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Ump banned for betting, Dipoto defends M’s, Edmonds barks at Cards · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: He can't really say that he's tipping on the air,
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  Speaker 1: so you're like, well, they kind of know what's coming,
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  Speaker 1: and you try to gloss around it without actually saying
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  Speaker 1: he's telling him what's coming.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get right into this madness so that
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  Speaker 2: we have ten minutes for it. So, because it sucks,
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  Speaker 2: we lost a good ump today, let's charge the damn
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  Speaker 2: mount charge about And when I say good, what he
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  Speaker 2: did was definitely shady, but his performance on the diamond
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  Speaker 2: was exceptional. One of the best umpires calling balls and
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  Speaker 2: strikes is not going to be part of Major League
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  Speaker 2: Baseball anymore.
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  Speaker 3: He has a chance for reinsavement.
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  Speaker 2: He can apply in twenty twenty six, but for now,
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  Speaker 2: MLB fired umpire Pat Hoburg after he was sharing a
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  Speaker 2: betting account sports betting account with a buddy of his
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  Speaker 2: and they placed a ton of bets. Pat claims he
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  Speaker 2: didn't bet on baseball. You're sharing the account with his friend.
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  Speaker 2: The friend stays over at his place twenty to thirty
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  Speaker 2: times a year. Hoburg made five hundred and twenty nine bets,
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  Speaker 2: putting down seven hundred K that those two on their
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  Speaker 2: shared account they won on baseball bets they lost and
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  Speaker 2: everything else. MLB obviously did a super thorough investigation. Pat
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  Speaker 2: gave in his phone, here we go, I.
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  Speaker 3: Want to just lay out a few details. AJ, I
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  Speaker 3: know you're ready.
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  Speaker 2: And then they didn't find any connection with Pat placing
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  Speaker 2: baseball bets. The way they caught him was interesting. Last January,
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  Speaker 2: they had a chat right they go over things with
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  Speaker 2: the Yumps and said, hey, if you're betting, you can
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  Speaker 2: bet on non baseball. That's okay, that's allowed, but you
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  Speaker 2: better make sure it's on your own account, because if
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  Speaker 2: someone else is your account they can bet on baseball,
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  Speaker 2: then you're in trouble. And he claims he was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh crap, now I have to start my own account,
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  Speaker 2: not be sharing an account with my friend. So he
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  Speaker 2: started his own account. And then, because sports betting is
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  Speaker 2: regulated these days, we were actually be able to catch
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  Speaker 2: this whole situation. In the past, this would never be caught.
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  Speaker 2: So we find out Pat's been sharing an account with
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  Speaker 2: a friend who is betting on baseball. Obviously they spent
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  Speaker 2: a ton of time together. They'd exchange the money in person.
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  Speaker 2: They would communicate on a super shady messaging app, although
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  Speaker 2: it's a very popular one. Super Shady it's where you
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  Speaker 2: do like drug deals and stuff like that. I know
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  Speaker 2: it well, it's where like international terrorists communicate. And then
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  Speaker 2: they deleted all of that. So with that said, age
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: M let's dig into you, Scott. Why are you, lady,
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  Speaker 1: app where drug deals and terrorists are? Maybe we should
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  Speaker 1: have him, We'll be.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, let's dig into me. I would never download that crap. No,
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  Speaker 2: that's why I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: You just said you use it? Rewind He said he
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  Speaker 4: knows about it. He said, I didn't use it, Dude.
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  Speaker 3: I would never. I would never touch that crap.
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  Speaker 2: I know about it, though, and I didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: even give them love that the name of the company.
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  Speaker 4: Oh you have a friend that uses it for you?
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  Speaker 4: Got it? Okay? Sounds sounds like Pat Hoberg.
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  Speaker 3: You're making don't bet on baseball.
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  Speaker 4: Don't bet on baseball. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: This is why Pete Rose can't get in the Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame. This is why certain people are Joe Jackson
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  Speaker 1: some of the black socks he ho don't bet on baseball.
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  Speaker 1: My biggest question, this whole thing, this makes sense. Why
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  Speaker 1: because Hobert wasn't in the World Series last year and
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  Speaker 1: he was graded as one of the best. It makes
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  Speaker 1: sense now, But my question is why is he sharing it?
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  Speaker 1: Why is he sharing an account? Why would you share
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  Speaker 1: an account with somebody. Isn't that like the first thing
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  Speaker 1: you're taught, like about banks, and about your cell phone
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  Speaker 1: and about all your shady apps that Scott uses. Don't
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  Speaker 1: share the account information, don't share the password, don't share anything.
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  Speaker 1: Why is he sharing an app and then the only
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  Speaker 1: one on baseball? I know that he Pat Hobert didn't
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  Speaker 1: bet on baseball, but I mean if his friend messaged
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  Speaker 1: him on a shady app, it's like, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think about this umpire? And then he's like, oh, the
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  Speaker 1: umpire might not be blah blah. I mean not saying
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  Speaker 1: this happened. I'm just saying, like, it's just it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of coincidence that lined.
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  Speaker 2: Up quick caveat just so that we don't have any
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  Speaker 2: trolls that are picking at any parts of what we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about. He wasn't in the World Series because he
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  Speaker 2: was investigated starting early last season. So they took him
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  Speaker 2: off and said we're gonna investigate why.
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  Speaker 1: Now we know why, because normally he's one of the
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  Speaker 1: best umpires. He's the guy that got one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: and he normally is one of the highest rated guys,
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  Speaker 1: and it was weird. I remember looking at umpire sinking win.
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  Speaker 1: Hoberg is not there. I wonder why now we know?
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  Speaker 3: Now we know, so.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't see any influence in the eight games where
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  Speaker 2: bets were placed that Hoburg was involved in. They were
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  Speaker 2: not profitable overall on those eight games, and again he
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  Speaker 2: claims he wasn't placing those bets. They have technology to
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  Speaker 2: be able to see who's placing it, right, that's part
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  Speaker 2: of this. But regardless, crats, I don't care. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're sharing an account with a friend who's beending on baseball, Like,
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  Speaker 2: what are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, are you.
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  Speaker 2: That out of touch that you don't know how this works?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're either in the stone age and you
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  Speaker 2: don't understand technology. And then I'm like, okay, then the
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  Speaker 2: one thing you can understand is don't be involved in betting.
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  Speaker 2: So if your friend says he wants to open a
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  Speaker 2: betting account and share it with you, say, I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand technology and I'm not supposed to be involved in that.
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  Speaker 2: And even if you're just doing non baseball stuff, sounds
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  Speaker 2: like a bad idea. So I don't care if you're
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  Speaker 2: twenty or ninety. It's just a mistake that to me
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  Speaker 2: lines up with not knowing a law. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: got caught. You can say whatever you want. It didn't
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  Speaker 2: really influence much, but it's a mistake that has to
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  Speaker 2: be punishable this way, and I would be surprised.
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  Speaker 3: If he's allowed back in.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that people can be misconstrued.
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  Speaker 4: Is like, well, they didn't really tell us as baseball
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  Speaker 4: players not to do that, or they didn't really tell
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  Speaker 4: us we shouldn't be there. Yeah, I get it. It's
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  Speaker 4: probably common sense gambling and all the base all in baseball,
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  Speaker 4: for umpires, for players, for front office, it's a mandatory
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  Speaker 4: meeting that you cannot bet on baseball. And when the
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  Speaker 4: site started coming in and started being regulated, it made
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  Speaker 4: it a lot easier for guys because they could on
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  Speaker 4: they could gamble on other sports, and it made it simple,
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  Speaker 4: made it regulated. But this is not every single spring
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  Speaker 4: training this has talked about whether you are a minor
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  Speaker 4: league umpire having your first minor league meetings, or you're
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  Speaker 4: a big league umpire, they're all having these meetings and
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  Speaker 4: it's clear as day you cannot be involved with it
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  Speaker 4: at all, even to the point where I've sent I've
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  Speaker 4: sent my buddies texts when I was playing and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I can't. I can't be like I can't respond to
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  Speaker 4: what you just said, because that would be construed as
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  Speaker 4: me as me, you know, manipulating the game. And they're like, oh, sorry,
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  Speaker 4: I totally. I was like, I just have to say,
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  Speaker 4: like I have to say that I can't. You can't.
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  Speaker 4: You just can't have anything to do with it, and
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  Speaker 4: he broke that trust. I have a hard time seeing
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  Speaker 4: him getting back in also in twenty six, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason you would share is potentially because you're
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  Speaker 2: in a state where you can't legally bet, so you
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  Speaker 2: share an account with a friend who's in a state
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  Speaker 2: where they can bet. And unfortunately not every state has
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  Speaker 2: it regulated yet.
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  Speaker 1: But you've got to make sure that you're you got
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  Speaker 1: to make sure your friend isn't betting on baseball, like
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  Speaker 1: you can't. This is just a chance you can't take.
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  Speaker 1: We all have to make choices in our life. We
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  Speaker 1: have to deal with the consequences. This was a bad
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  Speaker 1: choice by a good guy that was a good umpire
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  Speaker 1: and now he's probably done.
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  Speaker 4: I just you can't bet on baseball. Just stop it.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone says Pete Rolls should be in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 4: You cannot bet on baseball because it can manipulate the game.
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  Speaker 4: We just saw a thing with the NBA. Rosier was
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  Speaker 4: Terry Rozier investigator.
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  Speaker 1: Right now they're investing gating some college things from it,
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  Speaker 1: like show Hey and Epe that whole thing. Don't have
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  Speaker 1: friends be able to have access to your account, and
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  Speaker 1: if they have it, you got to tell him to
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  Speaker 1: get the hell off and close it up because if
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  Speaker 1: something like this happens, it's your life.
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  Speaker 4: It gets affected.
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  Speaker 1: So don't have people on your account and don't bet
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  Speaker 1: on baseball.
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  Speaker 4: It's not that hard.
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  Speaker 2: It's like if you learned your house to a friend
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  Speaker 2: who's a drug dealer and then you got in trouble. Well,
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  Speaker 2: your friend's a criminal and you gave him your house
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  Speaker 2: to run a drug operation. I mean, you got to
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  Speaker 2: know your friends, and if you're concerned about something, you
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  Speaker 2: got to be able to tell them. No Aj went
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  Speaker 2: over this couple of weeks ago where he's not a
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  Speaker 2: big stay at my house kind of person. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I've gotten the ask before I'm away from an apartment.
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  Speaker 2: Hey can I stay there? Depends who you are, because
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  Speaker 2: if it's somebody who even then no is single and
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  Speaker 2: dating people and I don't know who's coming through, I'm like, nope, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: he can't take that chance you But no.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that part's important.
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  Speaker 2: And also why do more of these stories pop up
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  Speaker 2: lately because it's regulated. I truly believe in that part
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  Speaker 2: of it. This to act like this hasn't happened for
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty years is insane. It's just that
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  Speaker 2: people can get caught now because not all of it's
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  Speaker 2: being done by illegal books in the Cayman Islands.
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  Speaker 3: Right. If this happened in the past, this would be
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  Speaker 3: very difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, it's readily available listen as a show
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  Speaker 1: that we know where we stand with betting and what
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  Speaker 1: they are to us as sponsorship wise. Right, it's become
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  Speaker 1: the biggest thing in sports right now and kind of
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  Speaker 1: in America is I mean, things just came across my
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  Speaker 1: iPad here that was at one point three five billion
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  Speaker 1: dollars they're talking about is going to be bet possibly
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  Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl this weekend through legal action. Who
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: knows how many illegal things are going on, right, You
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  Speaker 1: just have to be smarter, and you just can't do it,
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  Speaker 1: especially while you're playing or involved at all in the game.
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  Speaker 1: You just can't bet on the games, and you can't
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  Speaker 1: have someone else bet on the games. It's just listen,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Everyone's gonna say, oh, well, it's because
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  Speaker 1: you know this is sponsored by this and this and this,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna get mad at them. But you just
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  Speaker 1: got to be smarter as a player and somebody involved
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  Speaker 1: in baseball that you just can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: It's why, though, I mean whatever, you can say, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we have, you know, betting sponsors like cool, we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about this, that's why we're doing it.
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  Speaker 3: I've always been steadfast on this.
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  Speaker 2: My track record even goes back to asking the Commissioner
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  Speaker 2: of Baseball out of town Hall about betting and when
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  Speaker 2: the legalization's gonna come, because everyone I knew was betting
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  Speaker 2: on these illegal books. And I was always thinking, if
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  Speaker 2: you're some random college hoops player at some D three
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  Speaker 2: school and someone's gonna pay you off and it would
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  Speaker 2: be your play. I'm like, how is this ever gonna
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  Speaker 2: get caught? The only way to be able to regulate
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: that there's suddenly a ton of handle going pushed towards
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  Speaker 2: a random college game, which is an investigation going on
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  Speaker 2: right now, is if it's regulated. If it's not regulated,
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  Speaker 2: like in California, this crap can go on. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: big on that part. And again back to the top.
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  Speaker 2: Sucks to lose a good ump because we had a
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: lot of umps that struggle behind the plate. This dude
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  Speaker 2: was good, you know, like, if you look at this,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, dumn, it couldn't it have been? And go
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  Speaker 2: down the line if you stuff that small in balls
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  Speaker 2: and strikes And Pap had the funniest tweet too, He
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh crap. He's like, does this mean Angel
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: Hernandez is coming back and taking his back on fire lately?
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  Speaker 4: Angel catch a sprays. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But it was good. It was good, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, thoughts, questions, concerns, we can address them. But
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  Speaker 2: wanted to take this one full on and obviously be like,
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  Speaker 2: come on, I mean, way too much shadiness here and
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  Speaker 2: sucks even if you thought you were innocent. You made
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  Speaker 2: the mistake that affects the integrity of the sport.
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  Speaker 3: So we talked on it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, if I give you my car, Scott, and
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  Speaker 1: you're pulled over with drugs and guns and guns in
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  Speaker 1: the car and you're driving my car, guess guess what
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get somehow brought into it, even though I
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  Speaker 1: had nothing to.
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  Speaker 4: Do with it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know. You just asked me to bar
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: on my car. You're going to an edm next thing.
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  Speaker 1: I know you got drugs and molly and all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of crazy stuff in there, and I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know anything about it. He just has to borrow my car.
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  Speaker 1: But you had a great time on the way. Now
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  Speaker 1: we're both going to jail. I mean, it's always the
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  Speaker 1: thing when people get pulled over. How many times we see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, cop recordings where they're like body cam where
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  Speaker 1: they're like, it's not my car, some my stuff, it's
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  Speaker 1: not my car, officer.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you were the one in the car with it,
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: and the guy owning the car then gets brought into it.
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  Speaker 4: So you know what I what I say a long
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  Speaker 4: time ago, check your junk. We'll protect your junk too.
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  Speaker 4: It's not okay.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. My shirt says it. It's not okay.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll leave everyone with this AJ Can I borrow
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  Speaker 2: your car?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I don't know. You will borrow a car. You
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: will borrow a car. Will not borrow my car.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: I'm a known car bar. It's true. You're driving sticks
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  Speaker 3: around the country. You only have stick cars. No, you don't.
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: You can't drive it. You can't drive stick.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: What if I can't stick? If I can, can I
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  Speaker 3: drive it?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 4: You can't know. Every kid should know how to drive stick,
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  Speaker 4: every kid. It should be mandatory.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how we got to this, but this
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  Speaker 2: show is taking place in twenty twenty five, not nineteen
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  Speaker 2: ninety five, so.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to know sick.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: But if I learned it by the time I see
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  Speaker 3: you again, then I'm driving that car. We have signings.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: We have signings.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: People will do them during the breaks because they're a
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: little bit baby, but they're still important. Tim Hill signs
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  Speaker 2: with the New York Yankees one year deal two point
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  Speaker 2: eight five million dollars. There's a club option for three mil.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, he was Dynamite for the Yankees,
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  Speaker 2: the hidden gem found from the Chicago White Sox, And
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  Speaker 2: in my mind, he'll forever be known as the guy
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  Speaker 2: that was not summoned to face Freddie Freeman in Game
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  Speaker 2: one of the World Series.
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  Speaker 4: Right, that will that will stick. I don't know about
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: fans if they'll remember it, but that'll stick in every
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: one of the players crawls, every one of them. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: wants to be out there in those games because it
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: didn't turn out well. Everybody wants to be out there,
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  Speaker 4: Tim Hill, they wanted to play in last pitch. Nestor
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  Speaker 4: Cortez's last pitch as a Yankee was a walk off
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  Speaker 4: homer in the World Series. That sucks.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a reason, didn't they say somebody was Freddy?
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  Speaker 1: Didn't Freddy have good numbers off Tim Hill? There was
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  Speaker 1: a reason. I forget at the time. It was some
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  Speaker 1: crazy thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Tim Hill, did they have numbers for Nestor
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Cortez not pitching for like a month and then just
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: popping up in an enormous moment in Game one of
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: the World Series to face Freddy Freeman? Or was there
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: not a number for that? Whatever? I could be critical
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: We all know there was a lot of group think
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: and analytics going into that decision, and it was the
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: wrong choice.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: It's not as good as Tony LaRusso walking Will Smith,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: the face Max Munsey of the one two count not but.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: At least that was regular season poison.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: This was a world series. Tim Hill's a good picture.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: It's a nice signing for the Yanks to add a
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: little more to the bullpen. And he was a big
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: part of the bullpen last year because they lost Canley.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: So I like this move for them that they bring
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: him back, and seems like a good price for somebody
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: in this kind of role, right, I mean, lefty reliever
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: is not quite the same as it used to be,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: but he can get you know, lefties and right he's out,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: so good for the Yanks.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: And quick poll results here too, how do you show
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: the number eight? Uh?
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: You guys won five on one hand, three on the
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: other sixty one percent. But there are you know, thirty
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: eight percent of you out there that are watching right
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: now that do agree with me where you went.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Double fours unless you're Alfon Seka, then you do this one.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: And he's got that little picky that sticks out. Felix
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Rodriguez had that he had the extra finger, he had
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: the extra digit right here. Did he really Yep, what
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: a name? Felix Rodrigez. Yeah, that's what he said.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: That's what he said.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: That's what he said.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: That's what he said. Dealer's choice on this one. Are
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: you guys cool with Mariners?
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Then?
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Edmunds on these two quotes that popped? Okay, let's go
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: with Jerry Depoto first. We've been following the Mariners quotes
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: and trying to stick up for MS fans, and really
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: all you need to do is read replies to any
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: quotes that have been coming out of Seattle lately to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: understand what's going on there. So Jerry Depoto, fresh sound
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: from yesterday last night, he said, it's been a pretty
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: quiet offseason. I think that's reflective of a team that
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: didn't have a lot, a whole lot of holes to fill.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, we feel great about our farm system,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: we feel great about the stability and our team, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: we feel like our offense doesn't get enough credit for
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the things that they do well. How have they not
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: won the World Series every year? With a statement like that,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: it's one thing to say we've got work to do,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: We've got some weaknesses. But yeah, how do you do
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: fifty four? However you want to do it exactly? Well,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you how the Mariners do it. Now we're perfect.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: We didn't do anything this offseason besides bring on Donovan
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Solano and let loose Josh Rojas Polanco stays. Everything else
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: is the same.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I did like the Arosearina pick up last year at
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: the trade deadline, and Victor Roeblaze turned out nicely for them.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: But that's it.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: That's how you fix the Mariners offense. Worst batting average
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: in baseball last year and a lot of other very
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: very low ranks offensively. We know the ballpark sucks. But
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: let's dive into the quote. AJ why say it in
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: this way? Do you think it's because in the past
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: he has mentioned the budget and he was told not
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: to do that anymore.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Because mass are losing their minds with pitchforks and you
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: have to be a company man.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Yes, and they brought in Kevin Sitzer, Kratz's favorite hitting coach,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: so they're not going to strike out and they're going
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: to hit singles all over the yard. Just get rid
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: of It's going to be amazing. But let me just
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: say this. This was just this was him being a
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: company guy saying we have a really good team.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Plus, he's the GM, he put the team together. He
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: has to say that we have a really good team.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Every team goes into the season saying we got a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: really good team. We got a good shot to make
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'll even here from the Marlins this year.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: You'll hear from the White Sox this year. You'll hear
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: from the Rockies this year. Oh, we're making improvements, we're
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: taking steps in the right direction. Well, the next step
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: for the Mariners is to get to the playoffs and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: make a deep run. Guess what they haven't done and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: forever two thousand and one, I think they won their
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: last playoff series. Maybe it's been forever since they've won one. Right,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: they have to go back and figure it out. They
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: have to take the next step. How do you usually
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: take the next step? We talk about all the time.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You spend some money. Guess what when you're not allowed
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to spend money? Guess what you have to do? You
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: have to say the company line that we're pretty good,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and if you're the GM, you have to try to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: believe it. So good luck to the Mariners. Good luck
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: to the Mariners. Fans can't wait to see how this
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: plays out. I'm gonna I'm gonna say I agree with Jerry.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: They do have the makings of a really good team.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Best starting rotation in baseball, relievers, I mean, they got
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: relievers on on the rack. They're just waiting to call
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: them up from Triple A. They've done an incredible job
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: so pitching bang their set. Then you look at the
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you look at the you look at the starting you
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: know the starting nine. Oh man, you got a all
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: star catcher, all star capable catcher and in cal Raley,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: hitting dingers, great defense behind the plate. JP Crawford stays healthy, awesome,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Julio Roriguez, we know what he can do, what he
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: has done. So you're solid up the middle. But don't
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: don't sit here and say you have a solid team.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: That is, you know, a playoff team. Yes, those dudes
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: are anchoring this team. Add to them, add to them.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder if Jerry Depoto calls Michael Isason is like, hey,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: if you don't add I won't add. Like, we'll just
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: kind of stay with how it is and it'll be cool.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Will suppress salaries for a long time. We've created this,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: we've created this dynasty, and we can stay right around
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: fifty four percent.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: All right. I just want to know this.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: If they're so set with their roster, why is Castillo
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: on the trade block? Why is he the name that
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: we keep hearing? If their their roster is so perfect
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and they don't, why would you even think about trading Castia,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the guy who's been your opening day starter and has
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: been your number one for a while. If everything is
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: so sid then why would you trade them to try
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to get bats and try to get younger and all
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: this like that doesn't make sense. Try to save money
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: so you can go out and sign people. If your
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: roster's perfect, you should have just sat back like this,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and I brought in Donovan Solano and said, we're gonna
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: win the World Series. We're gonna bring the exact same
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: team we brought back last year that didn't make the playoffs,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna win the World Series.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: The approach that's being taken to mess with fans right
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: now is maybe arrogance, maybe ignorance, but definitely not nice
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and fuzzy.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I just I don't get it, Like I understand the
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: restrictions I've also been very very strong in pointing out
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that you need to do something when you're not even
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: a playoff team. You can't just roll out the same roster.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: So that's one issue. But then the way that you're
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: describing why you are not acting at all is true arrogance.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: He is right about one thing. Their farm systems in
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: good shape right now. They've got one of the better
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: ranked farm systems. Baseball America's coming out with their team
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: rankings tomorrow, so I'm excited to see where they rank.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: They will definitely be top ten, maybe top five, maybe
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: even top three. But still, it's just a weird quote Kratz,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: and it screams I've said this before, and now I
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: have to say it differently because we've had a strategy
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: session about it. But it's just like, how does a
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: group get in a room and say, hey, this is
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: how we're going to approach it, instead of saying that
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: we have budget constraints and we can't add let's this
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: time just tell everyone we have the perfect roster already
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and see what happens. Does he think that fans are dumb?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm like, I'm really trying to get inside the
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: psychology of how this makes sense, Like this, this is
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the exact way to just take tons and tons of
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: wood and just chuck it into a fire and just
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: let it rage all over the fan base.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: I think, I think what AJ said is exactly what's
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: going on. We're eight days from spring training, We're eight
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: days from pitchers and catchers. A lot of guys are
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: already down there. Sometimes I think these people in the
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: organization I was, I was guilty of it on different teams.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I played on of drinking the kool aid. I feel
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: like AJ was a much better evaluator of like, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: don't know man, like we suck like and I was
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: I was more in the realm of like, doesn't matter.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: We're gonna go out and win raw and it doesn't
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: mean that one of us was right or wrong. It's
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: just a matter of, like, we are so close. They
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: built all their projections, they say, this is what's going
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: to happen. We'd love where we're at. They're just blinded
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: and they're like focused just in that way, and they're
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: just blinded to the fact that they didn't hit the ball.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: They strike out a ton in a park that doesn't
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: even reward you for hitting the ball that far because
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: it suppresses homers too. So to me, you're like, oh,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: we're gearing up almost a week away, let's go.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really tough look.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And speaking of spring training, actually, I do want to
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: get to this story for a couple of minutes. Jim
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Edmonds is on the outs with the Cardinals. He said,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I haven't really gone down in spring training the last
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: couple of years. It's not fun anymore.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: They don't make you feel like you're wanted indoors in
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: the inner inner circle.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: It's just not the same. It's not the same organization.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: It's not fun to be around. They make it pretty obvious.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Even the security guards like, hey, you know, it might
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: not be a good time.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, fine with me.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I don't need to be in there, you know, I
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: don't if you don't want me to tell you pictures
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: that they're tipping their pictures or this guy's pulling off.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: And I don't really give to bleeps about it. Jim
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Edmonds talking about the current state of the Cardinals, What
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: do you guys think about this in relation to the Cardinals.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Knowing Jim, who also is is definitely you know, a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: strong personality and a straight shooter, and that can be
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: tough for certain people to take.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: What do you think, agent it's been around, He just
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: comes across.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: It comes across a little bit better because he's not back, right,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's not back.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: They didn't invite him back. He's not back on the
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: broadcast I saw, and I get it. It's tough, but yeah,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, teams have changed.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: It's not the old style of bringing the old guys
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: and let them teach the young guys. It's oh, we
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: have a machine that can tell us better than the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: guy that actually stood in the box.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And that's where I think the disconnect has come from
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: organizations and if you're not going to jump on the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: on the on the bandwagon of analytics, analytics, analytics, analytics, analytics,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are criticized forever for not using enough analytics,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and now they're jumping on that bandwagon. It's a tough
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: it's a tough thing to do, and you have to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: understand that you have to be able to roll with
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the punches and do certain things. And I don't know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I like Jim. I think he was a hell of
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: a player. He was a cardinal guy. After getting over there,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: he became the cardinal. Fans loved him. He knows a
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: lot about the game. It's a shame that they don't.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: You know, this is true that they didn't use them
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the way that he thought he should be used.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I wonder how long this was boiling for him. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: wonder if this was like just this year he went
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: down there. Because they're kind of transitioning over and I've
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: seen some new gms come in. I've seen some new
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: you know, just be bop. You know, some baseball operations
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: guys come in and say, hey, I want to shift
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: back to bringing some guys in to me. And this
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: might hit Aja a little bit harder than other people.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: If you want a World Series with an organization, you
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: have to have a longer leash for like if you
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: made somebody mad, Like, you know what it's like to
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: win in that city, and that is valuable whether or
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: not you are like, oh, analytics or all old school
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: whatever it is. You can't create. You can't create you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: separation in the in the clubhouse or in the organization.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: But you know what it's like to win there. You
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: know what it's like to win with that uniform on
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: and as bad as a White Sox have been. Like
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: a guy like AJ who's won as a White Sox
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: and his whole team, all his teammates, those guys should
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: be around. Same thing with Jim Edmunds. He had success
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: in Saint Louis and to me, they should be around.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Maybe they should be top to too, because you know
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: if they get too bitter, But I just think they
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: should be around. They should be around the guys to
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: help them create a winning environment.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Can I present a counterpoint because I've done some homework
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: on this, I've been told that some teams are great
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: with this, some teams suck with this, and most teams
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: are in the middle, and that they would love certain
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: vets involved with certain things and other vets in more
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: with say the fans or with other players. The example
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: would be if there's a former player who has a
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: very very different philosophy or is even talking down about
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: something that's being taught to a player that goes against
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff, and then coaching staff and manager, who
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: also often is former player, gets involved and it gets
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit tricky. Not saying this is the particular
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: situation here, but Aj, if you're a really good organization.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: You probably have twenty.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Guys that are a big part of your past, not
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: every single one is the correct choice to be coaching
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: your players.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Agree, different people should have different roles in the organization.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: And listen, coming from somebody that was let go by
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a team they won the World Series with me for
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you know, not being fully on board with what they
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: were doing, I understand this, and you know we're all
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: entitled to our opinion. And listen, guys, teams do things
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the way teams will do because you know what the
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: end they teams have all the power.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Just lucky for me, I have some other forum, foul
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Territory to give my exactly.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: You will not be restrained. For Jim, we'll see where
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: he pops up. Actually, for Cardinals fans, you can learn
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: more about this story with Katie Wu and Trevor Rosenthal
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: should be really good on this topic too, as of
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: course a former Cardinals player, So make sure you check
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: out Cardinal Territory with former Cards closer Trevor Rosenthal and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the Athletics Katie Wu Park of the Epic Yes Break.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: I will say this, I played for the Cardinals for
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: half a year. They were incredible about bringing former Cardinals back.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I mean it was every day there was somebody back.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I mean it was like, I mean, you look at
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: what they have now. They have all a marmal manager.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Didn't they bring dev Descalso they brought back John Jay.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I mean they have Every coach was like a former
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Cardinal had some affiliation to the Cardinals. I mean, they're
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: one of the great organizations about doing this. So it's
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: just weird to see somebody as great as Jim Edmonds.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: You have to say something like this because the Cardinals
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: are one of the best teams I was around as
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: far as alumni relationships.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Bingos so to me sounds like more to the story
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: dot com. All right, A Jay, do you remember this
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: story from Last Break?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: You got it for us?
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Felix's sixth finger.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Felix Felix so Felix Rodriguez. If people don't know, he's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: a pitcher. He pitched for the Giants.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: He played for the Giants when I was on he
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: had he had a little finger, like I mean, it
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: was tiny, it was like this, it was like this
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: thing literally, but it stuck out on his hand right here, right.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: So he had a little finger. And he told me
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: this Now, I don't know if this is true or not,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: so people in the chat or tw on Twitter. He
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: told me, as a kid, he cut it off and
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: it grew back. He had one on each hand and
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: he literally tried to cut him off and he grew back.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: That's what he told me. Could be true, could not
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: be true. I love Fifi. He was one of my
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: favorite teammates of all time. He's funny as hell through
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: one pitch and had a great career. But he told me,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: as a kid, he cut him off and they grew back.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: He did manipulate the baseball.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: How was it going toplate? The baseball is down here? Shot?
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, I don't know.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: He had a weird thing with his glove because sometimes
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: his glove.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Would irritated, so he had to like kind of position
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: his glove a certain way.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen that, have you ever?
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's a real choice. I think it's
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: a real story. I think he lied to you. That's fine,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: he lied to me.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just relaying then I was lied to, But I'm
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: just telling you that's what he told me, because I said,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: why don't you go in and get it cut off,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: and he said, I tried as a kid.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: That came back, and I don't again, I don't know.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I just say, I don't think it's like a haircut.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: But he probably could have done it again if that
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: was the case, and it wouldn't grow back the next day.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I listen.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: One thing I'll tell you is I'll tell you the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: true stories that were told to me. They may be true,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: they may not be true, but they were told to
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: me by somebody. And this one was told to me
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: from the guy's mouth, his own mouth. So yeah, probably
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: not true, but worth a good story.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: The sixth finger part, though, is true. And it wasn't,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: you know, a prosthetic or something that was added on
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you just you had it.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: You didn't have an extra finger stuck right here out
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: of his just for looks. I mean, it was a real,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: but it was tiny.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: It was like this big and like super skinny.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: People do wild things via surgery these days, but no,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: that was real. That was organic, But great story. I've
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: never actually seen someone with the sixth finger, so I
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: was interested to hear about that. But it does sound
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: like if you really didn't want it, you could probably
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: remove it since you don't need it. But again I
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: don't know the origins of it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: This is not.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Different times, different times, Scott. Back when AJ played, they
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: rode trains everywhere.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, six finger Rodriguez six. We have a signing that
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: occurred this morning.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: The Minnesota Twins make their first move of the off season.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the off season. Danny Colombe pending physical to
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Minnesota and John Hayman wrote very solid back end of
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the Bullpen now with Sans s Griffin, Jack's friend of
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: the show, John Duran and yes Colombe, who's been really
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: good as kind of the hidden gem picked up by
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the Twins goes through injury issues. Hidden gem picked up
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: by the Orioles thrives injury down the stretch last year.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: That's how they can pick them up again. It looks
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: like it was for one year and three million bucks krats.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: That's looking like the going rate, right, and that's probably
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: why Tim Hill signed five seconds later. But what do
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: we think about the Minnesota Twins and their almost perfect
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: team that only had to add one left handed reliever
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: to get back into the playoffs.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Producer Lady creates a rundown for us every day, and
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: we don't get to half the stuff because we gab
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: way too. One of the things we were going to
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: get to. One of the things we were going to
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: get to was the best bullpens in baseball. I honestly
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: feel like the Twins consistently create an unbelievable bullpen. I
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: know they had a down a down year last year
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: with that bullpen, but I was gonna make the case
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: they already have one of the best bullpens in the game.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: And you add a guy like DC who texted me
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: this morning and said or this afternoon and said, yeah,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: I'll think about coming on next week. He's a little
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: busy getting ready for spring training going down to Fort Misery.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: But I think it's a great ad because they do
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: so many different things, guys from so many different angles.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: He's coming from the left side, falling off Duran's just
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: absolutely ridiculous with that splinker, and Griffin Jackson is throwing
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: beabies up there. So that's what they do. They just
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: create a lot of different looks for you.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Good call.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome Twins, that's a welcome turns.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: One team last a major league. The Cardinals is for
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: what I saw.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe the Marlins, like the Brewers are on this list,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: but they've signed like like barely free agent contracts, like
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: two guys that are either on like splits or something.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And yeah, maybe the Marlins are there.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: I saw something Marlins, the Marlins the only ones left.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Someone's got to help me out. I don't know.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I mean maybe I thought the Marlins and the Cardinals
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: one two left.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: You could be right. There's a lot of there's a
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: lot of online.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, good for the Twins to get back
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: on back in the mix for the people. Keep asking
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: this question, especially on Instagram, will give you answers. So
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: here's one from Julian. He said, question for ag I
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: wanted to know for years. When he covered the Astros
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and the playoffs in twenty nineteen against Tampa Bay, a
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: big combo on the broadcast, how do you hit a
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: picture like Eric Cole who's striking out a ton of people?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Back then Age's answer, almost without hesitation, cheat. There are
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: many other instances on the broadcast where he would say
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: something along the lines of cheat, cheat, and cheat again.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: My question is toda AJ know the Ashers are up
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to something back then or is it just one hell
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: of a coincidence.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I had no idea. I had no idea. What I
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: meant by that was cheat to the fastball, get ready
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: for the fastball, and don't get beat by a fastball,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: because what was happening is I think it was the rays.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: They were late on all the fastballs. So when as
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: a baseball player, when you say cheat, that means get
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: ready early and just put all your chips in and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: cheat everything you have to the fastball to miss it
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: out front. That's what I was saying. No, I had
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: no idea they were cheating, because if I would have,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I would have had a little bat and I would
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: have had a garbage can and I would have been like,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't do that. So, yeah, I know that's not
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I think Kratz knows what I'm talking about. If you
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: ask Kratz anybody that played, they know that cheating means
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you're just ready for the fastball and you're just cheating
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to get it out front. And at the time, Garrett
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Cole was throwing four seamers one hundred miles an hour,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and so you just had to make sure you didn't
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: get beat by that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Yep, exactly common term actually that you hear opt.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Basically, what I was saying is you got one shot
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: to hit a fastball. If he throws your three breaking
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: balls in a row, you go sit down, take your
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: shot on the first fastball you see, and try to
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: get the head out and hit in the Crawford boxes.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I thought AJ was gonna be like, yeah, of course
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I knew that. I knew everything. I just don't always
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: like he did.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: That was I think that was the series when glassnew
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: was tipping and we couldn't say it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, they know what's coming. And
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: we knew that he was tipping, but I couldn't say.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: You can't really say that he's tipping on the air.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: So you're like, well, they kind of know what's coming,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and you try to gloss around it without actually saying
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: he's telling him what's coming.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: If AJ knew that back then, he didn't have foul
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: territory to talk about it on him, well.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: If you look back, if you look back. Even in
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: their investigation, there were several teams that in twenty seventeen
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: did accuse the Astros of cheating and told Major League
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Baseball and Major League Baseball said Okay, we'll do something
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: about it if we catch them, so it didn't come
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: out till later.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Well MLB also said, okay, we've gotten calls on how
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: off the league.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Oh there was that too, mm yeah, it was just
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: going on going on the thing. Uh.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: The Danny Farquhar video was the thing after the guy
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: who wasn't just said at the picture Mike Fire at
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Mike Fires came out and said it, and then the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Danny Farquhar that video is like the most damning video
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: you've ever heard. I mean, remember he called the catch
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: us at the White Sox and he's like, let's change
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: our signs because they know something and you could hear
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the boom boom boom in the background.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: That was to me, it was like whoa baby?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: And that's Danny Farquhar, who's you know, fringe big leaguer
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: trying to just make it and getting screwed over in
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: that situation. But also he's like, I'm not going to
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: be the one to out a team like this. You know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: he's just not in a position to do that. I
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: mean a lot of players were pretty pissed at Fires
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: after that, even non Astros players, But it did actually
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: really help clean up the game. It was getting the annoying,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the paranoia, and it was causing massive, massive delays in games.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Obviously, we have a pitchclock now, it would have been nice.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Back then, it would have been insane.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Actually, that would have been some drama because there was
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: so much pausing and time outing and sign switching during
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: that whole paranoia era. But anyway, good question from someone
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: who is an Astros fan who's like, I don't care,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I can take the heat. I just want to actually know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and he had always been curious, so I love that stuff.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Keep asking on all the socials. Obviously I see as
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: much as possible on YouTube, but Instagram dms helped to.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Man, how are the Phillies going to compete with the
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Dodges when they're just loading up on all these guys,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: And as the competitor, what's your feeling on what the
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Dodgers have done this season?
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: How they spend their money is how they spend their money.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: You can't do anything about it. You can't control that.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: But all you can control is what you do, and
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: you just go out and compete. This is major League Baseball.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: They're all big leaguers and we got a really good club.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: They can only play nine yus and they can only
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: start one pitcher every night. And we've got a really
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: good rotation. We've got a really good lineup, we've got
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: a really good bullpen, so we'll match up.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Finally, there you go.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: That's Rob Thompson, Phillies manager on the Philly Show, joining Todd,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Jim and Ruben. You can catch that show wherever you
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: get your shows. Just look it up, type it in
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: the search part of the FT network. Good answer, certainly
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: better than the answer we got from Yankees' ownership the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: other day.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Guys, he scared.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I bet you the owner says the same thing. Yeah,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: don't you agree? I bet the owners like screw it.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: He usually does these like epic, you know, war movie
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: type speeches in the clubhouse before the season starts. Yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I hope he like brings a huge bag of money.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: He's like, we rich too, We rich too.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: It can't stop us. I would be a bold movement
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: if anyone could do it. John Middleton's a man.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: It's a much manlier way to approach it than to
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: be like, well, we can't keep up with them, we
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: need to.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: It's hard, it's hard. It's hard to do what they're doing.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: It was just a cringe answer.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: The other day we went over it, you know, at
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: length if you missed it, if you want to check
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: it out. And so did Ken on one of his
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: previous fair territories. All right, old purple on krats hats
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: on the way out.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: What is that?
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, only Scotty knows. He doesn't know backyard, backyard baseball,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: little melon.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Heads, dude, I know the melon heads.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I was a video gamer, obviously I played, and that
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: was a computer game. I wasn't even allowed to have
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: a console for a while, so you had to go Backyard.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: If you had.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was a good That was a cheat code.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: You cheat your way out of a console into the
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: PC games and it's the same thing.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: It's still a video game. But don't tell my parent.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: See everyone Wednesday, h