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#039- "The LinkedIn Legend" · Blue Grit Podcast: The Voice of Texas Law Enforcement

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Speaker 1: I go spend the weekend with them out in Big Spring, texas, and my grandmother would be vacuuming and I'm standing there in a diaper and underwear.
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Speaker 1: I'm writing her a ticket for vacuuming too fast.
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Speaker 1: Seeing everything else in social media and the meat and what do you want to call it?
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Speaker 1: Mainstream media or whatever?
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Speaker 1: Just seeing how much we're getting hammered on and, being in the industry as long as I have, knowing how good law enforcement is.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Blue Grit Podcast.
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Speaker 2: I'm your host, tyler Owen Clinton McNeer.
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Speaker 3: I wish you'd drive down, man.
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Speaker 3: It was beautiful, it was early, no traffic.
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Speaker 3: I zoomed in and hopefully zoom back out of the People's Republic of oh you drop Not.
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Speaker 2: Not.
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Speaker 2: You say zoom now.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a, I'm 30, what eight now?
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Speaker 3: Oh, no zoom.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you mean like drive.
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Speaker 3: I drove.
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Speaker 3: Oh yes, not zoomed or webinar.
0:47
Speaker 3: You say zoom, now People think you had a meeting.
0:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I didn't Webinar down here I drove down.
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Speaker 2: That's good, it was good.
0:52
Speaker 2: It's good, it's safe.
0:53
Speaker 2: That's safe.
0:53
Speaker 2: Dps is not what you Zooming and driving.
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Speaker 3: No, but right now they're concerned with having to help support the Democratic People's Republic of Austin.
1:03
Speaker 3: Dps is busy, so they won't be worried about it.
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Speaker 2: They just released their statistics the other day 77% increase in oil thefts, 30% increase in homicides in the city of Austin and we still, to this day, on whatever date we're recording this, we do not have a contract for the Austin police officers and the mayor is not.
1:21
Speaker 2: He's not coming out and saying anything about it, but I believe the transportation workers did get their contract, so thank God for that right.
1:29
Speaker 3: The experiment continues.
1:30
Speaker 3: They don't need police, yeah.
1:34
Speaker 2: And Jose Garza is still the DA of Travis County.
1:37
Speaker 2: That's the whole travesty.
1:38
Speaker 2: Doing a fine job.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
1:39
Speaker 2: But anyway, well, we got to.
1:41
Speaker 2: Once you enter our guest.
1:43
Speaker 3: So we got a guest that uh, how was your drive down?
1:47
Speaker 1: You know, my drive was uh pretty uneventful.
1:49
Speaker 1: It was a good drive.
1:50
Speaker 3: Uneventful drives are good.
1:51
Speaker 3: We have a uh true Texan on banning Sweatland from Jack County Sheriff's Department.
1:58
Speaker 3: Uh, we're going to dive off into it.
2:01
Speaker 3: He serves on the board of directors for the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame.
2:06
Speaker 3: Uh, has had a good long career and we always like to kick it off a diving in of just who in the heck is banning.
2:13
Speaker 3: Tell us about where were you born, where you grew up.
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Speaker 1: I was uh born in Waco, texas, uh adopted at birth.
2:20
Speaker 1: A few days after being born, I was put on an American Airlines jet, flown to Barry, st Emmons, England, where my mother and father were.
2:28
Speaker 1: My father was a fighter pilot in the United States Air Force and uh they adopted me from while being stationed over there and uh I lived in where I was in 23 plus schools growing up.
2:41
Speaker 1: So I've been all over the country, wow, wow, um, I think it considers me a little bit worldly.
2:44
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change anything.
2:48
Speaker 2: So I gotta, I gotta ask this because I, I, my wife, love her to death.
2:50
Speaker 2: She's well, I shouldn't say that either.
2:52
Speaker 2: Uh, you love her to death, no no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 2: I I love her to death, but she's not exactly the brightest cray on the box sometimes, and I mean that lovingly, if you're watching, I mean that with all my heart.
3:03
Speaker 2: Obviously you married the man, the myth, the legend, tyler Owen, so you've obviously got some kind of brain.
3:08
Speaker 2: We probably just lost a bunch of female lives.
3:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh.
3:14
Speaker 2: So my wife was talking to a person who was from um, england, and so she said something along the lines of um, do you speak their life?
3:23
Speaker 2: Like, how was the language?
3:24
Speaker 2: My wife said this and I said so, wait a minute, you're confused because we live in America and now you're talking to somebody from the Great Britain, from England, and you want to know what language they speak.
3:36
Speaker 2: Take a while to guess what that is.
3:39
Speaker 2: And she was like uh, I said English, would that be maybe a?
3:44
Speaker 2: Anyway, I wanted a side track on that.
3:46
Speaker 2: Whenever you said you grew up in England.
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Speaker 3: I guess you speak the language.
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Speaker 2: Quite well, I do, I'm fluent.
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Speaker 2: No, no accent, no, none whatsoever Good.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome, they said I was.
3:56
Speaker 1: I had a nanny over there and they said I had ginger, ginger hair, not red hair, ginger hair, ginger.
4:02
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
4:04
Speaker 1: Came back to DC and I was like I'm not sure what it was DC after after England.
4:10
Speaker 1: Uh, then started obviously school in Texas, arizona.
4:15
Speaker 2: About, about, about.
4:16
Speaker 2: What age was that?
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Speaker 1: And do we were in DC Uh in between five and seven.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
4:20
Speaker 2: That's when I was young.
4:22
Speaker 1: So yes, uh, dad was working at the Pentagon at the time.
4:24
Speaker 2: I got you.
4:25
Speaker 1: Uh, then we moved to Arizona and I was all over Arizona.
4:29
Speaker 1: One time we lived on, uh, camelback Mountain, so the guys that are listening out there they'll know where that's at.
4:33
Speaker 1: Since Scottsdale, uh, we actually lived next door to Mr T.
4:37
Speaker 3: I'm pity to fool.
4:38
Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool Mr T.
4:39
Speaker 1: Yes, like the guy, the Mr T.
4:41
Speaker 1: Oh wow, ba Barakas from the 18.
4:43
Speaker 1: That's right, pd the trade.
4:45
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, it takes nine attempts at ringing the doorbell to actually get him to come to the door as a as a small kid.
4:52
Speaker 1: So I actually got him to come to the door and I've got a Polaroid picture of him.
4:55
Speaker 1: So that's cool.
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Speaker 2: That is cool.
4:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good, good stuff.
4:58
Speaker 2: I was waiting for the punchline.
4:59
Speaker 2: Like he didn't hang out all the time we were going to the bottom on the show.
5:01
Speaker 2: He wouldn't know who that guy is Him and his band.
5:05
Speaker 1: That's right, go ahead, that's right.
5:06
Speaker 1: So eventually graduated high school in Ohio, teachers and guidance counselor kind of gave up on me and said go ahead and get used to the blue shirt and welcome to Walmart, because you get no, no history or no, no future with your grades and I accepted it.
5:25
Speaker 1: It wasn't really interested in high school but I saw the sergeant smiley.
5:31
Speaker 1: He was a recruiter and I saw him come in on career day and, to be honest with you, I saw the flock of females that came up to the blues.
5:39
Speaker 1: I had no clue what branch that was.
5:41
Speaker 1: My dad was in the Air Force and at that age wasn't interested in it, but I was interested in what was going on, oh yeah.
5:48
Speaker 1: So I sat down and talked with him.
5:49
Speaker 1: He said do you want to be a Marine?
5:50
Speaker 1: And I said if that means wearing this thing, then I'll talk to you some more.
5:54
Speaker 1: And then I even asked him, I said, how smart you got to be to get in this.
5:57
Speaker 1: And he goes I got you.
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Speaker 1: So went and took the as Vab test and I cared about it and actually studied down a little bit.
6:05
Speaker 1: He handed me a book and said you can actually take whatever MOS that you want on the enlisted side and pick, and I said, give me the highest washout rate.
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Speaker 1: And he said it was security forces, which is not MPs.
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Speaker 1: That's what it is in the Air Force, but it's a guarding our nation's assets.
6:22
Speaker 1: That's kind of what it is CQB, close quarters battle stuff.
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Speaker 1: So went in, got meritors promoted in boot camp, got meritors promoted again and security forces training Did my four years, got out and then I started my lifelong dream of being a, being a police officer.
6:38
Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: How the hell did you end up and and and where you work at now?
6:43
Speaker 2: So, did you did you?
6:45
Speaker 2: Did you begin there?
6:45
Speaker 2: No, I, didn't.
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Speaker 1: So I went.
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Speaker 1: When I got into law enforcement in 2002, that's when everybody was kind of on a hiring freeze, so when I got in I kept getting turned around either.
6:55
Speaker 1: I didn't have a degree in Dallas.
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Speaker 1: Rockwall also required a degree.
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Speaker 1: My dad was living in Rockwall at the time.
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Speaker 1: I was pulling security gigs and I was an armored truck driver doing all these things to make ends meet and and trying to figure out how to get a hold of this T close.
7:11
Speaker 1: Back then, you know it was T close, oh yeah, and and finally, I mean I would call Austin.
7:16
Speaker 1: Nobody would give me any answers and the internet wasn't exactly really fast.
7:20
Speaker 1: Back then, you know 56 K dial up in some places.
7:23
Speaker 1: But I knew that there was a state trooper that always sat on the bridge going through what is that?
7:30
Speaker 1: Rowlett, going towards Rockwall, yep.
7:32
Speaker 1: And I finally just hammered down about 12 over oh shoot.
7:36
Speaker 1: I was like I got to talk to somebody.
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Speaker 1: I could never get up close enough to a cop and he pulled me over.
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Speaker 1: So as he walked up the window I was like you're not going to believe me, but I did that on purpose and just a look on his face, you know, and I had all the URA Marine Corps stickers in the back of my car and thank God he was a.
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Speaker 1: He was a Marine as well.
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Speaker 1: So we sat there on the bridge screwing up traffic for about an hour and a half, got my notepad out and my ink stick and he gave me the whole path on how to get to the certified.
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Speaker 1: You know what the troopers?
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Speaker 1: name was I don't, I don't, that's cool.
8:06
Speaker 2: So we just had Aaron Slater on.
8:07
Speaker 2: We're looking at the defender shot out to him in his complete mission and his story, because it's absolutely phenomenal.
8:13
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen that episode, go check it out.
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Speaker 2: And in his episode he talks about a police officer that God's him there from the Meadows and it just goes to show you that you don't know who you're coming to contact with and you don't know.
8:27
Speaker 2: You know, small things matter, right.
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Speaker 2: And so for the listener out there, the patrolman, the trooper, the county deputy, stop and evaluate and really process the amount of time that you put with your citizens, a random citizen just like you did.
8:42
Speaker 2: I mean, you intentionally try to get him to pull you over just to get information, but man, that shit matters.
8:47
Speaker 2: That's amazing that that trooper stayed there, that they know that long a time and explained all that he could have struck you a warning and said shut up and go on down the road.
8:57
Speaker 2: So shut out there and for doing that.
8:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: So back up two seconds.
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Speaker 3: Did you have any family in the Marine Corps, I mean in law enforcement?
9:04
Speaker 3: I did not, did you?
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Speaker 3: Had you ever considered it at a younger age?
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Speaker 3: Or was it security forces, mos, that kind of what, what?
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Speaker 3: What made you decide one day, I think, I want to be the police?
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Speaker 1: You know, and I get that question a lot and a lot of people kind of look at me funny, but I've got polar, wooden, black and white and still or the silent videos my grandmother and grandfather used to do.
9:26
Speaker 1: I go spend the weekend with them out in Big Spring, texas, and my grandmother be vacuuming and I'm standing there in a diaper and underwear.
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Speaker 1: I'm writing her a ticket for Vacuuming too fast.
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Speaker 1: I've always had an affinity to to want to become a police officer every time I saw a police car.
9:43
Speaker 1: And Then in fifth grade I was actually in Big Spring for I think about seven months of the school year.
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Speaker 1: It was the first time I was introduced to the dare program and the dare officer came in the Fox body Mustang, the actual five-speed.
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Speaker 1: He brought the board with all the, all the dope and and just I didn't care about all that.
10:04
Speaker 1: I knew I was never gonna be somebody that used the drugs, but looking at his uniform and how squared away it was and the way he took care of himself, the way he presented himself to the class, that was huge to me.
10:13
Speaker 1: And then for him to actually, with all the questions I had afterwards, he put me in the passenger seat of the car and we got to go nice and slow around the parking lot.
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Speaker 1: He hit the lights.
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Speaker 1: I was hooked.
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Speaker 1: I had to somehow get into law enforcement, no matter what.
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Speaker 2: Well, and he goes back once again, that officer that took you around the block and hit the lights and stuff that, that small effort you bet for him to do, that it goes back to look at where you're at now.
10:38
Speaker 3: Sure, you know so Get out of Marine Corps, get out of security forces.
10:42
Speaker 3: Serve anywhere, cool security forces embassy duty or what oh.
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Speaker 1: I think I'm one of the only Marines that was states out on the east coast the entire time.
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Speaker 1: So they're like, hey, you're pretty good at what you do, we're gonna hold you back as an instructor as my platoon was gearing up to go out on a on a float, and so I missed the reason.
11:00
Speaker 1: I joined to become worldly in the military.
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Speaker 1: So the only time that I didn't explore the world was when I was in the military.
11:06
Speaker 1: So the whole time I was east coast.
11:08
Speaker 1: Wow.
11:08
Speaker 1: So I got to experience weekends and Daytona Beach.
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Speaker 2: You know stuff like that I think it was shit to do Well yeah, yeah, it was a great time you could have had Austin.
11:19
Speaker 1: That's right, I'm just playing.
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Speaker 1: But uh, after I figured it out from that trooper, I Came back and went to a library in Rockwall and started researching.
11:29
Speaker 1: There wasn't much there but now I had T-close so I was able to to call the operator and figure out a number and I was able to talk to the lady at T-cole now and she kind of guided me.
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Speaker 1: She's like your veteran, go contact either a cog or a terror county.
11:44
Speaker 1: You know, for me it was terror County Community College, their police academy.
11:48
Speaker 1: That's the one I went to fill everything out.
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Speaker 1: Next thing I know I was in the academy about three months later and I was the 100th BP away at terror County and and it was, it was an amazing time.
12:00
Speaker 1: In the academy I ended up being the sergeant of arms in the class, the high dog, the highest marksman in the class.
12:06
Speaker 1: So it was a.
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Speaker 3: It was a good deal crazy question for listeners out there that may be considering it Does GI Bill help with police?
12:13
Speaker 3: Catamata junior college.
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Speaker 1: I paid 25 dollars for the academy because the GI Bill covered the rest.
12:18
Speaker 1: Sweet.
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Speaker 3: So at that time the GI Bill was even taking the books, everything else nice, yeah, but is well so if you're, if you're ETS and and looking Trying to figure out what to do or you don't get hired at an agency, be sure you explore GI Bill option.
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Speaker 3: At some of the junior colleges there's a very college.
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Speaker 3: There County junior is a bunch of.
12:38
Speaker 3: Dallas County academies out there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, dallas County, yep Eastfield, shut up them never been the same since I graduated.
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Speaker 1: I was able to still go get my commercial pilot license afterwards.
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Speaker 1: I wanted something to fall back on, not knowing how the police force would be and how it would go, so used it on that, and then I got a statement about six years ago stating you still have your GI Bill, so I still got more in there to oh it's you, and so that's how it works.
13:01
Speaker 1: It is it's awesome.
13:03
Speaker 1: I'll be a doctor and your investment in that is 1200 bucks.
13:06
Speaker 1: It's $100 a paycheck for one year your first year year in.
13:09
Speaker 1: That's all that the military person pays towards the GI Bill.
13:13
Speaker 1: Wow, it opens up a lot of opportunities and I think a lot of guys and gals forget about that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, mine was a purely a donation.
13:21
Speaker 1: It's still in there, though, right.
13:23
Speaker 2: So I uh.
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Speaker 1: I graduated from TCC back in 2002, we had a gentleman that was teaching our ethics class.
13:30
Speaker 1: He was the blue mound police chief.
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Speaker 1: Um, we went to lunch one day and he's like you're one of the only guys, it's not, you don't have a department yet.
13:38
Speaker 1: And I was put myself through the academy.
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Speaker 1: He's like do you want to get your feet wet when you get out?
13:43
Speaker 1: I was like absolutely.
13:44
Speaker 1: He's like you want to be a reserve?
13:46
Speaker 1: I said I'll come work Daily to learn.
13:48
Speaker 1: So he swore me in at Wingstop and, uh what?
13:53
Speaker 1: is that Lake Worth, lake Worth.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he swore me in before graduation.
13:58
Speaker 1: He goes, we'll do another one.
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Speaker 1: He's like I just want to let you know I'm serious about this.
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Speaker 1: So, uh, got hired at at Wingstop at Wingstop.
14:04
Speaker 1: So I actually stood up and somebody's got a picture of it.
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Speaker 1: One of my academy guys got a picture.
14:08
Speaker 1: I'm in my academy, get up, so I have one question was really blue cheese or ranch involved.
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Speaker 2: There was probably probably both, and I'm a huge blue cheese guy with wings at Wingstop, so I would be very excited.
14:20
Speaker 2: That would make me want to get blue cheese more often.
14:22
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I'm sorry, I was probably.
14:23
Speaker 2: Let's look like I'm stupid.
14:24
Speaker 2: I was probably swinging watch this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, but uh, so I went over to blue mound.
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Speaker 1: I was there for probably Three months.
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Speaker 1: Cockerhill police department picked me up, is that?
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Speaker 2: my real.
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Speaker 1: That's my uh first paid gig.
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Speaker 1: I was there for maybe Three months and I was.
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Speaker 1: I got told one time in the academy never become a genie, don't, don't go from department to department.
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Speaker 1: But I figured I could articulate it that I got down to Cockerhill was the only guy on the street.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, it was uh, they needed some more help down there and then halterham city called and they said hey, you, uh, we got you, we want to bring you in for an oral board.
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Speaker 1: And I thought, man, I was so low on that list.
15:07
Speaker 1: What happened?
15:08
Speaker 1: And he, and the guy told me, detective gray, matter of fact, he works for tarrant county.
15:12
Speaker 1: Now he said well, man, you wouldn't believe how many people sign up and they've got felonies or they've got warrants.
15:17
Speaker 1: They kind of exhausted that list pretty quick and got down to me and they were only hiring one out of that and I was lucky enough to to be offered a job, spent my whole career there.
15:27
Speaker 1: And what year did you start out?
15:28
Speaker 1: I'm sitting 2002, so I was there and uh, I believe that was till 20, 2018, early 2019, somewhere in there.
15:37
Speaker 1: But uh, I was in patrol for almost two years and uh got selected for canine and hence the, the bite from my first.
15:46
Speaker 1: Malinois tried to rip my arm off, um, and then I got the dog that that was going to serve about 10 years with me on the street and her name was mary jane.
15:54
Speaker 1: She was uh, oh, my god.
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Speaker 2: Did you name her?
15:57
Speaker 2: That I did.
15:58
Speaker 2: Oh, that's freaking awesome.
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Speaker 1: Uh, she belonged to the uh dea in los vegas before we got her and they actually owed my instructor a favor and shipped the dog out here to us.
16:08
Speaker 3: I mean she was an outstanding dog.
16:10
Speaker 1: She's just shepherder melancholy.
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Speaker 1: She was a black lab, really, yeah.
16:14
Speaker 1: So she did article recovery tracking and uh, narcotics and she was the first thing she found was was uh, marijuana.
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Speaker 1: And I was still kind of juggling names and I was like mary jane chief's, like please know, I was like oh, I'm doing it.
16:30
Speaker 1: And then the city got behind it.
16:32
Speaker 1: Obviously she was a great pr tool for the schools.
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Speaker 1: Um, she wasn't a bite and hazard or anything like that.
16:38
Speaker 1: I'm gonna the the listening public out there.
16:41
Speaker 1: Anytime your agency has a canine, the brass or higher ups are always kind of nervous because the dog can be a a liability on an apartment and buy a carry sliability On the handler of themselves.
16:51
Speaker 1: They always want to make sure they have enough training for those dogs because they're an outstanding tool.
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Speaker 2: Yep, I had a chief tell me one time think of a canine unit, almost like a in-law.
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Speaker 2: You don't know what's ever going to come out of their mouth.
17:02
Speaker 2: You don't know how their action is going to be when they come over and visit.
17:05
Speaker 2: It's just a liability.
17:06
Speaker 3: So not sure you want them in public.
17:08
Speaker 2: Not sure you want them in public.
17:10
Speaker 2: If you think of a canine program like an in-law, you're good, and then it just I was like, well, shit, I've never thought of it that way, but if he's right, right, so Anyway, well, I was the the lowest rank officer in there and then my partner he was a corporal was named Tom Myers at halterham city.
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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, he just retired last month or the month before 27, maybe 30 years at halterm and he was one of the the guys when you get to a medium-sized agency.
17:36
Speaker 1: You look at him.
17:37
Speaker 1: You're like I want to emulate him.
17:38
Speaker 1: He does everything right and it's awesome and and and.
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Speaker 1: Then we got lucky enough to be together as partners in canine and work together for almost 10 years on the street and canine training every wednesdays Um, we alternate weekends and his dog was a malinois and his name was bruno and whenever we had bad guys run, you know, and we'd always say you know, stop release the dog.
18:00
Speaker 1: If they knew bruno was there, that dude was a, that was a bullet and uh.
18:05
Speaker 2: So just to be clear, where where halterm city is, after the list or that may not know, it's on the western side of tarrant county.
18:11
Speaker 2: It's on the western.
18:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry about that, it's the eastern.
18:15
Speaker 1: It's the well, yeah, the northeast, right there at 820 dentin highway Beach street area.
18:20
Speaker 2: That's, that's all, yeah, so they okay, and how big is halterm city?
18:23
Speaker 2: At that point in time, when you were?
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Speaker 1: 12.2 square miles and we had, I think, 85 sworn.
18:30
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a decent size it is it is.
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Speaker 1: I started there and we had our own jail at the time, so we had quite a few jailers.
18:37
Speaker 1: We ended up joining the.
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Speaker 1: It was north hills, richon hills, wataga and halterm city all joined together and that's when north richon hills got their their big department and the big comm center for for 911.
18:48
Speaker 1: It was a pretty neat venture, cool, cool.
18:51
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, so I didn't have any trip you up.
18:52
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no worries Spent most of your halterm city is canine.
18:56
Speaker 1: Well, no, just 10 years, canine, the rest patrol.
18:58
Speaker 1: While I was in canine I got to help the three letter organizations a lot out there.
19:03
Speaker 1: Dea, dps called on me a lot, fort Worth called on me a lot, sometimes more than their dogs, and that was nothing against them, just scheduling um.
19:11
Speaker 1: And then I got called from tara, county da's office a lot based on my records, the articulation reports.
19:18
Speaker 1: They'd always want me to kind of look over Other cities and their dogs and and how they wrote their reports and saw fight.
19:24
Speaker 1: You know if I saw any issues with it and I took that as a that's pretty good.
19:28
Speaker 1: You know they're, they value mine and they want my, my analysis on what they're, what they're presenting me.
19:34
Speaker 1: So I thought that was pretty neat.
19:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:37
Speaker 1: Once I got that, one canine went back to patrol and a real funny story.
19:40
Speaker 1: If you don't have a, get the time, maybe get the time.
19:42
Speaker 1: But uh, my, he's now my chief.
19:45
Speaker 1: He was my my sergeant at the time, cody Phillips.
19:48
Speaker 1: He's now the chief there and I tell you what he's he's one of the best armed police chiefs in the in the state for sure.
19:53
Speaker 1: When I started he was a motor jock and I watched him work up the ranks real smart guy and he was the patrol sergeant that night and he's a banding.
20:04
Speaker 1: You've been in canine for almost 10 years.
20:06
Speaker 1: When's the last time you worked at DWI?
20:07
Speaker 1: And I said About 10 years ago, because when we get them, the current chief at that time says don't spend the time on it, you need to get a ZT unit or traffic unit over there or an available rover to come over and work it so you can get back out there and do your job as came, and if I catch something I like to fry it.
20:24
Speaker 1: So that was that was tough for me to to do that and and the negativity of that was, as I completely forgot, hgn.
20:33
Speaker 1: You know everything that's involved in a DWI, so it was an ongoing joke in our in our briefings.
20:38
Speaker 1: Whoever gets the first DWI gives well in a call, he's gonna come over and adopt your case.
20:42
Speaker 1: I said they're just chewing my nails like boy.
20:44
Speaker 1: And I put my matter of fact.
20:46
Speaker 1: I found a TMP, a update course, put myself through it because I was like man, I got to get, I got to know this stuff and I did it and I wasn't great at it.
20:55
Speaker 1: But I said I got enough now to where I've got my clipboard, I can go through the motions and get it done the correct way.
21:00
Speaker 1: So I hear him key up on the radio.
21:04
Speaker 1: I think his number was 300 that night and mine was 306 is a rover and he said 300, 306.
21:12
Speaker 1: As I go ahead, he's like make my location because he just called traffic and I'm just like, oh man, here we go.
21:17
Speaker 1: This is gonna, you know, test, test, trial by fire.
21:20
Speaker 1: So I start heading his location and anybody that knows the metro area Bell nap goes all the way down into downtown Fort Worth and then we have I think it's midway street that cuts through the middle Of it there and I had a BMW blow the light and get airborne coming at me.
21:36
Speaker 1: No front license plate you're headed to him while I'm headed to help him and my ethics meter started going off.
21:41
Speaker 1: Something's going on with this car, but in my mind he's driving straight line.
21:45
Speaker 1: He's not drunk, so I'm gonna turn around, make sure he's good to go and maybe he's just taking somebody to the hospital.
21:50
Speaker 1: So wasn't trying to upset my sergeant, but I turned around, called traffic and, and Then he failed to yield for a minute.
21:57
Speaker 1: Then I got up there.
21:58
Speaker 1: He reached under the seat to grab a gun to handle me and decided not to because I was able to meet force with force.
22:05
Speaker 1: He made the right decision drop the gun.
22:06
Speaker 1: I'm allowing Arab telling everybody on the radio what's going on, that I'm dealing with a passenger who also has a gun.
22:12
Speaker 1: They just committed several Robberies in Arlington and Arlington was about to put a bolo out on that car and I had I don't know how much money in the trunk.
22:20
Speaker 1: I draw till and everything and.
22:23
Speaker 1: But I got on the radio and said hit 300, I apologize.
22:26
Speaker 1: And he actually Took care of that call and came over to the location.
22:29
Speaker 1: He was happy.
22:29
Speaker 1: What I got and high-five, and he goes.
22:31
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a DWI when one way or another, I promise you.
22:34
Speaker 1: So moral the story is is go out and find a DWI, make sure you're refreshed.
22:39
Speaker 1: But that was a good pop and we got a couple, a couple bad guys off the street.
22:43
Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's awesome.
22:44
Speaker 2: So you, you were in patrol for many years and in the canine Yep.
22:48
Speaker 2: At what point did you think maybe he'd move, make a, make a transition out to really West?
22:55
Speaker 1: Well, when the Dallas 5 occurred I think everybody that should still be fresh in their minds I Got with a couple other buddies and we were trying to develop a training program.
23:06
Speaker 1: It was affordable for law enforcement because usually that's their budgets.
23:09
Speaker 1: So I created a nonprofit.
23:11
Speaker 1: Everybody told me I was crazy, it would never happen, and I stepped, you know, still kept pushing towards it, pushing towards it.
23:19
Speaker 1: My board members were amazing and we ended up Moving out towards the Jacksboro area meeting for the nonprofit.
23:25
Speaker 1: I was still, you know, working in Hulton City at the time, so on my off time I was working on this project.
23:29
Speaker 1: So we were able to secure a through the lease.
23:33
Speaker 1: We got about 3600 acres and it already had a buying range on there.
23:39
Speaker 1: And I remember what it was called, because the guy from Black Hawk Down is the one that actually created all that stuff out there, mike.
23:47
Speaker 1: Anyway, it may come to me later.
23:49
Speaker 1: So we started option.
23:51
Speaker 1: What's that?
23:51
Speaker 1: No, no, no on that one.
23:55
Speaker 1: But we got.
23:58
Speaker 1: We got started out there.
23:59
Speaker 1: We started the matter of fact brain Hulton City SWAT out there because we had a 300 yard range.
24:03
Speaker 1: We had several 50 yard berms and I had a thousand yard range and then we had a unknown distance, four ranges to where we could set up targets and they'd have to figure out their windage.
24:14
Speaker 1: It was just really good for snipers.
24:16
Speaker 1: So Eventually wanted to do that full-time.
24:19
Speaker 1: And then we also had the problem in the schools in reference to active shooter situations.
24:24
Speaker 1: So created another company for that, basically arm and arm Texas teachers put them back in the classroom, so started focusing on that.
24:32
Speaker 1: Realized that I need a lot more time of the week to be able and get clients and Train up instructors and do what we needed to do for the school districts as well.
24:39
Speaker 1: So had a nonprofit running here to where we used to bring a whole bunch of wounded tech or wounded police officers from around the country flying in and do a Two-day neat deal.
24:50
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, we were talking about a gentleman in Cal Reyes.
24:53
Speaker 1: He actually helped me Develop contacts for that and we brought in people like Eli Crane, who's a congressman out in Arizona and he's a creator bottle breacher matter of fact, he was at two of our events out there and just a lot of neat people.
25:06
Speaker 1: But what you're doing is just giving them a purple heart black.
25:08
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys were unfortunately turned on by their Agencies.
25:13
Speaker 1: I won't go into that or anything like that.
25:14
Speaker 1: When I say turned on, it's once medical bills get so much stuff like that.
25:17
Speaker 1: It's an administrative type leave and I get.
25:20
Speaker 1: They have to follow Instruction.
25:22
Speaker 1: I'm trying to just speak for all law enforcement around the country to to make sure that they get taken care of, yeah, by agencies if they're hurt and the only grudge sack that they usually do is go to that 911 call.
25:33
Speaker 1: So that's, that's big to my heart.
25:36
Speaker 1: So, going back to Hulton City, I retired from there and eventually moved my whole family out to Jack'sboro and at that time, when I first started, I didn't plan on putting the uniform on again because I was so busy doing everything Was approached by some people in Jack'sboro like, hey, your, your teacole is still good.
25:55
Speaker 1: Would you mind coming over being a sergeant at the police department?
25:58
Speaker 1: Sure, you know me.
26:00
Speaker 1: Let me look at everything, let me go home, pray with my wife about it and we'll see if I want to jump back into that.
26:05
Speaker 1: So I Took a couple weeks, did that, filled out the application.
26:10
Speaker 1: Jack'sboro hired me, had a great time there, got to learn a lot of stuff and then eventually I was like you know what?
26:16
Speaker 1: I know all these county guys here.
26:18
Speaker 1: I like to hear the stories that they're doing dealing with bulls and cows.
26:21
Speaker 1: I've never had to do that as municipal officer.
26:23
Speaker 1: I was like I'm gonna give that a shot.
26:24
Speaker 1: So Eventually went to Jack County.
26:26
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to get hired out there and that's where I'm at now.
26:30
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at about 21 years in law enforcement now and I hope I got another 20 in me.
26:35
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
26:35
Speaker 2: Well, I know that we have what?
26:38
Speaker 2: What kind of spawned this, like that spawned?
26:42
Speaker 3: You proud of me for that.
26:43
Speaker 3: I'm still processing.
26:44
Speaker 3: He's get 21 in and he wants to do 20 more yeah well.
26:47
Speaker 2: I commend you for that.
26:48
Speaker 2: Thank God for you for in for that.
26:50
Speaker 2: But I I don't know about another 21, for For me I just got out myself and I'm, I'm, I'm grateful.
26:56
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for the opportunity TMP they gave me and, I would say, faith that Clint has in me, but I think that's it may be lost already.
27:03
Speaker 2: I don't know, but what has spawned this episode was your social media following.
27:11
Speaker 2: It's remarkable, especially on LinkedIn.
27:14
Speaker 2: I mean I'm lucky to get like five likes if I put something out there about you know, like the boring shit that I do, the Owen household.
27:20
Speaker 2: But I mean your social media following is just, it's incredible.
27:23
Speaker 2: So what?
27:25
Speaker 2: I mean you sure a Jack County deputy?
27:28
Speaker 2: You've got 20 years in a Hawthorne City.
27:29
Speaker 2: What kind of?
27:30
Speaker 2: I mean what started that for you to have an interest and you know, I guess, humanizing that bad right.
27:35
Speaker 2: So what, what, what begin?
27:37
Speaker 1: just seeing everything else on social media and the meat and the what do you want to call it mainstream media or whatever Just seeing how much we're getting hammered on and and being in the industry as long as I have, knowing how good law enforcement is, it really started to bother me and and I didn't think I was gonna get a following.
27:57
Speaker 1: But what I wanted to do was just kind of illustrate Just my day.
28:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a small populated County, this is what I deal with.
28:05
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, I'm not sharing the calls or but this is just, you know, I guess, feelings throughout the day, you know, of looking forward to a sunrise and a sunset and, and without saying it on social media, that means I Was lucky enough to wake up.
28:18
Speaker 1: Today I'm out here to serve the people and now I see the sunset, that means I'm lucky enough to go home and everybody on my shift Is going home.
28:25
Speaker 1: So, and I'll come up with whatever's in my mind, I'll throw it on there.
28:28
Speaker 1: It's either gonna be a picture or video and for whatever reason, you know, God's control of everything, but that you know, I went from Maybe 1100 followers and I thought I had man, I was a golly 1100 followers and now it's.
28:40
Speaker 1: I Haven't looked in a few days but it's at 29,000 something on on LinkedIn and when I post things, the impressions you know, you know when people were viewing stuff.
28:49
Speaker 1: If I post a little video in the morning, you know, by 2 o'clock in the afternoon I'll have 1.5 to 2 million views I'm not really interested in.
28:57
Speaker 1: People are liking it, but if they're watching that content they're taking something home from it.
29:02
Speaker 1: If they're an officer and it doesn't.
29:04
Speaker 1: If you look at my connections I hate to use the word followers.
29:07
Speaker 1: I think that their connections and I wish LinkedIn would change that terminology on there, I hate the term of people are following you.
29:13
Speaker 1: Now I like to be side-by-side with folks, but if you, if you look and you kind of unpack my connections, they're Any job that you can think of, it's not just law enforcement.
29:25
Speaker 1: I get Thousands of messages.
29:27
Speaker 1: You know, if I'd like, I did a post this morning reference to come in here and I think it's already up to 1200 messages.
29:32
Speaker 1: Either people had had dealings with y'all in a positive way or talking about.
29:36
Speaker 1: You know they're going and watching the podcast on the negative ones for farm to clamp yeah.
29:41
Speaker 2: I have that many though.
29:42
Speaker 1: I don't.
29:42
Speaker 1: You know, the negative ones are less than 1% of all the messages that I get, you know?
29:47
Speaker 3: somebody you know been arrested or maybe had a.
29:50
Speaker 1: They messed up in life and they see me wearing a badge and they want to vent on me.
29:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, vent away right.
29:55
Speaker 2: That's what I'm there for, you're not gonna hurt my feelings.
29:57
Speaker 3: So when did your, when did your campaign kickoff?
30:00
Speaker 3: When did you start this?
30:02
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna try and Make a statement and I'm gonna try and and be a positive maybe two years ago or almost two years ago I tried to do a Post, kind of like a side profile post, after leaving a hot accident where there's no no emotion on my face at all and that was kind of showing we go to bad stuff.
30:24
Speaker 1: And I wanted to kind of see people to see the external of that and Write the internal that that makes sense.
30:30
Speaker 1: So they got to read and see both and that's when it kind of I opened it up the next day and it had like 12,000 likes on it night, just like I know 12,000 people it's going on with this.
30:39
Speaker 1: And then I opened up the other box and I had, you know, 2500 requests to connect and you know of course you go through it carefully and make sure it's not a robot or Somebody that's got no intentions.
30:49
Speaker 1: But I by not an option of the people I'll connect with and If I have to boot them, I'll boot them.
30:54
Speaker 1: You know if they're, if they're in there for bad reasons, but yeah but, but maybe two years.
30:59
Speaker 3: Wow, and I guess seeing that immediate feedback Was like hey, man, I think I'm on to something, or this is positive because one of the things I admire about it there's a lot of people have J2 views about what we do and there's a lot of cops that have a J2 view because of what we've seen and done and and had to process in In years are always positive uplifting, engaging to non law enforcement to let them see we're not all monsters who are all you know.
31:29
Speaker 3: We're human on the inside.
31:30
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
31:31
Speaker 3: Was that intentional about design when you started that or when you saw that first one was positive?
31:38
Speaker 1: When, when I read the comments of people that don't even have family and law enforcement and they're they're pouring their heart out on how that made them feel or the direction that it made their day go in in a positive way, set them on to something here.
31:51
Speaker 1: If I can do, I'll do.
31:53
Speaker 1: I'll continue to do it for a little while.
31:55
Speaker 1: If it fades out and if it's helped those people, great.
31:58
Speaker 1: But I'm tell y'all right now, in the past two years there's already 14 oh, maybe I think it's 15 as of last night but 15 people that decided not to commit suicide based on the posts on your post, mm-hmm.
32:12
Speaker 1: One of them is up in Canada and I'm not gonna say where he works at, but he's law enforcement up in Canada, so received an award from from his colonel or chief Based on that was one of my videos and he just man, we all go through it, you know we.
32:26
Speaker 1: He was going through a divorce and Going through some bad things and things at work weren't going good and and something with an arrest, and I'm not gonna go too Much in the detail, but it's.
32:36
Speaker 1: It's what every law enforcement officer at one time goes through.
32:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to process things and sometimes it's that just the human nature of Well man.
32:45
Speaker 1: If I, if I ended all on this temporary problem with a permanent solution, that's gonna be better.
32:49
Speaker 1: And I don't know how the the mind eventually gets to that level.
32:52
Speaker 1: But to do that, and I actually got to speak to the young man.
32:56
Speaker 1: He'd only been in for four years and he just but actually got to speak to him and everything, and I didn't know it made a positive impact on him till a Couple months later when I got a call from somebody else up there.
33:07
Speaker 1: But it's just a really neat deal and that really gave me the horsepower to Okay.
33:13
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna think about this throughout the day.
33:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, just by a win.
33:15
Speaker 2: Every post matters, right?
33:17
Speaker 2: So two, two, two things one, how important it is for cops to recognize the power of social media, because the reality is is that I don't want to get too much into politics, as far as you know Republican, democrat, liberal but we need to recognize that some of the mainstream social media sites seem to be controlled by people who are confused about law enforcement and confused about what we do.
33:42
Speaker 3: Right.
33:44
Speaker 2: And so, um, it's, it's awesome to see another law enforcement officer recognize that, to do it on your own free will, to do on your own private page, and then see success from it.
33:54
Speaker 2: Um, another thing that we've we've seen on the on this podcast is that, uh, I don't know who it was, it might have been on one of the ATO episodes but the normal person of their lifespan sees about two, one or two critical incidents is over their whole life.
34:08
Speaker 2: The average law enforcement officer, I think, sees like 230.
34:13
Speaker 2: There's one of them that came out and it was 700.
34:17
Speaker 1: So that that meme started going out and I called my buddy at the bureau and I said is there any truth to this?
34:21
Speaker 1: He's like not going to give you a yes or no.
34:23
Speaker 1: About a week later you come back and he goes we're coming up with numbers in between six and 900.
34:28
Speaker 1: So they're probably round up, not off.
34:30
Speaker 3: So that's a.
34:31
Speaker 1: That's a 20 to 25 year career.
34:34
Speaker 1: That's how many critical incidents a peace officer can go through on average.
34:41
Speaker 3: So Tyler said he wouldn't get political and I'm going to flirt with it a little bit.
34:44
Speaker 3: You're good at flirting.
34:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, your LinkedIn has launched.
34:52
Speaker 3: Linkedin is not as politically controlled Do you.
35:01
Speaker 3: Do you see the success?
35:02
Speaker 3: And I won't push you for a detailed answer If you don't want to have you seen the same success on other platforms as you do on LinkedIn.
35:12
Speaker 1: I have not.
35:15
Speaker 1: Um I just similar content, though correct I am now.
35:17
Speaker 1: So I actually turned my Facebook off for 10 and a half years.
35:23
Speaker 1: Uh, my wife and I got married.
35:25
Speaker 1: We're having fun and, to be honest with you, I was sick of seeing Billy going to the gym every day at 10 o'clock and Sally over here is constipated and, and you know, it's just like you get stuck in this, going down and almost depressed.
35:38
Speaker 1: It used to depress me more than my job and I'm like I got to turn this off and I turned it off and it was like a big weight off my shoulders.
35:46
Speaker 1: I wasn't seeing that stuff.
35:47
Speaker 1: And then I started turning off mainstream media and I started just focusing on family.
35:52
Speaker 1: And then I was introduced to LinkedIn, um, by a gentleman in Fort Worth and and he introduced me to that and I saw the I call it the rolling resume.
36:01
Speaker 1: You know you got your picture out there and there's a lot of funny videos ago with the LinkedIn stuff.
36:06
Speaker 1: But, um, the professionalism and the, the character that I'm seeing on LinkedIn is a little bit different than what you're finding on other social media platforms.
36:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, um, a lot more uh, tasteful, respectful folks out there that truly care about you know, country and their families, and you wouldn't believe the messages that I receive on there.
36:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Clint, but Clint makes a good point, though I don't think they're as in tuned or intertwined as uh other social media platforms and I'm elated at that.
36:39
Speaker 2: I like our social media way it's going now.
36:42
Speaker 2: I don't want to get whipped.
36:44
Speaker 1: Sure, I, uh, I've only been, I guess, slapped once by the bots or whatever catch posts, Um, and then that when I reposted it, I didn't change anything on it.
36:56
Speaker 1: I contested it, uh, logged out, logged back in, copied and pasted what I had in there, uploaded the same picture and I, I said on there this apparently offended somebody and I apologize, but I I believe that I'm not breaking anything.
37:12
Speaker 1: After viewing the policies, I'm not breaking anything, so I'm going to reattempt it.
37:16
Speaker 1: That one got up to 50,000 likes and about 65 million views.
37:22
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, We'll pull it up later, I'll show it to you.
37:26
Speaker 1: But I'm just standing in the back of a patrol car and I'm pointing at and God we trust, and I got a piece of straw hanging out of my hat and you know, and had a hat on and it was.
37:33
Speaker 1: It was a long day and I was trying to give everybody a smile at the end of the day and, matter of fact, I had a cloud cover so I couldn't do the the sunset, so I was like I don't have a sunset, but I do got this for you.
37:43
Speaker 1: That wouldn't terribly long ago, Was it?
37:44
Speaker 1: I've reposted it Uh, not terribly long ago, because it, you know, people were asking it takes me an hour to go back and find that picture and would you post it again?
37:52
Speaker 1: And I was like I'm back by popular demand and threw back up there.
37:55
Speaker 2: So I like the sec wait up.
37:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, I've had, I have seen and just speaking on LinkedIn, this is just kind of a one social media guy to another, but Are you starting to see bots that are kind of trying to um?
38:07
Speaker 2: So I get notified a lot on Facebook of the meta business site and it'll send me a uh like a notification of hey, this, this shit is violated, this video is violated, our policy, so it makes you wait.
38:19
Speaker 2: It's like it's clickbait, yeah, and.
38:22
Speaker 2: And Clint makes.
38:23
Speaker 2: So I have to go to law.
38:23
Speaker 2: I have to do repeated training, repetitive training, cause, uh one, I don't listen very well and I'm a hard learner and Clinton recognizes that no defender, I'm a no defender, so I have to take a lot of training.
38:35
Speaker 2: And Clint's on my ass about it all the time, like, hey, listen, you got to take this.
38:39
Speaker 2: You're putting our whole entire organization at risk.
38:42
Speaker 2: It's cause of you.
38:42
Speaker 2: Yes sir, yes sir.
38:45
Speaker 3: But, uh, he's having a hard time recognizing the Russians and Chinese.
38:48
Speaker 2: I do it, it's hard, I mean it looks like a look like a legit Facebook deal, so I'm I want to click on it to make sure that you know I'm not going to get fired more from shutting down TNPA's Facebook.
38:57
Speaker 2: Can you imagine, oh man, Can you imagine that phone call?
38:58
Speaker 2: Are you sitting down, Clint?
39:00
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but we don't have Facebook Anymore because I'm an idiot.
39:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
39:05
Speaker 1: If that ever happens send it, post my way and I will launch it for you.
39:08
Speaker 1: On everything I got, thank you.
39:09
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
39:10
Speaker 2: I appreciate that Well, so you're on, uh, you're, you're, you're.
39:14
Speaker 2: You're a part of other organizations and you're a part of other boards and stuff.
39:17
Speaker 2: Do you want to dive off into the?
39:20
Speaker 2: Uh, what was the other national law enforcement National?
39:22
Speaker 3: law.
39:22
Speaker 3: Sorry, how did that come to fruition?
39:26
Speaker 1: So I've, I've I've seen them on uh matter of fact, they they do it.
39:31
Speaker 1: They started on LinkedIn and then they kind of segwayed into Facebook on it and I saw this uh young lady named uh Megan Stockburger and Adam Davenport, out of Toledo, ohio, of all places, uh posting at that time.
39:47
Speaker 1: It was five successful years of inducting heroes from across this country and law enforcement into the Hall of Fame and I'm like, and their full name is the national law enforcement officer Hall of Fame, um, and they have a website and all that good stuff.
40:01
Speaker 1: But they've been putting their own time, money and resources in this and they were doing pretty good at it.
40:07
Speaker 1: And then I started seeing some of the the officer's names that were getting inducted and I started reading some of the stories.
40:12
Speaker 1: And then I saw that, uh, sheriff Mark Lamb was involved and he was going to be the emcee at this upcoming one.
40:19
Speaker 1: Um, and I I think I sent a message to to to Mark saying hey, thank you for doing this for these people.
40:26
Speaker 1: Uh, because we're connected on LinkedIn and I didn't know if Mark he's got such a huge following from live PD and all that, I was like I bet this dude's got somebody kind of running, running the show, and maybe a secretary will get back to me, but no, mark got back to me.
40:39
Speaker 1: That's cool, um, and then I got to speak to him not you know, not much long after that, and I got to speak to Megan Stockburger and, uh, just saying, hey, I've got a few followers on LinkedIn.
40:49
Speaker 1: If you want me to help, you know, put this out there.
40:51
Speaker 1: And immediately, it was well, what's that going to cost?
40:54
Speaker 1: I'm like nothing.
40:55
Speaker 1: Whatever your postage is on an email.
40:57
Speaker 2: Send it to me and I'll launch it out there.
40:59
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this for for any type of compensation, Um, and I think that's the best way to do things.
41:03
Speaker 1: You know when they, when they talk on your heartstrings.
41:05
Speaker 1: So I, I help, just put some advertisements out for them, for donations, and I don't know monetarily how it helped.
41:13
Speaker 1: Or the next thing I know I'm getting an official ask from them and, Mark, hey, would you would you mind coming up here, maybe flying up?
41:19
Speaker 1: You know we don't have the money to bring you up, but could you, you think you can make an appearance up here and do your do your LinkedIn thing that you bet?
41:27
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go into the story of I packed the day before I knew I had one more shift to do, a day shift, and then I uh would have to drive up to Toledo, Ohio, Cause at that point trying to get an airline ticket that late in the game, it was tough.
41:42
Speaker 1: So I was like I'm just going to drive my truck at 10 miles a gallon, Cause that makes sense from here to Toledo.
41:46
Speaker 1: So the Texas, uh, so I'm, I'm I'm working with a rookie and he's doing great, and then I hear the fire department things toning off and I'm noticing things are a little blackout west side of town, and everybody's always told me in churches or the chop house and man, it's great when tornado sirens go off, tornadoes don't go through jacksboro, they just doesn't happen.
42:08
Speaker 1: There's a curse back in the 1800s from the Indians, and we don't get that type of weather.
42:12
Speaker 1: You can just watch it go around us and like that's cool.
42:15
Speaker 1: I work in the county now, though, so I'm out, so I'm watching this super cell.
42:19
Speaker 1: I've got it pulled up on the MDT on my phone.
42:21
Speaker 1: I've got two kids, one in the elementary, one in the high school, and I'm training him, you know, and and the murder.
42:28
Speaker 1: I hear a murder.
42:28
Speaker 2: So you have a third kid.
42:29
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
42:29
Speaker 1: Third kid that's older than me, so at least he's not he's, I don't have to pull on the reins that hard.
42:33
Speaker 1: He's matter of fact, he was a.
42:35
Speaker 1: He was a police officer back in the past.
42:37
Speaker 1: He just reactivated everything.
42:38
Speaker 1: So we're coming up a highway for an N Jack County and about a mile to my left I had an EF four tornado that were paralleling and I'm dealing with trying to get information to the emergency manager small county.
42:55
Speaker 1: So he's also our IT guy or printer guy.
42:58
Speaker 1: He wears a lot of hats.
42:59
Speaker 1: The Deacon at the first.
43:01
Speaker 2: Baptist church.
43:01
Speaker 2: Well, actually he's the pastor, Okay, yeah there you go, yeah, so uh, I'm getting information there.
43:08
Speaker 1: I'm trying to communicate with our, our high school principal, not knowing that his phone's blowing up from every parent and everything like that.
43:15
Speaker 1: And then I'm trying to communicate with people at the high school.
43:17
Speaker 1: I've been pretty close in there.
43:18
Speaker 1: There's their security stuff in the past so I knew a lot of the people over there.
43:25
Speaker 1: And then I'm communicating with my wife who's making the determination that she thinks she can get over to the elementary school and to the high school and back, and we're one of like five houses that actually has a full basement.
43:34
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get my family scooped up while I'm teaching this guy not to drive into a tornado as a as a cow is literally getting thrown over the the highway four and turned into pork chops on the other side and or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or I should say stakes but um, so she gives me the green light that she's got the kids in the basement and my mother and my mother lives next door and got her in the basement and the family dog.
43:59
Speaker 1: So we're coming up to highway four and three eighty and you can see the tail in the tornado.
44:05
Speaker 1: It just just went through the intersection and it turned east.
44:09
Speaker 1: It's going directly towards the elementary school, so it's going through what's called the new edition of Jacksboro, which is 30 years ago.
44:16
Speaker 1: They created this new edition for homes and everything, so they're the newer homes in town and so I'm just praying for the people.
44:22
Speaker 1: You know, you obviously can't stop a tornado, you just have to deal with the aftermath and hope the people got the warning.
44:28
Speaker 1: So now I'm.
44:31
Speaker 1: While we were there, they kind of put me and in charge of that, the big intersection, because we're not.
44:35
Speaker 1: We don't want anybody to Come into town while all this things coming through, so I'm stopping that.
44:40
Speaker 1: Of course our cell coverage goes out.
44:42
Speaker 1: Our radios, at least on the on the SO side, went down for a while, yeah, and I've got a guy coming up to me saying, hey, there's a teenager trapped in the house.
44:51
Speaker 1: So you're, you're literally grabbing people, had an ambulance that happened to be driving by and grabbing them to go down to borrow a Neighbors chain saw to cut into the house and get these people, but it was chaotic.
45:03
Speaker 1: This is a day before I'm driving to Toledo, you know, and and I posted one, a picture on LinkedIn, you know two minutes after this tornado came through and now it's going towards the city of Bowie, basically just said it was on LinkedIn I didn't have Facebook at the time and said Pray for Jack's bro.
45:23
Speaker 1: You know Jack's bro strong hashtag, just jacks bro strong and I had Several dilapidated structures in the background.
45:29
Speaker 1: You couldn't make out what they were and you know it split the woods.
45:31
Speaker 1: It was coming through and you guys have seen the aftermath of tornadoes, but it was horrible.
45:36
Speaker 1: So we got through that man and and I didn't get any sleep and drove all the way to Toledo and did the National Law enforcement officer Hall of Fame.
45:43
Speaker 3: So it's very tiring week.
45:45
Speaker 1: How far does that drive?
45:45
Speaker 1: How many hours?
45:46
Speaker 1: A little over a thousand miles.
45:48
Speaker 1: I Made it record time going the speed limit and it got up there.
45:55
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
45:56
Speaker 1: I was actually so exhausted, man, I had to stop.
45:59
Speaker 1: I had to stop.
46:00
Speaker 1: I mean remember where it was, but I stopped at a you know Little tiny motel just got a, got a couple hours to get back on the road again.
46:06
Speaker 2: So I think it was about a 26 hour drive.
46:09
Speaker 3: Good yeah.
46:10
Speaker 3: But, it's good times who.
46:14
Speaker 3: You learned about it after it had been in the works for a couple of years, and I'll share a funny story of how I came to know about it.
46:24
Speaker 3: But back up and tell us if it had been in play a couple years before.
46:27
Speaker 3: Is this a husband and wife that just thought of the idea to start recognizing?
46:33
Speaker 3: How did the National Law enforcement officer Hall of Fame?
46:35
Speaker 3: What was the genesis of that so?
46:38
Speaker 1: so Megan Stockburger, the co-founder Her father was a long time Toledo Police Department.
46:45
Speaker 1: I think he finished his tent at CID and she's gonna kill me cuz I can't remember his first name right now, but he made a big impression on me when I went up there.
46:54
Speaker 1: He just recently retired.
46:55
Speaker 1: And Megan and the the other co-founder, adam Davenport.
47:01
Speaker 1: They were childhood friends, I think, from five or six years old.
47:05
Speaker 1: They're both married to different people and all-former friends.
47:08
Speaker 1: But Megan and Adam work on another Hall of Fame for For profit businesses and it's a different Entrepreneurship and they do really good at it.
47:20
Speaker 1: And basically they're having a dinner or a get-together with all the families and her dad that was the retired Toledo guy said you guys do so good at this, why don't you do it for?
47:30
Speaker 1: For law enforcement?
47:31
Speaker 1: What would happen to happen?
47:33
Speaker 1: You know what would you have to do for that?
47:34
Speaker 1: And then that's how it was born and they've they've literally put 100% effort into this.
47:40
Speaker 3: You know what?
47:40
Speaker 1: you that kicked off.
47:41
Speaker 1: I Think now it's.
47:43
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the seventh or eighth one, so about about seven or eight years ago, nice.
47:48
Speaker 3: So how long have you been affiliated?
47:49
Speaker 1: with.
47:50
Speaker 1: This will be my.
47:51
Speaker 1: This will be my third, third event here, so that'd be the third year so funny story about National Law Enforcement Officer.
47:59
Speaker 3: All the fame, I never heard of it.
48:01
Speaker 3: Banning reaches out over LinkedIn.
48:04
Speaker 3: We we connect on LinkedIn.
48:07
Speaker 3: I Take a look at his page trying to make sure he's not a Russian or Chinese.
48:12
Speaker 3: But see the National Laws for National Law Enforcement Officer Hall of Fame board.
48:19
Speaker 3: And that same week Tony Godwin from Catfish cops, who's a huge partner of ours, reaches out like somebody's reaching out.
48:29
Speaker 3: Want to put me in the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame.
48:31
Speaker 3: Did you call me?
48:33
Speaker 3: Because it sounds like a joke and I've never heard of this place before.
48:35
Speaker 3: And that's what wasn't me.
48:37
Speaker 3: He goes, I'm gonna make him, I'm gonna vet this because it just doesn't sound legit.
48:43
Speaker 3: That's why a guy on LinkedIn just reached out that it's somehow affiliated with him.
48:47
Speaker 3: Let me ask him.
48:49
Speaker 3: So before I could ask you or I think I was asking you he goes.
48:54
Speaker 3: No, I sent him an email and made him.
48:56
Speaker 3: I made him communicate with me to vet it and it was really quickly ramping up, and so that's when I reached back out to banning.
49:03
Speaker 3: I said hey, ma'am, my, my brothers is headed up there to get inducted.
49:07
Speaker 3: Please kick him in the balls and make fun of him as much as you can when he arrives and it was a it was crazy.
49:16
Speaker 3: Timing mean you link up literally the same week that Tony Godwin reaches out and that was awesome.
49:22
Speaker 1: That was a small world, that was crazy and then just even talking to you.
49:27
Speaker 1: Just, you know, texas is a huge state, but law enforcement is still a.
49:30
Speaker 1: Small yeah small you know and and I'd say name, he'd know it and say name, I mean just how small it is.
49:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awesome.
49:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hours apart and know a bunch of the same people, have known a bunch of the same people and cross paths and oh.
49:44
Speaker 3: It's a it's it's bizarre as big as the state is in the community, is it still kind of a small family?
49:50
Speaker 1: Very much so.
49:51
Speaker 2: so what's the what's the future hold for you?
49:53
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you looking at getting you know later on?
49:56
Speaker 2: You want to continue the training that you started up there and in Jack'sboro, or you want to continue working for the Jack kind of shares office, what, what?
50:02
Speaker 2: What's the future hold for you?
50:04
Speaker 1: I know you've heard of COVID kind of destroying some things and COVID.
50:08
Speaker 2: COVID.
50:09
Speaker 2: What's that?
50:09
Speaker 2: I don't know.
50:12
Speaker 1: So they it really, it really hurt us on two years ago.
50:16
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get an event together, yeah, from getting live bands out there, and so we we had to put a hold on that.
50:24
Speaker 1: You know, obviously from from sponsors and stuff like it.
50:28
Speaker 1: Just it wasn't happening.
50:29
Speaker 1: So those of you that are part of the events or are bent to the events out there, they will happen again.
50:34
Speaker 1: They're just on hold right now and they're gonna be bigger and better each year.
50:37
Speaker 1: Tell them about Hall of Fame events.
50:39
Speaker 1: No, no, these are the, the emergency operations proving grounds a nonprofit that I operate.
50:44
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah and we, we give their purple heart to the, to the folks that have been injured, and as a matter of fact, one of our first recipients and I think you guys may know who he is, but it's Houston gas Yep, and he was shot up in the panhandle seven years ago now and actually he's one of my, one of my deputies that works, works with me up in Jack County and we also worked together at Jack'sboro.
51:04
Speaker 1: He was the other sergeant when, I was the other one, so we got to.
51:07
Speaker 1: We've known each other now for several years and, a matter of fact, I talked to him into coming down to Jack'sboro and he was the chief up and Is it Fridge?
51:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, small tech yeah he was up there and he was ready for a change of venue and came down to us and and he's being one of our Our first recipients of the Purple Heart and he's also a big backer of what we do and he networks Through Randy out in Las Vegas a lot with the wound to blue.
51:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
51:38
Speaker 1: And he does a lot of work with them and just a great guy all together.
51:42
Speaker 1: And you, I'm sure you guys are aware of, like Dustin Chillinger and the pier support network here Dustin's a good friend of mine and that's an amazing.
51:50
Speaker 1: I mean, if you log into your, your tico account and you're just looking at your hours, the first thing that pops up Right in the middle of that is the Texas pier sport network and I know those guys are doing a great job, Yep good folks, for sure.
52:03
Speaker 1: But, yeah, that's another thing that I do.
52:05
Speaker 1: One on LinkedIn is trying to talk about the mental health of of these officers.
52:08
Speaker 1: I know we got to dab on a little bit earlier, but, yeah, my big thing is is reaching out to the brass chiefs and, like sheriff's constables, make sure your guys and gals are taking care of.
52:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big thing, man.
52:19
Speaker 1: It's huge, it's it's we're in 2023.
52:22
Speaker 2: Yeah we had Joe King on the other day ATO podcast shout out to them and he was talking about he started the alley unit in 2022, officer wellness and longevity unit.
52:33
Speaker 2: Yes, 2022, they've already reached 1800, about 1800 officers and about of 1800 of those officers, about 13% is what they're seeing Actually request help, and I don't mean no, I'm not saying that they're suicidal, I'm I said, but they're requesting additional help or additional counseling.
52:51
Speaker 2: And so he was talking to his wife or his daughter During a conversation came up and he said who the hell was here before this?
52:58
Speaker 2: Right, I mean who?
52:59
Speaker 2: Who was checking on these guys after a critical incident or a sure no, a suicide call that they went on, or a major accident there was.
53:06
Speaker 2: There was not really anybody there, and so we've done a better job.
53:09
Speaker 2: You being problem, you know military.
53:11
Speaker 2: We've done a better job in law enforcement, identifying mental health.
53:14
Speaker 2: You know we're mental illness as a problem, and so I think we're getting there, but it takes people like you, you know, to have the forethought to.
53:21
Speaker 2: You know, do that.
53:22
Speaker 1: So and I'm probably speaking a little before, but you know Megan and Adam will start Relacing some stuff in the near future.
53:29
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil a lot of it, but there we're actually trying to look at a national model for mental health, kind of a Felon, you know.
53:37
Speaker 1: If something's fail, this is another avenue that people can take.
53:41
Speaker 2: But it's gonna be have you reached out to the two Dallas PD ATOs?
53:45
Speaker 2: I have not, but would love to do that.
53:47
Speaker 2: It'd be.
53:47
Speaker 2: I mean cuz he's getting contacted almost every day.
53:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're model, their models great, it's awesome.
53:53
Speaker 3: It's our date set yet for the next law enforcement officer Hall of Fame Memorial Gala awards.
54:01
Speaker 2: Moving to Fort Worth.
54:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be.
54:06
Speaker 1: March 22nd.
54:07
Speaker 1: I Would love to extend this as a personal invite to TMPA and y'all to come see this, because to hear some of these stories when you get in there and both y'all having law enforcement experience, you know we think we do a great job out on the street.
54:19
Speaker 1: Then you hear some of the stories of these folks that are getting inducted and which I got to let everybody know, the people that get nominated.
54:27
Speaker 1: There's nobody on our board that this is a third party that's has nothing to do with the Hall of Fame that actually goes through these and and sits with their board of people and they're the ones that actually select the ones that are gonna get inducted.
54:40
Speaker 1: I love it.
54:41
Speaker 1: That's not us.
54:41
Speaker 1: You know we get to see the people that are nominated and get to read their stories, but we're not, we're not selecting that.
54:48
Speaker 1: So but it's, it's an amazing event and there's if there's anybody out there that has a patriotic business I'm sure there's a few in Texas they would like to become a sponsor for that.
54:58
Speaker 1: There's still sponsorships available for the, the March 22nd one coming up.
55:02
Speaker 1: If it does well this year in Texas, we want to keep it in Texas.
55:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to.
55:07
Speaker 1: Nothing against Toledo, but down here it's a little bit more Hospitality and stuff like that belongs in God's country.
55:16
Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely.
55:17
Speaker 2: You bet and we're gonna have although footwork considered a Plenty skanky land just going about there.
55:22
Speaker 1: I told that and I believe Bill Weber is gonna be speaking there as well, terry County Sheriff.
55:27
Speaker 1: We'll have some other other speakers.
55:29
Speaker 1: I'll be up there speaking as well.
55:30
Speaker 1: It's just a great event and I mean, if you're, if you're somebody that have any law enforcement, your family and you're free that week and you want to buy a ticket to come in, as long as you're a law enforcement's border and you want to see what's going on, man, you are more than welcome to come so it's a more the better.
55:46
Speaker 1: Maybe I can be Clint.
55:46
Speaker 3: State Plus one.
55:51
Speaker 1: That's right.
55:52
Speaker 3: So I like to always ask and we ever rapid fire at them, but I've got three questions that I've liked asking.
55:58
Speaker 3: What would?
56:01
Speaker 3: I don't know how old you are, so I don't want to offend you.
56:03
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're 44.
56:04
Speaker 1: It's fun, 44, I was guessing like 34.
56:06
Speaker 2: I was gonna say 28.
56:08
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, what would 44 year old banning say to 15, 16 year old banning, knowing what you know now?
56:18
Speaker 1: Keep going in the path that you're going because, you're, you're gonna go somewhere.
56:21
Speaker 1: I would, I wouldn't, I don't want to change anything in my past because what I see in front of me and what I've experienced, there's not an amount of money that can give me that same experience again.
56:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it.
56:34
Speaker 3: What's banning's worst day and what's banning's best day?
56:41
Speaker 1: Worst day?
56:41
Speaker 1: Well, I Guess my worst day was about three months ago and it wasn't A little job related because I had to get time off, uh, but was getting a phone call from my stepmother out in Alabama.
56:55
Speaker 1: Um, she was so broken up and crying but she, she said that your, your dad's, passed away, and this is the day I got back after the whole thing.
57:05
Speaker 1: So I got to speak to him the day before, which was his birthday.
57:09
Speaker 1: He was in Atlanta golfing.
57:11
Speaker 1: He used to like to get a lot of his Air Force guys and the guys used to work with it Raytheon, uh, and once a year and they go to Atlanta and ran out this hotel and play.
57:21
Speaker 1: I think it's three or four days of golf and just golf, golf, golf, maybe a couple of adult beverages and golf, golf, golf.
57:26
Speaker 1: So it was a something he enjoyed.
57:28
Speaker 1: But I actually, you know, called him on his birthday and, uh, I had the longest conversation with him that I've had in probably 10 years.
57:36
Speaker 1: Dad and I spoke maybe once or twice a month because both of our schedules were just, uh, here and there and and that conversation I mean I think we connected more in that conversation that I did as a child with him, um, almost like he knew it was coming.
57:52
Speaker 1: And, uh, the matter of fact, uh, my, my stepmother, you know, talking to her on the phone, as I'm on the phone with her, she's opening up drawers and he's she's finding this is what you do for that bank.
58:06
Speaker 1: This is what you do for.
58:08
Speaker 1: I mean he was sick but uh, he had a, he had a tragic accident and tripped on something and hit a hit, a hit a drawer and it's kind of I hate to use the terminology and my father and some other DRTs and and uh, I'm hoping just you know didn't experience any, any pain about it.
58:22
Speaker 1: Um, and a matter of fact, speaking of the, the hall of fame, I wasn't getting any answers from that agency where this golf course was at and I was kind of getting.
58:32
Speaker 1: I didn't call him and say, hey, I'm a cop, I want to happen.
58:35
Speaker 1: You know, I just just hey, I'm banning.
58:37
Speaker 1: My father passed away last night, uh, and in that hotel that y'all did the crimes.
58:43
Speaker 1: Can you kind of tell how it's privileged information?
58:45
Speaker 1: So who do I need to call?
58:47
Speaker 1: You know we can't tell you anything and they weren't telling her anything.
58:50
Speaker 1: It was just a frustration.
58:51
Speaker 1: So I reached out to Cheryl McCullum, who's got a, uh, all kinds of awards and CSI, and she's in the Atlanta area and uh, she made some phone calls for me and and kind of helped me out and uh, but she's one of our inductees and an amazing woman.
59:05
Speaker 1: She's always on a lot of TV shows and reference to CSI and stuff.
59:09
Speaker 1: She's got an Emmy award for it as a matter of fact so that's nice to be able to you, the people that I've met in this journey money can't pay for that the connections that you make in this journey, just in law enforcement in general.
59:22
Speaker 1: But then on the the, for what I'm trying to do is just humanizing the badge across this country and around the world.
59:28
Speaker 1: Um, you look at the role of the next people that you get to meet and and that's that's huge man, absolutely huge.
59:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's banding's worst day.
59:35
Speaker 3: What's what's?
59:36
Speaker 3: What's the best day?
59:38
Speaker 1: Best day?
59:39
Speaker 1: Uh, that's going to be four of them.
59:42
Speaker 1: So you know, uh, the birth of my first child, who's now about to be 17 years old, uh, it could be the absolute pain in my rear sometimes, but, uh, you know, being adopted at birth, I didn't know what I looked like and to see this, this, this kid, develop, all my kids, I've got three of them, uh, so those are the three of the days is their birth were my best days.
1:00:03
Speaker 1: And then, of course, when I, when I met and uh, married my wife.
1:00:06
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, if you all go on to YouTube and just type in banning sweatland, there's a proposal there that did a upset a lot of the Fort Worth police officers because I use air one, their helicopter.
1:00:18
Speaker 1: I've got a couple of fire trucks, several police cars waiting outside Haltam city and my, my fiance or my girlfriend at the time was um working in there as a dispatcher and I went around and covered up all the cameras with brown bags, brought in all the all the fire trucks made the calls earlier with the air one commander and, uh, and just for the the people that are worried about the, the tax paying stuff they were already going out that night doing a training op and they didn't have to divert, it was the same flight path.
1:00:50
Speaker 1: All they did was use their spotlight.
1:00:51
Speaker 1: They they did a couple of what's called for pilots out there turns around a point, so that's part of their training.
1:00:56
Speaker 1: And they just happened to use their spotlight.
1:00:57
Speaker 1: And at the Hultam city parking lot she came out.
1:01:00
Speaker 1: She thought the crime scene was going on and she's like I just left the nerve center of the city.
1:01:04
Speaker 1: Why didn't I know this was so you can see her in the video kind of pop her head out, and then I had to call her name.
1:01:10
Speaker 1: She was about to go back in there, um, and then it was a about a minute and a half proposal and I was actually wearing a.
1:01:16
Speaker 1: Uh, what was it?
1:01:18
Speaker 1: The old L three, you know?
1:01:20
Speaker 3: her dash cam.
1:01:20
Speaker 1: I had the body mic on me.
1:01:22
Speaker 1: So we have our own private that I paid for, for the CD, for the burning and all that, and uh, the chief allowed me to have that for our private collection.
1:01:29
Speaker 1: Just what I said, doer there and it was a neat deal, but uh had about 60, 65 people in the parking lot, witness it from officers and her family all came in.
1:01:38
Speaker 1: I mean it was uh, everybody asked me when did you decide to do that?
1:01:41
Speaker 1: I said six o'clock in the morning when I got off work and I went out and I got the ring, went and talked to her dad uh, figured out the uh the helicopter and got with the fire chief, got with the police chief, got everything lined up man and I wanted to make sure it was all nice and bright out there for us.
1:01:57
Speaker 3: He learned that from Mr T grown up.
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Speaker 3: I love it when a plan comes together.
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Speaker 3: I was only 18.
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Speaker 1: So not to extend more time, but I worked in canine.
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Speaker 1: I worked a lot with Fort Worth, obviously surrounding agencies and I knew where these guys would sit and do paperwork and if I was on a break I'd go a mile out of my city and meet with a Fort Worth guys and see how he's doing.
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Speaker 1: I pull up next to him.
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Speaker 1: He just rolled his window up.
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Speaker 1: What's the deal?
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Speaker 1: He rolled down a little bit more and he rolled up again.
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Speaker 1: I'm like I've helped this guy a lot on calls.
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Speaker 1: I'm like dude, what's what's going on?
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Speaker 1: Why are you rolling up the window?
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Speaker 1: He goes you can get a freaking helicopter for marriage proposals when we just had a pursuit last night.
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Speaker 1: They're too busy to take off.
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Speaker 1: So it was jokingly and in good nature.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I kind of ruffled the question.
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Speaker 3: That's awesome.
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Speaker 1: That's awesome A bunch of good guys up there.
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Speaker 2: Well, um man, thank you so much for coming on, dude.
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Speaker 2: It's been, it's been awesome.
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Speaker 2: Uh, I think we've sparked up a good friendship here.
1:02:47
Speaker 2: I look forward to maybe seeing you in March, yes, and look forward to connecting with you on LinkedIn as soon as we get done with this podcast.
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Speaker 2: So we typically end each podcast with three rapid fire questions Got faith in you?
1:03:01
Speaker 2: Uh, my compadre here is obsessed, absolutely obsessed.
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Speaker 2: He has a man cave, uh, with this vehicle all over it, and he actually has one by his nightstand with him standing in front of it.
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Speaker 2: So we will damn sure get that to the minute.
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Speaker 2: Three questions Best cop movie or life from a cop movie?
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Speaker 2: Best cop car?
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Speaker 2: Best drink of choice?
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Speaker 1: Best cop movie for me as a Beverly Hills cop trilogy.
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Speaker 1: I just got back to that so many times.
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Speaker 1: What was the second question again what is the best patrol vehicle least?
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Speaker 2: vehicle that you've ever had.
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Speaker 1: Best one that I've had.
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Speaker 1: I'm a crowd Vic man, you know I I love the talk.
1:03:37
Speaker 1: I'm in a brand new 22 taco right now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's, it's roomy, it's spacious, it's great for my back.
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Speaker 1: But from having a lot of pursuits and and and we'll just say a different agency that has gone down to the, to the stockyards and having all kinds of fun being able to drift, drift the crown Vic around corners and the roar and the roar, and not so much horsepower, but there's a lot of roar.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of thunder.
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Speaker 1: In that it was my personal vehicle.
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Speaker 1: I finally bought my dream car.
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Speaker 1: I've got a hell cap, so it's a little bit different.
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Speaker 1: I'd love to have red and blues on that thing.
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Speaker 1: You know, not much is going to get away from you.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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Speaker 1: What's your?
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Speaker 2: best truck ever been.
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Speaker 2: What's your best truck of choice?
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Speaker 2: Remember hanging out.
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Speaker 2: Hanging out like adult beverages.
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Speaker 1: I dabble, you know, a couple of times a year, maybe Tito's with a splash of sprite, or vice versa.
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Speaker 3: There you go, I like that it's good stuff.
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Speaker 2: That's good stuff.
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Speaker 3: Well, you got anything else?
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Speaker 3: Clamp?
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Speaker 3: Nope.
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Speaker 3: You guys check out national law enforcement officer hall of fame.
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Speaker 3: Look at the dates coming up March 22nd, March 22nd I'm Dominique Fort Worth.
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Speaker 3: Look banding up on your socials out there and link up with him and he's got a great outreach.
1:04:53
Speaker 3: It's a positive outreach.
1:04:53
Speaker 3: It's a great connect with the community.
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Speaker 3: It's not just our community.
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Speaker 3: I was laughing the other day.
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Speaker 3: I was looking on there.
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Speaker 3: You got people from freaking Brazil and Columbia and Canada and you got to hit the translate button.
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Speaker 1: Man, it's awesome how they have that built in Yep.
1:05:07
Speaker 1: It's cool man.
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Speaker 3: What a great outreach.
1:05:11
Speaker 1: It turns to, if I can just say, on social media to Facebook.
1:05:13
Speaker 1: I don't know why people do it, but there's in between five and 15 fake banding sweatlines out there.
1:05:19
Speaker 1: I've reported them all.
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Speaker 1: They want you to do it.
1:05:22
Speaker 1: You're the real one, I think.
1:05:23
Speaker 1: So I'm starting to think about it now and I might not be Clark, listen to me.
1:05:27
Speaker 1: So when you're looking on the Facebook one, just look for my big fat mug.
1:05:32
Speaker 1: Think we're in a cowboy hat and I've got a little.
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Speaker 1: What do you call it?
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Speaker 1: Bobblehead doll?
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Speaker 1: That's the real page.
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Speaker 1: You can be okay, but now of course they're.
1:05:41
Speaker 1: The fake ones are going to go switch all of their use to that, but I'll try to monitor.
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Speaker 2: I got to get with the afterwards get this bobblehead thing, because Joe Gamaldi shout out to Joe Gamaldi, our recently elected vice president of national FOP he had a bobblehead and has bobbleheads at every single FOP conference.
1:05:55
Speaker 2: It's time me and Clint get our old bobbleheads for blue grit podcast and maybe sell those on the side.
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Speaker 2: What do you think?
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Speaker 1: No, Everybody keeps telling me to open up a merch store for bobbleheads and shirts and coins.
1:06:07
Speaker 1: I was like they're like dude your beard, but one of your sayings on there yeah.
1:06:12
Speaker 2: We get with a relentless defender.
1:06:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you covered there, yeah.
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Speaker 3: RDA, relentless defender.
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Speaker 3: You just met Slater, he'll take care of you.
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Speaker 3: I think I'm going to maybe just do a Clint McNeer hot wheel of a Caprice 94.
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Speaker 3: Caprice, you can get a bubble back.
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Speaker 3: Oh, 350.
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Speaker 2: LT's car with the Corvette.
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Speaker 2: When I said bobblehead, I meant like me and you together, oh, okay.
1:06:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can do that.
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Speaker 2: I guess that'd be fine, you want a Caprice?
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Speaker 2: Now Get a good one.
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Speaker 1: So there you go, get a bigger Caprice, two bobbleheads, and have the bended legs, so you put them in the Caprice.
1:06:43
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 2: Crown Vic, that's what I want.
1:06:46
Speaker 2: You guys stay safe out there, please, please, please, stay safe as always.
1:06:51
Speaker 2: May God bless you.
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Speaker 2: May God bless Texas.
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Speaker 2: We're out, we're out, we're out.