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Ep. 726: East Coast Fishing and Killing Oaks | MeatEater Radio Live! · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us Now, Lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live, coming to you live
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  Speaker 1: for Meat Eaters World Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. It's eleven
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  Speaker 1: am Mountain time on July third. That's eight pm for
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  Speaker 1: Steven Ronella, who's currently in Tanzania. I'm your host, Jiannaspitalis,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm here today with Spencer Newharth aka Booth, and
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  Speaker 1: Austin Kleberad aka Chili. On today's show, We've got big
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  Speaker 1: news out of Pennsylvania. I'll bring you up to speed
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  Speaker 1: on my training for the Crazy Mountain one hundred. We're
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  Speaker 1: getting a fishing report from Tony Jackson on the Crystal Coast,
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina. Tony's also playing one Minute Fishing in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be playing fake News brought to you by Spencer Newhart.
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  Speaker 1: And lastly we'll talk to Jacob Hernandez and Bo Hendrickson
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  Speaker 1: from the US Fish and Wildlife Services Partners for Fish
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  Speaker 1: and Wildlife program who are on site. It might soon
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  Speaker 1: to be oak Savannah in central Wisconsin, so let's get
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  Speaker 1: right to it. Spencer, how did you get the nickname Booth?
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  Speaker 2: You've been fascinated by this ever since you heard that
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  Speaker 2: was my high school nickname.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I asked everybody their nicknames from high school when
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  Speaker 1: we were for intros for doing roast, but then then
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  Speaker 1: they never really became part of the show. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that I think you actually told me the story,
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  Speaker 1: but I feel like we should tell the world.
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  Speaker 2: It was just born out of teener baseball. It was
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  Speaker 2: like every single player had to have a nickname, and
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  Speaker 2: I happened to resemble a pitcher for the Minnesota Twins
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  Speaker 2: named Booth Bondser. We both had shaggy haircuts through an
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  Speaker 2: average curveball. You're a I mean you played everyone is
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  Speaker 2: a pitcher in tenor baseball and a town of six
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  Speaker 2: hundred people. So yeah, anyway, just everyone got a nickname.
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  Speaker 2: I was. I was Boof, named after Boof Bondser, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that was his real nickname either. He
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  Speaker 2: came over in one of the Minnesota Twins best trades
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  Speaker 2: in franchise history. Yeah, they got Francisco Leriano, Boof Bonser
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  Speaker 2: and Joe Nathan totally like changed the trajectory of their
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  Speaker 2: franchise for a few years. My favorite era of Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: Twins baseball, so that that nickname boof Uh. If I
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  Speaker 2: go back home to where I'm from, that's that's what
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  Speaker 2: I'll get called.
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  Speaker 3: Oh oh, so it has kind of stuck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sticks, like my my old coaches and teachers
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  Speaker 2: will call me that, my high school buddies, but I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't hear it in Montana. Besides Yanni Chilli.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we should bring that around.
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  Speaker 1: We should.
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  Speaker 2: We should definitely call him booth I did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, we all know how Chili got his uh nickname.
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  Speaker 2: It's so cold, So what's that? Because he's so cold?
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  Speaker 2: So cold? They used to call me something different back
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  Speaker 2: in the back in Oh what's that?
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  Speaker 4: They used to call me club? And like so like that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: call me club. And then so when I go on,
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  Speaker 4: like Spencer was saying, it's just like all like the
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  Speaker 4: coaches and it's like clebby Club. Nobody calls me Chili
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  Speaker 4: from back on Club.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Chili's better onwards, Oh, Phil, e're up. Now He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: do a quick plug for the kids show, which is
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  Speaker 1: back in action.
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  Speaker 5: Kids shows, Back in Action. We have a kids show.
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  Speaker 5: It's called the Meat Eater Kids Podcast. It's fitting uh
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  Speaker 5: season three just started. There is one episode out so far. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: it's but the most important thing is that it's on
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  Speaker 5: its own feed, not dropping any episodes on the Meat
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  Speaker 5: Eater podcast feeds. You just have to do the incredibly
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  Speaker 5: hard work of typing in Meat Eater Kids into whatever
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  Speaker 5: app you you and then follow or subscribe.
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  Speaker 6: And yeah, we've got.
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  Speaker 5: Clay doing the first segment instead of Steve the why
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  Speaker 5: It's the Way it Is segment Maggie Headlow's doing. Guess
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  Speaker 5: that Critter and Spencer still in the host chair for
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  Speaker 5: trivia as is appropriate, So.
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  Speaker 6: Check it out.
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  Speaker 5: Another thing, Oh yeah, we're doing five episodes they drop
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  Speaker 5: on Mondays.
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  Speaker 6: That's important.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't a dig at anything else we do. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's the best thing we make on the podcast front.
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  Speaker 5: It's I mean, it's definitely. Yeah, it stands on its
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  Speaker 5: own it's it's I mean, it's fun for me to
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  Speaker 5: work on.
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  Speaker 6: I like it a lot as.
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  Speaker 2: Well, similar similar to radio, fil gets to really flick
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  Speaker 2: flex his engineering audio muscles because there's all sorts of
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  Speaker 2: fun sounds in there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pretty proud of it. I just either I
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  Speaker 5: felt something on my neck and I just went to
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  Speaker 5: go smack it, and then you see.
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  Speaker 2: The second one here today is filled with blood film.
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  Speaker 6: Probably not. I don't think that's all mine could be though, Oh.
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  Speaker 3: We're sharing diseases.
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  Speaker 2: Probably two mosquitos in the podcast studio.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, with us a very short time period. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like in and around Bozeman with the Skeeter season like
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  Speaker 1: one to two weeks. And I noticed it last night
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  Speaker 1: on on I was shooting some arrows right at dusk
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  Speaker 1: at my house and I was getting annoyed. I was thinking,
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  Speaker 1: this will last another few days, it'll be over.
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  Speaker 3: You feel that way too.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I don't encounter it in the valley
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  Speaker 2: as much as if I like get near water in
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  Speaker 2: the mountains. That's the worst mosquitoes in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, But again I don't think it's it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't last forever, because as soon as it sort of
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  Speaker 1: starts to get dry, they tend to just, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: beeter out.
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  Speaker 5: And I've got one other thing to mention before before
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  Speaker 5: we move on some housekeeping. We're going through some internet
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  Speaker 5: woes here at those mean HQ. Internet's been dropping out
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  Speaker 5: actually around this time, almost every single day. If the
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  Speaker 5: internet does drop out, and you lose the feed. We
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  Speaker 5: will be back in about two to three minutes, so
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  Speaker 5: don't go anywhere. We're talking to tech people trying trying
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  Speaker 5: to fix it. But if that does happen, the show's
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  Speaker 5: not over. We'll just disappear for about two minutes and
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  Speaker 5: then pop back up.
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  Speaker 2: Phil, you know technology, Why eleven am? Like, what's going
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  Speaker 2: on there?
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  Speaker 5: It's eleven am when technology, I've got no clue. Spencer,
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  Speaker 5: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: No, it should be fixed, though, Phil, we should go Chili.
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  Speaker 5: Chili made some calls and uh and so hopefully hopefully
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  Speaker 5: everything's working well where we're kind of just troubleshooting and
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  Speaker 5: see if it works.
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  Speaker 1: But so far, so good. Let's keep it going and
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  Speaker 1: get everything knocked out. In case it does drop out,
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  Speaker 1: at least we'll get most of the showed none all right,
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  Speaker 1: huge win in Pennsylvania. A statement released by the Pennsylvania
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  Speaker 1: Chapter of Backcountry Hunters and Anglos reads, for over a century,
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  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania hunters have been shut out of the woods for
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  Speaker 1: half the weekend. With the passage of House Bill one
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  Speaker 1: four three to one that can finally change putting decisions
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  Speaker 1: about hunting seasons in the hands of wildlife managers not
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  Speaker 1: outdated blue laws. Since twenty seventeen, Pennsylvania backcountry hunters and
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  Speaker 1: Anglos has led the charge for the long overdue reform.
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  Speaker 1: It's a major win for access, especially for working families
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  Speaker 1: and public land hunters. Yeah, if you were living under
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  Speaker 1: a rock, you could not hunt on Sundays in Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how many years that law has
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  Speaker 1: been around, but a long time. Many generations of Pennsylvania hunters.
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  Speaker 2: So insane that it's just incredibly antiquated that in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five that would still exist. And I felt like
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  Speaker 2: they've been creeping towards this, like they allowed it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know their history totally, but it was like one
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  Speaker 2: Sunday all of a sudden, and then it was like
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  Speaker 2: on private land or so that's right now. It seems
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  Speaker 2: on July first, a few days ago, it reached Governor
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  Speaker 2: Josh Shapiro's desk, and if he signs it, then seems
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  Speaker 2: like Sunday hunting is fully in action in Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 5: Really the only pushback on it, and I only know
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  Speaker 5: this because I just got done editing Cal's podcast that's
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  Speaker 5: dropping on Monday. It's just people other recreation old like
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  Speaker 5: people who don't hunt but are outdoors like hikers being like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna feel unsafe in the woods on Sundays, Like
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  Speaker 5: Sunday has been my safe day to go.
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  Speaker 6: Hiking, and that's that's kind of the only knock that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they will realize that Sunday will still be a
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  Speaker 1: safe day.
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  Speaker 6: I think they will.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chillie got anything to say about that? Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever experience Have you ever hunted in Pennsylvania?
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  Speaker 6: I have not.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the only experience I have with Pennsylvania is
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  Speaker 4: when we did the Meat Eater Live tour and we
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  Speaker 4: just went over to Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh, but like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: never got to explore outside. I want to Seth keeps
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  Speaker 4: talking about white til hunting over there, sounds pretty pilling.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now that we can hunt Sundays, I'm definitely more interested.
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  Speaker 2: We got a Slack message saying the internet is down?
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  Speaker 2: Are you noticing that? Phil?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? No, I'm not.
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  Speaker 6: As far as I can tell.
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  Speaker 5: We're still live, and I think the viewers will let
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  Speaker 5: us know in the chat.
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  Speaker 2: I think Corey's just trying to stir the pot because
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  Speaker 2: he tried to scare us.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Crazy Mountain one hundred exactly three day, three weeks,
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  Speaker 1: one day from today, I'm going to start on my
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  Speaker 1: little endeavor run one hundred miles in a row. I
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  Speaker 1: got forty miles with a bunch of elevation this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm tapering all the way to the finish.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I'm looking at it. You guys know what
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  Speaker 1: taper means. To taper when you're like like getting.
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  Speaker 2: Where it tapers and it gets skinnier at the end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right to me. It's actually the hardest part
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  Speaker 1: of this whole business I've done. This is like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, three or four of these longer distances, and
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  Speaker 1: after this weekend, I'm going to basically be after a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days of rest, I'll be at the peak
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  Speaker 1: sort of you know, performance peak feeling that I'll be
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  Speaker 1: the whole time okay, And your brain's ready to run,
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  Speaker 1: your legs are ready to run, and then you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I have to just chill for two weeks basically and wait,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, the hope is that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: rest some more and just really come into it full,
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  Speaker 1: you know, full, full speed ahead. But Brad is asking
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  Speaker 1: ca this was your first ultra?
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  Speaker 2: Honest?
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  Speaker 6: Is it fifty considered an ultra? It is one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I think I have Googled it once and I was
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  Speaker 1: told we don't google anymore. Now you got to what's
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  Speaker 1: the new thing that you gotta do instead of Google?
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  Speaker 2: GPT?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, chat GPT. But anything over twenty six point two,
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  Speaker 1: So anything over at marathon I think is considered ultra.
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  Speaker 1: So this will be my third I've done two fifties. Sorry, fourth,
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  Speaker 1: I've done a thirty one mile er two fifties, and
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  Speaker 1: they h this will be my first hundred.
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  Speaker 2: How often do you check in with your coach?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, once every two weeks probably, but she, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she has my schedule, training schedule, you know, written out,
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  Speaker 1: usually one.
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  Speaker 3: To two weeks out.
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  Speaker 2: Do you pay her?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I pay her and get a gym membership at
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  Speaker 1: the same time at the Mountain Project.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, how many other people is she coaching for a
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  Speaker 2: run like this?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if she has I know
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  Speaker 1: for sure she has one on one other guy that's
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  Speaker 1: doing one hundred, but I don't know how many total.
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  Speaker 1: So they call him online clients because they have like
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  Speaker 1: in house clients too. But I'm what they call an
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  Speaker 1: online client, so I don't get that much really one
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  Speaker 1: on one time with it. Like, we've never been on
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  Speaker 1: a run together. We've been trying to kind of plan one,
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  Speaker 1: but we've never done it. Okay, all right, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: feeling good. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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  Speaker 1: My goal is to finish.
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  Speaker 2: Look good, looks strong today, Jannie.
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  Speaker 1: Look yeah, well, i'd like to feel I like to
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  Speaker 1: be that way at the end of this race.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: A couple of meat Eater Store highlights. If you're into
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: the Gnome T shirt thing that we got going, We've
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: just released a Gnome angling a Megalodon t shirt, but
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: it's almost sold out, so if you're looking to get one,
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  Speaker 1: get after it. The next Nome T shirt will launch
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: at the end of July's keep your eyes open for that.
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  Speaker 1: The meat Eater Store is having a summer sale July
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  Speaker 1: eight till eleven, and the theme is summer cooking. Some
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  Speaker 1: of the items that are gonna be on sale select
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  Speaker 1: cookbooks twenty five percent off. This is the deal century
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  Speaker 1: right here, bench made meatcraft or two point zero forty
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  Speaker 1: percent off. It's almost half off, Spencer and fire Breather
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  Speaker 1: hot sauces are half off, which I really I really like.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of the cooking like seasoning cooking things.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a huge fan of it as well.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's like got a really nice flavor. H
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  Speaker 2: I feels kind of a hot sauce snob.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say snob. I am reping that. I am
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  Speaker 5: repping a Hook and Arrow hot Sauce shirt today. Shout
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  Speaker 5: out to those guys because the last time I complained
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  Speaker 5: about having to pay for the fire Breather sauce, the
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  Speaker 5: Hook and Arrow guys who are fans of the show
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  Speaker 5: heard me and sent me a bunch of hot sauce.
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  Speaker 5: So thank you to And they've got hot sauce on
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  Speaker 5: hot ones this season. Very exciting last them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh good.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I never thought about how that could be really.
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  Speaker 3: Hot sauce company show on you like that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: When I see clips from that, I wonder, I say, who,
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  Speaker 2: I says to myself, who watches this?
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  Speaker 1: You ever?
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know that's what blows my mind feels.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the most popular on it was great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you see the caliber of people that have Yes, I.
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  Speaker 5: See all the clips from have you not stapped through
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  Speaker 5: like a whole episode though, because it's made really really well,
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  Speaker 5: and Sean asked like some really interesting questions.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I trust you, Phil. Now I'm gonna check out
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  Speaker 2: I see I see the clips online.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And I think the key is is to watch
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  Speaker 1: it all the way through, because you get to see
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  Speaker 1: the progression and just how the two things that interview
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  Speaker 1: and then like the effect of hot Sauce intermingle and
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  Speaker 1: it's just like a weird, wacky idea and they execute
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  Speaker 1: it so well.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen Sean on other shows where he gets interviewed,
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  Speaker 2: and he had talked about famously DJ Khaled did he
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  Speaker 2: have an episode.
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  Speaker 5: One of the first episodes, he chickened out after two
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  Speaker 5: or three hot sauces. I don't remember if he walked
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  Speaker 5: off the set, but basically was just like, no, I'm done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think he had said he ate like
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  Speaker 2: a big ass launch before that and then well and
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  Speaker 2: they like warned him to like do not do that,
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  Speaker 2: and then he did it anyway and just did not
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  Speaker 2: participate hardly that that specific So that would be interested in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if you find it, share it with me please,
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  Speaker 1: all right. Finally, the end of our little chit chat
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  Speaker 1: here up top. Some of you might be wondering, where's Randal,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: How is Randal? What's he up to?
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  Speaker 3: Were you thinking that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you, folks, he's on vacation in Germany,
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  Speaker 1: and today we have our first installment of Randall does Europe.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see the clip bill.
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  Speaker 5: Hello friend, Cerral pal doctor Randall recording live on tape
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  Speaker 5: delay from Europe.
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  Speaker 2: You've got a voice not here. It's a lovely Austrian
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  Speaker 2: treat and I just wanted to give you a quick
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  Speaker 2: update on how my vacation's going. So fall along and
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  Speaker 2: I think you'll enjoy this.
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  Speaker 7: Boop did.
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  Speaker 6: Incredible?
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  Speaker 1: What treasure that man is not a.
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  Speaker 2: Folks who are only listening? That was two minutes of
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  Speaker 2: Randall just eating hot dogs and sausages in Europe.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Cody says that Randall Randall is the most successful
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  Speaker 5: homeless person in history.
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  Speaker 2: I noticed some of those clips he was wearing the
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  Speaker 2: same outfit, so he was he was going double meal
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  Speaker 2: of sausage in some of those days.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's gonna have to five to seven
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  Speaker 5: day recovery period and he comes back.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember he's travel in Europe. So he's
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  Speaker 1: probably wearing the same outfit several days.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then he styled his hair the same he he
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  Speaker 2: did everything the same on those true.
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  Speaker 1: It was funny because we were slacking with Randall and
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  Speaker 1: I think ChIL you asked him, like if he had
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  Speaker 1: hiked those hot dogs up to the top of that mountain?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Well, like, uh, I he texted us that video one
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  Speaker 4: of the little montage he had there, and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: did you hike that thing up there? Because I could
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  Speaker 4: definitely see you packing a hot dog, hiking to the
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  Speaker 4: top of a mountain and then sitting down and eating it.
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  Speaker 4: But now there's like a little little uh stand up there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And his answer was no, Europe is the best place ever.
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  Speaker 1: They just have cabins on top of mountains that serve
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  Speaker 1: beer and sausages.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes me want to go now.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: No, hey, wherever he is, I want to go and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: experience that. That looks delicious.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Does that you have a real sausage culture.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: No, No, they make some sausages.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: There's like dumpling adjacent things.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Perogi's a little bit man, it's uh it's bland food
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: like nice, It's very yeah, like sauer kraut. Giant hunks
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: of pork cooked slow. It's not too exciting. But I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: think also like the same way it was for hunting
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: over there in the hunting traditions, right, like having being
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: you know not Latvia and being occupied for so many years,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Like they kind of just beat that stuff out of you. Right,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: So because you're not allowed to celebrate being a Latvian,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you can't sing your own songs, you can't eat your
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: own food, you can't you know, pray in church in
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: your own language. Right, all that stuff is beaten out
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: of you. And so now they've been free since ninety one,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it's sort of probably like hopefully that stuff will come
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: back around and somebody will find old versions of you know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Latvian food and it'll become a thing again. But it
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: takes time. Man, Like that place is they sort of
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: lose your identity when you're occupied for so long, you know.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: It's on you. You get you got to help do that totally, totally.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Luckily I have peers that are over there and doing that. Okay,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: our next segment is one minute Fishing, Phil, Do I
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: feel lucky?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: We'll do you bunk, go ahead, make my cast. One
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Tony Jackson from Finnchasers USA in North Carolina, and he's
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: fishing for a donation to the Coastal Conservation Association. Tony,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: welcome to the show.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on, guys? Thanks for having me Tony?
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Honest here, it's been Has it been two years or
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: three years since we fish together?
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: I would say it's been at least two it could
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: be three.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of fishing with Tony and uh
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: my father in law, his neighbor, Steve pif First shout
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: out to Steve, who's According to Steve, he's still out
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: there hammering away. Have you seen him lately?
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's still catching fish.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the ripe old age of eighty, multiple back
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: surgeries and he's still he's not letting down. Man.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: He likes to set the hook.
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: Ye, I feel bad for the local panfish population.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Tell me about your day of fishing with Tony. Yanni.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: We were I think pretty much solely targeting redfish, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: we were using cut bait under where we fishing popping corks, Tony,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I believe under popping corks. Yeah, and uh yeah. It
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: was like often it is with redfish. If you're off
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the mark by ten feet with your cast, there's like
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: no bite. But if you put it in the spot, man,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it was a fish almost every single cast. So I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: don't know how many we caught that day, but it
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: was quite a few. How's the fishing been lately out there?
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: Redfish fights just now starting to pick up. It off
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: a little slow for us this year. Typically by May
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: we're wide open and and this year it kind.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: Of they trickled in.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: But the shrimp, the shrimp are pretty thick in the
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: river and this bull of shad and mullet. So what
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: do you what do you think?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: What do you think caused that slow start?
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: I'm not real sure. I know we had a we
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: had a pretty cold winter. We had a big freeze.
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: I don't know if that put a dent into it
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: or if it's just one of those years where that happens.
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: I think it's possibly the freeze, because we did have
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: other areas like out in the Noose River, the bike
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: was a little bit better, so they were a little
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: less impacted. But but here inshore, it's just it was
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: kind of slow.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: But so if someone's out there gonna try to go
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: get into some red fish themselves or anything else, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: guess for that matter in that area, what what would
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you recommend they fish with?
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: But if they wanted to fish with artificial baits, it's
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: hard to hard to pass up a top water I'd
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: rather catch one fish on top water than than in
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: on a soft plastic or live bait. Personally, I'm a
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: big fan of the mirror or top water baits, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: you could kind of get away with with just two.
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: You have the the top puff and then you have
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: the sheep up, the top puff being a quiet version
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: and then the sheep up being very loud.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Tony, is there is there any conventional wisdom about what
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: redfish do like before during after a hurricane? Does the
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: fishing improve or does it get worse? What happens?
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: The fishing definitely improves before and leading right up right
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: up to it, and even during it. If it's not
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: that that as significant of a storm, I think you're
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: following barometric pressure just like any other animal movements.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: It turns them on, assess them on the feed.
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: Now, the post storm, once it goes by, if you
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: have the rise and pressure, it can shut them down.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: But then after it's gone by, been.
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: Passed for a couple of days, I've had some really
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: good experiences.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: So what do we think fishing for today?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: Well, this morning our trip was for red fish. But uh,
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: for my one minute, I'm gonna try to catch any.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Fish, okay, and using what to do it? So cutman Hayden,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: all right, So what what are our possibilities there? When
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you say catch any fish?
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: Uh, pinfish, spot, croaker, possibly red fish.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: This would be the the most likely.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Have you pre fished this spot? Are you feeling pretty confident?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: I haven't pre fished it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: We did fish it this morning and there were a
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: lot of pinfish and crokers here.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Picked up one red fish out of it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: But okay, Tony, well you're one minute of fishing starts
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: when you make that first cast. All right, he's decked
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: out for the fourth of July. I got a red
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: wine and blue hat on. Just look familiar to you, Yanni?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Is this where you went fishing?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Man? Uh, I'm sure it's not too far. Oh, he's
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: got it cast in. Timers started.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: There's no retrieve happening. Oh, he said to he got it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: He We are ten seconds in and he is setting
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the hook on a fish.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Oh video hitch.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Oh he's actually taking drag.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's just for the drama. Does he have to
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: land it in it within a minute as long as
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: you hook up. He took quite the same for the
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: next ten minutes. You'll just sit here and watch him.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I don't see a net appearing. He's gonna swing it
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: into the boat.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Come on? Oh what did he get?
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Of course it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Was the oysters.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we thought he had a fish and it was uh,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: this is stand about ten seconds up.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Here, Come on, Tony, ten seconds let's go. Oh, you
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: just gotta hook him.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: All right, Tony, tell us, tell us what happened there.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: We we couldn't see it very well. What what did
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you reel in?
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: I reiled in an oyster, I cast out and got
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: the pinfish were all over it as soon as it
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: hit the water, and we're pecking away at it, and
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: I set the hook and it it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Jerked back, but it ended up not being a Damn.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: At what point did you know those were oysters on
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: there when you saw him?
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: No, whenever I felt the rod, there was just a heavy,
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: slow pull back.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Damn. One minute fishing again, there was even some drag
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: being taken. We thought we had a big fishing.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those oysters.
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: Will get in the getting the current with the tide
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: and they'll pull back.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, Tony, tell us if if someone wants
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to get out on a charter with you, if they're
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in that Beaufort, North Carolina area, how do they find you?
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: They can find me on Facebook at Fenn Chaser's USA,
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: Instagram at finn Chasers USA, and I have a website
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: It's www dot FANCHASERSUSA dot com and they can reach
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: out to me on my phone.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Two eight seven.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: All right, you got any openings uh coming coming up
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks? I'm going I'm guessing
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you're pretty booked.
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: I am pretty booked the next couple of weeks, but
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: there's some opening sprinkled in all right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Cool?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks for participating, Thanks for the fish and report, Tony.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks Tony, thanks for having me.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I saw some folks in the chant asking if anyone
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: has ever been successful. The answer is yes, Yanni was successful.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: He was also chobving pretty hard.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Oh that's okay, we'll take it for the good conservation.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Pat Dirkin success in Idaho, we had Chester was successful
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: ice fishing in Wisconsin. So it has happened.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: We've got a lot of people in the chat saying
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: that that should get Yeah, says there's there's nothing in
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: the rule book that says it needs to be pelagic.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Shellfish has fish in the name.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know meat either hasn't made a donation for
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: this in a while, so we could probably make that happen.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, votes for your votes for Tony the host.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, let's do it. U five hundred dollars.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: But does anybody remember what he told me? Now?
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: It was it was.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: The Coastal Conservation Association fishing with kids. It was catching
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: for kids, catching for kids, catching for kids.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, we'll have to let him know because he's gone.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, five hundred, Tony. You the chat room says you
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: should win, So we're gonna give it to.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Your It was a live animal that has the word fish.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: The only person that's against it right now is Corey Culkins.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: I you know, get out of here, Corey.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was on the end of the hook on
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: his fishing rod. Five hundred dollars for the shellfish catch,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: going to who.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yanni Catching for Kids.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: And it looks like they are out of that same
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: area of Beaufort, North Carolina and the Crystal Coast there,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and yeah, you can help him out. It looks like
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: they take donations, purchase rod's reels, tackle, they give out
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: like they do like adopt a family for Christmas and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: give out that kind of stuff.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: On that note, some kid would have been very excited
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: to catch that hunk of clams. Oh yeah, because it
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't just one.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: It says right here their goal children spending quality time outdoors,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: enjoying fishing and all the water has to offer. I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: can't say no to that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: That's right, meat eater, can't take it back now.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Five hundred dollars, Corey says. Chat GPT says a shellfish
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: is not a fish. That's more of a reason to
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: stay away from chat Ep.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I wonder where Cory is right now, Probably a river.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: He's just jealous that he's after his embarrassing look on
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: the pond in the back.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: These last few weeks.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: What else we got Phil for listener feedback?
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: It's some feedback here. Let's do it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Titus asks, here's a question for the crew. Which is
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: harder finding a matching set of shed antlers, an antler deadhead,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: or shooting a buck?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: If I were to rank those things, shooting a buck easiest,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: finding an antler deadhead, second easiest finding a matching set
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: of shed antlers third agreed.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: I agree with you.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I've found many of dead heads that have both antlers,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: but as far as matching sets go, I have three.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I think I've never found them. Is your Is your
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin property good for shed? Honey? Some properties are are
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: set up real well.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: In other way they're not. I'm this is This would
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: be a nice segue if we were going right to this.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: But the my oak Savannah supposedly they love dropping their
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: antlers in that tall in that tall grass, so maybe
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: it'll be come that way. I think that we've I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: found one shed this year when I was there turkey hunting.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I would overall say no. Although my dad did find
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: a matching set, it took him over the course of
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a whole year to find the other side, but he
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: did find both sides, and that was that big old
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: giant that you know, just the antlers themselves, no spread.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Credit was.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Like almost one eighty wow, yeah without spread?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah you got to show me these antlers.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have they're in at my dad's house,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: but I can have some pictures.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I can show you.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: One eighty without spread. So if he had an eighteen
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: inch spread, he's almost a two hundred inch year.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a giant. He was. We haven't seen him
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: now for a couple three years.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Who measured this year? You?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I did?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Wow? One eight? How have you not shown me these things?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I figured I have.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I've shown all my whitesel fanatic friends not at all,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: but I guess not you.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: What's what's he got going on? How many points?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: He's actually just a main frame eight? But he's got
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: incredible uh brow times the year that we found the shof.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Main frame eight going one hundred and eighty inches.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean impossible, I mean he's got like you're certain,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I mean he's well. Again, it depends on what counts
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: his main frame and what what you'd count as like
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: an inline sticker, but like, yeah, when you look at him,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh no, he's not a ten point it's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: just like but he looks incredibly massive because he's like
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: his brow times or is probably almost as long as
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: his longest you know, regular times G two and three.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: But he could have ten inches of stickers and that
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: would still be like an unbelievable four by four.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm I'm happy to show you his place, multiple
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: pictures of him.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I am mildly skeptical. Okay, one hundred eighty
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: inches without spread. Okay, I hope you're accurate. It. I
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: hope it's right.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I even went through a scoring app with with the
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: with the buck and uh like a an it, and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I came up with roughly the same answer.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Will asks have you guys ever battered and fried trout
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: file atse? He says, everyone tells him he's crazy to
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I have not.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I have. Uh, they're crazy to think that you can't
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: batter and uh and fry anything out there. I recently
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: heard that, you know, Greece is the great American equalizer.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I love that saying.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Who said that? I don't know where I where I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: picked that up, but uh, yeah, man, I've totally done
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: just straight up deep fried trout nothing wrong with it,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: you know. Just make sure you do a good job
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: getting your getting the uh the bones out of it,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and you'll have a tasty meal.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Now we move on to Spencer's accessory corners. First, Spencer
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: version two point zero asks Spencer, where can I buy
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: that hat?
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: That thing is awesome?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, the meat Eater store them meadeater dot com. Maybe
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: maybe store dot them medeater dot com. This is one
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: of our new offerings. I think our merch has gotten
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: so strong.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's improved tenfold the last couple of years.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: This hat is a good example of that. It's got
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: a bison on it. Yanni said, this is what the
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: cool kids wearing now, these hats.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: The little rope on it kind of sits a little
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: bit high. Yeah, I don't really like the way they
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: fit on me. But Laura Mascari, I believe that's how
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: you say her name, was running our merch program these days.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: She said, it made me look young. So here I
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: am again.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: There you go. I think of our of our improved
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: merch offerings, hat is at the top of the list,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: and we all three have some of our new hats
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: on today.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: The second question in the Spencer accessory corner comes from Mogor. Yeah, Spencer,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: my girlfriend says, you've got the coolest notebook sticker she's
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: ever seen.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, she.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Thinks Teddy was the greatest president of all time. I
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: think you can let Mogor know where people can get.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: That seth Morris. His wife is an artist, Kelsey, and
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: she sells a variety of stickers and prints on her website.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not certain what that is, but that sticker is
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: one of Kelsey's stickers. I think we even sell them
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: in our brick and mortar Meat Eater store in Bozeman.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: So if you type in I think it's.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Like I've seen him there, Kay Ray Art.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Something like that. That is where you could get that sticker.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: Let's see.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Now, we don't have Meat Eater menu on the on
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: the docket today, but Freddie Rick and the Mons asks
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: just what you guys have been cooking wild game dishes?
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: You've been cooking?
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I got a hot answer for you.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Recently did a my first ever Beria dish and I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: just used a bunch of like neck shanks and lots
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of lots of learn from this, you know, Renelle and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I always go back and forth, because he still likes
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: to grind, like the stuff that has all the sin
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: you meet in it. And I just think that's crazy
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: because then you have to eat a burger and you
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: got to pick stuff out of your teeth, and that
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: stuff doesn't do you get any good in the burger.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: But where it does do you so much good is
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: in a dish like beria, which basically it's very simple.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I use the New York Times cooking app. I think
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: we have a version of it on the meat eater.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: But I just chunked up the neck and these shanks
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: into I don't know, two to three inch pieces. Did
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: it very quick, brine in just water with a half
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: cup of vinegar and some salt.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: You do that for thirty minutes, and it's amazing how
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: much that actually changes sort of the feel and texture
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: of the meat. Then put it into a slow braising
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: pot like Dutch oven style, cover it with cold water
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and again a little bit of salts.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any spices yet.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: You let that roll for like two hours until it
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: starts to cook down. As that's going you rehydrate some
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: chili peppers. I forget exactly what kind but not too
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: spicy coheo maybe or something like that. Once they're rehydrated,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you take them and a cup of the water you
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: used to rehydrate, put them in your blender, buzz it
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: up until you just get this like saucy pasty thing.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Dump that into the brazing liquid and basically just let
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: it cook until it's shredable, and then you serve it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: You actually take the meat out of the broth, well
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: it's still warm, season it, salt and pepper, and then
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: corn tortillas, lots of white onion cilantro. That's the basic.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: You can just leave it as is, but then I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: also did some pineapple chunks on there. We had some
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: of that cotilla cheese, and then you make your taco,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: and the reci be said to actually eat the taco
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and then chase it with the broth.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: But what we started.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Doing is actually doing like almost a French French dip style, yeah,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and taking that taco and dunking it in that cup
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and absolutely delicious. My wife mind made a pot last
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: week and I think we've had that for dinner four
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: out of the last five nights.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: No kids around though, to review it. No kids around,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: are you cooking differently now that your girls are off
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: at camp for a little while. Oh oh, tell me
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: what's different?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Well, just that that we just we ate the same
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: dinner four out of five nights.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Girls would not They wouldn't let that fly.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: You know what, I don't know, because I don't think
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: we've ever tried them.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: But I just feel compelled to cook them different foods
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and do like different dinners every night. I mean, I
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: don't know. I usually make enough to have a leftover
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: a few nights later, but never like four out of five,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: like I'm rolling with right now. But it's just very simple.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: We're not like sitting a lot of times. We're just
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: sitting there in the kitchen is standing and eating so
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: that we can just like clean up real fast and
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: get back to whatever we're doing.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I made elksteaks last night. I love summer grilling weather,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: so we had those on the camp chef with some
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: tatoes and asparagus.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: What cut did you make those out of?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: That was? I don't remember what it was. I don't
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: recall now. I pulled it out of the freezer like
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: a week ago and then instantly put them into a
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: ziploc bag. So I don't even recall.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Was it like a whole muscle and you cut it
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: up into steak?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: No, these were already steaked by our friend Anna Borgman.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Anna did this specifically for me,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: because she knows my family size is just me and
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: my wife. But I got very petite sized portions of
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: steaks and roasts, and I really appreciated that. Maybe she
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: does that for everyone, but I imagine if you're like
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a family of five and she knows that that you'd get,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you know, six steaks in one of your packages instead
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: of mine. Came to at a time. I really liked that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I felt like I was getting some boutique butchery by
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Anna there, which you are, Yes, that's right.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: How is that bully eating overall? Oh?
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: Very good?
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got no no issues with it. My favorite
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: thing what makes me more motivated to kill more elk
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: are just the sizes of the roast. I'm so used
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: to working with deer that you know, are one hundred
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: and sixty pounds or whatever, and I'm just like, very
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: familiar with all the steaks and roasts that you get
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: from that. But the size of the steaks and the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: ROAs off and Elk. It's very different, very fun to
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: work with. I like that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: All right, we'll do one more question then we'll move
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: along here. Ohn x eighty two says Phil Horder. Alliance.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: The answer is Alliance. Shout out to my night elf
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Druid and my human warrior Crentist.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: I missed you guys. All right, that's it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: And then to circle back to the sticker, it is
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: kay Artworks dot com. That's k r a e Artworks
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: dot Com and she has that sticker there.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Thanks for that, Spencer.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: All right, our next segment is fake news Shop.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: He talk gay balloon about better shot Thangondes.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: So where is that? So this opportunity comes weeks.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: You can do anything you set your minds to.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: You guys, does the general public know that it is
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: you that is singing those songs?
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: I believe.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: So now we actually got Eminem to do that, right,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: he's such a big fan, being from Michigan and all
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: he said, I could do this.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: That's where the entire podcast budget went to this year.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: All right. Fake news is where I read a series
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: of headlines in which a real one is hiding among
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: three impostors. Your job is to figure out which one
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: is true. So grab your white board, Yanni, grab your whiteboard, Chili,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: don't be cheating looking at my just headlines, Just headlines.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: The first headline. Why scientists are horrified by the world's
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: first blank farm. Is it octopus, panda, mosquito or crocodile?
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Why scientists are horrified by the world's first octopus farm.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Why scientists are horrified by the world's first panda farm.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Why scientists are horrified by the world's first mosquito farm.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Why scientists are horrified by the world's first crocodile farm.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: One of those is real, the other three are fake.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Chili very quick to answer. It's almost as though you
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: know it. You know it, Chili. No, the first time
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing this question.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't catch this in the news either, but I.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Have a good train of thought as to why I
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: think this is right. Why scientists are horrified by the
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: world's first blank farm. Octopus, panda, mosquito, crocodile. I'm ready, boy,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: it's ready. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Giannis saying mosquito farm, we have Chili saying octopus farm.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: One of you is right. The correct answer is octopus.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Why scientists are horrified by the world's first octopus farm.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: That headline was from veg Out on July second, twenty
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: twenty five. The Spanish seafood giant Neueva Pescanova is currently
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: working on the world's first commercial octopus farm. Animal activists
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: are flatly against the operation, especially since the octopi are
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: killed by getting dumped into tanks of ice water, where
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: they slowly freeze to death. This has captured the attention
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: of American lawmakers, who are working on legislation that would
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: ban commercial octopus farming in the United States. Senators from
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Rhode Island and Alaska are drafting the bill, saying, quote,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: science has shown that octopuses are sentient, emotionally complex animals,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: and the conditions required to farm them are inherently cruel
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and incompatible with their basic needs. Have you ever eaten octopus? Yani?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not what we were geted at.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: You have not.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I've just never had the opportunity. I haven't turned down.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I mean you could order it anytime you go to
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a sushiet joint. Usually it really yeah.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what how have you eaten your octopus? You
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: like it?
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I've had that.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I've had it at a Shoese sushie joints, probably a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: couple of different ways, but uh, I think in the
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: end it's probably always cooked somewhat similarly where you know
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: it's it can be tough and so it has to
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: have sort of the tenderness beaten into it. But I
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: think it's usually served cold. You know, when you do
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it over like nageey, you know, over rice.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: You know you're eating octopus when you're served octopus.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, looks and it's still like octopus. Yeah, chili.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Do you have an octopus review?
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a documentary out there called My Octopus Teacher,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: and it's on Netflix. And that's kind of like where
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: like as soon as the question popped up, that's where
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: my head was, and there's a lot of good information
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: about it, Like octopus are a lot more, I mean,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: there's much more to them.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: And have you eaten it?
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Though?
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Have I eaten it?
• 44:02
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's what we're talking about.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: No, I'm fine with farm and all sorts of stuff
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: that makes it to our dinner plate. But you know what,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I'd maybe side with the animal activists here that octopi.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: We could just leave alone, let them do their own thing.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: That's fine?
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: But I would ask you then, is it still okay
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to then just you know, drag them up out of
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the depths or grab them out of their little hole.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm not passionate about this. I haven't thought a
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: lot about it. I would say, as of now. You
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: can ask me tomorrow against octopi farming for harvesting octopus
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: in the wild, though that's my stance, official stance as
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: of today.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I can get down with that. I'd have
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: to read into it a little bit more.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: But Phil, you love eating octopus?
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: I think I swear I have, but I can't remember
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: when or where. So this is a I shouldn't have
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: even said anything.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Yanni was making me feel bad for me never having
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: it in Alaska.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Smoke it often and then preserve it. Is how I've
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: had it a lot too. It's delicious, all.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Right, headline too. It's the end of an era. The
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: US National Parks prepared to ban blank is it glass, horses,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: skateboards or cash. It's the end of an era. The
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: US National Parks prepared to ban glass. It's the end
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: of an era. The US National Parks prepared to ban horses.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: It's the end of an era. The US National Parks
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: prepared to ban skateboards. Or it's the end of an era.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: The US National Parks prepared to ban cash.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Our part producer Jake just popped into our private chat
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: here and said he's eating live octopus.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Who I don't know how that works.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: They must have been small, right.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: Let us know, Jake. We'll update the audience.
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: WHOA.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Our players are slower to answer this time. Chile got
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: that first question right.
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: I did not have an answer.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: It's the end of an era. The US National Parks
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: prepared to ban Is it glass, horses, skateboards or cash?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I see I could four yea correct?
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Okayel like the beginning of this question, it's the end
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: of an era. So it has to be something that okay,
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: has been around for a long time.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: All four of those things have been around for a while.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Well, I know they've been around, but like it's like
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: something that's like it'll be shocking once it goes away.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Are you boys ready?
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I'm ready go ahead and reveal your answers.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: We have Yannis saying horses and Chili saying horses, you're
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: both wrong.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: No guest cash, skateboards.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Cash is correct. It's the end of an era. The
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: US National Parks prepared to ban cash. This headline was
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: from the Travel on July second, twenty twenty five. The
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: National Park Service has been slowly moving toward card only
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: for a few years and plans to be totally cashless soon,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and PS says it's been quote an overwhelmingly positive experience
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: for both visitors and employers so far. They claim it
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: reduces transaction time at entrances, creates fewer accounting errors, and
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: lessens the risk of theft. Critics say this will directly
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: impact international visitors who want to avoid overseas card fees,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: as well as youth who don't have their own bank accounts.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Some senators are pushing back on the new policy, questioning
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: how the federal government can legally refuse currency that was
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: created by the federal government. You both seem like cash
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: guys to me. I bet Yanni's got like sixty dollars
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: in cash on him right now? Or Chili Chilly, I
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: bet you got sixty dollars in cash?
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got ten on me.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: And then I think I've probably got a couple of
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: twenties out in the car. I do like to have
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit around, but man, it's just becoming like
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: you used to always use that emergency cash, and now
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like those twenties in the car they maybe
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: have been there for years. My dad's gonna be upset
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: because he's a cash cash Yeah, Like we go through this.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: How many national parks does he go to that?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Not that much? No, No, but I think just in
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: uh in what am I trying to say? Like the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: idea of it, right, He's not gonna be into it.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: We go through this at hunting camp every year. He's
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the guy that pays for the lodging and then has
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: to collect the money from the rest of the group,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: and so there's cash. Yeah, And I'm like, dude, if
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: you had Venmo, all the money would already be in
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: your bank account. Instead you have to deal with this
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: and like add and subtract and it's just yeah, you know, lately,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I'm a late adopter, I think, but I've really come
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to embrace and love the Apple wallet.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it is convenient. I think at first it
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: wasn't because not enough places would accept it. But now
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: it's like almost universal. So smooth, so smooth chili. What
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: are you doing with all that cash on you?
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: You know, I just I kind of say, like when
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: I go on trips, it's like good to have some
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: cash so you can, like I don't know, spend it
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: on stuff that like souvenirs whatever.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: It's free money at that point, right, Yeah, you're not
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: spending your own money. Yeah, no, for sure. Do you
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: guys still have the change jars?
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: Is that a thing still?
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: There's one in my house, but it does it's not
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: filling up anymore, stagnant.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: I have one that I always go and do the
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: change exchange thing, walk away with about one hundred bucks go.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I like to keep some cash in like my tackle
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: box in case something were to happen while I'm fishing
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: where I need help from a fellow angler came in
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: handy one time. I helped out a guy one time
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: and I jumped his pickup for him, and then I
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: kept that twenty in my tackle box until I had
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: to use it. Like four years later, I got stuck
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: into snow dripped ice fishing and someone came and pulled
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: me out out. So it's like the Brotherhood of the
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: traveling twenty dollars bill. At this point, there's only one
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: thing I use cash for anymore. That's it. Headline three.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Florida fisherman is charged in shark blank? Is it robbery,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: meat fraud, stabbing or drug smuggling? Florida fisherman is charged
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: in shark robbery. Florida fisherman is charged in shark meat fraud.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Florida fisherman is charged in shark stabbing. Florida fisherman is
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: charged in shark drug smuggling.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I'm liking this version of it, but when you first
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: explained the game to me, I thought that you were
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: going to have just three completely different headlines.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, and one of them was going.
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: To be real.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: No, we're just swapping out or one was going to
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: be the imposter. Florida fisherman is charged in shark Is
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: it robbery, meat fraud, stabbing or drug smuggling? You both
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: got question two wrong, only Chili got question one right.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Are you ready?
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: I'm ready?
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and reveal your answers we have. We have
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Giannis saying meat fraud and Chili saying stabbing. Correct answer.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like that stabbing is what a Florida person
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: might do is stabbing?
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: You got.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: That from the Old Games is stabbing Chili?
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Got two of these right. This headline was from the
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: New York Times on June sixth, twenty twenty five. It's
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: about Zaane Garrett, a charter fisherman who is being charged
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: with animal cruelty. The twenty six year old was shown
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: in a viral video repeatedly stabbing a shark and then
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: cutting the line. The Florida man told authorities that it
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: was revenge for the shark stealing his fish. His business's website,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Second Nature Charters, says quote with captain saying at the helm,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: every fishing excursion becomes an unforgettable journey filled with camaraderie.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the next word is I wrote
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: down and most importantly, epic catches that will be cherished
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: for a lifetime. This comes just one month after a
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: different Florida fishing guide sorry it was sentenced to thirty
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: days in jail for shooting and poisoning dolphins was Florida man.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Meat fraud has been in the news lately. One example, specifically,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: you know seafood meat fraud.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going to try to get a future guest
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: to talk about in South Carolina? Is this what you're
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: referring to.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I thought that it was West Coast where I had
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: read about it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: What I'm referring to is in South Carolina. They sort
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: of just did a big sting operation with a DNA
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: tested all the shrimp in these businesses that were saying
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: they're selling locally caught shrimp, and they identified I think
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: it was twenty five places, which is a crapload that
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: the DNA showed those shrimp came from overseas, from like
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: farms and time, because.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: The local shrimp is so much more expensive.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that bothered me a lot when I saw that.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: That would bum me out when I go somewhere and
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: it like elevates the experience thinking I'm eating one thing
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: and then to find out it's just shrimp that came
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: from costco What a bummer. Future episode, We're going to
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: interview somebody about that, that shrimp fraud. Putting it out
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: there right now?
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Do it? All right?
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: That's the end of fake news. Chili is a big
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: winner today.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Good job, Chili, Thank you, thank you. Now knowledge of
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: current events there all right. We saved the best for last.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Just kidding second to best because Randall obviously stole the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: show today. But we're now going to chat with Jacob
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Hernandez Hernandez, private lands biologists for the US Fish and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Wildlife Services Partners for Fish and Life Program, and his
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: colleague Bo Hendrickson, a habitat restoration technician that works for
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Golden Sands Resource conservation and development.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Man, it's a mouthful.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: The two of them have been helping me execute the
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: oak savanna project on our land in Wisconsin. Jacob and Bo,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
• 54:21
  Speaker 11: Hey, how are you guys doing.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: We're doing great. Not standing outside in a soon to
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: be oak savannah like you guys though, so I'm jealous
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah. It's a bit warm out today, but otherwise we're
• 54:34
  Speaker 11: doing all right.
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: It's nice.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a nice day. What is the
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: temp it's been hot there lately.
• 54:41
  Speaker 11: Eighty seven?
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, that's not too bad at all, unless the
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: humidity is ninety seven then it could be. It could
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: be bad, but it looks like you guys are enjoying.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: You guys are enjoying the shade of one of my
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: oak trees that are left standing. Huh, you bet smart. Yeah,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: we are all right, tell me about the program the
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: you two help administer, and then sort of explain how
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that program is, you know, working the project that you
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: guys are helping my dad and I with.
• 55:14
  Speaker 12: Yeah, So, our program is the Partners for Fish and
• 55:17
  Speaker 12: Wildlife program, like Yoanni introduced. We're with the US Fish
• 55:20
  Speaker 12: and Wildlife Service, or specifically I am with that program.
• 55:23
  Speaker 12: And our program was designed or born out of the
• 55:27
  Speaker 12: late eighties under the National Wildlife Refuge System. And our
• 55:30
  Speaker 12: program is designed to help private landowners. So we defined
• 55:33
  Speaker 12: private landowners as anything non state or federal owned, so
• 55:37
  Speaker 12: city county land obviously our biggest bread and butter is
• 55:40
  Speaker 12: private landowners. We can help with this with these restoration
• 55:45
  Speaker 12: projects via cast share and technical assistance. We also have
• 55:49
  Speaker 12: several partners that we work with collaboratively to try to
• 55:52
  Speaker 12: implement those those restoration projects. And I'll let Bo talk
• 55:56
  Speaker 12: a little bit more specifically about the project here that
• 55:58
  Speaker 12: we're working on with you.
• 56:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah. So, if my memory jogs me right, Giannus reached
• 56:03
  Speaker 9: out to us.
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: So a lot of landowners approach us with these potential
• 56:08
  Speaker 10: projects to invite us out onto the property to do
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: a site visit. So we came out checked out the
• 56:13
  Speaker 10: site before we came out here. We actually did a
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: little bit of homework looking up in the nineteen thirty
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: seven aerial photos that are posted for Wisconsin, so that
• 56:22
  Speaker 10: this specific area that we're working in here was a
• 56:25
  Speaker 10: little bit more open growing, a little bit less tree density,
• 56:28
  Speaker 10: not agriculture, and kind of gave us the signs of
• 56:31
  Speaker 10: an oak savannah remnants or potential for an oak savannah remnant.
• 56:35
  Speaker 10: And so that's pretty much exactly what we're doing out here,
• 56:38
  Speaker 10: trying to restore an oak savannah. This area historically was
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: a mix of you know, brush oaks savannah's prairies back
• 56:45
  Speaker 10: when the indigenous people were here, and so we're just
• 56:48
  Speaker 10: trying to restore the native habitat back to that time
• 56:51
  Speaker 10: to benefit you know, the wildlife species that are out here.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: All right, So take me through the timeline, which I
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: gotta say, people have asked ask me how how like
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: how efficient this process has been, And out of all
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the work that I've been doing out there, you get
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: your project specifically has been like the most efficient and
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: like we've been moving extremely fast, which has been awesome
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: to see because a lot of this stuff just takes forever.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: But take me through this sort of the timeline and
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: the different steps and take us up to present day.
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, we appreciate the kudos on that.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 57:24
  Speaker 12: We're a pretty small and nimble program, and so we
• 57:27
  Speaker 12: are pretty flexible and kind of act pretty quickly when
• 57:29
  Speaker 12: the situation presents itself. But like Bo said, Yanni had
• 57:32
  Speaker 12: gotten a hold of us about a year ago. Logging
• 57:34
  Speaker 12: operations were happening. So there was timber being cut hauled
• 57:38
  Speaker 12: off deck to the whole nine yards and we came
• 57:40
  Speaker 12: in and it was the property was covered in in
• 57:43
  Speaker 12: timber slash. So when we had the area identified, the
• 57:46
  Speaker 12: unit identified, you know, we got a hold of Yannis,
• 57:49
  Speaker 12: made sure we had all the objectives correct and everything
• 57:51
  Speaker 12: like that, and then our first step was, okay, if
• 57:53
  Speaker 12: we're gonna seed this thing down to a more herbaceous
• 57:56
  Speaker 12: understory cover kind of like a you know, in a
• 57:58
  Speaker 12: o Savannah, we needed to get some of that timber
• 58:01
  Speaker 12: slash cleaned up.
• 58:02
  Speaker 11: So we had a contractor come out.
• 58:04
  Speaker 12: We hired him, worked through that process, oversaw those operations.
• 58:08
  Speaker 12: Especially because yanis being an absentee landowner, it's kind of
• 58:11
  Speaker 12: something we can help with. Obviously from a technical standpoint,
• 58:14
  Speaker 12: oversaw that operation, got it everything piled and cleaned up,
• 58:18
  Speaker 12: and then it's kind of a waiting game to see
• 58:19
  Speaker 12: what comes back on that. In that seed bed, we
• 58:22
  Speaker 12: saw a host of species coming back, some good, some
• 58:26
  Speaker 12: less desirable, incredibly nothing, insanely wild. A lot of times
• 58:30
  Speaker 12: when we do that, it could be a flush of
• 58:31
  Speaker 12: buckthorn or multi floor rows, or several other invasive species
• 58:36
  Speaker 12: that we see across the site.
• 58:37
  Speaker 11: So it wasn't too bad in that regard.
• 58:39
  Speaker 12: At that point, we then said, Okay, we're gonna we're
• 58:42
  Speaker 12: gonna prescribe herbicide application. We have some limitations out here
• 58:46
  Speaker 12: with stumps and the tree stems that still exist, so
• 58:48
  Speaker 12: we're kind of limited on like mechanical treatments and stuff.
• 58:51
  Speaker 12: So herbicide was our best go to tool. I know
• 58:54
  Speaker 12: it's not always the most popular treatment, and we try
• 58:57
  Speaker 12: to work with individual landowners based on those objectives accordingly,
• 59:00
  Speaker 12: but in this scenario, we agreed.
• 59:02
  Speaker 11: That herbicide was the right option.
• 59:04
  Speaker 12: So we prescribed gleco state and two four D and
• 59:08
  Speaker 12: when used correctly, following all safety, following timing, all that
• 59:12
  Speaker 12: kind of stuff, we can get a good general kill
• 59:13
  Speaker 12: on this what we're seeing today is that that there's
• 59:17
  Speaker 12: a kill out here from a from a spray that
• 59:20
  Speaker 12: was done about two weeks ago or so. There are
• 59:23
  Speaker 12: some misspots, but that happens, not the end of the world.
• 59:26
  Speaker 12: We'll come back and do one more treatment towards the
• 59:28
  Speaker 12: end of the summer and then hopefully that's that's the
• 59:30
  Speaker 12: means to the end there there there will hopefully be
• 59:32
  Speaker 12: no more spraying or if so, be very limited and
• 59:34
  Speaker 12: very targeted.
• 59:35
  Speaker 11: And the idea is we're setting our native.
• 59:37
  Speaker 12: Species up that we plan to plant this fall or
• 59:39
  Speaker 12: winter for the most success with the least competition as
• 59:43
  Speaker 12: they get going.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, so my neighbor and I, I was there two
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. My neighbor and I did the spraying on
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: a scale one to ten. How good of a job
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: do we do as as herbicide applicators.
• 59:59
  Speaker 9: There's always gonna be misses.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 10: You know, nobody can get it all in the first rounds.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 9: I'd probably say, you know, between an eight and nine.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 10: Hey, just about I'm gonna cross the board though. That's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: what you get with especially with these stumps. A little
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 10: bit of uneven topography from that logging operation, leaving some
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 10: ruts and locations kind of made it probably a little
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: bit difficult for you to do, you know, a full
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 10: complete application here.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 9: That's why people always.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 10: Just come back out and you know, reapply. The spots
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 10: that you missed are really easy to see and so
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 10: you can just touch those up at a later time.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Do you guys feel like the touch up can be
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: done with a backpack sprayer or is it gonna take
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: another round of driving around on the ATV.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 12: It only looked like there was maybe one or two
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 12: small strips, And honestly, we don't need one hundred percent
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 12: burned down to the ideas just to reduce competition. So
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 12: you know, in my opinion, I think the second round
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 12: of application that we do later in the fall, targeting
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 12: some of the woody species that are out here, I
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 12: think that's gonna take care of it. And I think
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 12: you guys will be set up really good. We'll still
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 12: have enough seedbed exposed for us to broadcast seed and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 12: get good seed to soil contact for the winner to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 12: do its work with freestyle actions. So yeah, I mean,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 12: there's no need to do more than we need to do, right,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 12: So I think one more treatment as planned at the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 12: end of the season, and we should be in good shape.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Right right, Okay, So I think a lot of people,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: including myself, when I first heard about this program, are
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: sort of wondering like, well, why would the American government
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: spend taxpayer money to be doing this kind of work
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: on private lands. Tell me a little bit, like how
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: does it benefit just like the taxpayer that is probably
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: never going to get to step foot on that lamb.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: So the program, you know as a cost share program,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 10: So we're putting, you know, the American taxpayer's dollar back
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: into habitat, trying to improve habitat. Our programs designed around
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 10: trust species, federal trust species that are and endangered, declining
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 10: in population. That's our big focus out here. And so
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 10: all that you know, the taxpayer dollars that's going you know,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 10: back into the ground trying to improve the habitat for
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: local wildlife and also migratory birds, you know, any wildlife
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 10: I guess in the area. Also, you know, it's really
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 10: great we try and use local contractors to boost the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 10: local economy out here. A lot of the areas that
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 10: we're working in is rural Wisconsin, and so we try
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 10: and find ways to boost that local economy, find ways
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 10: to fit in with the community, sometimes we'll have community
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 10: fire departments help us out on these properties. So we're
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: trying to find a way to almost you know, kind
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 10: of get back to these local communities and support financially
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: with them and also collaborate with them such as fire
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 10: departments and other partners that we use out here.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 9: So all in all, it all goes back to good
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 9: habitat just.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 10: To improve you know, a better climate, resilient habitat out
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: here versus just a bunch of invasives that you know,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: it's kind of degrading for the wildlife species that we see.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 12: I think I would just add clean water, healthy soil,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 12: local healthy ecosystems, as you mentioned, carbon sequestration, right, all
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 12: of those really great things that occur with healthy, healthy ecosystems.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 12: That's what the American public has benefit on with with
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 12: the help here.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, obviously I'm way interested in the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: what the habitat is going to do for deer and turkey,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: But tell me from your viewpoint, like what other what
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: sort of special species are you guys hoping to help
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: out with this and possibly like us, being able to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: get to see in the coming years from this work
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: that we're doing.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah, So like I mentioned earlier, kind of designed around
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: those threatening federal federally endangered species out here. We're actually
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 10: in a high potential range for the federally endangered carner
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 10: blue butterfly, also the rusty patch bumblebee. So you know,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 10: might not be number one hitters that people think of,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 10: you know, but they're very important to us in our program,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 10: and so we're hoping to see some of those. We've
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: already seen some monarchs out here using the property when
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 10: we're about doing sight assessments and monitoring to kind of
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: check in on the project. Outside of that, you know,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 10: migratory birds are gonna hopefully be using this redheaded woodpeckers,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 10: a species of concern for us. We're hoping to see
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: a couple of those out here. We leave dead standing
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: snags to kind of provide that wildlife habitat for them.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 10: So across the board, we're trying to hit a whole spectrum,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 10: whether it's the pollinators, the birds, the deer, the turkey.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 10: All in all, our program is driven towards those threatening
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 10: and endangered species, but we recognize and understand that a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 10: lot of these projects that we do are going to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 10: benefit that local wildlife such as the deer, the turkey, bear, grouse,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 10: you name it.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 9: It's just kind of a whole umbrella restoration here.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: We're kind of just directing it towards one thing, but
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 10: understand and know that those other species are definitely gonna
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 10: be being benefiting from it.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: What kind of upkeep is going to be involved for Giannis?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Is this a place that he's going to need to
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: mess with next year and five years from now and
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: ten years from now.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 12: Yeah, habitat restoration is definitely not something that happens overnight.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 12: I mean, we've we've let these ecosystems slide into invasive species,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 12: peril and and unchecked systems for hundreds of years. So
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 12: it's definitely not something that happens overnight.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 12: Future management will likely include prescribed fire. That's not an
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 12: option for everybody always, so there are other alternatives, sometimes mowing,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 12: spot mowing, some stuff like that to try to keep things,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 12: keep things in check, but prescribe fire is going to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 12: be a big one. Spot spraying might be required depending
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 12: on how the system responds, but the hope is that, honestly,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 12: the biggest maintenance tool going forward on the you know,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 12: three to six year return fire return interval would be
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 12: would be prescribed fire. Part of what we did with
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 12: this project was and Yannis, to his credit, was very
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 12: adamant that we made sure that we accounted for, you know,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 12: some of the trail systems being considered as as burned breaks,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 12: so which is a huge thing. So that'll help with
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 12: implementation of that prescribe fire.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and I'll add to that. The prescribed fire. It's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 10: a great tool because that kind of helps reduce that
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 10: need for herbicide out here, you know, in terms of
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 10: long term, so you know, that's going to cut down
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 10: on your woody invasives that might be coming in. It's
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 10: going to help rejuvenate that prairie or the oak savanna,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 10: kind of clean up the thatch a little bit. As
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 10: you know obviously we have snow here in Wisconsin. Things
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 10: lay down, gets madded down over time, kind of makes
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 10: it harder over a long term for those seats to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 10: kind of work their way into the soil and keep
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: expressing themselves within the prairie, which then kind of turns
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 10: away from the wildlife benefit that we're trying to provide
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: out here. So all in all, it does you know
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 10: a number I guess of wonders for us out here.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: And that's why, Jacob, you know, we're kind of hitting
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: on it so hard, just because it really helps reduce
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 10: that herbicide use, rejuvenates it and just you know, keeps
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: the habitat what it is.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Awesome.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys, You appreciate you guys taking the time. I'll
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: look forward to reading the report today and hearing the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: follow up later. But thank you again. And oh, I
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: guess if anyone's interested in doing this on their own
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: property or just wanting to find out more about this program,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: how do they do that?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 12: I would suggest people just google the US Fish and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 12: Wildlife Service Partners for Fish and Wildlife program. You'll find
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 12: the state that you're located in, and typically there's a
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 12: content point of contacts. Typically it's our state coordinators or
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 12: someone acting in that role, and they'll get you in
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 12: touch with the local biologists that would service you know,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 12: your counties or your area. When you do touch base
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 12: with them, obviously contact information, property description, kind of your
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 12: habitat objectives. That kind of stuff helps streamline some of
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 12: that communication and keep us moving at.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 11: A pretty quick pace.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 12: Alternatively, your your local conservation departments, your nonprofits, natural Resource
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 12: Conservation Service, Farm Service Agency. All those folks are collaborators
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  Speaker 12: that would know about us and can refer us to.
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  Speaker 12: But word of mouth is how we is how we
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  Speaker 12: spread our names. So yeah, hopefully, hopefully we get some calls.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I love it, man, This gets me fired up.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Jake, Thanks Paul. We'll talk to you guys soon.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, take care, guys.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that gets me super excited just because I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm into it. I'm in the rabbit hole and they
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  Speaker 1: just sort of like they just mix me up in
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: the mud down there and get me all fired up.
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  Speaker 1: Does that at all interest you, guys? Like that's hearing
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  Speaker 1: about doing that kind of work.
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  Speaker 2: The the prospects of me owning a property are so
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  Speaker 2: distant that it interests me less because I'm jealous of
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  Speaker 2: you that you get to make those decisions and participate
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  Speaker 2: in those things.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well you're invited though, so you might get
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to go hunt that oak savannas.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I like that Makila do there? Yeah? See all
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  Speaker 2: them them pretty endangered butterflies.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, that's my like. Would be the best thing
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  Speaker 1: ever is if I could be there one summer and
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  Speaker 1: show my girls the monarch butterfly, and so because I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if they've actually seen one yet. And I
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  Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a lot of a lot of kids. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of kids that
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  Speaker 1: are in that age right now, you know whatever, fifteen
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  Speaker 1: and under that will maybe never see a monarch.
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  Speaker 3: Butterfly in their lives. That sounds insane, right, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a terrible thing to think about.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why I'm pumped on this is maybe we'll
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  Speaker 1: just give them a little bit longer shot a keep
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  Speaker 1: sticking around.
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  Speaker 2: I liked your question about why the government would like
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  Speaker 2: spend money or like, you know, take a haircut on
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  Speaker 2: helping out a private landowner like you. It's like not
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  Speaker 2: a new concept at all. Where Chile and I grew
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  Speaker 2: up in the Great Plains, there was the Great Shelter
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  Speaker 2: Belt Project, which restored all kinds of habitat and created
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of new habitat CRP. That's one of the
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  Speaker 2: biggest programs in the Great Plains. And wildlife don't know borders,
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  Speaker 2: they don't care if it's public or private. It benefits everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, especially you know, and you can read this
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  Speaker 1: on their website. Right east of the Mississippi, it's like
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  Speaker 1: eighty percent of the land is private. So if you
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  Speaker 1: don't have people doing this kind of stuff on that
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  Speaker 1: amount of land, those little public vestiges just they can't
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  Speaker 1: do it on their own, right, It's got to be
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  Speaker 1: a bigger ecosystem. All right, Phil, let's wrap it up
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  Speaker 1: with a few more questions.
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  Speaker 5: Or I don't know if you have an answer to this,
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  Speaker 5: or if this even would have been a good question
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  Speaker 5: for Jacob or Bow. But Kevin Morse asks, how do
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  Speaker 5: you stop deer from eating the good tree tops after logging,
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  Speaker 5: leaving nothing but less desirable underbrush. We're having that issue
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  Speaker 5: on our lodge property.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Kevin's asking when he says the good
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  Speaker 1: tree tops meaning like probably new growth of young, desirable
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  Speaker 1: trees as they want to keep. Yeah, we haven't had
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  Speaker 1: that problem yet because we're going to such a flush
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  Speaker 1: of the desirable trees that there's enough and our deer
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  Speaker 1: population is low enough that they're not hammering them. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they do nibble on them, but in places like that
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  Speaker 1: where you have to go to more extreme measures. I've
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  Speaker 1: been reading up on it. Ah, it's a lot. You
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: can you can basically cage them out. You can, there's
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  Speaker 1: people have done fencing literally. There's also a thing that
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  Speaker 1: after you've done the logging, you can use the logging
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  Speaker 1: slash slash itself to build basically a perimeter around certain
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: zones and those will keep the deer out. But again,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: it takes time and money and effort to you know,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: build these, you know, literally, you know, ten foot tall,
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  Speaker 1: ten foot wide walls of slash to keep deer out
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  Speaker 1: of zones like that. Yeah, that's that's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: I've seen so far. I know that it's a I
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  Speaker 1: guess you can shoot deer that that's a good way
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  Speaker 1: to do it is shoot a lot of dose to
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  Speaker 1: you know, limit your deer population a little bit. But
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  Speaker 1: I know that there's certain, definitely certain places in the
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  Speaker 1: United States where it's a big issue is to kind
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  Speaker 1: of keep the deer back from eating all the good trees.
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  Speaker 2: Cool.
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  Speaker 5: Let's see here, if Andrew is asking Spencer, how was
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: the trip to Isle Royale. I think you might have
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  Speaker 5: covered this a little on trivia possibly, I don't remember,
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  Speaker 5: But have you talked about this at all?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I have. I loved it, Andrew it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was super cool. It's a part of the world
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  Speaker 2: I'm very interested in, specifically because of the world's longest
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: predator prey study that's been taking place there for the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: last seventy five years. If you're not familiar, there are
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: wolves on the island and there are moose on the island,
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  Speaker 2: and it's one of the best ways that biologists can
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: study how those two animals interact. And so to get
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: to be in that place in the middle of Lake Superior,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. Got to spend four
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: hours out there, and it's referred to as an island,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: but it's so big that the island has enormous lakes
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: on them that have enormous islands that have lakes on them,
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  Speaker 2: so when you're there, it doesn't register that you're on
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  Speaker 2: an island. It's forty five miles long and I think
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  Speaker 2: like five miles wide. So it's a cool spot. If
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: you live in that part of the country, you should
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  Speaker 2: go check it out. And it's not necessarily easy to
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: get to. I booked my ferry tickets in January for
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: a trip in June, and I think come February they
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: were sold out. So start planning ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, if that's something that you sold out for
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  Speaker 1: the entire summer.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a short window. They only run those ferries
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  Speaker 2: for like three months or something, a couple times a day,
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  Speaker 2: So start planning that now if you ever want to
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  Speaker 2: go there.
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  Speaker 5: Cool, Johanni, I think we've gotten some spring hunting stories
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: from you. But Chili or Spencer Canadian hunter asks how
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  Speaker 5: was how were the guys spring bear and or turkey seasons?
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  Speaker 4: Mine was non existent, at least for back here in
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Montana because I took that New Zealand trip on a
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: tar down there, which would have been the beginning of
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: the spring season up here. So for the first two
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: and a half weeks I was out and then got
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: back into work and then took a trip to Alaska
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  Speaker 4: for a production shoot with Steve and the crew, so
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  Speaker 4: I didn't I got zero days for bear and I
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: had one day for turkey.
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  Speaker 2: I bear hunted four days, did not kill one. Turkey
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  Speaker 2: hunted zero days. My spring was really focused on planting
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: some stuff in my yard this year.
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  Speaker 6: You're not a big turkey guy, are you, Spencer?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. No. I travel enough hunting in the fall
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: that when spring comes around I'm interested in fish and rocks,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: so I looked for a lot of fish and rocks
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  Speaker 2: this spring instead.
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  Speaker 5: Cool last call for questions. We're gonna take a couple
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  Speaker 5: more if you get them in here. But Noah asks Spencer,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: will you ever take the opportunity to bowhunt whitetail instead
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: of using a rifle?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I used to bowhunt a lot. I bow hunted last season.
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  Speaker 2: I bow hunted the season before that. I didn't at
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: kill anything either time. I got away from bow hunting
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  Speaker 2: when I moved to Montana, and I didn't have like
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: a property that's set up really well to do that.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: To be successful bow hunting deer, you wouldither like need
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: a place that you're very familiar with, like Giannis has
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, or you're just like a really badass traveling
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  Speaker 2: bowhunter who is willing to commit ten days to going
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: somewhere and setting up stands or doing hanging hunts. Right now,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: I value just like traveling to different places in hunting,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: and so I could do two rifle deer hunts in
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: that ten days in the same amount of time I
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: could do one white tail bowhunt. You're also then doing
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: a lot more sk outing in the summer, the pendulum
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: will swing back the other way someday. I'm not there
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: right now. Right now, I just really love traveling to
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  Speaker 2: New States and rifle hunting white tails.
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  Speaker 1: He's also going to be so successful that he's going
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: to end up having his own white tail property that
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: he's going to manage turned into a big old oak savanna,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: and then he'll be bowhunt a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: I used to live, you know, ten miles from where
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: I would bowhunt a lot, and I would bowhunt thirty
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  Speaker 2: five days a year. My biggest dear ever killed us
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: with the bow. I think my third biggest dear ever
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  Speaker 2: killed us with the bow. It'll happen again someday.
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  Speaker 6: Cool.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, I think we're out of questions here. But let's see.
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  Speaker 5: Someone had a question for me that I was going
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: to make a joke about. But it's not worth it.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, hotlines Tribe ask Phil with editing software for video,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: do you recommend to get into making contact content? Please
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: and thank you. I am not the guy to ask
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: this question. I've been doing audio since right out of college,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: and so everything that I learned in college around video
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: editing and software, I mean, I'm completely out of touch
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: on everything's moved on, and I haven't really done any
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: video editing for twelve years, so honestly, you tell me, please,
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  Speaker 5: I'd love.
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  Speaker 2: To know chat, GPT chat exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Just generative AI.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a huge proponent of that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you all for tuning in and listening to
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  Speaker 1: USA Banter Along. Tune in again next week when there's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be Mark Kenyon, Ryan Callahan and Spencer Newhart in
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  Speaker 1: the host chair.
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  Speaker 3: Is that right?
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  Speaker 1: That's right, fourth of July everyone, that's right for Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I have a great time celebrating, and stay safe, be
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: smart out there this weekend, and we'll catch you next week.
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  Speaker 2: Bye now,