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- 0:00Speaker 1: December twenty twenty. You know, the holidays were almost there,
- 0:04but it's like not like anyone was really in the
- 0:06mood to celebrate, right, We were like keeping the pandemic.
- 0:09You know, remember those days. Every time you like went
- 0:11to the grocery store, it felt like kind of scary.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Oh yeah. It was a super stressful time for everyone,
- 0:16and for people working on the front lines, like in healthcare,
- 0:19the pressure was just relentless totally.
- 0:21Speaker 1: And that kind of leads us to what we're talking
- 0:22about today. This case that really shook Nashville and I
- 0:26think became kind of a symbol of that whole time,
- 0:31the murder of Kitlyn Kaufman. Right, So picture this, Your
- 0:35young ic U nurse just finished a crazy shift and
- 0:38you're driving home, exhausted, but like also kind of relieved. Right, Ye,
- 0:43drive if you've done a million times before, But then
- 0:45on this night, on I four forty, everything changes, and
- 0:49you're right.
- 0:50Speaker 2: To mention that routine thing, that feeling of just doing
- 0:53your normal commute, you know, something so many of us
- 0:55can relate to. I think it's part of what made
- 0:59this whole thing so disturbing, you know, like it.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Could happen to anyone exactly. So, Okay, Caitlin, she was
- 1:05this dedicated nurse, had a bright future ahead of her,
- 1:08love by her family and the people she worked with.
- 1:10And then you have DeVante Hill and James Cowen, these
- 1:12two guys who come into the picture that night. Right,
- 1:16We've got the police reports, court documents, even some really
- 1:18powerful testimony to help us understand what happened. Our goal
- 1:22today is to go beyond just the headlines, beyond just
- 1:26like the what, and really try to figure out the
- 1:28why behind this whole thing, because it just seems so senseless, right, Okay,
- 1:33So let's set the scene. Caitlyn's car was found on
- 1:35the shoulder of I four forty engines, still running, her
- 1:39foot on the brake. At first, it looked like a
- 1:41really bad accident, And that's.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Important to remember that initial assumption because it kind of
- 1:45explains how the case played out at first, Like, it
- 1:47wasn't immediately clear that this was a homicide.
- 1:50Speaker 1: So like what clued investigators in that something was off?
- 1:54What made them realize this wasn't just an accident.
- 1:57Speaker 2: It was actually a tip, a call from someone who
- 2:00had some info about what happened, and that tip it
- 2:03led investigators to Devonte Hill and James Cowen. And that's
- 2:06where things take a really sharp turn.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Okay, so this is where things get kind of crazy,
- 2:10And by crazy, I mean like really sad, because from
- 2:14what we can tell, Caitlin like had nothing to do
- 2:17with these guys.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like a total chance encounter, just a
- 2:20terrifying example of wrong place, wrong time. And that's got
- 2:24to be part of why this case hit so hard
- 2:26for people. It felt like it could happen to anyone,
- 2:29right exactly.
- 2:30Speaker 1: So what actually went down on I four forty that night?
- 2:33What does the evidence tell us?
- 2:34Speaker 2: Well, the biggest piece of the puzzle I think comes
- 2:37from Devonte Hill himself. He confessed to firing the shots
- 2:42from the suv Cowen's suv. According to him, Caitlin had
- 2:45cut them off in traffic or something.
- 2:47Speaker 1: WHOA okay, so road rage. But I don't know, there's
- 2:50something about that that just feels off, where they like
- 2:54looking for a fight, to even know Caitlyn was in
- 2:56the car.
- 2:56Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's really not clear. There's nothing to
- 2:58suggest they were planning attack, no sign that they knew
- 3:01who she was. It really might have just been a
- 3:03completely impulsive, horrible act.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Okay, So we have to talk about hill state of
- 3:07mind here. We know from the case files that he
- 3:10was well, he was under the influence that.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Night, right, and that's where things get you know, complicated Legally.
- 3:17He admitted to using marijuana, cocaine, and xanax before the shooting,
- 3:21so that obviously makes you question his judgment, you know,
- 3:25his ability to think clearly about the consequences of what
- 3:28he was doing.
- 3:29Speaker 1: So does that change things legally? If someone is messed up,
- 3:34can they still be held responsible for what they do?
- 3:36Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question, right, and it's tricky. The
- 3:39law says intent doesn't have to be planned out. It's
- 3:42about understanding that your actions have consequences even if you're
- 3:45you know, not thinking straight.
- 3:47Speaker 1: And that's what the jury had to figure out. Which
- 3:49man that must have been so difficult. What were the
- 3:51main arguments during the trial.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Well, the prosecution argued that what Hill did, no matter
- 3:56what he was on, led directly to Caitlin's death. They
- 4:00painted him as reckless, you know, like his actions showed
- 4:03that he didn't care about human life and that it
- 4:05was all fueled by the drugs.
- 4:07Speaker 1: And the defense what was their site.
- 4:09Speaker 2: They focused on Hell, not having a criminal record before this,
- 4:12and his emotional state that night. They weren't saying he
- 4:15didn't fire the gun, but they were trying to make
- 4:17people doubt if it was intentional. Like they said, his
- 4:20mind was totally clouded by all the stuff he'd taken.
- 4:23Speaker 1: And in the end, the jury found him guilty of
- 4:25second degree murder. For those of us who aren't lawyers,
- 4:29what does that actually mean in this case?
- 4:31Speaker 2: So in Tennessee, second degree murder means the killing wasn't
- 4:35planned out beforehand, but it came from something really dangerous
- 4:39that the person knew was dangerous, something that showed they
- 4:41didn't care about human life. Basically, the jury believed Hell
- 4:45didn't leave his house that night planning to kill someone,
- 4:48but what he did was so reckless that it was
- 4:50still second degree murder and he.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Got the maximum sentence for that, twenty five years.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Yeah, which brings us to a really interesting part of
- 4:58this whole thing. Remember James Callen, the guy driving the suv,
- 5:01he was acquitted.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, the guy who actually pulled the trigger
- 5:04gets twenty five years, but the guy driving goes free.
- 5:06How does that even work?
- 5:08Speaker 2: It shows you how tough it is. For the legal
- 5:10system to figure out who's responsible when multiple people are
- 5:15involved in something like this, like where's the line between
- 5:17the driver and the shooter. It's a debate that comes
- 5:20up a lot. In Callin's case, the jury decided there
- 5:23wasn't enough evidence to prove he was in on it
- 5:25with Hell or that he knew he was going to
- 5:28shoot man.
- 5:29Speaker 1: That's that's going to be tough to accept, especially for
- 5:32Caitlin's family. Just goes to show that justice it's not
- 5:36always so simple. God, I can't even imagine, you know,
- 5:39the pain having to go through something like that, and
- 5:41then to have to sit through the whole trial hearing
- 5:44about how it all went down. Just awful.
- 5:47Speaker 2: It's unimaginable really, And you know those victim impact statements
- 5:50they can be so powerful. They really show the human
- 5:53cost of these crimes.
- 5:54Speaker 1: For sure. Any of those statements stand out to you.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Caitlyn's mother, Kathy, what she said, Uh, well, it was
- 6:02really tough to hear. She talked about how Caitlin always
- 6:05wanted to be a nurse, how she dedicated her life
- 6:07to helping people, even during a pandemic, and then for
- 6:10her to be taken like that on her way to
- 6:12work just senseless.
- 6:14Speaker 1: It really is. How are you even supposed to make
- 6:16sense to something like that? And then there's a question
- 6:19of closure. Does a guilty verdict, a sentence, even the maximum,
- 6:23does any of that really bring closure?
- 6:25Speaker 2: That's a big question we ask a lot in these situations.
- 6:28I mean, can anything the legal system does ever really
- 6:31feel like justice when someone's life is taken, or is
- 6:33it more about just acknowledging what happened, how serious it was,
- 6:36and the impact on the people left behind.
- 6:38Speaker 1: And then you have Hill apologizing in court. What do
- 6:41you think was that real remorse or was it like
- 6:45a calculated thing.
- 6:46Speaker 2: It's tough to say, impossible to know really what's going
- 6:50on in someone's head in that moment. I think it's
- 6:52up to each person to decide if those apologies mean anything.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough one. But this whole thing, it
- 6:58wasn't just a Nashville story, right, It seemed like the
- 7:00whole country was paying attention. Why do you think that.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Was I think it was a lot of things. Unfortunately,
- 7:05the pandemic was happening, everyone was on edge, there was
- 7:08all this uncertainty in the air, and then you have
- 7:10this young woman a nurse, someone who was all about
- 7:14helping others becoming a victim of such a random act
- 7:17of violence. It felt like, I don't know, like it
- 7:20represented the anxieties of the time, and.
- 7:23Speaker 1: It makes you think about some pretty heavy stuff, you know,
- 7:25road rage, gun violence, how fragile life really is. Makes
- 7:29you wonder if it could happen to any of us
- 7:31or all just one wrong turn, one bad encounter away
- 7:35from something like that.
- 7:36Speaker 2: It's a scary thought, but it's a good reminder. You know,
- 7:40life is precious and we never know what's going to happen.
- 7:43Maybe it makes us, I don't know, maybe it makes
- 7:45us try to be a little kinder, a little more understanding.
- 7:48We're all in this together, right, Yeah.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot to think about for sure. And for
- 7:53everyone listening, we want to know what you think, what's
- 7:55stuck with you about this case? Did it change how
- 7:58you view these things? These random acts said violence? Let
- 8:01us know we always want to hear from you.