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Foil Cards in KeyForge The Sparkling Rumor That Could Change the Game · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Foiled. But what's going on? Everybody? I am the one,
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  Speaker 1: the only, the w oh okay, I e joined here
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  Speaker 1: by the normal cast of misfits. We're missing a misfit.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna add a misfit right now. So we got
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  Speaker 1: the PhD of key Forge, Doctor Sheet Yay, the Choke
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  Speaker 1: show Himself dress Corps. Hey, guys, how's it going? And
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  Speaker 1: our newest misfit one of our locals, Pete.
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  Speaker 2: You want said he'd be right back. I feel uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: He said he was gonna go, uh, hang out with
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  Speaker 2: the wife. You can't see my air quotes right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So he said it should be what two minutes? Do
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  Speaker 2: we sell three? Gave it two minutes?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well so that means he is about seven minutes late.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he's the kind of guy who's probably got
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  Speaker 3: garter belts to his socks and it takes him two
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  Speaker 3: minutes to get on dress.
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  Speaker 2: Hasn't actually gotten started yet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry, I have a bad image now. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: lots to go over. Obviously a couple of new things
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  Speaker 1: came out. We just want to highlight for you guys
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  Speaker 1: that we had the love letter to key Forge this
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  Speaker 1: week and the champions are forged not born. If you
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  Speaker 1: guys want to go check those out, you can find
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  Speaker 1: him at keys dot com. We've already kind of already
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  Speaker 1: gone over those and with the rest of what we'll
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  Speaker 1: go over because this is the last day episode one
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  Speaker 1: of the KFC. We went through uh, I think Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: and then we went through Friday, Saturday, and now we're
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  Speaker 1: going through Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: So this is it.
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  Speaker 1: We're at the we're at the end stages here, but
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  Speaker 1: we do have a little bit to go over. One
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  Speaker 1: of the big things that we found out from the well,
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know what order, but Metal Ember are coming back.
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  Speaker 2: That was announced today.
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  Speaker 1: It only took three game founds. Yeah, it only took
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  Speaker 1: three game founds of us asking for chatchkey ship and
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  Speaker 1: us saying, hey, remember those Embers they used to give
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  Speaker 1: away that FFG used to give away and free right
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  Speaker 1: and expensive?
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  Speaker 2: How much are they? They are expensive? This is true? How much?
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  Speaker 1: But what are they running.
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  Speaker 3: Dollars for fifteen tokens?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's not too dissimilar right from luxury
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  Speaker 1: play style, Right, I.
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  Speaker 3: Saw you guys all being like fifteen, why not eighteen?
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  Speaker 3: Exactly that reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm I definitely make more than fifteen
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  Speaker 2: member in a turn, so I would have to get
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  Speaker 2: multiple Yeah, what does bandola do?
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  Speaker 1: I just locks you like three or four these bad boys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta get you gotta got a case.
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  Speaker 1: I might end up sticking with my pink number. I
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  Speaker 1: like my pink number.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see I want now. I'm actually curious how many.
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  Speaker 1: Ideas and these are not as stellar as I want
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  Speaker 1: them to be.
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  Speaker 3: Well, being that those are digital renderings, it's who cares.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not even for fifty for fifty, but oh
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  Speaker 1: these are okay, fair enough for fifty dollars, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of expect. I thought you just said they were like
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  Speaker 1: forty five, forty four dollars zero, thirty nine, ninety nine. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: either way, it was forty dollars is a little bit pricey.
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  Speaker 1: So luxury play style I'm on the website right now,
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  Speaker 1: how is luxury playstyles.
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  Speaker 2: Right for there? For for ten of them, it's forty
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  Speaker 2: six dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Those are also I get twenty. They are eighty seventeen
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  Speaker 1: carrot gold. Maybe I think they're.
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  Speaker 2: Really gold eighteen gold plated, eighteen plated, but at least
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  Speaker 2: they're gold. I mean plating. You don't have to put
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  Speaker 2: much on it to be plated, right, I just got
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  Speaker 2: to like breathe on it a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: That's not necessarily true. There's a lot that goes into plating. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I do know.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, I guess would know.
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  Speaker 1: I do know a little bit about the jewelry plating process.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not going to get you anything
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  Speaker 1: in return, but I mean it's gold as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: God knows what these are.
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  Speaker 2: Not gold, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know, but extra extra asbestos. Right, they're coming from China.
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  Speaker 2: Percent. Yeah, they're coming from China for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But if you were, if you wanted, I still just
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  Speaker 1: want what was wrong with the acrylics? Was there a
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  Speaker 1: reason we're not going back to the acrylics?
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  Speaker 3: They might actually be more that the costs versus the return, right,
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  Speaker 3: because although they're croaks, are certainly cheaper to produce in
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  Speaker 3: on an individual level, the fact that they are not
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  Speaker 3: intended for sale versus.
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  Speaker 1: I mean people by them. People were buying them in fact,
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  Speaker 1: but not from gg, not from Gigi, but I think
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  Speaker 1: Gigi could sell them regardless. Check out check out the
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  Speaker 1: game found for some mettel m Bayo. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why I said it like that. If you want metal
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  Speaker 1: umbirds there.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we can sharpen the edges and throw them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds more fun. All right, So we got
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  Speaker 1: the home base program? Is it back like it normally is?
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  Speaker 1: Who read this article?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't, Well, so so it is. It's back. It
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  Speaker 2: seems pretty similar. There is a little difference though, So
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  Speaker 2: what they did this time is they say they're basing
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  Speaker 2: it in some fashion based on dollars spent instead of
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  Speaker 2: just like pure number of pledges. So well we asked
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  Speaker 2: for last time. Yeah, yeah, I guess it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you have people combining or I guess, like I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, if you get a bunch of people at
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  Speaker 2: your store who do the huge pledge that.
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  Speaker 4: They're able, they're able to split up their different bids.
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  Speaker 4: So if you have multiple stories, you can support multiple
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  Speaker 4: stores too.
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  Speaker 3: What about you can lose it only gonna buy from
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  Speaker 3: stores and not give any of this money the game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I get vote again because I actually support my locals.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get.
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  Speaker 2: Vote and that has been the complaint where.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't make draft score money anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. So sheep.
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  Speaker 4: Your complaint is still there, but they're looking for their
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  Speaker 4: cuts and they definitely want it.
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  Speaker 1: See but how much damage is this? I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's such a thing like, you know, like Kickstarter
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  Speaker 1: and game Found, the red headed stepchild of the crowdsourcing community.
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  Speaker 1: There is a there's an argument, okay, well either way,
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  Speaker 1: Like there is an argument like this is the new way, right,
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  Speaker 1: like this is the way that things are being just
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  Speaker 1: done now. However, However, what you are seeing a lot
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of these games, they are kickstarting their
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  Speaker 1: first one, which is originally what we were told was
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  Speaker 1: going to happen, and then the rest goes to retail, right,
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  Speaker 1: and it is not going that way anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Well, again, we could prepay for the key forge. That
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  Speaker 4: is another model that we're seeing. You could go ahead
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  Speaker 4: and just have done it as one, which is what
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  Speaker 4: they stated. It looks bad, it feels bad. I think
• 8:03
  Speaker 4: our numbers definitely show. And when I say numbers, I
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  Speaker 4: guess I'm really talking about the project itself and how
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  Speaker 4: many people are truly backing right now. We're at five
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  Speaker 4: hundred and twenty one backers, and I think that's a
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  Speaker 4: real issue, is that you have a for one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and forty one thousand dollars twenty three one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: forty one twenty three dollars at this point on Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 4: for US eleven days left, you have, you have a
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  Speaker 4: small group of people who have really pledged a lot
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  Speaker 4: of money. And that's what I see as keyboards right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure because I'm looking at actually dead sinks.
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  Speaker 1: I got to look for Jm's little thing. We are again,
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  Speaker 1: so you can see there's a there's a dip. He
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  Speaker 1: took a whole out.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, they're thirty three percent.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it took another thirty three percent.
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  Speaker 3: Dep Well, I know that's what it looks like to me, right, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Not like that, I mean, but you can see like
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know if I can. Yeah, here I can.
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  Speaker 1: For those of you in the chat, I can post
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  Speaker 1: it for you. It's taken quite a dip from you know,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have wall in here. I wish he did,
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  Speaker 1: but he did. It isn't it's not a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: But he's got grim reminders.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we can't we can't really complain for how
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  Speaker 4: much for paying them, So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't pay him anything. So grim reminders, and
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  Speaker 1: then you can see ember Sky's and not prophetic visions,
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  Speaker 1: and that this number keeps going down. It starts off
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  Speaker 1: on the same trajectory, and then right around I don't
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  Speaker 1: know day, right after the first day, it takes that dip,
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  Speaker 1: I guess see, not even before the first day. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on. Am I choppy? You
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  Speaker 1: guys are telling me I'm choppy?
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  Speaker 2: Well you yeah, the last few episodes, you've been choppy
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  Speaker 2: to us.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes at the moment you're not. But I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. Maybe I gotta make sure.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully, I guess I could actually listen to us and
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  Speaker 2: see if actually came through.
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  Speaker 1: I have to listen to the episodes, so any answer
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  Speaker 1: is no, Well, it's good to you guys. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure what's going on. But I have a different input
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  Speaker 1: on my end than you guys have. So maybe I
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: kind of moved around my set up a little bit again,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe the extra space is causing an issue or
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  Speaker 1: one of the maybe one of my cords is going bad.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but the home base program is back
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit different of a fashion, So I
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  Speaker 1: guess I'm going to ask the same question we asked
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  Speaker 1: last time, Sheep, what are your are you backing dollars back?
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  Speaker 3: Zero dollars zero dollars, Bob, I do represent a store
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  Speaker 3: and we will be getting a pledge through us through
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  Speaker 3: the store, so it's not zero zero but.
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  Speaker 2: Personal personal Sheep space dollars nil.
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  Speaker 1: All right, drafts car, what do you what do you purchase?
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  Speaker 2: Just like the last campaign, I'm doing the one sixty
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  Speaker 2: and I am gonna throw two sets of these metal
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  Speaker 2: tokens in.
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  Speaker 1: Are they coming in?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna add do the add on?
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  Speaker 2: Yep ewok?
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  Speaker 1: What are you?
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually really struggling now. I'm struggling because I did
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  Speaker 4: not go in with amber Skies and I just got
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: six decks each of amber Skis and Talk and I
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  Speaker 4: really felt the pain of not opening decks and being
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: able to have a couple decks to play with. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I had six, and we play locally, and so I
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  Speaker 4: grabbed until we've now run out and it should be
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  Speaker 4: back next week. But I miss having, you know, five
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  Speaker 4: boxes to be able to look through. And my struggle
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: is it's five boxes of cardboard that sits on a
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  Speaker 4: shelf for the most part, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 4: I'd much rather go ahead and support my local store.
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  Speaker 4: But even getting them to order it and have it
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  Speaker 4: is problematic, and the best price is here through Game Found.
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  Speaker 4: So I find myself in a pickle. I don't honestly
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm going to do. I'd like to see
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  Speaker 4: some organized play announcement that would help me. It would
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  Speaker 4: help to see what's coming for next year for Vaults,
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  Speaker 4: which I believe Josh has some good ideas and is
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  Speaker 4: running with, so I'm hopeful for that.
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  Speaker 2: But I.
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  Speaker 4: It's difficult to try and be a competitive player Wookie
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  Speaker 4: when you're only opening essentially twelve decks and then here's
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  Speaker 4: one a week or two a week. It's very much
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  Speaker 4: a lottery, and I've not been very good at a
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  Speaker 4: playing a lot same same.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think buying a ton more decks is the answer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand, but I don't know. I honestly feel
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  Speaker 4: like I would. I feel like I could go through
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  Speaker 4: and I could have here's one, two, three decks that
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  Speaker 4: I would enjoy and have something to be able to
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  Speaker 4: do with.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm struggling.
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  Speaker 3: I just gotta be like Dras and buy the good
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  Speaker 3: ones on the secondary market.
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  Speaker 2: So that was the thing is with you all the
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  Speaker 2: two or three times. I guess still, I've bought four
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  Speaker 2: decks now of seriousness.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't that top four deck from Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I did?
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  Speaker 2: I did. Yes, I did buy that uh mere hours
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  Speaker 2: before the before it be God, yes.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing about that dazz is I said, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: I would say, whatever money I was going to go
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  Speaker 4: ahead and put into the boxes, I would go ahead
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  Speaker 4: and buy a deck. The secondary market is just absolutely
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  Speaker 4: dead right now.
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  Speaker 2: It is dry.
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  Speaker 4: There's a there's a few decks that are selling, but
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  Speaker 4: for the most part, if you're opening something, you're a bi.
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  Speaker 1: The secondary well that's a buyer's market. Then well there's
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  Speaker 1: a no. No, there's a no. So here's here's the
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  Speaker 1: whole market. Because I've been looking around because I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I take twenty twenty five, like I really enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, I'd like to take twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five a little more seriously. And you start
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: poking around and you start looking at decks. In the
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  Speaker 1: first place, where do you guys go If you're looking
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  Speaker 1: for decks, just search dokay, search the Okay, yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: but here's the problem with the Okay, now, DK is
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  Speaker 1: full of decks that are they look good, but in reality,
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  Speaker 1: like when you get into some of these top tier decks,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you and I talked about it, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about it in our private chat, like they beat
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  Speaker 1: the decks they're supposed to beat, but once you get
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  Speaker 1: to that upper echelon of decks, they just they're not
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  Speaker 1: as good as you think they are. Period and a story.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that is anything as good as you wanted
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  Speaker 3: to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's there's no perfect deck, which
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  Speaker 2: is part of the reason why this game is great.
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  Speaker 2: And and so Morgan has down there in the chat.
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  Speaker 2: I think like the serious buyers, like they do not
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  Speaker 2: look for decks for sale, right, they look at just
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: decks and then they hound right and they attack, right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there was there was a person who uh
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: is no longer uh no longer plays a game, but
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: like they were famous for just like pulling out all
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: the stops to try to uncover any sort of evidence
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  Speaker 2: they could online of like who might own this deck
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  Speaker 2: and oh somebody heard that somebody's local somewhere in this
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  Speaker 2: state had so just like finding anybody in that state
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  Speaker 2: and the emailing them do you know this person? Who
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  Speaker 2: is it?
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  Speaker 4: And then tracking it down, finding it and then buying it. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I do hear what Wookie is saying. I hear what
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: you're saying, DRez. I do feel that a lot of
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  Speaker 4: what is being sold is coming from our key Ford community.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's backing. You got five hundred people. It's a
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  Speaker 4: very very very.
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  Speaker 2: Focus group.
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  Speaker 4: And so I feel the decks that are for sale
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  Speaker 4: form the most part. There's a couple of decks that
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  Speaker 4: I still feel are fine. Again, Wookie, I think that
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  Speaker 4: you're looking for some decks that are going to be
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  Speaker 4: tried and true, that are going to go ahead and
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  Speaker 4: be bangers, that are going to just consistently win. Those
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  Speaker 4: I don't think are coming in at a reasonable price.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: If you want to play, pay an obscene amount. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's available. Sheep level money is what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Offered sheep level money almost to sheep level money on
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  Speaker 1: a deck you offer, well, I offer what was my thing?
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  Speaker 1: I think I thought offered three eighths of stupid sheep money?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, three aces not going ahead and stupid Like.
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  Speaker 2: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot it I did the actual man.
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  Speaker 2: Remember, there's also if if it was a deck that
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  Speaker 2: did reasonably well at Worlds at case see, then like
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  Speaker 2: it is at its high water mark of value in
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  Speaker 2: that person's mind right now.
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  Speaker 1: So I offered fifty five percent of stupid Sheep money.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's quite a bit, but it is
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit.
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  Speaker 4: But I think that when we're looking at some of
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  Speaker 4: these decks in order to be able to break through
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  Speaker 4: the echelon, there's only a few decks that are going
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  Speaker 4: to go ahead and make it. And so I think
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: that people are holding on to them. I think that
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: people are clinching and keeping them close and saying, no,
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  Speaker 4: this is not going to go unless it's first stupid money.
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  Speaker 4: And that's just that's what I have gone ahead and seen.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: And so you're hoping to be more in a lottery
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: or open up. And while I had some money that
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: was set aside for the different boxes, just there's nothing
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  Speaker 4: that has come even close that I'm like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 4: interested in this and I'm willing to put for the
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  Speaker 4: money for it.
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  Speaker 2: So you should see if I give up his deck
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  Speaker 2: for for fifty five percent of Sheep's money.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you had seen Riku's actual deck.
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  Speaker 2: But that was oh yes, I yes, it was the deck.
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  Speaker 4: So no, no, But I'm saying, like, that's the deck
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  Speaker 4: that he fell in love with, that he had opened early,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: and he had played with, and so like there's there's
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: attachment to that deck and a vast knowledge from multiple
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: plays on that deck. And I just I think that
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: some people are more attached to their decks than others.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: But the problem is is that if you find a
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: great deck that gets opened by someone who's potentially not
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: as super active, then it becomes a real wild card
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: of can you even get in contact with him? Do
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: you know anyone? Is it is this even do you
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: have any way to contact? Which is what drascored you
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: were talking about, is how can we go ahead and
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: communicate with individuals on the secondary market. But I'll say again,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: I think that cost for decks because a personal attachment
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: has increased, and our group is just it's a smaller group,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: and so people are holding on to those decks that
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: can really make it through to those top aids.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: That's just my opinion.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: You also see individuals who are frankly in that top
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: eight who are opening a wider array of decks and going, yep,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: this is it out of the boxes that I've opened.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and some of those folks also they
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: buy a ton of decks like on the secondary market
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: for like cheap ish, and then test and then resell
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the ones they don't think are is good, or they
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: wait for somebody to make an offer on a deck
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and like, okay, now I'll test it, because they buy
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of decks that you know, look reasonably good.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: So I will do that. But but I've definitely heard
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: of folks doing that. So yeah, it's uh, it is.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: It is tricky.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: It feels dry, tricky to get, is all I'm saying.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: It feels super duper duper duper dry right now.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, you really think it would take five grand
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to buy anybody's top performing deck right now?
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I think you are absurd. But I don't. I don't
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: see that. I don't see the value at that point.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: There's no there's there is no more prior, there is
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: no more dollars to be one via g G. It
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't make so five grand is just at five grand.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: If it's gonna take five grand, I will buy five
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: grand of g R and find it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: But but that's but this is the thing is like
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: going ahead and going to a vault to ur in
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: saying that this has a high probability of being able
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: to place that. That's where some people are saying, I
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: won't let my best thatt go until it's five grand.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: But you're right, wookie. Right now, with no prize money,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: there's little incentive to be able to go hide and
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: place any money on some of these larger decks that Frank,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: you're going to.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: You guys are like you guys are still always stuck
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: in this world of like you only invest for prize money.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Like look at the amount of money people spend on
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: decks and other hobbies that have no reward. Thing like
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: this is disposable income for a lot of people and
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: definitely are not buying it either as an investment or
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: with an expect of a return.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Right Well, it's just yes, the expectations if they want it,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: and they have with the number.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, so there's multiple reasons. Number one, there's still no
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: prize money. Number two, the field.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Is so much. I agree, it is not worth five
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars in any metric of this is how you
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: would value. That doesn't mean any thing, though, because we're
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: in a realm of where things are sold, not for
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: their ability to return the money invest it. It's like
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: buying there's there's just so much stupid ship people buy
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: for lots of money that there will never be a
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: return on investment, but it doesn't matter because they wanted it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that what you're looking at, Sheep is
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: there will be people who will spend money not for Hey,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: I'm going to make money, but it gives me a
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: better probability of making a top eight at a vault.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: And if I'm looking at going to multiple vaults and
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I can have that high occurrence of showing up and winning,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: that's what they're But it's paying for the way. That's
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: but that's but that is still an option. But there's
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: a lot of people saying, well, I'm paying a lot
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: of money to go to the vaults and for this,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: and frankly, yeah, and I wouldn't.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Have enough money to also spend five thousand dollars on
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: a deck correct or even two thousand dollars on a deck,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And that's totally fine. I'm not in any way suggesting.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: People should do that don't spend out of your meals.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: It's just the fact that these decks are these top
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: performer decks are very hard to replace, maybe not possible.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Not anymore so I guess I guess that then you don't.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Have to do by sealed if you think that's the
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: way to go.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: This is the thing that IM sort of started but
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: haven't really done and sob but you could try this, Waki.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: So I was like, Hey, I'm gonna search for Cantina
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Fiend because it's great and with a few cards that
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I think are great combo pieces. And just how many
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: decks are there out there with a minimum SASS rating.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: And if.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably around there. And I bet you not all
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of those are good, but I bet you you could
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: find one you'd be happy with for I don't know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: a few.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Maybe yes, maybe, So I will say, yeah, tokens have changed.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I think that we've seen a lot playing on uh
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: the Crucible right now. That seems to be an area.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: But again, most decks will go ahead and ebb and
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: flow in their popularity and what's there. I think what
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Wookie wants is something that's fraud ass, that is pastor
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: ass esque, where they can consistently win at a very
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: very high rate regardless of what set is here, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: so we've seen that flow.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: So Scholarsam is a perfect example.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I want gr I know, I want gr Okay, I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: know I want that.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: And do you want the wind cut or do you
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: not want wind cut?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily have to be wind cut number one.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Its name is Pastor Ass. Okay, that is such a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: but we writ I, well, it's such.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: A but the name No, it's Pastor Ass Nimrod Well,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: the name alone is worth several hundred dollars.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I agree, it's such an ac name that just I.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Would buy that deck if it was if it was bad.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: For the name right name alone, so you could credit
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't shred it. But I mean I just I couldn't.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Actually I actually just found it Nathan, which is a
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: decent deck. I lost it, but then I refound it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Still in turns out once you find it, it's still
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: in French, no no speaking, yeah.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: In seven to ten space weeks or I.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Did order a English copy of Nathan.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: But I think that was the question, and I had
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: a few lines back, probably two minutes ago. But the
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: question is have you been looking at some of the
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: foreign language decks. There are some decks that, frankly before
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: we might have pushed off because they were in.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: A foreign language.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Right now, today I faced a quad Kirby deck with
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: double Tribute and it had some legs. My Katina Feene
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: did take it down. It was nice back and forth,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: but it really it caused quite a bit of stir there,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: and so it is interesting. But I think looking at
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: some foreign language decks offers a route that wasn't previously
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: possible because now you can print it in English.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I said, I the only reason
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I've never really played Nathan is due to the fact
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: if it's in French, I do know most of the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: cards in them via artwork, but there are like a
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: handful of rando is in there. I don't think the
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Star Alliance is good enough to do anything, but maybe.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: The Star Alliance from Nathan.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, What've I rocked that Star Alliance consistently, buddy, Like
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: that's Star Alliance. You build the big giant fat board
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: and with it multiple kin cans and what it offers.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I disagree with you on that.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, we can disagree, that's fine, But either way, I
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: should in seven to ten space weeks whatever that is.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I ordered it, I think two weeks ago.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're even printing them yet.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: But either way, I don't know. I have ordered it,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and we will see. It's it's still rocking an eighty
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: nine as far as sas goes. So it's not terrible.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: When we're saying and laughing about an eighty nine is big.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a weird story. Alf Gar is in ninety three.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I would like to start playing elf guar too. That
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: is that is a weirdly enough, A umberling deck does
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: make lots of umberlings. Monster Gen and Fernandez both went
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: up too, and so did l weird story. But and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: guess who has possession of all of those right now?
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I have some of them?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: You have all of them?
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I loute you for your good stuff.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You're like, hey, can I borrow al? And I'm like sure,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and then it just never comes back. And then I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: need Monstrogen and Fernandez for my alliance, and then it
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: just never comes back.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: That's because I'm responsible.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: My real question, have you yes, yes, you do. My
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: real question is have you gone ahead and just checked Vietnam?
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: To see the Vietnamese decks, because that's really where.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Sort by, I don't think you can start that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: No, not that, and so did I?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: But I did I go? Did I go to Vietnam
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and start shaking people for their for their decks?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: No?
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: But I mean looking at what both Bamboo and Riku
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: were able to pull and some of the decks coming
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: from Vietnam, it is they had a real nice print
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: run there.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: So yeah, they sure did, didn't they.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: We also don't know how many they've been opening, right,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: how many they have to go through to get those?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: We don't know? This is true.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Well, let's move on to the Crucible Clash. Crucible Clash
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: is a special keys Forge set design specifically for competitive
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: sealed play. In a sealed game or tournament, players do
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: not bring their own decks are collective. Instead, they each
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: open you one to three gotta gotta So basically Crucible
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Clash will be everyone keep using, keeps using menagerie and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: all that menagerie unchained. I don't think this is the scene.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: And its art gun power. I'm confused, right because because
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: if you keep reading right, basically it says that they're
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: not usable outside of sealed play.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Correct, So play it yeah and throw it away?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: So like why what Like I don't understand, right, Like
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: is it is it just Hey, we wanted to do
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: another Managerie set, but like we didn't want to call
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: it that, or.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: We're claiming it. I mean it is exactly Like, that's
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: exactly what Managerie is. It's basically sealed play with other
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Menagerie decks, and technically you can keep yours after you've
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: opened them and maybe find somebody who will play against
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: your Managerie deck. And that's basically gonna be the same
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: for Crucible Clash, right, there's no there's gonna be nothing
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: after the fact, after you've opened your Crucible Clash back
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: and played it that day. As long as our opponent's
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: willing to play against it, it doesn't really matter. It's
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: just will never be legal tournament play, which makes it
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: basically exactly like Menagerie.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: So it's a like intentionally designed to be played in
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: isolation only against other Crucible Clash decks. So like, because
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the power level is high, low is maybe turned up.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Every Crucible Clash deck will include a special ARCon power
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: fine chosen from a list based on con Are these
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: going to be good archon powers like shit talking.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think that will be just a flectulance.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I'm guessing each every time you play a card it's
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: steal one.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: The archon will have an ability. I'm assuming I've also
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: heard thoughts of like it's gonna be like the packets
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that they had a menagerie.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Well, they give a clue where it says like if
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: the deck includes a lot of a type of icon,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: it may include an arc on power that provides a
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: new use for that bonus icon. So that means to me,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: they're just going to recycle capture Mela men, Maleficorn, thank you.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: H Like, well, then what's the other one puzzling trinket
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: like those kinds of effects and put them on ARCon cards.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: So like.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: You're using a cool concept. But like the way this
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: reads to mind.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: It very much is it's very Commander esque. Yeah, because
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: when you build your Commander deck, you are very much
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: building it a skiboards. You're not building your building.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: So but don't worry our and that modifies the algorithm
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: to build into it, which is what Naturalie sort of
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: was doing.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, or like he says, they're not balanced for competitive
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: play against decks from any other keyboard set.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Akay, we did not play test this at all. So
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: what is the thing that this reads like to me?
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It's like, we're getting more raptors.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you put hass raptors in, I don't care.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: If it is the first deck that I open, it
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: is ripped. I don't care if it is my top
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: SaaS deck, it is being ripped on the spot. If
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: it is hass this raptor and I get this stinker again.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: We're gonna get slayers and uh bulwarks, right, that's what
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: we see on the box and pack. I yeah, I
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: think this is an excuse not to play test, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it's too bad because like I think that concept of.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Concept that could have Yeah, like that's a very casual format.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Right, like like it could be a cool like imagine
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: if they wrote the album. And so it's like, Okay,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: there's like I don't know a dozen different powers your
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: ARCon card could have and it figures out based on
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the deck that was generated. Oh well, there's six card
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: that can trigger off of this, for that could trigger
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: off of that, but there's seven that's this. So we're
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: gonna put the seven trigger power in because you have
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: more opportunities to trigger it, like that could have actually
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: been a really cool things.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I love that you are so optimistic. Well, no, I'm
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: We've been with GG long enough that I already know no,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: that's just not what they're going to do. And I
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: think that the community going ahead and screaming out at them, like, guys,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you already know that people are frustrated with Menagerie not
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: being able to be played in tournament wise just opening
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: up another deck and I think someone had actually listed
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: how many sets we've now had within a year span. Now,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: all of these bonus sets all fall into that space.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: But it takes a big toll.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: On your playtesters making sure that it's properly done and
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: if not, we have some real issues. And whether it
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: falls and then well, and that's the question is is
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: it just a hot mess for our playtesters or is
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: it that it's not play tested and so well, we
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: don't have to care then because it's not ARC unworthy.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: And again, does it matter if it's if it's for
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: the people who are around kitchen table who are just
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: jamming out some games, all right, great, they had total fun.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I know, Sheep, you said that Tuesday when we were
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: talking about it. But for the rest of us who
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: are looking for tournament play, are you interested in this?
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: I guess that's the question, Sheep, drazz Wookie, are you
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: interested in this?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: The fact that I can't potentially now mind you, as
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: you guys have seen, every time I open a deck,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: it goes in somebody else's backpack or garbage can anyways,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: so that aspect you would think wouldn't bother me much,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: But actually taking away the gambling aspect of opening a
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: keyfordge deck significantly reduces my interest. Like I have ever
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: only opened exactly the number of Menagerie and on chain
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: decks I have needed to play when that was the
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: only choice to play, plus a few actuals to try
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: to help out in the ABR team, and that was
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: a waste of time.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: If anyone is still looking for some naserie or unchained
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: or unchained, I actually, you guys just wait a second.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go into the closet because I'm pretty sure
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I have a box that I would love to go
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: out and have someone with your garbage. I know that's
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: the problem.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Still unchained, Yeah.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so do I I even have unchained. I have
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: on chain twenty two still celebrations.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the ones that came in the box. Wow the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I so I already told my store owner that like
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: he should only buy a very small number of crucible
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: clash until we know what it is, and we'll we'll
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: buy plenty of prophetic visions.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: But all right, so a box of unchained is what
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: is there? If anyone's looking for a great deal, come
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: talk to e walk here, because sheep, you also said
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: that you have Ault Master twenty three. I have six
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: of those beauties just still sealed, and uh, they could
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: really go to a good home versus this.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Is a guy can play that and only bought six
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: stacks of each each of the newest set, and he
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: doesn't even open his old stuff.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: So no, I no, I like to taking it for sealed.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: You can open VM twenty three for sealed, true, nah,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: we could.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: No when when there is another six sets that have
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: been produced since then, It's more important to just you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: open something.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, some sucker is asking one hundred and twenty bucks
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: for a box of unchained on the ebays.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Is he getting it?
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Probably not not yet.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: We'll tell you I have boxes of woe for a Hundi.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: So well, there you go to you want some boxes
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: of well, hundred box.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Give you sixty nothing, okay, moving forward, So that's crucial clash.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I'm interested. I kind of thought this was going to
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: be what we were going to be playing for Sealed
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: for Vault Tours next year, And the more I read
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: this article, the more I read that that's probably not
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: going to be the situation. We are going to be
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: playing for Pete's vision of Sealed.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah that would be Yeah, that'd be better.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like Yeah, I could care less about
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: this stuff. I think I think it is. It's it
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: is this year's version of Menagerie or Unchained. You know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: they're they're interesting because it gives Gigi a place to
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: try some fun concepts that don't have to be power
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: balanced because it's me, you know, it doesn't matter.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like just limited resources, like I will.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I will play this once and and then uh and
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: then I'll be done with it.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I like your viewpoint sheet, because this isn't I was
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: just saying it was a complete waste of time and money.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: So that's where I was at. But you know, way
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: to turn into new positive.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: I mean like I'm not buying it. I have no
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: interest in it, but that doesn't mean I won't play
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: it once, just like I, you know, played Dark Tidings
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: the other day when I was forced to like it
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: can happen it's did you.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Raise your eyes and lose with our creator card?
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been better than playing those games
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: in the end. This is this is another product that
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: like if key Forde was digital, I'd be all for
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: some of this stuff where it'd be like and they
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: had like Crucible Clash and no, well not unchained on
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: chain can go away. That was a first attempt at
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: an idea that wasn't well enough fleshed out. Menagerie's flying
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: tweak the couple of packets and in digital it's easy, right,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: get rid of the stupid hass raptors and you put
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: in a couple others and you can like it's like
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: it's like the other guy onlines, like because the decks,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: if the decks aren't meant to be persistent, especially like
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: then every you know month, they can tweak the pods
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: up and down a little bit to keep them fun
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: and then cycle through the rotation of these different things
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: and have that as a side thing you're doing, Like
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: there's core ky forge and there's the side silly shit
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: you can play sometimes too, but that's in a land
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: of digital where stuff isn't persistent and it doesn't matter.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: But in this world of we only get to play
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: them in cardboard and then we're stuck with them forever
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: we do. I don't need a lot more of this.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Not anymore going back and I'm scanning all my old
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: decks in and then throwing them in the trash.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Why stand them in then?
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Just in case ever, let's say something ever comes back,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: because I never scanned all my decks back in because
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's a waste of my time.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I know half of these are not going.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Anywhere and still a waste your time. Well, just in
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: case you don't you don't get a digital space dollar
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: for them, and you don't, I mean, I guess if
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: you want to reprint them, if you want to be
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: able to reprint them and not own them.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Little little insurance just just in case.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I rescanned almost everything but Master Vault and d ok
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: says I have like a ten car ten deck difference.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: D ok s has like ten decks. More so somewhere
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: there's ten decks I never scanned scammed.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: So the real question is, boys, what's going to happen
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: when de Ok goes away?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: M that would be bad? Draw Better I can't disagree
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: But which is also.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: It's not it's not going away. That is not what we're.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Saying, chat, I mean every time, right Nova Nova, Like
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: there's enough there where between the folks helping score stuff
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and Patreon dollars, Nova seems to be just updating things right,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: but not making massive improvements right, So at least for now,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that's why we dress card to finish up draw Better
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: dot cards because somewhere along.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: The way, dude, so I pulled I pulled down Southerly's code.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I'm reading this ship. I'm like, holy crap, there's so
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: much custom code in here for like stupid specific cards.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: And then likely we appreciate there's no there's no easy
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: way to rebuild the database.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And it's like any found the love of his life
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: or something like yeah he's like happy or something that's weird.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: Weird like come back to being miserable. Yeah, yeah, all
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: right that yeah clash.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Let's finish out the weekend from Kate Kate FC Well
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: how about the foil cards we're starting out? Yes, yes,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: sorry I did forget about foil cards. That is your
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: damn right, that's my baby. I've only been bitching about
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it for one too, like four years, three years.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Now you ain't getting paid for it, so quit asking.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I know. Well now they're coming, right, It is cool.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know exactly what it's a don't so
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: it's a retailer only exclusive. We don't exactly know what
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: it means. Does it mean that every card in the
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: deck is foiled? Does it mean one card in the deck?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Does it mean the arc on card, the rules card?
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: What does it mean?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Way for them to do it would be every card
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: of the deck would be foil. I mean that would
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: be pretty cool because I mean that would make the
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: most sense because I think they print the decks on
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: a sheet like all. That's not like normal where it's
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: like they print a bunch and then they get they
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: get crazy. I think they print all the decks. I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: think it's like two or three decks fit on one sheet, right,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember what the number was.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: It was stated like last year.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: If we can go back and watch that video and
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: count and figure it out right.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: And so they're printed all together, so it would make
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the most set because like doing a card would be
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: a pain, and then you're gonna have decks missing cards
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So that for me, it makes
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the most sense to do it all together. Just me
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: could be but we'll have to. I mean that'd be
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I hope. So we've got a sheep on it. Since
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: he is in charge of a game store, he'll tell.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Us, do you know anything more sheep?
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Now he doesn't even care. He's like this, this game
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: has cards.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I just what about foil cards? I'm excited. I am too.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I like foil cards. I've been asking for for a
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: long time.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Sorry, foil card. You only get one card cards, so
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: possible card we don't know?
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Is it singular or is it plural?
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: We don't know.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: I okay, I gotta go back, but I'm pretty sure.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: It was singular.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Well, because we all know Gigi is known for their
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: great I mean, they have anything, they got my great
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: grammar skills, skull, you know, anything's possible. Need I remind
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you of the article last week that had a card
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: up that had five different cards all in.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: One total total bonkers town.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Well I'm in true ac fashion and I'm going with card.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sticking with it. Well, it'll be your haptist raptors there.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: You got to them. Here's my donation. That sounds about right.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: It'll be you didn't even swear, you have to swear,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: don't Yeah, you don't even swear.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: You just got to let it out. You don't get
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: to take your money back, take my head in my head.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Swears don't count. That swears do not count. All right,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: final day of KFC, and I think we should actually
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: rate them. Big thing we did the Tide.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: We're getting the Tide card that is going to go ahead,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: and well they're saying the rules card is what's going
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: to go ahead and be foiled tied card.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: If it's the rules card, I'm just going full time
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: to altered. I'm done, Like, yeah, we finally made foiled
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: cards and it's the rules card. I'd be like, you
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: know what, fuck you, here's here's my dollar, here's your
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: key forge you have a great day. Maybe that's what
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: they're gonna do because they're like, oh, we finally found
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: a way to get rid of Wookie ship. Let's do it,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: all right. So the Creator cards. We didn't talk a
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: lot about the Creator cards, but the Creator cards were
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: a big hit all weekend. I was constantly harassed for ours,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: and I was constantly out of ours. I guess I
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: just gave away too many in the beginning. And then
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I actually don't have one of our own creator cards.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: You do anyway?
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: What?
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Because You're like, here, hold this for me. I was like, okay, yeah,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I did. You got mine and I was like, there's
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: no way you're ever getting this now.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you gave it to me at the hotel
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I have I have no bag on me,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: know nothing, You're just handing it to me. Think.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was excited. They weren't cool, So it's
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. I guess we should talk about our card
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit. I'm gonna say we can reveal our card.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I gotta go find our conversation with dead Sink. I
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: got it here. So it's a The Arcons Corner Creator card,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: so podcast web app. So the art is awesome. It's
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: a bar of course, happy hour last four to six weeks.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: It says on the sign, uh the there's a swear job.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: The hour is four to six pm.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Is that PM not w K. That's it's hard to say. Sure,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: four to six, And then there's a swear jar full November.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Uh and uh, there's a bottle of alert over in
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: the corner. It's a good it's a good time the U.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: And then it says, because you know, we gotta we
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: gotta lift our ac life, we got to make something,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: you know, pretty strong. So once perturn, the active player says,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: this is why I suck at KeyForge, they lose one umber.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: If they do they draw three cards, so that seems strong.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: But then you know, it just gets better from there.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Right after an action card is played, destroy a creature
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: with exactly six power because you know, gotta kill Brile.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, then of course, because you know, for all
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: you DT best set folks out there, after a player
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: raises the tide, they lose the game, which just makes
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: me laugh so much. Then, of course, because we have
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: great math skills, you have one hundred and forty one
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: point sixty seven chance of winning. Is the flavor text,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: so pretty uh.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: One person has messaged me and understood the reference, and
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I love it. It's my It's one of my favorite,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: like Little Cup Secrets at the bottom one person. It's
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a Gigi's staff member, and that was the greatest flavor
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: text of all time, and even stated.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: What it was. I had to ask you myself.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: It is a from the greatest wrestling promo of all time.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: If you all want to go watch it. It's a
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: promo called Steiner Math from TNA, and that's it's It's fantastic.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing ever. It made sense because we're
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: terrible with math, and we just make things up, and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: that's what that whole promo was. It was just a
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: bunch of made up, fucking numbers because if you actually
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: do if you actually do the Steiner Math, none of
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: it's correct. So therefore a little more easter Egg.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: In there for you.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: So I think we should rate all the creator cards.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're all in one place where
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: we could them. I think we can six. Definitely a
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: six and no bias there or nothing.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: No Riku just posted pictures of them and probably HF
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: F S.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, well we can grab that. Somebody grabbed that picture
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: and then we can we can do the one through six.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: That could be fun. I have them all or you
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: have them all, and you could take a picture of them.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: We could do the same. But yes, Sunday I was
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: on top of this shit. I don't know what you
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: guys were doing.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Really were Sunday, Let's get day. We had ARCon Worlds
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the Arkon open all right.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: So if I did that correctly, I just posted them
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: all for ac live show notes.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: It bounced me for a bit, but that should be all.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: Ten of them that you can go ahead and see
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: for all those following along.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: And I don't know who they got to do the art.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: If that's AI art, that that's pretty on point. I
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: think I think it is. Well, I think it's a mix.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: So I feel like a bunch of it's AI. I
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: feel like.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: On the wark cast they said that that was uh.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I think it was Tobin's daughter that did it. Is
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: what I have floating in my head. Not harmisent Sure
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: that's correct, But yeah, so I think it's it's a mix.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Well, well we'll figure all that out later. But we
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: still got a whole Sunday to go through. So let's see.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Arcan World's winner would be Bamboo, right, yes, okay, Castro
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: pronounce the deck? Oh lord, I gotta open it. Nope,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: not not even trying that one.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Come on, come on, luckie.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Being the uh.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Well done, that was so sore.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Now now all of Vietnam hates us.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Thanks case.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: And then I believe the Art Open winner was Riku. Yes,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: so it was Vietnam forge for our for true as
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: she calls it, true key forge. Yeah, a love story.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah our ur kind of being gr which we had
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: seen as a beast all year long. Uh. Interestingly, Riku
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: did take Amber Skies to go ahead and take down
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: the open. Yep, what do you guys think about their
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: two winners?
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Surprised?
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I think the Vietnam. I think I need all my
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: decks to come from the Vietnam case that.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Is accurate.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Because that that was not like any umber skys neck
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I have opened and or seen that exists.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that Ember Scott, So I had to
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: play it twice in the open. This is the only
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: deck I lost to in the main round and the
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: only deck I lost to, and I guess the top
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: top four I lost to this.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, talk talk to us a little bit about what
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: what did you run into that presented some problems?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: So it it makes Ember better than DK would would
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: make you think. And it is then it's oppressive nineteen
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: twelve printed expect Us nineteen which is fine, right, but
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: it makes it it pushes and the disruption is oppressive. Right.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: So it's got double suspend amanders, doble suspend amander, the
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: vapor imp, it's got the snudge, it's got the corner
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: of the market, so with the talent scout with a
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: double hoist operation, so there's just a ton of of
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: ways to just mess with you, uh, pretty regularly. Then
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: it's got the imperium charge and the Titan century, so
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: you gotta be really careful with what you're archiving. And
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: uh it it is like this deck is. It's got
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: the drumble it like it is. It is pretty pretty
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: oppressive to to play against. And I uh and I
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: lost both times. The it's got the arise YEA I
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: was going to say was jumping out.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: So the drumble dust and Monsquito Terreene, snudge, double suspend
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: there and vapor am coming off with that arise so decent.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, plus the uh the skipper hooko is also got
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: the dis icon on it, which is pretty solid. And yeah,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: so that arise just brings back a flood of stuff, right,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: and it's got the Fiendish Apprentice, which gives three damage
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: for eat your disc creatures, so you just deal a
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: ton of damage for that. It's got the cauterized Vitality
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: and just take care of any problem artifact has, yep.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: It's got a board wipe in de escalation. That Phoenix
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Apprentice is like a quasi board wipe honestly, and uh
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: it it yeah, it just it can create lots of
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: pressure and lots of ways to mess with you, lots
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: of to take you off.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: So the logo is not being yeah logos not being
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: a super house, but Titan century being there.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Connective transfer pretty good. It's got the quantum compass right
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: and desk.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: It's got the compass.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: The connectum transfer right.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: It does have ponder which does have a scrap to
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: drug card, which you know it it has some stuff.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it has some stuff, but I think the logo
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: so yeah, it's it's yeah, this this is a pretty
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: pretty solid deck and Riku is just piloting it masterfully, right,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: so you know he's not he's not making mistakes. So
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: you got a you got small windows to try to
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: play into. It's got the sandworm also, I don't think
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I mentioned that with the double Hoyst as well. So
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: it just makes ember and.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: And puts you in a spot where you also has
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: a street of sixteen.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty good. Who won? We don't have I
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: think the control is there? No, we did not sheep
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and LOOKI did you guys end up facing bamboo? For
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: I do not have to know? Okay, so it's gott
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: sleeping again.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: I'm here.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: There we go. I'm here, guys, don't worry about me.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Did you face bamboo? Did you play Bamboo's dead? Now?
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I did not?
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Okay? So well a memory, right, that's a standout great card.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Uh double junk restoration here somewhere. It's got the ecdo
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: charge with the boo. It does not have winds of
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: death or key abduction, but doesn't it Uh yeah, I
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: would call this Mars lineup. The Mars line up is
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: pretty solid, but it's not. It's not typically what you'd
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: say is crazy.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have rebel. It does have a doctor with
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: a Mars first. It does have a target war the
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: world is nice, but it's not what I would call outrageous.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Right, It's only an eight five with a nine to
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: nine speed. But it does have that card we all
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: talk about, Blossom Drake well of memory. Yeah, Blossom Blossom.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: You know that problem card, Blossom Drake.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I mean your deck, right, like, like, yeah, she's got
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: what well of memory and plow swords. She doesn't care
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: about the plow sword memory. Yes, obviously memory obviously want
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: to trigger the wall memory. But Blossom Drake is a
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: pretty good counter to your opponent's artifacts until you can
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: get your reclaimed by nature or your glimmer spore. So
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: there's lots of artifact hate in this deck.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: It's got a reclaimed as well. I don't know if
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: you said reclaim, but if you did, yes, it has
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: a reclaimed.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: And it's got jersey so you can save something for
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: later when you need right. So it's got double junk
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: in here somewhere. That's pretty good. The only dead card
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: in MYRS, I would say, is probably the over clock
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Shock Collar. I mean, it doesn't have any of the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: crazy stuff you would want to see in MYRS, but
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: it has enough to get her done. I mean it
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a Myers. First to do the zixel fricks.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: You can do the sixel fricks target YadA, YadA, and
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: then the untamed is kind of to be honest, with
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: the underwhelming, there's not one it's got invigorating shower.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Till the earth blossom. Drake Jersey is a good card,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: but he's got to be able to reap two Warfelin's awesome, which.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: You can scrap it and then use regrowth for it.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, there there are some different lines invigorating shower
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: in order to be able to bring back that Geistoite
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: is another option too. But I know that a number
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: of people had actually talked about this deck as being
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: Alliance worthy from its construction, and so looking at it,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: it does not immediately jump out as that. But looking
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: at turn two in three, it pretty consistently shut down
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of major decks, and so it was a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: very interesting build.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it, but I think I think I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: already see the card that causes a lot of trouble.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Which one's that it's.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: More trouble than you would think of would the fucking
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: void proverbs m making people should cost plus three does
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: throw a wrench into a lot of people's game plans.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but the only way to trigger on
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: play is the Mars first.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: You don't trigger it out of play. It's a four power, right,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: it's either you're going to trade with me, because nobody's
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: playing Brobnar. Let's just be honest. Nobody's playing Reminders Brabner
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: except for Pirate, and he finished top eight, but he
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: was the only one I was seeing playing Brobner. I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: don't think they ever had to come to blows.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, doctor Zi indivoid can come in ready and
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: and reap something like there's some options.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: There's options there, but like void prober causes more issues,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: and I need to give him more solid.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: He's solid.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I need to give it more respect than what it
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: is because and not only that, he's flexible.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: And you do have both Snippy and I'll be astray
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: to handle brio. Right, So that's that's important, except when
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: it's behind double type.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I don't right, So I don't know how much brio
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: we saw. No, I don't think you saw literally almost
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: any brio in the Yeah, I mean it was a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: top eight.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: She's pretty good, Top eight worlds.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: She made top eight.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Well that is, you know, we could definitely sneeze it.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: That all right, let's see, I gotta go back over
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: to here. Our cut ar cut ARCon I'm looking for Alliance.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Uh DeMott was your Alliance champion? Aviator was the runner up?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Was he playing frog Legs deck?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Playing frog Legs Deck?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Was it?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Was?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: It?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Okay? But the by the way, frog Legs in chat
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: right now has updated his icon to Prince Buffa, which.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Is not as he as I would expect. Not because
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: he he might be my next I have all of
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: my narps. Prince might be my next uh maverick that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I collect.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, there you go. I think you should do it.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Because I like for they Look at that guy we're
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: in a crown smoking a pipe in his little bath,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: in his little bathroom, it's great.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I think you should get put the a c shreder
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: belt on him and may get your icon.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Oh maybe Alliance open h was your champion with your
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: runner up of snack. So congrants to everybody there while
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: everyone was busy competing, uh the all the other crummy
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: players we did the podcasters, the podcaster panel, you had
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: us help your future self, sloppy lab work, rule of
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: six and warcraft reforged all there. I believe it's on
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: the in their little video which I'm not a part of.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Every other person in this podcast is a part of it,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: except for the rookie would.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: You like sitting at the back at the time or something?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: What did you want to go ahead and actually like
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: shout out to the keeps who made Alliance in sealed
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: or no, I mean you've got our champs, So yes, yes,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: I got the chance. Yeah, it looked like Aviator was
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: running redemption untamed in diss from uh talk.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: So I see, yes, Actually this is interesting. So that
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: was GI was winners gr then there's a talk runner up.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Top four was gr GR, eight was gr g r
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: gr GR. So Alliance was a ton World Champs was
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: a ton of.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Gr buy more gr.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's see so arcan worlds was g R
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: gr gr talk talk Coda, that's doctor sheep gr GR
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: So uh lots uh Now actually did they say for
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: open hold on, let's see open? I bet you it's
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: a little more diverse because people are trying different stuff.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: So uh amber amber Sky's was RIKU right, gr gr
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: amber Sky's that's me was talk uh amber Sky's four
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: and gr So the the open was a little more diverse.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I think folks were more willing to try something new
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: like that. That's what I did right. I used Professor
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: thround the Spirited Deuce instead of uh Aria Pylon Genius,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: which I've been using basically all season, because I was like, hey,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: it's the open, I'll do a little more untested. Also,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: I just bought it and like all of.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Alliance was grim reminders except for Aviator, who was tough.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Yep, all right, so Alliance open. Let's see AOA g
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: r gr gr amber Sky's DT its bott or not? Okay,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Actually I don't think I talked to bottlenow I see
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: him online. Oh I should have said, figure out who
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: that was? And another DAVEC had worlds collide and then AOA.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: So yep, yeah, all right, I need to say. I mean,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: you guys can go. I think worcast Reforge has all
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: of the podcasters panel we did recorded and out there,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: so if you want to listen to that, you can
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: go go to them listen to the whole thing.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: I will say, shout out to all of our fellow
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: podcasters who are there so help from future self, Sloppy
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: lab Work, Rule of six and war caast re Forge.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: It was great to be able to spend time with
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: you and everyone who showed up. That room was packed
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: I know, Wookie, you were a little skeptical, but we
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: had people showing up early and was crazy Sydney.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Forced for Sydney didn't outfloorce people. I went in and
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: there are plenty who are already there all right.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Listening to it doesn't give me the visual effect of
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Wookie falling asleep and he walking. I got him.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: He did not fall asleep. They were just beating me
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: because they wanted to, so very targeted. Because I'm They're like,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: not falling asleep. I'm like, I'm not fucking sleeping.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: He was sleeping. Let me tell you he was sleeping.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: The snoring tells otherwise, all right. So so at one
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: point she leads over to me and he's like, I
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: should be playing TCO right now, TCO right now. You
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: also know how to cast unless he's playing TCO at
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: the same time.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: That's what takes so long. Sometimes you got to finish
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: his turn. But you can go listen to that. You
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: can't see the person on my left and right just
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: brutally beating me for no reason. But I was getting
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: beat Ah are the events we held the first ever
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Shredder World Championships, which was won by the Monkey and
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: for those of you wondering, Yes, Shredder is it does
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: have more of a rules set than what we did
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: for the championships. We just decided to have a little
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: fun and make the two top people just shred one
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: deck and whoever whoever finished first.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: One Yeah, I mean so tear cards. Yeah, we were
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: so weird with rock and roll.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had two people who finished three and oh
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: and we had them with a fresh deck. See who
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: could tear fastest? And that is a great way to
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: be able to crown our Shredder World champion.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: I love it. So who tears fast and who tears slow?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: What did we learn?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Did you find okay?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: So we should we should stay Who the finals was
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: between because they'd go three finalists?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Was then the monkey and I'm not sure who was
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: the other? Who was the other one? Jovi and we
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: we basically sat up. They did not know how it
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: was going to go.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: We don't think it.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Anyone knew, like true fashion.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: What we knew we did right before and we set
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: them down and we said, all rights, here's a fresh
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: deck first person.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: When we were at the bar midnight, this is a
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: good idea.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: And then we put it in a practice I love it,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: and we're like, whoever shreds first wins and they shredded
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Ben shred fastest and went home with a nice belt.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: Well there was I will say there was a little
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: choice from Joe Jovie went where the whole deck or
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: most of it to start with, and that just slowed
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: them up just a pinch.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Uh So this slight replay.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Ben was just going, here's a couple of cards, two,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: three at a time, and that was the difference. But
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: I really I think I won overall boys and girls
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: because I had everybody take our shredder cards and you
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: guys said it was going to be horrible, but I said,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: don't listen to you. No, it was great. We went
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: to had and tossed up all of those cards and
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: had it rained down confetti style and I dove under
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: it and it was the best part of KFC.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: I loved it.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: And Dad Sink got some amazing photos of it too,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: so yeah, it was sweet.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: If you'd like to see those, you can go over
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: to our TikTok. It's our most recent TikTok. I have
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: some of the pictures from it over there. And then
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: one other talk yep, we have a TikTok should do
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: You should go watch the second most recent one. That's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: pretty good. The only I know we had some commander
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: going on. Kagi was a thing that happened. I don't
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: really know how any of those events went.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: It seemed like people had a good time. Like so,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: I thought the community events were like a really cool idea.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Somebody's mentioning actually in our chat in the live show
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: tonight that like, oh they thought maybe there would be
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: menagerie or whatever going on like at the vaults, but
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: there wasn't. I think just having so many different folks
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: in the community running so many different events like that
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: was the great like awesome thing to do for for KFC,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: And I think, uh, it was cool. People are having
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: a great time with participation in those things, and uh
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: you know they were a hit. Yeah, Stormstrongs who took
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: down Kagi shut out?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: What's kagy?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: That's why I put it in so at least someone
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: would get.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: A shut out.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all you do, dt ao A only.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: I tell you why. Nothing in dt was ever part
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: of Garfield's original dream.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: So then we go to the meet that is that
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: meet the ghosts or meet you had meet the guests
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: in here at one point is why.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: You did that? Yeah, so I just type things. You
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: just type things, all right. I typed all this on
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: my phone and then pasted it.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: On the You were turning into me and like, forgot
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: how to spell? I mean, I don't know to spell.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Spelling is not really a thing that's important.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: It's it's like a parlor as you live on a
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: throne of lies.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Why do you need to spell? You don't need to
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: spell anything anymore.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: I agree because in high school I heard a great
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: story from a veteran who came in who talked about
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: going ahead and uh, just a little misunderstanding from spelling
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: really had two very very different meanings for the word.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: We'll just leave it at.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: That, all right. Maybe one day we'll have a hot
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: cocoa session where we all get together and drink warm
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: drinks and ewok and tell us like spelling is important stories.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: But okay, so the only one to attend meet the
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: ghosts because the rest of us went home.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a good choice.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, I believe after reading this we made our choices correctly.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, you were asleep within ten minutes of being
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: in my car.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, for the fifteenth time. Yes, I fell asleep.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Uh huh, you.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Fall asleep everywhere.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: Just yeah, that's right, cheap we got just like.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: In a panel, Just like fall asleep in the panel,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: but in your car. Yeah, I fell asleep ten minutes in.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: It might have been ten minutes in, very much might
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: have been. But they talked about straddle flight because I'm
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: sure somebody asked where it went. It was a second
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: battle line. It was too hard to balance. Experiments didn't
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: work out competitively. Yep, crucible cast any plans, it's something
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people have been asking for. Would
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: would have to be sustainable. Team, very small, hard to
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: prioritize maybe in the future, but might need growth.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: So guys, do you see whenever there's something that might
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: have any amount of difficulty, we just say the team's
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: too small. But we're producing a bajillion and a half
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: sets anyway.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm done. That's that's my box.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: You gotta remember a bajillion of those bajillion and a
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: half sets aren't tested, so it doesn't matter.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Just remember, help put them into things that people want instead. Like,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: it's just it's odd.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: It's odd that we say here here's four to six weeks,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: or hey, we can't do this, but then other things
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: we are doing in the background, and like people aren't
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: looking for that. No, we don't need another three sets
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: that aren't tested, or this set that doesn't have any
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: impact on ability to play it after a sealed event.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: That's here, Like, no, I don't.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Know if you are looking for.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: If we're a small if we're a small team, then
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: make it manageable, make it meaningful, but don't use it
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: as an excuse, because that's what I keep seeing is
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: an excuse.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: But why do we need one? Like what are people
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: hoping to gain from the crucible cast that they aren't communication?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: Communication that frankly right now isn't consistent.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: And it's like just to be like, hey, guys are
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: still alive, We're still testing.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Hey guys, we're coming out with another set that we
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: didn't We're.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Still testing prophetic visions and tests are going good. I mean,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: how long before we get I mean.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: There's plenty of ways to do it to generate excitement,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Like we're play testing. Oh, let's look at this one car, you.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: Know, Like, and I think that's what people are looking at,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: is that in the past we used to go ahead,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: we'd look at a few cars, oh, some excitement, some teasers,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: and gone.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: The last several have been changed.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: I can't disagree with you, sheep, I can't, but still
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: you get people buzzing about it. I don't know clearly.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: What they said was was that their team is small,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: it's hard to prioritize, so like they don't think that
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: this is as important as other things. That's basically what
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: they said.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: Since you're stealing our ideas anyway, why don't you send
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: it some of the content to the some of the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: content creators who are frankly are already creating content for you,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: and you could go ahead and then post it on
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: your own individual website and we could go through the
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: cards and talk about them, because we already have fan
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: bases and viewership and people who are interested in and
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: could give you some.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Feedback on that.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: Uh, you don't even need the setup because guess what,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: we already have that. But just just an idea, just
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: to throw it out there.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Man, he walks on fire today. I don't know who
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: lit a I don't know who lit a fire under
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: his ass, but good.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Job, Happy Thanksgiving?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving? What is idmm?
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I was just trying to figure out what
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: the hell that is.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's more mass mutations, but I like, but
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: if you.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Look at I'm not sure that's what is that an.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: I think it's an I D and I don't need
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: I no, no, I don't need more mass mutation.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what I was trying
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: But then they're gonna look at results consider along with
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: a RATTA an Alliance ban list plea for.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: And then somebody was removal. Yeah, so removing, oh, missile
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Officer Myers. So this is interdimensional rescue I think, and
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Missile Officer Myers. That's what it is, so it should
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: be I D R. Yes, And they're like, can't you
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: just change the rules so it's not infinite? I think
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: that's what it it was. And they said, hey, we're
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: gonna look at results. We're gonna consider a rat.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Did fuck all?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're like, we can't you just fix You're welcome,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: but a condo that did absolutely nothing during the entire
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Vault Tour season, Like it was like, hey, this might
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: be a thing in the beginning of the season, and
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: then it did piss off like it did nothing. You
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: did not see an interdimensional rescue, missile offs or myers.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's one hundred percent true, but
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: but to me, the bigger problem is just the watch
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: to watch me play? Right, Like don't that.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Watch me play? Like whoever gets watched me?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's there's bad stuff in there. This they could
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: fix with just a rule fix, but at least think better.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: It just just shuffled around cards except make you watch them.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Well okay, but like it didn't do anything.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Which is the worst thing you just got. That's worse
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: than strong things.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think it really matters. I
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: nerve somebody wanted to switch. Who's who is this?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah? They're my new favorite person.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Uh you know that's a good question. I don't actually
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: remember who this was, but yeah it was not. I
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: did not say this, but somebody did, and I knew
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: you would be happy. And the answer is don't hold
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: your breath. Yeah, piss off.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I don't understand why bait and switch is still
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: nerve the way it is.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: There's no incentive for them to go back to f
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: FG stuff and change it, So why does it matter
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: when we have redline rotation. That's right there. Now, Like,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: I just don't understand.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Why does we have a card now that basically does
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: the same thing ish, But I'm saying, like.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so doesn't it just just play it with how
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: it's worded. It doesn't matter anymore. It shouldn't be nerved done. Yeah,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: should I'm arguing for you. I'm not arguing for you.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Sheet for you. Wim Key Forge I P. I'm guessing
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: this is for the RPG game. Yeah, Edge studio.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Somebody asked if we were going to still see
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: anything else, but yeah, the Edge Studio holds the rights,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: so they can't do anything until that expires.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: There you go up, go ahead, go ahead, you walk,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: go ahead, and highlight the whole thing. Aaron is Discovery
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: marketing plan.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: This was marketing plan. I was like, can you please
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: describe to us the marketing plan for Discovery because we're
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: excited to engage new members of the community. One lie,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to try to engage if there's a marketing
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: I want, I want to work store contact.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: You saw it, you saw the marketing for it. It's
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: already done.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, so so this is why I was poking
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: at it was like, we need marketing be yep, how
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: did that turn out for you? Well, I mean they said, well,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: we contact stores, we communicated events. They're gonna they have kids,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: a target, new players pathway and a path to play
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: and grow community. Four to six weeks to announce joke
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: and then they have said the joke. Who is the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: who said the four to six weeks? So they said,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: we won't say four to six weeks. They said, but
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: but who was it?
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Was it Jeremy? My money is on Jeremy? I think
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: I think it was Jeremy, my money is on Germany?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: And then I think then CTP said something effect yeah,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: we can't say that. You can't say no, not allowed
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: to So then growth goals.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna guess there was a good contingent
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: of players from Taiwan there and they want a vault.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: I can't see why they wouldn't, But possible publishing partners
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: preferred financial responsibility for those who will assist.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so basically, yeah, the international partner is the
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: one that puts on the vault and is the one
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: who takes basically all the financial risk. So it's not
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: about is Gigi doing it or not. It's about having
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: a partner willing to pay for it. That's basically what
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: they said.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: Sounds like par for the course accolades and print on
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: demand expansions and templating.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we had talked a little bit about this
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: last time. Lookie, this is the accolades that are going
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: on the decks for reprinting for accomplishment and how they
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: had already tried to expand potentially to top eights and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: there was discussion of that already.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see is a set is set house concentration
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: of problem and what do you do?
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so somebody's like, I get more of a house
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: out a box and they're like, well, we're paying attention
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: a right, you know. Uh okay, I don't know.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: This is another one of those things where the brain
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: tries to recognize patterns and it's not real.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is that I'm not even sure that's what now.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what this question is.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: I get that, but when you start to see the
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: same rears in individual houses.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Your brain tries to make things and it's not real.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: I understand.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: You can go ahead and tell me that all the time,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: but when I'm pulling from three individual decks and I've
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: never seen this rare, and all of a sudden, there
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: are three in a row in the same box. That
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: seems really suspicious to me because it's a lot easier
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: for my printer to go ahead and print off that
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: same rear while in sequence. You can tell me all
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: that you want, But when I show a higher amount three,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: four or five times in this box and I've never
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: seen it, I got issues with that.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you you're wrong because I I recognize
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: the same patterns as well, but I'm told I'm just crazy.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: So I just go back to my corner.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: Accolades for store or online leagues could add more, but
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: don't want to add to everything.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically, like I actually thought this was a
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: cool idea, like, hey, let us run like a league
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: tournament or store champs and upload a logo where it's like, hey,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: this deck won that or whatever. And they they, they said,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: we might be able to do a little more that
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: we're doing right now, but we don't want to just
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: like open it to the world of you know, you
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: could just put anything on a deck. I want to
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: put anything on a deck. Yeah, I because it becomes
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: less meaningful.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: Because have you seen some of the names people have
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: snucked in on the naming algorithm. That's why you are responsible.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: I am not responsible.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have nothing to do with that. By the way,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I just want to let everybody know that it's definitely
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: not us bad people to you guys who put it in.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: The always entertainers.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: We're entertaining people.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Store champs more often?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, twice a year to match with the different sets,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: individual sets, And the answer.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Was nope, that's right. So instaid they want to do
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: more Martian Civil War type things, maybe even do stuff
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: like that more often, but they want to do store
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: champs once. So which if they did multiple Martian Civil
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: War type things in a year, I would actually like
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: that more than a store champ personally. So now well
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: they actually do that, I don't know, but.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: That that's what they were saying there. Preference was, can't
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: talk about kits right now. I'm guessing this is for
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: local op yep, local.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, can you talk about kids, Nope, can't talk
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: about kids.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, they can't talk about it because they don't have one.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: They have no idea what to do for local op.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: They have no idea how to distribute it. That the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: effect for local op is that they don't know. Suck
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: it up, Buttercup, do it yourselves because it costs them
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: zero dollars for you to do the work. That about
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: sum that up. They also don't make as much money,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: so I don't think that. Yes, they've got all their
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: eggs in this damn Game Found thing. Yeah, that's where
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: all their eggs are. Twice a year they do a
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Game Found. So CTP could buy another boat.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's buying boats off this dude.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, where are we at right now?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Or boats are expensive and I don't think, Hey, Ford
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: is that problem?
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's well, it's just a boat, like maybe it's
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: just a bass boat. Maybe he's a big fisher.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Who knows. I think it's it's like one of those
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: plastic boats you put in your bathtub.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Right, Steve Scoob, Steve goob with Steve all right, So
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: again they don't have any kits. So again local op
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: is problem. Don't expect it in twenty twenty five.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: See this is my problem.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: Like when we were talking earlier about Game Found, part
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: of me is excited. I want to be able to
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: have some investment. I want to be able to get
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: some decks, and then.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: You see.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: You see this for local OP and it's just absolutely depressing,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: and it's like, well, why why why don't I go
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: play the game in the area.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Your OP experience is with your local OP.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love my local OPE, and I still
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: I think the game is absolutely phenomenal. I just want
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: more from it. I think that the community is frankly
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: putting on amazing activities and amazing events to go with it,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: just not seeing Gigi care as much about it. And
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: that's from the prizes that we're there for worlds, which
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: were absolutely pathetic to what we saw this year. But
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: you didn't have that big of a loss. And I
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: think it's because the community itself is absolutely amazing.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: No, I wish it.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Was because we throw giant parties because we can all
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: have fun. Right.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: It is a great community. It is a great community.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Because the community is doing a majority of the work. Now,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: if we didn't have a Giant party where we all
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: got together at the end and kind of just hung
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: out and played games and maybe shared a beverage or sixteen,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, if you're having the same amount of fun,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: and maybe people go, maybe this wasn't worth it, Maybe
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: all this money, time and effort wasn't worth what I
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: go to next year. But the fact is, yes, the
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: community is holding this damn thing together. Like if it
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't for that party. I don't know. Maybe I go
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: to worlds, Maybe I don't, but I know I think
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I got to party with Dan and drafscrps, got to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: have a few drinks with people that I never met before,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: talked to a whole bunch of people that I've never
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: talked to before like that. I'm telling you right now.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: It is those to watch Sheep Suplex Sydney. I didn't
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: get to watch that. I'm very anyone has video, please
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: send it to me. Such a good time because I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: got suckered into manning the table.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Ah he got shot of alert. Yeah, and all I
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: got was crummi alart. But it's not bad after like
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: the sixth or seventh one, but that's you're used to it.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: I think you should have a shirt for next year.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: And all I got was this allart.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: That's probably true. And then I got money taken away
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: by who was it snack? Somebody stuck money in my pants,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: and then Sydney, Sydney stole it from me.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: Hey, hey, just because Ghostbuster girls showed up and gave
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: you money again, does not.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I think it was snack. I think snack stuff money.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: And he stuck a twenty into my drawers.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: No, I understand it was snack, and we'll give credit
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: for this, but I'm still going.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: With And then and then Sydney took it out of
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: my drawers. Nice threw me into the street and called
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: me a dirty horror. But you know, she spit on me.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: It's a story. I'm telling the all rumors I've made
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: up all right, working on playstyles literally every day doesn't
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: show everything is bolted onto it. Bad software practices.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I added the bad software. As they were
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: talking about how how much time they were working on
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: playstyle and how everything is bolted onto it, I was like,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: this just sounds like you've terrible software, Like like, do
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: not keep attaching features to a thing that does not work?
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Like nothing will ever work if you just keep piling
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: crap on a pile of crap, like like you're not
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: even polishing the crap, You're just you're just on top,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: like the turn.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: So we started off with quite a bit of joy,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: and in true AC fashion, we've we've brought it back
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: to reality here boys, all right?
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Got it? Oh man, it was a great time. I
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: love this, I love the community.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: It's just so it's so much wasted, wasted, wasted potential.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: Like there's so much here and we're trying to do
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: it on a shoe string budget. But the budget's much
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: larger than the shoe string, and it's just ah, it's
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: so it's so frustrating because you do see the potential
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  Speaker 4: here and I understand, like they want to make money
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  Speaker 4: and you can't spend all the money if you want
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  Speaker 4: to make money, and it's like yes, but like this
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  Speaker 4: could be so much more. It's very frustrating. I will
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  Speaker 4: lie to no one. It is extraordinarily frustrating to watch this.
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  Speaker 4: I will say, if you go ahead and put in
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: uh for our goal that the money that I donate
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: is going to local pee and to Vault Tours, I
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: think that may be a way to be able to.
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  Speaker 2: Bring some more people in. I know I would actually
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: go ahad to invest.
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  Speaker 1: The money, man, I would too, but I don't trust it.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: Like at this point, it's like I kind of figured
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: my money was going to end up going to some
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: local op stuff the first time, second time, and it
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: never did. And then it's no, I didn't. I have
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: not participated in a game Found since.
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  Speaker 2: Well no, but I'm saying that's been what we I.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Didn't participate in Grim Reminders, I didn't participate in Ember Skies,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: and I probably will not be participating this time around either,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: because it is incredibly frustrating.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: I I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was very very upset with the we're only going
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: to do this once, just kidding, this is financially stable
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: for us somehow someway, so we need to keep doing this.
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  Speaker 1: But then given like no explanation of the like, okay,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: so this needs to happen because of X, Y and Z.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: It was just done. Like, you can't do that to
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: your community and just continue to pile it on top
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: of them. You are noticing a loss every single time
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: you do it. You're noticing that there's a good chunk
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: that is not coming back to do a game Found again.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: And I feel like if you continue to pile game
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: found upon game found upon game found upon game found
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna have a contingent of people that just
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: aren't going to play your game, and it's just it's
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: it's the broken promises, it's the lies, it's the lack
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: of anything worthwhile going to that is not community run
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: or led at your events like it is, just like
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: Vault Master twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three was a failure,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: and then you did it again and that was a
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: bigger failure than the failure was the first year, Like again,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: why are we You're not even polishing the turd, You're
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: just continuing to pile on onto it.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: What's the name of our horse? I mean it's it's
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: definitely been beaten again.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: But because name is ed, I'm not sure. Okay, I'm
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: gonna try to go to as many vaults again next year's.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: Like you know what, and what's satisfying because the people
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: are amazing.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably try. I probably still do the fucking
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: same and like I'm just it'll thank you, You're welcome.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: It upsets me that I continue to like go to
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: these things, and I go to these things because I
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: do enjoy the people. I do enjoy competing.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I was looking at our chat and it says
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: how to fix play style one control plus a two,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: delete three, use chiallenge. I actually don't think chill is
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: the answer there, but way to go Atlantas.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Worse challenge work, challenge works, just saying I mean, it's
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: like the biggest thing is this. I mean, I know
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: the two l O is better than the double elimination
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: that we had previously, but again that's just.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: It is it. Can't we just go ahead and.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants this? Why do we continue to give people
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: ship they don't want, Like, nobody wants to go to
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: a Vault tour to to play and then go oh
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: to and then go play in second Ember. Nobody wants that.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Even if you're O two. Most people want to continue
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: playing in that main event, right, Like they want to
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: feel like they have a shot. They want to see
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: how they do on the day. This is what they want.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: So why do we continue to take money from people
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: to not give them what they want? Does that makes
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: sense to anybody?
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know anybody out there who has a
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: good thing to say about double elimination or too ELA, right.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: The only the only good thing that I've heard people
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: say about tool is better than the double elimination that
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: was it? Yes, nobody's like man frees up so much
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: time during my weekend. I've paid hundreds of dollars to
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: play in second number right and on the flip side, gentlemen, Oh,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: I've paid hundreds of dollars to make it all the
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: way to get nothing. I know you're trying to go,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna wrap it up here. Yeah, I know
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: it's like it's after twelve thirty here. Oh, I forgot today,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: but we can. We can unfold all this, I suppose
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: another time. We've unfolded all this so many times before,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: and just I don't know is what it is. But
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: that's all that we got for this week. Kieff's key
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  Speaker 1: Ford is done for twenty twenty four, but check out
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Game found if you want.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see y'all next week.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: Happy fortune everyone, May the Forge be with you. I
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: love our community, thankful for that.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 6: Today I've got headaches, bad dog the FEE couldn't touch.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: And know I've got headaches, bad dog the FET couldn't touch.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: You know who I'm not saying. You only have me
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: up for this.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: The ns and.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: Off the shoddest couple show me.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: I can't ever be the sa