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Two Ts Presents: Two Jersey Js: Jackie’s Turn · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Jackie Goldschneider with two Jersey Jays,
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  Speaker 1: but today I am solo because I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you about something. So this week, Kelly Osborne gave
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  Speaker 1: an interview to E News where she basically said that
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  Speaker 1: people who are against die drugs like ozembic are either
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  Speaker 1: jealous or poor. So her exact words were, people hate
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  Speaker 1: on it because they want to do it, and the
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  Speaker 1: people who hate on it the most are the people
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  Speaker 1: who are secretly doing it or pissed off that they
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  Speaker 1: can't afford it. She then called the drugs amazing and
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  Speaker 1: a much more interesting way to lose weight than exercise.
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  Speaker 1: So let's bypass her as a public figure encouraging people
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  Speaker 1: to go on die drugs and discouraging exercise as a
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  Speaker 1: boring way to get in shape. Let's put that aside,
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  Speaker 1: because that in and of itself is so irresponsible. And
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  Speaker 1: let me also say that although I co host this
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  Speaker 1: podcast with the incredible Jennifer Esler, these opinions today are
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  Speaker 1: mine alone, not Gens, who, as you know, has been
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  Speaker 1: and is on semaglutides. And finally, my thoughts on Kelly's
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  Speaker 1: statements are not aimed at people who use these drugs
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  Speaker 1: for obesity, type two diabetes, or binge eating disorder. So
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  Speaker 1: here we go, Kelly Osborne. You are a grown woman,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously you can and have done whatever you want
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  Speaker 1: to your body, and you can rationalize your decisions however
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  Speaker 1: you'd like. But when you publicly declare that people with
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  Speaker 1: concerns and apprehensions about putting a mysterious drug into their
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  Speaker 1: body are either jealous or poor, you delegitimize some very
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  Speaker 1: serious and very real concerns that people like me are
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  Speaker 1: entitled to have and entitled two voice. I could be
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  Speaker 1: on this crap tomorrow if I want to, because every
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  Speaker 1: medspot in New Jersey that I pass is handing it
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  Speaker 1: out like candy. And I also have enough money to
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  Speaker 1: be on it for twenty lifetimes. So I am neither
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  Speaker 1: jealous of people using ozembic. So I'm neither jealous of
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  Speaker 1: people using ozembic. I'm not secretly using ozembic, and I
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  Speaker 1: am certainly not too poor to afford it. So I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to respond and reiterate why some of us might
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  Speaker 1: take real issue with drugs like ozembic. So first, I
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  Speaker 1: see the way that this is going, and every day
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  Speaker 1: it's becoming less and less acceptable to be overweight. And
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  Speaker 1: that's a very dangerous world to live in, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a world I don't want to live in. A few
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  Speaker 1: years ago, we were embracing curves and fuller bodies, and now,
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  Speaker 1: with so many people going on these drugs, especially public
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  Speaker 1: facing people who are people we watch and emulate, we
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  Speaker 1: are seeing rail thin bodies instead of healthy, normal bodies
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  Speaker 1: become the norm. We're seeing Heroine Sheep normalized again. We
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  Speaker 1: are seeing skinny as the new average woman's body. And
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  Speaker 1: many of us have daughters like me. I have a
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  Speaker 1: thirteen year old daughter, and sometimes she grabs her thighs
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  Speaker 1: and asks me why they're so big, even though they
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  Speaker 1: are not. And sometimes she hates her stomach, even though
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  Speaker 1: it's perfect. And some of that is my fault, because
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  Speaker 1: I very publicly recovered from an eating disorder, and I
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  Speaker 1: let my daughter watch me mistreat my body for most
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  Speaker 1: of her life. But all the things that I've tried
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  Speaker 1: to do to undo those lessons that I've taught her
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  Speaker 1: are being overshadowed by all the newly emaciated bodies that
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  Speaker 1: she sees everywhere. And now she's growing up in a
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  Speaker 1: world where It's almost unacceptable to not be thin because
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  Speaker 1: everybody can be thin now, everybody can get on diet
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  Speaker 1: drugs now, and not being thin means you must be poor,
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  Speaker 1: right Kelly? And no one wants to look like the
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  Speaker 1: poor fat girl, do they? I know so many women
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  Speaker 1: on these drugs. It is everywhere, and every every day
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  Speaker 1: there are more and more people taking it. And as
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  Speaker 1: everyone around me suddenly has their ribs and shoulder blades
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  Speaker 1: sticking out, I get scared for the world and the
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  Speaker 1: values that we are creating. So where are we going
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  Speaker 1: as a society? Where are we trending when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to women's bodies. That has nothing to do with being poor,
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  Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with being jealous. That is
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  Speaker 1: a very real concern. And by the way, what if,
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  Speaker 1: like Kelly said, you are too poor to afford it?
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  Speaker 1: Then what then? How do you get thin like everybody else?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe by starving yourself or throwing up or taking a
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  Speaker 1: different kind of dry drug. When skinny becomes the default
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  Speaker 1: and the new normal, that's the kind of standards we
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  Speaker 1: are imposing on the average woman now, and it is
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  Speaker 1: very dangerous. Maybe some of us are concerned because these
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  Speaker 1: drugs lack long term studies on people who are not
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  Speaker 1: suffering from type two diabetes, and we worry. We worry
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  Speaker 1: for our friends and our sisters, and our moms and
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  Speaker 1: our daughters who are injecting themselves with the drug that
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  Speaker 1: affects so many of their organs. Ozembic mimics the hormone
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  Speaker 1: called glp one, which helps the pancreas release insulin. I
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  Speaker 1: am not a doctor or a medical professional, but this
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  Speaker 1: is what I gather from research. So semaglutides stimulate your
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  Speaker 1: pancreas to release insulin. It also stops your liver from
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  Speaker 1: producing glucagon. Semaglutides sends signals to the appetite center in
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  Speaker 1: your brain to reduce hunger and increase fullness. It also
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  Speaker 1: slows down your digestion and your gastric emptying, helping you
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  Speaker 1: feel full longer. So basically, it affects your pancreas, your liver,
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  Speaker 1: your brain, your endocrinal system, your intestines, and your stomach.
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  Speaker 1: Common side effects of ozempic are nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea,
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  Speaker 1: which all lead to appetites of Russian and hence, with
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  Speaker 1: all of that, you lose weight. Other side effects can
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  Speaker 1: include inflammation of your pancreas, which is called pancreatitis, changes
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  Speaker 1: in your vision, hypoglycemia which is low blood sugar, kidney
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  Speaker 1: problems like kidney failure, serious allergic reactions, ballbladder problems, thyroid
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  Speaker 1: c cell tumors, and medullary thyroid carcinoma. So maybe some
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  Speaker 1: of us are worried about that that a largely unstudied drug.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to non diabetic bodies that people we
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  Speaker 1: love are taking, maybe we worried about their muscle. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we worry about their muscle loss that we've seen people
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  Speaker 1: we love experience, which is very dangerous, especially for an
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  Speaker 1: older woman's health. Maybe we worry about malnutrition and hair
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  Speaker 1: loss and all the other things that can happen to
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  Speaker 1: your body when you do not eat enough. Maybe we're
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  Speaker 1: worried about what they might find in a few years
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  Speaker 1: in people we love who are using these drugs, because
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people we love are using them, and
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  Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with being poor or being jealous.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we're worried about what happens when you have to
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  Speaker 1: come off of these drugs, because unless you plan on
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  Speaker 1: staying on them until the day you die, once you
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  Speaker 1: come off almost all the studies show that you gain
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  Speaker 1: back most, if not all, of the weight that you lost.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we're worried about all the people who will then
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  Speaker 1: be left spiraling because their skinny body is slowly disappearing
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  Speaker 1: and they're desperate to get it back. And here's where
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  Speaker 1: I have skin in the game. Maybe we're worried about
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  Speaker 1: all the new eating disorders in cases of anorexia, and
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  Speaker 1: all the anxiety and mental health issues that might cause.
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  Speaker 1: And trust me when I say that anorexia is a
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  Speaker 1: living hell. I know because I lived there for eighteen years.
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  Speaker 1: I starved myself for eighteen years, close to death because
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  Speaker 1: I was so desperate to be thin. I hated the
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  Speaker 1: body that I lived in. What if someone like me
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  Speaker 1: is legitimately worried that all people that never had eating
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  Speaker 1: disorders before yet so used to being thin that they
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  Speaker 1: don't want to go back ever, no matter what, even
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  Speaker 1: if they have a side effect that forces them to
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  Speaker 1: choose between their health and their diet drugs. Maybe we're
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  Speaker 1: worried because the drugs are close to being approved for
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  Speaker 1: use in children. When I was sixteen, I was so
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  Speaker 1: desperate to change my body. I would have been first
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  Speaker 1: in line for these drugs. I shudder when I think
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  Speaker 1: of my undeveloped adolescent body being injected with diet drugs
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  Speaker 1: so I could shut off my hunger. Instead of learning
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  Speaker 1: healthy ways to manage my weight, I would have given
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  Speaker 1: myself a life sentence. Gladly, I would have begged for
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  Speaker 1: it so that I could be thin. And we know
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  Speaker 1: how this goes. It gets approved for kids with certain BMIs,
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  Speaker 1: and then you have doctors and medspas that'll figure out
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  Speaker 1: ways to tweak that and get it into your child's
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  Speaker 1: hands with not quite the BMI you're supposed to have,
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  Speaker 1: just like they did for adults. And as kids start
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  Speaker 1: using ozembic, and add to all of the ozembic success
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  Speaker 1: stories that we see on TikTok, then you've got an
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  Speaker 1: adolescent trend like Stanley cups and sol Ly Janeiro products,
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  Speaker 1: except this one is potentially very dangerous. Maybe some of
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  Speaker 1: us are worried about all the teenage girls we know
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  Speaker 1: suddenly feeling like they have to be on ozembic, also
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  Speaker 1: including my little girl. Maybe we're worried about people like you, Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: who belittle people who aren't on diet drugs, who make
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  Speaker 1: it seem like there's something wrong with us for being wary,
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  Speaker 1: or for not wanting to be rale thin, or for
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  Speaker 1: people who want to feel okay about living in a
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  Speaker 1: larger body. Maybe it's people like you who make it
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  Speaker 1: so that when people see someone who's overweight, we assume
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  Speaker 1: that that person must be poor or have some medical
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  Speaker 1: condition that means they can't use osmpic. Maybe we worry
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  Speaker 1: that people like you will look at anyone who's not
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  Speaker 1: thin and say, what's wrong with them? Why are they
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  Speaker 1: still fat? Or maybe we just can't stand going to
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  Speaker 1: dinner and being the only one at the table with
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  Speaker 1: an appetite. Maybe selfishly, we hate the way that makes
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  Speaker 1: us feel when we watch our tablemates order an appetizer
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  Speaker 1: as their meal and pick at it. Maybe we hate
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  Speaker 1: the negative self talk we go through when we're the
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  Speaker 1: only ones at the table eating, when we ask ourselves
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  Speaker 1: should I keep eating even though we're hungry? But we
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  Speaker 1: feel bad about finishing our meals because no one around
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  Speaker 1: us is finishing their meal. Maybe some of us hate that,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe that's just me. And this is all not
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  Speaker 1: to mention the many diabetic piece people who cannot access
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  Speaker 1: their medication because of this. A zembic trend. And if
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  Speaker 1: that is not a legitimate concern, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what is, either way, be careful with your words, Kelly Osborne.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very happy for you. If you're happy, if you
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  Speaker 1: love being skin and bones, and you have no concerns
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  Speaker 1: over your health, and no concerns about your mom's health
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  Speaker 1: as she dips under one hundred pounds after losing forty
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  Speaker 1: two pounds in four months and saying that she can't
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  Speaker 1: gain anything back for some mysterious reason. If you have
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  Speaker 1: no concerns about that, then I'm happy for you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: happy that you're happy, and I hope you don't go
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  Speaker 1: on to suffer any of the potential side effects people
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  Speaker 1: are not talking about. I just asked that, as a
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  Speaker 1: public figure and an influencer, you be careful with your words,
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  Speaker 1: because there are women listening and teenagers and preteens listening
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  Speaker 1: and watching you. And shaming people who choose, for whatever
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  Speaker 1: reason not to use a drug that makes them thin
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  Speaker 1: is a very dangerous and irresponsible thing to do. And
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  Speaker 1: that's all I have to say. I gotta go now, guys,
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  Speaker 1: It's time for me to eat