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- 0:24Speaker 1: Good being. You're ready. Welcome to the other dishes of sports.
- 0:26Speaker 1: The team my name was Scott Morgan on Motor City
- 0:28Speaker 1: mad Mouth. I'd you have what do the night. We're
- 0:30Speaker 1: gonna more people coming in later on. But mean, while
- 0:32Speaker 1: we're starting off with Candy, I'd ended back Candy too.
- 0:37Speaker 1: We had our cats in the house. Got to be
- 0:39Speaker 1: back and have you a great job that first show
- 0:42Speaker 1: Cats again, better and better by the show. I did
- 0:44Speaker 1: great on football yesterday, and I knew we'd do well
- 0:47Speaker 1: with Clarky, I really do. And of course we got
- 0:50Speaker 1: Cliff Neil in the house. Steady, all right, CLIs, we're
- 0:53Speaker 1: gonna get your started with your favorite sport, hockey, and
- 0:55Speaker 1: we're gonna Eric. You're free to come in on this
- 0:58Speaker 1: one as well. And that's being Vegas gold Knights point
- 1:02Speaker 1: out a seven day wading streak in the playoffs.
- 1:05Speaker 2: What happened?
- 1:07Speaker 3: That went awesome? They're a good hockey team, but they
- 1:10Speaker 3: could well hide together. They hit them. I mean, it
- 1:13Speaker 3: was a combination of a lot of things at the
- 1:15Speaker 3: very head, and it's even more impressive that they hired Twitterrella.
- 1:19Speaker 3: John Twitterrella at the very end was now not the coach.
- 1:22Speaker 3: He just got brought in basically into the season and
- 1:24Speaker 3: for the playoffs. Now he's not the head coach, but
- 1:27Speaker 3: he did something that changed theyither were okay beforehand, but
- 1:30Speaker 3: they felt they needed to make a change. He was
- 1:32Speaker 3: able to light the right fire. I hear he's probably best.
- 1:36Speaker 3: He's not good for the long term, but he is
- 1:38Speaker 3: good for short term. And I think you pretty much
- 1:41Speaker 3: proved that Mitch Martin had a phenomenal, phenomenal playoff that
- 1:47Speaker 3: they all had a pretty good uh as a team,
- 1:50Speaker 3: performed very very well, and they just hit it at
- 1:53Speaker 3: the right time. And that's a lot of what you're
- 1:56Speaker 3: dealing with, well with the playoffs, is you get hot,
- 1:59Speaker 3: you keep going, and they just performed at such a
- 2:02Speaker 3: high level. Yeah, they wind up losing the Caroline in
- 2:04Speaker 3: the end.
- 2:05Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:05Speaker 3: I was actually shocked they didn't get to the seventh
- 2:07Speaker 3: game because that series was just so phenomenal. But on
- 2:12Speaker 3: every every step of the way they they they were
- 2:16Speaker 3: just found a way to win. I mean, they already
- 2:18Speaker 3: had the offense, the defense was solid. Now, Carter Hart
- 2:21Speaker 3: not the greatest goalie, but in comparison to some of
- 2:24Speaker 3: the other guys he was playing against, like he completely
- 2:27Speaker 3: exposed Colorado. Colorado was one of the best teams in
- 2:32Speaker 3: the league, but there can't tandem of Mackenzie Blackwood and
- 2:35Speaker 3: Scott Wedgwood to solid goalies but both actually backups. Just
- 2:40Speaker 3: it did not work and that really that'll catch up
- 2:43Speaker 3: to you every time. And you know, Vegas just really
- 2:46Speaker 3: they they had the right combination and just got hot
- 2:49Speaker 3: at the right time and that's basically all it takes. Sometimes, Hey,
- 2:53Speaker 3: next year, they're going to be among the contenders next
- 2:55Speaker 3: year to win the winning the Cup. And it's let's
- 2:58Speaker 3: pit tip our captain because remember they haven't been the
- 3:01Speaker 3: league very long. I mean the first year they got
- 3:04Speaker 3: in they were expansion team. They got in and they
- 3:07Speaker 3: they their third final in how many years? So you know,
- 3:11Speaker 3: it's just yeah, it's just it's just a very well
- 3:14Speaker 3: run organization overall. And this is in Seattle. I mean,
- 3:17Speaker 3: they they get the same uh, they had the same
- 3:21Speaker 3: exact uh uh expansion rules and they're doing okay, but
- 3:25Speaker 3: they're not having the success Vegas is.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Saddel Crack and definitely have had Eric
- 3:32Speaker 1: have any thoughts about this.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Well, I could speak for Carolina because I've got a
- 3:37Speaker 2: cousin who's had season tickets, probably pretty close to day
- 3:39Speaker 2: one of that franchise when they came down from Connecticut
- 3:42Speaker 2: and I and I received NonStop text from them explaining
- 3:45Speaker 2: how happy they were, to the point where I had
- 3:47Speaker 2: to put my phone on silent because it wouldn't stop vibrating.
- 3:51Speaker 2: But you know, it's a you know, like anything, you
- 3:55Speaker 2: get hot at the right time and you make it. Obviously,
- 3:57Speaker 2: get in Tortorilla and they got they just captured him
- 4:00Speaker 2: at like the perfect at the perfect time to kind
- 4:02Speaker 2: of take them through the Stanley Cup. But overall, though
- 4:05Speaker 2: Vegas has put together a nice franchise for themselves at all,
- 4:08Speaker 2: it's all about having the right people in place at
- 4:11Speaker 2: the right time, because not every expand generally expansion teams
- 4:15Speaker 2: don't generally don't do well. But the NDHL has it
- 4:18Speaker 2: as such where they actually give that expansion team a
- 4:21Speaker 2: chance to actually, you know, compete a little bit. But
- 4:25Speaker 2: Vegas has put together clearly a a great organization. The
- 4:30Speaker 2: fans love them. I've heard nothing but great things about
- 4:32Speaker 2: their in stadium experience, and they clearly have a great
- 4:34Speaker 2: product on the ice. But when all those things come together,
- 4:38Speaker 2: you know, that's what happens. That's what well run organizations do.
- 4:42Speaker 2: You know, when you have when you have the right
- 4:44Speaker 2: people in place, any anything can happen. And clearly with
- 4:48Speaker 2: Vegas they've they've you know, they've been able to go
- 4:51Speaker 2: go to multiple Stanley Cups and you know that's that's
- 4:55Speaker 2: just how it goes. You know, it just depends on
- 4:56Speaker 2: the people you have in place. And it's a very
- 4:59Speaker 2: hard common the nation to come by.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Candy, you want to add.
- 5:03Speaker 4: To this, you know, I mean, every team needs to
- 5:09Speaker 4: find the way to win together because let's face it,
- 5:12Speaker 4: hockey is not an I team, it's not an individual team.
- 5:16Speaker 4: And so I think you need the right pieces to
- 5:21Speaker 4: to meld together that want to work together for the
- 5:24Speaker 4: common good. And yeah, they've had success, you know, their
- 5:30Speaker 4: first early years and they've had success lately a lot
- 5:35Speaker 4: of other teams haven't made the playoffs and no number
- 5:39Speaker 4: of years and to you know, build upon what Vegas
- 5:43Speaker 4: is doing.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Okay, let's continue the hockey team. Cordiyan who sports the
- 5:48Speaker 1: most watched Stanley Cup playoffs ever two point two million
- 5:50Speaker 1: viewers average viewers across the ESPN networks. Let's I'll tell
- 5:54Speaker 1: you one thing. This was an exciting series, wasn't it.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Oh?
- 5:58Speaker 3: Absolutely, I Like I said earlier, I thought I first
- 6:02Speaker 3: thought for sure they were going seven games because each
- 6:04Speaker 3: game was just action packed. It didn't matter what the
- 6:07Speaker 3: lead was, got the team with one moth like down
- 6:10Speaker 3: before nothing that came back, and it was just great hockey.
- 6:15Speaker 3: And part of that, and besides being great hockey, I
- 6:18Speaker 3: really think the Olympics had something to do with it,
- 6:21Speaker 3: because let's really face back, most people, the general public
- 6:24Speaker 3: doesn't really pay attention to hockey unless you know, US
- 6:28Speaker 3: is in the Hockey Olympics, and they won the gold medal,
- 6:32Speaker 3: so everybody was watching that. So I think I'm gonna
- 6:35Speaker 3: watch either way. It doesn't matter. I'm going to watch
- 6:37Speaker 3: either way. But for most people it's like they only
- 6:40Speaker 3: pop their head around, oh wait, it's the Olympics. So
- 6:42Speaker 3: there was probably a little bit of a little bit
- 6:46Speaker 3: of impact from that, Hey let's watch this, and yeah,
- 6:49Speaker 3: so it's it was. It was just such a great
- 6:53Speaker 3: series to watch. The hockey was just top notch, just
- 6:57Speaker 3: the games with the scripts. If you're writing a script,
- 7:02Speaker 3: it felt like they were writing a script. Just it
- 7:05Speaker 3: just it was just such good quality hockey and and
- 7:09Speaker 3: just yeah, overall, I I was. I was very happy
- 7:12Speaker 3: by that series and hopefully maybe I always hope that
- 7:16Speaker 3: this will like propel it, but I just have a
- 7:20Speaker 3: feeling at the end of But when the season starts
- 7:22Speaker 3: again next season, you know in October, it's like, we'll
- 7:26Speaker 3: see if it if it continues, because we're not gonna
- 7:29Speaker 3: have Olympics for another four years. There.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Well, I think with you know, it was an action
- 7:36Speaker 2: packed Stanley Cup, no doubt, and you know there was
- 7:38Speaker 2: there was no loser, and it was two winners and
- 7:40Speaker 2: one champion, is how I That's how I saw the
- 7:42Speaker 2: series went to matter of fact with hockey though, Al
- 7:44Speaker 2: Michaels said said this back back during the Miracle on Ice,
- 7:48Speaker 2: which actually rings true, is the general public can't can't
- 7:51Speaker 2: can't tell the difference between a blue line and a
- 7:53Speaker 2: closed line, but they the But you know, it was
- 7:58Speaker 2: action packed. It was there. It was a very exciting
- 8:01Speaker 2: all around, and you know, you just can't complain about
- 8:04Speaker 2: the series. You couldn't be mad if your team lost
- 8:06Speaker 2: because it was that action pack, because no lead was
- 8:09Speaker 2: safe because it was that exciting. Yes, there was some
- 8:12Speaker 2: heartbreak there, but it was constant action. The America loves
- 8:17Speaker 2: action and that's what they got.
- 8:19Speaker 1: KD.
- 8:22Speaker 4: Yeah. The Stanley Cup averaged one point eight million viewers
- 8:26Speaker 4: across ABC, ESPN, and TNT. This shatters the previous nineteen
- 8:32Speaker 4: ninety six record of one point five six million viewers
- 8:37Speaker 4: by seventeen percent and marked a massive sixty eight percent
- 8:42Speaker 4: increase over the previous year's viewership. The combined US and
- 8:49Speaker 4: Canadian viewership for the first two rounds averaged an all
- 8:53Speaker 4: time high of three point three million viewers across all
- 8:56Speaker 4: networks despite featuring two non traditional hockey markets. In the
- 9:03Speaker 4: Stanley Cup final Carolina versus Vegas, this series was the
- 9:07Speaker 4: most watched Cup Final since twenty nineteen.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Yeah the question. It was a classic series, that's for sure,
- 9:16Speaker 1: and the public got their money's worth it every game
- 9:19Speaker 1: was closed. That really was. I don't want to make routes.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Carter Hart, he gave up four goals in
- 9:26Speaker 1: like I think every one but the last game. But nevertheless,
- 9:29Speaker 1: the kid played this hard out and John Torderella Rollom.
- 9:31Speaker 1: You have to write your best goaltender, no matter what
- 9:33Speaker 1: they say. All right, let's change it over to baseball.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Extended Lewis Blaro seven year contract with three club options
- 9:42Speaker 1: thirty one million per Jeff passion knopped out at seventy
- 9:46Speaker 1: nine million. Laura's currently in Triple A, will need to
- 9:50Speaker 1: be added to the forty man roster for the deal
- 9:52Speaker 1: to be official. What are your thoughts about this move, Eric.
- 9:55Speaker 2: I think I think that it's a good move for
- 9:58Speaker 2: the Burrs clearly, like the direction right now in baseball
- 10:01Speaker 2: is to sign these young players while you can, before
- 10:04Speaker 2: they hit free agency, so that way you keep them
- 10:06Speaker 2: in your on your team a lot longer. A small
- 10:08Speaker 2: market team like the Brewers has to make these bets
- 10:10Speaker 2: if they want to keep their players around, because the
- 10:12Speaker 2: better the better those players get, the more the more
- 10:16Speaker 2: money they'll be able to make on the open market
- 10:18Speaker 2: in free agency, to the point where it prices the
- 10:21Speaker 2: Brewers out of what they're comfortable paying their players. You know,
- 10:24Speaker 2: I think it's a good move. Granted he hasn't made
- 10:26Speaker 2: to that. He hasn't made to the show yet, but
- 10:29Speaker 2: but I have a feeling that will be soon. Because
- 10:32Speaker 2: salth Frelick out in the outfield, man his bat is
- 10:34Speaker 2: making he should be feeling very queasy right now because
- 10:38Speaker 2: his bat has yet to get going, and and Lewis
- 10:42Speaker 2: Laura just signed that extension. It will only be a
- 10:43Speaker 2: matter of time before he'll have to compete for a
- 10:45Speaker 2: job in spring training.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Some talks about this kid.
- 10:51Speaker 3: It's actually a little surprising that they did. I mean,
- 10:54Speaker 3: the kid hasn't come up yet. That's the thing that's
- 10:56Speaker 3: really surprising to me. I understand you have to take
- 10:59Speaker 3: a different strategy when you are a small market team,
- 11:03Speaker 3: but I mean it was it was surprising to me
- 11:05Speaker 3: that they were willing before he's even come up and
- 11:09Speaker 3: really proven himself. You know, I get having the confidence
- 11:13Speaker 3: in them and the heck, the kid's gonna take it.
- 11:15Speaker 3: You want to. I haven't even come up yet, and
- 11:17Speaker 3: you're gonna give me this contract. Yeah, sure, Yeah, I'll
- 11:20Speaker 3: sign on the dotted line there. It's it's you know,
- 11:24Speaker 3: it's a it's a good move by Milwaukee. Let's just
- 11:27Speaker 3: hope it, uh it does pan out for I'm sure
- 11:30Speaker 3: it will. I don't think they would have given him
- 11:32Speaker 3: that money if they uh and that kind of commitment.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Uh.
- 11:36Speaker 3: It's you know, it's well and there's a reason why
- 11:38Speaker 3: Milwaukee has been doing pretty well even though they're not
- 11:41Speaker 3: They don't have the highest uh payroll in the in
- 11:46Speaker 3: the league. They still find a way to be competitive,
- 11:48Speaker 3: make the playoffs, and they're doing a lot better than
- 11:51Speaker 3: some other teams who've got massive payrolls.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Mary, I appreciate the comment. I think you subscribe, so Stu.
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- 12:07Speaker 1: I appreciate you and all the growth and other people
- 12:09Speaker 1: in the chat room. Kendy, some thoughts about this kid,
- 12:12Speaker 1: Louis Lara.
- 12:14Speaker 4: Milwaukee recently signed his twenty one year old outfielder to
- 12:18Speaker 4: a seven year, thirty one million dollar extension with three
- 12:22Speaker 4: club options. That he's now ranked Milwaukee's number fifth overall prospect.
- 12:30Speaker 4: That doesn't tell the entire story, though, of how good
- 12:33Speaker 4: his season's been. Sure, it's great to be called the
- 12:36Speaker 4: team's number five prospect, but he would be a handful
- 12:41Speaker 4: of teams number one overall prospect if you were elsewhere
- 12:45Speaker 4: right now. That's just a testament to how good Milwaukee's
- 12:48Speaker 4: farm system is overall. He has played in sixty eight
- 12:52Speaker 4: games so far this season for TRIPAA Nashville and is
- 12:56Speaker 4: slashing three twenty seven four thirty five, four sixty two
- 13:00Speaker 4: with a eight ninety seven ops, seven home homers, thirty
- 13:05Speaker 4: two RBIs, twenty stolen bases, forty six walks, nine doubles,
- 13:12Speaker 4: two triples, fifty seven runs scored in sixty eight games
- 13:17Speaker 4: so far, he has more walks than strikeouts forty six
- 13:21Speaker 4: to forty one. He's having a really good season. He
- 13:26Speaker 4: deserves to be called up and have a contract. Milwaukee
- 13:29Speaker 4: has to do it differently than a lot of other teams.
- 13:33Speaker 4: They do it by developing young and hitting on young prospects.
- 13:38Speaker 4: They've hit on a lot of young prospects, so I
- 13:40Speaker 4: have to give them credit. But then they develop them
- 13:44Speaker 4: and yeah, Milwaukee needs some good star power like this.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Well, the salary camp is inevitable, Well, at least I
- 13:54Speaker 1: want to think it is, because I think they're gonna
- 13:56Speaker 1: this is gonna get ugly anyways in Florida, and teams
- 13:58Speaker 1: are gonna have to spend a lot more money with
- 14:00Speaker 1: the floor. But the reality is Milwaukee been consistently only
- 14:03Speaker 1: thing you haven't done is get to the World Tree
- 14:05Speaker 1: and win it. But in terms of their ability to
- 14:08Speaker 1: win on the field consistently with arguably one of the
- 14:11Speaker 1: best fan bases in the country, more power TomEE. You
- 14:13Speaker 1: know what, Candy, Well, we have an go ahead, Candy,
- 14:16Speaker 1: can I just.
- 14:17Speaker 4: Want to add one last thing. He's getting better and
- 14:20Speaker 4: better as it goes. Yesterday he went five for five
- 14:26Speaker 4: in Triple A Nashville, his first five hit performance.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Our Katie, will we have a couple of minutes at
- 14:33Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour or older people will be
- 14:35Speaker 1: coming in. Why don't you go ahead and spend a little
- 14:37Speaker 1: time on our travel channel. I think it'd be something.
- 14:40Speaker 1: We had an opportunity to go to Key West this weekend.
- 14:42Speaker 1: I want everybody that's watching or listening for the first
- 14:44Speaker 1: time to give an overview about what we experience and
- 14:48Speaker 1: what we're looking forward to accomplish on this channel. Go ahead.
- 14:51Speaker 4: So the new channel is Destination Discoveries Media Network. I'm
- 14:58Speaker 4: going to put up in the upper right upper left.
- 15:00Speaker 4: I'm sorry, is a QR code for the YouTube channel.
- 15:04Speaker 4: Otherwise you can just type in Destination Discovery Discoveries Media
- 15:09Speaker 4: Network if you would a police subscribe. It is a
- 15:11Speaker 4: travel channel for us. So right now we are putting
- 15:15Speaker 4: up all of the videos we took over the weekend
- 15:18Speaker 4: in Key West, whether it be driving down, whether it
- 15:22Speaker 4: be on whichever key we were on, which it might be,
- 15:26Speaker 4: it's gonna there's gonna be a video on the southernmost point.
- 15:29Speaker 4: There's a video on if any of you, and we're
- 15:34Speaker 4: gonna be doing reviews too. If any of you like
- 15:37Speaker 4: key Lime Pie, I'm gonna tell you gotta go check
- 15:42Speaker 4: out our YouTube channel because we had what I would
- 15:46Speaker 4: say was a six inch tall piece that we split
- 15:50Speaker 4: key Lime Pie. So and that was at Blue Heaven
- 15:55Speaker 4: and we're gonna we talked to some people, uh they
- 16:00Speaker 4: we went to the southernmost hockey rink, so that you
- 16:06Speaker 4: have to go check out and see what they do there.
- 16:10Speaker 4: We have a lot of other videos. We went to Spain.
- 16:13Speaker 4: We went on a fourteen night cruise to Portugal, Spain, Germany, Paris.
- 16:20Speaker 4: We're gonna have all kinds of videos from those up there. Portugal,
- 16:24Speaker 4: we went to US soccer. Soccer is really popular right now,
- 16:29Speaker 4: we're talking about World Cup and everything like that. We
- 16:31Speaker 4: when we were over in Portugal, we went to a
- 16:34Speaker 4: beneficta soccer game. We have. We talked to a fan
- 16:39Speaker 4: in the stand there. Go check out our YouTube channel.
- 16:43Speaker 4: Make sure you're you hit the subscribe button. Last year
- 16:47Speaker 4: we went to Iceland, Norway. We're gonna put some of
- 16:50Speaker 4: our videos from there up on there. We're gonna be
- 16:53Speaker 4: doing reviews. I said on the last show. We stayed
- 16:58Speaker 4: in a hotel, Sugarloaf.
- 17:02Speaker 5: Lodge.
- 17:03Speaker 4: I believe it was. It is the only and I
- 17:07Speaker 4: repeat the only, and it used to be a mom
- 17:10Speaker 4: and pop but now it's sister and brother owned. The
- 17:13Speaker 4: only hotel in the Keys that is old Florida and
- 17:18Speaker 4: not corporate owned. So it is still a sister and
- 17:21Speaker 4: brother that own it. Uh and it is old Florida,
- 17:25Speaker 4: but it has some beautiful views. It was a good price.
- 17:30Speaker 4: Go check out the YouTube channel because we're going to
- 17:32Speaker 4: be talking. We talk all about different things like that
- 17:35Speaker 4: on that YouTube channel.
- 17:37Speaker 1: In fact, what we're going to do Candy next Wednesday
- 17:39Speaker 1: night is we're going to go out there and putting
- 17:41Speaker 1: that video with only one or two minutes here on
- 17:44Speaker 1: that little rink outside. It is really a cool place,
- 17:47Speaker 1: it really was. We're gonna bring that on the Sports Exchange, Cliff,
- 17:49Speaker 1: you'll see it. We're also going to put it on
- 17:51Speaker 1: Sports Rep. That may wait a little while because we're
- 17:53Speaker 1: so encroaching at the soccer as well. So lots of
- 17:55Speaker 1: great topics lined up. We're looking forward to have Robin
- 17:58Speaker 1: Chris a little bit later on in the show, hopefully'll
- 18:00Speaker 1: get in here. But you know some of the things
- 18:02Speaker 1: that Blue Heaven, that was a cool place, and you
- 18:05Speaker 1: know what I want you to do, Katie, when you
- 18:07Speaker 1: reach out to those people again, make reference that we
- 18:10Speaker 1: mentioned that tonight's addition on the Sports Exchange all because
- 18:13Speaker 1: those people are really nice people. That was really a nice,
- 18:16Speaker 1: nice place. And when I saw a piece of key
- 18:19Speaker 1: lime pie that big, it was just on the leave ball.
- 18:25Speaker 1: So as they continue and tact, you know what, Katie,
- 18:28Speaker 1: while we're waiting for other people to come on, and
- 18:31Speaker 1: it's fresh in my mind, why don't you go ahead
- 18:32Speaker 1: and give me your thoughts on Janna Sannade couple going
- 18:35Speaker 1: out there to Milwaukee and Eric, you give us your
- 18:38Speaker 1: thoughts too.
- 18:41Speaker 4: The Milwaukee Bucks for a couple of years now have
- 18:45Speaker 4: talked about needing to Not necessarily they wanted to trade him,
- 18:51Speaker 4: but I think they knew the writing was on the wall.
- 18:53Speaker 4: He's a free agent next year. They're not going to
- 18:55Speaker 4: be able to afford him. They've tried bringing in numerous
- 18:59Speaker 4: plays to compliment him, to bring him. Let's face it,
- 19:04Speaker 4: he brought a championship to Milwaukee. Milwaukee owes him a lot.
- 19:09Speaker 4: He owes Milwaukee a lot though too, because Milwaukee brought
- 19:13Speaker 4: him over, they grafted him, they brought over his whole family.
- 19:19Speaker 4: So it was a win win for them. And unfortunately
- 19:24Speaker 4: this is a business and so he is now going
- 19:28Speaker 4: to be in Miami heat. They traded him to get
- 19:30Speaker 4: up to get a return now because next year he's
- 19:33Speaker 4: going to be a free agent and they wouldn't get
- 19:35Speaker 4: anything for him. So they've got a bunch of draft picks.
- 19:39Speaker 4: This is the first draft pick we had since twenty
- 19:42Speaker 4: sixteen in the lottery. So yeah, sad to see him
- 19:49Speaker 4: go because he has such a face in Milwaukee. There's
- 19:52Speaker 4: a mural painted downtown of him. He did a lot
- 19:58Speaker 4: for Milwaukee, but he brought us a championship back in
- 20:02Speaker 4: twenty one, and so we'll never forget that. Milwaukee's not
- 20:06Speaker 4: used to having a lot of championship. But uh, he
- 20:10Speaker 4: will be missed.
- 20:12Speaker 1: Campig grudging for Kareem Anvidol Jabbar went to the Lakers
- 20:15Speaker 1: and he stayed there a lot longer than most of
- 20:16Speaker 1: them did. But Eric some thoughts of Kareiman affl Jabbar Louel, Cinder,
- 20:21Speaker 1: wherever you want to call him. Either ways, those guys
- 20:24Speaker 1: are iconic.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Go ahead, thoughts, Well, Giannis obviously brought. I did a
- 20:28Speaker 2: lot for the city and brought the city. It brought
- 20:31Speaker 2: the city a championship. You cannot blame him for wanting
- 20:34Speaker 2: to go win somewhere else, you can you you know
- 20:38Speaker 2: what the writing was on the wall, what the what
- 20:41Speaker 2: the Bucks did was they they kept making reactionary, reactionary
- 20:45Speaker 2: moves to try and woo him into leaving into excuse
- 20:48Speaker 2: me staying. They kept on. They did that with they
- 20:50Speaker 2: made a mistake of trading Drew Holliday for including Drew
- 20:54Speaker 2: Holliday and the deal that I brought that eventually brought
- 20:56Speaker 2: them Dame Lillard, and he ends up getting hurt to
- 21:00Speaker 2: no avail. So like you can, so, I probably say
- 21:03Speaker 2: for the situation, you know, and for for resulting for Yanna,
- 21:06Speaker 2: for what's resulted in Yannis leaving, I blame John Horst.
- 21:11Speaker 2: He just kept making reactionary trades. The Bucks management kept
- 21:14Speaker 2: on reacting to yeat the possibility of Yannis leaving. Well,
- 21:18Speaker 2: I got news for them. It's a business. The players
- 21:21Speaker 2: want to win. But I don't fault Jannis whatsoever. You know,
- 21:26Speaker 2: it shouldn't be a situation like like it's that if
- 21:28Speaker 2: you're comparing Craig council leaving to Jannis, those two who
- 21:33Speaker 2: are not are not the same thing. Jannis left because
- 21:36Speaker 2: he's he's becoming an older player now and he wants
- 21:39Speaker 2: to continue winning. You can't fault them for that. And
- 21:40Speaker 2: he's got a great opportunity in Miami with Eric Spolstra
- 21:43Speaker 2: and pat Riley who are proven winners. But you know,
- 21:47Speaker 2: you but if if you got someone to be angry at,
- 21:50Speaker 2: you got to be angry at John Horace for not
- 21:52Speaker 2: keeping it going after twenty twenty one.
- 21:56Speaker 1: I mean, pat Riley is who he is, he wants
- 21:59Speaker 1: in his reputation should speak for ourselves. You have tons
- 22:01Speaker 1: and tons of championship.
- 22:04Speaker 2: He also doesn't bow down anybody.
- 22:07Speaker 1: Well, like I said, he's not afraid to let Lebron
- 22:09Speaker 1: James have it either. He's he's gone on record doing it.
- 22:13Speaker 3: Well, they did what they had to do, and this
- 22:16Speaker 3: isn't the first time we've heard this guy. He's gonna
- 22:20Speaker 3: be a free agent, especially when you're in a smaller
- 22:23Speaker 3: in a smaller market. They've he's probably it's he's probably
- 22:27Speaker 3: wanted a new challenge anyway, you know, go someplace else,
- 22:30Speaker 3: maybe a bigger market, win more. And yeah, like everyone's saying,
- 22:35Speaker 3: it is a business, I'm not surprised. I wish some
- 22:37Speaker 3: of my teams would do that and not just let
- 22:39Speaker 3: people go and at least try to get something out
- 22:42Speaker 3: of it. They got something out of it, and good
- 22:44Speaker 3: for Milwaukee, and maybe this can be the good uh,
- 22:47Speaker 3: A good pathway to a new a new uh, a
- 22:50Speaker 3: new type of success with new you know, because that's
- 22:52Speaker 3: what you have to do. It's sports. Everybody gets older.
- 22:55Speaker 3: Nobody doesn't know everybody's going to retire. Not that he's
- 22:58Speaker 3: not good anymore, but if he's gonna go, get something
- 23:02Speaker 3: for him, move on. Might take a few years. But
- 23:05Speaker 3: then we'll see what happens in the extra years and
- 23:08Speaker 3: maybe they'll have a Maybe he'll have two, three, four
- 23:11Speaker 3: championships with the new guys they get.
- 23:15Speaker 4: Well, go ahead, Candy, No, no, I have something else,
- 23:21Speaker 4: But if you want.
- 23:22Speaker 1: To go ahead, No, that's okay, go ahead.
- 23:25Speaker 4: I just wanted I did bring up a picture. I'm
- 23:27Speaker 4: gonna show you a picture of the key line pie
- 23:30Speaker 4: that we had at Blue Heaven there.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Okay. One.
- 23:38Speaker 3: I went to Key West many years ago on a
- 23:41Speaker 3: cruise and yeah, that looks about right. I saw some
- 23:44Speaker 3: key lined pies. They were all kind of like kind
- 23:46Speaker 3: of like that. So I'm not really surprised to seeing that.
- 23:53Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you and I have no
- 23:55Speaker 1: problem with this. By the end of the weekend, I
- 23:58Speaker 1: was key line pied out. I had where. I mean,
- 24:03Speaker 1: I know you're never going to eat key lime high
- 24:05Speaker 1: it off because it is. It is really really good.
- 24:09Speaker 1: And when we went to the big shill down in
- 24:13Speaker 1: Key Largo, what do you think ends up happening down there? Uh,
- 24:17Speaker 1: they give us a card there if you do a survey,
- 24:19Speaker 1: that will get them key lime pie, and Candy will
- 24:22Speaker 1: work on that. She'll get her key lime pie. That's
- 24:24Speaker 1: her a little reward for throwing those things out.
- 24:26Speaker 3: Do you normally eat key lime pie outside of Key West, Florida?
- 24:31Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you brought it up. Let
- 24:33Speaker 1: me tell you that. Here's the deal, Cliff, here's a
- 24:36Speaker 1: place called the key Lime House. Candy right up and
- 24:39Speaker 1: what's the lake worth? I think it is yep, and
- 24:42Speaker 1: it is really really good.
- 24:44Speaker 4: It's right on the water, right on the inner coastal.
- 24:48Speaker 4: And I'll be honest with you down here, Cliff Publics
- 24:51Speaker 4: sells key Lime pies in all of their stores.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Okay, well that makes sense, you're right by it makes sense.
- 24:57Speaker 3: I was gonna wonder, it's like it's one of the things. Well,
- 25:00Speaker 3: you're a key West, so you should you know, get that.
- 25:03Speaker 3: But I was wondering if you like did that normally?
- 25:06Speaker 3: You know, so that's not something that the typical person
- 25:09Speaker 3: will go get and eat. I'm gonna have some key
- 25:11Speaker 3: Line pie and that's the normal thing you do.
- 25:16Speaker 2: I will I will say this in regards to Janna sleeping,
- 25:20Speaker 2: and this is just about sports in general, with all
- 25:24Speaker 2: these dynasties in the sport, like the Lakers and the
- 25:26Speaker 2: Celtics and uh and and and you can you name it.
- 25:30Speaker 2: You pick a dynasty, you name it. Have you ever
- 25:31Speaker 2: noticed the roster changes from your the year. These guys
- 25:35Speaker 2: truly just don't just quote unquote run it back like
- 25:38Speaker 2: most people want them. That's because in sports there's attrition
- 25:43Speaker 2: where the athletes gets older and they start to lose
- 25:45Speaker 2: their skills. There's free agency these days, especially when when
- 25:48Speaker 2: you perform well, your value goes up and up and
- 25:51Speaker 2: don't think for a second these days there you're gonna
- 25:53Speaker 2: take a discount when you could really cash in big
- 25:56Speaker 2: and set yourself up for for life after your after
- 25:59Speaker 2: you're done playing. And then there's also trades where sometimes
- 26:03Speaker 2: trades will you know if people get traded because there's
- 26:06Speaker 2: either a younger player, draft pick, whatever that's attractive to
- 26:09Speaker 2: what you have. Man, it's just the cycle of It's
- 26:12Speaker 2: just the cycle of life with Giannis. Is it sad
- 26:15Speaker 2: that he left, Yes, but that is the cycle of
- 26:18Speaker 2: life in sports. If Bucks fans are upset that he left,
- 26:22Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you, but I would
- 26:24Speaker 2: I would highly highly recommend that you embrace this rebuild
- 26:28Speaker 2: because this team has needed it for a while, and
- 26:31Speaker 2: be thankful though that this didn't just this didn't get
- 26:35Speaker 2: so bad that Jannis is a free agent and your
- 26:38Speaker 2: team bottomed out at fifteen wins because you've seen that movie.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Bucks fans, Well.
- 26:43Speaker 4: The only other thing I will add Eric is, honestly, this,
- 26:48Speaker 4: as much as people will say we are a small market,
- 26:52Speaker 4: Wisconsin's been blessed. They had the likes of Brett Favre,
- 26:57Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers got a championship, Yelich's you know played for
- 27:02Speaker 4: the Brewers for a long time. Giannis brought a championship.
- 27:06Speaker 4: We've had some good players play. Yes, maybe we don't
- 27:09Speaker 4: have as many championships as a lot of other teams,
- 27:13Speaker 4: but we've had some big key name players that have
- 27:17Speaker 4: played for us. And we could be like I don't know,
- 27:21Speaker 4: all Cleveland Browns or some other places that haven't had
- 27:25Speaker 4: success in some of the other sports as well, whereas
- 27:30Speaker 4: we've had a little bit of success in all of
- 27:32Speaker 4: those sports. So, yes, we don't have a World Series,
- 27:35Speaker 4: but we've been to the playoffs numerous times.
- 27:38Speaker 2: The teams consistently their teams have been consistently good in
- 27:42Speaker 2: recent years, and you know that that just comes to
- 27:44Speaker 2: stand the testament of how of how those organizations operate,
- 27:48Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I'll go back to even before
- 27:50Speaker 2: Brett barrk we can go back to Bart, we can
- 27:52Speaker 2: go back to Part Starr, we can go back to
- 27:54Speaker 2: Jim Hornhan, we can go back to Max McGee and
- 27:57Speaker 2: with the Brewers, Robin Yeah, Paul Maltors should have finished
- 28:00Speaker 2: as a Brewer. On a side note, we you know,
- 28:04Speaker 2: Christian Yaliz has even said that he wants some when
- 28:06Speaker 2: and when queried about this, He said that he wants
- 28:08Speaker 2: the Brewers to be his last team that comes to
- 28:11Speaker 2: standard the testament of how great it is playing in
- 28:14Speaker 2: this state.
- 28:16Speaker 1: You know, at a time when the NBA Draft is
- 28:18Speaker 1: going on, I want to bring up something very significant.
- 28:21Speaker 1: We don't talk about the NBA much, but I'm gonna
- 28:22Speaker 1: mention that anyway, the certain situations are worth it. But
- 28:25Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings, of all teams, have ended their pursuit
- 28:30Speaker 1: of John Morant. They have the Sacramento Kings. Here's the
- 28:34Speaker 1: guy that has had so many off the field issues
- 28:37Speaker 1: in recent years. And if any team could use them, Candy,
- 28:43Speaker 1: don't you think Jama Rant did easily should easily go
- 28:46Speaker 1: ahead to them?
- 28:50Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 28:50Speaker 4: I mean I think. But then again, what kind of
- 28:54Speaker 4: culture are you bringing if you bring him over knowing
- 28:57Speaker 4: that he's had so many off the field problems, uh issues, suspensions.
- 29:05Speaker 4: I mean, if you're building a culture, I don't know
- 29:09Speaker 4: that that's the kind of culture you want to bring
- 29:11Speaker 4: over from somebody else's problems.
- 29:14Speaker 1: Two years got Doug Christy there. This team is awful.
- 29:17Speaker 1: They let Mike Brown go a year ago, Well, and
- 29:20Speaker 1: where's Mike Brown? He goes to New York and he
- 29:23Speaker 1: wins a championship. This guy's going to get a statue
- 29:25Speaker 1: in the Big Apple and he left you got It's upful.
- 29:30Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm not saying that Jamarant Okay is
- 29:33Speaker 1: a choir boy, but give me a break. The Sacramento
- 29:37Speaker 1: King doesn't want Jamarant that bad. Eric, say what you want?
- 29:42Speaker 2: This is?
- 29:43Speaker 1: This topic is not censored?
- 29:45Speaker 2: Well, well, I will say. I will say this though,
- 29:48Speaker 2: because the Sacramento Kings have been bad for have been
- 29:51Speaker 2: bad for a very long time, save for some pockets
- 29:53Speaker 2: of some playoff appearances here and there in recent years.
- 29:56Speaker 2: But you can thank Tim Donahan for putting them in
- 29:59Speaker 2: the garbage can, which they really have never recovered from.
- 30:02Speaker 2: But but here's but here's the thing. John Moran is
- 30:07Speaker 2: arguably worse than Gilbert Arenas. Okay, you know, in terms
- 30:11Speaker 2: of in terms of his in terms of hit what
- 30:13Speaker 2: he does, in terms of him deciding to be stupid
- 30:16Speaker 2: enough to show a gun on camera more than once
- 30:19Speaker 2: when the NBA specifically tells you not to do that.
- 30:23Speaker 2: You know, Gilbert, Gilbert Arenas, his only sin was he
- 30:25Speaker 2: put he stored him in the locker room, which was
- 30:27Speaker 2: against DC law. It was a bad situation. Yes, but
- 30:31Speaker 2: not but but Gilbert area but and to make matters worse,
- 30:34Speaker 2: Gilbert Arenas decided to do like a gun like celebration
- 30:37Speaker 2: to show that he didn't get the point. But John
- 30:38Speaker 2: Morant was brainless enough to show that he actually had
- 30:41Speaker 2: it on camera when the NBA and his team specifically
- 30:43Speaker 2: told him not to do that. It kind of reminds me,
- 30:46Speaker 2: It reminds me of it. It reminds me of the
- 30:48Speaker 2: other night with what It's almost as dylan as dumb
- 30:50Speaker 2: as what Brandon Ayuke did it from yesterday's conversation. But
- 30:55Speaker 2: I'm telling you he is. He The guys, they the
- 30:59Speaker 2: guys are freaking pariah.
- 31:01Speaker 1: You know.
- 31:02Speaker 2: The Kings, you know, even at bad teams, do not
- 31:05Speaker 2: do not want that. Heck, there were there are plenty,
- 31:07Speaker 2: you know. I mean to me, the Sacramento Kings are
- 31:10Speaker 2: like or like the or what the Arizona Cardinals used
- 31:12Speaker 2: to be under Bill Bidwell for a very long time.
- 31:15Speaker 2: They would they would get a player past his prime
- 31:19Speaker 2: and and then hope that he can return to his
- 31:22Speaker 2: prime at least to draw people into before they got
- 31:24Speaker 2: their new stadium. But but you know, now, you know
- 31:29Speaker 2: that the Kings just have no idea what they're doing.
- 31:33Speaker 2: They're just they're just so dysfunctional. And the only thing
- 31:37Speaker 2: noteworthy about him is there. The is the only there's
- 31:39Speaker 2: nothing really noteworthy about him, except for in their previous
- 31:43Speaker 2: life they had Oscar Robertson. But that's about it.
- 31:49Speaker 1: Kay Cliff said a muffel.
- 31:52Speaker 3: Them to move them to Pittsburgh. Okay, move them to Pittsburgh.
- 31:56Speaker 3: Pittsburgh doesn't have a basketball team. Sacramento having a team
- 31:59Speaker 3: to meet he is silly, you know, it's uh, you know,
- 32:03Speaker 3: it's just because guys, apparently another guy just doesn't get it.
- 32:09Speaker 3: You're gonna have knuckleheads. They're gonna have knuckleheads out there.
- 32:12Speaker 3: They always seem to pop up. But you know, it's
- 32:16Speaker 3: it's it's so we so he should he should pay
- 32:19Speaker 3: the price, never get signed again, or like, if he
- 32:23Speaker 3: does get signed, give him a hard time about it. Whatever.
- 32:28Speaker 3: But you know, you know how I feel. But I
- 32:29Speaker 3: don't like Sacramento for having a team. I'm sorry. I
- 32:33Speaker 3: don't know if nothing against the city itself, but I
- 32:36Speaker 3: just don't think they're worthy of a major league franchise
- 32:38Speaker 3: of any kind.
- 32:40Speaker 1: They do support.
- 32:43Speaker 3: That, I'm sure, I'm sure they do, but I don't
- 32:45Speaker 3: think if you're gonna have a professional league wise they.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Just open open fans support for that matter.
- 32:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a better feeling for Oakland than I
- 32:58Speaker 3: do Sacramento. Okay, David, It's like it's like Albany doesn't
- 33:04Speaker 3: have a professional team. Uh, like the Harrisburg doesn't have
- 33:09Speaker 3: a professional team because in the Capitol Now Sacramento, come on,
- 33:13Speaker 3: it's like the scream minor league and it's and that's
- 33:17Speaker 3: like I said, the NBA is weird. NBA is weird
- 33:19Speaker 3: because they put these teams in these weird places. Nobody
- 33:22Speaker 3: else has teams.
- 33:25Speaker 1: And you know what you just said it right there,
- 33:27Speaker 1: So I'm gonna expand them what you just said. Number one,
- 33:31Speaker 1: the NBA, I'll give you that much. Okay. They put
- 33:34Speaker 1: a lot of teams and markets where they're the only
- 33:36Speaker 1: game in town. I hate clip. I'm giving you that one. Yeah,
- 33:39Speaker 1: because you're dead right. Utah didn't have any teams for
- 33:42Speaker 1: a while, and obviously Portland is an example of that
- 33:45Speaker 1: as well. Sacramento, Memphis doesn't have anything there. There's four
- 33:50Speaker 1: or five off the top of my head. I'm sure
- 33:51Speaker 1: probably one or two more that are getting passed huh, Orlando, Orlando,
- 33:57Speaker 1: San Antonio. Yes, that one.
- 34:04Speaker 3: We're talking Sacramento. We're talking Sacramento. Though Sacramento is not
- 34:08Speaker 3: this big. It's not a big metropolis. It's Sacramento. So
- 34:13Speaker 3: what please they? They haven't won anything. It doesn't make
- 34:18Speaker 3: any sense to me to have that. It doesn't make
- 34:22Speaker 3: any sense whatsoever. They might as well move them to Anaheim.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Move them to Anaheim. You know, it's like, why not?
- 34:28Speaker 3: You know, so it's.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Funny you say that they actually contemplated that on doing
- 34:32Speaker 1: that before they ended up getting You want to keep.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Them California moving to San Diego.
- 34:38Speaker 1: No, No, that blew up there, Darling.
- 34:45Speaker 3: Then't Pittsburgh have a team? I never understood that. Why
- 34:48Speaker 3: did they have everything else? Why don't they Why they
- 34:50Speaker 3: they don't like basketball over there? I'm like, you tell
- 34:53Speaker 3: me they don't like basketball. They can't.
- 34:56Speaker 1: Support it how far at all?
- 34:58Speaker 3: It just doesn't make sense to me. The Sacramento. I
- 35:01Speaker 3: don't like Sacramentos as a professional franchise, even if it's
- 35:05Speaker 3: minor league. Sure, but they don't G League. Sure, they
- 35:08Speaker 3: screamed G League.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Listen, you just got the Washington Wizards and they landed
- 35:12Speaker 1: the number one team player in the draft. Are you
- 35:15Speaker 1: at least a little excited about that?
- 35:18Speaker 3: Not really, I know, because you're not.
- 35:21Speaker 2: I'm not.
- 35:22Speaker 1: Guy.
- 35:24Speaker 3: If I can trash, if I can trashmen a little
- 35:26Speaker 3: bit in the trashman a little bit, I'm gonna have
- 35:28Speaker 3: fun with that nice star. Sacramento as a team doesn't
- 35:31Speaker 3: make sense at all. The only reason Orlando has is
- 35:34Speaker 3: because Tampa's got everything else. And well, yeah, Orlando's got
- 35:36Speaker 3: Disney World, so they threw him a bone. Heck, they
- 35:39Speaker 3: might even get the Rays now the way the Tampa
- 35:42Speaker 3: is working with the with the stadium there. But I
- 35:45Speaker 3: mean that makes a little bit more sense than the Sacramento.
- 35:50Speaker 2: It also helped though, that that that the Orlando Magic
- 35:53Speaker 2: got Penny in Shack, so that kind of piping up
- 35:56Speaker 2: their popularity too.
- 35:57Speaker 3: And they're still they're still living off that they're still
- 35:59Speaker 3: living on that even it was pretty good too, but
- 36:03Speaker 3: I mean they've been there for a while now, yep.
- 36:06Speaker 3: And I was like, so let's say they're still living
- 36:08Speaker 3: off I said, these guys aren't trying. I'm okay with
- 36:13Speaker 3: it because I mean it's it's still so they're kind
- 36:16Speaker 3: of like got tamp over there. So they kind of
- 36:18Speaker 3: give them a break there, so they throw them a
- 36:20Speaker 3: bone over there, and Disney World's there. Disney World wasn't there,
- 36:23Speaker 3: Orlando wouldn't wouldn't even be thought of for a second,
- 36:28Speaker 3: you know, with Disney they own anything over.
- 36:31Speaker 2: There, considering considering all the homelessness outside Orlando.
- 36:35Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, it's because every well, but we all
- 36:38Speaker 3: know that. I mean, they Walt decided to buy all
- 36:41Speaker 3: those swamp land to make Disney World down there, and
- 36:44Speaker 3: that's what basically built up that area.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Yep mm hmm, yeah, well a lot. I don't worry, Cliff,
- 36:52Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth. I'll give you a week to
- 36:54Speaker 1: think about what they're planning to do out in Texas
- 36:57Speaker 1: with either Austen or Usual, because that'll be a top conversation.
- 37:01Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, I already I already know what I'm thinking
- 37:03Speaker 3: about that.
- 37:03Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure you already are, but I'm let you
- 37:05Speaker 1: be on this show, you know, Okay, good, no, no, no,
- 37:09Speaker 1: I thought of what I was intrigued. But I'll hold
- 37:12Speaker 1: my comments there as well. I mean, but I think
- 37:15Speaker 1: the Sacramento thing is just absolutely amazing the way you know,
- 37:20Speaker 1: I'm thinking of all because John Morant they don't want
- 37:24Speaker 1: him that disc to mean that blew my socks off.
- 37:27Speaker 1: It really, really really did.
- 37:29Speaker 4: But wait, Scott, he's twenty six years old. He's under
- 37:34Speaker 4: contract for two more seasons. He's gonna earn forty two
- 37:38Speaker 4: point two million dollars for twenty six twenty seven and
- 37:42Speaker 4: forty four point nine million for twenty seven to twenty eight.
- 37:47Speaker 4: He has been slowed down by injuries. As of late.
- 37:51Speaker 4: He has appeared in seventy nine games of a possible
- 37:56Speaker 4: two hundred and forty six over the past three years,
- 38:01Speaker 4: and he's getting paid forty five million dollars. Man, I'd like,
- 38:04Speaker 4: you know, to get paid even a million dollars and
- 38:07Speaker 4: only appear in eighty out of two hundred and forty
- 38:10Speaker 4: six games.
- 38:12Speaker 3: He doesn't. He doesn't have an ethics clause or you
- 38:15Speaker 3: know cause in his contract or anything.
- 38:19Speaker 1: Let me go to the chat room real quick. Hey,
- 38:21Speaker 1: Michael Kinsey show, I got some good advice for you.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Stay near your messenger. You and I are gonna have
- 38:25Speaker 1: to talk soon. I'm looking for an NBA guy. I'm
- 38:28Speaker 1: thinking about putting you on in the first hour, So
- 38:30Speaker 1: if you're listening, you're watching to that, I'll probably be
- 38:33Speaker 1: reaching out to you in the next day or two,
- 38:35Speaker 1: and I'm going to try to bring you on. It
- 38:36Speaker 1: could be coming on a suit as early as next week,
- 38:38Speaker 1: but I need you to play it straight and be
- 38:40Speaker 1: the NBA guy. Timing is right, So I'm glad you
- 38:43Speaker 1: popped in here on Facebook. I know you'll ask some
- 38:46Speaker 1: incredible commentary to that sport. You're really good with it.
- 38:49Speaker 1: So thanks for popping in supporting the show, a show
- 38:52Speaker 1: that you probably have an opportunity to get on. So
- 38:54Speaker 1: if I give you that opportunity, make the most of it.
- 38:56Speaker 1: Because I've been looking for an NBA guy. This guy
- 38:59Speaker 1: has a lot of contact as well. There will be
- 39:01Speaker 1: no market Bilson other night. We'll waiting for the New
- 39:03Speaker 1: York guys to come on in a little while. The candy,
- 39:06Speaker 1: any other things that stand out that you want to
- 39:07Speaker 1: talk about. I mean, here's the thing about John Moran.
- 39:11Speaker 1: You already said a very interesting stat seventy nine out
- 39:14Speaker 1: of what two hundred some odd games, so he could
- 39:17Speaker 1: bust it up. The guy damaged Goods. Okay, he is
- 39:20Speaker 1: damaged Goods and that's fine, But the reality of the
- 39:24Speaker 1: situation with this guy is this. Okay, here's a guy
- 39:28Speaker 1: who has the potential is so unlimited, and he got
- 39:33Speaker 1: a contract that's untradable is what he has. He really does,
- 39:37Speaker 1: and he busted up and he's had a ton. This guy,
- 39:40Speaker 1: to me, had I'll never put anybody in Michael Jordan,
- 39:44Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what I put him in. Lebron
- 39:46Speaker 1: James territory and the ability and Kevin Durant as all
- 39:49Speaker 1: he has to do to stay healthy, keep his head
- 39:51Speaker 1: out straight. This guy has a food named after him
- 39:54Speaker 1: called scrambled eggs, because that's what he is. This guy
- 39:58Speaker 1: is scrambled eggs. John Moran. Yes, so as far as I'm.
- 40:04Speaker 2: Morning, also he's also he's also he's also covered and
- 40:09Speaker 2: beevis and butt head. Let's be honest.
- 40:11Speaker 3: Wow, I know I'm shocked. You know that that that
- 40:13Speaker 3: reference there. Wow, I'm gonna tip.
- 40:15Speaker 2: I remember the show.
- 40:16Speaker 3: I remember, Yeah, I can. Yeah, that's that's that's right
- 40:20Speaker 3: up my eye. I was in college when that came out.
- 40:22Speaker 2: So I watched. I used to watch it, all right.
- 40:25Speaker 1: And would you would you make me today? Candy? You
- 40:27Speaker 1: made me an Ama right? Mm hmm good it's oatmeal,
- 40:30Speaker 1: little mile. Just you know, so everybody realized Candy is
- 40:32Speaker 1: a good job juggling between oatmeal, and I'll tell tell,
- 40:37Speaker 1: tell them what's good about that oatmeal that you go
- 40:39Speaker 1: ahead and serve for me? Didn't your friend fall and
- 40:40Speaker 1: go out there suggest the stuff there?
- 40:43Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's overnight oats and you make it the
- 40:46Speaker 4: night before, so it's really easy. All you do is
- 40:49Speaker 4: pour some milk in with it, and you can heat
- 40:51Speaker 4: it up if you want in the morning, or you
- 40:53Speaker 4: can have it cold.
- 40:55Speaker 2: It's up to you.
- 40:56Speaker 4: You can have it put more milk in it and
- 40:59Speaker 4: it's more drink, or you can have less milk and
- 41:02Speaker 4: then you can eat it more like oatmeals. So it's
- 41:05Speaker 4: oats overnight and that has all kinds of flavors, which
- 41:09Speaker 4: is kind of kind of nice. Scott likes someone like
- 41:14Speaker 4: the s'mores flavors. And they do have protein in them,
- 41:19Speaker 4: which is kind of which is nice too. But yeah,
- 41:22Speaker 4: they have let me see them on their website right now.
- 41:25Speaker 4: They have how many. I like the fact that they're
- 41:30Speaker 4: soy free, gluten free, non gmo, no artificial sweeteners, no preservatives.
- 41:37Speaker 4: There is protein in all of them.
- 41:39Speaker 2: They have weight, weve.
- 41:40Speaker 4: Protein, pea, protein, you name it, like, all kinds of
- 41:43Speaker 4: different but flate. As far as flavors, they have to
- 41:48Speaker 4: give you an idea. They have peach cobbler, cookies and creams,
- 41:55Speaker 4: cinnamon roll, hazelnut chocolate crepe, strawberries and cream, chocolate, cooky butter,
- 42:01Speaker 4: pecan ice cream, French toast, BlackBerry, peanut butter, chocolate chi
- 42:05Speaker 4: coconut cream pie, some moores, green apple, cinnamon, fruity cereal bread,
- 42:10Speaker 4: glazed blueberry donut, trash, late chase, pecan pie, homestyle waffles,
- 42:15Speaker 4: maple pancakes.
- 42:16Speaker 1: You're making me too hungry. Okay, I'm going back to
- 42:18Speaker 1: Key West.
- 42:19Speaker 3: Is this where we go down to Oakmeal? We've been
- 42:27Speaker 3: down at Oatmeal. I'm like, we're talking about sports and
- 42:29Speaker 3: we're talking about Hey, I like you too. It sounds good,
- 42:32Speaker 3: sounds great. Yeah, gotta keep going here.
- 42:35Speaker 1: I'm going back to Key West. You know what, We
- 42:37Speaker 1: did a video out there and a place that had
- 42:40Speaker 1: Bourbon Street but not there, And when you think of
- 42:42Speaker 1: Key West, you think of Bourbon Street, at least I do.
- 42:45Speaker 1: But they had a little a bar. They had like
- 42:48Speaker 1: New Orleans on it in Key West. That's pretty cool.
- 42:50Speaker 1: So I have to the busiest people watching places with
- 42:53Speaker 1: Key West and Bourbon Street so sometimes you can. I
- 42:58Speaker 1: don't even I never go in the bar because there
- 43:00Speaker 1: was so much to cover on Bourbon Street. The reality
- 43:03Speaker 1: of the situation. I mean, now we's got any Duval Street,
- 43:06Speaker 1: but it's still really good stuff. Candy. I mean, what
- 43:09Speaker 1: you know, I just took candy to what was at
- 43:12Speaker 1: Bourbon Street, I think it was in Orleans, and it
- 43:15Speaker 1: just gave me some flashback memories. It just really, really,
- 43:18Speaker 1: really what it did. It's just unbelievable. Any other things
- 43:23Speaker 1: that stand out about that he was trip that we did,
- 43:25Speaker 1: especially before we did the sunset.
- 43:28Speaker 4: Thing, I mean, I would say that was probably one
- 43:30Speaker 4: of the highlights would be the sunset cruise. You know,
- 43:34Speaker 4: just a relaxing two and a half hour boat crewise
- 43:39Speaker 4: during the sunset. And I was asking the we were
- 43:42Speaker 4: supposed to see dolphins. They say they see dolphins seventy
- 43:46Speaker 4: percent of the time. Unfortunately we did not. And then
- 43:49Speaker 4: I asked the captain. I said, because he does this
- 43:51Speaker 4: almost every day, doesn't it get old? Because he I mean,
- 43:57Speaker 4: you see the sunset every day and he's like, no,
- 44:00Speaker 4: because it's always different, never looks the same, it's never
- 44:03Speaker 4: suttying in the same place. We were talking to one
- 44:06Speaker 4: of the other guys and depending on the time of
- 44:08Speaker 4: the year, depends on where the sunset goes down, how
- 44:11Speaker 4: you know. So I just thought, but it was very relaxing,
- 44:17Speaker 4: that part of it. So I thought that was just
- 44:20Speaker 4: what the doctor had ordered. We needed just some a
- 44:23Speaker 4: little bit of time just to relax and not think
- 44:27Speaker 4: about everything else.
- 44:29Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well I'll tell you what we're going
- 44:32Speaker 1: to do.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Now.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Let's transition a little bit over to what took place
- 44:37Speaker 1: over the weekend and on sports Trap. What we did
- 44:40Speaker 1: is we talked on sports Rap about soccer surpassing baseball
- 44:46Speaker 1: as a number three sport. Candy, what are your thoughts
- 44:49Speaker 1: about soccer surpassing baseball? Because I'll telling you one thing.
- 44:53Speaker 1: To me, this sport has really really come a long way, I.
- 44:58Speaker 4: Think, especially with the world up that and soccer is
- 45:03Speaker 4: football in other countries is their first and primary sport.
- 45:07Speaker 4: It's the sport that they love. It's only here in
- 45:10Speaker 4: America that it's not the number one sport. It's more football.
- 45:16Speaker 4: Baseball is is international, but not to the same level.
- 45:21Speaker 4: NFL teams play in different countries. We don't see as
- 45:25Speaker 4: many Major League ghostball teams playing in international games and
- 45:31Speaker 4: stuff like that. Like you know, we see even even
- 45:35Speaker 4: hockey's done. They did before the season. Oh what was
- 45:39Speaker 4: it called the tournament that they do instead of instead
- 45:45Speaker 4: of the All Star Game they now do.
- 45:49Speaker 3: Right, that was a one time thing they did, and
- 45:53Speaker 3: I think they're going to do it again now.
- 45:56Speaker 4: Right, But I think, you know, World Cup soccer is
- 46:03Speaker 4: such a frenzy right now. It's got the most viewership.
- 46:08Speaker 4: You think of a lot of people coming over here
- 46:12Speaker 4: and living, especially down here in Florida. We see a
- 46:16Speaker 4: lot of transplants, so a lot of people down here
- 46:19Speaker 4: in Florida are not born in Florida, and sometimes they
- 46:21Speaker 4: come from the United States, and times they come from
- 46:24Speaker 4: different parts of the world, and you see them and
- 46:27Speaker 4: their excitement with soccer and their love for the game.
- 46:31Speaker 2: And if you go to a.
- 46:32Speaker 4: Soccer game, like Scott and I went in Portugal, we
- 46:34Speaker 4: went to a soccer game, the excitement of the fans
- 46:38Speaker 4: and how they like embody, the whole everybody does. You
- 46:44Speaker 4: don't see that kind of excitement in any of our
- 46:47Speaker 4: professional sports, not in anyone. I would say it almost
- 46:52Speaker 4: rivals a college football game, where you get the excitement
- 46:56Speaker 4: of all the fans and the students, and but going
- 47:02Speaker 4: to a soccer game is it is on a different level.
- 47:07Speaker 2: I mean, soccer is more popular globally because every country,
- 47:12Speaker 2: they've most of every other, every country you know around
- 47:16Speaker 2: the world values it, just like America values the NFL.
- 47:20Speaker 2: But it's you know, it's it's truly the world's game.
- 47:23Speaker 2: I mean the World Cup is showing that because the
- 47:25Speaker 2: World Cup isn't just about soccer matches. It is a
- 47:31Speaker 2: it's sports more in a cultural sort of way, kind
- 47:33Speaker 2: of compary similar to the Olympics, but it's you know,
- 47:37Speaker 2: it's an exposure of world cultures. That's what soccer does.
- 47:40Speaker 2: It brings world cultures together in ways that most other
- 47:44Speaker 2: sports can't, aside from maybe the Olympics clift.
- 47:49Speaker 3: Well as in comparison to baseball. Here it's where it's here.
- 47:54Speaker 3: The World Cup is here, and that makes a difference.
- 47:57Speaker 3: We're here, we're hosting it. If you go back thirty
- 47:59Speaker 3: year years ago when we last hosted it with like
- 48:02Speaker 3: Alexei Lawless and Kobe Jones and Tony Meola on that team,
- 48:06Speaker 3: there was a bit there was a big, you know,
- 48:08Speaker 3: uptick in the soccer Also, if you remember back then, Uh,
- 48:13Speaker 3: baseball went on a little Uh, I had had a
- 48:16Speaker 3: little nap there. They had a little workstopage right around
- 48:18Speaker 3: the same time, right, Yeah, so that probably helped a
- 48:21Speaker 3: little bit with that. And oh wait, next year, aren't
- 48:25Speaker 3: we gonna have a possible another Like baseball, there's a
- 48:29Speaker 3: chance they might not play next year. It's a little
- 48:32Speaker 3: cool coincidental. There a little strange there. Hey, I don't
- 48:37Speaker 3: have anything against soccer. I'm with soccer like people are
- 48:41Speaker 3: with hockey. Like I just said, I you know, I'll
- 48:44Speaker 3: watch the World Cup even if the you know yes
- 48:47Speaker 3: is an in it, I don't have the same passion
- 48:49Speaker 3: I will when I am I'm watching it this year,
- 48:52Speaker 3: I'll I usually either just put on the Spanish one
- 48:55Speaker 3: because they have such a better call for the goals,
- 48:58Speaker 3: or I'll watched the English and and just quickly go
- 49:01Speaker 3: see a goal. Come might flash to that so I
- 49:03Speaker 3: can hear the the gold call. It is very popular
- 49:07Speaker 3: and yeah, you're right, it is at a totally different
- 49:09Speaker 3: level outside this country. People like it here. I think
- 49:14Speaker 3: it's I think the whole thing is there's so many
- 49:16Speaker 3: different choices for different sports around here, and and maybe uh,
- 49:23Speaker 3: I just don't think I'm not saying that these other
- 49:26Speaker 3: other countries don't have it, but it's just so an
- 49:30Speaker 3: entrenched there for so long, you know, and I think
- 49:32Speaker 3: that has a lot to do. And it's so cultural.
- 49:34Speaker 3: And you're talking about the different towns and you know,
- 49:37Speaker 3: the colors and stuff like that, and yeah, we have
- 49:39Speaker 3: that there, but it's just it's so much more and
- 49:42Speaker 3: it's been for so much longer. I mean, you're talking
- 49:45Speaker 3: about Europe and these other places, and it's just so
- 49:48Speaker 3: much more ingrained in their in their culture. I don't
- 49:52Speaker 3: know if I don't know, if a little overall, yeah,
- 49:54Speaker 3: maybe this year, for a couple of years, Yeah, soccer
- 49:57Speaker 3: will rival at I think I think it'll even though
- 50:01Speaker 3: baseball has been on the down side a little bit,
- 50:05Speaker 3: I still don't think it'll surpass baseball overall. And it's
- 50:09Speaker 3: all said and done.
- 50:11Speaker 1: Well, I'll just say this about soccer. Eric Casts is smiling,
- 50:14Speaker 1: and I'll give you two reasons why. Chris and Robber
- 50:17Speaker 1: in the house. That's why this guy here to me,
- 50:22Speaker 1: you know, as far as I'm concerned, is waiting for
- 50:24Speaker 1: you guys. But let me get let me but you
- 50:26Speaker 1: guys get hit one or two more topics than you're
- 50:28Speaker 1: initially bargain for. But you guys are easy to handle
- 50:30Speaker 1: this stuff. Nothing that Chris had to deal with before.
- 50:32Speaker 1: This is a sledgehammer material. Bring him on. Yeah, But
- 50:36Speaker 1: first of all, soccer is easy because out number one,
- 50:38Speaker 1: all you had to do is buy a ball and
- 50:40Speaker 1: have a cleaf and they take the darn thing. You
- 50:42Speaker 1: just better be in good shape when you do it,
- 50:44Speaker 1: so that that's why it's cheaper than a lot of
- 50:45Speaker 1: sports as well. So if that said, we want to
- 50:48Speaker 1: welcome Chris obviously and Rob to the show. First of all,
- 50:52Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you guys in about the rebranding disaster
- 50:56Speaker 1: that's taking place in the case with two teams to
- 50:59Speaker 1: see everton Eskimos used to be are now the Edmonton
- 51:04Speaker 1: Elks you follow me, and obviously the Washington Commanders they
- 51:11Speaker 1: should have been the Redskins. I want to leave with
- 51:13Speaker 1: you guys, and I've waited on a couple of topics
- 51:16Speaker 1: for you guys to get in because I think you
- 51:18Speaker 1: need to get a pizza of this sashion. So what
- 51:20Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is I'm gonna start with you Chris. Okay,
- 51:22Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about that situation? Because I tell
- 51:24Speaker 1: you the Eskimos, I'm going to call them for the
- 51:27Speaker 1: whole show. Okay, have never recovered from that. I mean
- 51:29Speaker 1: I liked Eskimos. Think I think of Eskimos, I think
- 51:33Speaker 1: of Alaska and then now and all they did was
- 51:35Speaker 1: win Great Cup. Chris some thoughts. Yeah.
- 51:38Speaker 6: To be honest, I didn't know that they switched names,
- 51:40Speaker 6: but I guess it bothered the Eskimos that they were
- 51:44Speaker 6: named the Eskimos.
- 51:45Speaker 5: I guess I was insulting them. I don't know.
- 51:47Speaker 6: I really don't know the backstory with that, but if
- 51:50Speaker 6: it's anything like with Washington with the Redskins and then
- 51:53Speaker 6: becoming the Commanders, I guess it was insulting to those people.
- 51:57Speaker 5: So I guess that's why they wanted to change it.
- 52:01Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the front side, and you said,
- 52:03Speaker 1: you know, the backside front sise, merchandising, people, merchandising. That's
- 52:08Speaker 1: a lot of cabbage, as we call cabbage, and they
- 52:12Speaker 1: call it catch some playoffs cabbage. But they're biting a
- 52:17Speaker 1: bullet in terms of merchandising. Who how many people? And
- 52:20Speaker 1: they went great comfort. I mean all they did was win.
- 52:24Speaker 1: One was Hugh Campbell and Warren Moon and they were
- 52:27Speaker 1: iconic up there and Edmonton with the edge Wills, not
- 52:31Speaker 1: the lowly ELPs. Ropy.
- 52:34Speaker 7: Yeah, you know all this rebranding and everything. You know,
- 52:38Speaker 7: they including the Cleveland Indians to the Guardians, but they
- 52:43Speaker 7: don't trade. They don't change the braves and the Commanders.
- 52:47Speaker 7: They should have lefted the Redskins, because.
- 52:50Speaker 8: I don't really know if these groups are really the
- 52:53Speaker 8: ones who are really hurt by it, or if it's
- 52:56Speaker 8: just a politician stirring the pot and starting crap.
- 53:01Speaker 7: Okay, because it's it's it's ridiculous. Like I do you
- 53:05Speaker 7: know anybody who is happy with the Cleveland Guardians name.
- 53:10Speaker 1: I don't.
- 53:10Speaker 7: Well, I just think it's it's so stupid. It's no
- 53:14Speaker 7: one's insulting anybody. It's it's just ridiculous. It's rebranding.
- 53:20Speaker 3: Cliff Well, it's I've never been a fan of that.
- 53:25Speaker 3: I understand there's certain sensitivities, but like, I still Cleveland.
- 53:29Speaker 3: I can't even give my uh, I can't even have
- 53:33Speaker 3: myself say Cleveland Guardians. I just call them Cleveland and
- 53:37Speaker 3: it's just it annoys me to no end. All Right,
- 53:40Speaker 3: It's like it's like the Indian. Stop. You know, it's
- 53:43Speaker 3: it's like, this is I don't want people to be upset,
- 53:47Speaker 3: but come on, this is this is and people are
- 53:49Speaker 3: going to want to go after the Chicago Black Hooks.
- 53:52Speaker 3: I'm like, stop, you can't. I'm like they was specifically
- 53:55Speaker 3: done as a tribute to that man. They were very
- 53:59Speaker 3: specific about trying to be like respectful with their imaging
- 54:02Speaker 3: when they made that logo, and it's like and I
- 54:06Speaker 3: still see things, Oh they got to get rid. I'm like, no, yeah,
- 54:10Speaker 3: it's it's this is something that's always uh bothered me. Yeah,
- 54:16Speaker 3: it's I was. I don't not a big cfl then.
- 54:20Speaker 3: But when I heard they changed to the uh meant
- 54:23Speaker 3: from the Eskimos to eventually the Elks, I'm like, uh
- 54:27Speaker 3: you know they oh, well they have the E. Yay,
- 54:29Speaker 3: we have a double E. It's it's just it's it's
- 54:33Speaker 3: just silly. And and yeah, the merchandising, it's just not
- 54:36Speaker 3: gonna do it. I know people who are Washington fans,
- 54:40Speaker 3: and yeah, they're still annoyed by not calling them the
- 54:43Speaker 3: Redskins and they're calling them commanders. Now.
- 54:46Speaker 1: Eric has a wide asle smile. Let's see if it
- 54:48Speaker 1: comes out of them mouth of his.
- 54:52Speaker 2: Well. First off, thank you well. First off, when they
- 54:58Speaker 2: when they did it for both the Guardians and the Redskins,
- 55:00Speaker 2: I thought it was the Indians and the Redskins. I
- 55:02Speaker 2: thought it was the dumbest thing on earth. Actually, I've
- 55:04Speaker 2: got at the first twenty eight twenty nine years of me,
- 55:07Speaker 2: of me sitting here and running around bothering people are
- 55:11Speaker 2: if they were called the Indians and the Redskins, that's
- 55:13Speaker 2: what I know them as. That's what I grew up
- 55:15Speaker 2: with the mass. But I still call the I still
- 55:18Speaker 2: call the Guardians the tribe. Every now and then, I
- 55:20Speaker 2: still call the commanders the Redskins. It was done because people.
- 55:24Speaker 2: People do have developed such a soft skin that they
- 55:27Speaker 2: expect everything handed to them. In the classroom where they
- 55:31Speaker 2: where if they're getting yelled at, they start crying in
- 55:34Speaker 2: the corner. That's where it originated from. You could probably
- 55:37Speaker 2: blame gen Z for that too. But it's it's it's awful,
- 55:43Speaker 2: it's not it's the Redskins was historic. The Indians, I
- 55:47Speaker 2: mean Redskins. I can somewhat get it. But the Indians.
- 55:50Speaker 2: What's so offensive about a smiling Indian on a guy's uniform?
- 55:54Speaker 2: It is awful that you would get offended by that.
- 55:58Speaker 2: It's you don't get He's a smiling Indian. There's nothing
- 56:02Speaker 2: offensive about it. It's not like they're running around saying
- 56:05Speaker 2: slurs about it. But they go But they go ahead
- 56:08Speaker 2: and decide to cave to the pressure of the stupidity
- 56:12Speaker 2: of the American public. Gosh, it's awful. It's terrible. They're
- 56:16Speaker 2: not there to offend people, They're there to honor them.
- 56:20Speaker 2: I guess people, I guess we've we've grown up in
- 56:22Speaker 2: an eight where we've been handing out a little too
- 56:24Speaker 2: many lollipopster participatient trophies.
- 56:27Speaker 1: Okay, Candy, he can close this one out, knows I'm
- 56:30Speaker 1: stature gonna go ahead.
- 56:32Speaker 4: I'm not gonna give.
- 56:33Speaker 1: You too many.
- 56:33Speaker 4: I'm only gonna give you a couple. The financial impact
- 56:38Speaker 4: of the Edmonton going to the Elks cost him four
- 56:42Speaker 4: point five million dollars. The cost of rebranding the Redskins
- 56:47Speaker 4: to the Commanders fifteen to twenty million dollars. On a
- 56:52Speaker 4: side note, and this was where it becomes a little
- 56:56Speaker 4: more personal. I grew up I went to high school
- 57:00Speaker 4: Monomine Falls Indians. We were the Indians. I grew up
- 57:08Speaker 4: The street name that I grew up on was Pocahontas Drive.
- 57:12Speaker 4: I lived in Hiawatha Estates, Pocahontas Drive, and Monominy Falls, Wisconsin.
- 57:19Speaker 4: There are so many Indian names within Wisconsin that I'm
- 57:23Speaker 4: almost offended that we can't use the name Indians because
- 57:26Speaker 4: now they have switched it to the Phoenix. Because everybody
- 57:30Speaker 4: knows you can't be an Indian. Why not. I don't understand.
- 57:35Speaker 4: I honored the Indian name. I thought it was an
- 57:38Speaker 4: honor to be an Indian and use that as my mascot.
- 57:43Speaker 4: I was sad to see it switch and change unfortunately.
- 57:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 57:51Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't switch the name of the street
- 57:52Speaker 4: that I lived on. They didn't switch the name of
- 57:55Speaker 4: Monomine Falls. There are so many names in the state
- 57:58Speaker 4: of Wisconsin, a city that are Indian tribes or Indian names.
- 58:03Speaker 4: I mean the I lived in Hiawatha's we had Tepee Court,
- 58:08Speaker 4: Red Cloud Court, Miniola Drive, Pokahontas Drive, Hiawatha, Pawnee Act.
- 58:15Speaker 4: I mean, those are all names of the streets inside
- 58:18Speaker 4: uh the subdivision I lived in and grew up in.
- 58:21Speaker 4: I think it's it's just kind of sad, especially when
- 58:25Speaker 4: you have a history, as some of these teams did
- 58:29Speaker 4: under one name, the heck to Switch. It is a
- 58:32Speaker 4: little absurd.
- 58:34Speaker 1: Okay, let's go out there and talk about some of
- 58:36Speaker 1: MLB's most iconic broadcasters. I'm going to just go through
- 58:40Speaker 1: the list a little bit. No list would be complete
- 58:44Speaker 1: without Vin Stolley. And then you have Harry Carey, Mel Allen,
- 58:47Speaker 1: Jack Buck, Ernie Harwell, Bob Uker, John Miller, Dave Newhouse,
- 58:52Speaker 1: Bob Cassis, and Joe Buck. Okay, Chris, which one stands out?
- 58:55Speaker 1: I'm sure at least I got mel Allen, so we
- 58:57Speaker 1: did leave a New Yorker out here.
- 59:02Speaker 5: I don't know. There's there's so many that are that
- 59:04Speaker 5: are just great.
- 59:07Speaker 6: Man to me, they all stick out, you know, just
- 59:10Speaker 6: hearing their voices and obviously being a part of so
- 59:14Speaker 6: many games, so many great games, so many great moments.
- 59:18Speaker 6: I think I always go back to Vince Scully. He's
- 59:22Speaker 6: the one guy I always go back to all of
- 59:25Speaker 6: his calls. I think his his voice resonates the most
- 59:29Speaker 6: out of that list. Obviously the newer guys that we've heard,
- 59:34Speaker 6: but I always go back to Vin Scully. I think
- 59:37Speaker 6: everybody is measured by Vince Scully. It's Vince Scully and
- 59:40Speaker 6: then everybody else.
- 59:42Speaker 1: Well, I mean I go already Herwell, then again he's
- 59:44Speaker 1: my mentor, how I got to call it, gets heartier,
- 59:47Speaker 1: and you know what they both have in common as
- 59:48Speaker 1: a lot of them. Do they want to Fort Frick Awards.
- 59:50Speaker 1: We've ever been to the Hall of Fame. Check that
- 59:52Speaker 1: out Ford Frick Awards for multiple times. Yeah, well so great,
- 59:56Speaker 1: Soft Christ, Yeah, I mean Vince Scully is the gold
- 59:58Speaker 1: standard for everybody. Rob Gohad, Yeah, I agree.
- 1:00:01Speaker 7: With Chris with Vince Scully definitely. But growing up in
- 1:00:05Speaker 7: New York, the Mets and Yankees, we've always had great broadcasters.
- 1:00:10Speaker 7: The Mets had kind of Murphy and Lindsey Nelson in
- 1:00:13Speaker 7: the booth for so many years when I grew up,
- 1:00:16Speaker 7: those guys were great. And now you know, we have Keith,
- 1:00:20Speaker 7: we have Ronnie, and we have Gary and they're great too.
- 1:00:23Speaker 7: So we're used to and the Yankees always had Rizzuto, right,
- 1:00:27Speaker 7: So we are used to great broadcasters in New York baseball.
- 1:00:32Speaker 7: But yeah, Scully, I mean, you know, you can't beat
- 1:00:35Speaker 7: in Scully no way.
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: Derek Boy, Like when I boy, I was like growing up,
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: I was you know, I was. I was spoiled with
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: some of the great broadcasters that would be the sounds
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: of the sounds of the summertime in my childhood. But
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: I got, I mean, I gotta go with Scully, the
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: man broadcast until he was ninety five years old. He
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: goes back to the days of the Clinton Dodgers, and
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: he got and he saw the likes of Jack of
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson and Pee Wee Reeves all the all the
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: way to Clayton Kershaw. And I'll think about that for
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: a minute. That guy saw the Los Angeles Dodgers history
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: on day one of that franchise. You know, I don't
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: think you'll have a broadcaster who's connected to the franchise
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: in that way ever. Again, you know, Vin Scully was
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: one of a kind. I mean, he spoiled Tuesdays both
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: New York and California, now, you know. And he was
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: still going well into his nineties. So let's let's just
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: think about that for a minute. To sound that good
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: and I actually talk about actually talk about the history
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: of home plate and make it sound entertaining, you gotta
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: have a special talent to do that. You know.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: Amazingly enough, Dodgers train and vera Bee's are dead. I
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: tried so many times to get there when Vince still
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: he was there, and I always missed him. He came
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: in for one week and it was never the one
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: that was there, but I always saw my man Tomulus
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: or and then when a one time we go to
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: a Southern California sports broadcaster event out in LA it
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: was Nary doing something on the video, but not like
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: I didn't try to meet Finny. And I'll tell all
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: part of it. Scully's inside of me too, and I
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: listen to a lot of his things on YouTube and
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: he's just remarkable. All right, Cliff, what about you?
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: Well, all of them have their their thing that makes
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: them them, and they all and and yeah, yeah, I
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: agree with her else with Scully, But I think everybody
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: just like is whoever they're playing for, whoever they're announcing for,
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: they're perfect for that team. They're perfect for that team,
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: and they kind of like they tell a story to
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: because every city is different, every fan's a little different,
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: and I think each of those announcers are perfect for
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: who they're who they're describing the game and all these things,
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: and I just think that's and they all, yeah, like
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: I said, got the Ford Frick Award, And I just
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: I don't like to give who's the best, because you know,
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: they've all can contributed and they've all brought baseball to
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: where it should be, the celebration of the game, the
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: description of the game. They're all different. I don't like
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: to like give one better than the other because there
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: I just want to all give them, give them all
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: their flowers. You know, I don't want to have to
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: like give one person because they've they've all done their part.
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: I mean, Yuker is very different too. He was very
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: funny and he can wound up making an acting thing
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: out of it in Major League and you know, it's
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: it's that's that's I give them all their flowers. I
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: appreciate them all for what they do because they all
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: do things a little differently. But I think, like I said,
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: they fit the city, they fit the teams that they
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: worked for.
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: That's there, Okay, Katie, I'm gonna say this.
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: Some of the top top three that have only called
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: games for one team, Swally, Yucker and Buck thirty five
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: of the Hall of Fame's forty three for winners, call
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: game from more than one team. Makes a difference too
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: if you called for just one game. And I think
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: obviously for anybody that's gonna answer this question, Scott, it
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: depends on who you grew up with. Who did you
- 1:04:11Speaker 4: listen to, you know, who were you around, Like I mean,
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: I hate to say this is going to age some
- 1:04:16Speaker 4: of us, but you listen to who was in your town.
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: You listen because you didn't get all you didn't have streaming,
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: you didn't have internet, so you weren't listening to all
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: the other games unless they were on a national exposure,
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: national TV, or you got a special subscription to some
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: of these radio stations. I mean, I can't tell you
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: how many holidays, how many Easters we sat in the
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: backyard listening to Bob Uker called Brewer games. But that's
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: because that's where I lived, and so that's who you know.
- 1:04:48Speaker 4: Really rings true for me. But you can't argue Skully,
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: I mean, how he called game for us.
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: You know, team I will I will say though I
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: was spoiled growing up in the Chicago area because I
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: had I had two teams there because you know, at
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: the time at MLB, dot TV didn't come till much
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: until a little bit later. But I was spoiled man.
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: I had Len Casper on the north side, who could
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: call a heck of a game. And I also had
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: Hawk Harrelson. And actually, if you if I go back
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: to what I did when I was in college, though
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: you could hear some of my broadcasting is actually somewhat
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: patterned after Hawk Harrelson.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's go. Let's talk baseball, and now
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: we got to New York guys, and how you guys doing.
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: You're doing okay with some of the purp balls up
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: front at you. Of course, Chris will always appreciate them,
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: what after what he had to deal with.
- 1:05:40Speaker 5: I love you, Chris, any top, I'm good with any topic.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: Yeah. The best part about these two guys are on
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: the website. So if you go out there and check
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: them out on the website on the about us and
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: you'll get to you'll be able to get the bios
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: for Chris and Rob. All right, let's talk about the
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: notable Mets losing the off season, because you guys can
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: evaluate what they did versus where they're at now. Third basement,
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: Lashett had a three year contract. When that's gonna work out?
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: Right handed pitcher Freddy Farota by a trade with the Brewers.
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: I'll field the Lewis Robert Junior via trade with the
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: White Sox, second baseman Marcus Seamen by a trade with
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: the Rangers, right handed pitcher Devin Williams a three year deal. Well,
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: that to me is the old guys are written all
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: over and out of Yellowstone all the way. There never
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: been the Yellowstone before. How they have the guysers out
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: there because that's what you got Devin Williams for second
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: baseman George Fluncle, don't worry, Candy, I'll get you there
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: one day, two year contract. Right handed pitcher Luke Weaver,
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: two year deal, right handed pitcher Obias myers yat trade
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: with the Brewers. Okay, Chris, what are your thoughts about this?
- 1:06:47Speaker 5: Grow h not good?
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: Right?
- 1:06:50Speaker 6: Almost Listen me and Rob question these moves in the
- 1:06:55Speaker 6: off season, before the season started, we would say it
- 1:06:58Speaker 6: doesn't make sense, right, you know, you let you let
- 1:07:02Speaker 6: Alonso walk out the door, who plays every day, right,
- 1:07:07Speaker 6: the leader, he's a leader in the clubhouse, all of that,
- 1:07:11Speaker 6: and on top of that great offensive production, right, thirty
- 1:07:14Speaker 6: five forty homers a season, and then you bring in
- 1:07:17Speaker 6: a guy to replace him or Hey Polanco who Number
- 1:07:21Speaker 6: one has an injury history. Number two never played first
- 1:07:23Speaker 6: base in his life, just one game. And that's who
- 1:07:27Speaker 6: you replace Pete Alonso with. Who's you know, lose a
- 1:07:31Speaker 6: franchise icon lately, you know, for for this franchise, the
- 1:07:35Speaker 6: most popular player on the team. I mean, it just
- 1:07:38Speaker 6: it made no sense, and it just it went downhill
- 1:07:42Speaker 6: from there. The Nimo Simeon trade made no sense. Right,
- 1:07:45Speaker 6: He's saving a couple of years at the back end
- 1:07:47Speaker 6: of the deal, I get it, but the money was
- 1:07:50Speaker 6: was basically a wash, so that that didn't make any sense.
- 1:07:54Speaker 6: Devin Williams and Weaver has kind of worked out. I mean,
- 1:07:57Speaker 6: those guys have pitched well, but other than that, nothing
- 1:08:00Speaker 6: has worked out well for this team. So Stearns is
- 1:08:05Speaker 6: not is showing he's not a good GM for a
- 1:08:08Speaker 6: big market team. He did a great job with the Brewers,
- 1:08:10Speaker 6: but you know what, since he left, the Brewers are
- 1:08:13Speaker 6: doing pretty good without him. So maybe it wasn't old
- 1:08:16Speaker 6: David Stearns in Milwaukee, right, Maybe we got to give
- 1:08:19Speaker 6: more people credit over there in Milwaukee because they're doing
- 1:08:21Speaker 6: pretty good.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: No, that's an excellent Yeah, that's an excellent point because
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: he was really Chris he was heavily coveted to go
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: to New York based on his body of work in Milwaukee.
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: But sometimes you got more cash means you can make
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: more mistakes. And that pretty much valets that you just said.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: Great points, Chris, go ahead.
- 1:08:37Speaker 7: Ron Yeah, I think with the trade deadline, Cohen should
- 1:08:43Speaker 7: get rid of Stearns. But anyway, Parolta, what happened?
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: You know what?
- 1:08:48Speaker 7: Trade deadline? Get rid of him. I'm gonna make this easy,
- 1:08:50Speaker 7: bo Chet, he's gonna opt out anyway. He hasn't done much.
- 1:08:54Speaker 7: Trade deadline, get rid of him. Polanco, are you kidding me?
- 1:08:58Speaker 7: Polonco one game at first, one inning of first base,
- 1:09:01Speaker 7: always injured. You're not gonna be able to get rid
- 1:09:04Speaker 7: of him, but they should get rid of him, Robert,
- 1:09:06Speaker 7: another one in center field, what a waste? Another injury,
- 1:09:11Speaker 7: but you're not gonna be able to get rid of him,
- 1:09:13Speaker 7: Simeon over Nemo, what are you talking about? Defense a break?
- 1:09:20Speaker 7: That's an excuse. He just wanted to have his own guys.
- 1:09:25Speaker 7: He wanted to make his own thumbprint on the team.
- 1:09:28Speaker 7: He screwed up, all right. The Alonso, I think you
- 1:09:32Speaker 7: have another question about Alonzo. You're gonna get to So
- 1:09:34Speaker 7: I'm not even gonna start with Alonso, but Weaver and
- 1:09:40Speaker 7: even Williams, they were a little shaky, but now, especially Weaver,
- 1:09:45Speaker 7: Weaver is pitching really well. Now Williams not too bad.
- 1:09:49Speaker 7: So those two guys are right. Everyone else just get
- 1:09:53Speaker 7: rid of him at the trade deadline. I've had enough.
- 1:09:55Speaker 7: It's June. The season's over. Go ahead, Cats, laugh.
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: Well. First off. First off, when I knew, when I
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: knew you were coming in, Rob, I knew I couldn't
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: have been more excited after Tonight's because I knew, I
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: knew you would have. I knew you would have to
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: you would have to face me and and see me
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: and see me weep and smiling, smiling your desire. But
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: I will say though, that the meth we're in on
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger. Then they decided to pivot to Luis Robert,
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: who is very injured, who's very injury prone in Chicago. Yes,
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: he has an All Star Game of appearance, and he
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: does have have a nice flat swing though, but he
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: did have injury problems in Chicago. Plus when things aren't
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: going his way, he has it. He has a way
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: of just checking out. That's what That's just part of
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Louis Roberts game. He checks, he checks out, and then
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: you know and he and he gives you nothing in
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: your lineup. Look where has actually worked out well for him?
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: I was I was a little disappointed the Yankees didn't
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: resign him because he's always been a he was always
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: a great reliever for them. Maybe not then effects of
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: last year, but still a solid guy and a guy
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: to have in your bullpen who can also close games
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: every now and then. Devin Williams, well, I told Mets
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: fans this that you're going to go through what I had,
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: what what Chris and I had to go through last year,
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: just the agonizing, uncomfortable safe situations, giving me flashbacks through
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: second to the latter half of role as Chapman and
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: the second half of the season with Clay Holmes. You know,
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: you know, and WELLA we are looking at we are
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: looking at that right now. But you know, Jure Blanco,
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: he's always been an up and down guy. They should
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: have kept Petel so that guy's really there, should have
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: been a met for life. He's their all time home
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: run leader. He's a fan favorite, so he gives it
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: even when the team struggle, and he gives that team
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: at least something to watch, something to watch, consummate professional almost,
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: you know, and basically you could probably make the argument
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: that he is he's a bright light in a He's
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: been a bright light for the Mets in a very
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: in a very dark tunnel. But you know, that's that's
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: one thing Freddy Peralta where the Mets went It wasn't
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: a bad trade at the time. Where the Mets went
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: wrong though, is they kind of underestimate just how much
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: they can really get out of Paralta though, because you
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: always have to have a bullpen behind him. Because Freddy
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: Peralto has always been a five and die guy. That
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: was my biggest fans loved them in Milwaukee, but I
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: always had problems with him because he could never go
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: deep in the ball game. You had to have that
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: strong bullpen behind him, and the Mets did not so
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: so so when Freddy couldn't go deep though, they were
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: they they were burning half their pen when they were
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: expecting him to be their numeral uno at the top
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: of the rotation. That was there. That was there the
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: other issue there. But oh in although I'm really starting
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: to believe though that Matt Arnold was the man pulling
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: the strings behind the scene. Yes, he was almost like Oz.
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: He was almost like the man behind the curtain and
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: the Wizard of Oz. But he but he was the
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: one maker putting his influence and stamp on that team. Yes,
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: Terren's got the credit though, but man, he he, he
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: certainly had his up. He certainly had his man giving
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: him all that advice. They all do, yes, and and
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: it's clearly come to let with Matt Arnold being Executive
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: of the Year back to back years.
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to a p lons of reference in
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: a second. But you guys have done a great job
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: setting it up. Go ahead, Cliff.
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: This has been a nightmare. This has been an home
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: and I knew it was gonna happen. I knew it
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: was gonna happen. They've been talking about Louis Robert for
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: like the last few years. I'm like, no, no, I
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: don't want them. And what happens, Oh, Carson banach aj ewing,
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: they seem to be doing pretty good. Oh, there's a
- 1:13:26Speaker 3: concept actually use the players you you draft and try
- 1:13:30Speaker 3: to develop in the minor leagues. I know what a concept.
- 1:13:32Speaker 3: Isn't that the way the Mets normally win. You know,
- 1:13:35Speaker 3: when they they have, they throw a couple other guys
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: in there that need to help, but the real core
- 1:13:40Speaker 3: of their team, of the guys they're able to, you know,
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: be able to develop. No, no, no, we're gonna bring this
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: guy in bust of course, Polanco don't. Oh my god,
- 1:13:48Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about a lot.
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: I can't.
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: I yelled to the It just pissed me off. No ways,
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: a Sunday, you're getting rid of this guy. This guy's
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: David right, he's Daven Right at first base. Okay, no,
- 1:14:00Speaker 3: not feeling one, but you know what I'm saying, he's
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: that guy. You don't let him go. Okay, you don't
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: let Alonzo go. He is a Met and now he's
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: in Baltimore, and oh what what's he doing? He's doing
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: Pete Alonzo things. His average isn't that great, but his
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: power numbers are fine. He's just I'm sure he's playing
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: a solid first base. No no, we couldn't use that now, No, no, no,
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: we can't do that. Because I'm David Stearns and we're
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: the Mets. We can't have anything good. But Devin Williams,
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: Luke Weaver, they're okay, but it doesn't really matter. When
- 1:14:29Speaker 3: they they originally got them, I think they still were
- 1:14:31Speaker 3: thinking they're gonna keep Edwin Diaz. Now, yeah, I know
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: Edward Diaz has all these issues and problems. Maybe it's
- 1:14:37Speaker 3: better he's gone now after everything we're hearing. But at
- 1:14:42Speaker 3: the at the time, you know, I guess they're fine,
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: but he's not going. They're not getting any Devin Willons
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: is not getting many safe because not winning get when
- 1:14:51Speaker 3: you give up ten runs. Everyone's getting all these runs
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: and they don't have the thief situations. What's the point,
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: all right? And so you know, it's it's just been
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: a nightmare, and hey, we gotta clean how Stern's gone
- 1:15:02Speaker 3: and those are gone see me and bobushit okay, Oh
- 1:15:07Speaker 3: we got Bubu shit and oh I'm not gonna come
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: back now, I'm gonna pop down. Get rid of them,
- 1:15:12Speaker 3: Just get rid of just get rid of them, get
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: rid of those guys. It's it's it's just astounding to
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: me how they do this all the time. If they've
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: done this in the past and they're doing it again.
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: It's just different players. You get old enough where you
- 1:15:25Speaker 3: see I've seen this before, you know, like Marcus SimMan
- 1:15:28Speaker 3: is close by air guy. Okay, that's what you think.
- 1:15:30Speaker 3: I'm like, it's it's it's so felt frustrating to see
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: history repeat itself over and over and over again with
- 1:15:37Speaker 3: this team. Just different play, just different people.
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: You know what. I've never seen like this in my
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: entire life.
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: I think they broke. I think they broke Scott.
- 1:15:46Speaker 3: I'm not broken. I'm just I'm just expected rob whole world.
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: List.
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: I mean, Chris and Robert getting to know you a little.
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: I've never seeing you break like this. Canton can't break you,
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: but they did.
- 1:16:05Speaker 5: They cracked up broken.
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: I'm just expressing this broken.
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: Go ahead, they cracked the cliff cold. We just watch it.
- 1:16:15Speaker 9: I don't say anything because I watch you put on
- 1:16:17Speaker 9: a show. You're a college professor, Thompson say, you know,
- 1:16:20Speaker 9: say turning into a dark good broadcaster, and the Mets
- 1:16:24Speaker 9: broke the cliff code. It's okay.
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: I got more depressing so far.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: I will say. I do want to add though, that
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: after Tonight's horror movie, Jeff Passing completely discarded the Mets
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: by quote tweeting Jesse Rodgers after the Mets had five
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: errors and eventually six, saying this, whole season is an error.
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: Okay, Candy, did you enjoy the Cliff show? This guy
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: getting better? And now he's are you sweating Cliff after that.
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: That, I'm just sweating because it's it's the summer, you
- 1:16:58Speaker 3: know what.
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: You're sweating because you're really getting into this broadcasting stuff.
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: I love this guy. All I did was meet him
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: on Faithbook and all we did with the Fate about
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: expansion with hockey and brought him on. Aye, let's see
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: what happened. And it turned out to be pretty dark.
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: Done behind the TV for sixteen years, I mean, not
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: have been on camera, but I still know it.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: I can't.
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: The grass is not always greener someplace else, even though
- 1:17:26Speaker 4: the grass is green there and it's very green for
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: the nuts, I mean, they spend a lot of money.
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: Doesn't mean you're gonna have the same results on the field.
- 1:17:34Speaker 4: Depends on your your attitude, the attitude of the clubhouse,
- 1:17:39Speaker 4: how well you're playing together as a team, how well
- 1:17:42Speaker 4: you gel with the other players, you're playing with, the managers,
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: the coaches, a lot of the One thing I will
- 1:17:51Speaker 4: say is when you start getting a payroll as big
- 1:17:54Speaker 4: as like the Mets, do you have a lot of
- 1:17:57Speaker 4: different a lot of different characters on the team, let's
- 1:18:03Speaker 4: put it to you that way, and not always do
- 1:18:05Speaker 4: they want to be managed the same way, And so
- 1:18:08Speaker 4: it depends on whether they're willing to listen, whether they're
- 1:18:12Speaker 4: willing to be coach the same. You know, sometimes these
- 1:18:18Speaker 4: coaches think they need to change, like Freddy Peralta or somebody,
- 1:18:22Speaker 4: they need to change how he's pitching, and then it
- 1:18:25Speaker 4: doesn't work out, you know, so too bad, so sad.
- 1:18:31Speaker 4: But grass is not always greener.
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: Something you're not even feeling. Started just tarting, not to
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: at out of there, milwalking way, don't. Let's see how
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: you've got your New Yorkers feel about the fact that
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: New York Jet became the first team in NFL history
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: to go an entire regular season without an interception. Hello,
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: Eric Glenn, the defensive coach, I've never seen that, and
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: a lot of people and they went in the record
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: books for all their wrong reasons. Chris, we're here, talks
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: about it. How can this happen? Chris, tell me it's good.
- 1:19:06Speaker 5: Say that again.
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, you want me to say it again?
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: Or did you hear it?
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: No?
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just kidding with you.
- 1:19:14Speaker 5: Yeah, it's okay.
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: New York Jeff became the first team in NFL history
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: to go an entire regular see interception Aaron.
- 1:19:22Speaker 6: Really really yeah that was That's an embarrassing season. And listen,
- 1:19:28Speaker 6: and winning the turnover war is is important in the NFL, right,
- 1:19:33Speaker 6: It's like one of the most important things for a
- 1:19:35Speaker 6: team to do, and when you don't cause any any
- 1:19:38Speaker 6: of them, you have like zero shot of winning. And
- 1:19:41Speaker 6: that's why they were the second worst team in the
- 1:19:44Speaker 6: league last year. But but yeah, that's it's it's amazing
- 1:19:49Speaker 6: to think that a team could go a whole season
- 1:19:51Speaker 6: without one, just one.
- 1:19:54Speaker 5: They had none. It's just amazing.
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: And put one.
- 1:19:59Speaker 5: Yeah, they but it's almost impossible that a.
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: Finger up and say one. That's all talk, Thank you, Chris.
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: It's hard to do.
- 1:20:11Speaker 6: And I think it's safe to say that it won't
- 1:20:14Speaker 6: happen again. I'll say that it's not gonna happen again.
- 1:20:18Speaker 6: This is a totally it's a totally different roster and
- 1:20:21Speaker 6: it's a much better roster than even when they started
- 1:20:23Speaker 6: last year, even before the trade. So I don't think
- 1:20:27Speaker 6: we're going to see that happen again. I think it's
- 1:20:28Speaker 6: impossible for it to happen again. But they should be
- 1:20:32Speaker 6: better this year. How much better we'll see. But but yeah,
- 1:20:36Speaker 6: they can't.
- 1:20:37Speaker 5: That can't happen again.
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: Yeah, he see, it'll be hotter than temperatures in Arizona
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: when they hit one hundred and twenty degrees although I
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: did live in it or no, but I don't where
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, you'll get fried again. If you can't at
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: least get one interception. I'll put it up one. There
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: you go, Chris, thank you, buddy. I appreciate it. Okay,
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: go ahead, done from this is so laughable.
- 1:21:00Speaker 7: Yeah, it was unbelievable. And then what happens the last
- 1:21:05Speaker 7: game of the season. They played the Bills, and the
- 1:21:07Speaker 7: Bills just have the backup quarterback, you know, because they're
- 1:21:10Speaker 7: they're they're you know, worried about the playoffs. And they
- 1:21:13Speaker 7: can't even get one from the back of quarterback. So
- 1:21:18Speaker 7: it's Chris says, it could never happen again. And and
- 1:21:21Speaker 7: and I don't think it's gonna happen. He's He's right,
- 1:21:24Speaker 7: it's it's a different team. But it happened. And how
- 1:21:28Speaker 7: did that happen? I mean, not one here, here's the
- 1:21:32Speaker 7: one you wanted up here's a zero.
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: He ra not afraid to do this stuff right. We're
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: not asking for any bad body language. One zero. You
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: know this stuff like number we're not getting nailed by
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: the NCC.
- 1:21:47Speaker 7: It's ridiculous.
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: How can that happen? Eron a way to make it
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: all right? Go ahead?
- 1:21:53Speaker 7: Eric?
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not sure whether to be like impressed
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: or to say that only that could happen to the
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: New York Jets. They played some pretty reckless quarterbacks last year.
- 1:22:06Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen gets really careless with the ball,
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: and you didn't record one it could against backup quarterbacks,
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: not one single single football in defensive backs hands going
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: the other way? How just how? I mean, this is
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: just something that would happen to the Jets, especially even
- 1:22:27Speaker 2: more appalling when you're when you're head coach is a
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: former defensive back and All Pro defensive back at that
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: in the NFL. It was a pretty good defensive coordinator
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: with the Detroit Lions. How does that happen? They somehow
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: would only the Jets would somehow accomplish that feat.
- 1:22:44Speaker 3: It's it's it's the Jets. We all know the answer.
- 1:22:51Speaker 3: It's the Jets. No, it's not gonna happen again. They're
- 1:22:55Speaker 3: gonna I think they can get two or three, maybe
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: maybe four or five next year. I stare a dream
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: on that one. But yeah, it's not gonna happen again.
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: It's a fluke. And yeah, the fact that Aaron Glenn
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: I remember, I remember when Aaron Glenn was was a
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: quarterback for the for the Jets back in the day.
- 1:23:12Speaker 3: I remember that he was. He was a pretty solid player.
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: And but yeah, that to make it work, I'm surprised
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: he didn't get fired for that, for that simple stat
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: on that. Yeah, I know contracts and all that, but
- 1:23:23Speaker 3: they seem to just like throw guys coaches away anyway.
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: You know, they don't have that much, uh patience with him.
- 1:23:31Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm I'm shocked, you know, not one, not one.
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: It's it's just another chapter for the Jets. And I
- 1:23:41Speaker 3: don't know, I just don't think it's gonna be a
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: great It's it's gonna be better year this year. I
- 1:23:46Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna be a great year. But but
- 1:23:49Speaker 3: I do think you can look forward to a handful
- 1:23:51Speaker 3: more this year. We'll say over under four. How about four?
- 1:23:57Speaker 3: Is that too much? I'm gonna say, I'm gonna said
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: the way over under it floor this year.
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: Kay, Let's get some of Joe's comments up. He's got
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: some really good ones up there. I want to get
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: the crewis to talk about him. So he talks about
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: the Jets, aren't they Hey, guys, there's long wait, So
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: talking jet let the ropes and grated. Yeah, that's what
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: it was. At this point. They need probably that it
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: was good and what was I what was the other one?
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: I like this guy, He's unbelievable. Your family. Anyways, Now,
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: what do you think of the World Cup? To watch?
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: I'll be watching it probably this weekend. Actually not the worst,
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: but there you go. It was bad argument.
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: I went to a game.
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: Real memories. Okay, great stuff, Shoe. We'll keep them coming
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: for you, all right, Candy and more to get to.
- 1:24:39Speaker 4: Since the NFL began recording interception in nineteen thirty three,
- 1:24:46Speaker 4: no team had ever gone an entire campaign without at
- 1:24:50Speaker 4: least one pick. Opposing quarterbacks combined to throw five hundred
- 1:24:55Speaker 4: and fifteen passes against the defense, resulting in thirty six
- 1:24:59Speaker 4: to and zero interceptions. The previous record the fewest interceptions
- 1:25:06Speaker 4: in a season previously belonged to the twenty eighteen San
- 1:25:10Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers who recorded just two player milestones.
- 1:25:16Speaker 4: Not a single player out of the seventy different defensive
- 1:25:19Speaker 4: backs the Jets utilized in twenty twenty five managed to
- 1:25:22Speaker 4: grab a pick. Across the entire league. Over eighty other
- 1:25:27Speaker 4: players recorded at least one interception during the same timeframe.
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: Okay, let's continue talk more baseball. Have a lot to
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: get to it. Okay, baseball history. September twenty second, two
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: thousand and four, round Minius picked up sixes and Seattle's
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: win for and I'll tell you one they Chris gets
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: six hits in the game as a pretty good accomplishment.
- 1:25:51Speaker 6: I agree, that's something that you don't see often. And
- 1:25:55Speaker 6: Abonda has had a nice career, right, I mean, bounced
- 1:25:58Speaker 6: around a little bit towards the end.
- 1:26:00Speaker 5: Ended up with the Yankees.
- 1:26:01Speaker 6: He had a couple of big clutch home runs for
- 1:26:03Speaker 6: them in the playoffs.
- 1:26:06Speaker 5: But yeah, he was a nice little player.
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:26:09Speaker 6: Has had some nice years with Seattle. Really good ballplayer
- 1:26:13Speaker 6: and has that on his resume as well.
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: Rob, we could do we can do a little bit
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: of rapid fire with some of these baseball go ahead.
- 1:26:21Speaker 7: Yeah, he went six for six. He also had he
- 1:26:23Speaker 7: had five RBIs in that game, and he tied an
- 1:26:25Speaker 7: American League record. I mean, anytime you go six for six, hey,
- 1:26:30Speaker 7: that's great, Eric.
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: I mean, Dion Sanders said there's nothing harder than hitting
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: the baseball, and and Raoul obanya Is for one night
- 1:26:40Speaker 2: apparently made it look easy by going by going six
- 1:26:43Speaker 2: for six. The guy had a just a had a
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: very good career, not a Hall of Famer, but a
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: very good but a very good career. And in fact,
- 1:26:50Speaker 2: he spent a was spent a spent the season with
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: the Yankees and had a very memorable postseason run in
- 1:26:55Speaker 2: twenty twelve when he when he put the team on
- 1:26:58Speaker 2: his back and slapped around the Baltimore Orioles all the
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: way to that season's alc. Yes, but you know, six
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: for six, I think everybody would beg to beg for that,
- 1:27:07Speaker 2: just to have one of those one night.
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: Cliff, that's baseball video game numbers. It's like it doesn't
- 1:27:14Speaker 3: really happen all that often. Six for six, man, it
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: was like early on in his career with the Kansas
- 1:27:20Speaker 3: City I believe at the time. Yeah, and he really
- 1:27:24Speaker 3: made his started off with the name with that started off, Hey,
- 1:27:28Speaker 3: who's this a Banyas guy? And then he went to
- 1:27:31Speaker 3: other teams. Hey, getting six hits in the game is
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: tough getting that. I mean that, man, it must have
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: been one heck of a game because he had six
- 1:27:39Speaker 3: at bats. All right, he gets six at bats, you're
- 1:27:42Speaker 3: the probably chances are they probably beat up whoever they were,
- 1:27:45Speaker 3: whoever they played that night. You know. So robal Lebani
- 1:27:49Speaker 3: is not really surprised that he did that, and all
- 1:27:51Speaker 3: those rbs and yeah, it's it's yeah. Bonus was a good,
- 1:27:55Speaker 3: solid player and good for him. It was that show
- 1:27:59Speaker 3: that that really kind of like set him and say hey,
- 1:28:01Speaker 3: I'm here, and he was there for a while.
- 1:28:04Speaker 4: Candy, He's one of one hundred and nineteen players that
- 1:28:10Speaker 4: have had six h performances over the course of MLB.
- 1:28:15Speaker 4: There are only two players that have actually had seven
- 1:28:19Speaker 4: hit games. There is five players that have done the
- 1:28:22Speaker 4: six hit feet twice and I'm just gonna name a
- 1:28:26Speaker 4: couple of them. Kirby Pucket, eight, Turozuzuki, and Ty Cobb
- 1:28:31Speaker 4: are some of those that have done that. So I
- 1:28:33Speaker 4: won't go into more. I'll leave it at that good because.
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: The more you give me, the more handshags. You have
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: to go ahead and put up later. And you're already
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: close to ninety already, so don't worry about it, all right,
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: So let's continue on Alfonso Soriana. Siriano on September twenty
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: second years ago, hits his thirteen fleet off home run
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: of the season, setting a new record. You talk about
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: another Orianno, was it Chris? Oh? Yeah?
- 1:29:01Speaker 6: And you know what, he would have hit one of
- 1:29:03Speaker 6: the more famous Yankee postseason home runs if Mariano didn't
- 1:29:11Speaker 6: not close out the two thousand and one World Series
- 1:29:14Speaker 6: in Game seven when he hit the home run off
- 1:29:17Speaker 6: of Randy Johnson or was it chilling in that Game seven?
- 1:29:21Speaker 5: But he had a really good career.
- 1:29:23Speaker 6: I mean you talk about, you know, seven time All Star,
- 1:29:26Speaker 6: four time Silver Slugger, All Star MVP. This guy finished
- 1:29:30Speaker 6: with four hundred and twelve home runs in his career,
- 1:29:34Speaker 6: stolen bases almost three hundred in his career. He had
- 1:29:37Speaker 6: a really really good, really good career. If he was
- 1:29:41Speaker 6: just a second baseman instead of you know, playing the
- 1:29:44Speaker 6: outfield for a lot too. You know, you're probably talking
- 1:29:47Speaker 6: about a Hall of Famer here, but unfortunately he wasn't
- 1:29:50Speaker 6: the best fielder. But man, he could, he could hit
- 1:29:54Speaker 6: really good ballplayer. Yeah, and like I said, he would
- 1:29:59Speaker 6: have had he would have hit one of the most
- 1:30:01Speaker 6: famous postseason home runs in Yankees' history if the two
- 1:30:05Speaker 6: thousand and one World Series didn't finish differently.
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: By the way, for whatever it's worth take to say
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: this to you, I was living in Arizona and I
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: was a Diamondbacks guy. Sorry, but you know what it is.
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: But you know, hey, hey, listen, that was an unbelievable
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: series doing a very very challenging time. For sure, it
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: was unbelievable, you know what I mean. And I have
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: the utmost loyalty of the Yankees too, because I actually
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: grew up in the Yankees organization as a writer for
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: the Fort Law Daily Yankees and learned a lot of
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: what I've learned. So I appreciate my Yankee background and
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: all the friends I made in that organization. So I
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: love the Yankees deep problem side, okay, Rob.
- 1:30:43Speaker 7: Yeah, thirteen leadoff home runs, I mean great. Of course,
- 1:30:47Speaker 7: of course I hated those Yankee teams, especially the two
- 1:30:51Speaker 7: thousand team, but that is amazing. He broke Brady Anderson's
- 1:30:57Speaker 7: record when he did that, and you know, great, I
- 1:31:02Speaker 7: agree with Chris he probably would have been in the
- 1:31:04Speaker 7: Hall of Fame, but he couldn't feeld too good, so
- 1:31:09Speaker 7: you know, but he was a great hitter, no doubt.
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: I like the way your voice when it had lower
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: he couldn't feel too Yeah, and you know I did
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: a many years ago. It was communication. Now took I'm
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: one JFK baby to another.
- 1:31:31Speaker 2: Okay, well, I remember I remember Storiano. He was He
- 1:31:38Speaker 2: was a terrific act. He actually came back, came back
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: and came back again towards the end of his career.
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: I know, I know he had a very you know,
- 1:31:45Speaker 2: he had a very He had a very, very very
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: good career. Actually was the big Well he would have
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: had that famous home run had had Mariano not blown
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: it there in one. But he was also he was
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: also part of the deal that brought Alex Rodriguez back
- 1:31:59Speaker 2: to back to the Yankees after Aaron Boone decided to
- 1:32:03Speaker 2: decided to go play basketball. But you know, I think
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: part of what works against him too with him is
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: is the era he played in because he also you know,
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: during his time, he had Derek Jeter out there. Al
- 1:32:15Speaker 2: Wools was there at the time. He cheer as Zuki
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: was there at the time, and a bunch of other
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: great players too, which kind of unfortunately overshadowed him. So
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: it really depends sometimes with being in a Hall of Famer.
- 1:32:24Speaker 2: It depends on the era you played in, because the
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: Hall of Fame to me is the best of your era.
- 1:32:28Speaker 2: And you know, Alfonso Soriano maybe in another era would
- 1:32:31Speaker 2: have been a Hall of Famer, but in the era
- 1:32:33Speaker 2: he played, and he also played with great players too,
- 1:32:35Speaker 2: which I think part which also is working against Bernie Williams.
- 1:32:38Speaker 2: But you know, a great career over a great career overall,
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: thirteen leadoff home runs is no joke, because you know,
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: you're the first man in the fox getting getting the
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: feel of whoever's pitching that night. Imagine imagine being the
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: guy against being the first step against the guy like
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: Randy Johnson at that point in time. But you know,
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: he you know, I just think that, you know, great
- 1:32:59Speaker 2: career overall. Just unfortunately though it's working against him though
- 1:33:02Speaker 2: is he also played with his fielding doesn't help him.
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: And he also played with great players who were even
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: better than him during that time.
- 1:33:10Speaker 3: Okay, Cliff Striano, Oh my gosh, he was. He was
- 1:33:13Speaker 3: like such a great hitter. It's a shame he couldn't,
- 1:33:16Speaker 3: like to figure out second base. I'm like, it's and
- 1:33:20Speaker 3: no position in baseball is easy. I'm not going to
- 1:33:23Speaker 3: say that you get to that level. No pocision is easy.
- 1:33:26Speaker 3: But he was hoping that he could have probably at
- 1:33:29Speaker 3: least played well enough. I guess he couldn't, but yeah,
- 1:33:33Speaker 3: he was. And the fact that he's he has the
- 1:33:36Speaker 3: record for leadoffs and there's this other guy you might
- 1:33:38Speaker 3: have remembered him, Ricky Henderson. It's like any shock, you know,
- 1:33:44Speaker 3: it's like he doesn't have that record. That's one of
- 1:33:46Speaker 3: the few he doesn't have. But yeah, when he was playing,
- 1:33:50Speaker 3: he was just and I'm a Mets fan and was
- 1:33:52Speaker 3: frustrating to watch him play. I'm like, of course, I'm like,
- 1:33:54Speaker 3: I'd love to have him on my team. Yeahs Glove
- 1:33:57Speaker 3: was a lower up with that bat. Oh my gosh,
- 1:33:58Speaker 3: it was. It was so good and he was just
- 1:34:01Speaker 3: one of something. That team is just stacked up and down,
- 1:34:04Speaker 3: that lineup and that in field. It was just every
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: year it's like it's the Yankees and he was good
- 1:34:10Speaker 3: and of course it was good. Yeah, it was. It
- 1:34:13Speaker 3: was just it was it was it was frustrating to
- 1:34:15Speaker 3: watch him play because he played so well for the
- 1:34:19Speaker 3: Yankees and it hurt us. But uh, you gotta give
- 1:34:22Speaker 3: him the props because, I mean, you break a record
- 1:34:25Speaker 3: like that, especially uh for in one year, that's a
- 1:34:28Speaker 3: lot in one year. And you know, so, yeah, Soriano
- 1:34:32Speaker 3: it was he was. He was a good, solid player
- 1:34:35Speaker 3: over the years. It's just shamey couldn't get that, uh
- 1:34:38Speaker 3: that that defense down in that one position down because
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: he would be in the Hall of Fame for sure.
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say one thing about guys like Forriano, I
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: gotta appreciate ahead.
- 1:34:50Speaker 4: Well, obviously we were talking about the Rickey Henderson hold
- 1:34:55Speaker 4: the most at eighty one. Alfonso Soriano comes in at
- 1:34:59Speaker 4: third for fifty four. But ironically, Scott, as we talk
- 1:35:05Speaker 4: about this, records are meant to be broken, right, So
- 1:35:10Speaker 4: Alfonso Soriano did that in twenty twenty three. Kyle Schwarber
- 1:35:15Speaker 4: hit fifteen and twenty twenty four. So as much as
- 1:35:20Speaker 4: Alfonso Sorriano a great hitter, I think some of these records,
- 1:35:26Speaker 4: some records will see broken and some we won't. So
- 1:35:30Speaker 4: obviously this one.
- 1:35:32Speaker 7: We are seeing it.
- 1:35:33Speaker 5: It was broken.
- 1:35:34Speaker 4: But kudos I mean, fifty four leadoff home runs is
- 1:35:38Speaker 4: nothing to be shy about. Like that is pretty impressive
- 1:35:42Speaker 4: if you ask me.
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
- 1:35:47Speaker 3: I think I think the way they do lineups now
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: is different than they've done in the past because they
- 1:35:52Speaker 3: are now one, we have all DH's and through that
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: changes everything to eh throughout the entire world Major League Baseball,
- 1:35:58Speaker 3: and then it's like they put it. The way they
- 1:36:01Speaker 3: construct the lineups are very different than they have in
- 1:36:03Speaker 3: the past. If you were because they had that thing,
- 1:36:05Speaker 3: you're a fast guy, you're probably going to be at
- 1:36:07Speaker 3: the top of the lineup and stuff like that, and
- 1:36:09Speaker 3: the others guys. But we're finding now that teams are
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: like putting like Schwarber, you're good at something. Schwarber's would
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: would have been like a leadoff guy in the past. No,
- 1:36:19Speaker 3: he's he's anywhere from four to like six, you know,
- 1:36:23Speaker 3: usually in any line maybe seven. Now they're using guys
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: like that like in the in the in the in
- 1:36:27Speaker 3: the leadoff, and that's not something you would usually see
- 1:36:30Speaker 3: too often in the past.
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: Okay, let me go back to a couple of things.
- 1:36:33Speaker 1: I want to go rapid fire here. Obviously, I've talked
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: about Pete Alonso and last year you talked about whether
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: the Mets can use them now, but he had thirty
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: whole runs for the sixth time in his career. Do
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: you think the Mets can use the run right now?
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: Let's make a rapid fire Chris, go ahead.
- 1:36:47Speaker 6: Yeah, that was That's gonna go down as one of
- 1:36:49Speaker 6: the biggest mistakes for the Mets coming up in the
- 1:36:53Speaker 6: next few years.
- 1:36:54Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:36:55Speaker 6: They let him go, and I listen, they did try
- 1:36:58Speaker 6: to sign him, obviously, they did offer him the extension
- 1:37:01Speaker 6: a couple of years ago. He turned it down. That's
- 1:37:03Speaker 6: probably one of the big reasons why the Mets let
- 1:37:07Speaker 6: him go, almost like it was almost like an insult,
- 1:37:09Speaker 6: you know that that he turned that extension down, and
- 1:37:13Speaker 6: it's obviously biting him in the butt now with how
- 1:37:16Speaker 6: bad the first base position is for the Mets because
- 1:37:19Speaker 6: they don't have a first baseman, and Pete A. Lonzo
- 1:37:23Speaker 6: would be totally fine here, you know, hitting his normal
- 1:37:26Speaker 6: home runs, playing a solid first base, but instead they're
- 1:37:30Speaker 6: left with no first basement.
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: So pretty hard move. Yeah, it's pretty hard to replace that. Rob.
- 1:37:38Speaker 7: Of course they could use him, you know, homegrown. Everybody
- 1:37:42Speaker 7: loved him it's so ridiculous. I think Cliffs said it before,
- 1:37:47Speaker 7: just like David Right. You know, they wouldn't have they
- 1:37:50Speaker 7: they wouldn't let David Wright go, but they let Alonzo go.
- 1:37:54Speaker 7: It's that's of course of Steren's and I don't know
- 1:37:56Speaker 7: what Cohen was thinking. And it was just a big
- 1:37:59Speaker 7: miss and it's one of the worst moves the Mets
- 1:38:03Speaker 7: made in the history of the franchise. You don't you
- 1:38:06Speaker 7: don't let a player like Alonso with that power, fan favorite,
- 1:38:11Speaker 7: homegrown go stupid mistake. Yes they need them, Eric.
- 1:38:23Speaker 2: Eric, Yes they do. They're only average. They're like, they're
- 1:38:27Speaker 2: towards the bottom of the league. Only average. Yeah, there,
- 1:38:32Speaker 2: it's a big mistake by the Mets. He was literally
- 1:38:35Speaker 2: the guy that really should have retired as a Met.
- 1:38:37Speaker 2: The Mets are only average. They're towards the bottom of
- 1:38:39Speaker 2: the league, averaging four point zero six runs per game.
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: I believe, I believe only one other team is worse.
- 1:38:45Speaker 2: And as a team they're only in the middle of
- 1:38:46Speaker 2: the pack with just ninety with just ninety home runs.
- 1:38:49Speaker 2: It's just a terrible move by the New York Mets.
- 1:38:53Speaker 2: But it's also a reflection of their history. The only
- 1:38:55Speaker 2: team averaging less runs than this San Diego Padres terrible.
- 1:38:59Speaker 2: They could it was all the pop they could get
- 1:39:01Speaker 2: right now, pe Lonzo, you saw him last year with
- 1:39:03Speaker 2: one solo in the lineup. What blew up for them
- 1:39:05Speaker 2: last year wasn't their bats, it was it was their pitching.
- 1:39:08Speaker 2: But yes, they could definitely use him because Horie Biloaco
- 1:39:11Speaker 2: has only played one game at first base and he's
- 1:39:13Speaker 2: had a bum toe all year.
- 1:39:15Speaker 3: Cliff, this is Tom sever all over again, Nolan Ryan,
- 1:39:21Speaker 3: all these other bad deals, this this, this one hurt.
- 1:39:24Speaker 3: This one hurt a lot. When I went down the
- 1:39:26Speaker 3: year before when they signed him for the one year,
- 1:39:28Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, good, let's resign him. We sign I
- 1:39:31Speaker 3: don't care if he he he went for one what
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: five years, one fifty five. I was ready to give
- 1:39:37Speaker 3: him five years, one fifty and then also throw another
- 1:39:41Speaker 3: twenty five million extra if you hit certain like uh,
- 1:39:46Speaker 3: you know, targets and stuff. This this was once again
- 1:39:50Speaker 3: another dumb ass move by the Mets, another freaking just
- 1:39:55Speaker 3: chapter and verse of the of this franchise. You do
- 1:39:59Speaker 3: not get rid of him? Was beyond insane. I will
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: never forget it. If I want to, I would have.
- 1:40:04Speaker 3: If I could take Sterns out of his office and
- 1:40:06Speaker 3: kick him out and put him on a train, I
- 1:40:08Speaker 3: do it myself. You know this. It was just absolute
- 1:40:11Speaker 3: insanity that they let this man go. This is just
- 1:40:16Speaker 3: I can't. I just can't anymore. I'm just it just
- 1:40:19Speaker 3: disgusted me to no end.
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: We've really gotten the haven't we gotten to him? In
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: this show? I've hit it with so much stuffy.
- 1:40:27Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's sad to see. Hindsight is always
- 1:40:31Speaker 4: twenty twenty. But Alonso played in all one hundred and
- 1:40:34Speaker 4: sixty two games from the Mets in twenty twenty five.
- 1:40:37Speaker 4: How do you let someone like that go with a
- 1:40:41Speaker 4: game that has all kinds of injury prone players and
- 1:40:45Speaker 4: stuff like that. You won his first ever Silver Slugger
- 1:40:48Speaker 4: Award for his efforts. He led the league with forty
- 1:40:53Speaker 4: one career high forty one doubles. He had thirty eight
- 1:40:57Speaker 4: home runs last year. I mean, and he he was
- 1:41:00Speaker 4: a fan favorite. Everybody loved him. The Brewers know all
- 1:41:04Speaker 4: about letting somebody go. That was a fan favorite and
- 1:41:07Speaker 4: everybody loved It's not always the best move.
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the Yankees. We're picking on the
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: Mets a lot, but Anthony Volpe was optioned by him.
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: All right, So what's going on with Anthony Volpe, Christian
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: any idea?
- 1:41:22Speaker 6: You know what, He's actually played very well since he
- 1:41:26Speaker 6: came back up, right, He's been hitting pretty well. What
- 1:41:33Speaker 6: the guy I feel bad for is Caballero, right, because
- 1:41:35Speaker 6: he lost his shortstop position. But I think that's more
- 1:41:40Speaker 6: excuse me, because you have the injuries in the altfield
- 1:41:43Speaker 6: with Grisham and Judge and now McMahon's going on the
- 1:41:47Speaker 6: I L So I think that's more for that. Because
- 1:41:50Speaker 6: Cabilero can be moved around. Volpe is stuck at short
- 1:41:54Speaker 6: That's that's the only position he could play right now.
- 1:41:57Speaker 6: I think eventually you're going to see him move off
- 1:41:59Speaker 6: of shortstop. Is I don't think his arm is strong
- 1:42:01Speaker 6: enough for shortstop. Uh so, I think you're gonna see
- 1:42:04Speaker 6: him move off there. And then you got Lombard coming
- 1:42:06Speaker 6: up anyway at some point, whether it's great this year
- 1:42:08Speaker 6: or definitely for next season.
- 1:42:11Speaker 5: But but yeah, I mean he's actually played pretty well.
- 1:42:14Speaker 6: I think the people that were, you know, saying bad
- 1:42:18Speaker 6: things about him and stuff like that, he's actually proven
- 1:42:21Speaker 6: himself pretty well since he since he came back up.
- 1:42:25Speaker 6: He's taken advantage of the situation. He's hitting well, and
- 1:42:29Speaker 6: let's see how we finishes the season.
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: I'm taking a negative and turning it into a positive.
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: Go ahead, Rob, Yeah, he he is.
- 1:42:37Speaker 7: He is playing much better now that he came he
- 1:42:39Speaker 7: came up, he was called back. But the reason, I mean,
- 1:42:43Speaker 7: Chris have talked about this a lot. I just think that,
- 1:42:47Speaker 7: you know, from the start, when they said he was
- 1:42:49Speaker 7: going to be the next Derek Jeter, that puts too
- 1:42:53Speaker 7: much pressure on a guy, especially a kid in New York.
- 1:42:57Speaker 7: You can't you can't say he's going to be the
- 1:42:59Speaker 7: next Eric Jeeter. It could get it gets in his
- 1:43:02Speaker 7: head and he tries too hard and we've seen the results.
- 1:43:07Speaker 7: So hopefully the kid went down, he figured it out,
- 1:43:11Speaker 7: and like Chris said, he's he's hitting much better now,
- 1:43:14Speaker 7: so let's see what happens.
- 1:43:18Speaker 2: I mean, he's been since coming back, since coming back
- 1:43:21Speaker 2: from the minor league, he's actually been pretty productive for
- 1:43:23Speaker 2: the Yankees. You know, I mean ca ca Alro. You know,
- 1:43:28Speaker 2: it would probably be his job, but right now with
- 1:43:30Speaker 2: injuries to judge and obviously to now most recently Ryan McMahon,
- 1:43:34Speaker 2: it you know, I kind of he's he's positioned flexible,
- 1:43:37Speaker 2: so you can still keep him in the lineup, and
- 1:43:39Speaker 2: but you're able to move him around like a chess
- 1:43:40Speaker 2: piece because that's just how position flexible he is. And
- 1:43:43Speaker 2: it's and it's it's a great problem to have. But Pope,
- 1:43:46Speaker 2: he's done pretty well. I think he's gone back to
- 1:43:48Speaker 2: what made him so a top prospect in the minor
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: leagues for the Yankees, which is the hit line. Which
- 1:43:53Speaker 2: is the hit line, drives and hit a home run
- 1:43:55Speaker 2: every now and then, get on the basis and and
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: reak havoc. But he knows that because unfortunately for him, though,
- 1:44:02Speaker 2: he had the unfair Derek Jeter label and when he
- 1:44:04Speaker 2: wasn't living up to it, Yankee fans have a are
- 1:44:07Speaker 2: very quick to turn against you. And it's not a
- 1:44:09Speaker 2: very pleasant feeling to be to be on there, to
- 1:44:12Speaker 2: be on the Bleacher Creatures naughty list, but they but
- 1:44:17Speaker 2: you know, it's it's nice to see he's doing well.
- 1:44:19Speaker 2: The Yankees certainly needed though, given all the injuries that
- 1:44:21Speaker 2: are piling up there right now. But but with with
- 1:44:24Speaker 2: how well they've done in the month of June, despite
- 1:44:26Speaker 2: not having some big names and their big up bats
- 1:44:28Speaker 2: in their lineup right now due to injuries.
- 1:44:31Speaker 10: You got to give him credit though, because he's a
- 1:44:33Speaker 10: reason that the Yankees are having success instead of watching
- 1:44:36Speaker 10: the watching the entire rum, instead of watching the entire
- 1:44:39Speaker 10: season fall apart like it did in twenty twenty three.
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, let's say I'll talk about an own school
- 1:44:44Speaker 1: player to play anywhere. Let me just say one thing
- 1:44:47Speaker 1: about comparisons, Rob Well, what you guys talked about, it
- 1:44:50Speaker 1: reminds me of what happened in Detroit. Was Parky Anderson
- 1:44:53Speaker 1: pen the Mickey Mantle tag on Kirk Gibson. You just
- 1:44:55Speaker 1: can't do that. He's a Mickey Mannle for gosh sake. Yeam, okay,
- 1:44:59Speaker 1: Cliff just on.
- 1:45:02Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to see Volpi has turned it around that.
- 1:45:06Speaker 3: It is like like everyone's been saying, that's a huge
- 1:45:08Speaker 3: I remember when they did that. Oh's in next GM
- 1:45:10Speaker 3: like Jeter, it's jeeer. I'm like he had a he
- 1:45:15Speaker 3: had a single digit number. Okay, he had a legendary
- 1:45:18Speaker 3: Hall of Fame career. Don't do that to anyone, all
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: right now, No player like that. You shouldn't be compared
- 1:45:24Speaker 3: to anybody, especially likes someone like a Derek Jeter. You're you're, you're,
- 1:45:28Speaker 3: you're asking the kid to like fail. It's just a
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: huge amount of pressure. But it's good to see he's
- 1:45:33Speaker 3: turned it around. Cabberro is getting playing time because of
- 1:45:36Speaker 3: the injuries that popped up. Well, we'll see where he goes.
- 1:45:41Speaker 3: I don't know what position he'll play later on, or
- 1:45:45Speaker 3: if you even beyond the Yankees later on. Yeah, you
- 1:45:47Speaker 3: never know. You don't know what deals might pop up
- 1:45:50Speaker 3: that they they can afford to get rid of them.
- 1:45:52Speaker 3: But it's good to see he's been able to turn
- 1:45:54Speaker 3: it around, make the positive, the positive out of a negative.
- 1:45:58Speaker 3: So yeah, that's I would hate to gotten that. That
- 1:46:01Speaker 3: that of the next Jeter. That would have been a
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: nightmare if anybody would have gotten that, especially being so
- 1:46:07Speaker 3: fresh off of Jeter's career not that long ago. That's
- 1:46:11Speaker 3: just that's just unfair to anyone.
- 1:46:13Speaker 1: Okay, Candy had the last word. I want to get
- 1:46:15Speaker 1: to one or two next topics before we go after
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: other Happy in New York. I'll give him a couple
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: of reasons why go ahead.
- 1:46:22Speaker 4: Yeah. The only thing I'm going to add to it is,
- 1:46:26Speaker 4: you know, start the season on the injured list because
- 1:46:29Speaker 4: he had had shoulder surgery makes a difference. But yeah,
- 1:46:34Speaker 4: he's he's been playing. He's from Manhattan, he's twenty five
- 1:46:39Speaker 4: years old, so there's still some years maybe in front
- 1:46:44Speaker 4: of him. We'll see how he rebounds and does the
- 1:46:48Speaker 4: rest of this year.
- 1:46:50Speaker 1: All right, Well, over the next few weeks, I'm going
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: to continue to bring up New York mixed up because
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: why not celebrate them. They obviously, to me have done
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: a whale of job being able to snap a long
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: drought like fifty three years. But we're going to start
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: off with the comeback. I like to go back to
- 1:47:05Speaker 1: Mike Brown gave credit to Rick Brunson. So we were
- 1:47:09Speaker 1: he were barking, if you get my drift, Okay, that
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: the official Rick Brunson was great. He told me to
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: shut the hell up and told the rest of the
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: team to be quiet and leave the officials alone. It
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: was it was great of him because we were all
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: kind of losing our mind. Well, I'll tell you one thing.
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: Let's not I don't play the skipp Rick Brunson, but
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson obviously had good glove lines and his dad,
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: Rick Brunson, is the reason. Christen.
- 1:47:35Speaker 6: Thus, yeah, I seen a short story with how Jalen
- 1:47:41Speaker 6: Brunson's dad pushed him when he was a kid, you know,
- 1:47:45Speaker 6: constantly in training and to really push him to become
- 1:47:50Speaker 6: the player that he has become. Right so, and you've
- 1:47:53Speaker 6: seen it on during this run in the playoffs. I mean,
- 1:47:58Speaker 6: the guy's just guys just amazing. And of course you
- 1:48:02Speaker 6: go back to what Becky Hammond said before the season
- 1:48:05Speaker 6: or a year season before, right, the shortest guy can't
- 1:48:09Speaker 6: be your star. You're not gonna win anything with with
- 1:48:12Speaker 6: the shortest guy. Obviously that came back to bite her.
- 1:48:15Speaker 6: But but yeah, I mean that's uh the good story
- 1:48:20Speaker 6: right there.
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: I like Becky Hammond, but this is one time she
- 1:48:23Speaker 1: didn't get it right. Rob.
- 1:48:26Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I agree, his father pushed him and
- 1:48:29Speaker 7: and look at the results. I mean he he is
- 1:48:33Speaker 7: now on top of the Knicks Mount Rushmore, right, he
- 1:48:38Speaker 7: has to be. It's just it's amazing. And you know,
- 1:48:41Speaker 7: you gotta you gotta give his father a lot of credit.
- 1:48:45Speaker 1: Called statue s t A t U E future mm hmm,
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: excuse me, er.
- 1:48:52Speaker 2: Well, I mean if when you when you win in
- 1:48:55Speaker 2: New York, you know it's it's the great, it can
- 1:48:57Speaker 2: be the you know, it's the greatest place in the
- 1:48:59Speaker 2: world to win because people will people will will will
- 1:49:03Speaker 2: remember you forever. You know. In that finals, Jalen brunts
- 1:49:07Speaker 2: and the fact they did that was huge because if
- 1:49:09Speaker 2: anybody should be complaining about the refs, it was him
- 1:49:11Speaker 2: because he was getting decked around like a pinball out there.
- 1:49:14Speaker 2: But he but no, he just you know, as soon
- 1:49:17Speaker 2: as he kept on not saying anything and kept getting
- 1:49:19Speaker 2: up after it, I knew that the Spurs had no chance.
- 1:49:22Speaker 2: But he, you know, he in the final in in
- 1:49:26Speaker 2: the final game, he scored, you know, in game five
- 1:49:29Speaker 2: he had he scored forty two points. And that's that's
- 1:49:33Speaker 2: a heck of a way to walk to walk off
- 1:49:34Speaker 2: a championship. And he you know, and actually he knows
- 1:49:38Speaker 2: what it means to play in and play in New York. Actually,
- 1:49:40Speaker 2: his father, for him to get an understanding, had him
- 1:49:43Speaker 2: watched the Derek Jeter documentary about about Derek Jeter's career,
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: just so he got the understanding of this is what
- 1:49:50Speaker 2: you're going to be playing, this is what you're going
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: to be dealing with on a daily basis. And because
- 1:49:54Speaker 2: New York's not an easy place place to play, coach
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: or manage. It's you know, it's the greatest place in
- 1:50:00Speaker 2: the world when you win, but it's the worst place
- 1:50:03Speaker 2: in the world when you lose. But it's it. You know,
- 1:50:06Speaker 2: there's no middle there. But you know, the fact that
- 1:50:09Speaker 2: he was the fact that he did that and and
- 1:50:11Speaker 2: got the got the next kind of fact, got back
- 1:50:14Speaker 2: into their mojo and just focused on getting the ball
- 1:50:16Speaker 2: in the basket was huge because ultimately he ends a
- 1:50:19Speaker 2: he ends the Knicks long championship drought, and he's remembered
- 1:50:22Speaker 2: as a hero in the Big Apple forever.
- 1:50:26Speaker 1: You go to Cliff and Kendy and one more topic
- 1:50:28Speaker 1: and we have about seven minutes to finish it and
- 1:50:31Speaker 1: the show, So go ahead.
- 1:50:32Speaker 3: Cliff, Okay, it was Rick Brunson. Yeah, he'd actually played
- 1:50:36Speaker 3: for the Knicks to Hanson, not some very good teams,
- 1:50:40Speaker 3: so he knew what it was like to to to
- 1:50:43Speaker 3: play there. They did right by his son. Hey, I
- 1:50:47Speaker 3: tipped my tip tip of my cap to them for
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: the Knicks to do that, and you know, I've seen
- 1:50:53Speaker 3: nothing but bad stuff from them for years and years
- 1:50:56Speaker 3: and years. They had some earlier success, and yeah, he did.
- 1:51:00Speaker 3: Brunson is no doubt he's considered he's going to be
- 1:51:03Speaker 3: one of the all time knicks ever, especially bringing a
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: championship and then the way he did it, you know,
- 1:51:10Speaker 3: when everybody else there was the old team, team team,
- 1:51:12Speaker 3: and then that last game, it's like he's like no
- 1:51:14Speaker 3: one else is playing as well as they were, and
- 1:51:17Speaker 3: he's just like, all right, I'm gonna score over forty
- 1:51:19Speaker 3: and willed them, willed that championship once again, coming back
- 1:51:23Speaker 3: because they were in a deficit like they were in
- 1:51:25Speaker 3: a lot of those other games, and it didn't matter.
- 1:51:28Speaker 3: It's like, all right, we're just winning this and that
- 1:51:30Speaker 3: that's what a championship player does.
- 1:51:34Speaker 1: Yeah, Carlos, I like her comments. She says, has true
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: short players started, but but this is different basketball because
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: with a roster that worked with Nash Good. Don't forget
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas was very big either, you know, all he
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: did win a couple of championships. Like the points that
- 1:51:50Speaker 1: Carlos made, really good great stuff.
- 1:51:52Speaker 4: Hell, okay, Candy, you know, anytime you go out there
- 1:51:57Speaker 4: and win something that you haven't won fifty three years,
- 1:52:01Speaker 4: like that says a lot about that team, and it
- 1:52:05Speaker 4: says a lot about you know, Rick him and bringing
- 1:52:09Speaker 4: his son there too. Kudos to them, and kudos to
- 1:52:13Speaker 4: the next They deserve that when and when the way
- 1:52:18Speaker 4: they came back. Let's face it, eight different champions in
- 1:52:22Speaker 4: eight different years for the NBA.
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: Pretty well talk. Yeah, we'll talk about that next week,
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: but right so, one topic I want to get to
- 1:52:30Speaker 1: as we wrap this show up, and I want to
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: go back to the closing gift Game four, the twenty
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: nine point come back. Jalen Brunson said this, you're allowed
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: to think about the worst possible scenereio and you have
- 1:52:41Speaker 1: to go out there and do something about it. Let
- 1:52:43Speaker 1: me tell you that's called statue talk. You talked about
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: a man that was possessed, Chris, Jalen Brunson said, he
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: took care of business and did something. That's why that
- 1:52:51Speaker 1: twenty nine point lead went down. The drain go ahead, Chris, Yeah.
- 1:52:56Speaker 6: Uh, you know what in all the Knicks victory in
- 1:53:00Speaker 6: the finals, you know the Spurs had double digit leads
- 1:53:04Speaker 6: in all those games, right, and they came back. It
- 1:53:08Speaker 6: just shows you the heart of not just not just Brunson,
- 1:53:12Speaker 6: you know the entire team. It just shows you they
- 1:53:14Speaker 6: had no quit in them. They were fighting back no
- 1:53:16Speaker 6: matter what they were down. What twenty nine in in
- 1:53:20Speaker 6: that in that game.
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: Uh just it just.
- 1:53:23Speaker 6: Unbelievable things that we probably haven't seen and I don't
- 1:53:27Speaker 6: know if we'll ever see again in in a in
- 1:53:30Speaker 6: a finals, right, for every game to be down in
- 1:53:33Speaker 6: double digits and to come back in every single game,
- 1:53:37Speaker 6: it's just unbelievable. And the team picked up on that
- 1:53:41Speaker 6: energy that Brunson had, and I think the energy from
- 1:53:44Speaker 6: the fans as well at the Garden, I mean they
- 1:53:46Speaker 6: felt it. Uh that's such a huge home court advantage
- 1:53:50Speaker 6: the Garden and uh and it showed in that series
- 1:53:55Speaker 6: and through Brunson.
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: Over bucket list for me Manison Square Garden, Okay, Uh.
- 1:54:00Speaker 7: Yeah, it was amazing. I mean the Knicks, like Chris said,
- 1:54:03Speaker 7: their top down double digits, then all of a sudden
- 1:54:06Speaker 7: they wake up and you just knew they were gonna
- 1:54:09Speaker 7: win every game that they that they were coming back in.
- 1:54:13Speaker 7: Brunson was getting pushed all over the court, the officials
- 1:54:19Speaker 7: were going against the Knicks. I mean, come on, let's
- 1:54:22Speaker 7: just look at that. And even with that, the Knicks
- 1:54:25Speaker 7: came back and and that was just an amazing finals.
- 1:54:29Speaker 7: I mean, it just unbelievable.
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: Well, the ratings speak for themselves. We only have a
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: couple more minutes left the show. Eric, you want to
- 1:54:35Speaker 1: answer this real quick.
- 1:54:37Speaker 2: I mean, twenty nine point comeback. I remember when Kennedy
- 1:54:40Speaker 2: and I first actually Ken pointed it out to me.
- 1:54:42Speaker 2: We were looking, We initially looked and then like, oh,
- 1:54:45Speaker 2: it's you know, rough night for the rough right night
- 1:54:47Speaker 2: for the next Oh well, though you know they got
- 1:54:49Speaker 2: there's always on the next there's always the next game.
- 1:54:51Speaker 2: They'll still have the lead. But next thing, you know,
- 1:54:53Speaker 2: you know, or be Todd, I don't quite remember, but
- 1:54:56Speaker 2: you know, next thing, you know, they just they just
- 1:54:59Speaker 2: mounted a comeback of comebacks against the San Antonio Spurs.
- 1:55:03Speaker 2: And yes, the Spurs did some stuff that I think
- 1:55:05Speaker 2: they they shouldn't have that game, and but but the
- 1:55:09Speaker 2: Knicks just did not back down and came back and
- 1:55:12Speaker 2: what from twenty nine points down in front of the
- 1:55:15Speaker 2: home crowd at the Garden. That has to be That
- 1:55:18Speaker 2: has to be a top moment for anybody who plays
- 1:55:21Speaker 2: at Madison. That's Madison Square Garden. Because Madison Square Garden's
- 1:55:24Speaker 2: experienced a lot of events and historic moments over the years.
- 1:55:27Speaker 2: But you know, something like that's going to go down
- 1:55:30Speaker 2: and Garden the lore for that matter.
- 1:55:32Speaker 1: Okay, make it quick.
- 1:55:34Speaker 3: Yeah, remember this. That's the Nicks. Don't do this very often.
- 1:55:38Speaker 3: Maybe they have a cup, but no one, there's never
- 1:55:40Speaker 3: gonna be a team like this again. And the way
- 1:55:42Speaker 3: they did it, they might win. Even if they win
- 1:55:44Speaker 3: another championship or something, it's not going to be like this.
- 1:55:48Speaker 3: So yeah, it's I give him, I give him props.
- 1:55:50Speaker 3: Twenty nine points and he once again, he just they
- 1:55:54Speaker 3: willed it. They just willed it. It's like, we're winning
- 1:55:56Speaker 3: this year. Enough of this garbage. We're taking it this year.
- 1:56:00Speaker 3: And they did.
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: Candy, you have the last word on all I can
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: say that the Nis can be celebrated and this is
- 1:56:06Speaker 1: what they did was unbelievable and everybody's winning, especially at
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: the box with the ratings. Candy have the last word.
- 1:56:12Speaker 1: Then you have a station break and then we wrap
- 1:56:14Speaker 1: it up.
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- 1:58:27Speaker 1: Okay, my dynamic New York duel, go ahead, who's speaking
- 1:58:31Speaker 1: on behalf of both of you? I've only got thirty second.
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- 1:58:45Speaker 1: Looking forward to being on there eventually. And you guys
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