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Viral takeover: A pandemic was declared, and our world changed forever – Sonia Elijah · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Well, many of you have just wanted to move on from COVID-19.
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  And that's what today's conversation is about, to lock in forever what you must know so this will never happen to us again.
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  The deep researched book 311 Viral Takeover, a pandemic was declared, and our world was changed forever, is proof that you need for your family, your friends, and yourself of what really happened behind the scenes in government, in politics, and why we must never let this happen again.
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  Today's conversation is with independent investigative journalist and former BBC researcher Sonia Elijah and her book 311 Viral Takeover on March 11th, 2020, a pandemic was declared, and our world changed forever.
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  A forensic investigation of a once-in-a-century pandemic of what was done in the name of exposing how everything about it was really about control.
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  It really wasn't about public health, it was really about control.
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  Sonia.
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  Welcome to the 10 Penny Files.
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  Thank you so much for being here.
• 2:46
  It's a pleasure to meet with you.
• 2:48
  Oh, thank you so much, Sherry, for having me on your show.
• 2:51
  Well, you know, what inspired you to write 311 viral takeover and to center around that exact date of March 11th, 2020, the day the World Health Organization declared the pandemic worldwide.
• 3:05
  Great question.
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  Um, so what inspired me?
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  So really it's it's based on sort of five years of my investigate investigative reporting.
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  But what sort of in woke me up to the sort of the ultimately what was at play here was in early 2020, um, you know, just walking through a supermarket, seeing families masked, people going around sort of this one-way system taped on, you know, the if you can remember the arrows taped on on the floor, and people's fear, just absolute fear in their eyes.
• 3:43
  And I realized this is not about a virus, this is about control.
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  And you know, what we saw, it's the speed and uniformity of how governments, tech, media all came together.
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  And um, we have, you know, a resulting from that, you know, we've got um, you know, unprecedented lockdowns, school closures, I mean, a whole whole cascade of policies uh came out.
• 4:08
  But the book I sent on um the title, 311 is obviously as you read out the day that WHO declared COVID-19 a global pandemic.
• 4:20
  But I also draw a biological sequel to 9-11.
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  What did we see at 9-11?
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  We saw this disruptive event, uh, a crisis lead to sort of weaponization of fear and then expanded powers.
• 4:37
  So just how we saw state surveillance of citizens post-9-11, uh, the rise of the Patriot Act, post-311, we see citizen compliance with the state and acts like the coronavirus act with sweeping emergency powers uh uh gained by governments.
• 4:59
  So there is a parallel there, and uh I I wanted that to come through.
• 5:06
  Well, it really did, and you describe in your book one of the most comprehensive and meticulously documented accounts of the COVID era, especially from UK and European perspectives.
• 5:17
  How does the evidence you presented really challenge what the mainstream documentation and dogma was at the time about two weeks to flirt and flatten the curve, and you know uh we need to do this for grandma and different mainstream narratives that we heard uh that it was worth it, what it that we're still hearing today.
• 5:38
  How does what you discovered change those those little sound bites?
• 5:43
  Yeah, absolutely.
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  So from early on, and I can take you back to 2019, where we had the pandemic simulation exercises going on.
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  If you remember, we had Crimson Contagion, early 2019, led by Lieutenant Colonel Robert Cadleck, who is a key you know, figure in this whole COVID response.
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  Uh, we have, you know, a group of tourists, American tourists go to China, they contract a novel virus, they bring it back, it spreads.
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  But even more damning, I would say, is event 201.
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  That happened around October 2019.
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  That was led by the World Economic Forum, sponsored by um that it was at the John Hopkins University and uh funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
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  Out of that, Sherry, I think something really it uh the recommendations coming out from that.
• 6:36
  You have, and I just want to quickly read this, and um this is from the actual recommendation from Event 201.
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  It states governments and private sector should assign a greater priority to developing methods to combat myths and disinformation prior to the next pandemic response.
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  Governments will need to partner with traditional and social media companies to research and develop nimble approaches to countering misinformation.
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  Media companies to research and develop nimble approaches to countering misinformation.
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  And finally, for their part, media companies should commit to ensuring that authoritative messages are prioritized and that false messages are suppressed, including through the use of technology.
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  And finally, for their part, media companies should commit to ensuring that authoritative messages are prioritized and that false messages are suppressed, including through the use of technology.
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  There you have the blueprint of censorship.
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  There you have the blueprint of censorship.
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  Just prior, you know, this is 2019.
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  Just prior, you know, this is 2019, and what did we see coming out of 2020?
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  And what did we see coming out of 2020?
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  We see that blue.
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  We see that blueprint put into operation.
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  We have the uh trusted news initiative that I think it was on March 27th, 2020, just maybe two weeks after the pandemic was declared, that uh it needed to expand its uh uh uh encountering misinformation to do with the COVID response.
• 7:50
  So it was already gearing up.
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  So this was already in play, this coordinated narrative.
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  But in answer to your question, you know, I looked at the the Freedom of Information Act released emails.
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  These are the Anthony Fauci emails and private Slack messages amongst these top scientists and gain of research uh gain of function researchers.
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  And um, and and the and many of them went on to pen the influential paper, the uh uh the proximal origin paper uh that was published in Nature Medicines Journal.
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  Um these emails are damning.
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  It showed there was a coordinated uh they they all came together.
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  Now, privately they believed that the lab origin leak was highly plausible, but publicly they completely dismissed it as a conspiracy, a dangerous conspiracy theory.
• 8:48
  So this is just a prime example of you know, my research going through all these emails that they obviously didn't want anyone to see, but thankfully they did get released.
• 8:58
  Um, you see this coordinated narrative um take hold from the very beginning, and people were labeled as conspiracy theorists, people like Dr.
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  J.
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  Battacharya, Dr.
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  Sunitra Gupta, Drs Martin Kuldoff.
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  They went on to found the um the Great Barrington Declaration against lockdowns, and we don't need to lock down.
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  We need to just, you know, it's it's about herd immunity, which is a you know, scientific fact, right?
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  They got, I mean, blacklisted, smeared, uh, they were known as labeled as dangerous.
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  So, yeah, it it it it from the very beginning, there was there was could uh uh uh uh the control of the narrative was was paramount.
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  You know, and I was named one of the disinformation dozen, you know, that got labeled here in the US.
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  Um, we were supposedly uh a responsible for up to 63% of all misinformation across all of the internet.
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  And I remember when I heard that, I was like, darn, only 63%.
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  We better get busy.
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  And little did I know that you know, we were all going to be shut down, censored, all of our social media accounts uh canceled, all of our banking accounts with PayPal and Venmo and all of those things to be uh taken away.
• 10:15
  And just for the audience, you know, we're in the middle of a of a lawsuit with the government right now.
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  We're at the third stage of this, so it's looking quite well that we may get retribution for this.
• 10:24
  And we're doing this lawsuit, not so much for ourselves.
• 10:28
  In fact, it's really not for ourselves at all.
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  It's really for standing on the freedom of speech, the First Amendment rights of Americans that the government and big tech and all those things that you just you just said cannot collude against American citizens for over freedom of speech issues and declare that their freedom of speech is not allowed because they call it misinformation when it really is like who gets the right to define that, you know, and they they assumed that.
• 10:58
  So I just want to put a little short plug here.
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  We have a GoFundMe to raise for our just for our attorney fees.
• 11:04
  It doesn't go to me, it doesn't go to any of the people in the lawsuit, it's sure purely for um legal fees, because as you can imagine, fighting the government and big tech is kind of expensive.
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  So we have a GoFundMe, it's GoFundMe.com forward slash deliberate dozen, deliberate dash dozen if people want to contribute to our um legal fee that we're fighting for Americans and the right that this will never happen again.
• 11:30
  You know, you mentioned uh that your research was based on more than thousands of foyer requests.
• 11:36
  Did you file them all yourself or how did you how did you do that?
• 11:40
  No, um, so um some were filed, but obviously by myself, but I looked at all the, of course, the Fauci emails encompassed that.
• 11:47
  And I mean, that's thousands of emails and documents related to that release, but the Pfizer documents also I looked at, um, and I started looking at that from late 2021.
• 11:59
  Um, and also the um uh the uh periodic safety update reports submitted by BioNTech and Pfizer to the European Medicine Agency.
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  Um, that those were disclosed later, um, released later because of that.
• 12:17
  Um I I and I've obviously myself I did write to the MHRA as well.
• 12:22
  I um my book just does discuss the DNA contamination scandal.
• 12:26
  Um I I was one of the first journalists to uncover Pfizer's pregnancy and lactation review.
• 12:33
  This was submitted, this is part of that bundle that was disclosed uh because of a court order.
• 12:39
  Remember, the FDA wanted the public to wait till 2096 to release all the files, all the documents that they relied on to green light um Pfizer's COVID shot.
• 12:50
  So damning, damning data in that.
• 12:53
  Damning, I mean, I came across a lot of pediatric deaths uh following the shot.
• 12:58
  Um, but with the pregnancy and lactation review, harms to lactating infants through uh, you know, through via the, you know, coming through the breast milk.
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  Remember the lies that we were told with the COVID shot, it was just gonna stay in your arm.
• 13:12
  No, the truth is it went all over your body.
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  We had those bio distribution report actually quite early on.
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  Um, I think the Canadian doctor, Dr.
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  Brian Bridal released uh, you know, managed to get that and that would and disseminate the information there.
• 13:28
  But because of the lip and nanoparticles, they travel all over the body.
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  They go to the ovaries, the spleen, the testes, the brain.
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  Um, but the pediatric pediatric death cases that I wrote on, and this was actually for children's health defense Europe.
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  Um, my reporting that was just extremely, I mean, it was just catastrophic.
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  It was just so difficult to actually write on that.
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  Um, a lot of deaths because of myocarditis, cardiac issues, pulmonary embolisms.
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  These are like young children.
• 14:01
  You know, your book of 311 viral takeover is not just a post mortem of it's not just a rehashing of facts.
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  You know, your book of 311 viral takeover is not just a post mortem of, it's not just a rehashing of facts.
• 14:09
  It's actually an indictment because of all of the actual emails that are in print that you were able to uncover all of the Pfizer document details that you talk about in your book.
• 14:09
  It's actually an indictment because of all of the actual emails that are in print that you were able to uncover all of the Pfizer document details that you talk about in your book.
• 14:21
  Um, you know, the one of the first tranches of Pfizer documents that came out was a 38 page paper that the last eight pages were single space.
• 14:21
  Um, you know, the one of the first tranches of Pfizer documents that came out was a 38 page paper that the last eight pages were single space, single lined all across more than 1200 conditions and side effects that they knew before they released the shot.
• 14:37
  You know, this is an indictment that is still ongoing.
• 14:41
  When is it ever going to reach?
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  It's it's already reaching the court of public opinion.
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  And most people are already like, you know, they're they're not even producing COVID shots anymore because nobody wants them.
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  And even a couple of years ago, Moderna said we don't have a production problem.
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  We have a purchasing problem.
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  Nobody in anywhere in the world wants them.
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  So we already have passed the court of public opinion in a lot of ways.
• 15:06
  Where do we break the dam to get this into the justice system?
• 15:12
  Yeah, that's a really good question.
• 15:15
  Um, yeah.
• 15:17
  I mean, I think that the on the on the on the the good news is I think there is a mass awakening.
• 15:23
  I think more people are waking up.
• 15:26
  Um, and obviously the persistent work of independent researchers, courageous doctors like yourself, you know, more and more is coming out, independent journalists writing about it.
• 15:37
  So, and I think the harms are so unprecedented.
• 15:41
  You know, it's a cascade of harms.
• 15:42
  We've got excess, excess deaths in working age populations, right?
• 15:48
  Never been seen before.
• 15:50
  And also my book, I write on the systematic uh censorship of the science.
• 15:56
  So all these scientific uh articles, uh, meta-analysis, peer-reviewed studies that were literally rejected outright from journals or withdrawn, retracted, or you know, it's the censorship was across the board, um, not just for members of the public writing on on social media.
• 16:16
  Um, you know, you have the vaccine injured, their Facebook accounts being brought down.
• 16:20
  You have the BBC involved in that in flagging the sort of carrot emojis that these groups used to circumvent the senses.
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  Um, so there is just so much.
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  The crimes are just it's it's just ever growing.
• 16:36
  And we're more, we're finding more and more out as well.
• 16:41
  Um, but I I mean, I I'm I'm hopeful, hopefully, you know, that there will be an accountability, but I rely on people waking up.
• 16:49
  I rely on knowledge and truth getting out there, and that is the antidote to all of this.
• 16:55
  You know, your book does a lot, takes a lot of a deep dive and a lot, puts a lot of emphasis on in the beginning of the book, the difference between uh lab created versus lab leaked, the the theories between those.
• 17:07
  And like you already stated, you know, in their private correspondence, they think, yeah, it's probably created in a lab.
• 17:14
  And but publicly it they fabricated the data.
• 17:17
  They fabricated the science that said, no, it can only be um created from you know, monkeys in a in a lab in a in a market somewhere.
• 17:26
  Why is this date debate so important?
• 17:31
  Um, because it it just revealed it, it's sort of like my book, the first two chapters does deal with the origins of the virus.
• 17:40
  And I thought it was important to start there, because I I a tackled the book in sort of chronological order.
• 17:46
  The as are in a there's an appendix also in the front of the book, which is uh detailed timeline.
• 17:52
  And that took me months to compile because I wanted the reader to have context to it.
• 17:58
  Um, because I believe there's dates don't lie.
• 18:01
  You you it reveals a lot when you go, and you can see the anomalies take, you know.
• 18:06
  So for example, the genomic virus was uploaded January 10th, 2020 uh to virological.org.
• 18:14
  You have three days later, the which we haven't discussed yet, the PCR test, the PCR protocol being uh uh formally adopted by the approved by the World Health Organization.
• 18:26
  This is like months before a pandemic was declared, right?
• 18:32
  January 13th, again, three days later, we have Moderna and NIH is the vaccine research center affiliated with the NIH, deciding on the uh uh genomic sequence for spike max for the vaccine.
• 18:48
  Um, I mean, it's just there's so many, so many, you know, anomalies there.
• 18:53
  Um, but um in answer to your question to do with this sort of, you know, why was it they wanted to control the narrative from the beginning?
• 19:02
  You have the Indian paper coming out in February 2020, uh Pradham et al.
• 19:09
  study that was saying, look, there's four HIV-like inserts in this in the spike protein in this in in this in this novel virus.
• 19:19
  So it was obvious from the get-go that this had been tinkered with.
• 19:23
  It came out of gain of research, a gain of function research.
• 19:27
  Um, and um that paper was withdrawn, but had to be three days later.
• 19:33
  It was so it was, you know, you know, and you have the emails talking.
• 19:36
  You have Fauci and that whole group of scientists, these influential scientists saying, you know, this is an outlandish paper, or what were you going to do with these these conspiracies of it coming from a lab?
• 19:49
  So it it was it was very, very apparent.
• 19:52
  And you have Francis Collins uh saying, you know, what are we going to do?
• 19:57
  We thought, you know, this um the proximal proximal origin paper should be settling this, but we've got these conspiracy theories still coming.
• 20:07
  What are we gonna do?
• 20:08
  And he's emailing Fauci about this.
• 20:11
  So there's really damning evidence that they were just protecting, protecting themselves, right?
• 20:17
  Major conflicts of interest.
• 20:19
  26 out of the 27 scientists that wrote the um the joint statement that was published in the Lancet in early 2020.
• 20:28
  We know that was coordinated by Peter Dazak, who was leading Eco Health Alliance at the time, and Sir Jeremy Ferrar, who's leading the Welcome Trust.
• 20:38
  Um, 26 out of the 27 had deep ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and its funders.
• 20:47
  Yeah, it's um there the the um the the depth of the deception is like over the top.
• 20:55
  You know, you mentioned in passing just about the PCR testing, and we we found out, you know, about the cycle, the cycle uh cycling speed and um the cycle rate.
• 21:00
  You know, about the cycle, the cycle uh cycling speed and um the cycle rate.
• 21:05
  Um, because there was a a lab here in America, just outside of Atlanta, that 100% of the samples that were sent were tested positive.
• 21:05
  Um, because there was a a lab here in America, just outside of Atlanta, that 100% of the samples that were sent were tested positive.
• 21:16
  And people that are in science and research said, wait a minute, that's statistically impossible.
• 21:16
  And people that are in science and research said, wait a minute, that's statistically impossible.
• 21:21
  You can't have uh, you know, a hundred thousand sample set and have a hundred percent test positive.
• 21:21
  You can't have uh, you know, a hundred thousand samples set and have a hundred percent test positive.
• 21:27
  What is causing that?
• 21:27
  What is causing that?
• 21:28
  Well, first of all, it's because.
• 21:28
  Well, first of all, it's because excuse me, PCR testing was never meant to be used clinically, and second of all, because of the cycle threshold that they had set, you know, over 30, which means everything would have been tested positive.
• 21:41
  Now, the people that approved this, I mean, they're smart people, and they've been doing research in laboratory studies and probably using PCR testing in the lab for various things for many, many years.
• 21:54
  Why did they they uh how why did they allow these protocols to become so misused?
• 22:01
  Um that's a really good question.
• 22:03
  And I do want to talk about this.
• 22:04
  Uh, this is the uh the PCR protocol, which it which is uh the German virologist, uh Christian Professor Christian Drosden.
• 22:13
  So he um essentially, so we obviously, and you you you noted Dr.
• 22:17
  Carrie Mullis, who actually is the inventor of the PCR technique, said himself in an interview in the 90s, it doesn't tell you that you're sick.
• 22:26
  It should never be used to diagnose um an infectious disease.
• 22:31
  But again, this was the test used January 13th, three days later, Christian Drosden's PCR protocol is adopted by the World Health Organization.
• 22:40
  But the the paper surrounding that, which is the um Corman Drosden paper, lots of scandals associated with that.
• 22:48
  And my book, there's a chapter just dedicated to all the scandals.
• 22:52
  Um, it was published in Euro Surveillance.
• 22:54
  And who sits as the editor of that journal?
• 22:57
  It's Christian Drosden himself, who are the co-authors of that paper.
• 23:02
  You've got um many uh these key authors who are tied to the biotech company in Germany called TIB Mobile.
• 23:11
  That company was the first out the gate to release uh to produce PCR tests kits that were sent out to Hong Kong.
• 23:20
  Guess what date?
• 23:21
  January 10th.
• 23:22
  January 10th is the same day the genomic sequence was uploaded.
• 23:26
  All of a sudden, we've got kids coming out that same day.
• 23:30
  Um, so and there we know that this protocol, the PCR test is uh there's 10, I mean it's fundamentally flawed.
• 23:38
  There was a consortium of I think 22 international scientists that condemned the paper, saying it should be retracted, that the uh it was peer reviewed miraculously in less than 24 hours, Sherry as well.
• 23:53
  I mean, there's so many scandals.
• 23:56
  But there are 10 scientific these this consortium of international independent scientists came up with 10 major flaws to do with this test.
• 24:06
  And as you said, the cycle threshold, anything above 35, high, it increases dramatically the risk of a false positive.
• 24:15
  And actually, interestingly, just last year, there was a German peer-reviewed study, I think it was July 2025.
• 24:22
  They analyzed the um testing data between I think 2020 and 2021.
• 24:29
  What did they find?
• 24:30
  86% of that data when they reanalyzed it, was false positives.
• 24:37
  This was the test that was used to justify to prolong lockdowns, right?
• 24:42
  We were always locked down, you know, it it dramatically inflated case numbers.
• 24:48
  And what did we see every day on the TV, the tallies, the case numbers, all of that going on?
• 24:54
  Um, and um, and then just actually, I would like to talk a little bit about report nine.
• 25:00
  Report nine is Imperial Colleges London's um paper uh led by Professor Neil Ferguson, right?
• 25:10
  Now, this university is has strong fund, major funding from the Gates Foundation.
• 25:15
  Uh Neil Ferguson is associated with Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance.
• 25:20
  Um his paper, report nine, uh said that if countries don't lock down, there will be catastrophic deaths.
• 25:29
  England will see over a half million deaths within the first few months.
• 25:33
  The US will see 2.2 million deaths, you know, if they if they don't lock down by that summer.
• 25:39
  And what did we see?
• 25:40
  We didn't that never came about, but that paper, which was also fundamentally flawed, uh, because it relied on the exponential growth of the virus, which was flawed.
• 25:52
  It relied on the case fatality ratio in Wuhan, not in not anywhere else.
• 25:58
  And uh it ignored critical evidence from the Diamond uh Princess Cruise ship.
• 26:04
  Do you remember that cruise ship?
• 26:06
  It showed that the infection fatality rate was a lot lower.
• 26:09
  And of course, we had you know, um, Ianidas, Professor Inidus say it's about 0.1% uh for those under 70, which is comparable to a severe flu season.
• 26:22
  So all of this, all of these flawed protocols, flawed papers justified catastrophic, I mean, these harms, lockdowns.
• 26:31
  I mean, we will never know the harms of lockdowns.
• 26:35
  I think it's it's still it's still playing out.
• 26:37
  It is still unfolding.
• 26:38
  We have a whole generation of children who lost out on schooling, their mental health.
• 26:44
  Remember what happened in care homes, Sherry, how they treated the elderly.
• 26:48
  A lot of the excess deaths we saw was because of these just in-case protocols.
• 26:53
  They were quietly dispatched by Medazolam and morphine, right?
• 26:58
  I mean, it was just horrific, horrific crimes.
• 27:02
  So, I mean, this book, I just want people to read it because it is a live indictment, and we're still living it.
• 27:09
  We're still living through it, all the harms.
• 27:12
  Yeah, you're absolutely right.
• 27:14
  I mean, when I wrote my book, Zero Accountability in a Failed System when I wrote the the section on the COVID, you know, I and I did over 600 interviews in 18 months.
• 27:26
  And I said, um, you know, about five years out from when the people get their last shot, they're gonna see a big wave of deaths, which is where we are now, and we're still seeing the deaths climb, even though the infection process is gone.
• 27:40
  And about 10 years out, we're gonna start seeing massive autoimmune disease that none of the current medications uh are useful for.
• 27:48
  And I learned that from two immunologists early on.
• 27:51
  So we're continue to see this for years to come.
• 27:55
  So I think with that, this is a good place for us to take a short break.
• 27:59
  Hold that thought right there for just a second, Sonia.
• 28:00
  Right there for just a second, Sonia.
• 28:01
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  Today's conversation is with Sonia Elijah about her book 311 Viral Takeover.
• 35:17
  Today's conversation is with Sonia Elijah about her book 311 Viral Takeover, a March 11th, 2020, a pandemic was declared and our world changed forever.
• 35:23
  On March 11th, 2020, a pandemic was declared and our world changed forever.
• 35:28
  A forensic investigation.
• 35:28
  A forensic investigation of a once-in-a-century pandemic and what it has done in the name of control.
• 35:36
  Sonia, thank you so much for being with us here today.
• 35:39
  And I'm so appreciative for all the work you've done.
• 35:42
  Your book is an incredible indictment.
• 35:44
  I want to I want to really talk for just a minute about a section in your book that was of great interest to me of what you found in uh and I read closely was the section on the myth of asymptomatic spread and how we decided that that was a problem when it was totally made up, you know, and how they said, yeah, we think that maybe people could spread it and they're not have any signs of a symptoms.
• 36:08
  And the think about the damage to humans and human psyches of cramming an eight-inch Q-tip up their nose for no reason on a weekly weekly basis if they decided not to get the shot, all the things we did to kids, all of the trauma and I believe in other infectious processes that we caused, and a totally made up and faked um statement.
• 36:31
  Um talk about that a little bit.
• 36:34
  I think this is just of all of the horrible pure evil stuff inside of COVID.
• 36:38
  I think this uh continual PCR testing for asymptomatic spreaders and declaring disease when there wasn't any, is one of the most pure evil parts of COVID.
• 36:50
  Take us through that journey a little bit.
• 36:52
  Yeah.
• 36:53
  Um, and obviously I encourage people to read the book because some of these details, it might not be so fresh in my mind, but I'll do my best to remember on that particular topic.
• 37:03
  But yes, it there was a paper published, and it was based on the asymptomat asymptomatic spread.
• 37:09
  So people spreading it showing no symptoms.
• 37:12
  But what they found is, and we have obviously there's also emails between I think Anthony Fauci, there's Christian Drosden uh weighing in, and um the the actual paper is flawed.
• 37:25
  They actually say, Oh, this person had no symptoms.
• 37:28
  I think it was a tourist then going back to Germany, if I remember, but that person actually did have symptoms if they bothered to it properly interview and and do a follow-up, because that was revealed later.
• 37:41
  So they got caught out in that in that lie of of them, you know, of eight and and we we know the whole testing protocol, not only with the PCR, the rapid antigen tests.
• 37:53
  And there is a big chapter on my book, all on the scandals um uh uh involved with these rapid, these lateral flow tests.
• 38:02
  Um, where uh they, you know, it it I it's the biggest scam.
• 38:07
  It was it cost the UK government, I think four billion pounds on these rapid antigen tests.
• 38:14
  And it came out oh, these were Chinese made tests.
• 38:17
  The FDA actually that summer said, oh, these tests are flawed, people should throw them in the trash.
• 38:24
  But our government just double down and continue to, you know, shell out uh public funds uh for these tests.
• 38:31
  But the scandal also with Innova Medical Group, this was a California startup founded again.
• 38:39
  The date comes into play here, March 2020.
• 38:42
  This is when this company becomes gets found, you know, it's founded.
• 38:46
  And the whole thing is on these rapid antigen chests, right, being rolled out.
• 38:50
  Um, and they they were they would they never worked.
• 38:55
  They were they were unvalidated.
• 38:56
  They they were they're fundamentally flawed.
• 38:59
  And just like the PCR, these were pushed onto the public.
• 39:05
  You had to take that test, you had to do the PCO, whether to go to school, to go to work, all of these things.
• 39:11
  They were used to sort of lock people down, and it was many people, these key people made billions, absolutely billions.
• 39:21
  It was uh part of this VIP lane scandal, which we had in the UK as well.
• 39:27
  So, but like you said, so much on flawed science, right?
• 39:33
  I mean, don't rip but remember what they were doing up with natural immunity, the way they suppressed that.
• 39:39
  You know, you were considered dangerous and fringe if you were talking about natural immunity.
• 39:44
  Dr.
• 39:44
  Martin Kuldorf was dismissed from Harvard University because he was talking about that.
• 39:49
  His posts on social media were suppressed and flagged.
• 39:54
  Um, and you mentioned obviously the disinformation dozen report, which I'm glad you do, and that you were on it.
• 40:00
  Um also say say a G was on it, and I interview him in my book, say a G and what was done, you know, with his you know, Green Medo uh website.
• 40:09
  But like you said, that came out from the CCDH, the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which is an NGO.
• 40:18
  And these NGOs were also crucial in in their role in this whole risk COVID response and that the mass censorship that people uh uh were were had to experience.
• 40:31
  Um the CCDH, which is a UK and US-based NGO, they were the ideological engine for widespread censorship for promoting that.
• 40:45
  And the C C D H obviously we have the the files that came out, you know, you have the kill musk's Twitter, right?
• 40:53
  Um, you have the disinformation dozen report coming out of that, where you have Biden saying these people spreading missing, they're deadly, they're killing people, right?
• 41:03
  Um right.
• 41:09
  I want to read just one sentence, a couple of that I that's kind of sum up this asymptomatic spread that's comes out of your book.
• 41:16
  Um Dr.
• 41:17
  Thomas Binder, MD is one of 22 authors of an external peer-reviewed research paper tweeted.
• 41:24
  It is madness to test a hypersensitive, unspecific R uh PCR test only, without consideration of psycho threshold and clinical findings.
• 41:35
  And it is the coronation of insanity to test every un every asymptomatic person in this way.
• 41:43
  And I think that the take-home message for this to talk about this today with the uh with the for the listener is that they're gonna try to do this again.
• 41:52
  When they release the next um the next bug that's gonna be the next pandemic, whether it's something to do with ticks and Lyme disease, whether it's meningitis, whether it's another uh pandemic virus, they're gonna try to use these same tools again.
• 42:00
  Whether it's another uh pandemic virus, they're going to try to use these same tools again.
• 42:06
  So that's why this conversation is so important to keep it in front of your mind and not just think that COVID is something you look at in your rear view mirror over your shoulder.
• 42:06
  So that's why this conversation is so important to keep it in front of your mind and not just think that COVID is something you look at in your rear view mirror over your shoulder, because these are market tests.
• 42:16
  Because these are market tests.
• 42:18
  They put this forward.
• 42:18
  They put this forward.
• 42:19
  I my position is that every pandemic is a market test.
• 42:19
  I my position is that every pandemic is a market test.
• 42:22
  They push a push and push until they get blowback and then it disappears.
• 42:22
  They push a push and push until they get blowback and then it disappears.
• 42:27
  And then they analyze the data and say what worked, what didn't.
• 42:27
  And then they analyze the data and say what worked, what didn't work, um, what can we do more of, what should we stop?
• 42:33
  And all of those things are really important.
• 42:35
  And it's going to happen again, which is why we have these continual discussions, which brings up to the weaponization of fear, which turned out to be the most important control factor for this.
• 42:47
  And you say in your book, 311 viral takeover, the you the UK government spent hundreds of millions of pounds, more than 184 million pounds, which is about 250,000 in 2020 alone, funding messages of fear.
• 43:03
  What do you think they learned from this?
• 43:05
  And what should we learn from this so that we don't succumb to this again?
• 43:10
  Yeah, great question.
• 43:12
  So, yes, the weaponization of fear, which was a critical tool.
• 43:16
  It was a psychological operation, uh, Sherry, uh, a military strategy, essentially, against the public, right?
• 43:24
  So you have um hundreds of millions being spent on propaganda, right?
• 43:29
  Weaponizing fear.
• 43:30
  If you go out, grandma will die.
• 43:32
  Uh, we've got to stay home, protect the NHS, um, all of that.
• 43:38
  But people were so so afraid they died in their homes, not because of COVID, but because of like undiagnosed cancers, dying of heart attacks, uh, all of the other illnesses, um, and not having access to proper medical health care, right?
• 43:54
  Um, so it was egregious what they did because they used fear to get people to comply.
• 44:02
  This has been one mass compliance test, right?
• 44:05
  COVID through post-311, what we saw.
• 44:08
  It was how far they could push the public.
• 44:10
  How can you, what can we, you know, you know, you've got the vaccine passports as well, which was the proof of concept for for this kind of uh digital IDs, which we're now seeing pushed now.
• 44:22
  But going back to fear, it was a critical tool.
• 44:25
  It arrested people's critical thinking school uh skills.
• 44:29
  That's why it was used because if you've got someone so afraid, they're not gonna do research, they're not gonna dig a bit deeper and think actually, do I really need to be afraid?
• 44:39
  Um, no, they're just gonna be petrified and comply.
• 44:44
  And that's what they did.
• 44:46
  They complied, many people.
• 44:48
  Um, so uh we have in the book talks about government government meetings taking place.
• 44:54
  This is in March 2020.
• 44:56
  You have behavioral scientist meetings.
• 44:59
  This comes under Sage, which is the scientific advisory group for emergencies, which we have in the UK.
• 45:07
  And you have these confidential meetings, and you know, I've got screenshots of these papers being, you know, that were disclosed, but it was yet how to use media to increase the sense of personal threat.
• 45:20
  You know, so media were complicit in all of this.
• 45:24
  You have also uh redacted documents and emails talking about how how the government messaging can be written into soaps into these daytime TV shows, right?
• 45:35
  Stay at home or get the vaccine, all of this.
• 45:39
  Um, so propaganda was it's rampant, right?
• 45:43
  And it is a psychological operation.
• 45:46
  It it's it's uh, and I mean, my book even talks about NATO's involvement in the uh a count countering vaccine disinformation.
• 45:55
  This is my own freedom of information at request sent to the UK government, and they confirmed NATO's involvement.
• 46:03
  So this is it's it's just it goes to the highest level, right, of coordination.
• 46:09
  Absolutely.
• 46:10
  And your book um is so impeccably documented.
• 46:15
  I mean, your skills as an investigative reporter and ex investigative writer just absolutely glow and shine through you everything that you've written.
• 46:24
  Um, and it's an easy read, meaning that it's not so technical that people can't dig through it, but you've made it simple for people.
• 46:32
  Your book covers such a huge amount of detail and analysis.
• 46:35
  Was there one or two things that stood out as the most shocking pieces of evidence that you uncovered while you were doing your investigation?
• 46:44
  Yeah, um, that's a really great question.
• 46:47
  Uh so my mind drifts immediately to the damning FDA slide, this presentation slide in um this was a meeting in October 2020, a Verbat meeting, and this slide was on for just literally a split second.
• 47:03
  That screenshot of that slide is in the book, and it talks about the whole host of serious adverse events affiliated with shock.
• 47:11
  This is before, this is before it was even rolled out, months before.
• 47:16
  So, you know, that is just really damning.
• 47:18
  But also it's the um the regular the regulatory failures that I really pushed.
• 47:25
  So there's a chapter called the blind watchdogs, talks about the failures of the MHRA, uh, the FDA.
• 47:31
  Um, you have essentially the for the Pfizer's product, COVID shot, you have an untested product being rolled out on the public because you have two processes to do with this shot, process one and process two.
• 47:48
  Process one was used in the clinical trials, right?
• 47:52
  Um, which kind of was a more cleaner, in a sense, uh, you didn't they use PCR template.
• 47:58
  Process two, they used the um plasmid DNA, E.
• 48:02
  coli DNA, um, as a template.
• 48:06
  So, what did you get out of that?
• 48:08
  You've got contamination on massive scale.
• 48:10
  The DNA contamination scandal stems from that process too.
• 48:15
  And process two was never tested in a clinical trial.
• 48:19
  So if you think about it, the whole population worldwide were lab rats, were used as lab rats.
• 48:27
  Um, and also I wanted to talk a little bit about these novel products.
• 48:31
  So remember, pre-311, you have Moderna basically praying for a Hail Mary, hoping how can we get this MRNA platform out there, right?
• 48:42
  We know DARPA with their key grants, hundreds of millions given in around 2010 period.
• 48:49
  Um, but not a single MRNA product, also with bioentek.
• 48:55
  They never they never were able to release it because the safety, the trials always failed.
• 49:00
  It never passed phase one because the animals died because of the toxicity issues around this platform.
• 49:00
  It never passed phase one because the animals died because of the toxicity issues around this platform.
• 49:07
  And those safety uh issues were never resolved, Sherry, never resolved.
• 49:07
  And those safety uh issues were never resolved, Sherry, never resolved.
• 49:13
  They failed to bring a single product to market.
• 49:13
  They failed to bring a single product to market.
• 49:16
  What happens?
• 49:16
  What happens?
• 49:17
  A disruptive event.
• 49:17
  A disruptive event, you know, 311, the CAM pandemic, and all of a sudden, this platform is greenlit, it's fast tracked, it's pushed through.
• 49:19
  You know, 311, the CAM pandemic, and all of a sudden, this platform is greenlit, it's fast tracked, it's pushed through.
• 49:28
  It it there were no genotoxics.
• 49:28
  It there were no geno toxicity studies, were never done, no carcinogenicity studies were ever done.
• 49:35
  And I reported on this years before, I think in Vinant late 2021 from digging through the Pfizer papers.
• 49:42
  It clearly states that.
• 49:43
  And why didn't they do it?
• 49:45
  Because they didn't need to do it, because it's a vaccine, right?
• 49:48
  Um, and even though novel products, novel compounds, particularly with the lipid nanoparticles were used that were never before used in a medicinal product, let alone inject it, let it own given to pregnant women, children.
• 50:04
  Babies, babies.
• 50:07
  So many crimes.
• 50:09
  You know, between your book and the Pfizer papers, you know, Naomi Wolf's book.
• 50:15
  I mean, there is just so much indictment here.
• 50:17
  And I documented it a lot in my book, you know, Zero Accountability.
• 50:21
  And it just seems as though it's almost like you could see Jesus walk on water right in front of you, and it would all be denied and be like no big deal, because it's but there's so much evidence and proof.
• 50:34
  Um, it that we've we have to keep talking about this, and that's why I was excited to have you on the show this morning for this for a conversation about this.
• 50:43
  In the last few minutes that we have together here, uh, could you highlight one or two key lessons you want that your your the people who read your book and who listen to this conversation and maybe other interviews that you do.
• 50:56
  What less would you like people to walk away with of what happened and why it's so important to not just want to walk away from it and pretend it was a bad part of our history and we don't want to talk about it anymore.
• 51:08
  Why do we need to keep this conversation going?
• 51:10
  And what lessons would you like people to learn?
• 51:13
  Yeah.
• 51:14
  Um, great question.
• 51:15
  And obviously, going back to what you've said before, because they're going to do it again.
• 51:19
  And this is why.
• 51:21
  This is why it's critical to be edified to sort of, you know, get the knowledge that you need going forward.
• 51:28
  Because just a few weeks ago, the UK government pledged one billion pounds of taxpayers' money to go to pandemic uh preparedness, right?
• 51:38
  For more sweeping sweeping emergency powers.
• 51:41
  We've got the World Health Organization and the Pandemic Treaty, we haven't talked about, but that's also in the book.
• 51:47
  And you know, how it's it's you know, it's what they will declare, you know, what they deem as a pandemic and announce it and uh eroding country's sovereignty as well.
• 51:58
  Um, so um, but the key takeaway is really not to be afraid, right?
• 52:04
  Because when you have the knowledge, when you have the truth, you don't need to be afraid.
• 52:09
  It it uh it gives you that it's sort of confidence of like, you know what?
• 52:14
  If I don't need to lock down, I don't need to stay, I don't need to be petrified by this.
• 52:19
  I can carry on with my day with my life, and also to not believe what the legacy media tells you, right?
• 52:26
  Because we know in Lock Step, the BBC, the New York Times, this is all via the trusted news initiative.
• 52:33
  It was all very coordinated, all their stories.
• 52:36
  For example, we haven't spoken yet about the suppression of early COVID treatment.
• 52:41
  We know how the media treated ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and that a lot of these studies proving all these are dangerous were faked date, were faked studies like the uh Lancet study.
• 52:54
  This is to do with the surgisphere scandal, uh, and that study that showed all people were dying from heart attacks because of hydro hydroxychloroquine.
• 53:03
  That wasn't true.
• 53:03
  They even had to retract that study.
• 53:05
  But what did we see?
• 53:07
  BBC play out the same day.
• 53:09
  Oh, Trump's drug kills people, you know, like New York Times jumping on that bandwagon.
• 53:14
  It was all very coordinated, the suppression of COVID early COVID treatment.
• 53:19
  So it's to arm people with knowledge.
• 53:22
  Sorry to go on a little bit and uh, but it really is to, you know, knowledge and truth, I believe is the antidote to this, and um, and and that's what I want people to have.
• 53:33
  Well, and by picking up your book and reading it and reading through it, and I mean, even people could even just read down the table of contents and go to the section that they have of most interest.
• 53:45
  I mean, like we already talked about one of the sections in your book that I found the most interesting because I wanted more personal information about it, was about the test of the asymptomatic spreaders.
• 53:56
  And so I just went down to that part.
• 53:58
  I read the through the whole book, but that part I really concentrated on.
• 54:01
  So that's another really good thing about your book is it's not like it's a novel that you have to start with, you know, the first sentence and read it right straight through.
• 54:10
  You can go to the various portions and understand it more.
• 54:14
  Yes, you want to read the whole thing, but you can focus on the areas of uh that are of most interest, which brings it to court cases of how they can be used in the in the in the court of law.
• 54:24
  Well, Sonia, you know, you and I have so much in common about the things you've written about and the things I've written about.
• 54:29
  We could have talked on for another couple of hours here today, but unfortunately, our time is coming short.
• 54:34
  And I want to mention one more time.
• 54:36
  We've been speaking with Sonia Elijah about her book, 311 viral takeover on March 11th, 2020.
• 54:43
  A pandemic was declared and our world changed forever.
• 54:46
  And it did, and we can't stop talking about this.
• 54:49
  We can't put it in the rearview mirror, because as she and I have both said, they're gonna do this again.
• 54:54
  They're just gearing up, and they're gonna wait just a long enough period of time to where people's um defenses go down, so they can ramp up the fear schedule again.
• 55:04
  And they do it periodically with all this stuff that's come out about meningitis in the UK and about the ticks sort of things and a Rocky Mountain Spotty Fever.
• 55:12
  And it's like whenever there is a medical issue, it gets eyeballs and clicks because we've been conditioned about the fear, and it's not about health, it's not about public health, it's about control.
• 55:26
  So thank you so much, Sonia.
• 55:28
  Thank you for being here with me today and talking about this because it's super, super critical and important.
• 55:33
  And your book is so well documented.
• 55:35
  It's a type of book that everybody should buy and have on their bookshelf for future reference, not only about COVID, but about when the next round comes, you can pull it off and say, Oh, been there, done that.
• 55:47
  You know, and I've said it many times over the years, you know.
• 55:51
  Uh fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, don't let it happen.
• 55:55
  It ain't gonna happen.
• 55:57
  And with your book, three uh 311 viral takeover on everybody's shelf, it will make a huge difference.
• 56:00
  Viral takeover on everybody's shelf, it will make a huge difference.
• 56:03
  So, with that, I want to thank you so much for being here.
• 56:03
  So, with that, I want to thank you so much for being here.
• 56:06
  I want to thank the listeners for being here with us today.
• 56:06
  I want to thank the listeners for being here with us today.
• 56:08
  And um, go and get the book.
• 56:08
  And um, go and get the book.
• 56:09
  You could get it at bookstore.dr10penny.com, where we put all of the books from all of our guests there.
• 56:09
  You could get it at bookstore.dr10penny.com, where we put all of the books from all of our guests there.
• 56:15
  So it makes it really, really easy for you to find.
• 56:15
  So it makes it really, really easy for you to find.
• 56:17
  Bookstore.dr10penny.com.
• 56:17
  Bookstore.dr10pny.com.
• 56:20
  And with that, I'm gonna close out with one of my favorite verses from the Bible.
• 56:20
  And with that, I'm going to close out with one of my favorite verses from the Bible.
• 56:23
  I close all of my podcasts with, whether it's live or pre recorded, which is Romans 12 12.
• 56:23
  I close all of my podcasts with, whether it's live or prerecorded, which is Romans 12 12, rejoice in.
• 56:29
  Rejoice in hope, be patient in trouble, and be persistent in prayer.
• 56:33
  So remember to lean into God.
• 56:34
  He will never let you down.
• 56:36
  We will see you again here tomorrow at 3 p.m.
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  Eastern, Monday through Friday on AmericaOut Loud.news and iHeartRadio.
• 56:42
  Have a great rest of your day, everybody.
• 56:44
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• 56:49
  Have a great day, everybody.
• 56:50
  Goodbye and God bless you.