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9-16: The AI Doomers Are Everywhere All Of A Sudden. Do They Want To Protect Or Control You? · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: I usually try to start the live stream right at
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  Speaker 1: 8 a.m. Eastern time before I get on there. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this, you live streamers. If you're watching or
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  Speaker 1: listening later on, you don't care, but you live streamers,
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  Speaker 1: you try to put together and weed through all of
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  Speaker 1: the narrative and propaganda about AI and the dangers of
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  Speaker 1: AI and do that on time. There is so much.
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  Speaker 1: But it kind of speaks to what we're going through
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  Speaker 1: this week. This past, I'll give it seven to ten days,
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  Speaker 1: all you've heard, all you've heard about, and this is
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  Speaker 1: your first thing that should make your ears perk up.
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  Speaker 1: All you've heard about is that AI is going to
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  Speaker 1: destroy the world. The AI doomers, as they call them,
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  Speaker 1: they're all out there. They're all telling you it's all
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  Speaker 1: going to end. And it kind of bleeds into the
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  Speaker 1: whole data center issue, too. Oh, we've got to stop this.
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  Speaker 1: We're all going to die. We're all going to die.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason why all of this is coming out
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  Speaker 1: at once. And there's a reason why, too. And this
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  Speaker 1: is the main thing where I heard this. That's my
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  Speaker 1: BS detector. Why are all the politicians, the majority of
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  Speaker 1: them Democrats, but there are some Republicans, too. Let's be
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  Speaker 1: fair about this. that are all running to microphones this
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  Speaker 1: week to warn you about the dangers of ai now
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  Speaker 1: is it that the ai doomers want to protect you
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  Speaker 1: us or they want to control you because there is
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  Speaker 1: something really fascinating going on here and it comes down
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  Speaker 1: to this and this is what we'll kind of boil
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  Speaker 1: it down to the people who are warning you most
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  Speaker 1: loudly about the dangers of ai are the ones that
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  Speaker 1: want to have the protective systems to protect you. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into it. It's very complicated, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: but we're going to try to simplify it. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: into it. Thanks for finding me. Appreciate you. Late as
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  Speaker 1: the replay on those channels. Audio podcast, the list to
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  Speaker 1: any time on your schedule, uploaded shortly after we get
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  Speaker 1: off the live stream. We're going to start kind of
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  Speaker 1: sort of backwards here. This is what kicked off the
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  Speaker 1: entire thing. There was a guy that left and wrote
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  Speaker 1: a post and resigned from Anthropic, one of the AI companies.
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  Speaker 1: Jacob Coxon, I think his name is. And all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, his post, and he talked about the dangers
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  Speaker 1: of AI and all the stuff out there. Millions and
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  Speaker 1: millions and millions of views within minutes. Even Elon said
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  Speaker 1: it set a record on X. Combined with the fact,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, all is happening at once.
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  Speaker 1: There is... The anthropic CEO, Dario Amode, who wrote an
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  Speaker 1: essay about the dangers of AI. He's the guy that
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  Speaker 1: wants to put together this watchdog group to slow them,
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  Speaker 1: tap the brakes on this. Our answer comes in this
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  Speaker 1: and who he wants to actually watchdog this stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to him in a second. And who he
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  Speaker 1: wants to control and tap the brakes and who wants
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  Speaker 1: the regulatory commission to be. New York posted an article
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  Speaker 1: on them and outlined them. And they're all nonprofits and
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  Speaker 1: they're all NGOs with interesting names. This should get you
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  Speaker 1: to ask questions about exactly who wants to regulate AI
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  Speaker 1: and why it's all happening now. That's your first clue.
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  Speaker 1: But let's go to this guy for a second. David Sachs,
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  Speaker 1: very smart guy. You may criticize this current administration for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of their moves, but hiring this guy as
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  Speaker 1: their AI and technology, I'm using finger quotes here, czar,
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  Speaker 1: good move. I'm going to start kind of sort of
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  Speaker 1: backwards with his take on all this whole thing. Just
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  Speaker 1: did a recent interview, and he talked about this whole
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  Speaker 1: Sudden push to slow down AI, what it's all about
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  Speaker 1: and who's behind it and why. Here's his take, and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll kind of work through the other players.
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  Speaker 2: This is what they do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these are groups.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they're creating a very negative perception of AI to
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  Speaker 2: further their case for AI regulation. And the end goal
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  Speaker 2: here is to create a federal department of AI. They
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  Speaker 2: want an AI regulator. Some of them also want a pause.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them also want a ban on super intelligence.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Bernie Sanders' bill puts forward. But all of
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  Speaker 2: them want a new federal regulator for AI, and that
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  Speaker 2: is what Dario himself has called for, again, is an FDAI,
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  Speaker 2: which invariably they will control.
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  Speaker 1: Control, there he said. Very interesting. I don't know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: even you have a beef with David Saxby, you can't
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  Speaker 1: doubt the fact that he knows exactly what this industry
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  Speaker 1: is all about. You've got that, and very interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, he did actually mention Bernie Sanders. Yeah, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that Bernie. We've got to stop this thing. He's introducing
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  Speaker 1: the bill to slow the brakes, to slow the roll
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  Speaker 1: on AI development in the U.S. Keep in mind while
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about all this stuff, China has no plans
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  Speaker 1: whatsoever to slow down. None. That should also perk up
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  Speaker 1: your ears and get you to ask some questions. Your
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  Speaker 1: detector should be beeping right now. Wait a minute. Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Why are these certain politicians and players and nonprofit NGO heads,
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  Speaker 1: why do they want us to slow down so badly?
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  Speaker 1: China's going full forth.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And this was interesting. In the middle of an outside
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  Speaker 1: press conference, Todd Blanch, who's the new AG, he actually
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  Speaker 1: brought up the entire AI argument yesterday and said some
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  Speaker 1: very interesting things. And, of course, the Trump administration's stance
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  Speaker 1: on this whole thing is we're not going to slow down.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to win the AI battle. I think Trump
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  Speaker 1: even said this. Who controls AI controls the world.
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  Speaker 4: The AI question, I answered it earlier. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: there's no– I mean, this should not be breaking news
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  Speaker 4: that this AI– issue that's suddenly come up two months
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  Speaker 4: before an election is being, and the president calls it
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  Speaker 4: a hoax, that the way this has come around today
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  Speaker 4: and not three months ago, I mean, I was watching
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  Speaker 4: the news today. Every Democrat senator suddenly races to a
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  Speaker 4: microphone to talk about AI after being eerily silent for
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  Speaker 4: months and months and months. So to talk about the
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  Speaker 4: timing of this as being nothing but an effort to
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  Speaker 4: influence the midterms, I shouldn't have to say that out loud.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, that's what it is. And that shouldn't be
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  Speaker 4: what drives the the decisions that we're making around AI.
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  Speaker 4: We can't lose the AI race to China.
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  Speaker 1: That's the administration position for the most part, right? We
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  Speaker 1: can't lose the, they're very well aware of what China's
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  Speaker 1: developing with this entire thing. But he makes an interesting point.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's a politician too. It's not just Democrats
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  Speaker 1: running to the microphones concerned about this. Most of them,
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  Speaker 1: but not all of them. Republicans have to, to be fair.
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  Speaker 1: But it's interesting. Now, Why now? Yeah, I'm sure the
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  Speaker 1: midterms take part in this whole thing. It's a big
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  Speaker 1: talking point and everybody's, you know, around your dinner table,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about the dangers of AI and it's one
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  Speaker 1: of those things we always used to joke about. Even
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  Speaker 1: before we really even understood the concept of what artificial
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  Speaker 1: intelligence is, right? We always used to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: Terminator movie. Oh, be nice to the machines. Are they
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  Speaker 1: going to get you? I've always joked that if I'm
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  Speaker 1: using chat GPT or Grok, which I mostly use, I'm
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  Speaker 1: always polite because my joke is they'll kill me last, right?
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  Speaker 1: We've always joked about this. It's always been a talking point.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's a major issue all at once, and he
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  Speaker 1: mentioned some of the politicians there, all running to microphones,
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  Speaker 1: all saying just about the same things, all at the
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  Speaker 1: same time. If you've followed me for any amount of time,
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  Speaker 1: I've said this for years now. People way smarter than
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  Speaker 1: me have said it too, obviously, and they developed it.
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  Speaker 1: One of the telltale signs of propaganda is when you've
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  Speaker 1: got leaders saying the same thing at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: together in a coordinated effort. You should question that, no
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  Speaker 1: matter who it is. If that's on your team's side
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  Speaker 1: or the other team's side, you should always, always question that. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just Bernie Sanders. Here are some of the
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  Speaker 1: major players. Again, this is top of my head, but
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  Speaker 1: keep in mind there were Republicans too saying this, but
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  Speaker 1: here are some of the major players all saying some
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  Speaker 1: of those same messages about slowing down. We need to
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  Speaker 1: regulate AI. We need to put These smart people in
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  Speaker 1: charge who are developing it, we need to give control
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  Speaker 1: to them. Does that sound familiar? Was something we just
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  Speaker 1: went through in 2020 not to be mentioned? Yeah, it should.
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  Speaker 1: Here's some of the players. Bernie Sanders, of course, introducing legislation.
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  Speaker 1: You've got Obama. Kamala Harris is back talking about AI.
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  Speaker 1: Bad move for her. Doesn't come off well, but regardless,
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  Speaker 1: you've got that. And then you've got this guy. How
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  Speaker 1: preposterous does it sound? Does it even sound to have
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  Speaker 1: An octogenarian talking, I know Trump did too, but this
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  Speaker 1: guy talking about AI.
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  Speaker 5: Artificial intelligence. The warning signs about AI's rapid pace have
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  Speaker 5: never been clearer. But what is President Trump's response to
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  Speaker 5: the recent calls for the government to regulate AI, even
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  Speaker 5: from industry leaders? Trump says, quote, the only controller guardrails
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  Speaker 5: that AI needs is a strong and smart high IQ president. Well,
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  Speaker 5: Even if we had a high IQ president right now,
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  Speaker 5: and we surely don't, it wouldn't be enough. Congress cannot afford.
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  Speaker 1: Chuckie Schumer, again, taking it all of these talking points
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  Speaker 1: all at once during the same couple of days and
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  Speaker 1: then taking it to the Senate floor in support of
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  Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders bill, of course. All right. Well, he mentioned
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  Speaker 1: Trump there. Let's go back to again. Trump's AI guy,
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  Speaker 1: David Sacks.
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  Speaker 2: What is these people's track record of being correct? I
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  Speaker 2: think it is worth asking them. Well, again, these are
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  Speaker 2: the same people. Let's just go through it. Let's just
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  Speaker 2: go through their track record, okay? These are the same
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  Speaker 2: people who said GPT-2 was too dangerous to release. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: 0 for 1. These are the same people who said
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  Speaker 2: thinking models were too dangerous to release. Remember, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what did Ilya see? He saw, you know, the first
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  Speaker 2: reasoning model. That was too dangerous to release.
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  Speaker 6: 0 for 2, okay?
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  Speaker 1: You're totally right. They said that we would see cyber attacks.
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  Speaker 2: They said that this would cause cyber attacks that would
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  Speaker 2: bring down the whole banking system. Has not happened yet.
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  Speaker 2: There are cyber risks, to be sure. But the best
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  Speaker 2: way of dealing with those cyber risks is by using
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  Speaker 2: AI swarms for cyber defense as well as cyber.
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  Speaker 1: So we've all heard that, too. It's like AI is
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  Speaker 1: going to take all your jobs. It's going to kill you.
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  Speaker 1: Like these are the these are the pre-doom, you know,
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  Speaker 1: prognostications that have already a lot of them have been wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It's not to say there's not dangers. Of course there are.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: And of course it's got to be. developed by the
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  Speaker 1: smart people with good intention. Of course. But here's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what he talked about here. So these regulatory groups,
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  Speaker 1: who are they? Who would be put in charge of
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  Speaker 1: determining what kind of artificial intelligence you're able to use
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  Speaker 1: and see and what's going to control your life? What's
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  Speaker 1: actually there? Well, let's go to it now. This is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: This morning on the New York Post, of all places,
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  Speaker 1: they published them. I invite you to actually take a
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  Speaker 1: look at that picture of exactly who's going to be
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  Speaker 1: in charge of AI. And they all have NGO, non-government organization,
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  Speaker 1: non-profit names, all voluntary groups, all from the same people,
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  Speaker 1: interestingly enough, who are developing AI. This is the pitch
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  Speaker 1: again from Anthropic CEO Dario Amodi. He says that he
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  Speaker 1: found an outside team that can regulate AI. Okay. And again,
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  Speaker 1: just as a side note and for fun, I won't
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  Speaker 1: show it to you. Just look at the headshots of
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  Speaker 1: the folks that he's talking about to lead this thing.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll let you judge on your own. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: his essay is called We Must Pace the Frontier. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And he's promoting something called effective altruism. So he would
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  Speaker 1: put the regulatory groups in charge of these think tanks
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  Speaker 1: to decide what AI is going to be with the
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  Speaker 1: help of the government, whoever's in charge. With groups like
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  Speaker 1: the Model Evaluation and Threat Research, M-E-T-R. That's a nonprofit, supposedly. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Effective altruism. And there are other nonprofits that would be
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  Speaker 1: Silicon Valley based, and they're into this whole thing. So
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  Speaker 1: you getting where I'm going here? These are the same
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  Speaker 1: people who are developing and helping develop AI. They want
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  Speaker 1: to be the ones in charge of it. Anything wrong
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  Speaker 1: with that, you see?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Anything strike a chord through maybe what we went through
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  Speaker 1: with COVID? Because I remember specifically, and being on the
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  Speaker 1: air at the time, where we had virologists and we
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  Speaker 1: had experts and health experts on saying, the health experts
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  Speaker 1: need to take control now of this economy. They literally
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  Speaker 1: told me that. Is it that far different from AI?
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  Speaker 1: We need the developers of AI to control exactly what
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  Speaker 1: you can see.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's another guy, and I thought this was fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: Here's an AI engineer who's been looking at this stuff forever.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Brian Chow. He did an interview recently
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  Speaker 1: and he said there's something definitely, definitely wrong with the
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  Speaker 1: people who are developing AI. They have a vested interest
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  Speaker 1: in protecting you. You understand what I'm saying? Here's what
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  Speaker 1: he said, and he can say it better than I can.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's right for Dustin. I think that's right
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  Speaker 6: for a lot of people who work in NGOs or
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  Speaker 6: who worked under Biden. I think the regulatory capture argument
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  Speaker 6: is more applicable to Anthropic. So Anthropic is in this
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  Speaker 6: weird place where they're both a company that's building AI.
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  Speaker 6: Somewhere between the first and third best AI by different metrics.
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  Speaker 6: And they're both saying, or at least some of their
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  Speaker 6: employees are saying, AI is going to end the world.
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  Speaker 6: And of course, actually, the NGOs make more sense in
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  Speaker 6: this scenario. If you're trying to ban AI and you're
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  Speaker 6: working in a policy organization or a media organization, that
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  Speaker 6: at least lines up on a surface level. But it's
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  Speaker 6: sort of like saying that you're very concerned about viruses
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  Speaker 6: that might create pandemics, and you're working at the Wuhan
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  Speaker 6: Institute of Virology.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great point. You're very concerned about this, so
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  Speaker 1: you should make sure that I'm in charge of controlling it.
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  Speaker 1: Did that sound like Wuhan? Sure did. Here's a guy
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  Speaker 1: for a perfect example of this. Remember Bill Gates' involvement
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  Speaker 1: in all of this? The tech guy who said, am
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  Speaker 1: I mistaken in this? Was he not very much in
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  Speaker 1: favor of a digital ID to see who got vaccinated
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  Speaker 1: and who didn't? Now he's saying this. Now this should
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  Speaker 1: really get your antenna up. Here's the guy who says,
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  Speaker 1: we can't leave it up to these tech folks. We
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  Speaker 1: got to control society and what we do with AI.
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  Speaker 1: We need total government control.
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  Speaker 3: Where is society engaging on this? It's not the role
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  Speaker 3: of the industry to self-regulate or understand the whole of
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  Speaker 3: society impact that comes out of AI.
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  Speaker 8: And you've talked about the creation of some sort of
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  Speaker 8: international organization to manage AI's use and monitor AI.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, the international organization. So in other words, wouldn't it
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  Speaker 1: be a vested interest Wouldn't it be in their interest
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  Speaker 1: to have China slow our roll on this? Whereas, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like with COVID, climate control, pollution, anything that's bad for
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  Speaker 1: the world, they want everybody else to slow down. That
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  Speaker 1: is fact. They want every other society, country, economic power
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  Speaker 1: in the world to slow down. They never do, like ever.
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  Speaker 1: Another point on that, how about the data centers? How
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  Speaker 1: does this play? Here's CNBC's take on this. They had
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  Speaker 1: a guest on who says, this does play into those
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  Speaker 1: AI data centers. You may not be in favor of them,
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  Speaker 1: but you know who's aligning with you on that, who
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  Speaker 1: wants them to stop here, to have us stop developing
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  Speaker 1: AI data centers?
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  Speaker 3: China.
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  Speaker 8: The Economist is out with a story just this week
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  Speaker 8: that despite all the doomers who said 10% of all
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  Speaker 8: jobs would have gone away by now, in fact, AI
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  Speaker 8: has created a million new jobs in America.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 8: We learned that all of this catastrophizing about data centers
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  Speaker 8: may in fact have had support from the CCP.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So isn't that interesting? Now, there may be concerns about it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. But I'm just telling you, I'm getting you
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  Speaker 1: to ask the question, who also agrees with that take?
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  Speaker 1: Who also agrees that we should stop these data centers
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  Speaker 1: all the time?
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  Speaker 3: China.
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  Speaker 1: They're not stopping theirs. Trust me on this one. So
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at a world where if we let these
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  Speaker 1: NGOs and these nonprofits and these government regulations who are
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  Speaker 1: controlled by their other outside countries to control what we
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  Speaker 1: do with AI? We're going to be using the Chinese
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  Speaker 1: AI then. Is that not a possibility? But let's go
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  Speaker 1: and wrap it up with the very first guy we
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  Speaker 1: talked about here. So here's the guy himself. When you
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  Speaker 1: ask questions like I do, this is part and parcel
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  Speaker 1: for what you do. You've got to look at people's tells.
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  Speaker 1: So here's an interview, and this is him. So this
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  Speaker 1: is Dario himself, and he did a recent interview talking
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  Speaker 1: about this push after his essay to push. We've got
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  Speaker 1: to regulate it. We've got to let the government in.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to let outside organizations and the nonprofits and
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  Speaker 1: these other countries, they have to determine what our AI
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  Speaker 1: abilities are. Here's Dario Amode in an interview like that.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the tell I'm talking about. If you're a visual,
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  Speaker 1: unless you're an audio podcast listener, you're looking at the
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  Speaker 1: visual here in the video. You tell me this guy
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  Speaker 1: isn't hiding something as he keeps looking down.
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  Speaker 7: If you're sitting at home and you're using quad or
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  Speaker 7: trap GPT and you're, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: My aunt.
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  Speaker 7: What's your message? Look, my message is... There's a lot
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  Speaker 7: of fear right now.
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  Speaker 3: So, a few things.
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  Speaker 7: One, like, first of all... As always, this is a
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  Speaker 7: great technology and it has lots of positive uses. So
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  Speaker 7: let's just start with that. We have hundreds of millions
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  Speaker 7: of people using our technology every week to do wonderful things.
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  Speaker 7: Every week I get an email from someone who says this,
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  Speaker 7: I was talking to Claude and Claude diagnosed this disease
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  Speaker 7: that my doctors had missed. I get emails like this
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  Speaker 7: every week. So let's not forget that. But in terms
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  Speaker 7: of the dangers of the technology, I won't lie to you.
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  Speaker 7: There are real dangers.
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  Speaker 1: 85% of that time, he's looking down, he's talking to this,
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  Speaker 1: and he's telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. Well,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: that's a tell. If I didn't know who that was
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and he's at a dinner party and he's telling me
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  Speaker 1: about something that he developed, I don't trust him. But
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: that's me, and that's my take. My whole point is
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: you've got to start asking your questions and ask yourself,
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  Speaker 1: number one, why are all these AI doomers coming out
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  Speaker 1: with the exact same message at the exact same time,
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  Speaker 1: including the politicians? That should get your antenna up. That
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: should be ringing bells. Why? And go back again to
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: David Sachs and how many things have they been wrong
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  Speaker 1: about so far? Dangerous for sure. Why are they so
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  Speaker 1: gung-ho and interested in having other people control our AI?
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  Speaker 1: Other people meaning other countries and people who are very
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  Speaker 1: much tied to politicians. That's all I'm doing. I just
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: ask questions. We'll see. But the pushback's amazing on this.
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  Speaker 1: So the great thing is things like, yeah, COVID just
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  Speaker 1: a few years ago This early on in the debate,
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  Speaker 1: nobody asked questions. We're asking questions now, and that's a
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: great thing. Through these questions, we get the answers. Anyway,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: sorry I started late today for you live streamers, but
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the replay on the podcast, X and YouTube and Facebook
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and your audio podcast, about to upload that in just
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of seconds. Thanks so much for the follows.
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  Speaker 1: Make it a wicked awesome Wednesday. I'll talk to you tomorrow.