap is
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  Speaker 2: gonna fall off when all of the top like top top,
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: top guys that really had the choke hold on the
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: streets or on the people, whatever you want to say,
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  Speaker 2: Like those guys are gone, bro.
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: Right, you can't keep losing the face to the industry
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  Speaker 1: time after time and then expecting, you know, it to
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  Speaker 1: be able to sustain itself.
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy, man, because something that people have been
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: saying lately is, you know, just the way fifty has
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: gone about the whole p Diddy thing, everybody's kind of
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: mixed about it, right, yeah, but kind of going off
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: what you're saying, bro, If you're not calling out this
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: crazy stuff that's happening that doesn't need to be happening.
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: How is everybody gonna move forward if like you let
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff keep going on, you know what
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like you have posted a video, I mean,
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: you have posted something I think on threads just talking
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: about like how people just de riding, Like it takes
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: to a point where you just left stuff slide, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And it's one of those things
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  Speaker 2: where fifties kind of like nah, bro, like just because
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: you was the topic, Zach or you was banging out
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: these hits or whatever, You're not gonna slide with the
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: way you was being, you know what I'm saying, Right,
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  Speaker 2: And it's just one of those things where like, bruh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't feel like he's doing anything wrong
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  Speaker 2: by exposing what it is, you know what I mean.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a I think the I think the conflict
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: of interest is coming from the fact that him and
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: did he do have a few. Yeah it seems pretty once,
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: but I can't even say it's one side because you know,
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: did he did he swooped up his baby mom's but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they got a few, So it's it seems like Fifty's
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  Speaker 1: doing it like for personal you know.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: And even like the feud, it's something where Fifties was
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  Speaker 2: on it because of things that Puff had done. He
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: always had called that kind of stuff out like going back,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I remember fifty put up a crazy run of a
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  Speaker 1: post on Diddy. I want to say this is probably
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  Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen maybe, Like bro, he put up like
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  Speaker 1: twelve different posts of the artist that did he has
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  Speaker 1: like just did dirty and it didn't really even like
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: man it kind of that's kind of like a testament
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  Speaker 1: to how powerful did he is in the industry because
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  Speaker 1: when fifty posted it, it didn't even hit the blogs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: blogs didn't even repost it. But I'm like, bro, this
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  Speaker 1: dude just posted to a million people all of these
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  Speaker 1: backstories of like twelve different people and how wrong did
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: he did him? And it didn't even make a wave.
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  Speaker 2: And it's crazy, brocause I don't know why I thought
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: of this, But did he did that Breakfast Club interview
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: like probably like around that time, like when Mace kind
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: of was popping back out and they were asking him
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: about stuff Mace said, and he said something like, oh,
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: Mace is a fake pastor? How y'all gonna let him
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: take shots at the God? And I'm like, even just
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: the way he said it, bro, it's like that it
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  Speaker 2: ain't rubbed me the right way, you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro,
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  Speaker 2: what you and out of one side of your mouth
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  Speaker 2: you're saying this about this man, but on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of him, you saying you the God?
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: Like, come on, bro, he a fake pastor. I'm God, Hey, what.
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  Speaker 3: B literally though, that's insane?
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  Speaker 2: But Yo, something that has come out of that doc
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: on the lighter side is people saying that twenty twenty
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: six is a year of petty bro, Like they're seeing
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: how fifty was moving at the end of the year
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  Speaker 2: on his ops, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, Yo,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six is fifty cent time we petty on everybody.
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  Speaker 1: That kind of goes back to what I was saying,
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  Speaker 1: Man more d riding fifty can't have his own wave.
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  Speaker 1: Let him be Oh fifty dude is who I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it. Ain't nobody gonna care about y'all petty little
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: grievous is because such and such on you fifty dollars,
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna put up a pose about him. Now,
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be the diddy doc. Nobody's gonna care. Bro.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: You know y'all out here trying to crash out over
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: people nobody's even heard of, you know what I mean?
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: Nah, facts, it definitely ain't nowhere near the safe scale
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: like this. This dude is putt in front and center
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: this FBI investigations, right, and you're talking about Billy that
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: owe you forty dollars.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying me too, Like all right, bro,
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  Speaker 1: come on, come on now, nah, And I'm I'm hey.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, though, I'm a I'm a I'm
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: a reformed, spiteful person. I changed. I changed, but I
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: had to get up off that like that spike thing
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: and that revenge and that that look back then, because
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: like it really is for losers, like you know what
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like if you want revenge on somebody, that
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: just means you took an l you know what I mean.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: So the facts, it's like you're gonna waste your time
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: and energy so that somebody you already don't want to
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: succeed feels your presence, right, Bro, Just leave that alone, man,
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: Leave that alone.
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just let my silence and time do all
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: the talking, yo.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: But I will say my petty side definitely shows up,
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: like especially like on TikTok, when I find these like
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: whack artists, Well, what I deem is whack because people
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: deem me whack too, So I always got to put
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: that disclaimer out there what I deem as not good music.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: I'll be seeing these videos of people on TikTok and
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: Instagram and and Yo, I be dying laughing because they be.
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: Dead serious, you know what I mean.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: But then like the artist, and you also thinks in
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: the back of your mind like, dang, bro, is somebody
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: looking at my videos and doing the same thing, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Look at them trying?
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look at this guy, who does he think he is?
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? The dog that's been like
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: a big guilty pleasure of mind. Bro.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: There's like these these dudes that be on TikTok Bro,
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: and they got this song where they'd be like, I'm
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: just not over it. Yo, I be dying every time
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: they come up on my timeline because they just do
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: like mad different type of content for it. You know
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: what I mean, but it just be that same song,
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: in the same little piece of the song. They got
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of different fits when they're doing it.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: You don't know if it's a parody or if they're
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: dead serious, you know what I mean. Like it's one
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: of those things that's like on that line, like is
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: this delusion?
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: Is this comedy? Like there's like super dedicated to it.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: So, Bro, I just be dying with all those type
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  Speaker 2: of artists that I come across.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, it's that fine line of like are they super
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: untalented or are they geniuses?
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: Literally, Bro, And it might be just a little bit
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: of both. Doug, you might've just stumbled on a gold mine,
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because even like I was
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: talking to you earlier about that show, people just do nothing.
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: It's like a big show in the UK.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: And it's funny because they kind of like mind freaked
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: the situation because they're on the show playing like whack
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: rappers and producers and DJs. But the show ended up
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: taking off, and because the show took off, the real rappers,
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: producers and dj started rocking with them and making music
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: with them because they were hot because of the show.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: But they ended up touring because of it, you know
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like they had these songs, they had
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: these situations that they were doing with other people because
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: of the show. But now they be selling out like
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: you know, concert venues, They be touring all over the UK,
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: just like with the songs that they made from the show,
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it's like, dang, that's crazy,
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: because like what if they just knew, like yo, people
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: are not gonna take a serious let's do this funny thing. Yeah,
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: and maybe they didn't know it was gonna take them
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: eventually where they wanted to go anyway, but maybe that
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: was the plan, you know what I'm saying.
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: If it was bro that's genius.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: Futting the door with a goofy thing and then once
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: people were there, sell them the real product. Yeah, that's genius.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: We live in a great time right now. Man. You
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: can take so much, just like control over your own life.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: It's a lot more work, but there's no more casting couches.
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  Speaker 3: Nah.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Fact, that's definitely like the good and the bad of it,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Because like I feel like
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: some things do need filters, you know what I mean,
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Like the thing that happens with people just in general
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: is whenever they get put in the position of being
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: that filter, like a diddy, Yeah, they become a diddy,
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like they're not just you know,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: doing stuff out of the mindset of creativity and the
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: goodness of their heart, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: They just like what can you do for me in
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: this situation? You know?
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Always an angle, literally, Bro, I thought he was just
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: trying to get money. I ain't know my butt was
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be compromised.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that was like what do my cheeks
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  Speaker 3: have to do with.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Man?
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: But yo, crazy thing man, like that kind of stuff
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  Speaker 2: that be going on. Bro, that's kind of like what's
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: killing rap? You know what I'm saying? Like you got
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: people gatekeeping, which the gatekeeper is kind of going away.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's kind of like I said,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: sometimes the filter not being there as bad because you
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: get like the worst or the worst that get through
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: that they're just viral because people are being anti establishment
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: or it's just like a moment in time or whatever,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: and it's like it's like a slippery slope. But at
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: the same time, like what could it be, Like what's
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: the thing that's like holding wrap back right now, there's
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: nothing in the top ten, like for like the first
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: time in thirty years that's from hip hop, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like is it the are we in
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: a transition stage? Is it like a recess stage or
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: is it hip hop dying?
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Like man, I think that, Uh, it's I think it's
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  Speaker 1: just so many different factors. I think one of the
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: one of the bad parts about social media and like
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: rap getting put on it is that people who don't
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: really like it or have an appreciation for rap are
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: consuming it now. So when they start try to reiterate it,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: they have no like, no like moral compass when it
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: comes to it, because they're not really doing it from
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: a like rap has always thrived because it's been like
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: an apparatus of the people, you know what I mean.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: So now it's about like, oh I can just run
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: my engagement up. Oh I can just get uh exposure
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what I mean, And everybody has
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: a real message.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: And another thing I've been on exactly exactly how you
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: ended it is perfect because people rapping now to rap,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, I know you because
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: we kind of came up from the same place. We
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: came up in a time where like, if you said
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: you was a rapper, Bro, you had a rap right there,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: exactly Like it wasn't like play the song, go look
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: at my clip, Oh you're a rapper. You had a
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: rap right there, no matter who was there, and you
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: had a rap and the shit had to be dope.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: And if it wasn't dope, there was like they're not
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: gonna listen. That's it. You lost your credibility right there.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: But now, Bro andg this is like my take that
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: people never agree with, Bro, But I just like the
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: epitome of what you're talking about, but also it worked.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: But the epitome of what you're talking about to me,
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Dog is Drake Bro Like, Drake ain't rapping about nothing, Bro,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: like where rap came from and like the essence of rap, Bro,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Like that is not what rap is about. You know
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Drake is rapping like the dude that
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: you see in the club that hangs out with the
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: dope boys. But you know he ain't about that life,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like that's how I see it,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Like that's how it looks to me because that's the
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: closest thing he resembles that I've seen, you know what
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, So like he's super successful, number one, top
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: of the charge, everything. But when that's the example of rap,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, that's not rap. And
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: then you go from that down and everybody's trying to
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: be Drake. It's like, bro, Like, Drake is an anomaly. Bro,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Drake is you know Michael Jackson. Drake is you know
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Britney Spears. Drake is one of those that you know,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: bad Bunny, Like, He's one of those that come around
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: once every generation and it just like works and it
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: takes off in a crazy way. But Drake is not
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: like when people think of rap, Like and even right now,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: like that whole thing of Meta Man talking about when
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: they got sent that Wu Tang Forever record, he was
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: just like, Yo, this is not something Wu Tang would
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: get on. Like That's part of what I'm talking about, Bro,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Like if you was rap, if you was really.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Hip hop, I understand. You can tell me all day.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: If they would have did that song, their career would
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: have took off in a way that it never would
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: have been like before, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: who knows what that would have done for Wu Tang.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: If they did that, then I'm not denying that. I'm
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: not saying it's not true. I understand, bro, but that's
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: not hip hop. Bro.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I think with the Drake thing is
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: that I always I always gotta like give credit. I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: guess you could say to bird Man, bro, because he
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: has the machine, Like whatever the machine is that that
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: gets you to that next level, he has it. He
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: did it with cash money, he did it with Lil Wayne,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and then when Lil Wayne started like going to commercial,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: he passed the torch to Drake, and then Drake he
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: got on his Like I guess he's like kind of
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: independent now to a degree. So he's like, all right,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I'm taking my machine out. He plugged it into NBA.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Young boy. Now he's out of here, you know what
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I mean. Like he's he's been the common denominator for
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: like the last three like hottest artists in the game. So,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if this gonna haunt me one
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: day saying this, but he when when you hear him talk,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like a bright person, Like he never
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: has anything profound or insightful to say. So it's kind
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: of just like what am I looking at? You know
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you sold fifty billion records, you
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: don't have no game to give nobody. You're gonna go
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: on the radio station try to fight Charlot Mane. That's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: like that, that's the peak of like your solo social
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: or try to do you think that Drew Ski thing
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: was real? Well ran down.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know, bro, it didn't seem real.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: But then the way that if the fallout came, it
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: was like they kind of just tried to brush it
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: under the rug and kept it moving. So like I
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: don't know if they're just super committed to the bit
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: or what.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Bro Berdman is not a funny guy. That's why I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: feel like it's real, you know what I mean. He's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: not a jokester, So like, Yo, we're gonna pretend that
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you robbed me, And then it just seemed like Berdman
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: wouldn't go for nothing like that.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: But it's like it's like a very different thing but
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: kind of the same vein as like the r Kelly thing. Bro,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Like this dude is this way, but they gave him
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: like for whatever reason, he could just identify talent and
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: get them like out of here, out of the stratosphere.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Like whatever you could say about bird Man, he can
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: identify talent and get them out of here. Bro, Like
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: he's done it with some of the biggest artists that
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: ever have been alive.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Bro, Nicki Minaj, you know what I'm saying, Like Nicki Minaj,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Drake Lil, Wayne, NBA, Young Boy, even young Thug to
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: a degree, because.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: He really, like I forgot about you know what I'm saying.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: The producers, you know, many fresh you know what I'm saying,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Like for him to see, like, yo, these are the
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: people right here. These are the ones that need to
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: go in and then to not get in their way.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Because everybody that we just mentioned had their own style
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: that was different and they didn't like conform to the industry.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: They just became the new sound. You know what I'm saying,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Like many Fresh you knew him, many fresh beat, Bro,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and people wanted many fresh type beats.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Wayne.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Everybody started rapping like Wayne Doug. Everybody started rapping like
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the girls. They all started rapping like Nikki. All the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: rappers just want to sound like Drake.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Bro. You know what I'm saying, Like.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: He really just like, you know, let loose into the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: world like some of the biggest artists of all time.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: You know, this might be this might be hate, but
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I saw this one thing. I think he was the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: one that actually spoke on it. But he got some
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: crazy ass deal like in the nineties with Universal, I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: think he got like eighty percent ownership or whatever. So
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: like there's this like theory out there where it was
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: like the industry saw how independent master he was and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: how much money he was making. So Burt Man was
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: like the industry's response to that, like, we want to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: get this money off of his wave too, So they
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: just found some guy to be like the face for
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it and make sense. I think that's part of the
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: reason why he has a machine, because like Universal is
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: like such a big, a big thing, which is another
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: reason why Drake swing. Universal was weird to me too,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: because it's like.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I think that was really just
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: like an ego move, bro, because when you put that
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: out in the air, your fans, no matter what happens,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: they're gonna believe it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: you just throw these accusations out and that's all that
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: people are gonna remember.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna know that they got dismissed. Nobody's gonna know
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: if it's right or wrong.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Like we don't know still to this day, you know
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it got dismissed, but I don't
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: mean nothing. But you plant that little doubt out there,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and you know, at the end of the day, bro,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Like this is another thing that's funny to me too. Man,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Drake's whole thing was Kendrick is nothing but bots and
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: bought engagement.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Right, It's pretty.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Much what he was accusing them of, Like you're this
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: isn't real. You just had the machine behind you to
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: make it look like it's real.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: But then at the end of the year, Drake is
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the number one streamed artist and that's all that everybody's
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: talking about.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: So which is it? Do these plays be fake.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Or not? Like because you can't say, yo, all this
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: is a mirage. But then I'm the number one stream artist.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Look at me, it's one or the other, you know
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like it's like a crazy thing where
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: like people want to say people want to expose the industry,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and this is across all genres, Bro. They want to
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: expose the industries when things aren't working their way or
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: they perceive that it's not working their way, but then
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: turn around and still use the same methods you know
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying in that industry. So it's like, bruh,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: you could fool you know these people that don't know
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: what's going on. But come on, man, It's like something
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: that we've talked about on this podcast from the beginning,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: like especially like when Quincy was here, because me and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: him did a lot of moving around, like just with
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the music stuff and met a lot of different people,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and you see how bs this thing is.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Like these people that people know that think are like
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: so lit or whatever the case is. Bro, you meet
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: them and they're like damn near like homeless type, you
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like they're not making no bread.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: They're like just trying to make money every day off
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: their name because they don't own nothing, you know what
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's like my only way of making
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: money is my face card, Like it's just me being
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: somewhere or somebody leaning on me for something whatever. So
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: it's like every day is like a hustle, you know
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And people don't understand that. They just understand, like, Yo,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: they got x amount of plays or you know, they
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: got a song with this person, so they must be
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: they must be doing it for real, you know what
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, this is all a fausada man exactly.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: They're just they're just selling a dream literally people it man.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Literally. Bro.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: It's like the only the one thing I noticed for sure, Bro,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: is like, people don't care until you got a budget.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: That's what anything Bro, Until you got a budget, nobody cares.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: That's what makes things so special like Drake and forty.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That's what makes those kinds
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: of situations so fire because it's people that really just
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: link up and say, Yo, I believe in you, you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: believe in me. Let's grow together there and make this
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: thing happen. You know what I'm saying, Like, let's make history.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And you know it's not gonna it's not gonna show
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: itself right now, but if we stay locked in, it'll
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: show itself sooner than later, you know what I mean.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: And that's one of the things, bro, that I feel
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: like is like just missing in general. Bro, Because we
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: were talking before we started the podcast, like about people
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that you know from the past that you were never
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: able to like do stuff with as far as like
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: business or even just come up together. And it's just
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: one of those things, bro, where it's like, Bro, like
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: these things could be happening so easily if people really
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: just locked in and let.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Go of the facades.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Stop looking at that person
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: or this person and say, oh, nah, bro, Like if
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: we start doing something, it got to be like that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Like nah, Bro, Like everybody started somewhere you just ain't
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: see to come up because you wasn't in that area.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly, you ain't seen the corny Drake stuff because you
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: ain't live in Toronto. Bro. Like the people that lived
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: around him, they saw all his corny stuff and when
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: he blew up, they look at him like, oh man,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: this is just the guy from around.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: The corner, you know.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: But when he went worldwide, Bro, thousand people that knew
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: him in the beginning while he was still working it out.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: That don't matter, bro at all. That don't matter at all. Bro.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I can't hear you over the sound of my screaming.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Fans literally, Bro.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So it's like, man, people just gotta like lock in,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Like even like you, Like we were talking about Birdman, bro,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like that's part of his thing too.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Like he just locks in and he's like, Bro, I'm
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: gonna come up, you know what I'm saying. Like that's it,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Like he just knows he's gonna come up. He might
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: he might not do it in a way that like
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: we would agree with or we would move that same way.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: But like like I just said, he birthed, you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: for the best artists of all time.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: So it's like, can you argue with the results?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Can't even be mad at him? Bro?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Literally, it's crazy, man.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: But dog Like, one thing we got in common with
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: all these people were talking about dog is and they
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: all from like back in the day, you know what
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. And we we at that point too, man,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: We at that stage where we transitioning into the unk status.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, We didn't younks.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Dog Like.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy to think about. And just you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I'll be going to places now they be calling me sir.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Come on, Brome.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I'm a little boy. Yeah. Man, it's bad, Bro, it's bad.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I this is bar. It's called the other bar, and
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: on Monday, after the open mic is over, I get
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: on the OX and I just play music at the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: bar and I put Fabulous on the other day and
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: then it's little Jit, little Jit Gunna come up to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: me talking about, oh, you're playing that old school shit.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like old school, And I thought about it. I'm like, damn,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: this shit did come out of two thousand and three.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: That's twenty two years, bro, twenty two years. Man, that's crazy.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Now, that's crazy because a couple of days ago, Craig
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: David dropped an album, right, Craig David, the R and
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: B singer from Back in the Day.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: The album he dropped was the.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Twenty five year anniversary of the joint that I'll be
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: listening to. Bro, I'm like twenty and then I think
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: about it, like, twenty five years is old one?
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Like that?
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: To me, that sounded like it was yesterday, dog, But
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: that was twenty five years yo. When I posted the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: episode with Sean, we did a clip talking about the
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: PS one, right, and I was talking about back in
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the day, and somebody in the comments was like, Bro,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: what you're talking about back in the day? That's a
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: PS one And I was like, am I tripping? I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: looked it up. PS one dropped in ninety five, Bro
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: thirty years ago, Bro thirty years ago to PS one
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: dropped though, Yo, you feel me, Bro, I couldn't believe
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: that when I heard that. Bro, I'm like, there's no
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I thought I was tripping. I thought, buddy, got me.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, Damn, I'm over here, Captain.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: PS one dropped in old wait nah Bro, ninety five Bro.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And I told Buddy, I'll commented back, I'm like, oh,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: that shit dropped in ninety five.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: He's like, oh damn. He ain't even realize it either.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Bro. It's over for you too.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Welcome, yeah, fast, Welcome to the club, buddy.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Man, God, hey, I'm not gonna lie though.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Man, I feel like we're like this generation is like
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: dope unks, you know what I mean? Cause like that
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: that's something that they always talk about. Our generation is
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: like all the stuff we've been through, just like in general.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like nine to eleven, the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: market crash, you know, all the political unrest, COVID, you
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: know what I'm.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Saying, Like survivors.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: When you think about the generation before, like the generations
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: before us. Dog, they was vibing, Bro, they was vibing.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: They was delivering newspapers and living in a mansion.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Like, what the hell, Bro, I got seventy five jobs.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I got a modest home. Bro, Like, what is going on?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: All they had to do was take the bus and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: not do crack, and you was gonna be six figures EASi. Literally, Bro,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: avoid the crack, Just get on the bus, go to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the factory.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Fact yo.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Literally, Bro, you was putting together sandals and making enough
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: money to leave your wife at home and have three
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: kids brouh.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Three put up through college.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: You're on the house and you were just on the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: conveyor belt like you was just the one strapping the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: throng part of the sandal.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Br and you retired off that dog.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: We used to we used to have it made in
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: this country.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Man. What happened that ass? Bro?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: And you see Elon Musk was talking about like in
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: like ten years or something. He thinks that people are
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: just like there's just not gonna be enough jobs because
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the AI and everything, and the government is just gonna
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: have to send people bread because they just literally can't work.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: That's insanity. So I mean, what does that mean the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: government is going to be involved in all these corporations
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: using AI for everything? Like are they going to be
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: getting money from Amazon? Because where's the money gonna be
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: coming from?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: That's a good question.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw another thing like they
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: talking about, like the AI thing like cannot be restricted
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: at the state level, you know what I mean, Like
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: it'll just be federal.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: So it's so the government, the government is backing AI,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, They're backing so they're in
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: for it, like they're they're down for or you know
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: this new wave. It's crazy, bro, it really is crazy.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: We're really living in some different times. Yeah, that's another thing.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Brouh.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: And I don't even blame them, honestly, bro, Like I
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: got friends like that too, And you know when they
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: talk to me, I'm like, bro, I feel you, like
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I feel you one hundred percent.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Like I'll be feeling bad sting my daughter to school.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm sitting here for no reason. Literally, bro, No,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: you could have been at the criba Mario Kart.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Literally.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: People ask me now, like like, oh, you know you're
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: gonna tell your kids to go to college with it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, that's like I know people right now
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: that went to college for a job that don't even
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: exist anymore. So like, you know, if you're gonna get
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: one hundred k in debt for something that a robot
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: is going to be able to do in seven minutes,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: like that's that's that don't sound like the wave to me, bro.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Cooked, bro cooked. I think that's another reason I was talking.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I was actually talking about this on stage last night. Bro.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I think like you know, like this this the cancel culture, Willy,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that that's like such a thing now. I think part
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: of the reason people are always like looking you ever
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: see somebody online just trying to like intellectualize something and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: put all these like academic words on it, like da da.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of those people are just like
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: college educated people that have like this like knowledge and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: they don't know what to do with it, so now
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to apply it to all these like trivial.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: You gotta justify it, you gotta justify spend all day.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: On Facebook arguing with people over like something that really
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, because it's just like the back of your
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: head is just like I'm too. In death for nothing.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: You gotta argue with people you went to high school
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: with over stupid stupid stuff. Like I think that's that
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: plays a big role because, like I've been seeing it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Did you see that video that just went viral? The
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: pop the balloon thing of that girl. She's like she's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: built really bad. Okay, she's built. She she like a
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: strong too, Okay. And uh she's talking to the guys.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: She's like, you do you vote And he's like, no,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not really in the politics. She popped the balloon
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm college educated. Voting is important. But
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it's just like, hey, we're here trying to like hook up,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: like nobody asked. Fact, you're trying to like make this.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: You're trying to talk about politics and then voting culture.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Bro, you in a pop the balloon session? Like what
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: your facts?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Literally, there's no way when you was in college you
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: had this in mind, Like yeah, then I'm gonna pay this.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: To pop up a loon.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: That's insane. Bro, that's insane.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. But they'd be so thirsty to like
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: throw that in your face, man, And I get it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I would too, Bro, You know what I mean? You
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: got sold a dream.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: And hey, I will say that's one advantage of being unk.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Bro, Like I met my wife when like meeting people
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: was still a thing like that before, like everybody had
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: like their digital blueprint, before you could see everybody. It
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: was wain in the past online like bro, before all
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the crazy stuff, right yo, dating right now gotta be insane.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: You google somebody's name, you find all types of stuff
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: you ain't want to. Dang, you got evicted in twenty nineteen.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. Like they're always trying
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: to sleep over.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: It's treacherous, man, It's treacherous. And like, uh, I think
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: psychologically people are just in a very weird space where
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: like everything's just like a hot pocket to them, you
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like they'll meet somebody on some
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: app or something, and then uh, like that girl, she's
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: like the guy say he doesn't he doesn't vote or whatever,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Well he said he votes on the look anyways, that's relevant.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: But uh, everybody thinks something bigger and better is coming,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: something bigger and better is on the way, So they're
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: just in and out.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Real viral moment, you know what I mean, viral life moment.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like, hey, you ain't gonna get but
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: so many of these you might want to stick around
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and try to like gel with this person because this
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: could actually mean something. But everything's so like swhite right,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: s white left. People take you know, actual human beings.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: For granted, Bro.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: To bring your full circle is like we were talking
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: about earlier, Bro, sometimes you're destined to be the guy
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: that puts the throng part on the sandals at the factor,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: have some kids, retire, and that's your life, brou And
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: that's not a bad life.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Though it's not a bad life.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: It might not be viral, it might not be something
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: that's gonna get you known by you know, seventeen people
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you don't care about. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: it's a life, Bro.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Enjoy your freedom and peace of mind. I'll tell you that,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: no facts, but.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Before we wrap up, something I wanted to touch on
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: about you specifically, ao is I feel like you had
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: a big hand in reviving the comedy scene in Orlandover Bro,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Like I kind of seen how you was like promoting
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it and kind of how you was setting up the
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: little you know, planting the seeds and everything, Like how
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: it started, you know, like back to like you know,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, you know what I mean, like the way
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you were kind of envisioning the way you were turning it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like some of your earlier shows, like
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of comedy like that going on,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: even like downtown, you know what I mean, It wasn't.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: And then now it's like, Bro, I mean even stuff
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: that's like separate from what you're doing. I'd be seeing
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: like other things like still like Brothers Comedy Damn there
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: every night in Orlando at some place that's dope, like
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: you could really just have a good time with it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: And it's like one of like I said, bro, like
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: You had a big hand in like bringing that, bringing
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: that like resurgence back, you know what I mean.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to get credit to Austin, Austin, Texas.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: When the first time I went out to Austin and
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I saw all the rooms in the clubs right next
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: door to each other running shows at the same time,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I was just like, Oh, yeah, we can do this,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like cause producing producing comedy
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: comedy shows gets real tricky, especially depending on what city
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: you're in. Cause like there's these like unwritten rules in
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: my opinion that are outdated and kind of holding people back.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: We're like, oh, if such and such has a Tuesday
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: night show in Sanford, you can't have a Tuesday night
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: show because there's this imaginary conflict and interesting. But both
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: of y'all rooms only hold forty people, you know what
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I'm sure Sanford has eighty people that
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: they can, you know what I mean. And when I
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: started doing my shows, I was very vocal about like, no, everybody, Hey,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, do it right next door to mine.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: So that way I can do time in mind and
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I can come do time at yours. That's how we
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: how we're gonna get better faster. We need to have
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: more stage time so we can start like getting the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: wheel spinning. So I just I got everything, you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of my rooms off the ground, and I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: see like a few other people getting their rooms off
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the ground too, So I try to in my mind,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: is just the more stage time the better because we
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: can attract more comedians from out of town, we can
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: attract bigger names, we can generate more economy, and it's
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: just gonna be better for everybody. You can't really have
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: an ego, you know what I mean, You have an
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: ego that's going to slow everybody down. One of my
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: homeboys was just showing me this message that he got
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: because he just started doing comedy in some city in Florida,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and this guy who's been there for like twenty years
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: or whatever, he's pissed at him, like, all you should,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you can't do shows out here, blah blah. I don't
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: think it's a good idea, it's a shitty show. And
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: then the dude shows in the lineup, he's like, Bro,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I booked the same comedians that you book. If my
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: show's bad, you're so bad too. But that it's like
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: this antiquated mindset where it's like, I promise you there's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: enough ticket sales for everybody, man, I promise you. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: sell tickets to strangers every week. They have no idea
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: who I am. They're buying tickets to the shows.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Bro. And it's one of those things too, Bro like.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: With and I don't know if you've thought about it
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: like this, but it kind of becomes like a snowball
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: thing too, because of the way downtown is changing, you
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you can. You can tell
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: they're trying to get away from the nightclub vibe. You
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, comedy show, Bro, that's the going out.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: You go out, you have some drinks, you can you
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: can have a date. You know what I'm saying. You
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: cold vibe. You can be in that environment. But it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: not clubbing. You know what I'm saying, You're not doing
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: nothing quote unquote crazy. It's a comedy show, you know
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Then the unk thing, Bro, were getting
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: a little older. Bro, it's damn near impossible to convince
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: your friends to come out to a club night.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Like, it's not going to happen. Bro.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: You thirty five. You ain't no way somebody coming during
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the week to a club night. Bro, that's done. It's cooked.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Especially in this day and age. I feel like when
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: we were younger, we used to see like forty year
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: olds in the club that was in there. But now
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: people got phones.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't even think about that beer man.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I'd even think. You can't even just go incognito. You know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you can't get off work and say, oh, but have
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a couple of beers with the guys, and you really
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: at tears or something, you.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean, Like that, Oh man, that's crazy, bro.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I think about that.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's crazy people. Every now and then people
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: will hit me up talking about like, oh I gotta
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I got a Tuesday available, I got a Friday available.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey man, that club shit is over for me,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I'm not I'm not
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: chasing that that that that ghost no more, you know
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I still pop out, I'll host
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: every now and then, but to do that hardcore like
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: inviting my friends out. None of my friends go to
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the club, Like they don't go to the club in Orlando,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Like they'll go to the club if we're out of town.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: But I can't imagine right now sending the flyer to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: my guys pull up on your boy two hundred dollars
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: bottles tonight.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Another thing that I've seen you mentioned too. That's hilarious, bro,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: because I feel the same way. But like, and it
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: kind of goes with what you said about the club
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and thing like nowadays, Bro, you gotta damn near be
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: dexter to cheat, bro, Like you gotta be overly horny
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: and dedicated to cheat, Dog, because like what you just said, Bro,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: cameras everywhere, your phone's being tracked. Like, Bro, if you're
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: figuring out a way to creep in twenty twenty five,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: get some sex there you need that, you need that, bro.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro, constant surveillance. Bro, it's over no facts.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: But yeah, Man, I appreciate you coming out.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Dog definitely wanted you to come check out the space
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: and just catch a vibe.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Man surviving here for sure. I definitely got to pull
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: up with you. I appreciate you being patient too, man,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: because I know Flip was it last week. I was
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: supposed to pull up.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: But it's one of those things, bro, that we kind
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: of talked about earlier, like when we were talking about Quincy.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: That's one of the things.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Like as him being a close friend of mine, I
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: appreciate that, like he's on his thing, So stuff like that. Bro,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: it don't bother me because I know you. I know
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: you busy and you're moving around.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: It's different if I if I know that you're just
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: at home, you know what I'm saying, laying down, wasting online.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: But I know you'd be working man hard, Bro. So
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: it's like finding those moments, damn Bro. But finding those
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: moments to be able to like hard out to make
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: things like this happen ain't easy, you know what I'm saying. Like,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: you really got to dedicate yourself to it. So, you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: like I said, Bro, Like, it ain't no big thing.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you was able to pull up. Definitely want
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: to have y'all here more often, you know, just to
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: get some content and this stuff.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Definitely I'm gonna pull up for show. Yeah for sure,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I might. I might be doing the podcast thing again.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: It's Monday. My birthday is on Tuesday, so I'm definitely
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: getting a spot downtown. I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot some
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: more content. But before that comes, I want to at
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: least put out the videos from the ones we already did,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: because I'm really not trying to be that guy that's
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like course podcasts.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: And even bro like logistically, if you need help, let
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: me know. You know what I'm saying, because like I said, Bro,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: like I got the process down pretty good. It's pretty easy,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. At least if you could
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: eliminate that part of it. It just makes it just
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: so you just create. You don't got to think about,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Oh I gotta do X, Y and Z.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Man, The goal is to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: turn this comedy thing up, get some sponsors for the pod,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: and like really really just go crazy. But once I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: get the food truck swinging, I know what my life
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: looks like, because like right now, I was like I
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: really don't know what my life is about to look
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: like over the next like three or four months, you
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, getting a getting this food truck
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: off the ground.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I feel that it's.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: So tired consuming and then closing, like closing the truck down,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: that's about to be like a two hour long process
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: every night, you know what I mean, just unloading everything
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and all that.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, but it's one of those things, bro,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Anything that's worth it takes time, you know what I'm saying.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Like it's tough.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Like bro, when we opened a nel salon Dog, I
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: was down bad for like two years, bro, Like just
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: all the money I was spending and all the things
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: that were going on, like we weren't able to open
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: at one point, you know what I'm saying, Like it's tough,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: but now it's rolling.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: It is doing way better. You know what I'm saying. Like,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: it's like, man, you could you could work.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Hard for somebody else who you could work hard for
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: yourself dog So like I always.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Choose myself first, always facts. But yeah, man, appreciate you
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: doing two