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Chuck & Buck 12-26 Hour 2: 12th man news with Gregg Bell, whoah there NFL! and we have just one question... · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Look out, Aniston, can you get there?
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Speaker 1: Chump on it, dig it tuk it away late, but
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Speaker 1: they're gonna roll up down.
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Speaker 3: Detroit keeps the football with two fifty nine reminting and
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Speaker 3: it's fourth and forever.
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Speaker 1: Chuck Ashley with you. Merry Christmas to you all up.
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Speaker 1: You had a great holiday. We gather here on a
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Speaker 1: football Friday to get you ready for a football weekend.
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Speaker 1: Greg Bell's gonna join us here in about two minutes,
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Speaker 1: our Seahawks insider, as we discussed the Carolina Panthers matchup
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Speaker 1: with him here on this Friday. Hugh Milan will be
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Speaker 1: with us. Mike Sando will be with us later on
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Speaker 1: the show today as well. We'll have your Friday Ohoe
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Speaker 1: and more, and we of course have headlines to start
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Speaker 1: the seven o'clock hour, brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps,
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Speaker 1: Light Choose Chill. Netflix was the home for two NFL
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Speaker 1: games on Christmas Day. The Dallas Cowboys defeated the Washington
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Speaker 1: Commanders thirty to twenty three, and then the Vikings twenty
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Speaker 1: three to ten winners over the Detroit Lions, who committed
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Speaker 1: six turnovers in a game that eliminated them from any
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Speaker 1: possibility of making the playoffs. The Denver Broncos as of
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Speaker 1: this moment have the best record in the National Football
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Speaker 1: League at thirteen and three. They defeated the Kansas City
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Speaker 1: Chiefs twenty to thirteen the final score last night. The
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Speaker 1: Seahawks can match them with the best record in the
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Speaker 1: NFL with a win on Sunday against the Carolina Panthers.
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Speaker 1: Kickoff there at ten o'clock. More on that with Greg
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned coming up in a minute. NFL Week
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Speaker 1: number seventeen continues to Sunday all sorts of playoff implications
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Speaker 1: everywhere you look. Jacksonville at Indianapolis, the Colts still barely
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Speaker 1: alive for their playoff shot, and man Liam Cohen might
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Speaker 1: end up being the coach of the Year over Mike
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Speaker 1: McDonald with what he's done in changing not only the
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Speaker 1: trajectory of the team but also the culture there in
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Speaker 1: a very short period of time. Jaguars are man. They're
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Speaker 1: playing as well as anybody in the NFL right now.
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia at Buffalo will be the most interesting afternoon game
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Speaker 1: on Sunday and then the night game which will be
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Speaker 1: interested in the Chicago Bears at San Francisco taking on
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Believe it or not, the Carolina
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Speaker 1: Panthers have a chance to wrap up the division this weekend,
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Speaker 1: where the Seahawks might not. That seems weird.
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Speaker 4: It does seem very weird.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, college football looks like Michigan is closing in on
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Speaker 1: its brand new head coach, Kyle Whittingham. Of all people,
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Speaker 1: it was just terrific at Utah, but he was retiring
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Speaker 1: from the game right. Only one thing could bring him back,
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Speaker 1: and that's that Michigan job. Looks like that's the scenario
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Speaker 1: that's unfolding before us here on this Football Friday, as
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Speaker 1: Michigan and Kyle Whittingham are working on a deal for
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Speaker 1: him to be the next head coach. College football playoff
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Speaker 1: resumes on New Year's Eve. Denzel Boston, since last we
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Speaker 1: spoke no surprise here, has decided to leave Washington and
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Speaker 1: enter the NFL Draft, where he's expected to be a
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Speaker 1: first round draft pick. They're kracking, man, just when you
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Speaker 1: left them for dead. They've won three straight games despite
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Speaker 1: being the most injured they've been all season long. They'll
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Speaker 1: next play Sunday against the Philadelphia Flyers. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: talk to Greg Bell.
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Speaker 5: With the bell tolls. It must be seven o'clock and
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Speaker 5: time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought to
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Speaker 1: Now with twelfth Man Nude, here's Great Bell with Chuck
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Speaker 1: and Butt.
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Speaker 3: Good morning Greg, Good morning Mary. Late Christmas have been
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Speaker 3: everybody listening?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did your holiday go? The last couple of days? Here?
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Speaker 3: Oh fantastic. The whole family back together, all four of us,
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Speaker 3: nice traditions back in. It was really really rewarding.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you all cracked open some uh Francis Ford Coppola
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Speaker 1: Prosecco to celebrate the holiday.
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Speaker 3: I didn't. I need to get down.
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Speaker 4: There are disappearing, one by one.
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Speaker 3: I totally blew it last week on the round table.
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Speaker 3: I was planning on going in and I said, no,
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Speaker 3: that's where I want to go in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well all right, well we'll get it to
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Speaker 1: you eventually and you'll never have to miss another celebration
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Speaker 1: without your.
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Speaker 4: Oral drink it all and tell you how.
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Speaker 3: It on. I need to get down there. You have
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Speaker 3: the best thing about my Christmas was for me anyway.
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Speaker 3: I didn't watch one second of one football game. It
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Speaker 3: was just a total Yeah, this is a vacation.
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Speaker 1: I didn't watch any either. I wouldn't say it was
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Speaker 1: the best part, but yeah, I didn't watch any of
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Speaker 1: it either. It's just it, it just feels kind of
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Speaker 1: Cheesy's like, first of all, you're already, you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of the NBA's kind of cornered the market on this day,
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Speaker 1: and so you're trying to steal all of their audience. Fine,
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Speaker 1: all's fair in businesses war. But then you're sitting here
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Speaker 1: with you know, everybody having just tapped out the afford presence,
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Speaker 1: and you're saying, if you want to watch football today,
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Speaker 1: got to buy two streaming services. I just don't nothing
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Speaker 1: about it. Feels good to me, Greg that they're playing
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Speaker 1: tripleheader on Christmas these days.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess the only think, Yeah, I agree. The
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Speaker 3: only thing better for me not watching NBA or in
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Speaker 3: the NFL is I didn't have to watch the NBA again.
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Speaker 3: Get another day of my life.
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Speaker 1: I didn't watch all right, So you've made it very
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Speaker 1: clearly you spend time with family. I get it.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 1: Well, Ashley and I've been talking about this all morning long,
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Speaker 1: and I would imagine Earn Bucky were talking about it
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Speaker 1: back on Monday and Tuesday and probably with their families
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday and Thursday. This Carolina team is just weird.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there is nothing consistent about them. There's nothing
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Speaker 1: that they really do all that well. They've been outscored
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Speaker 1: by fifty points combined this season. They've got bad losses,
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Speaker 1: they've got weird impressive wins, and yet they're the team
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Speaker 1: with a better shot at clinching a division than the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks on Sunday. So is Mike McDonald preparing everyone for
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Speaker 1: the weirdness of the Carolina Panthers.
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Speaker 3: The Seahorks are at the point where it really is
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Speaker 3: about them. And it was even true now less true
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Speaker 3: of the Rams last week because there were certain things defensively, especially,
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Speaker 3: they had to do and prepare for for Sean mcvay's offense,
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Speaker 3: and they didn't do any of it very well defensively
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Speaker 3: five and eighty Wine Yards. But when you talk to
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Speaker 3: about opponents these days, they say, we really are focused
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Speaker 3: inward about us, and if we don't fix the things
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Speaker 3: we need to fix, it doesn't matter who we play.
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Speaker 3: We're not gonna play well when we do the things
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Speaker 3: like third down conversions and red zone and stop the
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Speaker 3: run the fourth long third downs, which was a difference
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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter against there. So they do those things,
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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who they're playing. The couple times I've
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Speaker 3: seen Carolina, it reminds me that they get six games
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Speaker 3: inside the NFC South every year, and this year and
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Speaker 3: especially six games inside the NFLFC South are pretty easy games.
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Speaker 3: And now that's including Tampa, who of course came into
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Speaker 3: Seattle and ripped the Seahawks for thirty eight points. But
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Speaker 3: that Tampa team that came to Seattle was playing against
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Speaker 3: four the series. We are missing four starters on defense,
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Speaker 3: which is a big part of that game. But they
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Speaker 3: have the Panthers have the Seahawks attention. Yes, this isn't
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Speaker 3: a layup week where they just think, oh, we beat
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Speaker 3: the Rams and this is gonna be easy. Yes, they're
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Speaker 3: on the road against the team that if the Seahawks
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Speaker 3: lose on the next two games, they may be right
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Speaker 3: back in Charlotte in three weeks or now two weeks
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Speaker 3: when the playoffs begin. So there is no overlooking here.
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Speaker 3: It's not that there is, though a chance because it's
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Speaker 3: a ten am game on a holiday week. They took Thursday.
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Speaker 3: They didn't practice yesterday, which is very unconventional in a
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Speaker 3: sport where they're very used to their Sunday to Sunday schedule.
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Speaker 3: I think there is a chance they start slowly in
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Speaker 3: Charlotte on Sunday. They're gonna leave today after practice. It's
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Speaker 3: just a different week. It's a little off week. Ever
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Speaker 3: since the Rams win, it's been different. And Bryce Younger
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Speaker 3: quarterback is another one of those quarterbacks who can get
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Speaker 3: outside the pocket, who can extend plays, an athletic quarterback
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Speaker 3: who have They've given the Seahawks trouble. As good as
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks pass USU has been, they still do lose
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Speaker 3: contain at times, and that can also be a big concern.
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Speaker 1: On Sunday, Greg Bell is with us R Sawks inside.
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Speaker 1: You can follow them at g BEL Seattle and of
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Speaker 1: course complete Seahawks coverage at Thenewstribune dot com. All right, so,
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Speaker 1: injury wise, how are the Seahawks looking for Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Rik Willen is back to practice fully and it looks
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Speaker 3: like he's not even gonna be on the injured list
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Speaker 3: it comes out today, so that's good news for the
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Speaker 3: death of the secondary, except Kobe Bryant hasn't practiced this week. Again,
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Speaker 3: they didn't practice yesterday. The NFL requires him to put
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Speaker 3: out an injury report anyway, so it was an estimation.
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Speaker 3: It has estimated. The Seahawks estimated again that Kobe Bryant
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Speaker 3: had safety with the knee and the hamstring injury from
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Speaker 3: Charles cross is starting left tackle. Both of them didn't
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Speaker 3: practice this week yet it looks like they won't play again,
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Speaker 3: so that means probably Tyle kotat safety because Kuandrid Diggs
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Speaker 3: is injured and in fact been allowed to the team
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Speaker 3: to go home on weekends. He's not going to go
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Speaker 3: to the game and Charlotte's going to go back to
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Speaker 3: Texas with his family during the holidays because on the
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Speaker 3: practice squad anyway, and he's not he's injured. The one
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Speaker 3: game he's played with the Seahawks when he first got here,
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Speaker 3: he got hurt playing special and he's not available at
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Speaker 3: safety either. And Tylecotta has played well, so it would
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Speaker 3: be a somewhat of a different role for Okata, who
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Speaker 3: was playing for Julian Love now he'd be playing for
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Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant. They are interchangeable at safety, but if there
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Speaker 3: was more of a strong safety Brian often plays down
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Speaker 3: a little bit more nicky mon Warrior of course, makes
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Speaker 3: all the safety's roles interchangeable anyway. Josh Jones, the Seahawks
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Speaker 3: are really impressed with how he played against the Rams.
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Speaker 3: That's why they signed him. The veteran a half dozen
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Speaker 3: seasons in the league for three or four different teams,
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Speaker 3: has played both left and right side, and he did
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Speaker 3: it left and right side in consecutive weeks. He replays
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Speaker 3: Dave Lucas when Lucas missed a few snaps in the
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Speaker 3: Colts game, and then he starts to left tackle for Cross.
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Speaker 3: Leave mentioned this hamstring injury, especially this time of year,
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Speaker 3: in this time of the season, it's tough and sometimes
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Speaker 3: multiple weeks to come back for It. Wouldn't surprise me
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Speaker 3: if they really are trying out to keep the Cross
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Speaker 3: ready for the playoffs. They aren't saying that, But as
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Speaker 3: important as these two games are for seeding, I think
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Speaker 3: it's more important than Charles Cross gets almost a full
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Speaker 3: month off before the playoffs to see if they're starting
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Speaker 3: left tackle can play.
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Speaker 1: They sure are making a big deal about Robert Hunt,
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Speaker 1: the guard right guard for the Carolina Panthers, his window.
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Speaker 1: He's been on the ir almost all season long. This
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Speaker 1: is their best offensive lineman. They've opened up the window,
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Speaker 1: and all the articles about it are this improves the Panthers'
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Speaker 1: chances of getting into the playoffs. But they just opened
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Speaker 1: up the window. I mean, I don't know if you're
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Speaker 1: hearing anything about Carolina and Robert Hunt, but is he
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Speaker 1: going to be ready to play? Is there a chance
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Speaker 1: that their offensive line is going to be that much
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Speaker 1: better this Sunday after having sat all season long, and
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Speaker 1: you just did open his window here two games shy
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Speaker 1: of the playoffs.
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Speaker 3: No, I haven't heard anything about. Nobody that talked to
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Speaker 3: Can knows that he's going to play or not. But
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Speaker 3: it would be tough, I would think. And the purpose
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Speaker 3: for the three week window is two ramp guys up,
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Speaker 3: especially missed four months, and the fact that Carolina is
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Speaker 3: trying to get into the playoffs, like you said, and
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Speaker 3: their game up on Tampa Bay with two to play.
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Speaker 3: They play the Buccaneers next week in Tampa, which I
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Speaker 3: think no matter what happens, if Tampa wins on Sunday,
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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what Carolina Panthers do, they still have
12:29
Speaker 3: to be Tampa Bay next week.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't think they're gonna rush a guy out
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Speaker 3: who hasn't played for four months to play against the
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Speaker 3: Seahawks on Sunday knowing theyre going to have an NFC
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Speaker 3: in South Championship game the following week.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then who knows how effective he might be.
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Speaker 1: But it certainly is all the talk going on in
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Speaker 1: Carolina right now. Greg bellis with US Seahawks Insider, getting
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Speaker 1: you ready for the Seahawks and the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: And you know, we do this no cliche key to
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Speaker 1: victory every week, Bucky and myself. And this is the
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Speaker 1: most difficult time I've had trying to come up with
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Speaker 1: something because Carolina is just so weird. Craig, So, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you struggled with the same thing, what
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Speaker 1: would you call the key to this game on Sunday
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Speaker 1: for the Seahawks.
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Speaker 3: Well, Chuck, it's like any other game. The Seahawks are
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Speaker 3: more talented than this team. They should beat him. They
13:25
Speaker 3: have a better roster, they're coaching their schemes. They should
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Speaker 3: win this game. So don't turn the ball over and
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Speaker 3: let the team get back in it. The turnovers are
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Speaker 3: the great equalizer in football, and when you don't turn
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Speaker 3: it over, the better team wins. That's almost always the case,
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Speaker 3: home or away weather conditions, playoff, regular season. If you
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Speaker 3: don't turn the ball over, the better team almost always wins.
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Speaker 3: And that's the turnover margins stat in football is so telling.
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Speaker 2: It's almost always the team with the turnovers loses, not
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Speaker 2: every time, but the better team is usually will win
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Speaker 2: if as long as you don't have the mitigating factor
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Speaker 2: of turnovers.
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Speaker 3: And the Seahawks again have a quarterback who leads the
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Speaker 3: league in turnovers. Now I know he's in better over
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Speaker 3: the last few games, but that's still the issue for
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Speaker 3: this team to me. As long as they aren't derailed
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Speaker 3: by giving the ball away, they will beat teams they're
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Speaker 3: better than. And I think that's gonna be the case
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Speaker 3: on Sunday. Let's see, the weather's supposed to be no
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Speaker 3: precipitation about sixty degrees last night checked in Charlotte, so
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Speaker 3: that should not be a factor. No win that I saw.
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Speaker 3: It's a downtown stadium, that's a complete bowl. It's usually
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Speaker 3: not winding there. Anyway. Let's see if the Seahawks just
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Speaker 3: play a clean game, and if they do, I think
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Speaker 3: they win.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at your photo from Christmas Eve. That is
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Speaker 1: one impressive plate of food you've got there. What was
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Speaker 1: the best thing on that plate of food? What was
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Speaker 1: the best thing that you had to eat there? And
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Speaker 1: who made it?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 3: I made I make a homemade risotto. Well, so we
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Speaker 3: went down to Jacks down at the Market and Pike
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Speaker 3: placing some fresh king salmon right off the boat. So
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Speaker 3: and a friend of mine had a roast and there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of salad buried beneath it. But yeah, we
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Speaker 3: had custom salad. My wife's vegetarians, so we had a
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Speaker 3: lot of alternatives to meet. And yeah, it was a
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Speaker 3: feast to say the least. We had fifteen people in here,
15:21
Speaker 3: and it was a family tradition. We bring three or
15:23
Speaker 3: four families. The kids have been together since they were
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Speaker 3: in pre school and we've been doing it since preschool
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Speaker 3: and now they're all grown up, post college, early adults,
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Speaker 3: and it's thanks for messing because it's a good memory.
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Speaker 3: It's a great tradition we have all I'm.
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Speaker 1: Good enough, all right, I probably should ask you about
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Speaker 1: this before we wrap things up. Derek Hall not going
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Speaker 1: to play on Sunday. What does that mean to the
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Speaker 1: football team?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not only not plays. When you're suspended in
15:52
Speaker 3: the season, you got to go right away from the facility.
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Speaker 3: You can't be around at all. Mike McDonald said he
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Speaker 3: was really surprised actually that they've suspended him. The appeal
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Speaker 3: was that he was getting rolled up on from behind,
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Speaker 3: and he was trying to avoid an injury and get
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Speaker 3: away from that, and he lost his balance and fell
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Speaker 3: on and stepped on the guy who's trying to step
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Speaker 3: over him. The NFL didn't buy it. The optics of
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Speaker 3: it didn't look great, which is why he gets suspended.
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Speaker 3: The NFL, by the way, is really acting more swiftly
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Speaker 3: here the last month or so in suspending guys. I
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Speaker 3: mean DK mcguth got suspended a day after it happened,
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Speaker 3: so that Derek Hall, the jurisprudence usually takes a few
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Speaker 3: more days or five days. At the end of the week,
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Speaker 3: they're missing an ADG dresser who plays in rundowns, and
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Speaker 3: as though although Derek Hall's numbers have not been there,
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Speaker 3: he isn't every down type of guy. Now again, Nicki
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Speaker 3: min Worri playing outside linebacker and everywhere. He'll probably be
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Speaker 3: able to more of an outside linebacker on set Sunday
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Speaker 3: because Hall isn't in there. But as much as people say,
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Speaker 3: what's Derek Hall done, He's played all situations for this team.
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Speaker 3: And I know Mike Dhal really likes his aggressiveness and
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Speaker 3: his mentality. He's just a dog on games. I mean,
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Speaker 3: he's a bad dude once the games start, and they
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Speaker 3: will miss that, the mentality of him on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: All right, well when do you when do you leave?
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Speaker 1: When do you fly out?
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Speaker 3: Six six am tomorrow?
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Speaker 1: Okay?
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Speaker 3: And then trying to race back Sunday night to get
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Speaker 3: home so I can rejoin my family. That's gonna be
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Speaker 3: a tough trick postgame North Carolina in the same game, okay,
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Speaker 3: game day, But.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, save travels, enjoy the weekend, and hopefully
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Speaker 1: we'll chat with you on Monday.
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Speaker 3: All right, happy week I'll be home by Monday, so
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Speaker 3: happy weekend.
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Speaker 1: Than great guy, Thanks Greg, Greg bell Our Seahawks in
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Speaker 1: Do you mimosa it up?
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Speaker 3: No?
18:44
Speaker 4: Not with that? No, no, no, okay, straight, okay, maybe
18:47
Speaker 4: a drop of orange juice. Okay, that's it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, coming up next on the radio program NFL
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Speaker 1: versus NBA. It's really not a contest except on Christmas
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Speaker 1: Day Sports Radio now three point three kJ A r
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Speaker 1: F M. Nice makes it myself. I wish you kind
19:20
Speaker 1: of want Christmas start all over again hearing this.
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Speaker 4: I don't blame you.
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Speaker 1: By the way. We're really pushing the fencing, aren't we
19:27
Speaker 1: here at the Ieheart.
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Speaker 4: Seem's a big deal. I don't think it's as big
19:30
Speaker 4: of a deal as PayPal as these days, but it's
19:32
Speaker 4: a pretty big deal.
19:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well you can always, you know, buy your
19:38
Speaker 1: fencing equipment.
19:41
Speaker 4: That's true, you can do that, you can.
19:43
Speaker 1: So I want to sport the sponsors. It's been fencing
19:46
Speaker 1: really and really going all in on fencingly.
19:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's apparently like different ways to do it too.
19:51
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, big push, big push going on.
19:58
Speaker 1: I think it's an Olympic here community thing.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
20:01
Speaker 1: If it's a country thing, I don't know. But there
20:04
Speaker 1: just seems like, you know, one place, they say that
20:06
Speaker 1: we got in the habit of drinking milk, even though
20:10
Speaker 1: it never really was good for us, because the milk
20:14
Speaker 1: people spent so much money, yeah, to buy our government's
20:19
Speaker 1: stamp of approval. That's what i've heard. That's what i've heard.
20:22
Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a scuttle butt out there,
20:25
Speaker 1: and so maybe that's what maybe fencing's done that I
20:29
Speaker 1: don't know.
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Speaker 4: Or maybe it's like you know, what we're we know
20:32
Speaker 4: in the future, we're going back towards more swordsmanship when
20:35
Speaker 4: we maybe when we fight. So we got to start
20:37
Speaker 4: early and see who are swordsmen could be to.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't sitting around, Let's put it this way. I
20:44
Speaker 1: wasn't sitting around in my days just with my free
20:46
Speaker 1: time going Man, why didn't fencing get more? What happened?
20:49
Speaker 4: What happened to the idea of fencing?
20:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, why aren't we doing more of that? There aren't
20:53
Speaker 1: enough fencing clubs open. But it's I'm glad to see
20:56
Speaker 1: that there's a push.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's happening.
20:59
Speaker 1: I'm happy for the fencing people.
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Speaker 4: It is happening.
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Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say, I think that fighting people
21:05
Speaker 1: with skinny swords is awesome.
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Speaker 4: And don't forget you can pay your own way.
21:12
Speaker 1: Uh well, yesterday we had plenty of sports action to
21:16
Speaker 1: watch and plenty of time, plenty of other things to
21:20
Speaker 1: distract us. Do you have a go to movie, for example,
21:23
Speaker 1: that you watch on Christmas Day?
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Speaker 4: Not usually on Christmas Day because we do usually have
21:27
Speaker 4: sports on the TV. But like my Christmas movie, I
21:30
Speaker 4: have to watch every season every year, White Christmas. Okay,
21:34
Speaker 4: And I don't know why because it is very long,
21:36
Speaker 4: it's somewhat boring. Yeah, but it's just the idea of
21:40
Speaker 4: fencing in it. There's no fencing in it at all, actually,
21:43
Speaker 4: which is sad. And some of the music bothers me.
21:48
Speaker 4: But I mean there's wait, it's just tradition, but it's
21:50
Speaker 4: true and something about the ending of it, like it's
21:53
Speaker 4: worth it for all of the everything else, for the
21:56
Speaker 4: snow to fall at the end and sorry spoiler alert,
22:00
Speaker 4: and the big you know ending will follow the old
22:03
Speaker 4: man wherever he wants. I don't know all of it.
22:05
Speaker 4: I just love it. The nostalgia at the.
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Speaker 1: End worth all of the boringness. Yeah, just to get
22:10
Speaker 1: to the very end. Well, I'm a Christmas story guy,
22:13
Speaker 1: and it pains me.
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Speaker 3: To know that you don't.
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Speaker 4: I've never seen it.
22:17
Speaker 1: What you've never seen the movie, which is possible because
22:20
Speaker 1: it's twenty four to seven loop. But I always catch
22:24
Speaker 1: something different every single year. It happened again this year.
22:27
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm bringing it up because I did
22:31
Speaker 1: take time to watch that. I really didn't take time
22:33
Speaker 1: to watch sports. I mean, yeah, I checked out some
22:37
Speaker 1: just about every NBA game for a little bit, but
22:40
Speaker 1: the NBA's pretty much told us nothing really matters until
22:44
Speaker 1: the postseason. Anyway. I'm not one of those NBA fans.
22:47
Speaker 1: I do enjoy the league, and I do enjoy the sport,
22:51
Speaker 1: and so I watch quite a bit of basketball. But
22:55
Speaker 1: I like on Christmas Day, I didn't seem to make
22:58
Speaker 1: it a priority. Yeah, and yet I will defend it
23:02
Speaker 1: because they've kind of established that that's their day. It's
23:07
Speaker 1: been going on all our entire lives. I remember watching
23:10
Speaker 1: games at Grandma's house, you know, as a little kid
23:13
Speaker 1: that the NBA was on and and the NFL had
23:17
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and there was never a basketball game on the
23:20
Speaker 1: televisions and Thanksgiving where that was for football. And now
23:24
Speaker 1: the NFL is just trying to own everything, and I
23:26
Speaker 1: just I sort of find myself. I mean, obviously we're
23:32
Speaker 1: all hooked, we're NFL fans that we can't get enough
23:35
Speaker 1: of it. I'm watching every Thursday, can't wait till Saturday Sunday.
23:40
Speaker 1: But there is just something like, this is a line
23:42
Speaker 1: that you've crossed, and I'm not gonna go with you
23:45
Speaker 1: because you're trying to own every aspect of our lives.
23:50
Speaker 3: Right now.
23:50
Speaker 1: I think things are going pretty well in FL. I
23:53
Speaker 1: think you got it going on pretty well right now.
23:56
Speaker 1: And so why do you have to own every single day,
24:03
Speaker 1: major function. Hey, this is not your day. And now
24:08
Speaker 1: you're also on top of it, asking me, asking people,
24:11
Speaker 1: and this is what you're asking them to do. Don't
24:13
Speaker 1: tell me, Well, people already got Netflix in prime. No no,
24:16
Speaker 1: no, no no. You wouldn't be doing it if you, If
24:20
Speaker 1: those they weren't paying to try to get people just
24:23
Speaker 1: to buy their streaming services just to watch football. I
24:26
Speaker 1: think it's tacky. The NFL runs a monstrous, well oiled
24:32
Speaker 1: machine and I and they fill our entire year with
24:36
Speaker 1: things to look forward to, including the draft, and you
24:38
Speaker 1: know how much I'll love draft. But it's like, is
24:41
Speaker 1: nothing sacred to you? Do you have to own everything?
24:44
Speaker 1: Do you have to steal from everyone their ideas for marketing?
24:49
Speaker 1: So I did. I made a point not to watch
24:52
Speaker 1: any of it yesterday.
24:53
Speaker 4: Well, and I do. I do kind of love though
24:55
Speaker 4: that the NFL, in trying to steal everything, had all
24:58
Speaker 4: of their matchups really kind of suck.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that that's karma.
25:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't I don't think they should change
25:04
Speaker 4: their schedule. Like Christmas was on a Thursday, so there
25:07
Speaker 4: should still be a Thursday night football game.
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Speaker 1: Fine, but you.
25:10
Speaker 4: Don't need the other two in the day. I just
25:13
Speaker 4: don't think you do.
25:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, And if you're not a
25:16
Speaker 1: basketball fan, you want to watch basketball, But I mean,
25:18
Speaker 1: I think the holiday should be for family anyway, and
25:21
Speaker 1: then everything else should be in the background, whether it's
25:24
Speaker 1: a movie or whether it's a sporting event or whatever
25:27
Speaker 1: the case may be. I mean, I'm not sitting there
25:30
Speaker 1: keeping score of NBA games, you know, during Christmas. You know,
25:34
Speaker 1: even as a kid, it was you know, it was
25:36
Speaker 1: about your presence and family and fudge and things of
25:39
Speaker 1: that nature. And it was just sort of a background thing,
25:42
Speaker 1: kind of went with the fabric of the holiday.
25:44
Speaker 3: Uh.
25:45
Speaker 1: The NFL doesn't do that for me, and and I
25:48
Speaker 1: think I'm put off, yeah, trying at every turn to
25:56
Speaker 1: ruin things that I think are outside of their comfort zone.
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Speaker 4: Well, and it just seems like in doing it, they
26:03
Speaker 4: don't have any respect for the other sports organizations. And
26:07
Speaker 4: that's the sad part because all of these organizations should
26:11
Speaker 4: want success for all of them, because the more sports
26:14
Speaker 4: fans you have, the more success for all the sports, right,
26:17
Speaker 4: and you should have you know, basketball fans who might
26:20
Speaker 4: be casual football fans and vice versa, and then the
26:23
Speaker 4: sport grows, right, you get people to kind of glom on,
26:26
Speaker 4: and the NFL wants not even people to glom on.
26:29
Speaker 4: They just want people to be immersed. It's like it's
26:33
Speaker 4: got to be every single moment of every single.
26:35
Speaker 1: Day, every opportunity, we gotta we got to steal you
26:40
Speaker 1: away from something else you would be doing so that
26:43
Speaker 1: you feel forced to watch our product.
26:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then to add on that, you're putting those
26:48
Speaker 4: two games on Netflix. That's super annoying.
26:50
Speaker 1: Well, if if they won the ratings war against the NBA,
26:53
Speaker 1: then man, there's just really nothing any sport can do. No,
26:57
Speaker 1: You're going to put on three crappy games on Christmas
27:01
Speaker 1: Day and try to steal from the NBA and try
27:04
Speaker 1: to steal from family time and try to steal from
27:07
Speaker 1: everything else, and if you still end up dominating, I mean,
27:10
Speaker 1: then we are just we've just given.
27:13
Speaker 4: In victims of the NFL.
27:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have just completely given into the entire process,
27:18
Speaker 1: and it will just encourage them to take more. So
27:21
Speaker 1: I'm kind of hoping that the NBA won yesterday. I
27:24
Speaker 1: doubt that it did, but we'll get the ratings. Maybe
27:28
Speaker 1: they're already out, But I'm kind of hoping that the
27:31
Speaker 1: NFL took it on the chin yesterday. And I hope
27:34
Speaker 1: that those streaming services took it on the chin yesterday,
27:36
Speaker 1: but I doubt it.
27:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be fun, though.
27:39
Speaker 1: It would be fun all right, coming up next as
27:42
Speaker 1: we get ready for our opponent. They've got a chance
27:45
Speaker 1: to win the division this weekend, and I'm not even
27:48
Speaker 1: sure if they're good. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
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Speaker 1: you Millen coming dot at nine o'clock Mike Sando is
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Speaker 1: gonna join us on a Friday our NFL Insider at
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Speaker 1: nine thirty today and we've got your Friday Oho, your
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Speaker 1: eight top stories of the day to wrap up the week.
28:18
Speaker 1: And it has been a long week for me. I
28:20
Speaker 1: mean he worked at yeah yeah hour, Yes exactly, I
28:28
Speaker 1: have really put in the hour. Yeah. You this week
28:33
Speaker 1: almost too all almost too where We're gonna get there,
28:37
Speaker 1: you are, I'm gonna persevere.
28:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're strong, I have sticktuitiveness.
28:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. So we'll get through today
28:45
Speaker 1: and then they'll get a much deserved couple days off,
28:48
Speaker 1: thank good. Here this weekend, the Seahawks will be taking
28:52
Speaker 1: on the Carolina Panthers. More on that coming up with
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Speaker 1: the Friday OCHO. But this has become a consistent theme
29:00
Speaker 1: on this show, and that is that, man, you want
29:04
Speaker 1: to talk about a strange football team that we're facing
29:06
Speaker 1: on Sunday. They've got a chance to wrap up their division.
29:12
Speaker 1: We don't. I mean, there is a scenario that plays
29:16
Speaker 1: out that, yeah, San Francisco and the Rams losing, we
29:19
Speaker 1: win in the Division is ours. But the scenarios makes
29:23
Speaker 1: a lot more sense for Carolina that they can be
29:27
Speaker 1: division champs with Tampa Bay losing against Miami, and if
29:31
Speaker 1: they knock off the Seahawks then and they're playing at
29:35
Speaker 1: the exact same time, they could know in front of
29:37
Speaker 1: their fans they could win the division against the Seahawks tomorrow.
29:42
Speaker 1: And there's no chance that we could have that because
29:46
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers don't play until Sunday night. The
29:49
Speaker 1: Rams don't play until Monday night, so we don't have
29:54
Speaker 1: that scenario. We're not going to walk off the field
29:57
Speaker 1: in Carolina on Sunday, even with a win, being division
30:01
Speaker 1: champions just not going to happen where there is a
30:04
Speaker 1: chance that Carolina can have that feeling. And it seems strange.
30:07
Speaker 1: I mean, not only is there a four win gap
30:10
Speaker 1: between the two teams, Carolina really doesn't do anything well.
30:16
Speaker 1: They're not top ten in anything. No, they don't have
30:19
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback, they don't have a top ten receiver,
30:22
Speaker 1: they don't have a top ten running back. I don't
30:25
Speaker 1: think they have a top ten defender. And yet they've
30:28
Speaker 1: figured out a way to possibly win the division Sunday
30:33
Speaker 1: with a win over the Seahawks. I mean, they started
30:35
Speaker 1: off one to three, They had a three game winning
30:38
Speaker 1: streak that kind of turned around their fortunes, all against
30:41
Speaker 1: bad teams Miami, Dallas and the Jets. And ever since that,
30:45
Speaker 1: they've not even put together back to back wins ever
30:47
Speaker 1: since that.
30:48
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
30:49
Speaker 1: That's back on October nineteenth. October. We've had Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
30:56
Speaker 1: All since that time. Yeah, they've gone three major holidays
31:00
Speaker 1: since they've won back to back games or suffered back
31:05
Speaker 1: to back losses. Yeah, they've just alternated wins ever since
31:09
Speaker 1: Week number seventeen, it's crazy, or week number seven, I
31:12
Speaker 1: should say. They have good wins. They've beaten the Rams,
31:16
Speaker 1: they've beaten the Buccaneers in a game they had to have.
31:18
Speaker 1: They beat the Green Bay Packers by three points. They
31:22
Speaker 1: beat Atlanta when they were we thought they were good,
31:25
Speaker 1: by thirty points. And yet they have these terrible losses.
31:29
Speaker 1: Two losses to the New Orleans Saints. They have been
31:32
Speaker 1: outscored by fifty points so far this season. First place team.
31:37
Speaker 1: That is minus fifty minus. Just to put that into perspective,
31:43
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are minus fifty two. You know how bad
31:46
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have been this year. The Chiefs are plus thirty.
31:50
Speaker 4: Six, and they're not good.
31:52
Speaker 1: They're not good at all, and yet that's how statistically
31:57
Speaker 1: shoddy the Carolina Panthers have been and there's not even
32:02
Speaker 1: like a rhyme or reason to it. They lost by
32:05
Speaker 1: twenty nine points to New England, where they held Remandre
32:09
Speaker 1: Stevenson to just thirty eight yards rushing as the Patriots
32:13
Speaker 1: leading rusher. But then they lost by thirty one to
32:15
Speaker 1: Buffalo and James Cook went for two hundred.
32:17
Speaker 4: And sixteen just totally makes sense.
32:20
Speaker 1: They beat the Falcons by three because Bryce Young threw
32:24
Speaker 1: for four hundred and forty eight yards, but they also
32:28
Speaker 1: beat the Falcons by thirty even though we only threw
32:31
Speaker 1: for one hundred and twenty, Like, yeah, what a weird
32:36
Speaker 1: ass team we're facing.
32:37
Speaker 4: There's no possible way to try to predict what they're
32:40
Speaker 4: going to come out looking like.
32:42
Speaker 1: They're not going to come out good hopefully not, I mean,
32:46
Speaker 1: but they are certainly better at home. All of those wins,
32:49
Speaker 1: those good wins that I mapped out all home, every
32:52
Speaker 1: single one of them were at home. If it's close,
32:56
Speaker 1: they figure out a way, they figure out the play
32:58
Speaker 1: to make so if they can and keep it close
33:01
Speaker 1: at home, despite being a seven point underdog, they've proven
33:05
Speaker 1: this year thing beat anybody, including the Los Angeles Rams,
33:07
Speaker 1: who were flying high at that point in the season.
33:11
Speaker 1: So they certainly are capable of victory. They're not anyone
33:15
Speaker 1: to overlook. But it's just hard to predict a path
33:19
Speaker 1: to victory for them, even though I acknowledge they when
33:24
Speaker 1: they find when they get a scent of a win,
33:26
Speaker 1: they're pretty good at getting home. But it's just really
33:31
Speaker 1: difficult to think that this team could upset us the
33:35
Speaker 1: way that we're playing right now. And how would they
33:38
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, who's got the key to this
33:43
Speaker 1: victory for the Carolina Panthers. Because they're inconsistent at running it,
33:47
Speaker 1: they're inconsistent at throwing it. They're inconsistent it's stopping the run.
33:50
Speaker 1: They're inconsistent at stopping the pass. They're not necessarily exceptional
33:55
Speaker 1: at special teams like the Seahawks are, but they do
33:59
Speaker 1: figure out ways to win games. And they're gonna have
34:02
Speaker 1: everything on the line. They it's their super Bowl the
34:05
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. I mean, they're not gonna win
34:07
Speaker 1: four straight games in the playoffs and win the super Bowl.
34:10
Speaker 1: If they win a divisional title, they're gonna view this
34:13
Speaker 1: as a highly successful season. It's a cigar smoking kind
34:16
Speaker 1: of Sunday evening, feet on the desk, celebrating all that
34:21
Speaker 1: we accomplish. Dave Canalist moment. If they can pull this
34:24
Speaker 1: off on Sunday, Seahawks don't have that. Seahawks are gonna
34:27
Speaker 1: be like, let's take a shower, get on the plane
34:31
Speaker 1: and see if the Bears can knock off the forty
34:34
Speaker 1: nine ers.
34:34
Speaker 4: I mean then I would support that.
34:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll take that too, all right. Friday, Ocho's
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Speaker 1: next Your eight Top Stories of the day on Sports
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