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#1090 - Putting Mum on Your Resume [R] · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: It's the Happy Family's podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just
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  Speaker 2: wants answers now, Kylie.
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  Speaker 1: We keep on seeing it in the news.
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  Speaker 3: Cost of living is biting more and more families finding
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  Speaker 3: themselves in this situation where both parents need to work,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of mums in particular are kind of saying,
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  Speaker 3: this is getting tricky.
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  Speaker 1: I don't all I've done for the last little while
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  Speaker 1: has been a mum.
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  Speaker 3: How do I put mum on my resume and get
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  Speaker 3: taken seriously? Just recently there was an article on the
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  Speaker 3: ABC website where jess On talked about precisely this challenge.
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  Speaker 3: She talked about how even becoming a mum, she wasn't
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  Speaker 3: sure if she wanted to be a mom, wasn't sure
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  Speaker 3: if motherhood was for her, but then once she had
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  Speaker 3: that child, there was nowhere else, nowhere else that she
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  Speaker 3: wanted to be. We've watched that happen with our own daughter.
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  Speaker 2: Having six daughters of my own, I know that feeling
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  Speaker 2: like you think that you're going to be happier outside
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  Speaker 2: of the home, but once you've got children who pull
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  Speaker 2: at your heart strings, all you want to do is
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  Speaker 2: be with them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course, how our eldest daughter has made
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  Speaker 3: us grandparents. She's got her baby with her husband, and she.
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  Speaker 2: Thought that she would spend a lot of time outside
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  Speaker 2: of the home being the bread winner while her husband
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  Speaker 2: stayed at home.
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  Speaker 3: That was their initial plan. Like literally, he was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'll stay at home, I'll look after the baby. You
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  Speaker 3: get She still would.
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  Speaker 2: I think he still would, but she know I was
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  Speaker 2: not giving up that.
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  Speaker 3: Role any one, no, no, no, nowhere else that I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to be. Jess Ong said that, and I mean
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  Speaker 3: there's a whole lot of research from the Straining Institute
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  Speaker 3: of Family Studies that points in that direction, especially for
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  Speaker 3: new mums. I love what jess said in her article.
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  Speaker 3: She said, to not have to outsource care is of
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  Speaker 3: course a privilege full of tender moments, but it's also isolating, relentless,
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  Speaker 3: and completely undervalued. And this is what I want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about in today's podcast, because there's more and more
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  Speaker 3: mums are saying, oh gosh, I do need to get
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  Speaker 3: out to work, But what do I put on my regume.
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  Speaker 3: We've been there, We've done something about it. So here's
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  Speaker 3: what Jessong said on an Instagram post, and she wrote
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  Speaker 3: about this In this ABC article, she said, I explained
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  Speaker 3: in my Instagram post that I'd updated my CV and
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  Speaker 3: decided to harness all of my ruminations and include being
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  Speaker 3: a mother, because why not. She says, I haven't disappeared,
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  Speaker 3: but in the eyes of the system and the payroll,
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  Speaker 3: I have yet. Skills and talents that I've cultivated over
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  Speaker 3: the last thirty nine years are put to good use
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  Speaker 3: and challenged every single day.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as the CV goes, it's almost like
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  Speaker 2: you've stopped learning, you've stopped growing, you've stopped progressing, because
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  Speaker 2: you don't have a piece of paper that suggests that
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  Speaker 2: either you've gone to school and studied and furthered your
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  Speaker 2: education or you've actually worked for high flying business owners.
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  Speaker 3: So a few years ago, you were having a conversation
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  Speaker 3: with somebody in your favorite retail outlet hashtag not sponsored.
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  Speaker 3: But you love adairs right like anything to do with
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  Speaker 3: home furnishings.
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  Speaker 2: You know you're a frequence shopper when you're on first
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  Speaker 2: name terms with the boss of the storm.
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  Speaker 3: And all of the sales assistants as well. So you're
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  Speaker 3: in a dairs, you're having a chat and she says, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we've got a position going you should apply, and you
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  Speaker 3: came home and said, they've offered me a job, but
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  Speaker 3: I have to apply.
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  Speaker 1: What am I supposed to put on my regume? I
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  Speaker 1: haven't worked for over.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty years, to which I replied, you haven't had paid
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  Speaker 3: work for over twenty years. You've worked your tail off
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  Speaker 3: for the last twenty years. We need to put that
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  Speaker 3: you've been a mum in your resume, which is pretty
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  Speaker 3: much what jess On from the ABC said. I wrote
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  Speaker 3: down that I was a mum, and I put those
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  Speaker 3: skills in and so you and I sat down and
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  Speaker 3: wrote a resume that had all of your mum duties
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  Speaker 3: as a reason why you should get this job in
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  Speaker 3: retail at Adairs, and I thought, in today's conversation, because
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  Speaker 3: so many people are going through it, we should chat
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  Speaker 3: about what you put into that resume so that you
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  Speaker 3: could score the job that you really really wanted to have.
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  Speaker 2: I love that we were able to have so much
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  Speaker 2: fun with this because at the time I was just
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  Speaker 2: looking at going as if they're going to be interested
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  Speaker 2: in me.
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  Speaker 3: You've rolled your eyes and you said, no, we can't
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  Speaker 3: say that I'm a mum, and I said.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, you are.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to detail everything that you do in your
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  Speaker 3: work experience as a mum. So I said, you're a CEO,
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  Speaker 3: you're an operations manager, you're a human resources manager. There's
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  Speaker 3: so much going on, and then we started to list
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  Speaker 3: everything that a CEO would do that you would do.
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  Speaker 3: Have a listen to this list.
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  Speaker 2: Overseeing all managerial aspects of life for six children who
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  Speaker 2: require significant levels of oversight and direction. Let's be honest
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  Speaker 2: with my husband, it's seven people.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe that we put that in.
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  Speaker 2: Planning strategy and policy decisions for the team based on
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  Speaker 2: values and mission, coupled with short and long term goals
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  Speaker 2: via weekly management meetings and quarterly strategy sessions.
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  Speaker 3: So this is legit. You and I have a weekly
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  Speaker 3: family meeting and we have quarterly strategy sessions as a
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  Speaker 3: couple to make our families on track. So you were saying,
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  Speaker 3: as a CEO, this is what I do. I have
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  Speaker 3: these regular meetings and I oversee all of these aspects.
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  Speaker 3: Carry on, though, because the CEO does more, and you
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  Speaker 3: write down another handful of roles and responsibilities in that CEO.
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  Speaker 2: Outline, delegating and overseeing all staff activities maintaining client and
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  Speaker 2: employee relationships via an extremely complex calendar involving multiple moving parts.
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  Speaker 1: It's so brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: Building alliances and partnerships with other organizations, in other.
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  Speaker 1: Words, organizing playdates with other families.
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  Speaker 2: Development of a culture that promotes performance, excellence and builds
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  Speaker 2: team morale. Providing conflict resolution strategies wherever there is conflict
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  Speaker 2: between tricky personalities on the team, and providing inspired leadership
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  Speaker 2: for the team.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm reviewing this with you right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching it as you read this, and I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 3: we did this without chat GPT like this. This is
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  Speaker 3: a really really creative, really fun resume. That's the CEO role,
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  Speaker 3: but we also included OPS manager and human resources manager.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you go through the five duties of a
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  Speaker 3: mum being an OPS manager.
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  Speaker 2: Being responsible for intricate logistics operations from five am to
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  Speaker 2: team PM and later for a large team, managing a
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  Speaker 2: complex schedule for eight people, conducting analysis and improvement of
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  Speaker 2: all organizational processes and workflows, working to improve quality, productivity
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  Speaker 2: and efficiency in the team, and occupational health and safety
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  Speaker 2: responsibilities for the entire team.
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  Speaker 1: I just love that one.
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  Speaker 3: And the human resources manager we put three things down
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  Speaker 3: for that as.
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  Speaker 2: Well, determining and establishing training procedures for the team, developing
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  Speaker 2: team roles for each new member of the team based
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  Speaker 2: on individual development, training and capability. Love this and capacity
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  Speaker 2: building of team members.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, we're having a lo of fun with this.
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  Speaker 3: But as we sat down and worked through this, you
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  Speaker 3: and I essentially said, all of these things that you
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  Speaker 3: do with your kids, you do this with adults in
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  Speaker 3: a team environment. So let's write it down in a nutshell.
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  Speaker 3: Running a large family requires you, as a mum to
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  Speaker 3: learn and master an extensive range of skills that are
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  Speaker 3: really tremendously transferable to the workplace. The maturity and the wisdom,
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  Speaker 3: the experience that you get from being a mum is
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  Speaker 3: so valuable. And that's just a small taste of the
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  Speaker 3: various things that we could write down that represent your capabilities.
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  Speaker 3: So that's part one of what we jotted down, But
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  Speaker 3: then we added some more.
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  Speaker 2: So over the years, I have done extensive volunteering within
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  Speaker 2: our church organization, and I added to my resume CEO
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  Speaker 2: of a children's organization, president of a women's organization, and
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  Speaker 2: the president of a young women's organization. And within those
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  Speaker 2: I outlined the different areas that I had worked and
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  Speaker 2: trained in to help each of those organizations flourish.
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  Speaker 3: And the million dollar question, well it wasn't really a
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  Speaker 3: million dollar question, but it was more of like a
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  Speaker 3: twenty four dollars an hour question, did you get the job?
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  Speaker 2: When I sat down with my boss who wasn't my
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  Speaker 2: boss at the time and we had the interview, she said,
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  Speaker 2: can I just tell you that your resume was the
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  Speaker 2: best resume I have ever read? She said. I sat
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  Speaker 2: down with my partner and we just laughed our heads
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  Speaker 2: as we read everything that you've achieved, and she said,
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  Speaker 2: and the reality is, yes, you have. You are doing
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  Speaker 2: all of those things on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 3: I want to go back to the statement that jess
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  Speaker 3: On made. She said, being a stay at home mum
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  Speaker 3: is full of wonderful, tender moments, but it's also isolating, relentless,
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  Speaker 3: and completely undervalued.
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  Speaker 1: But when you look at what that.
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  Speaker 3: Unpaid work taught you and how you were able to
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  Speaker 3: put that into a resume turn it into something of value,
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  Speaker 3: you got that job because being a mum, being involved,
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  Speaker 3: getting your systems right in the family, it teaches you
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  Speaker 3: so much. And if I recall correctly, you were pretty
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  Speaker 3: highly valued on the team, won't you like the number
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  Speaker 3: one salesperson or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I was for a while for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If nothing else, what it showed my future employer was
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  Speaker 2: that I was able to look outside the box and
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  Speaker 2: really get creative about how I might utilize my talents
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  Speaker 2: and gifts. And I think that was ultimately what got
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  Speaker 2: me the job.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so jess on to wrap things up, she said this.
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  Speaker 3: I returned to part time paid work six months ago,
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  Speaker 3: and since then I've started correcting people when they ask
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  Speaker 3: how work is going, gently interjecting with paid work. You mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's not to make anyone uncomfortable, but I need to
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  Speaker 3: agitate the narrative because until I became a mother, I
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  Speaker 3: never really gave any of this much thought either. I
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  Speaker 3: never thought about the little value society places on the
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  Speaker 3: biggest job of raising its future, about how the label
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  Speaker 3: stay at home mum diminishes and simplifies the hours of
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  Speaker 3: never ending and complex, unpaid work. Now we're going to
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  Speaker 3: share your resume. We'll make a couple of edits and
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  Speaker 3: alterations so that it's not too personal, but we're going
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  Speaker 3: to share your resume at happy families dot com dot
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  Speaker 3: Au and on our social media pages, because I reckon
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  Speaker 3: there's going to be a lot of mums who are
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  Speaker 3: going to look at this and say, hm, I can
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  Speaker 3: take this, I can tweak this, and I can make
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  Speaker 3: myself look like I'm presentable to an employer, because as
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  Speaker 3: much as I want to stay at home, I need
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  Speaker 3: to work at the moment because everything costs so much. Kylie,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's inspiration. I think it's awesome what you did.
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  Speaker 2: The thing that really stood out to me as I
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  Speaker 2: went through that process was when we started it, I
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  Speaker 2: felt so unsure of myself and I felt like I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have anything to offer. But as we went through
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  Speaker 2: the process of pinpointing all of the various skills that
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  Speaker 2: I had learned and developed over our twenty plus years
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  Speaker 2: of parenting, it gave me the confidence to walk in
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  Speaker 2: there and say I actually have something to offer. It
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  Speaker 2: was powerful. It was really powerful.
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  Speaker 3: The Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin Rowland.
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